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Log from 2006-12-18:
--- Day changed Mon Dec 18 2006
00:13 <spidey> damn it
00:13 <spidey> the ubuntu install keeps freezing
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00:20 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:20 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 39.2°F (4:54 PM CST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa. 
00:24 <DrJoeTron> ghableska did you get css?CS:S 
00:24 <DrJoeTron> shit
00:25 <ghableska> not yet :P
00:25 <DrJoeTron> camping for a wii sucked
00:25 <ghableska> :-/
00:25 <ghableska> how long were you out there?
00:26 <DrJoeTron> an embarrassing time
00:26 <ghableska> 2 days?
00:26 <DrJoeTron> and its a good thing I'm a loser
00:26 <DrJoeTron> nah 9:30 pm I went
00:26 <ghableska> did you finally get one?
00:26 <DrJoeTron> and the sad part was I wasnt first in line
00:26 <DrJoeTron> I was number 7
00:27 <DrJoeTron> you bet I did :)
00:27 <ghableska> :)
00:27 <ghableska> how is it?
00:27 <DrJoeTron> dont know yet
00:27 <ghableska> ?
00:29 <ghableska> oh btw, the concerned webcomic is hilarious
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01:49 <spidey> aaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh
01:51 <ghableska> hi spidey
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02:09 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: ping
02:14 <spidey> man
02:14 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr ping
02:14 <ghableska> ?
02:14 <spidey> fucking ubuntu
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02:15 <spidey> at first it froze on the base install at 6% on the initsomething package
02:15 <spidey> i changed the filesystem cause when i did it manually(the partitions) it said it maynot install correctly
02:15 <ghableska> hi Van-hayes
02:16 <spidey> so now it's hanging on the python2.4 minimal package :/
02:31 <Commn> yeesh
02:31 <Commn> too many noobs on the CTF servers
02:31 <ghableska> lol
02:31 <Commn> i think i had near 40 points 
02:32 <Commn> hold the flag is more fun
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02:39 <Arma56> hi
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02:40 <Arma72> hello
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03:39 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
03:56 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (7:54 PM CST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa. 
03:59 <ghableska> #insult AOL.
03:59 <armabot> AOL. - You are nothing but a surly petrification of churlish seagull. 
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04:55 <ghableska> #night
04:55 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:39 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to give crimson fields a run?
05:41 <Commn> crimson what?
05:41 <Commn> my cpu is not all that great for games
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> crimson fields, tactical wargame
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> http://crimson.seul.org/  <--- that game
05:42 <Commn> maybe later
05:42 <Commn> watching adultswim :)
05:52 <Vanhayes> #night
05:52 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:56 <GodTodd> how long a game is it?
05:59 <DrJoeTron> Commn what was with your guitar sounds tonights?
06:13 <Commn> guitar/
06:13 <Commn> what?
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06:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: it's not terribly long
06:17 <GodTodd> under an hour? :)
06:17 <GodTodd> heh
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> 1-2 hours maybe, depending on how quickly you move :)
06:17 <GodTodd> hmmm
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, we could play a shorter map
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> like, mmmm, mountain defense or something
06:18 <GodTodd> cuz i have class at 8 am tomorrow :/
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you were done with classes?  Oh yeah, wintermester
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> up to you.  You might prefer to play the tutorial campaign instead, if you're interested in the game, that is.
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> Then we can play a more competitive game later on.  :)
06:19 <GodTodd> that would probably be best :)
06:20 <GodTodd> otherwise, i fear, it would mostly be an hour or two of me floundering and not accomplishing too terribly much
06:24 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=122631#122631 what the christ man!
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06:29 <NoobNoobNoob> NOOBNOOBNOOB
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06:33 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: he should read some Honor Harrington so he knows the "Peeps" are the bad guys
06:42 <DrJoeTron> I shot who in the what now?
06:43 <DrJoeTron> So is it says in the new testament that you can be forgiven for anything with the exception of denying the holy spirit
06:43 <DrJoeTron> so if you deny it you go straight to hell.
06:45 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QVbJnSPQE
06:46 <DrJoeTron> http://www.blasphemychallenge.com/ better yet
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> so, you go to hell if you don't have an invisible friend, you go to a sanitarium if you do?
06:58 <DrJoeTron> yes
06:58 <DrJoeTron> now this is in anypoint in time you've denied 
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> can't get forgiveness for every accepting the holy spirit?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> wait, isn't that what the whole born-again thing is all about?
07:00 <DrJoeTron> don't forget last rights
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've only got one square left in the middle layer of this Rubik's Cube
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to play some crimson fields against a person
07:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
07:48 <spidey> i'll play
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I solved my rubik's cube
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> *my daughter's
07:49 <spidey> i always counted the amount of turns i did
07:49 <spidey> the first time i bought one
07:49 <spidey> then solved it :/
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, I didn't count the turns, but I did see my wife and mother-in-law both give it their best
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> so, you'll play crimson fields with me?
07:51 <spidey> lol
07:51 <spidey> yea
07:51 <spidey> for a bit
07:51 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v s u p e
07:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: S u p e r D u c k N a n o F o r t r e s s !!! ( running 0.3.0_alpha6514 unix dedicated, url: www.duck.com, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> did you manage to figure out how to play, or are you still basically where you were when we quit earlier?
07:51 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ty
07:52 <spidey> earlier
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok, conect whenever you're ready.  :)
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I started mountain defense, with me as FNA, which is an outnumbered position
07:52 <spidey> you gonna host a server?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> aha
07:53 <spidey> oh
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> er, uh huh :)
07:53 <spidey> gimme a sec
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> unless you really want to...
07:53 <spidey> not really
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I ran through the tutorial campaign earlier, and it was helpful.  I even learned something from it, so if you find you like this game, you might run through the tutorial campaign
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> (it didn't exist whenever I first played this game)
07:58 <spidey> heh
08:01 <DrJoeTron> think I can get a link to this game?
08:03 <spidey> no
08:03 <spidey> i just found my music folder
08:03 <spidey> lol
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> http://crimson.seul.org
08:09  * spidey just made another playlist
08:09 <spidey> ;x
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> man, that was a wussy barrage.  :/
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> I expected to take out both leading tanks, but only scratched them instead
08:21 <spidey> lol
08:23 <spidey> son of a bitch
08:23 <spidey> this ubuntu-server thing is really annoying me
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> oops
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> I think I just blew it
08:34 <spidey> wish i understood this game..
08:35 <spidey> am i doing good?
08:36 <spidey> wish this install just installed the kernal, ssh, apt, and apt-get
08:36 <spidey> i could do the rest >.>
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> I wish my artillery didn't suck so much
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, you're trying to get an infantry into my base, or destroy all my units
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> you did good that time, using the helicopters together like that
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> see, when you have units next to one that's attacking, they lend him some fire, giving him a bonus
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> they don't have to attack, they just have to be next to him
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, regular tactical stuff applies, like concentration of fire, terrain considerations, etc.
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> also, you have experience to deal with, but I forget exactly how that works
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> the tutorial goes into all that.  :)
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08:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think I blew it last turn because I spread out my fire too much and left too many units standing
08:39 <spidey> i doubt it
08:39 <spidey> i have like
08:39 <spidey> only a few units and they're all wounded
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've only got what you see
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> this scenario is designed for playing against the ai.  When two humans play, whoever side has blue should win every time, pretty much
08:42 <spidey> omg
08:42 <spidey> i can't believe i did that
08:42 <spidey> i forgot to fire off my other choppers
08:42 <spidey> damn it
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm only going to be able to knock one out this time
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> my aa guns are worthless
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> you killed the ones that had real experience :/
08:43 <spidey> heh
08:46 <spidey> i want a rematch
08:46 <spidey> after this
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> different map, then
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think you're getting the hang of it
08:51 <spidey> hm
08:51 <spidey> well
08:51 <spidey> that was gay
08:53 <spidey> wow
08:53 <spidey> $5 can of dip gone in 3 days >.>
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> that just about wraps it up
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> I think you blew it when you forgot to fire off those helicopters
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> did you get a dialog when it was over?
08:56 <spidey> yea
08:56 <spidey> rematch!
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, any scenario look interesting?  :)
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> the last one we played ws Tyarin Beach Raid
08:56 <spidey> don't know any...
08:57 <spidey> i don't want that beach one
08:57 <spidey> no no no!
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> arms race is fun
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> Heavy Metal is loooong
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> Island Hoppers is also fun.  It's a lot of navy
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> never really played Lost Factories
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> Operation: Foxhole is pretty long, too
08:58 <spidey> ok
08:58 <spidey> lets play it
08:59 <spidey> aslong as i get more units :D
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> how about Arms Race, then?  I don't want to be up all night playin this ;)
08:59 <spidey> k
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, connect :)
09:00 <spidey> only way i can see this working in more than 2 players is teams..
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, more than 2 players isn't planned, but I certainly wouldn't object if it were done as teams
09:02 <spidey> ....
09:02 <spidey> wtf's it doing
09:02 <spidey> it says "waiting for remote player"
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> ?
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh, it means you're waiting for me to take my turn
09:02 <spidey> o
09:14 <spidey> um
09:14 <spidey> how do i take my units out of the depot?
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, the grey depots you have to take with an infantry
09:15 <spidey> ???
09:15 <spidey> no
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> the blue one, which is yours, you just click the blue dot on the depot to open it, then double-click a unit
09:15 <spidey> how do i take the units i have inside out..
09:15 <spidey> the gray one
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> the grey ones are neutral, and those units aren't yours until you take them with an infantry :)
09:16 <spidey> ;/
09:17 <spidey> that's gay..
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09:24 <spidey> ok
09:24 <spidey> i give up
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> next time, read the mission briefing :)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> we're supposed to race to the depots, then slug it out and try to take each other's headquarters
09:30 <spidey> wrong x...
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, oh well
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> I guess we'll have to play again another day
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> next time, get your infantry going a lot faster :)
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> I *think* you can reach the bottom depot, but it's tight
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> the top depot you can take, but only if your units by it hold it.  Then it's a tough fight there
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> I usually manage to take the bottom one, and then it's a hard fight in the middle
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> to make matters worse, I think Kand gets a set of reinforcements
09:48 <spidey> heh
09:48 <spidey> well
09:48 <spidey> i'ma go sleep
09:48 <spidey> i think i have a dentist app. tomorrow
09:49 <spidey> btw
09:49 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
09:51 <spidey> #night
09:51 <armabot> Good night spidey!
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09:57 <guru3> DrJoeTron: what did you mean about the forums before?
09:57 <DrJoeTron> going down the toilet?
09:57 <guru3> yeah
09:58 <DrJoeTron> the content of threads are turning into clan fights and beggars
09:59 <DrJoeTron> I mean come on that thread abou DOOD LETS BAN LEGIT FROM TRON
09:59 <guru3> ive banned someone from most of tron
09:59 <guru3> well
09:59 <guru3> everything i could
09:59 <DrJoeTron> yeah exactly
09:59 <guru3> it's not impossible
10:01 <DrJoeTron> I dont know
10:01 <DrJoeTron> but thats a topic for a later date
10:02 <guru3> so because of 3 recent threads
10:02 <guru3> the forums are sucking?
10:03 <DrJoeTron> There has been more, I don't really remember what else, seeing as this was a while ago
10:05 <DrJoeTron> actually now I'm curious
10:05 <DrJoeTron> how do you ban someone from armagetron?
10:05 <guru3> WELL
10:05 <guru3> *well
10:05 <guru3> by ban from armagetron
10:05 <guru3> i mean
10:06 <DrJoeTron> besides banning them from the master servers
10:06 <guru3> stop them from talking to me in pretty much anyway shape or form
10:06 <DrJoeTron> I mean I can see a massive shunning of people
10:06 <DrJoeTron> by*
10:07 <DrJoeTron> I think the community is still small enough to do that in.
10:07 <DrJoeTron> which is kind of awesome and cute :)
10:07 <guru3> so don't complain about the forums then
10:08 <DrJoeTron> this was like a week ago and it's been taken care of
10:08 <guru3> mmk
10:09 <DrJoeTron> although I do have a question for you
10:09 <DrJoeTron> how come you didnt draw a picture of you being cool :(
10:09 <guru3> because how the thread was stupid to you was how having pictures there was to me
10:10 <DrJoeTron> :( aww
10:16 <DrJoeTron> I'm starting to miss iceman
10:16 <DrJoeTron> guru3 have you heard from him at all?
10:16 <guru3> nope
10:16 <DrJoeTron> bah!
10:16 <guru3> could probably try getting in touch with his father
10:17 <DrJoeTron> wait what?
10:17 <DrJoeTron> how do you know his father?
10:17 <guru3> i don't
10:17 <guru3> but i think it could be possible to track him down
10:18 <DrJoeTron> the only easy way is through whois.sc
10:18 <DrJoeTron> that I kow of
10:18 <DrJoeTron> know*
10:18 <guru3> i didn't even th9ink of that
10:19 <DrJoeTron> http://whois.domaintools.com/icemans.net
10:19 <DrJoeTron> I got a tad worried after his domain was set to park
10:20 <guru3> yeah but i'm betting that's not his real info
10:20 <DrJoeTron> and Go Daddy only does that if you set it to it or if you miss your bill, they set it to park for 30 days
10:20 <DrJoeTron> the name I doubt
10:21 <guru3> im betting the address is fake too
10:22 <DrJoeTron> what was your method?
10:22 <guru3> his dad was going to open an online store
10:22 <guru3> find the store
10:23 <DrJoeTron> ah
10:23 <DrJoeTron> any idea on what the domain would be?
10:23 <guru3> not atm
10:23 <DrJoeTron> hah ok
10:23 <guru3> im in the middle of playing tron atm
10:24 <DrJoeTron> icemansdads-store.biz :p
10:24 <guru3> no one that actually wants buisness will use a .biz domain
10:25 <DrJoeTron> it was a joke...
10:26 <guru3> indeed
10:26 <DrJoeTron> :/
10:28 <DrJoeTron> bbl
10:28 <DrJoeTron> stupid wii campout has destroyed my sleep cycle
10:29 <guru3> cu
10:29 <DrJoeTron> ta :)
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11:15 <DrJoeTron> http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24525221 some of you might appreciate this
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13:01 <guru3> anyone one that can do me a favor?
13:02 <guru3> try connecting to electricpotential.net:4538
13:20 <pavelo> guru3: you mean like, with arma ? doesnt seem to work
13:21 <guru3> yeah it's off
13:21 <guru3> back on in a min tho
13:21 <guru3> try now
13:22 <pavelo> there
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15:45 <HIM> hi
15:45 <HIM> ×Ð
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16:10 <luke-jr> guru3: cuz .biz is lame, and has the same purpose as .com
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16:13 <guru3> we get more spam from .biz than .com
16:37 <wrtlprnft> that's because the spammy .biz domains are still free ;)
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16:50 <Fonkay> 'ello
16:59 <wrtlprnft> hi
17:04 <madmax|pt> hi
17:07 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 - (1-1/16)^2
17:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 - ((1 - (1 / 16))^2) = 0.12109375
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17:22 <Fonkay> ack
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20:13 <guru3> luke-jr: any anime to recommend while i'm home?
20:13 <luke-jr_work> Serial Experiments Lain?
20:13 <luke-jr_work> plot is too complex for most ppl tho'
20:14 <guru3> seen it
20:14 <luke-jr_work> Tsubasa Chronicles?
20:15 <guru3> also seen it
20:15 <wrtlprnft> guru3: so you'Re planning on making a subforum just for spam? jk
20:15 <guru3> haha x)
20:15 <guru3> not a bad idea
20:15 <luke-jr_work> guru3: Card Captor Sakura
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Bishoujosenshi Sailormoon
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Kaitou Saint Tail
20:16 <guru3> seen ccs
20:16 <luke-jr_work> InuYasha
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Aa! Megami-sama
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Groove Adventure Rave
20:16 <guru3> ahmg was good
20:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:16 <luke-jr_work> you've seen A!MS OVA, movie, and TV?
20:17 <guru3> no
20:17 <luke-jr_work> :p
20:17 <guru3> only the most recent tv & its 2nd season
20:17 <luke-jr_work> Pretty Guardian Sailormoon, tho that's live action
20:17 <luke-jr_work> :p
20:17 <guru3> ><
20:17 <luke-jr_work> haha
20:18  * luke-jr_work bbiab
20:18 <guru3> anywho thnx
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21:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 40 chf in euro
21:11 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 40 Swiss francs = 25.0237579 Euro
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22:43 <wrtlprnft> 40 chf = about one glass of water in swizerland
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> #g one glass of water in switzerland in USD
22:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:45 <Seyahnav> #g 1 litre in chf
22:45 <armabot> Seyahnav: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:45 <Seyahnav> what is a chf?
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22:46 <GodTodd> #g 1 chf in usd
22:46 <armabot> GodTodd: 1 Swiss franc = 0.81846456 U.S. dollars
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22:48 <Lucifer_arma> as spidey would say, chf is swiss gay dollars
22:48 <wrtlprnft> well, stuff IS expensive in ch
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22:49 <GodTodd> that would be "swis gey dallors"
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22:56 <Super_Duck> luke?
23:01 <spidey> who's that?
23:02  * luke-jr_work stabs spidey 
23:02  * spidey drop kicks luke-jr_work 
23:02  * luke-jr_work melts spidey 
23:02  * spidey steals luke's wife
23:02 <spidey> pwn
23:03  * luke-jr_work reports spidey to the cops
23:03 <guru3> haha
23:03  * spidey knows luke won't because he doesn't want to be in the "system"
23:03 <spidey> hey guru3 xD
23:03 <guru3> hey spidey
23:04 <luke-jr_work> spidey: I don't need to be in the system to report you
23:04 <spidey> you have to fill out a report :p
23:04 <luke-jr_work> not under my name :p
23:04 <guru3> lol
23:04 <spidey> anyways, i just woke up and i'm hungry
23:05 <spidey> so i'ma go make breakfast
23:05 <spidey> cause luke's a nub ;x
23:05 <guru3> im so glad i sleep when you're awake most of the time :D
23:05 <luke-jr_work> you think
23:11  * GodTodd wonders why the cops would care if anyone stole luke's wife.
23:11 <spidey> haha
23:11 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: kidnapping is illegal
23:11 <GodTodd> not if she went willingly
23:11 <spidey> luke-jr_work, well, you had to kidnap her, to get her
23:12 <spidey> it's the only way ;x
23:12 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: wouldn't happen
23:12 <luke-jr_work> spidey: nah
23:12 <spidey> man
23:12 <spidey> my popcicle :<
23:12  * GodTodd wonders how she would even be found if none of you are in "the system"
23:12 <spidey> yea
23:13 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: just need to use her documented "name"
23:13 <spidey> nub
23:13 <GodTodd> so...you two aren't married under your real names?
23:13 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: sure we are
23:13 <spidey> lol
23:13 <GodTodd> then you're in the system
23:14 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:14 <luke-jr_work> marriage isn't in the system
23:14 <GodTodd> ummm
23:14 <luke-jr_work> marriage is sacramental
23:14 <luke-jr_work> n00b
23:14 <GodTodd> so, you weren't legally married?
23:14 <luke-jr_work> legal "marriage" is by definition not marriage
23:14 <luke-jr_work> marriage cannot be dissolved
23:14 <spidey> luke-jr_work, you have a kid right?
23:14 <luke-jr_work> legal "marriage" can
23:15 <luke-jr_work> spidey: yep
23:15 <GodTodd> did you file a marriage license under your real names?
23:15 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:15 <luke-jr_work> under our documented "names"
23:15 <GodTodd> so, false information?
23:15 <spidey> so your fake name is your daughters father?
23:15 <luke-jr_work> spidey: nope
23:15 <spidey> then you're in the system
23:15 <luke-jr_work> oh well :p
23:16 <luke-jr_work> you're assuming she has a birth cert
23:16 <spidey> ...
23:16 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: isnt using fake names immoral?
23:16 <luke-jr_work> ROFL
23:16 <spidey> you're wrong
23:16 <spidey> veryy wrong
23:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:16  * GodTodd notes that luke's daughter is going to have a very messed up life.
23:16 <spidey> me too
23:17  * luke-jr_work notes at least she has a better chance of salvation than GodTodd's kids
23:17  * GodTodd also notes that the only people that hide from "the system" are people that have stuff to hide.
23:17 <spidey> heh
23:17 <spidey> he's a pussy
23:17  * GodTodd notes that I would prefer they don't have luke's brand of "salvation".
23:17 <spidey> and is hiding from the draft
23:18 <GodTodd> even though we haven't had one in his lifetime
23:18 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: that's pretty mean
23:18 <spidey> yup
23:18 <luke-jr_work> poor kids
23:18 <GodTodd> nah...at least my kids will be taught to think for themselves
23:18 <GodTodd> that's invaluable
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> no, she's fucked
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> there's numerous scientific information that shows that extreme religion in any house is bad for kids
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> just ask Manta sometime what it's like
23:19 <GodTodd> that and hiding her from "the system"
23:20  * GodTodd notes that luke is a hop, skip and a jump away from being the next david koresh
23:20 <spidey> who?
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> she's gonna have issues for the rest of her life, whether or not she seeks salvation
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> luke's daughter
23:20 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: perhaps extreme false religion
23:20 <GodTodd> oh, right...you guy's are young
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, even extreme true religion
23:21 <GodTodd> spidey: the guy in waco in 93 or so
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> she's got a dad who's so full of self-righteousness, even in his anger there will be no mercy, no forgiveness, nothing
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> so what will you do?  beat the devil out of her?
23:21 <spidey> lool
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> physical and emotional abuse are what happens in these houses
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> and whether the religion is true or not is irrelevant, the fact that you're a fanatic is the reason
23:22 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: shows what you know
23:22 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: weren't those the chicks in high school that were most likely to get pregnant early?
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yep
23:22  * luke-jr_work notes he's not a fanatic :p
23:22 <GodTodd> bull
23:22 <spidey> are so
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> you are the definition of a fanatic
23:23 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:23 <luke-jr_work> #dict fanatic
23:23 <armabot> luke-jr_work: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: fanatic adj : marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea; "rabid isolationist" [syn: {fanatical}, {overzealous}, {rabid}] n : a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm (as for a cause); "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"--Winston Churchill [syn: {fiend}]; gcide: Fanatic \Fa*nat"ic\, (6 more messages)
23:23 <GodTodd> yep...might as well be #dict luke
23:23 <luke-jr_work> note *excessive* enthusiasm
23:23 <GodTodd> yep
23:23 <GodTodd> i did
23:23 <luke-jr_work> and *can't* change his mind
23:23 <GodTodd> :)\
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"--Winston Churchill  <--- that *is* luke
23:24 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:24 <GodTodd> yep
23:24 <luke-jr_work> I change the subject all the time
23:24 <luke-jr_work> :p
23:24 <GodTodd> no
23:24 <GodTodd> you stop talking when you're proven wrong
23:24 <luke-jr_work> and I changed my mind when I converted
23:24 <GodTodd> there's a difference
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> you're how old?  how much of the world have yous een?
23:25 <luke-jr_work> I can't recall being proven wrong in #armagetron, at least not on that topic
23:25 <GodTodd> heh then you have a bad memory
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> the very fact that you require being "proven wrong" is the proof you need
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> you're a true-believer who wants to commit genocide against an entire group of people
23:26 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: nope
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> who the fuck is your daughter in the face of such belief?
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> she's nobody, you *will* abuse her.  She's too small right now, you'd have to be inarguably sick to have done anything yet, but you watch
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> when you see bruises on her that you put there, maybe then you'll think about it
23:26 <spidey> i'ma go play halo
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> but the emotional abuse you will inflict is far far worse than any physical abuse you may or may not inflict
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> and taht's a given
23:27 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: bs
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen it probably hundreds of times
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> there are *no* exceptions, and you do *not* know what you're tlaking about
23:27 <luke-jr_work> I doubt you've even seen a Catholic
23:27 <GodTodd> haha
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> you're too caught up i your idiot fanaticism to even think about what you'll do
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> my mother-in-law is also a true believer
23:27 <GodTodd> we grew up in a catholic town
23:27 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: shows what you know :)
23:27 <luke-jr_work> I doubt a Catholic town exists
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> I doubt your labels matter in this case
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> what matters is your attitude, and whether your a "Catholic", LDS, or fucking devil-worshipper makes no difference
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's your *attitude* that's going to fuck her over
23:28 <GodTodd> that's right...they were all like you, luke...so they must not have been catholic
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> and you won't look at it, or even admit there might be a problem with it
23:28 <luke-jr_work> out of the two of us, you have the worse attitude right now
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> whatever
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> problem solved, I've no reason to talk to that idiot anymore
23:29  * GodTodd notes that any "true" believer of anything will not be offended by others questioning said belief.
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> he won't even try to look at himself objectively
23:30 <luke-jr_work> Questioning is not the same as attacking
23:30 <GodTodd> no, luke...whenever someone questions you, you turn it into an attack
23:30 <luke-jr_work> no
23:30 <GodTodd> "oh look at the meanies persecuting the poor christian"
23:30 <GodTodd> yes
23:30 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i agree
23:30 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom has asked questions, you have attacked
23:31 <GodTodd> how have i attacked?
23:31 <GodTodd> i've asked you questions you won't answer
23:31 <GodTodd> won't or can't
23:31 <GodTodd> for all you know, i want to convert and you are preventing me by not satisfying my curiosity
23:33 <GodTodd> oh, well, jesus will know that you didn't help a wayward soul
23:34 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom has asked questions, you have attacked and/or mocked
23:34 <GodTodd> oh, well, jesus will know that you didn't help a wayward soul
23:35 <luke-jr_work> there's only so much I can do
23:35 <GodTodd> i've asked you how evolution has been disproven...how is that attacking?
23:35 <GodTodd> unless the info doesn't exist?
23:35 <luke-jr_work> #last --from GodTodd --with evolution
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr_work: [23:37:32] <GodTodd> i've asked you how evolution has been disproven...how is that attacking?
23:35 <luke-jr_work> #last --from GodTodd --with evolution --nolimit
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr_work: [23:37:32] <GodTodd> i've asked you how evolution has been disproven...how is that attacking?
23:36 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:36 <luke-jr_work> stupid bot
23:37 <GodTodd> i've only attacked your stance after you've refused to prove your assertions
23:39  * GodTodd watches luke search for his "attack on luke" about evolution.
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23:40 <DrJoeTron> herp derp
23:40 <GodTodd> yo joe
23:40 <DrJoeTron> how goes it.
23:40  * GodTodd can rhyme too ;)
23:40 <DrJoeTron> haha
23:40 <GodTodd> luke is verbally abusing me :(
23:40 <GodTodd> beat him up
23:40 <GodTodd> heh
23:41 <DrJoeTron> I was reading
23:41 <DrJoeTron> the whole not legally married part
23:41 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: http://www.arn.org/blogs/index.php/3/2006/10/16/press_release_evolution_dismissed_at_eur
23:41 <GodTodd> heh
23:41 <DrJoeTron> do you not want tax right offs luke-jr_work ?
23:41 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: you assume I pay taxes
23:42 <DrJoeTron> oh do I need to report you for tax evasion?
23:42 <luke-jr_work> you assume I don't pay taxes now :)
23:42 <luke-jr_work> you also assume taxes are legally required
23:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah, taxes are just things you have the option of paying
23:43 <GodTodd> that only shows evolution hasn't been empirically proven...now show that evolution is impossible
23:43 <luke-jr_work> legally
23:43 <GodTodd> which is what you assert
23:44 <DrJoeTron> Everytime I watch Moral Orel, I can't help but think of all of these conversations
23:44 <GodTodd> haha
23:44 <GodTodd> moral orel rocks
23:44 <DrJoeTron> did you see the one last night?
23:44 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: I'm looking for one that doesn't talk about the Bible
23:44 <GodTodd> nah...had to go to bed early :/
23:44 <DrJoeTron> This was one of the funniest
23:44 <luke-jr_work> there's a lot to sift through
23:45 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: that would be preferable, yess
23:45 <GodTodd> yes*
23:45 <GodTodd> then we'll talk about dinosaur theories ;)
23:45 <luke-jr_work> dinosaurs are in the Bible :p
23:46 <GodTodd> where?
23:46 <DrJoeTron> He speaks of Anubis! God of the dead!
23:46 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: IIRC, in one the gospels
23:47 <luke-jr_work> could be wrong on that part
23:47 <GodTodd> you can't tell me which one?
23:47 <luke-jr_work> OT as well
23:47 <GodTodd> haven't you read it?
23:47 <DrJoeTron> OT was just retarded
23:47 <GodTodd> OT had incest and everything
23:47 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: right, and you memorize every page of books you read?
23:47 <GodTodd> if it's the source of my beliefs, you bet i would
23:48 <luke-jr_work> Job 40
23:48 <luke-jr_work> The Bible isn't the source
23:48 <luke-jr_work> it's just a written record
23:48 <GodTodd> of?
23:48 <luke-jr_work> history
23:49 <luke-jr_work> more or less anyway
23:49 <GodTodd> heh
23:49 <GodTodd> right
23:49 <GodTodd> this passage:  15 "Look at the behemoth, [a]
23:49 <GodTodd>        which I made along with you
23:49 <GodTodd>        and which feeds on grass like an ox.?
23:49 <GodTodd> that says nothing of T Rex
23:50 <DrJoeTron> thats not a dinosaur
23:50 <luke-jr_work> the description foo
23:50 <DrJoeTron> something thats big and eats grass like an ox
23:50 <GodTodd> besides...this is a footnote: Job 40:15 Possibly the hippopotamus or the elephant
23:50 <DrJoeTron> I can think of a bunch of stuff
23:51 <luke-jr_work> either of those have tails like a cedar?
23:51 <luke-jr_work> IIRC, elephants at least have tiny tails
23:51 <GodTodd> did the trex eat grass?
23:51 <GodTodd> foo
23:51 <luke-jr_work> shrug
23:51 <DrJoeTron> they ate Job
23:51 <luke-jr_work> who said it was a trex
23:51 <GodTodd> then explain t rex
23:51 <GodTodd> that's my point
23:52 <GodTodd> it was a meat eater
23:52 <DrJoeTron> a scavanger
23:52 <luke-jr_work> so are lions
23:52 <luke-jr_work> what's your point?
23:52 <GodTodd> so, where's the description of the biggest meat eater in history?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> the Bible isn't an animal encyclopedia
23:53 <DrJoeTron> well it aught to be
23:53 <GodTodd> so, it's not all inclusive?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> ?
23:53 <GodTodd> ??
23:53 <luke-jr_work> =!
23:53 <GodTodd> so, it's not all inclusive?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> obviously, the Bible doesn't include everything
23:54 <luke-jr_work> I'm not specifically mentioned in the Bible
23:54 <luke-jr_work> neither are you
23:54 <luke-jr_work> we clearly exist
23:54 <GodTodd> then how do you know you are following all of god's rules?
23:54 <GodTodd> how do you know they're all in there?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> I didn't say they all are in the Bible
23:54 <luke-jr_work> Like I said, it's just one source of infallible truth
23:54 <GodTodd> so, it's a guessing game, or what?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> the primary source is the Deposit of Faith
23:55 <luke-jr_work> given by Christ to the apostles
23:55 <luke-jr_work> taught by Christ's Church since its beginning
23:59 <GodTodd> so, where is this deposit of faith kept?

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