IRCLogs for #armagetron in 2006-11-23 • ArmaNelgTron.tk

Log from 2006-11-23:
--- Day changed Thu Nov 23 2006
00:16 <Vanhayes> #dict confibibled
00:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "confibibled" could be found.
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00:22 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen hama
00:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: AlphaMail has last been seen on Palatinum's Place 1 minutes ago.
00:22 <ghableska> o.0
00:22 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails plat
00:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “plat” at the moment, sorry.
00:22 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v pal
00:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Palatinum's Place (89.106.67.35:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, Description: “kind of classic play“, Players (1/16): AlphaMail
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00:44 -!- Arma42 is now known as Van
00:44 <Van> HAY
00:44 -!- Van is now known as VanGayNus
00:44 <VanGayNus> woot
00:45 <VanGayNus> yay
00:45 <VanGayNus> for
00:45 <VanGayNus> me
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00:46 <ghableska> O_o
00:48 <luke-jr_> fun
00:49 <luke-jr_> I wrote a Gentoo initscript to forward port 22 from a UPnP router at boot :p
00:49 <luke-jr_> cuz Revan/Orb dunno his router's pw
00:49 <luke-jr_> lol
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> that wasn't me!
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00:51 <luke-jr_> what?
01:11 <Vanhayes> plz tell me that was someone in this channel and not some random person
01:11 <ghableska> haha
01:11 <luke-jr_> lol
01:11 <luke-jr_> IP match anyone?
01:11 <luke-jr_> who's in California?
01:14 <Vanhayes> hmm
01:14 <Vanhayes> #seen titsnass
01:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: titsnass was last seen in #armagetron 16 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <TitsnAss> i hate you guys *wimpers*
01:15 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
01:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
01:15 <Vanhayes> #time
01:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: 01:18 AM, November 23, 2006
01:15 <Vanhayes> hmm
01:16 <Vanhayes> #g november 23 - 16 weeks
01:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:16 <Vanhayes> meh
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01:17 <Vanhayes> 14:35 <TitsnAss> yo
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01:17 <Vanhayes> Ill take a guess it was him
01:26 <luke-jr_> heh
01:35 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 50.0°F (5:54 PM CST on November 22, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa. 
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> what the fuck is an 800 lb gorilla, anyway?
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> that's not the same TnA from way back when, that's his poser buddy, hypppppppphy leapppppppppord
02:38 <Vanhayes> I think hyphy might have taken the spot of pimp for the most obnoxious player in tron, for me anyways
02:40 <ghableska> heh
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02:41 <ghableska> hi
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02:46 <Lucifer_arma> I think hyphy and pimp are the same person
02:46 <ghableska> hmm
02:46 <ghableska> when was the last time pimp was around, anyway?
02:47 <Durka> they are
02:47 <Durka> he renamed to that yesterday
02:48 <Durka> #lastseen pimp
02:48 <armabot> Durka: BluePimp seems to be on Shrunkland in 2.8.2 right now.
02:48 <DrJoeTron> they are
02:48 <DrJoeTron> bluepimp is someone different
02:49 <Durka> not him
02:49 <Durka> i mean Hyphy Leopard and just pimp
02:49 <Vanhayes> well I saw him when he was named pimp, but if they are the same person that would explain alot
02:49 <Durka> or [Pimp]
02:49 <Durka> they are
02:49 <Durka> what happened and when i can tell cuz of the behavior
02:49 <Durka> #lastseen [pimp]
02:50 <armabot> Durka: [Pimp] has last been seen on  Wild West - Fortress 1 days 18 hours 17 minutes ago.
02:50 <Vanhayes> time out
02:50 <Vanhayes> hmm
02:50 <Vanhayes> #lastseen vanhayes
02:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 1 days 3 hours 51 minutes ago.
02:50 <Durka> thats him
02:50 <Durka> on wild west fort
02:50 <Durka> yesterday
02:50 <Durka> #lastseen slowcoaster
02:50 <armabot> Durka: Slowcoaster has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 2 minutes ago.
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, now I remember why I quit working on mathguy
02:51 <Vanhayes> he showed you up with his amazing math skills?
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> core game library disappeared
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> all I have is byte-compiled files, so I can't change anything
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> widget set is there, complete and everything
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> it disappeared before I had regular backups of anything :(
02:53 <luke-jr_> Durka: ...
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> soooo, I can rewrite the whole thing, copying and pasting code that's already written to fill in the gaps, or I can try to rewrite just the core game library
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> or I can start from scratch and throw away this code
02:54 <luke-jr_> or decompile
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> decompile?  a python file?
02:54 <luke-jr_> sure
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> how?
02:54 <luke-jr_> it's not like it's x86 bytecode
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/5375
02:55 <luke-jr_> #google pyc python decmpiler
02:55 <luke-jr_> #google pyc python decompiler
02:55 <Durka> Luke...
02:55 <armabot> luke-jr_: No matches found. (Search took 0.16 seconds)
02:55 <armabot> luke-jr_: Search took 0.09 seconds: [Tutor] " Decompile " pyc file: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2005-October/042403.html>; FAQTs - Knowledge Base - View Entry - How can I decompile a python ...: <http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/5375>; Re: How to decompile an exe file compiled by py2exe?: <http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t349551-re-how-to-decompile-an-exe-file-compiled-by- (3 more messages)
02:57 <Durka> luke i fixed the problem with the server
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freshports.org/devel/decompyle/
02:57 <Durka> legit said he wants you to keep running the server
02:57 <Durka> he'll pay you when he gets back
02:57 <Durka> hes taking a little break
02:58 <luke-jr_> Durka: fixed it how?
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> he rooted your box and installed a newer version?
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, for 10 EUR/5KB, I can have a commercial service decompile for me
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> that's like $50/KB!
02:59 <luke-jr_> or find the download version
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> found it, linked it, main website's down
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the commercial service is only up to python 2.3, and the last archive of the free version is only good up to 2.2
03:00 <luke-jr_> #g (10 eur/5 kb) to usd/kb
03:00 <armabot> luke-jr_: (10 Euros) / (5 kb) = 2.5646 U.S. dollars / kb
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> I've got 2.4.3
03:00 <luke-jr_> how do you get $50/KB?
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> er, what's the command to size a directory?
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> (I got $50/KB by making my generic joke about exchange rates)
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> 22K
03:03 <Durka> it took me forever to find where the error was
03:03 <Durka> it was:
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> $10?  something's a little screwy
03:03 <Durka> resource_repository_servre
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> #g 10 euro in USD
03:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 10 Euro = 12.82300 U.S. dollars
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> #g 12.82300 * 5
03:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.82300 * 5 = 64.11500
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> I wasn't too far off, heh
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> #g 64/45
03:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 64 / 45 = 1.42222222
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> so, I break even if I spend 1.42 hours recoding it
03:05 <Vanhayes> #g 10 euro in CAD
03:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: 10 Euro = 14.6990049 Canadian dollars
03:06 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 CAD in Paeso
03:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:06 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 CAD in Paesos
03:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:06 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 CAD in paseo
03:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:06 <ghableska> #g 1300 CAD in pesos
03:06 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 CAD in paseos
03:06 <armabot> ghableska: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 12,446.3404 Mexican pesos
03:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:06 <Vanhayes> heh
03:06 <ghableska> :P
03:06 <Durka> lol
03:07 <Vanhayes> hmm what do things cost like in mexico?
03:07 <Durka> ghab wins
03:07 <Durka> #g 1300 CAD in yen
03:07 <armabot> Durka: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 133,844.543 Japanese yen
03:07 <Durka> o snap!
03:07 <Durka> 133,844.543!
03:07 <Durka> thats a lot of yen
03:07 <Vanhayes> maybe
03:08 <Durka> 1300 CAD in USD
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03:08 <Durka> oops
03:08 <Durka> hi 2nd zman
03:08 <Vanhayes> comes out to be like 1000
03:08 <ghableska> #g 1300 CAD in rupees
03:08 <armabot> ghableska: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:08 <Durka> #g 1300 CAD in USD
03:08 <Vanhayes> #1300 CAD in USD
03:08 <armabot> Durka: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 1,134.08357 U.S. dollars
03:08 <Vanhayes> not bad
03:08 <Durka> #g 1 USD in yen
03:08 <armabot> Durka: 1 U.S. dollar = 118.02 Japanese yen
03:08 <Durka> wow
03:08 <Durka> lol watch this
03:09 <Durka> #g 1 yen in USD
03:09 <armabot> Durka: 1 Japanese yen = 0.00847314015 U.S. dollars
03:09 <Durka> lol
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> except a peso is a penny
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> #google peso
03:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.11 seconds: Peso - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peso>; Mexican peso - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_peso>; Yahoo! Finance - Currency Conversion: <http://quote.yahoo.com/m5?a=1&s=USD&t=PHP>; Exchange Rates Table for Mexican Peso , Mexico: <http://www.x-rates.com/d/MXN/table.html>; Exchange Rates Graph (2 more messages)
03:10 <ghableska> heh
03:11 <ghableska> #g 1300 CAD in centavos
03:11 <armabot> ghableska: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah, nvm
03:11 <Durka> lol
03:11 <Durka> #g 1 Durka in Lucis
03:11 <armabot> Durka: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:11 <Durka> awww
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's a simple order of magnitude computation
03:11 <ghableska> haha
03:12 <Vanhayes> hmm what currency do they use in china?
03:12 <Durka> apsodfijasd
03:12 <Durka> i think...
03:13 <Vanhayes> #g 1 cad in Yuan
03:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1 Canadian dollar = 6.86626538 Chinese yuan
03:13 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renminbi
03:13 <Durka> nice van
03:14 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in Yuan
03:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 8,926.14499 Chinese yuan
03:14 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in won
03:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 1.06086714 million South Korean won
03:14 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in north korean won
03:14 <ghableska> wow
03:14 <Lucifer_arma> human lives?
03:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:14 <Vanhayes> hmm
03:14 <ghableska> heh
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 in rubles
03:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 in RFD
03:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> #dict ruble
03:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Ruble \Ru"ble\, n. [Russ. ruble.] The unit of monetary value in Russia. [1913 Webster]; wn: ruble n 1: the basic unit of money in Tajikistan 2: the basic unit of money in Russia [syn: {rouble}]; moby-thes: 37 Moby Thesaurus words for "ruble": Deutschmark, Mark, Reichsmark, afghani, anna, baht, cent, centavo, centime, conto, dollar, dong, florin, (1 more message)
03:15 <Durka> #g 1 ghab in leska
03:15 <armabot> Durka: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:15 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in afghani
03:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in american lvies
03:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:15 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in tenge
03:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:16 <Vanhayes> argh
03:16 <ghableska> Durka: har har har
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in metacais
03:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:16 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in tAustralian dollar
03:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:16 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in Australian dollar
03:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 1,473.60132 Australian dollar
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in mozambique dollars
03:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in russian dollars
03:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in russian rubles
03:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 30,228.4306 Russian rubles
03:17 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad Indian rupee
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> ah, there we go
03:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in mozambique metacais
03:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:17 <Durka> lol
03:17 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in Indian rupee
03:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 50,918.5379 Indian rupee
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in barrels of oil
03:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in SAR
03:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 4,253.26703 Saudi riyals
03:18 <Vanhayes> #g $.8809 per litre in gallons
03:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:19 <Vanhayes> ya, i didnt think that one would work
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in dinars
03:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in libyan dinars
03:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in LYD
03:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> WORTHLESS FUCK!
03:21 <ghableska> hahaha
03:21 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in Dirham
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 9,810.38995 Moroccan dirham
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> Much of the country's income has been lost to waste, corruption, conventional armaments purchases, and attempts to develop weapons of mass destruction  <-- that doesn't look NPOV to me!
03:21 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cac in Dirham
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:22 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cents in Dirham
03:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 U.S. cents = 112.4565 Moroccan dirham
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in libyan dinar
03:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1300 cad in dinar
03:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:22 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in LYD
03:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
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03:22 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in LRD
03:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:23 <Vanhayes> bah
03:23 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in Mexican peso
03:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 12,446.3404 Mexican peso
03:23 <Vanhayes> #g 1300 cad in peso
03:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1,300 Canadian dollars = 12,446.3404 Mexican peso
03:24 <Vanhayes> anyways
03:24 <Vanhayes> #night
03:24 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:59 <Commn> #armaservers
03:59 <armabot> Commn: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (5 players) || Wild West - Fortress (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (4 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || .Tronners|.in|.Pyjamas|.High-rubber (1 more message)
04:01 <Commn> wild west for is crappy lag 
04:01 <Commn> fort*
04:07 <spidey> Commn, you're crappy lag
04:07 <spidey> =p
04:27 <DrJoeTron> wow
04:27 <DrJoeTron> 6 people at the cage
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04:31 <willzzz> i need some help
04:31 <willzzz> i have a AA server running, someone tells me to install the "shooter" mod
04:31 <willzzz> i search and can't find anything about it on the site, any ideas?
04:35 <DrJoeTron> the message board is a great way to start
04:35 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.armagetronad.net happy hunting.
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05:14 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:14 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (9:54 PM CST on November 22, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa. 
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07:18 <wrtlprnft> has anyone heard from philippec recently?
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10:39 <DrJoeTron> ping anyone awake
10:39 <DrJoeTron> i've found an online rom site
10:40 <DrJoeTron>  /emulator
10:40 <DrJoeTron> for nes
10:40 <DrJoeTron> its made through java
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11:21 <spidey> http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6152/desktopej9.jpg
11:22 <spidey> i have the cleanest desk ever!
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14:52 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6335 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs): More Io friendly rotator. No bindings yet because it seems clio can't handle functions that take no arguments.
15:11 <[dlh]> Hmm, I can't connect to any of the master servers.
15:11 <Commn> #armaservers
15:11 <wrtlprnft> i can connect to mine
15:11 <armabot> Commn: Norm's Place (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (6 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (4 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (3 players) || Strawberry Fields (3 players) || (1 more message)
15:12 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: must be a problem on your side, I just ssh'd to luke-jr_'s machine, it can reach all 4
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17:01 <Lucifer_arma> why does klaptop tell me I have 10 minutes of power left, but kpowersave says I have 20 minutes left?
17:03 <wrtlprnft> maybe they have different ways to calculate it :P
17:03 <Lucifer_arma> :)
17:03 <Lucifer_arma> is there anything special about Sunday 5 November and Sunday 19 November?
17:03 <Lucifer_arma> Were there ladles held those days or something?
17:04 <wrtlprnft> cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
17:04 <wrtlprnft> use that :P
17:04 <wrtlprnft> sunday 5 would be ladle day
17:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, it was saying 90% after the thing had been plugged in for a long time, so I suspect mostly a loss of calibration
17:04 <wrtlprnft> 1st sunday in a month
17:04 <Lucifer_arma> what about the 19th?
17:04 <wrtlprnft> dunno
17:04 <wrtlprnft> why?
17:04 <Lucifer_arma> wiki traffic spiked, including ad clicks
17:04 <Lucifer_arma> both of those days.
17:05 <wrtlprnft> maybe that was the day 2020 added info about the ladle-6
17:05 <Lucifer_arma> if it's a "natural phenomenon", rather than people just clicking ads because they want to be helpful, then the clicks are more important to me :)
17:05 <wrtlprnft> my player stats show nothing special about 11/9
17:05 <Lucifer_arma> I think he did start adding ladle info that day, or at least that weekend (it was this last weekend)
17:05 <wrtlprnft> my player stats show nothing special about 11/19
17:06 <Lucifer_arma> so they happen to show november 9?
17:06 <Lucifer_arma> er
17:06 <Lucifer_arma> 5?
17:06 <Lucifer_arma> which we know was a ladle day.... :)
17:06 <wrtlprnft> sec
17:06 <wrtlprnft> nov 5 isn't that special, either
17:07 <wrtlprnft> but it did peak to over 120 players online
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> so ladle traffic isn't terribly noticeable in the player stats then?
17:07 <wrtlprnft> not really
17:07 <wrtlprnft> sat 11 was a huge peak
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> that peak is probably ladle players, since afaik they're still doing a fair amount of meeting up in servers, and then they're playing games on several servers
17:07 <wrtlprnft> it extends above the graph
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that's cool :)
17:07 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/totalonlinehistory.png
17:09 <Lucifer_arma> did you use the gnu graphing program?  (I forgot what it's called)
17:09 <Lucifer_arma> also, I might be disconnected any minute, letting my battery run down intentionally :)
17:11 <wrtlprnft> no, i didn't
17:11 <wrtlprnft> it's called gnuplot
17:11 <wrtlprnft> i'm just generating an SVG and converting that to PNG
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17:21 <Lucifer_arma> have you tried to fit the player data to a function?
17:21 <Lucifer_arma> er, fit a function to the data?  whatever :)
17:23 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> turn it into something like sin(x^2) or something?
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> the gnuplot faq links a couple of programs for doing that, but mandriva doesn't have them in their package repos :(
17:43 <wrtlprnft> i don't think you can put that into any function
17:44 <wrtlprnft> it fluctuates from day to day, too
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> Written by Michael Courtney, servant of the Kingdom of God.
17:46 <Lucifer_arma>  Jesus Christ can take away your fear.
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> just what I need, a program that preaches to me when I run it
17:47 <ghableska> lmao
17:47 <wrtlprnft> #f
17:47 <armabot> Random Fortune: Q: How many IBM 370's does it take to execute a job? || A: Four, three to hold it down, and one to rip its head off.
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> um, you can fit a function to just about any data
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> just don't try to do it by hand, that's a pain.  :)  Get a program to do it for you.
17:50 <wrtlprnft> and what's the point?
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, what is the point of all this calculus stuff we're doing, anyway?
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> because after you've done that, you can make reasonable predictions
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> such as "How many players will we have in December?"
17:51 <wrtlprnft> i can give you the data and you do it :P
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> sure :)
17:51 <wrtlprnft> i'll run the mysql query
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> soon as I get a program to work to do it for me....  (at least, one that doesn't preach at me wen I run it)
17:54 <wrtlprnft> the query is running, but it'll take a while
17:54 <wrtlprnft> lots and lots of data
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> no hurry.  :)  I'm about to go clean my kitchen so we can bake some pies.  It's Thanksgiving, aka Genocide Day
17:56 <ghableska> heh
17:58 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/players.txt.bz2
17:59 <wrtlprnft> 1st col is player count, 2nd col is unix timestamp
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18:23 <madmax|pt> hi
18:23 <MaZuffeR> hi
18:23 <ghableska> hi
18:25 <wrtlprnft> hi
18:35 <wrtlprnft> <insert intelligent conversation here>
18:35 <ghableska> heh
18:36  * wrtlprnft hates the feeling of not being able to play on your own server because it's full.
18:37 <ghableska> #armaservers
18:37 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (7 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (6 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! Multi Maps (1 more message)
18:37 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v chico
18:37 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Chico's Brake Boost Styball (88.198.22.100:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20061115 unix dedic, Description: “Kind of like Ice Hockey. Score a goal. Brake is boost. Respawn is on. 12 axes.“, Players (8/8): 1 reyalP, =FR= Ryuran, ct~sol, CT~Voodoo, Marth, meriton, One, TrailBlazer
18:37 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: be glad that it's popular, and people actually want to play on it.
18:37 <wrtlprnft> heh
18:38 <wrtlprnft> i am
18:38 <ghableska> :P
18:38 <madmax|pt> #g 5/2771
18:38 <armabot> madmax|pt: 5 / 2,771 = 0.00180440274
18:43 <wrtlprnft> noone left for like 5 minutes now
18:44 <wrtlprnft> and someone else is tring to get in repeatedly as well
18:46 <ghableska> how can you tell?
18:46 <wrtlprnft> ha!
18:46 <wrtlprnft> logs
18:46 <wrtlprnft> got in
18:46 <ghableska> :P
18:46 <ghableska> gz
19:08 <wrtlprnft> had to leave
19:08 <ghableska> awww
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19:50 <spidey> weird
19:50 <spidey> ares caused my network to go down :(
19:50 <spidey> couldn't even connect to the router =/
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19:59 <guru3> gotta hate arses
20:09 <wrtlprnft> ?
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20:22 <Lucifer_arma> if it weren't for arses, where would shit come from?
20:33 <spidey> ares =|
20:33 <wrtlprnft> wow. I didn't know the windows XP setup was text-only
20:33 <spidey> lol?
20:33 <wrtlprnft> just found a cd, trying to install it in qemu
20:34 <spidey> btw
20:35 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/modernosinstaller.png
20:35 <wrtlprnft> it's like that for 10 minutes now
20:35 <spidey> http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html
20:35 <spidey> that's nice :)
20:35 <spidey> erm
20:35 <spidey> is that the format, or the file copy?
20:37 <wrtlprnft> file copy
20:38 <wrtlprnft> 1GB/week? how are they gonna keep that up?
20:38 <wrtlprnft> gotta be a catch somewhere
20:38 <spidey> eh?
20:38 <spidey> not really
20:38 <wrtlprnft> disk storage
20:38 <spidey> ya
20:38 <spidey> a friend showed me it
20:39 <spidey> he's been with them for along time
20:39 <wrtlprnft> so you start with 200 MB, and in the first week it increases by 4?
20:39 <spidey> ?
20:39 <spidey> 200GB
20:39 <wrtlprnft> *4
20:39 <wrtlprnft> =800GB
20:39 <spidey> b
20:39 <spidey> rt
20:39 <spidey> 'er*
20:39 <spidey> http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-features.html#disk_storage
20:40 <wrtlprnft> 200MB + 800MB = 1TB
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20:40 <spidey> 200mb + 800mb = 1gb
20:40 <spidey> #g 200 MB + 800 MB
20:40 <armabot> spidey: (200 megabytes) + (800 megabytes) = 1,000 megabytes
20:41 <wrtlprnft> argh
20:41 <spidey> lol
20:41 <wrtlprnft> i got confused
20:41 <wrtlprnft> by MB and TB
20:43 <wrtlprnft> how long can this darn setup thing take to copy some files?
20:44 <spidey> well
20:44 <spidey> installing winxp takes me about
20:44 <spidey> 30 minutes total
20:45 <spidey> installing it in vmware takes about 
20:45 <spidey> 35-40minutes
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> winxp's installer isn't text-only, it's "text in the beginning"
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> it copies all the files to your hard drive, then boots into a GUI that finishes it
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> yes, it's kind of silly anyway, especially since we have full-blown live CDs that can install themselves that make winxp look pretty primitive
20:48 <spidey> PEBart
20:48 <spidey> can make live windows cd's
20:48 <wrtlprnft> wow
20:49 <wrtlprnft> some external tool not supported by mircosoft
20:49 <spidey> ?
20:49 <wrtlprnft> and i can only insert it into the computer I have a license for
20:49 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can only install and use open source software you have a license for too :)
20:50 <spidey> wrtlprnft, erm
20:50 <spidey> you can only have "1" license key installed on "1" computer
20:50 <spidey> of course microsoft's morons, and there techsupport's even worse
20:51 <spidey> so it's not hard to get a invalid key activated
20:51 <spidey> =p
20:51 <spidey> i even told them i had it installed on more than one pc =/
20:51 <spidey> "ok we'll do it this time, but you'll need to purchase a new key next time"
20:51 <Lucifer_arma> they're not "morons" so much as "good businessmen"
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> letting customers get away with shit is part of "customer service"
20:52 <spidey> lol
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> same reason burger joints let you scam them for free burgers most of the time
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> they know you're scamming them, but they also know you'll buy a burger, and what's the loss to them, exactly?
20:52 <spidey> a burger? xD
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> Microsoft loses nothing activating a few invalid license keys
20:53 <wrtlprnft> wtf
20:53 <wrtlprnft> this setup s*** is installing a .swf file!
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> but they gain in the long run.  You're stuck with XP, you didn't find an alternate replacement
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll encounter software you can't crack, or you'll grow up, or something like that, and you will turn into money for microsoft
20:54 <spidey> heh
20:54 <spidey> hardly
20:54 <Lucifer_arma> which is why folks like me tell you not to bother with that piracy shit, it doesn't make you independent, it only guarantees you'll eventually give in to the evil empire
20:54 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-205-83.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
20:54 <spidey> the last software i cracked was registry mechanic, and that was LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ago
20:54 <Lucifer_arma> you're what, 17 now?  what do you know about it exactly?  When I was 17, I was fucking bulletproof.
20:54 <DrJoeTron> spidey www.virtualnes.com
20:54 <spidey> is it another game?
20:54 <spidey> i'm not downloading it =p
20:54 <DrJoeTron> its a billion games
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> come back when your 30 so you can tell me about all the money you wound up giving microsoft, so I can say "I told you so"
20:55 <DrJoeTron> its a java nes emulator
20:55 <spidey> i'm not 17 for 7 more days =p
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, what I've just told you is exactly why microsoft activated your license keys
20:56 <spidey> and the only money i'll give is for games, if they're good
20:56 <spidey> =p
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> the only difference is they've spent $millions researching the subject
20:57 <spidey> arf
20:57 <spidey> i gotta go
20:57 <spidey> thanksgiving thingy at my great grandmas
20:58 <DrJoeTron> is this another fucking stupid "MY OS IS BETTER THAN URRS! WRRYYYYYYY!!!
20:58 <DrJoeTron> conversation?
20:58 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's not
20:58 <DrJoeTron> i hope not
20:58 <Lucifer_arma> I'm saying "Microsoft let you scam them because they know you'll eventually give them a lot more money than they lose now"
20:58 <Lucifer_arma> and he's saying "never gonna happen"
20:58 <DrJoeTron> oh so it is
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's not!  :)
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> even in highly competitive markets, businesses let their customers scam them for free shit
20:59 <DrJoeTron> you'll be the first to know if that happens to me
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> you might think the damage is worse in a highly competitive market, but it probably isn't
21:00 <DrJoeTron> nah
21:00 <DrJoeTron> i know they make plenty of money
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> when you do have money, and you want <insert service or product here>, you'll think about the people you've talked to in the past before you think about trying new people
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> and if the people in the past are the people you've scammed successfully, you'll think positively of them
21:00 <DrJoeTron> if i have money i buy the software
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll give them your money
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> nonnoono, the issue isn't "don't steal software, it's immoral!"
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's "don't steal software from people you don't want to do business with!"
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> so, steal from your friends, basically, because you *will* get them back later
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> of course, you shouldn't steal in the first place...
21:02 <DrJoeTron> i thought this was common knowledge
21:03 <DrJoeTron> or at least steal from people that you're more than likely never see again.
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21:18 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! Multi Maps (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) (1 more message)
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21:21 <wrtlprnft> “this can take several minutes”
21:21 <wrtlprnft> HAHA
21:22 <Vanhayes> ?
21:22 <wrtlprnft> darn windows install thing
21:22 <ghableska> o.0
21:22 <wrtlprnft> my qemu is too good for that sh***
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23:07 <DrJoeTron> whats an sh***?
23:09 <madmax|pt> a **ell?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> a sh*** is something that tells me for like the 20th time how great the newest internet explorer technology is
23:12 <wrtlprnft> and save
23:12 <wrtlprnft> *safe
23:13 <DrJoeTron> but wrtlprnft 
23:13 <DrJoeTron> its amazing
23:13 <DrJoeTron> dont you know?
23:13 <wrtlprnft> very.
23:13 <DrJoeTron> its the newest, latest, and greatest
23:13 <DrJoeTron> so easy to use
23:13 <DrJoeTron> hey
23:13 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft 
23:13 <wrtlprnft> well
23:13 <DrJoeTron> why not try it. today?
23:13 <wrtlprnft> i'd prefer if it let me actually use it
23:14 <wrtlprnft> but it's just telling me for the 20th time
23:14 <DrJoeTron> things take time
23:14 <wrtlprnft> while not using up any CPU
23:14  * wrtlprnft notes that “newest” means 6.0 in this case
23:14 <DrJoeTron> did you download vista or something?
23:14 <wrtlprnft> no
23:14 <wrtlprnft> i'm trying to install xp in qemu
23:14 <wrtlprnft> but i guess i'll just throw that CD out of the window, it's useless
23:15  * wrtlprnft thinks microsoft should just design an animated GIF for that purpose
23:18 <wrtlprnft> and the great thing about windows: I have no indication whatsoever where it's failing and what's going wrong so I could search for it.
23:19 <wrtlprnft> so no error message to google, err, msn, for
23:19 <DrJoeTron> there isnt anything going wrong
23:19 <DrJoeTron> then
23:21 <DrJoeTron> holy fuck
23:21 <DrJoeTron> 3 1gb usb drives for $35 tonight
23:22 <DrJoeTron> sweet deal
23:23 <wrtlprnft> well, what's it doing then? waiting for christmas?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> no CPU useage
23:25 <wrtlprnft> well, I'll let it sit until tomorrow, though I don't think it will change.
23:25 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:25 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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23:27 <ice-tyler> hey whats that website beta.armagetron. or somthing?
23:28 <Compn> http://beta.armagetronad.net
23:29 <ice-tyler> thx
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23:41 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:41 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 60.8°F (3:54 PM CST on November 23, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa. 
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