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Log from 2006-11-20:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 20 2006
00:00 <DrJoeTron> so then we ask "hey, if we can just ask the people who put it out if we could have it would it be considred a gift then?"
00:00 <DrJoeTron> we didnt get an answer
00:00 <ghableska> heh
00:00 <DrJoeTron> so we walk it back
00:00 <DrJoeTron> wait for the cop to leave
00:00 <DrJoeTron> go up stairs ring the door bell
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00:01 <DrJoeTron> this sorority girl comes out
00:01 <DrJoeTron> "hey, we noticed you have a pile of junk on your curb, can we take the moped?"
00:02 <DrJoeTron> "uh, sure its been here since we moved in so you can go ahead, we dont know who owns it but its abandoned"
00:02 <DrJoeTron> "oh sweet thanks!"
00:02 <DrJoeTron> so we start walking it back with admiration\
00:02 <Commn> lol @ cop 'arent allowed to take trash from curb' 
00:02 <Commn> perfectly legal :)
00:03 <DrJoeTron> not in madison
00:03 <Commn> recieving stolen property however....
00:03 <DrJoeTron> half way back "wait guys, she said she wasnt the owner right"
00:03 <DrJoeTron> "yeah so what its abonadoned"
00:04 <DrJoeTron> "yeah but think about it, if this is a vehicle, it has to have a title"
00:04 <DrJoeTron> "and its registered to SOME ONE
00:04 <Commn> shouldve asked cop for vin number trace to owner ;p
00:04 <DrJoeTron> "so no matter what its considered stealing"
00:04 <DrJoeTron> we should have
00:04 <DrJoeTron> but we thought that was the owner in the house
00:05 <spidey> lol@ joe stealing a moped then having to return it
00:05 <spidey> :p
00:05 <DrJoeTron> yeah, shows how much there is to do in a college town
00:06 <spidey> you just didn't look hard enough :p
00:06 <DrJoeTron> not this place
00:06 <DrJoeTron> although its madison 
00:06 <DrJoeTron> its the biggest party school in the country
00:07 <spidey> then how could there be nothing to do?
00:08 <DrJoeTron> no one having a party
00:08 <DrJoeTron> and it was too late to do anything when we got up there
00:09 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:09 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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00:28 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:28 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (4:54 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.41 in 1030 hPa. 
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00:47 <DrJoeTron> should i get final fantasy 3 or the new super mario bros for DS
00:48 <ghableska> erhm
00:48 <ghableska> What do you think?
00:48 <ghableska> :)
00:48 <DrJoeTron> well
00:48 <DrJoeTron> one is more in depth
00:48 <DrJoeTron> is rated as a "dated" game
00:48 <DrJoeTron> but i lvoe old games
00:48 <DrJoeTron> and its an old Final fantasy game
00:48 <DrJoeTron> which are pretty fun
00:49 <DrJoeTron> and then theres SMB which is generic mario game
00:49 <ghableska> hmm.
00:49 <DrJoeTron> but has lots of replay value
00:49 <ghableska> go with Final Fantasy
00:49 <DrJoeTron> ok
00:49 <ghableska> generic is bad
00:49 <DrJoeTron> but its also a generic final fantasy game
00:49 <ghableska> oh, lol
00:50 <DrJoeTron> i mean you've played one final fantasy you've played them all
00:50 <ghableska> replay value is better though
00:50 <DrJoeTron> just like any platform mario game
00:50 <DrJoeTron> the reviews for SMB are good
00:51 <DrJoeTron> reviews for FF are ok, but for stupid reasons
00:51 <ghableska> oh
00:51 <DrJoeTron> i think il go with smb
00:52 <DrJoeTron> http://ds.ign.com/objects/682/682879.html smb   http://ds.ign.com/articles/746/746066p1.html ff3
00:52 <DrJoeTron> brb
01:16 <DrJoeTron> so whatcha think?
01:19 <DrJoeTron> ghableska smb or ff3
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01:28 <ghableska> smb
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01:39 <Durka> Fake Z-Man alert in CT CTF
01:39 <Durka> #lastseen z man
01:39 <armabot> Durka: the Z man seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild CTF (clone by wrtlprnft) right now.
01:40 <Durka> #hello
01:40 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: BOFH Excuse #82: || Yeah, yo mama dresses you funny and you need a mouse to delete files.
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02:38 <spidey> IT'S THAT FONAKY PERSON
02:38 <spidey> --caps
02:38 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (6:54 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa. 
02:53 <Fonkay> it's me
02:54 <Fonkay> *fonkay
03:32 <spidey> lol
03:32 <ghableska> wow
03:32 <spidey> ?
03:32 <spidey> ?
03:32 <ghableska> ?
03:32 <spidey> ?
03:37 <Vanhayes> ¿
03:38 <ghableska> #cnn 50256
03:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Oskaloosa, IA is 30.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Wind: NW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
03:38 <ghableska> er
03:38 <spidey> ok
03:38 <spidey> vanhayes
03:38 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
03:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 31.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Wind: NW at 4 mph (6 km/h).
03:38  * spidey renames ghableska to vanhayes2
03:38 <spidey> -o
03:38 <spidey> =p
03:39  * Vanhayes renames spidey Vanhayes-1
03:39 <Vanhayes> - is a minus by the way not a dash
03:41 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Wind becoming west 20 km/h overnight. Low minus 1.; Monday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Wind west 20 km/h gusting to 40. High plus 5. Monday night..clearing near midnight. Wind west 20 km/h (1 more message)
03:41 <Vanhayes> #more
03:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: gusting to 40 becoming northwest 20 in the evening. Low minus 3.; Tuesday - Sunny. High plus 3.;
03:41 <Vanhayes> it finally stoped raining after about 3 weeks of it 
03:42 <ghableska> haha
03:43 <spidey> hmm
03:43 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:43 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 40.8°F (8:43 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa. 
03:43 <spidey> few minutes pause....
03:43 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:43 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 40.8°F (8:43 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa. 
03:43 <spidey> few minutes pause....
03:43 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:43 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 40.8°F (8:44 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa. 
03:44 <ghableska> are you trying to time-travel?
03:44 <spidey> nah just mocking you and hayes
03:44 <spidey> =p
03:44 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (7:54 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.44 in 1031 hPa. 
03:44 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
03:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 31.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Wind: NW at 4 mph (6 km/h).
03:44 <spidey> wow
03:44 <spidey> like nothing changed from 5 minutes ago
03:44 <spidey> cool eh =p
03:45 <ghableska> Paris has a giant catfish sign?
03:46 <Vanhayes> paris has the eifel tower, duh
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03:46 <spidey> we have both
03:46 <ghableska> lol
03:47 <spidey> Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com.
03:47 <spidey> o.O
03:47 <ghableska> o.0
03:48 <spidey> <ghableska> lol
03:48 <spidey> acl
03:48 <spidey> http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php3?tip_AttractionNo==2689
03:48 <ghableska> ?
03:48 <spidey> eiffel tower
03:48 <spidey> ;x
03:49 <ghableska> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Thoughts_on_ping
03:50 <spidey> 'er
03:50 <spidey> something's messing p again
03:50 <spidey> i'm getting server not found errors =/
03:50 <spidey> fuck it, maybe it'll fix itself tomorrow
03:51 <spidey> i'm going to sleep
03:51 <spidey> #night
03:51 <armabot> Good night spidey!
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:56 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 53.4°F (8:55 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Rising). 
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04:23 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:23 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 46.9°F (9:24 PM CST on November 19, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa. 
04:25 <ghableska> #night
04:25 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:36 <Van-hayes> #armaservers
04:36 <armabot> Van-hayes: Norm's Place (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (7 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! Multi Maps (4 players) || The Lobster Cage (3 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server (2 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (1 players) || UnRaTeD's Server (0 players) || Race Around The (1 more message)
04:36 <Van-hayes> meh
04:36 <Van-hayes> #night
04:36 <armabot> Good night Van-hayes!
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6163938.stm
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06:38 <Lucifer_arma> these penguins are cool
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2040 - 28
06:49 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2,040 - 28 = 2,012
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2040 - 56
06:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2,040 - 56 = 1,984
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2032-1984
07:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2,032 - 1,984 = 48
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2016-1984
07:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2,016 - 1,984 = 32
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--- Log opened Mon Nov 20 10:14:45 2006
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17:35 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6324 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (8 files in 6 dirs):
17:35 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added eEventNotification. Now just need to add in all events and Growl support (and wait a year or two for servers to upgrade).
17:35 <armabot> armagetronad: * Reserved a couple versions in sn_versionString[]
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17:42 <luke-jr_work> wtf?
17:43 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, BTW, even with my lax standards for 0.3 releases, I'd still make it a requirement to fix sound :p
17:46 <luke-jr_work> (last time arma compiled, it still blocked)
17:48 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6325 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/network/nConfig.cpp: Oops, forgot the commas.
17:48 <[dlh]> damn, sourceforge sucks. “Transmitting file data .svn: Commit failed (details follow):”
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17:54 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: well, it works, somehow
17:55 <[dlh]> Yeah, but it screws up your working copy when you have added files.
17:55 <luke-jr_work> heh
17:55 <luke-jr_work> svn: REPORT of '/svnroot/armagetronad/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read response body: Secure connection truncated (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
17:55 <luke-jr_work> wtf
17:56 <[dlh]> I think I got that one too when I checkouted again.
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17:57 <luke-jr_work> it tried to delete build too
17:57 <luke-jr_work> and the remade it?
17:57 <luke-jr_work> wtf...
17:57 <luke-jr_work> svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/winlibs': 500 Internal Server Error (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
17:57 <luke-jr_work> luke-jr@!tsurukikun! winlibs $ svn switch https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/.emptydir
17:58 <luke-jr_work> btw
17:58 <luke-jr_work> since you all are *considering* merging pig stuff into 028
17:58 <luke-jr_work> I'm going to go ahead and make RESPAWN_HACK default
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18:32 <wrtlprnft> NO!
18:32 <wrtlprnft> it's a hack
18:38 <luke-jr_work> no more than winzones are a hack
18:39 <luke-jr_work> certainly less than the flag
18:57 <wrtlprnft> but it's buggy?
18:57 <wrtlprnft> no balancing while the round is running
18:57 <wrtlprnft> and rounds will run forever
19:00 <spidey> #g 694 CAD in USD
19:00 <armabot> spidey: 694 Canadian dollars = 605.320541 U.S. dollars
19:08 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, erm, balancing?
19:08 <luke-jr_work> so what if rounds run longer
19:08 <luke-jr_work> ?
19:12 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: if you have two teams
19:12 <luke-jr_work> potentially a problem I guess
19:13 <luke-jr_work> but I'm sure pig's stuff can be broken by changing other stuff too
19:13 <luke-jr_work> broken-in-gameplay that is
19:13 <wrtlprnft> pig's modes all have a defined round end
19:13 <wrtlprnft> at least it's possible to define one, and the round ends if everyone on one team dies
19:14 <luke-jr_work> it's possible to define a round end for deathmatch too
19:14 <wrtlprnft> + with RESPAWN_HACK it's possible to be spawned in confined areas of the map
19:14 <luke-jr_work> time limit, score limit, or winzone
19:14 <wrtlprnft> that's the match end
19:14 <luke-jr_work> is it?
19:14 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:14 <luke-jr_work> who said there must be >1 round per match?
19:14 <luke-jr_work> winzone still ends only a round
19:14 <wrtlprnft> we once tried your puckmap w/ respawning
19:15 <luke-jr_work> puckmap isn't the best idea :p
19:15 <luke-jr_work> it has holes
19:15 <wrtlprnft> chaos.
19:15 <luke-jr_work> heh
19:15 <wrtlprnft> well, my fixed version w/o holes
19:16 <luke-jr_work> still, deathmatch doesn't hurt anything when its disabled
19:38 <luke-jr_work> btw, was that "once" any time recent? IIRC, something like that was fixed once
19:40 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:40 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:40 <luke-jr_work> ?what
19:40 <wrtlprnft> what “once”
19:40 <luke-jr_work> <wrtlprnft> we once tried your puckmap w/ respawning
19:41 <luke-jr_work> p: ecno taht
19:41 <wrtlprnft> oh
19:41 <luke-jr_work> oops :o
19:41 <wrtlprnft> that was when lagfarm was up
19:41 <luke-jr_work> hm
19:42 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=5721
19:42 <luke-jr_work> what was your server's hostname again?
19:42 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6326 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Added notifications. Growl isn't working just yet.
19:42 <luke-jr_work> wtf is growl?
19:42 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia growl
19:42 <[dlh]> http://growl.info
19:42 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, The topic or post you requested does not exist
19:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.20 seconds: Growl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growl>; Gator Growl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gator_Growl>; Death grunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_grunt>; Growling (wind instruments) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
19:43 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v wrtlprnft
19:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild CTF (clone by wrtlprnft) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20061115 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
19:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: you logged in?
19:43 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft.servegame.org
19:43 <luke-jr_work> [dlh], wtf will Arma use growl for? :p
19:43 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, servegame.org is the hard part to remember
19:44 <[dlh]> notifications, like when you die early in a round and switch to your web browser – it is useful to be notified that a new round is starting.
19:44 <luke-jr_work> [dlh], ah, yes
19:44 <luke-jr_work> good idea
19:44 <luke-jr_work> is it abstracted so we can add *nix support?
19:44 <[dlh]> Sure, just plug in-to se_eventNotificationHandle.
19:44 <luke-jr_work> cool
19:45 <[dlh]> if you find a *nix notification thingy, that is
19:45 <luke-jr_work> eh, shouldn't be hard
19:45 <luke-jr_work> KDE has one I bet
19:45 <luke-jr_work> KNotify, at least
19:45 <luke-jr_work> does it support user customization?
19:45 <luke-jr_work> and multiple plugins?
19:46 <luke-jr_work> eg, a OSX user could enable built-in audial notification for new match, and growl for new round
19:47 <[dlh]> yeah, you can do that. You can switch the notification type for each note sent.
19:47 <[dlh]> or enable/disable it
19:47 <luke-jr_work> nice
19:48 <[dlh]> the only problem is the server has to send the notice, so this won't be useful until a year or two later when all the servers are running 0.4.
19:48 <luke-jr_work> eh
19:48 <luke-jr_work> clients can't send notices
19:48 <luke-jr_work> ?
19:49 <wrtlprnft> the client doesn't know about matches?
19:49 <luke-jr_work> they know when someone says your name in chat
19:49 <[dlh]> The client gets a new match message, but it doesn't actually run the simulation, right?
19:50 <wrtlprnft> but it does notice that all scores get reset to 0
19:53 <luke-jr_work> if you hack that in, I'd make sure it's only enabled for pre-notification protocol ver :p
19:54 <[dlh]> it only sends notes to clients that support it.
19:58 <luke-jr_work> right, but wrtl was suggesting clients detect new match
19:58 <luke-jr_work> by score resetting
19:58 <luke-jr_work> if he does that, he should only do it for servers that don't speak the new protocol
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20:05 <[dlh]> dammit,  that last commit screwed up my working copy again because I added files. argh
20:05 <wrtlprnft> :s
20:05 <[dlh]> now I have to rebuild :\
20:06 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:07 <wrtlprnft> …
20:07 <[dlh]> …
20:07 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, I'm running a test on your server, k?
20:07  * wrtlprnft loves those useful comments :)
20:07 <wrtlprnft> sure
20:07 <luke-jr_work> cool
20:07 <luke-jr_work> hm
20:07 <wrtlprnft> as long as it doesn't use more than 1TB of traffic, isn't sending spam and isn't illegal i'm fine
20:07 <luke-jr_work> wonder where 4-team fort config is
20:08 <luke-jr_work> erm
20:08  * luke-jr_work ponders bw use
20:08 <luke-jr_work> theoretically, it could use almost 3 MB/sec
20:08 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Durka/4_team_fortress/side_chutes-0.0.2.aamap.xml
20:08 <wrtlprnft> #g 3MB/s * 1 month
20:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (3 (MB / s)) * 1 month = 7.52375745 terabytes
20:08 <wrtlprnft> oww
20:09 <wrtlprnft> i hope it's temporary
20:09 <luke-jr_work> heh
20:09 <luke-jr_work> I doubt it'll fill up
20:09 <wrtlprnft> you wanna run a server for 64 players?
20:09 <luke-jr_work> #g 6 KB/sec * 500 in TB/mo
20:09 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:09 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, it has MAX_PLAYERS 500
20:10 <luke-jr_work> #g 6 KB/sec * 500 * 1 month
20:10 <armabot> luke-jr_work: (6 (KB / sec)) * 500 * (1 month) = 7.34741939 terabytes
20:10 <wrtlprnft> well, 500 players is more than this server can handle
20:10 <luke-jr_work> heh
20:10 <wrtlprnft> and more than any client will be able to
20:10 <luke-jr_work> at least, 500 players 24/7
20:10 <luke-jr_work> oh?
20:11 <luke-jr_work> hm
20:11 <luke-jr_work> do we already send updates based on distance?
20:11 <[dlh]> I've yet to see a 32 player server full. I doubt 500 would fill up :)
20:11 <luke-jr_work> eg, if someone is 1000 units away, don't update as fast as someone 20 away
20:11 <wrtlprnft> note that units are relative
20:12 <luke-jr_work> ...?
20:13 <wrtlprnft> 1000 metres on a highspeed server are waay less than 1000 metres on nano
20:13 <luke-jr_work> so?
20:13 <luke-jr_work> the speed also means 1000 units quickly can change to 100
20:13 <luke-jr_work> on a fast server
20:13 <wrtlprnft> yep
20:13 <wrtlprnft> but then it's too late
20:13 <luke-jr_work> so as it approaches you, the server tells you more about it
20:16 <[dlh]> working copy got screwed again. great.
20:17 <wrtlprnft> you didn't even commit anything?
20:17 <[dlh]> I did, I think it is the cia thing messing it up.
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6327 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Fixed typo and moved files to src/macosx. Growl now works.
20:17 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:19 <wrtlprnft> you mean the client side script?
20:19 <wrtlprnft> it can't be their server(s) as it's just sending an email
20:26 <luke-jr_work> could be SF =p
20:40 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6328 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/macosx/AAGrowlPlugin.mm: Removed debug output
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20:50 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6329 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/macosx/AAGrowlPlugin.mm: Disabled some growl notifications by default — the user can re-enable them if they like.
21:01 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6330 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/NEWS: Added NEWS entry for Growl notifications
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21:15 <DrJoeTron> According to Richard Haier, et al. prolonged Tetris activity can also lead to more efficient brain activity. When first playing Tetris, brain function and activity increases, along with greater cerebral energy consumption, measured by glucose metabolic rate. As Tetris players become more proficient, their brains show a reduced consumption of glucose, indicating more efficient brain activity.
21:15 <DrJoeTron> yay :)\
21:21 <luke-jr_work> or less brain activity...
21:22 <DrJoeTron> no it says here more
21:23 <Lackadaisical> less because it's more efficient?
21:23 <DrJoeTron> that would make more sense
21:27  * luke-jr_work installs tetris
21:27 <luke-jr_work> does it by any chance get me more overall time too?
21:29 <DrJoeTron> it makes you want to pack things
21:29 <DrJoeTron> thats about it
21:35 <luke-jr_work> O.o
21:37 <Vanhayes> o.0
21:37 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: Strawberry Fields (15 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || °¯ps arena (13 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (9 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (7 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild CTF (clone by wrtlprnft) (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Gamma Deathmatch (1 more message)
21:37 <Vanhayes> #more
21:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: Server (6 players) || Brotherz From Another Motherz (3 players) || $[ICE]$ Clan Server!!!! (2 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (2 players) || thecowsfarm(high accelerations, high rubber and cows by epsy) (1 players) || Arena 51 Fight Club (1 players)
21:37 <wrtlprnft> wow my servers are getting full
21:37 <wrtlprnft> 14 players right now
21:37 <[dlh]> everyone go to the 500 player server
21:37 <Vanhayes> which ones are yours? stybal and ctwf?
21:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:38 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: which one is that?
21:38 <Vanhayes> man, I missed styball
21:38 <[dlh]> luke jr's test server #2 or something
21:41 <Vanhayes> hmm cant find it on the master list
21:42 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: try until you hit master 4
21:42 <wrtlprnft> it's only on there right now
21:42 <Vanhayes> ok
21:42 <Vanhayes> ah ok got it now
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21:43  * wrtlprnft just got a new idea for the cockpit system
21:44 <luke-jr_work> O.o
21:44 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, they're complaining about lag...
21:44 <luke-jr_work> w/ 3 ppl
21:44 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:44 <luke-jr_work> on test #2
21:44 <wrtlprnft> i was just on there
21:44 <luke-jr_work> yeah
21:44 <luke-jr_work> [3] Slowcoaster: wow, with just 3 people its laggy
21:44 <wrtlprnft> anyways, some people will always complain
21:45 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:45 <wrtlprnft> and note that there's 2 other servers running
21:45 <Vanhayes> yes I will
21:45 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, so?
21:45 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: that was me, I was slidey most of the turns I did
21:45 <wrtlprnft> anyways, give me a server that Vanhayes isn't lagging on
21:46 <wrtlprnft> besides localhost
21:46 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:46 <Vanhayes> ugh, wrtl did you put Ice hockey in the server discription of styball?
21:46 <wrtlprnft> not me
21:46 <wrtlprnft> probably ed
21:46 <wrtlprnft> he also changed the map
21:47 <wrtlprnft> it's more like ice hockey now
21:47 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v chico
21:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Chico's Brake Boost Styball ( running 0.2.8_alpha20061115 unix dedic, Description: “Kind of like Ice Hockey. Score a goal. Brake is boost. Respawn is on. 12 axes.“, Players (6/8): =FR= Ryuran, CT|Ðr.Fu×{, Merlin, niro, schwuli, Slowcoaster
21:48 <Vanhayes> ugh, I hate the phrase "ice hockey"
21:48 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:49  * wrtlprnft hates the phrase “I hate …”
21:49 <Vanhayes> I guess its like europeans and soccer
21:49  * wrtlprnft hates soccer
21:50 <wrtlprnft> and on styball i mostly run around killing people and ignore the ball
21:50 <wrtlprnft> unless there's a good opportunity
21:50 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:50 <Vanhayes> heh, ya thats the one thing I dont like about this one, less focus on styball, more on killing
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21:56 <Vanhayes> i do like the new map tho
22:00 <wrtlprnft> well, just imagine it was tetris or something
22:01 <luke-jr_work> lol
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22:34 <luke-jr_work> hi van #2
22:35 <Van-hayes> hi luke-jr_work #.01
22:35 <Van-hayes> #weather saint john
22:35 <armabot> Van-hayes: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of rain showers or flurries early this evening. Clearing overnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h becoming light overnight. Low minus 3 except plus 2 along the coast.; Tuesday - Sunny. Wind becoming west (1 more message)
22:39 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/test/crazy_fortress-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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22:46 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/fortress/drunken_fortress-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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22:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/fortress/soccer_fortress-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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22:54 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: since you refuse to provide more information than "sound is broken", I'd make it a requirement you shut up until you learn how to deliver useful bug reports
22:55 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, I've given more info
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> you haven't given any info I can actually use to figure it out, therefore it may never be fixed
22:55 <luke-jr_work> if you want me to repeat it, it appears that something in the sound is blocking when leaving a game to go to the regular menu
22:56 <luke-jr_work> to reproduce, use all your sound device's streams up and try playing, then exit
22:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that bug does exist
22:58 <luke-jr_work> it sure does
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/test/killer_map-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> use up my sound device's streams?  Like, play a stereo file?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> no
23:12 <wrtlprnft> have so many apps running that your sound card can't handle any more
23:12 <wrtlprnft> then arma will hang on exit until one slot gets free
23:12 <wrtlprnft> happened a lot to me, my sound driver only supported one slot at a time until recently
23:13 <wrtlprnft> or its config was messed up or whatever
23:14 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:14 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:17 <luke-jr_work> mine only does one as well
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23:29 <Van-hayes> #armaservers
23:29 <armabot> Van-hayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7 players) || wrtlprnft's ladle/tournament fortress (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! Multi Maps (5 players) (1 more message)
23:30 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/fortress/4_team_fortress-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
23:50 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> apparently I can't handle internet radio either
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> I just find a new stream when the old stream is playing a sucky song
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00:06 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 23 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal]
00:06 <luke-jr_work> I think LOL clan was the most annoying form of lol
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00:06 <Lucifer_arma> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:07 <madmax|pt> i would be worried too
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> I hope you have at least some idea of what "clan" means in Texas
00:07 <Vanhayes> klan?
00:07 <madmax|pt> oO
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> think: white sheets, burning crosses, and dead black people
00:07 <luke-jr_work> Planned Parenthood?
00:07 <madmax|pt> well, klan != clan
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> not much difference around here
00:08 <luke-jr_work> http://www.klanparenthood.com/
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> replace the burning crosses with kick votes, "j00 r a n00b!", and the like
00:08 <madmax|pt> I think I'm starting to like xS as much as I like LoD right now
00:09 <Vanhayes> worst phrase in tron ever is "re"
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> no it's not
00:10 <Vanhayes> I want everyone who screams that 20 times per minute to just die
00:10 <DrJoeTron> the worst phrase is "insta"
00:10 <luke-jr_work> re!!!
00:10  * Lucifer_arma notes it's an old irc phrase
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> we should start a clan called INXS
00:10 <madmax|pt> "rererere OMG re!!! we're doomed!"
00:10 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:10 <[dlh]> LOL!
00:10 <luke-jr_work> INXS?
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> every single one of us will be the devil inside
00:11 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:11 <luke-jr_work> how about a IPA clan?
00:11  * Lucifer_arma checks his collection for INXS
00:11 <luke-jr_work> IRC Pwns Ady
00:11 <DrJoeTron> haha
00:12 <luke-jr_work> did he give up yet btw?
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> oh no!  It looks like I don't have any INXS!
00:12 <DrJoeTron> i do!
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> give what up?  his IM thingee?
00:12 <DrJoeTron> i've got some INXS
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: you do?  Kick?
00:14 <DrJoeTron> nah, what you need, and kiss the dirt
00:14 <DrJoeTron> i should have the devil inside but i cant find it
00:17 <DrJoeTron> wait wait
00:17 <DrJoeTron> theres something we all equally hate here
00:17  * DrJoeTron drum roll *
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> On November 22, 1997, Hutchence was found dead in a Sydney hotel room, an apparent victim of suicide. Some speculate his death was actually an accident, the result of autoerotic asphyxiation
00:17 <DrJoeTron> Chuck Norris Jokes
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> so he might have killed himself jacking off?
00:17 <DrJoeTron> yup
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> ooooooooooooooo, Melissaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa
00:21 <madmax|pt> that's expressive
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> you're in my dreams!  You're with me every day!
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> I was surprised to find Mercyful Fate on the PMRC's dirty 15 list.  I didn't think they'd even be big enough to be on Tipper's radar
00:23 <DrJoeTron> my god
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I find the PMRC's filthy fifteen list to be pretty lame.  That's the filthiest they could come up with?  I don't think they gave it all a good listen
00:23 <DrJoeTron> i cannot stand people who use "lol" as punctuation
00:23 <DrJoeTron> omg hi lol.
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> Peace Sells but who's buying? had to have been on the market already
00:24 <DrJoeTron> omg Lucifer_arma ur threads r 2 long to reed lol.
00:24  * Lucifer_arma notes DrJoeTron (hi there!) can'ts stand Your_mom anymore (Your_mom uses lol as punctuation from tie to time)
00:24 <DrJoeTron> good
00:24 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom stole my sack lunch today
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet I could put up a filthy fifteen list of more objectionable songs than the PMRC's list
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> even limiting myself to music that was out in 1984 or whenever it was they made that list
00:27 <DrJoeTron> if the animals could talk, they'd be cursing my name, I'd be getting death threats if they could write.
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> is the PMRC still kicking around?  or did they finally hang their heads in shame?
00:28 <DrJoeTron> and if the animals could shoot, i'd be hanging off a wall they'd be getting me first so i gotta get 'em all.
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00:31 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of music does Tipper Gore listen to that doesn't have any sexual content?  My baby does the hanky-panky?
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> so, if Al Gore were to win the presidency in 2008, would we see the PMRC come back with a vengeance?
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00:43 <DrJoeTron> we'd see funner futurama jokes
00:46 <Vanhayes> hmm, when is the new futurama starting?
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01:01 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails -v epsilon
01:01 <armabot> madmax|pt: Carina Epsilon (high speed) ( running unix dedicated, url: http://armagetronad.sourceforge.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
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01:16 <DrJoeTron> Vanhayes sometime in 2008
01:17 <DrJoeTron> cartoon network is losing rights to them then and comedy central gets exclusive rights to the show
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01:30 <ghableska> hello
01:45 <DrJoeTron> ghableska i flipped a coin and got FF3
01:46 <ghableska> lol
01:46 <ghableska> are you happy with it?
01:46 <DrJoeTron> its pretty fun
01:46 <DrJoeTron> interesting too
01:46 <DrJoeTron> because its as basic as the new game
01:46 <DrJoeTron> but with 3d graphics
01:46 <DrJoeTron> phoenix downs are hard to come by :/
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01:52 <Van-hayes> #ping
01:52 <armabot> pong
01:54 <Van-hayes> #pong
01:54 <armabot> ping
01:54 <Van-hayes> #list alias
01:54 <armabot> Van-hayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
01:55 <Van-hayes> #piong
01:55 <armabot> poing
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01:57 <Van-hayes> #poing
01:57 <armabot> piong
01:57 <Van-hayes> ahh its the spidey 
01:57 <spidey> nope
01:57 <spidey> #last --nolimit --with spidey
01:57 <armabot> spidey: [02:01:09] <Van-hayes> ahh its the spidey, [03:42:59] * Vanhayes renames spidey Vanhayes-1, [23:12:59] <luke-jr_> spidey: what???, [23:11:57] <luke-jr_> spidey: wtf?, [22:52:39] <wrtlprnft> spidey: just need to sleep some 2^26 hours until you're 20, [22:52:08] <Vanhayes> spidey: fly around the world really fast and you can travel through time, [22:50:07] <wrtlprnft> spidey: go to bed and you'll wake up some 8 (4 more messages)
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02:00 <Van-hayes> #night
02:00 <armabot> Good night Van-hayes!
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02:15 <Lucifer_arma> how can they describe Bill Gates as an atheist?  He thinks he *is* God, hardly an unbeliever!
02:16 <ghableska> heh
02:16 <ghableska> who described him as one?
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> article on slashdot that I noticed while I was hunting for their rss feed
02:22 <ghableska> ah
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> I just setup akregator with a custom google news page that includes texas news and thought I'd start picking up other news sites I haven't read because of the inconvenience
02:22 <ghableska> I'm reading a book about atheism called The God Delusion
02:22 <ghableska> by Richard Dawkins
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> I'm reading a book about atheism called The Autobiography of Lucifer_arma
02:22 <ghableska> :)
02:23 <ghableska> must be a fascinating read
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I've seen it all before ;)
02:23 <ghableska> heh
02:23 <ghableska> it had a nice quote though
02:24 <ghableska> "When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion."
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> I said something very similar to than to the mormons that were over a few weeks ago
02:26 <ghableska> haha
02:27 <ghableska> the door-to-door ones?
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> yep
02:28 <ghableska> what was the reaction?
02:40 <GodTodd> how about when one person suffers from a delusion and calls it religion?
02:41 <ghableska> he's called a prophet.
02:41 <GodTodd> ahhh...but only if he succeeds in spreading the delusion
02:42 <ghableska> true
02:42 <GodTodd> otherwise, i think, that's when he's a 'religious kook' or somesortofthingthere
02:46 <GodTodd> wtf is this freeciv-andrew dude?
02:47 <GodTodd> i've heard mention of him in here too
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> where do you see the freeciv-andrew dude?
02:57 <GodTodd> now?
02:59 <GodTodd> his name came up in #freeciv
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03:11 <Durka> hi
03:12 <DrJoeTron> spidey ghableska did you two make any more tracks?
03:16 <ghableska> I never completed mine, heh
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03:35 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:36 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 41.0°F (7:54 PM CST on November 20, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa. 
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04:08 <spidey> DrJoeTron, not yet
04:51 <ghableska> #night
04:51 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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06:00 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:00 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 39.6°F (11:01 PM CST on November 20, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.46 in 1031.4 hPa. 
06:42  * Lucifer_arma yawns
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 42.8°F (11:41 PM CST on November 20, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa. 
06:44 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> so my wife found out why our electric bill is always so high
06:46 <GodTodd> why's that?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> the City of Austin charges 0.06/kwh during the summer
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> but TXU (our electric company) charges a flat rate of 15 cents/kwh all year
06:46 <GodTodd> i'm sure it's the same way here
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> that's nearly 3 times the City of Austin!  Pedernales is more expensive than Austin, they charge a flat rate of 7 cents/kwh all year
06:47 <GodTodd> i hear they're "investigating" txu because of record profits this year
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> so we're looking into moving farther into Austin, this is ridiculous
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> somethiing tells me our wonderful governor isn't going to get much done :/
06:47 <GodTodd> i doubt he will
06:48 <GodTodd> repubs favor the rich
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> who's your electric company?  TXU?
06:48 <GodTodd> yep
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> for the price, we could afford $1000/month in rent if we lived in the city of austin :/
06:48 <GodTodd> we get mail from reliant regularly tho
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> that changes the available options quite a bit
06:49 <GodTodd> sure does
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> well, *some* houses in this neighborhood can get service from Pedernales, but ours can't
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> so we could move, stay within the neighborhood, and keep the kids going to the same school
06:49 <GodTodd> i'm tempted to see what reliant has to offer since txu is pushing 400$ in the summer now
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> as much as I'd hate to uproot the kids, this is ridiculous.  We're being strangled in the summer, that can't be good for them!
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> So I say we should just move into an ACC district and lower our tuition at the same time, and get the lower electric bill
06:50 <GodTodd> sounds like a plan
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> if we only break even, I mean, my wife already found a $1k/month house, but it was 4 bedroom, 2 bath, nearly twice the size of this house
06:50 <GodTodd> and kids are far more resiliant than adults tend to think
06:51 <GodTodd> resilient
06:51 <GodTodd> *
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> and they'll understand, if the house is better and so forth
06:51 <GodTodd> definitely
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> if they get benefits for the move that they can see with their own eyes, they're cool with it
06:51 <GodTodd> the boys share a room now?
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> getting there
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> their toys go in there, and they both have to go there when they're in trouble :)  (Go to *your* room!)
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> and the youngest is going into that dresser, and his bed is in there.  HOwever....  :)
06:52 <GodTodd> cuz that would sell them....you get your own room ;)
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> he falls asleep wherever he wants, so sometimes it's his bed, sometimes it's the couch....
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> and sometimes he wakes up and wants mommy, and sometimes he just wants a hug and then goes back to his bed
06:53 <GodTodd> we're getting close to the shared room thing...we have a bedroom upstairs but karen doesn't think it's wise to put kids up there until they know and can demonstrate how to use the fire escape ladder
06:56 <Lucifer_arma>  “What happened to the concept of dropping your base price to everyone,” Fraser asked of Wilder’s response. Fraser mentioned news reports showing that TXU announced a $1 billion profit for the third quarter of 2006.
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.easttexasreview.com/story.htm?StoryID=4038
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm the one who disables the fire alarms in our houses, heh
06:58 <GodTodd> yeah...they also got him to admit that the "price to beat" has never gone down, only up :/
06:59 <GodTodd> damn deregulation
06:59 <GodTodd> heh
06:59 <Lucifer_arma>  Lawmakers went so far as to suggest that prices will remain reasonable while the Legislature is in session but will be raised the day the session ends. This level of cynicism is usually reserved for the Capitol press corps, not committee chairmen in public hearings.
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's today, even
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> not some article I dug up from years ago :)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> man am I getting happy I voted for Chris Bell
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_318182907.html <--- last week sometime
07:04 <GodTodd> yeah...i heard about that
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> it probably goes deeper
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> other articles I'm reading.  grrrrr
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> full deregulation is supposed to hit in january, maybe we can switch to pedernales then?  :)
07:07 <GodTodd> full deregulation how?
07:08 <GodTodd> that first article only says that's when the price to beat expires
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> apparently the arrangement is that all the existing electric companies are supposed to spin-off two companies
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> er, spin-off 2 parts. The first part, the part that owns the wires, are all supposed to join together as a public service (like telephone wires)
07:09 <GodTodd> right
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> the second part is the power provider, and that's what we're supposed to be able to switch
07:09 <GodTodd> right
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> so I imagine they've been having companies splitting off piece by piece, and January is when they are all expected to be finished doing so?
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> you know, statewide
07:10 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's how I'm reading it, anyway
07:10 <GodTodd> dunno...i'd have to read on it more to know for sure
07:10 <Lucifer_arma>  Without warning, TXU shut off our electricity on the hottest day of the summer. My bills were always paid. Dealing with their automatons, I was finally able to extract a reason: "tampering." I had no choice but to give in to extortion, costing hundreds of dollars to open a new account.
07:12 <GodTodd> man....
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.pec.coop/Locations/ServiceMap.aspx
07:16 <GodTodd> looks like we'd save about .02/kwh
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> find the dot that says Round Rock, go left from there to the dot that says Cedar Park
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> we should be located right about on the border between the two :(
07:23 <GodTodd> erg....maybe i'll talk to karen about Dynowatt
07:23 <GodTodd> 13.3/kwh with no contract
07:24 <GodTodd> i'd have to look at our last bill to see how many kwhs we use to see if it's worth it
07:26 <GodTodd> http://www.electricitytexas.com/index.html?mrc=p_ET_GelectricityGen2&s_kwcid=texas%20electric%20companies|481731555
07:42 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma could you  check to see if lobster cage shows up on your master server list, i've been getting questions about it.
07:43 <DrJoeTron> and since it almost never shows up on the list for me
07:43 <GodTodd> it's cuz it's mad at you, joe
07:43 <DrJoeTron> it shouldnt be
07:43 <GodTodd> it is
07:44 <DrJoeTron> why
07:44 <GodTodd> dunno....is it female?
07:54 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt have a gender
07:54 <DrJoeTron> its a crappy dell
07:55 <GodTodd> so, it's neuter?
07:55 <GodTodd> that could be why then
07:55 <GodTodd> chop off my balls and i won't talk to you either ;)
07:55 <DrJoeTron> :/
07:55 <DrJoeTron> bah stupid test tomarrow
07:56 <GodTodd> tom or row?
07:56 <DrJoeTron> nope
07:56 <GodTodd> then there's plenty of time :P
07:56 <DrJoeTron> i have to do good on this one
07:56 <GodTodd> what class?
07:57 <DrJoeTron> geography
07:57 <GodTodd> hopefully not english ;)
07:57 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:57 <GodTodd> land is green
07:57 <GodTodd> water is blue
07:57 <GodTodd> :/
07:57 <DrJoeTron> im amazing in my english class
07:57 <DrJoeTron> more like
07:57 <DrJoeTron> a cone shaped desert depositional feature at the mouth of a canyon is termed a(n)
07:58 <DrJoeTron> a. wadi
07:58 <DrJoeTron> b. arroyo
07:58 <DrJoeTron> c. playa
07:58 <DrJoeTron> d. alluvial fan
07:59 <DrJoeTron> which one!?
08:00 <GodTodd> i would say arroyo
08:00 <GodTodd> cuz i've heard that one alot :)
08:00 <DrJoeTron> alluvial fan :d
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> arroyo = dried creek bed
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> playa is a dried lakebed, iirc
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> wadi is part of a greeting, as in "wadi udo?"
08:01 <GodTodd> i never said it was right :P
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> or "wadi want?"
08:01 <DrJoeTron> see i know my geography
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> so by process of elimination, it has to be alluvial fan :)
08:01 <GodTodd> a wadi is an arroyo
08:02 <GodTodd> errr a *big* arroyo
08:02  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it's supposed to be "geology"
08:02 <DrJoeTron> but the way the questions on the tests are a bit loopy
08:02 <DrJoeTron> nope
08:02 <DrJoeTron> thats the study of rocks
08:02 <DrJoeTron> geography is landscapre :)
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> #dict geology
08:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, devils, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: geology n : a science that deals with the history of the earth as recorded in rocks; gcide: Geology \Ge*ol"o*gy\, n.; pl. {Geologies}. [Gr. ge`a, gh^, the earth + -logy: cf. F. g['e]ologie.] [1913 Webster] 1. The science which treats: (a) Of the structure and mineral constitution of the globe; structural geology. (b) Of its history as regards (23 more messages)
08:03 <GodTodd> #dict geography
08:03 <armabot> GodTodd: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: geography n : study of the earth's surface; includes people's responses to topography and climate and soil and vegetation [syn: {geographics}]; moby-thes: 53 Moby Thesaurus words for "geography": Earth, Gaea, Ge, Tellus, Terra, biosphere, cartography, chorography, cosmical geology, dynamic geology, geodesy, geodetic satellite, geodetics, geodynamics, geognosy, (5 more messages)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> geologists study erosion and stuff too
08:03 <DrJoeTron> yeah
08:03 <DrJoeTron> thats in here
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> which alluvial fan and all that other crap fall into...
08:03 <GodTodd> heh...the only geography i ever studied was "this is here and that is there"
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> "wadi" is a hilltop created by mexican fart
08:03 <DrJoeTron> arid landscapes
08:03 <DrJoeTron> deserts
08:04  * Lucifer_arma notes that he and GodTodd (hi there!) both came from deserts :)
08:04 <DrJoeTron> pretty much from a dried up river bed by the mouth
08:04 <DrJoeTron> where all of the sediment is deposited
08:04 <GodTodd> yeah...i had to go to the zoo to feel "at home" in omaha
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> you mean like a dried up delta?
08:04 <GodTodd> they have a desert dome
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> no such luck in Seattle, nothing but rain and really large depressed antisocial people
08:05 <DrJoeTron> horsts and grabens are found in the...
08:05 <GodTodd> A wadi (Arabic: وادي‎ wādī) is a dry riverbed that contains water only during times of heavy rain. Compare arroyo (creek).
08:05 <DrJoeTron> a.basin and range
08:05 <DrJoeTron> b.dry prarie region
08:05  * Lucifer_arma hopes they improve DrJoeTron (hi there!) 's typing skills in this english class of his
08:05 <DrJoeTron> c. sahara
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> #dict horst
08:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn: horst n : a ridge of the earth's crust that has been forced upward between two faults and so is higher than the surrounding land
08:06 <DrJoeTron> d appalachian mountains
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> #dict graben
08:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No definition for "graben" could be found.
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> d
08:06 <DrJoeTron> hey, i have an A in english.
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> D I SAY!
08:07 <GodTodd> sahara
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> I SAY D!
08:07 <DrJoeTron> WRONG
08:07 <DrJoeTron> A
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> #google graben
08:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.28 seconds: Graben - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graben>; Oilfield Glossary: Term ' graben ': <http://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Display.cfm?Term=graben>; Graben | Martian Soil: <http://www.martiansoil.com/archives/006374.php>; PHOTO GALLERIES: <http://www.earth.rochester.edu/garzione/photogal.html>; McGraw-Hill AccessScience: Graben: (2 more messages)
08:07 <DrJoeTron> true or false
08:08 <GodTodd> false
08:08 <DrJoeTron> the colorado river is an exotic stream.
08:08 <GodTodd> false
08:08 <GodTodd> false
08:08 <GodTodd> false
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> true
08:08 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma wins
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> it's really weird that there are 2 colorado rivers in the US
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> I think that makes it exotic :)
08:08 <DrJoeTron> sort of
08:08 <GodTodd> oh...i thought he said toxic
08:08 <GodTodd> ;)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> same thing.  :)  One of the colorado rivers goes through Austin ;P
08:09  * GodTodd is near the red river.
08:09 <GodTodd> i should part it sometime
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> isn't that a wadi?
08:09 <DrJoeTron> its because it gains water on its way to its discharge area
08:09 <GodTodd> like a woman?
08:09 <GodTodd> :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> which one?  One of them gets used up before it reaches the ocean...
08:10 <DrJoeTron> if it lost water it would bea dentritic river
08:10  * Lucifer_arma reminds DrJoeTron (hi there!) that there are 2 colorado rivers
08:10 <DrJoeTron> fuck if iknow
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> the one that goes through the Grand Canyon is used up before it reaches mexico, which is a matter of serious political tension between the US and Mexico
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> the one that goes through Austin gains a fair amount of THC before discharging itself into the Gulf of Mexico :)
08:11 <DrJoeTron> haha
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> you know how mexico has the pinky finger over under California?
08:12 <GodTodd> baja california
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> the colorado river is supposed to let out between that pinky finger and the main body, but it's mostly just marshland now
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> because Arizona and southern california use so much of the water up :)
08:12 <GodTodd> they have to
08:12 <GodTodd> it's dry there
08:13 <GodTodd> fuck mexico
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, just imagine how many mexicans would be breaking down the fences if they didn't?
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's just good immigration policy, that's all
08:13 <GodTodd> hey...it just takes away one more river for them to come over on
08:13 <DrJoeTron> i'm boned :/
08:13 <GodTodd> by whom?
08:13 <DrJoeTron> this class
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> #dict boned
08:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn and gcide responded: wn: boned adj 1: having had the bones removed; "a boneless rib roast"; "a boned (or deboned) fish" [syn: {deboned}] 2: having bones as specified; "his lanky long-boned body"; gcide: Boned \Boned\ (b[=o]nd), a. 1. Having (such) bones; -- used in composition; as, big-boned; strong-boned. [1913 Webster] No big-boned men framed of the Cyclops' size. --Shak. [1913 Webster] 2. (2 more messages)
08:14 <GodTodd> well...it's a shitty class :)
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> wow, they pulled your bones out in class?
08:14 <DrJoeTron> i like the teacher
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> that really sucks joe.  I'll send you a christmas card
08:14 <DrJoeTron> but he is a bad teacher
08:14 <GodTodd> hit on the teacher for an a
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, bone him right back!
08:14 <DrJoeTron> don't put your family in the card
08:14 <DrJoeTron> picture i mean
08:15 <GodTodd> yeah...no pictures...just the family
08:15 <GodTodd> :)
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> oh, you want a friendly card, I see
08:15 <DrJoeTron> the teacher is a 60 year old crazy guy
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> can I put a picture of my wee-wee in there?
08:15 <DrJoeTron> he loves me
08:15 <DrJoeTron> so mabe he can bend some things for me
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> the real question is: does he love the PMRC?
08:15 <GodTodd> put a picture of your dick and sign it "now you're really boned"
08:15 <GodTodd> :)
08:16 <DrJoeTron> #cyborg pmrc
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you said you had an A, what do you need form him?
08:16 <armabot> DrJoeTron: P.M.R.C.: Positronic Mechanical Repair Construct
08:16 <DrJoeTron> this is geography
08:16 <DrJoeTron> i have an a in english
08:16 <GodTodd> no..he has an a in english
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhhhhhhhh
08:16  * Lucifer_arma was wondering why he was studying geography in an english class
08:16 <GodTodd> i don't need to take no more stinkin' english cuz i already speak and speel it gooder
08:16 <DrJoeTron> yeah our school is under budget
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm dropping my physics class
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> like a ton of bricks!
08:17 <DrJoeTron> so we instead are using 13 year old science text books for literature in english
08:17 <DrJoeTron> comparing and contrasting 
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> themes
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> hmm
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> next semester I'm learning how to swordfight!
08:17 <DrJoeTron> i cant drop my class
08:17 <DrJoeTron> too late :/
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you should consider Austin Community College?  :)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> (last drop day is Nov 27)
08:18 <DrJoeTron> nov 11th here
08:18 <GodTodd> yeah...for better or for worse i'm stuck with my classes
08:18 <GodTodd> 11/17 here
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, today's my birthday
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> or yesterday, or something like that
08:18 <DrJoeTron> happy birthday :)
08:18 <DrJoeTron> mine was on saturday
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> you said :)
08:19 <GodTodd> hrmmm...i always thought it was 11/22
08:19 <GodTodd> :/
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> HAPPY BIRTHDAY DrJoeTron (hi there!) !
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's the 20th :)
08:19 <DrJoeTron> HAPPY BIRTHDAY Lucifer_arma 
08:19 <GodTodd> happy birthday Lucifer_arma  anyway :)
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, I thought you said your birthday was the saturday after thanksgiving?
08:19 <GodTodd> mine was like 5.5 months ago
08:19 <GodTodd> :)
08:19 <GodTodd> or 6.5
08:19 <GodTodd> something like that
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's May something, isn't it?
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> ........5th?
08:19 <GodTodd> yeah
08:19 <GodTodd> 6th
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> ah, not bad!
08:20 <GodTodd> you were closer :/
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> I got within 1 day :)
08:20 <GodTodd> i was within 2 :P
08:20 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma can you see if my server shows up on your master server list
08:20 <GodTodd> no
08:20 <GodTodd> he can't
08:20 <GodTodd> :)
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> mp
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> er
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> no
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> :(
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> game crashed when I started it
08:21  * GodTodd dances the 'i was right' dance.
08:21  * DrJoeTron joe cries the 'GodTodd was right' cry.
08:22  * GodTodd shudders in ecstasy.
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> shit, damn dwh is there
08:22 <DrJoeTron> what?
08:22 <DrJoeTron> you're kidding me
08:24 <GodTodd> geography, joe
08:24 <GodTodd> *stern look*
08:25 <DrJoeTron> :(
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> wow, this thiing's behaving weirdly
08:25 <GodTodd> you're one of them young pups, aren't you joe?
08:26 <DrJoeTron> nah
08:26 <DrJoeTron> i was torrenting
08:26 <DrJoeTron> i forgot to shut it off
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> no, I've got weird flickering and the wall textures disappeared
08:26 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd yeah i guess
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I think I need to to a little svn update and hope it goes away
08:26 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: blame luke
08:26 <DrJoeTron> still cant legally drink
08:26 <GodTodd> bah
08:27 <DrJoeTron> 20 ftl :/
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> I could do that.  otoh, it could just be fallback from switching distributions, ie. I haven't rebuilt th game since then
08:27 <GodTodd> so? blame luke anyway
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> so you haven't experienced the magical moment of alcoholic truth?  When the Cosmic Oneness bestows you with the knowledge of how to make drinks and the responsibility to drink them responsibly?
08:28 <GodTodd> man...the other day i scrolled through chat in here and saw everybody talking about age or something....i had to walk away from the computer i felt so goddamned old :/
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:28 <DrJoeTron> nah
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> then I showed up and you felt better, right?  ;)
08:28 <GodTodd> nah
08:28 <GodTodd> you were gone that day :(
08:28 <DrJoeTron> i dont actually do anything
08:28 <DrJoeTron> im very friggin boring
08:29 <GodTodd> heh...i spent my 21st birthday in front of a computer with a fifth of jack
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> I did nearly the same thing, I got stood up.  :/
08:29 <DrJoeTron> :/
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> coworker promised to take me out drinking and shit and then on the day, he was nowhere to be found
08:30 <GodTodd> i didn't....my computer was right where she said she'd be ;)
08:30 <DrJoeTron> sounds like 90% of my friends
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> went to another guy's house and drank his beer for awhile, then his wife convinced him to take me to the liquor store
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> the next day my 15 year old girlfriend came over and I told her she was right, I shoulda spent the evening with her instead.
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> then we screwed for hours.  It was awesome.
08:31 <GodTodd> and that is when you learned the age old truth....the woman is always right ;)
08:31 <GodTodd> heh
08:31 <GodTodd> unless she's an ex
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> indeed.
08:31 <GodTodd> then she's always a bitch
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> nah, she's my wife now
08:31 <GodTodd> unless she's an ex that you end up marrying
08:32 <GodTodd> hrmm
08:32 <GodTodd> heh
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> karen peeking over your shoulder?
08:32 <GodTodd> hell no
08:32 <GodTodd> after 10 she's in bed
08:33 <GodTodd> that's my "alone time" :)
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, my wife dropped all her "let's screw" signals tonight and I didn't bite because I need to study, so I guess I should go do some studying...
08:33 <DrJoeTron> "it's just you and i now, lock of hair"
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> joe, I'd highly recommend taking yourself out for your 21st birthday.  :)  Had I to do it over again, that's exactly what I'd do.
08:34  * GodTodd drops let's screw signals.
08:34  * Lucifer_arma doesn't bite.
08:34  * DrJoeTron nibbles
08:34 <GodTodd> you don't? what good are you then?
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> gotta study!
08:34 <DrJoeTron> i do too
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> why aren't you guys studying?
08:34 <GodTodd> bah
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> nutjobs
08:34 <DrJoeTron> because GodTodd keeps dropping let's screw signals
08:35 <GodTodd> c++ tomarrow(for joe) and then no class til after turkey day
08:35 <DrJoeTron>  D: fucker
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> he spells it "tommarow"
08:35 <DrJoeTron> i have that test and then a field trip
08:35 <GodTodd> not tonight he didn't
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> never had Teleweit for a class, apparently
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> or was it Teweleit?
08:35 <GodTodd> #last --from DrJoeTron --with tomarrow
08:35 <armabot> GodTodd: [07:59:37] <DrJoeTron> bah stupid test tomarrow
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, he's almost got it right
08:36 <DrJoeTron> the next day i have english, math, and steel band.
08:36 <GodTodd> i never had teweleit, no
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> now if we can just convince him there aren't any a's in the word
08:36 <DrJoeTron> there aught to be
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> ought not
08:36 <DrJoeTron> haha
08:36 <GodTodd> aught six
08:36 <GodTodd> :P
08:37 <DrJoeTron> at least i get to hit on this cute girl on wednesday
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> so, if Al Gore were to win the presidency, would we see another rise of the PMRC?
08:37 <GodTodd> probably
08:38 <GodTodd> every first lady has their pet cause
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> so we might actually get to see Megadeth perform Hook in Mouth live again?!?
08:38 <GodTodd> hahaha
08:38  * Lucifer_arma notes he saw Anthrax perform Startin' up a Posse live ;)
08:38 <GodTodd> love the posse song
08:38 <GodTodd> shit fuck satan death sex drugs rape
08:39  * DrJoeTron notes he saw primus perform southbound pachyderm live ;)
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> that about Tipper Gore?
08:39 <DrJoeTron> no :/
08:39 <DrJoeTron> it was a short concert :(
08:39 <GodTodd> she's a short woman
08:39 <DrJoeTron> i was spoiled by the last one i went to
08:39 <DrJoeTron> which was like 3 hours
08:40 <GodTodd> i saw alice cooper and the scorpions once
08:40 <DrJoeTron> aw god
08:40 <DrJoeTron> the scorpions
08:40 <GodTodd> i went for alice
08:40 <GodTodd> :P
08:40 <DrJoeTron> ok ;p
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> the funny thing is that after she put together her filthy fifteen list, everybody tried to one-up each other to outdo any of the songs on that list
08:41 <GodTodd> the scarpians were the backup band
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> man, the scorpions put me to sleep
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> wait, they played behind alice cooper?
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> or they opened?
08:41  * GodTodd is na langer gaing ta use a's in his typing.
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> yep, he's a scot after all
08:42 <GodTodd> they middled.
08:42 <GodTodd> some shitty local band opened...then the scorpions...then alice
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> GadTadd
08:42 <GodTodd> he headlined
08:42 <GodTodd> i'm not a fuckin' scot :P
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> no, you're a scat
08:43 <GodTodd> i'm mostly irish, danish and german :P
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> mmmm, danish taste good
08:43 <GodTodd> i sure do *wink*
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> irish...notsogood
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> never eaten a german
08:43 <DrJoeTron> he's the scatmon!
08:44 <GodTodd> i like to claim the danish because of king diamond 
08:44 <DrJoeTron> i taste good
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'd claim swiss if I could just because of this cute little redhead girl in my history 2 class
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm going ot forever have a fascination with the swiss
08:44 <DrJoeTron> i'm german and italian :/ my genetics are horrible because of it
08:44 <GodTodd> swiss chicks are cool....lots of holes
08:45 <GodTodd> daniel boone is a great ^ nth uncle of mine
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> the only lineage I ever want to claim is the stuff my dad and his dad have tried to bury
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> "we're americans now, no need to know any of that other junk"
08:46 <GodTodd> gangsters? or transvestites?
08:46 <DrJoeTron> or thuggin trannies yo?
08:47 <GodTodd> with you italians you never know ;)
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> but dad, I"m either a disenfranchised english peasant (from a family that got really rich but remained peasants), or I'm a fucking Mormon God!
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> and you'd rather I know *that* and not my italian heritage?!?
08:47 <DrJoeTron> time to eat some damn oranges
08:47 <GodTodd> i have karen researching my line
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> (disenfranchised means if there's any money in the english branch of the family, I'm nowhere near the inheritance tree, even though it was my great-grandfther that made it)
08:47 <GodTodd> i delegated it
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> my wife and I are considering just changing our names and starting a completely new family :)
08:48 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: cuz oranges have magical geography knowing powers?
08:49 <DrJoeTron> that and the peal reminds me of a kid in my class who didnt take care of his zits :p
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> *peel
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> reminds you of me?
08:49  * Lucifer_arma never bothered with his zits.  Why should he?
08:49 <GodTodd> why take care of them...then they'll never leave
08:50 <DrJoeTron> i took care of mine
08:50  * GodTodd never had many zits.
08:50 <GodTodd> did i miss out?
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> I still get them
08:50 <DrJoeTron> though parts of my face turned into this orang peel
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's that oily skin of mine
08:50 <GodTodd> maybe i'll have more when i hit puberty
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> I get them all over too.  I've even had them on my dick (no, they weren't sores!)
08:51 <DrJoeTron> 12th grade my face exploded
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> I've had them inside my ear!  what a pain to pop when they're in there
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> inside my nose
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> man
08:51  * GodTodd pictures Lucifer_arma explaining the weird spots on his dick to his wife.
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> and through it all, I've somehow managed to accumulate few scars on my face and elsewhere
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> and the ones I do have match scars from various other pursuits anyway :)
08:52 <DrJoeTron> human torch fiasco's?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> burns are on my legs
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> from motorcycle exhaust :)
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> people turn their heads and try not to puke when I wear shorts, my right knee is sooo awesome :)
08:54  * Lucifer_arma is sometimes amazed he's made it this far relatively unscathed.  Seems like he should have more scars.  Must be that oily skin of his!
08:54 <GodTodd> people just turn their heads and try not to puke when i'm around in general
08:54 <DrJoeTron> oh and my face breaks out whenever i shave
08:54 <GodTodd> so don't shave
08:55 <DrJoeTron> it only lasts a day
08:55 <DrJoeTron> if you saw me in person
08:55 <GodTodd> bah
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> shaving is overrated.  I wish I'd been able to avoid being indoctrinated into shaving
08:55 <DrJoeTron> you'd think i was the highest man alive
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> highest?  red eyes?
08:55 <DrJoeTron> yeah
08:55 <DrJoeTron> dark circles
08:55 <DrJoeTron> horrible constitution
08:56 <DrJoeTron> i have really bad allergies
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, get more sleep?
08:56 <DrJoeTron> i get plenty
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, I have a really bad need for a cigarette
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> then quit shooting heroin!
08:56 <GodTodd> yeah...smoke it
08:56 <DrJoeTron> fuck you!  don't talk about my sweet cnady
08:56 <GodTodd> that's the heroin spelling
08:57 <GodTodd> and you know it
08:57 <DrJoeTron> ...guys...
08:57 <DrJoeTron> I'm...I'm in real pain here
08:57 <GodTodd> use different poke holes every day then
08:57 <GodTodd> geez gotta walk you through everything
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> I prefer to mix it with my astroglide
08:58 <DrJoeTron> terpintine 
08:59 <GodTodd> see..you're lying...if you had turpentine there you'd spell it correctly
08:59 <GodTodd> :P
08:59 <DrJoeTron> dood
08:59 <DrJoeTron> i told u i was hardcore
09:00 <GodTodd> admit it...the fskin shiite pwned j00 azz
09:01 <DrJoeTron> orange #2 time
09:01 <GodTodd> that's where you hide your heroin?
09:01 <GodTodd> doesn't the citric acid fuck it up?
09:01 <DrJoeTron> i hide it in my eye lids
09:02 <GodTodd> so what are the oranges for?
09:03 <DrJoeTron> devouring
09:03 <GodTodd> you get the munchies for...oranges?
09:03 <GodTodd> man you *are* boring
09:03 <GodTodd> :)
09:03 <DrJoeTron> i am
09:03 <DrJoeTron> ive got a hard enough time convincing people im not high
09:04 <GodTodd> heh
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> I used to get the munchies for oranges and bananas
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> the girl at the 7-11 used to say I didn't look high because of what I bought
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd go off giggling
09:05 <GodTodd> heh
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> poor girl
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> she died herself black, though, so one of us was definitely high
09:05 <GodTodd> died or dyed?
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> man, they got this guy at that 7-11 whose bottom jaw just wouldn't stop moving
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> kinda like Michael whatshisface in Police Academy doing the japanese dialog
09:06 <DrJoeTron> someone crashed their car into our 7-11
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> when I first saw him, with my brother, we were both stoned off our nutsacks
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> it was really weird
09:06 <GodTodd> they just crash into houses and daycares around here
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> crashed their car into it?
09:06 <DrJoeTron> yup
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> someone hit a taco bell a block from that apartment, it was awesome :)
09:07 <DrJoeTron> haha
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> did y'all see about that bus full of schoolkids that drove off an overpass?
09:08 <DrJoeTron> nope
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/112106/D8LH8EQ80.shtml&cid=1111375524&ei=3LBiRbL3H77maJuF_dcG
09:11 <DrJoeTron> thats not nearly as horrible as that school bus that was smased by a train
09:11 <DrJoeTron> like 7 years ago
09:12 <DrJoeTron> its on the discovery channel and what not nowadays
09:12 <DrJoeTron> that happened by me 
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> why did you do it, joe?
09:24 <DrJoeTron> they took my money
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> how the fuck do they get....
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> wait
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> nvm
09:26 <DrJoeTron> :/
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> I need headphones with a longer cable
09:34 <DrJoeTron> alright
09:35 <DrJoeTron> to bed i go
09:35 <DrJoeTron> night
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11:36 <Lucifer_arma> why can't people fucking type?
11:36 <Lucifer_arma> How hard is it to let freedb.org do the typing for you?
11:36 <Lucifer_arma> Why do mp3 tags have to have the world's worst typing in them?
11:36 <Lucifer_arma> Do they realize how much time people *waste* fixing their screwups?
11:54 <Lucifer_arma> I think people invent new names for musical genres just so they don't feel like they have no taste for variety in music.
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15:34 <Compn> Lucifer_arma : why not use musicbrainz or something to auto fix your tags?
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17:31 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed two small issues pointed out by pavelo@http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=10651:
17:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  * use $AUTOMAKE
17:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  * config.h was renamed to aa_config.h
17:38 <luke-jr_work> heh
17:39 <[dlh]> LOL! indeed
17:42 <wrtlprnft> o_O
17:46 <luke-jr_work> O.o
17:47 <luke-jr_work> ftr, I only said "heh", not "LOL!"
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18:03 <wrtlprnft> sry [dlh] 
18:03 <[dlh]> hmm?
18:03 <wrtlprnft> almost teamkilled you
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19:16 <DrJoeTron> yay quark xpress installed with no spyware attacged
19:16 <DrJoeTron> anyone wanna start an armagetron zine? :P
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21:08 <Lucifer_arma> Compn: musicbrainz only recognizes about half the songs I've sent it and it takes longer to scan the song than it does for me to just type what I know in
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> a lot of this music I'm organizing is stuff I've been listening to for years and years...
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> and, of course, I only want "Metal".  Not "Speed/Thrash Metal, Industrial Metal, Metalcore, etc."
21:17 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, yeah, but musicbrainz can run in the bg
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> it's useful for song names, musician names, and album names.  But I really don't want "Rock, Rock/Pop, Rock and Roll, Rock & Roll" etc in my genre list
21:21 <luke-jr_work> sed
21:21 <luke-jr_work> :)
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21:54 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clear. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 5 except plus 1 along the fundy coast.; Wednesday - Sunny. High plus 4. Wednesday night..clear. Increasing cloudiness near midnight. Wind becoming east 20 km/h (1 more message)
21:56 <Vanhayes> #more
21:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: overnight. Low minus 1.; Thursday - Sunny. High 11.;
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: exactly the problem.  :)  There's so goddamned many genres that are useless
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> amarok lets you edit tags on many tracks at once, so it's easy to fix.  It's not like I have to do every track one at a time or anything.
22:05 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, heh
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22:06 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, come on!  When I want to hear metal, I want to hear King Diamond, Megadeth, Anthrax, etc.  To do that I'd have to pick "Black Metal" "Death Metal", "Grindcore", "Thrashcore", "Thrash Metal", and "Pop/Rock"
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> but when I want to hear metal, I don't want to hear the Pretenders, Bon Jovi, Poison, etc (all Pop/Rock)
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22:10 <GodTodd> bon jovi's not metal?
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22:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.greenmountain.com/  <-- GodTodd (hi there!) :)
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> I think if we're going to be stuck with these electric rates, I'd rather give them to these people
22:25 <GodTodd> yeah...i thought about them too
22:25 <GodTodd> they're 100% renewable, right?
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> yep
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> wind, solar, hydro, etc.
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> no coal, no nukes :)
22:27 <GodTodd> all that while txu is looking to build more coal plants ;)
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22:31 <luke-jr_work> need more nuclear plants
22:32 <GodTodd> to make warheads to blow up fundies?
22:32 <luke-jr_work> no
22:32 <luke-jr_work> for electricity
22:32 <GodTodd> i like my idea better
22:32 <luke-jr_work> clean *and* efficient
22:33 <luke-jr_work> you want to blow up SD and I? :(
22:34 <GodTodd> nah...cuz i don't wish more nuclear plants...and they would be making the warheads ;)
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