Log from 2006-11-07:
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00:07 <guru3> i hope that last post was over stepping my bounds :/
00:07 <luke-jr_work> ??
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> not at all. Overstepping your bounds would have been deleting the content of his post, putting the content of your post in there in italics, and then adding "S0 STFU N00B1E B00B1E"
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00:18 <luke-jr_work> what post?
00:19 <guru3> on the forums
00:24 <luke-jr_work> there's lots of sub-forums
00:24 <luke-jr_work> I only watch one
00:37 <spidey> what forums do you guys use?
00:37 <spidey> i want subforums but phpbb2 doesn't have the ability =/
00:38 <luke-jr_work> phpbb2
00:38 <luke-jr_work> well
00:38 <luke-jr_work> phpbb2-arma ;)
00:38 <spidey> ?
00:38 <spidey> lol
00:38 <luke-jr_work> it's all patched up and stuff
00:38 <spidey> ah
00:38 <luke-jr_work> phpbb3 has subforums, but no guarantee you won't lose data
00:38 <spidey> ?
00:39 <luke-jr_work> it's still highly beta
00:39 <spidey> oh
00:39 <luke-jr_work> I have 2 anti-spam and 1 Jabber patches for phpbb2 tho ;p
00:39 <luke-jr_work> if you want those
00:40 <spidey> eh
00:40 <spidey> don't use jabber
00:40 <luke-jr_work> irrelevant
00:40 <spidey> spam isn't a problem yet
00:40 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:40 <luke-jr_work> you're joking
00:40 <spidey> if it is i'll just rangeban in the firewall
00:40 <spidey> nope
00:40 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:40 <spidey> 56 members 0 spam
00:40 <spidey> =p
00:40 <luke-jr_work> there's tons of botnets spamming phpbb2
00:41 <spidey> not FA
00:41 <spidey> not yet...
00:41 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:43 <spidey> ?
00:43 <spidey> seriously
00:43 <spidey> 0 spam so far =p
00:43 <spidey> maybe because in order to even see the threads you have to register, and do the AUTH code
00:43 <spidey> and i think verify email
00:43 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:43 <luke-jr_work> that last one will do it
00:44 <luke-jr_work> one of my patches plays wrtlprnft's game w/ the auth code
00:44 <spidey> game?
00:44 <luke-jr_work> there's 5 input boxes to put the code in
00:44 <luke-jr_work> but only one is real
00:45 <luke-jr_work> the others are hidden via CSS
00:45 <spidey> o.o
00:45 <luke-jr_work> bots don't use CSS
00:45 <spidey> yet
00:45 <luke-jr_work> yet
00:45 <luke-jr_work> if they do, "enter the code in the box that is highlighted in green/red/blue/purple/yellow"
00:45 <luke-jr_work> :p
00:45 <spidey> if everyone starts doing that i'm sure someone will make a bot that does
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00:53 <spidey> bout time =p
00:53 <spidey> armabot's still on another server o.O
00:53 <spidey> nvm =p
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01:08 <Your_mom_arma> im with tank, can we make people forget about bugfarm? it wasnt even that good of a server
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> dood turn the tornament server into bugfarm lawl
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> gtfo of my forums
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> the first one was rain and the second one was tank
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> er alex
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01:26 <ghableska> hello
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> hi
01:43 <spidey> hey
01:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr_
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02:07 <ghableska> hahaha
02:07 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6122448.stm
02:08 <Commn> lol
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02:14 <Lucifer_arma> forgive my stupidity, but what the fuck is gtfo?
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> get the f out
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> get the funk out?
02:15 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, need help =(
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't like what you see here, get the funk out
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> afk!
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab!
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> i guess you could interpert it that way
02:15 <spidey> !!!!
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> make it quick, I do need to get up and do dinner
02:16 <spidey> i found my mepis cd, put my old cd -r/w drive in this other box
02:16 <spidey> booted up, it's commandline, right so i got the sshd started because that monitor is to small
02:16 <spidey> the router shows the box
02:16 <spidey> ifconfig shows 2.3 ip
02:16 <spidey> but i can't connect after i started the sshd
02:17 <spidey> i get a network error
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> does it respond to pings?
02:17 <spidey> no
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> router says it's connected?
02:17 <spidey> yup
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> restard the dhcp service anyway on that box
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> can you ping the router from that box?
02:17 <spidey> sec
02:18 <spidey> yes, 0.8ms
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> can you ping the router from the client box you're trying to connect with? Presumably that's the one you're talking to me from right now...
02:19 <spidey> yea
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> firewall :)
02:20 <spidey> live cd's have firewalls?
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> and sadly I have no idea what firewall mepis uses
02:20 <spidey> o.O
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> ls /etc/init.d/ and look for the one that looks like a firewall
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> then do /etc/init.d/FIREWALL stop
02:20 <spidey> it uses gaurddog if it's started
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> where FIREWALL is replaced with the name of the service you think is the firewall :)
02:20 <spidey> k
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go grab a smoke, if you can't discover the firewall, you might google mepis firewall
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if it can ping the router, but you can't ping it from the router, that indicates firewall to me
02:23 <spidey> firewall isn't running...i don't think
02:24 <spidey> ahah
02:25 <spidey> if i spelt guarddog instead of gaurddog it might help
02:25 <spidey> Reply from 192.168.2.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
02:26 <spidey> model name : Pentium II (Deschutes)
02:26 <spidey> cpu MHz : 300.712
02:26 <spidey> cache size : 512 KB
02:26 <spidey> o.O
02:30 <guru3> off to bed
02:30 <guru3> good night
02:30 <spidey> night
02:31 <ghableska> cya
02:32 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 52.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Wind: S at 4 mph (6 km/h).
02:33 <spidey> #cnn 38256
02:33 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 54.0°F. Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 88%. Wind: ENE at 5 mph (8 km/h).
02:33 <spidey> #weather 38256
02:33 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 53.8°F (7:33 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa.
02:34 <spidey> 7:37!!
02:34 <spidey> =p
02:34 <Your_mom_arma> 7 36 oms
02:34 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (7:10 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa.
02:35 <ghableska> 7:10, not fair
02:35 <spidey> eh?
02:35 <spidey> yours is broken
02:35 <luke-jr_> spidey: Lucifer_arma Your_mom_arma
02:35 <Your_mom_arma> pong
02:35 <spidey> luke-jr_, wtf you want
02:35 <spidey> =p
02:35 * ghableska pokes weather
02:35 <luke-jr_> wanna finish that game some time?
02:35 <luke-jr_> maybe in like an hour?
02:35 <Your_mom_arma> sure, van can come play so i dont have to finish off korea
02:35 <spidey> if i'm done installing mepis on this other box maybe
02:36 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: hmm, dunno-- practising, Korea was easily finished off =p
02:36 * Vanhayes is about to get off the computer
02:36 <luke-jr_> ok, back in an hour =p
02:36 <Vanhayes> so count me out on a freeciv game
02:36 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
02:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Clearing overnight. Fog patches. Low minus 4.; Tuesday - Sunny. Increasing cloudiness in the afternoon. Fog patches dissipating early in the morning. Wind becoming (1 more message)
02:36 <ghableska> grr
02:36 <ghableska> wish mine was so detailed
02:36 <Vanhayes> oh ya we had about 5 centimeters of snow today
02:37 <spidey> #weather Paris,Tennessee
02:37 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 53.8°F (7:37 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa.
02:37 <spidey> o.O
02:37 <Your_mom_arma> so like 2 inches
02:37 <Vanhayes> #more
02:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: southwest 30 km/h gusting to 50 in the morning. High 9. Tuesday night..cloudy. 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low plus 5.; Wednesday - Showers. High 10.;
02:37 <ghableska> #weather Des Moines, Iowa
02:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (7:10 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa.
02:37 <Vanhayes> nope 5 centimeters
02:37 <ghableska> ...
02:37 <spidey> #g 40kn/h in mp/h
02:37 <ghableska> #weather West Des Moines, Iowa
02:37 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (7:10 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa.
02:37 <GodTodd> #g 5 cm in in
02:37 <armabot> GodTodd: 5 centimeters = 1.96850394 in
02:37 <spidey> #g 40knh in mph
02:37 <Your_mom_arma> 5 centimeters=2 inches iirc
02:37 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:37 <ghableska> knh?
02:37 <ghableska> :P
02:38 <spidey> #g 40kmh in mph
02:38 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:38 <Vanhayes> um
02:38 <spidey> #g 30 km/h in mp/h
02:38 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: did you get it working?
02:38 <ghableska> haha
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> 1.96 = 2
02:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, yes, i spelled guarddog wrong =p
02:38 <Vanhayes> #g 30 k/h in m/h
02:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:39 <Vanhayes> #g 30 kilometers per hour in miles per hour
02:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: 30 kilometers per hour = 18.6411358 miles per hour
02:39 <GodTodd> #g 30 kph in mph
02:39 <armabot> GodTodd: 30 kph = 18.6411358 mph
02:39 <ghableska> heh
02:39 <spidey> ...
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> damn small linux is my hero, i need to get buisness card size cds and make a couple copies
02:39 <spidey> rolf
02:39 <spidey> rofl
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> um, download their embedded distribution and stick it on a memory stick
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I did, only my laptop won't boot it. So I asked my wife for the 1GB DSL stick
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> *usb flash drive
02:40 <Your_mom_arma> yeah but not all computers can boot from usb
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> mine can, but there's something screwy about how I set it up
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, the embedded distro comes with a qemu that can run it, which you can switch to full-screen and still use it
02:41 <spidey> root@0[proc]# /dev/hdc
02:41 <spidey> -bash: /dev/hdc: Permission denied
02:41 <spidey> o.O
02:41 <DrJoeTr0n> i wanna see USB become more dominant
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> I wanna see DrJoeTr0n become more dominant
02:42 <DrJoeTr0n> I wanna assert my dominance
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> dominate spidey
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> he goes for that S&M stuff
02:42 <ghableska> raging hormones?
02:42 <spidey> s m?
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTr0n: you can get pretty much any computer input/output device in some form of usb
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I was once a teenage boy, spidey hasn't had a thought in the last 2 years that I didn't have :)
02:43 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma yeah but thats not what im quite talking about
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if y'all can wait a couple of hours, I can probably join you for the freeciv game
02:43 <DrJoeTr0n> like store an entire OS on a flash drive and have it just run off of that
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> if not, you should really try to put a human in my place
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> thats already possible?
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTr0n: we have that already
02:44 <DrJoeTr0n> why dont i have this
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's called damn small linux, pay attention
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> #google damn small linux flash drive
02:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.22 seconds: 0.a - Introduction to Damn Small Linux | DSL Talk: <http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/56>; Damn Small Linux - Not! :: View topic - install dsl-n on flash drive: <http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-n/f/viewpost/1443.html>; Damn Small , and Booting from a Flash Drive | Linux Librarian: <http://www.linuxlibrarian.org/node/139>; AltHack.com - How to Run Linux on a USB (2 more messages)
02:44 <DrJoeTr0n> then windows i require
02:44 <DrJoeTr0n> everything runs linux
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> you can do that too
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> then you ask for the irrelevant, and I can't help you
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> #google bartos windowsxp "flashdrive install"
02:45 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Search took 0.08 seconds: free protect download: <http://3d2f.com/tags/protect/>; Billboard PostPlay: General: <http://billboard.blogs.com/billboardpostplay/general/index.html>; Encyclopedia BETA: <http://experts.about.com/e/a/>
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> i dont think that helped
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> but it is possible
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> #google windows flash drive install
02:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.23 seconds: Windows In Your Pocket | Tom's Hardware: <http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/09/windows_in_your_pocket/>; 15 Steps to Install Windows XP on a Flash Drive: <http://www.everythingusb.com/windows_xp.html>; greg hughes - dot - net - Install Windows XP on a USB Flash Drive: <http://www.greghughes.net/rant/InstallWindowsXPOnAUSBFlashDrive.aspx>; digg - 15 Steps to Install (3 more messages)
02:46 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/09/windows_in_your_pocket/ i think this is it
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> ph34r my 1337 g00gl1ng
02:46 <DrJoeTr0n> rofl dwh 2nit
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> damn, this dwh thing is turning me into an aol brat
02:46 <DrJoeTr0n> ?
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> being specific on a google search never works :' (
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> n00b1e b00bie
02:47 <ghableska> heh
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> n(.)(.)b1e b(.)(.)bie
02:47 <ghableska> O_o
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:48 <ghableska> I just see fat black dots
02:48 <ghableska> is that what I'm supposed to see? :P
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> use your imagination
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> you're supposed to see ascii tits
02:48 <ghableska> I know.
02:48 <ghableska> Stupid trillian
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:48 <ghableska> It turns them into obese periods
02:48 * Lucifer_arma would like to see an emoticon for those
02:50 <Your_mom_arma> no comment hehe
02:50 <ghableska> ;)
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> let's test this. Your_mom_arma (prick)
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:50 * Lucifer_arma just added (prick) to his tab completion
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> now, can I have it insert something random?
02:51 <ghableska> yes!
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> or would it be more useful for me to finish cooking dinner?
02:51 <Your_mom_arma> its true well at least sometimes
02:51 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, freeciv in a hour?
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> might be longer, but we'll see
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> you guys don't have to wait for me, just use an /away ai on me or preferably put a human in there
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, if you put a regular ai on me, you're in bad shape. I recovered the dumb ai's civilization and can build shit pretty quickly now.
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the dumb ai might trash what I've done too
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> you could leave me idling. That won't be very pretty, I'd kinda like something to finish off the hobbits, but it's better than nothing.
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> er, better than waiting for me if you're axious to play right now
02:57 <spidey> fuck
02:57 <spidey> fuck it, winxp goes on this box
02:58 <spidey> then i burn a dvd with a ubuntu iso
02:58 <spidey> atleast i know it'll run :|
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03:00 <Vanhayes> #night
03:00 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:01 * Your_mom_arma notes how over priced buisness card cd-r's are
03:01 <Fonkay> business card dc-rs?
03:01 <Fonkay> cd-rs*
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> dc-rs?
03:02 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.proactionmedia.com/prodimages/rect-business-card-sleeve.jpg
03:02 <Fonkay> neato, never heard of them
03:02 <Fonkay> how much are they?
03:02 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, those mini cd-r's?
03:03 <spidey> they're about 1/3 the size of a cd
03:03 <Fonkay> no, they're shaped like business cards
03:03 <spidey> i've got 10 dvd -r's of those
03:03 <spidey> like 1.4gb cd's
03:03 <spidey> o.O
03:03 <Your_mom_arma> from what i just say about $70(american) for 100
03:03 <spidey> Fonkay, shush
03:03 <Your_mom_arma> saw not say
03:04 <spidey> where?
03:04 <Your_mom_arma> froogle
03:04 <Your_mom_arma> random places
03:05 <Fonkay> seems silly considering they're just funny shaped cds
03:06 <Your_mom_arma> pretty much
03:06 <spidey> lol
03:06 <Fonkay> how much more can it cost to manufacture them?
03:06 <spidey> you can't use those on some computers
03:08 * Fonkay watches spidey not get the point
03:08 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:08 <spidey> who said i didn't get the point
03:08 <spidey> besides
03:09 <Fonkay> I did, just not
03:09 <Fonkay> now*
03:09 <spidey> i'm glad you're turning into another luke-jr_ =)
03:09 <ghableska> heh
03:09 <Fonkay> you were luke-II for ever
03:10 <spidey> hardly
03:10 <Fonkay> softly
03:10 <spidey> for one i'm not a christain freak =p
03:10 <Fonkay> neither am I
03:10 <spidey> you're a acception
03:10 <Fonkay> but you are a big headed stubborn little bugger
03:11 <spidey> tis what you think =p
03:11 <Fonkay> viola... Luke II
03:11 <Fonkay> voila?
03:18 <DrJoeTr0n> yay ali g show marathon: D
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I think mortars should ignore city walls
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> FP 1, attack 4, defense 1, MP 1
03:20 <spidey> mortars
03:20 <spidey> ?
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> I think they should require metallurgy and one other tech, so you don't get mortars right when you get cannons, you have to get at least one more tech
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's just a big tube that you stick a charge of gunpowder down, put a grenade on top, and fire it
03:21 <spidey> well yea
03:21 <spidey> but we get mortars?
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> modern mortar charges are less like grenades and more like shells, but the point is you fire them up in a large parabolic arc to get them over obstacles like city walls
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> and the explode on the other side, throwing shrapnel out everywhere
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm working off and on on a ruleset that includes more units, and fleshes out techs a bit
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> the idea is to give more options earlier, particularly after gunpowder but before tanks, and maybe get techs a little more inline with history
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> of course without sacrificing game balance
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd like to expand it into a full nuclear army, and then a robotic army, and then get into more sci-fi types of stuff like plasma cannons, armored infantry, etc.
03:23 <spidey> hm
03:23 <spidey> hey
03:23 <spidey> the next game we play
03:23 <spidey> can i host?
03:24 <spidey> well, not me...but a server i have anyways
03:24 <spidey> wanna use the warserver :D
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> I installed the warserver here myself not too long ago :)
03:24 <spidey> ah
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'd also like a gunpowder-based rocket unit
03:26 <Commn> what? no biological weapons?
03:27 <Commn> i'd like to see where you infect a flock of geese and train them to fly to your enemies water supply :)
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> there's already that, you can use spies to poison cities :)
03:27 <Commn> ah
03:27 <spidey> lol
03:27 <spidey> what about
03:27 * Commn sends geese at spidey
03:27 <spidey> rockets that launch smallpox
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think the engine supports chemical weapons in any useful way
03:28 <spidey> and it's really a pollution square in the same sqaure as the city
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> We could make chemical units, but the effects of chemical units would be something else
03:28 <spidey> and it reduces population 10,000 every 2 turns
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> now wait a minute, we might be able to make a cruise missile that fires off pollution
03:28 <Commn> there was that zombie engine
03:28 <spidey> untill it's cleaned with a engineer
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> you can make a unit drop pollution or nukes
03:28 <Commn> e.g. you put one zombie in a small area and watch people get infected
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> are you talking about freeciv?
03:29 <spidey> how about making bombers hold rockets and nukes
03:29 <spidey> example => real life
03:29 * Commn is bored
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> nukes yes, rockets no :)
03:29 <spidey> they hold rockets
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> I think it would unbalance the game too much if they could carry rockets too
03:29 <spidey> ok, nukes then
03:29 <spidey> =p
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but perfect accuracy isn't to be desired. The modern unit selection is pretty good, but I'd like to add a tier so we can have real WWII units and newer units
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> and a third tier of nuke units before we start reaching the boundary of current military
03:30 <spidey> hey i need freeciv 2.0.8 right?
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> there are already real-world robotic units, the US uses drones, so we're not going completley into sci-fi setting that up
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> what I really want is a tier of expensive nuke units that obsolete most of the old units so you're stuck with them
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like the game to pass through a cold war phase if possible. maybe provide an alternate branch of techs taht gets you robotic units without nukes,
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> but you'll need the nukes to be able to research the plasma cannons and shit that's to come after that
03:32 <spidey> freeciv 2.0.8??
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> mind you, I'm really worrying about the early gunpowder units first.
03:32 <spidey> i fucked my install up yesterday
03:32 <spidey> =/
03:32 * ghableska downloads freeciv
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: make sure it's 2.0.x. The 2.1 beta isn't compatible with the older series, and we're using the older one
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> which is good because some of us want to see if the warclient is all it's cracked up to be
03:34 <spidey> it really is
03:34 <ghableska> Yeah, 2.0.8?
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> that's the one
03:34 <spidey> i played on one of yaro's servers
03:34 <ghableska> right :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> did you find fundamentalism, spidey?
03:34 <spidey> yes
03:34 <spidey> the tech fundamentalism gives it to you
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03:35 <Lucifer_arma> for some reason my warclient won't find it's share directory. I think it's finding the original freeciv share directory that I installed courtesy of mandriva
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna uninstall mandriva's freeciv and see if that helps
03:36 <spidey> http://warclient.byethost10.com/manual.html
03:36 <spidey> it is
03:36 <spidey> =p
03:37 <spidey> also
03:37 <spidey> choppers should carry paratroopers
03:37 <spidey> =p
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I want an air unit that can act as a transport, and a ground unit that can carry missiles
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> helicopters are a good choice for the air unit acting as a transport :)
03:38 <spidey> yea
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> will marines be able to attack out of it?
03:38 <spidey> what's those things the military uses
03:38 <spidey> marines = water
03:38 <spidey> =p
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> does the game distinguish? The only transports the game has are ships, so maybe it's kind of sea-centric in that regard
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> we'll have to see :)
03:39 <Your_mom_arma> i drew up an airtransport the same day i drew up the morter
03:40 <Your_mom_arma> i was thinking of just graying out units for heavy/light
03:40 <Your_mom_arma> light tank would be gray and a heavy tank would look normal
03:45 <spidey> dude
03:45 <spidey> there's 4 units i've never seen
03:46 <spidey> oops
03:47 <spidey> Your_mom_arma,
03:47 <spidey> Freeciv\data\trident
03:47 <spidey> upload that units picture somewhere for me
03:49 <Your_mom_arma> pictures?
03:49 <luke-jr_> ..
03:49 <spidey> yea
03:49 <spidey> i overwrote mine on accident
03:49 <spidey> don't wanna redownload/install again
03:49 <Fonkay> back
03:49 <spidey> liar
03:50 <Fonkay> shush luke
03:50 * spidey resents that =|
03:50 * Fonkay notes that spidey resembles that
03:51 <spidey> no
03:51 <spidey> luke-jr_, might wanna argue with Fonkay, he says i'm just like you
03:51 <Fonkay> who says what now?
03:52 <spidey> it wasn't a typo
03:52 <spidey> =p
03:53 <Fonkay> he says you're like me?
03:53 <spidey> it wasn't a typo
03:53 <spidey> =p
03:53 <Your_mom_arma> luci do we need archers on horses, we already have archers on horse driven chariots
03:54 <Your_mom_arma> spidey recycling bin?
03:54 <luke-jr_> spidey: you are
03:54 <luke-jr_> I thought Fonkay was female?
03:54 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, i don't have one of those
03:54 <Your_mom_arma> you dirty humans are all the same... i mean im just like you guys
03:54 <spidey> rofl
03:55 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, i removed my recycling bin
03:55 <spidey> via registry
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> why would you
03:55 <spidey> because it's a stupid icon, and i've enver deleted anything i needed before
03:55 <spidey> lol
03:55 <luke-jr_> ok fine
03:55 <luke-jr_> we admit it
03:55 <luke-jr_> spidey is just another client of mine
03:55 <luke-jr_> I have 2 IRC clients
03:55 <luke-jr_> one is "spidey"
03:55 <luke-jr_> so what if I have multiple personalities
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> yeah but why a southern one?
03:56 <spidey> and i use a proxy from tennessee
03:57 <spidey> i'm not in the south
03:57 <spidey> i'm in the middle
03:57 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, is in the south
03:57 <luke-jr_> when we gonna play
03:58 <spidey> i dont' think luci wants to finish that game
03:58 <spidey> i agree kinda
03:58 <spidey> size 9 was way to small
04:00 <luke-jr_> we can handle it
04:00 <spidey> except the fact it's so small that the AI's are trying to settle everywhere i am
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04:01 <spidey> i don't even have a military b
04:01 <luke-jr_> pfft
04:01 <spidey> because it's so small i can't do everything at once, i have to dedicate to it
04:01 <spidey> so i chose science first
04:03 <spidey> to me, playing against 3-4 ai's is getting boring
04:03 <spidey> it's the same....you get tech then kill the AI without a problem
04:03 <spidey> then it's over
04:03 <luke-jr_> not the same this game
04:04 <luke-jr_> we didn't have time to get tech
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> ok lets finish that game
04:04 <spidey> luke-jr_, wtf you on?
04:04 <spidey> we've got all the tech but 4
04:04 <spidey> actually 3
04:04 <spidey> i researched labor union
04:04 <luke-jr_> we didn't when we started the war =p
04:05 <spidey> that wasn't a war
04:05 <spidey> that was you losing units trying to attack one city
04:05 <spidey> then mom joined in with howtizers
04:06 <luke-jr_> =p
04:06 <luke-jr_> it sure said War in my window
04:06 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:06 <spidey> it's a sad excuse for a war then
04:06 <spidey> on yourside =p
04:07 <spidey> if the other ai's had balls they'd whipe those cities you're defending with phalanx out
04:07 <luke-jr_> they couldn't
04:07 <luke-jr_> =p
04:07 <Your_mom_arma> someone add that to the quotess "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers"
04:07 <spidey> those cannons could
04:08 <spidey> #quote add "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey"
04:08 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded. Quote #33 added.
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> 33!
04:08 <DrJoeTr0n> howtizers?
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> #list quotes
04:08 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Error: 'quotes' is not a valid plugin.
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want to finish that game because I'm sick and tired of attacking smallpoxed ais
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> #quotes list
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> we either need to do humans vs humans again, or city_mindistance
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> theres a way to do that
04:09 <spidey> i want humans vs humans
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's a nice game we had going until it was time to actually go offensive, and I at least learned how shitty the ais were building
04:09 <spidey> so we don't know what they're doing
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> lets just finish it, just to say we finished a game
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'd like to get 6-8 people together and play on the world map
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> hey, spidey, GodTodd and I finished a game
04:09 <spidey> AI's we've finished a game =p
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> spidey and I went to war, GodTodd won
04:10 <spidey> you and luke didn't want to
04:10 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no..
04:10 <spidey> we killed the AI's
04:10 <spidey> remember?
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> didn't he wind up with more points, though?
04:10 <spidey> then we was on the verge and it ended
04:10 <spidey> yea
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> because he built all those wonders and got all the techs for it
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> that being the game where we figured out humans vs ais was fun :)
04:10 <spidey> yea
04:10 <spidey> except we played it to much
04:11 <Your_mom_arma> freeciv always seems to end with everyone going to war against luke_jr
04:11 <spidey> now it's boring, because we know what the AI's do
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, we just talk trash about it
04:11 <Fonkay> ok it might be time for sleep
04:11 <spidey> yea
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> and luke-jr_ sets up a pretty boring game, really
04:11 <Fonkay> #night
04:11 <armabot> Good night Fonkay!
04:11 <spidey> because it's fun to make luke think we're going to invade him
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> bunch of starting techs, no barbs, bunch of starting money, weak ais
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04:11 <spidey> we all have the idea of this game
04:11 <spidey> AI's should be noless than easy
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> you guys have to admit (because you know it's true), the europe game we're playing is really fun (except for the smallpoxed enemy)
04:12 <spidey> yea
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> and it's been fun, and we've had barb problems pretty bad, and been at war with ais since before gundpowder, and all that jazz
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> we've had real difficulties, we started with *nothing*
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not terribly interested in any more of these sugarcoated games. Give me barbs! Give me smarter ais (with city_mindistance)!
04:13 <spidey> luke and his boring games =p
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> we had real challenges we had to think about. No script to follow.
04:13 <spidey> how about this
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> the rest of the game is pretty clear, just keep fighting and building units
04:14 <luke-jr_> so we start a new game?
04:14 <spidey> me and mom vs luke and luci, or vice versa
04:14 <luke-jr_> btw, that game had barbs 3000 BC'
04:14 <spidey> did not
04:14 <luke-jr_> should have
04:14 <spidey> i didn't see a one
04:14 <luke-jr_> that's what I set
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'd prefer to just get a few people together and play the cards where they fall
04:14 <luke-jr_> we need AIs
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> sure you didn't set 3000 AD?
04:14 <luke-jr_> -3000
04:14 <spidey> luke-jr_, you need AI's
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> right, with ais
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> something like aifill 10 or something
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> higher
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> we need to have more ais than humans now
04:15 <spidey> and
04:15 <spidey> and
04:15 <spidey> if we have more than 6 people total
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> I like heavy barbs at 0AD
04:15 <luke-jr_> /set onsetbarbs -3000
04:15 <spidey> the map size is noless than 15
04:15 <luke-jr_> ok
04:15 <Your_mom_arma> well we can pick up the other days game or the eurpoean map
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> gives you time to setup your defenses, sorta
04:15 <luke-jr_> let's go talk in hachi.dashjr.org 5555
04:15 <luke-jr_> and change settings as we chat
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, I"m not ready. I've gotta go chat with my wife a bit
04:16 <luke-jr_> :|
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> a new game...
04:16 <luke-jr_> can't you do that at the same time? =p
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> count me out
04:16 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: 1hpd?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm rebuilding yaro's client anyway
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh, mom just wants to finish a game. :)
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> I don't blame him, the problem is that freeciv by its nature has an ambiguous ending
04:17 <spidey> lol @ someone running for governor saying "i refuse to fly the american flag because i'm embarrased to be american"
04:17 <spidey> and forcing a school to hire a porn star
04:17 <ghableska> O_o
04:17 <spidey> he's sure to become governor =p
04:17 <ghableska> definitely
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> the japan map was a lot of fun too, and it had the same aspects. barbs causing real problems, and other real challenges to solve
04:17 <spidey> how about if it's just us
04:17 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you need to talk to your wife or we gonna go to hachi to configure?
04:17 <spidey> let 2 other people play
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> but that game's going to degenerate into tedium when we finally get to go at spain, who's gone and settled every empty inch
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> we could play the jp map but van might get mad we left him out
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> he would, he really wants to play it more, we should wait for him to play it
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> the europe map is nice and big. If anybody can get a size for it, we should generate a map from it
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> and pick a different map generator. I dont' really like being on a zebra's stripe
04:18 <spidey> haha
04:18 * Lucifer_arma goes to chat with his wife, it's the only way to get her to bed where she won't bitch when she sees freeciv on my machine
04:19 <spidey> lol
04:19 <luke-jr_> is there a list of map gens?
04:19 <spidey> how long?
04:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: your wife hates civ too, eh?
04:19 <spidey> more than 2 hours?
04:19 <spidey> i wanna play defcon =p
04:19 <luke-jr_> spidey: come pick settings with me
04:20 <spidey> luci should host
04:20 <spidey> he has the warserver
04:20 <luke-jr_> who cares
04:20 <spidey> fundamentalism = best government
04:20 <spidey> = only in warserver
04:21 <luke-jr_> what if I add it to mine?
04:21 <spidey> k
04:21 <spidey> Server: andrew has connected from 71-212-47-34.tukw.qwest.net.
04:21 <spidey> <andrew> oh
04:21 <spidey> Game: Lost connection: andrew from 71-212-47-34.tukw.qwest.net (player andrew).
04:21 <spidey> Game: andrew has been removed from the game.
04:21 <spidey> haha
04:23 <luke-jr_> lol
04:24 <ghableska> o.0
04:27 <ghableska> ooh
04:27 <ghableska> http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> you guys are really starting a new game?
04:34 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: trying new settings
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> but don't let random players connect, that was pretty annoying
04:34 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you ready?
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> you can get a list of map gens from the tooltip in the preferences dialog
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> just about, I need to check the installation
04:35 * Lucifer_arma just reinstalled the warclient
04:35 <luke-jr_> I set warruleset
04:35 <luke-jr_> not sure if it will work yuet
04:35 <luke-jr_> yet
04:38 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: sure you're not coming?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> you have to have the warserver. You'd know if you had the warserver, you have to download the freeciv sources, patch them with the patch, and then compile and install them.
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: you want to play this time?
04:43 <ghableska> uh, I haven't installed it yet
04:43 <ghableska> probably sometime over the weekend
04:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: it won't work w/o warserver?
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> beats me, the docs I read on that were pretty old
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> so maybe they bundled the warserver settings? It's just a ruleset, I think. Maybe not, maybe there are a few features that require the warserver
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04:52 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: wanna play civ?
04:52 <ghableska> #night
04:52 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:53 <GodTodd> hrmm....i'm trying to get dsl to see my wireless :/
04:55 <GodTodd> apparently it doesn't like integrated wireless heh
04:56 <GodTodd> and yes i'm trying to rtfm :P
05:00 <Your_mom_arma> bye
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05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> shit
05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> spell check died
05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> better reinstall office
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05:47 <GodTodd> blah
05:54 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTr0n: omg
05:54 <luke-jr_> just learn English
05:55 <DrJoeTr0n> nah
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.magnuminmotion.com/essay_chernobyl/ hope you like feeling like garbage
06:02 <GodTodd> hrmm
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06:40 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: come play
06:40 <GodTodd> trying to figure out this wireless thing
06:40 <GodTodd> :P
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07:05 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: play!!
07:05 <luke-jr_> or else we all die
07:05 <luke-jr_> a tragic death
07:05 <luke-jr_> s
07:15 <GodTodd> and?
07:55 <luke-jr_> ;.;
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07:59 <GodTodd> oooh legit...ooooh legit has quit
08:09 <luke-jr_> ...
08:10 <GodTodd> ,,,
08:24 <luke-jr_> ,,l,,
08:31 <spidey> wtf
08:32 <spidey> that froze me
08:35 <luke-jr_> ?
08:42 <spidey> man
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> next time luke, barbarian onset year is 500 AD :)
08:42 <spidey> all my cities above size 2 = rapture
08:42 <spidey> =)
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> crank barbarians if you want, but please no earlier onset than 500 AD :)
08:43 <spidey> i haven't had much of a problem from them
08:43 <spidey> they got 1 city
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> I know, I forgot to do it
08:43 <spidey> i'ma get that back
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, they took out 2 of my cities and did damage to 3 more
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> slowing down growth in key cities, actually, what a pain
08:43 <spidey> luke's almost dead
08:44 <spidey> i'm give him a city of mine way off in the middle of nowhere
08:44 <spidey> heh
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> there's a nice spot south of my little piece of the continent that he can have if there were a city there for him
08:44 <spidey> i'll try to build one
08:44 <spidey> want to fully populate my island
08:44 <spidey> and the surrounding ones i've exploreed
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to get my own civ expanded through the rest of my area. I can try to spare a settler for him, but considering how long it's taken to finally be able to rapture to get teh damn things.... heh
08:45 <spidey> light house is very useful =)
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't normally build navy until I have transports :/
08:45 <spidey> triemes are awesome
08:46 <spidey> around 1500AD i had 3 cities offshore
08:46 <spidey> =p
08:46 <spidey> i have a good idea
08:47 <spidey> i'ma terraform 2 small 1x1 islands
08:47 <spidey> so i can still have my naval bases
08:47 <spidey> =p
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10:10 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, goto sleep
10:10 <DrJoeTr0n> i'd like to
10:10 <wrtlprnft> :sleep
10:10 <spidey> lol
10:10 <wrtlprnft> goto wake_up
10:10 <spidey> * Now talking on #wake_up
10:10 <spidey> * orwell.freenode.net sets mode +n #wake_up
10:10 <spidey> * orwell.freenode.net sets mode +s #wake_up
10:10 <DrJoeTr0n> im in this too tired to sleep funk
10:11 <DrJoeTr0n> and my brother likes to turn our into a boarding house for his drunken friends
10:11 <DrJoeTr0n> room*
10:11 <spidey> lol
10:11 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah, its fucking great
10:12 <DrJoeTr0n> especially on a school night ^^
10:12 <DrJoeTr0n> thanks, you fucking prick
10:12 <spidey> well
10:12 <spidey> here's what you do
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> move out?
10:13 <spidey> hit them all on the head with a blunt object, then goto sleep
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> i like it
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> im only here to finish school
10:13 <spidey> heh
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> my brother is 22
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> still lives here :/
10:14 <spidey> my uncle's 33
10:14 <spidey> still lives here
10:14 <spidey> =p
10:14 <DrJoeTr0n> bwahaha
10:14 <spidey> actually i think he's 34
10:14 <spidey> but ohwell
10:14 <DrJoeTr0n> well has he ever left? or is he a boomerang?
10:14 <spidey> yes he's left
10:14 <spidey> here and there
10:14 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
10:15 <spidey> but allways comes back
10:15 <DrJoeTr0n> so he's a boomerang then
10:15 <DrJoeTr0n> my brother has yet to leave
10:15 <spidey> i think the longest he's moved out is like 5 years
10:15 <spidey> then he came back
10:15 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah
10:15 <spidey> moved out for 7 months
10:15 <spidey> came back
10:15 <spidey> has been here since
10:15 <spidey> =/
10:16 <spidey> well
10:16 <DrJoeTr0n> my goal is to finish school, and a couple of friends and i are going to get a house in chicago
10:16 <spidey> techniqually this is kinda his house
10:16 <DrJoeTr0n> and i'll be done when they are
10:16 <spidey> my grandma put his name on the title, when she dies it's his
10:16 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
10:17 <DrJoeTr0n> my teef hurt :/
10:17 <spidey> start brushing them?
10:17 <DrJoeTr0n> nah its wisdom teef problems
10:17 <DrJoeTr0n> theyt need to come out
10:17 <spidey> heh
10:17 <spidey> mine came in perfect
10:18 <spidey> i'm healthy :D
10:19 <spidey> teeth are perfect, no health problems , haven't been sick in the last 4 years, i played hooky alot when i was in public school though o.O
10:19 <spidey> the only thing, smoking gonna kill me :D
10:19 <spidey> or when i start driving, that might kill me too...
10:20 <spidey> #night
10:20 <armabot> Good night spidey!
10:21 <DrJoeTr0n> ha
10:21 <spidey> i'ma enjoy a nice long sleep, while DrJoeTr0n gets annoyed by drunk people
10:21 <spidey> =p
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> i love it
10:23 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n,
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> what
10:23 <spidey> does firefox crash for you?
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> not since i changed my ram
10:23 <spidey> Update.exe and rundll.exe keep starting, then it crashes
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> its crashed once since
10:24 <DrJoeTr0n> did you get 2.0?
10:24 <spidey> 184.108.40.206
10:25 <spidey> i guess i'll update in the morning
10:25 <spidey> going to sleep now :D
10:25 <DrJoeTr0n> ta
10:31 <guru3> goooooooooooooooooooood morning!
10:37 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: you there? Mind if I turn your puckmap into a fortress map?
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13:56 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/puckmap-1.aamap.xml :D
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16:55 <luke-jr_work> hmm
16:55 <luke-jr_work> UNB seems to be potential competition for phpBB
16:59 <wrtlprnft> phpbb sucks anyways, anything is a competition.
17:01 <luke-jr_work> phpBB is pretty decent, except in security
17:04 <guru3> ssshhhhhhhhhh
17:05 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't have a lot of features and generates broken HTML en masse
17:05 <wrtlprnft> and if you add hacks to it upgrading becomes a real pain
17:06 <guru3> that's true
17:07 <luke-jr_work> heh
17:08 <luke-jr_work> so far it hasn't been eliminated in my forum comparison =p
17:08 <luke-jr_work> of course, that changes if I make UTF-8 a must-have
17:09 <guru3> ><
17:11 <luke-jr_work> ok, reduced my list to 4 entries
17:11 <luke-jr_work> Phorum, phpBB, SMF, and Unclassified NewsBoard
17:11 <luke-jr_work> I'm biased for UNB cuz it has XMPP support
17:13 <wrtlprnft> now who would need that
17:13 <wrtlprnft> oh, i know, the world, everyone, it's the solution to all problems. I understand.
17:13 <luke-jr_work> you prefer email for watched topic notifications?
17:13 <wrtlprnft> i prefer RSS
17:14 <wrtlprnft> rss or atom or somesuch
17:14 <luke-jr_work> it supports that too
17:14 <luke-jr_work> RSS 2 is comparable to XMPP ;p
17:15 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i don't want anything that pushes stuff to my client, because then i have no way of stopping them from doing them if they start sending me spam
17:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:16 <luke-jr_work> you're rather pull spam?
17:16 <luke-jr_work> you can stop it by terminating the TCP connection =p
17:17 <wrtlprnft> umm
17:17 <wrtlprnft> if i'm pulling i can just stop doing that
17:18 <luke-jr_work> only if you know what's coming
17:18 <wrtlprnft> if they have some way to push stuff to me, like an email address or jabber address they can just continue pushing
17:19 <luke-jr_work> and you can ignore it ;p
17:19 <luke-jr_work> or close the connection
17:19 <wrtlprnft> they can publish that address to other spammers
17:19 <wrtlprnft> what if that's my regular chat account and used for useful stuff, too?
17:20 <luke-jr_work> only if they know that address
17:20 <luke-jr_work> theoretically, it could use pubsub
17:20 <wrtlprnft> i don't want tons of addresses
17:20 <luke-jr_work> but anyhow, most forums require that you provide an email
17:21 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, RSS 2 may very well be more appropriate than XMPP
17:21 <luke-jr_work> for news
17:21 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: there i can use a spam-only address that i only check if i'm expecting some key
17:22 <wrtlprnft> bbiab
17:23 <luke-jr_work> well solve the problem instead of working around it =p
17:23 <luke-jr_work> pull in inherently inefficient and slow
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20:28 <wrtlprnft> #g 13480 seconds in hours
20:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 13,480 seconds = 3.74444444 hours
20:38 <luke-jr_work> #g 13480 seconds per USD in days per yen
20:38 <armabot> luke-jr_work: 13,480 (seconds per U.S. dollar) = 0.00132174279 days per Japanese yen
20:38 <luke-jr_work> hah
20:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 15000 seconds in hours
20:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 15,000 seconds = 4.16666667 hours
20:45 <luke-jr_work> #g 15000 milliseconds per yen to minutes per euro
20:45 <armabot> luke-jr_work: 15,000 (milliseconds per Japanese yen) = 37.530818 minutes per Euro
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21:15 * spidey yawns
21:16 <GodTodd> go to bed
21:16 <GodTodd> :P
21:16 <spidey> i just woke up
21:16 <GodTodd> so?
21:17 <spidey> i dun wanna go back
21:17 <GodTodd> wimp
21:17 <spidey> that's it
21:18 <spidey> i'm blocking IExplorer.exe from running
21:18 <GodTodd> but...but....but then bill gates can't keep an eye on what you're doing
21:18 <spidey> good :|
21:19 <spidey> either way, now i'm getting spyware and i dunno where from
21:19 <GodTodd> ie is a good guess
21:19 <GodTodd> heh
21:19 <spidey> i don't remember using except for my msn email
21:19 <spidey> oh, heh
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22:12 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || 2020 team challenge (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) (1 more message)
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22:12 <guru3> go classic play
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22:20 <Van-hayes> #ping
22:20 <armabot> pong
22:21 <guru3> gnip
22:22 <Van-hayes> gnop
22:22 <guru3> :)
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23:51 <armabot> pong
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23:53 <armabot> ping
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