Log from 2006-10-13:
--- Day changed Fri Oct 13 2006
00:11 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails z-man
00:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-man” at the moment, sorry.
00:11 <Vanhayes> #lastseen alex
00:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: |AST| }{Alex}{ has last been seen on  AST Server  |Fortress| 7 minutes ago.
00:13 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Strawberry Fields (9 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (9 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (8 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || 2020 team challenge (3 players) || ~}Six ~}Dragons{~ Server{~ (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (3 players) || (1 more message)
00:13 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6223 /tools/svg2aamap/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Re-factored parser. The matrix stuff needs to be re-merged.
00:13 <Vanhayes> #more
00:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (2 players) || Wild West - Sumo (2 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Temporary Arena {100MBit} (2 players) || Laura Epsilon (small, high speed) (2 players) || icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net (1 players)
00:13 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails ast
00:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: AST Server  |Fortress|: Players (8/16): CTxChiCho, CT|P4, Kamakazi, Lackadaisical, MaZuffeR, player "2", Vanhayes, ¯VPN¯G5
00:21 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayer
00:21 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 77 seconds old; , -=}ID<restrict, -{E}- Guth3rax, -|ct|- play, /-\|)/-\/\/\, =$(0rch3d=, >3D>Ensair, ????, aeon, Andy, Angel, AshitakA, C14, Chris, CT|P4, Dangerous K, dave, Dragon Fire, Dstar dragon, Foy, FroZen, happy squirrel, help im a bug, hotgirl, HSID~Anubis, ibeatu, iDiot, ikono, Kamakazi, Lackadaisical, mattop, MaZuffeR, Mn Vikings (K), nc~Tidbit, norbert79, old dave, Palatinum, Perdio, (2 more messages)
00:21 <Vanhayes> #more
00:21 <Vanhayes> #more
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: player "2", Player 1, real shiznit, Reno, Schotti, sensient, shouny, ShowHealion, SimCosmos (PT), street, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, syde, TOM, twee, v for, V3xED, Vanhayes, Velox, vendetta, vrumm vrumm, Zsolti, [noclan] JC, ^NB^<)cHEzE(>, {WPN}·Légît, {_~K~_} w00t, |AST| <snake>, |AST| }{Alex}{, ~"XzL.Tvitesse, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~HSID~Anti-Hero, ~HSID~cookiee, ~HSID~crash, ~{GP}~woorm, ~|Sh0j0|~, ~}SD{~DaRkAnGeL, (1 more message)
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~}SD{~OBEY, ¡ªWPN»!·Ãêtµ, ¯VPN¯G5, °¯Hay-Lin, °¯°3dot °°¯, °°qain
00:21 <Vanhayes> #lastseen player 1
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Player 1 has last been seen on -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server 1 minutes ago.
00:24 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails lords
00:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server: Players (5/16): Baphomet, help im a bug, KamP, Player 1, radian
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00:40 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen Dr Joe Tron
00:40 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Dr Joe Tron seems to be on Shrunkland in 2.8.2 right now.
00:40 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails shrunk'
00:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “shrunk\\\'” at the moment, sorry.
00:40 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails shrunk
00:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (4/6): Dr Joe Tron, happy squirrel, Invader, ShowHealion
00:41 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails Lobster
00:41 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
00:41 <DrJoeTron> fuck you guys
00:48 <Your_mom_arma> heh
00:50 <DrJoeTron> vader wants in
00:51 <DrJoeTron> he wants to be 3
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01:17 <DrJoeTron> bbl
01:29 <Commn> http://internethealthreport.com/
01:29 <Commn> bah sprint
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01:58 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:58 <armabot> pong
02:00 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6224 /tools/svg2aamap/lib/svg2aamap/element.rb: Fixed a close path bug in PolygonElement
02:02 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6225 /tools/svg2aamap/lib/svg2aamap/element.rb: aesthetic fix…
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02:32 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: 
02:32 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: 
02:33 <Luke-Jr> spidey: 
02:33 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: 
02:33 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: 
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> Dio:
02:34 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: are you planning to play?
02:46 <Vanhayes> play????
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> I can start, but I want to be able to switch out to an ai and let it go on auto-control for a little while :)
02:47 <Vanhayes> im guessing that freeciv thing?
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that freeciv thing
02:48 <GodTodd> what's freeciv?
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> fiery realistic emutalted eels caringly innovating viruses
02:49 <GodTodd> #cyborg freeciv
02:49 <Vanhayes> #cyborg freceiv
02:49 <armabot> GodTodd: F.R.E.E.C.I.V.: Functional Robotic Entity Engineered for Calculation and Immediate Violence
02:50 <Vanhayes> aw
02:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: F.R.E.C.E.I.V.: Functional Robotic Entity Calibrated for Exploration and Immediate Violence
02:50 <Vanhayes> beat me to it
02:50 <GodTodd> ;)
02:54 <GodTodd> #g 4315425435235435432543253254325325432535432 * 13215454354325454324323454332143243214432414
02:54 <armabot> GodTodd: 4,315,425,435,235,435,432,543,253,254,325,325,432,535,432 * 13,215,454,354,325,454,324,323,454,332,143,243,214,432,414 = 5.70303079 * 10^(85)
02:55 <GodTodd> #wunder 75023
02:55 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 61.2°F (7:55 PM CDT on October 12, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa. 
02:57 <Vanhayes> #wether Saint John
02:57 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
02:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 9:19 PM ADT; Tonight - Periods of rain ending early this evening then cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers or drizzle. Amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Wind southeast 50 km/h gusting to 80 becoming south 30 early this evening then west 20 overnight. Low (1 more message)
02:57 <GodTodd> Vanhayes: you need new fingers
02:57 <Vanhayes> i need better aim
02:57 <GodTodd> remind me to never clean your bathroom then
02:57 <Vanhayes> fingers are only as good as the brain that controls them
02:57 <Vanhayes> heh
02:58 <Vanhayes> #more
02:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: 12.; Friday - Clearing in the morning. Wind west 20 km/h. High 15. UV index 3 or moderate. Friday night..clear. Wind west 20 km/h becoming light near midnight. Low plus 5.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 13.;
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> <luke-jr_work> my respect for Perl coders is currently very low  <-- which differentiates perl coders from non-C coders in what way?
03:16 <GodTodd> hrmm...why aren't they trying to shut down all the lyrics sites?
03:16 <Your_mom_arma> or guitar tab sites
03:18 <GodTodd> ummm they are trying to shut down the tab sites
03:18 <GodTodd> and it pisses me off
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03:21 <GodTodd> apparently music is more copyrighted than words
03:21 <GodTodd> or something 
03:21 <GodTodd> :/
03:21  * Lucifer_arma notes we live in an anti-reverse engineering culture
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> which is essentially how the tab sites were constructed...
03:22 <GodTodd> most of the lyrics sites are the same way
03:22 <GodTodd> people put up what they think they hear
03:23 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: I guess that'd be ok
03:23 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: yeah, civ
03:23 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: you in?
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03:25 <Luke-Jr> Van-hayes: wb
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03:29 <GodTodd> should it scare me that the song land of confusion still fits today?
03:29 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr: i should be getting to bed in a couple of hours
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03:35 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: that's okay, the game starts Fri/Sat
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03:35 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: and you'll have all 86400 seconds per turn
03:40 <GodTodd> hmmm ok
03:49 <spidey> Luke-Jr, 
03:50 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: so you're in for the game? :)
03:50 <Luke-Jr> spidey: how about you?
03:50 <spidey> ?
03:52 <spidey> man
03:52 <spidey> it's gonna get 32 tonight
03:52 <spidey> and we don't have any propain =/
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you should try looking for "propane" instead
03:53 <spidey> smartass >.>
03:53 <Your_mom_arma> 32?
03:54 <spidey> or colder
03:54 <spidey> #cnn 38256
03:54 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 44.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Wind: SSW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
03:54 <Your_mom_arma> 32 isnt that cold
03:54 <spidey> it is
03:54 <spidey> #g 32 F in C
03:54 <armabot> spidey: 32 degrees Fahrenheit = 0 degrees Celsius
03:54 <spidey> low is the 30's and high is the 50's today
03:55 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:55 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 36.3°F (8:55 PM CDT on October 12, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa.  Frost advisory in effect from 1 am to 8 am CDT Friday... 
03:55 <spidey> hmm
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> im from america
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> so it's freezing cold?
03:55 <spidey> ya
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> bah
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> can people live in 32 F weather?
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> z32 degrees is wind breaker weather
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> don't you need a spacesuit or something?
03:56 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, be lucky you're in texas
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> it freezes here sometimes...
03:56 <spidey> but you have heat currect?
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> gets below 50 and my balls freeze
03:57 <spidey> we don't have enough money to get the tank refilled
03:57 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, yeah, you know, they hook up these pipes to your house that pipe in natural gas
03:57 <spidey> that's gunny?
03:57 <spidey> >.>
03:57 <spidey> funny to
03:57 <spidey> um
03:57 <spidey> not in the country
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 67.8°F (8:54 PM CDT on October 12, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa. 
03:57 <spidey> you get huge propane tanks
03:57 <Your_mom_arma> mabey i just like the cold too much
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03:58 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, maybe you're just a sicko
03:58 <spidey> maybe you do
03:58 <spidey> but i live in a log cabin house
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> actually, they call your part of the world "temperate"
03:58 <spidey> that isn't insulated good
03:58 <spidey> so what it is outside it is inside
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> see, Texas = subtropical, New Jersey (toxic waste dump = temperate
03:59 <spidey> not to mention this house is over 100 years old
03:59 <spidey> >.>
03:59 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:59 <Luke-Jr> spidey: ?
03:59 <spidey> what
03:59 <Luke-Jr> you playing the game?
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> he spent all his money on servers and can't afford propane
03:59 <Your_mom_arma> the nuclear waste makes it extra cold in the winter and extremly hot in the summer
03:59 <spidey> probably not
03:59 <Luke-Jr> aww
03:59 <Luke-Jr> why not
03:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i only spend $30 on servers
03:59 <spidey> the rest is donations
03:59  * Lucifer_arma notes his gas bill almost never goes over $30/month
04:00 <GodTodd> #wunder 75023
04:00 <spidey> which mind you in september i got $80 ot so
04:00 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 58.6°F (9:00 PM CDT on October 12, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa. 
04:00  * spidey notes we don't have GAS BILLS
04:00 <GodTodd> good god...it might hit under 50 :/
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> geez todd, that's arctic weather up there
04:00 <spidey> we get tanks
04:00 <GodTodd> i get howitzers
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, so every month you take the money you *didn't* spend on gas and stick it in a jar
04:00 <spidey> which cost about 100+ to refill
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> when the tanks are running empty, you refill them with that money
04:01 <spidey> easy for you to say
04:01 <GodTodd> gas might work better luci
04:01 <GodTodd> :P
04:01 <spidey> $720 a month doesn't go far for 3 people, you know groceries and stuff
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> then get a job instead of playing 48-hour video games
04:02 <spidey> i can't
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> too busy conquering europe 50 times?
04:02 <spidey> i'm 16 and noone will hire me
04:02 <spidey> i've tried
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> evidently not hard enough
04:02 <GodTodd> mcdonalds hires everyone
04:02 <spidey> not when they're full
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> in a little born-again Christian town, my 15-year-old wife managed to get a job that paid us $400/month
04:02 <Your_mom_arma> im fairly certain 16's legal working age
04:02 <Luke-Jr> McDonalds even pays $7/hr here, they're so desperate =p
04:03 <GodTodd> mcdonalds is never full
04:03 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: no way that's full time...
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: I didn't say how many hours she worked
04:03  * spidey minimizes, none of you live here nor know anything about here, i've lived here 16 years
04:04 <spidey> i think i know what is and isn't hiring
04:04  * Lucifer_arma notes that during the school year it is illegal for anyone 15 years old to work more than 3 hours a week
04:04 <Luke-Jr> spidey: why not playing?
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> what makes one hick town any different than another?  Your mistake is thinking we don't know hick towns
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> most of us moved to the city precisely because we hated the hick towns we came from
04:05 <Luke-Jr> pfft
04:05 <Luke-Jr> speak for yourself
04:05 <GodTodd> is alamo a hick town?
04:05 <Luke-Jr> I moved because I couldn't find a job there
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, do hicks live there?
04:05 <GodTodd> dunno...wasn't ever interested enough in most of them to ever find out
04:05  * spidey also notes the ONE car is almost always on empty
04:05 <GodTodd> heh
04:05 <spidey> hence why i'm always here
04:06 <spidey> you don't think i'd like to goto the movies or out sometimes?
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, you sit around playing video games so much, it just seems like you could come up with something better to do instead of playing video games and whining about being broke
04:06 <spidey> erm
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> lots of ways to make money, who cares if someone won't hire you?  Find some other way to make money
04:06 <spidey> i play video games mostly after 4pm or later
04:07 <spidey> the rest of time i've been helping rebuild parts of the house
04:07 <spidey> which isn't easy seeing as it's old ass oak >.>
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> you're 16, reasonably intelligent (even if you can't spell), and you've got lots of time on your hands.  Not being able to make money is nothing but wussy-incarnate.
04:07 <GodTodd> collect cans
04:07 <spidey> ...
04:07 <spidey> you forget i live miles from the nearest house
04:07 <spidey> even further from town
04:08 <Commn> look, the most a 16 year old boy would be doing in his free time is masturbating furiously
04:08 <Commn> hehe
04:08 <spidey> LOL
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> you can reach millions of people through your internet connection.  You just need to apply your intelligence to something besides dominating europe
04:08 <spidey> and asia
04:08 <spidey> xD
04:08 <spidey> look
04:09 <spidey> before i moved here
04:09 <spidey> i lived close to people
04:09 <spidey> hardly any of you saw me
04:09 <spidey> beause i WAS doing something
04:09 <spidey> there's nothing to do here
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> there's nothing to do + we're broke off our asses = an opportunity to make money
04:09 <spidey> no
04:09 <spidey> like i said
04:10 <spidey> gas for the car
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> you're just in denial now, maybe you should see a shrink instead?
04:10  * GodTodd notes that Lucifer_arma works from home....no need for a car and the company can be thousands of miles away.
04:10  * Lucifer_arma nods
04:11  * spidey also notes
04:11 <GodTodd> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
04:11 <spidey> that in the last year half the people have been laid off here
04:11 <spidey> = less jobs because those people got another job
04:11  * GodTodd notes that Lucifer_arma works from home....no need for a car and the company can be thousands of miles away.
04:12 <GodTodd> ^^^^^^^^
04:12  * Lucifer_arma notes that the company that pays his bills is located in silicon valley (california)
04:12  * Your_mom_arma notes that arguing over the internet is pointless(or convincing someone of something)
04:13 <GodTodd> hell...you like fucking with web stuff...do freelance web design
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  Let's go find a post by titnass and read his signature :)
04:13 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, check out some of the freelance websites, people are always looking for someone to make a website
04:13 <spidey> i suck at that
04:13 <spidey> i can't even make a site compatible in all browsers
04:14 <spidey> so i code for firefox only >.>
04:14 <GodTodd> so do i
04:14 <GodTodd> heh
04:14 <spidey> xD
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> then spend some time learning what you need to make a site compatible in all browsers and then go harvest the cash and buy propane
04:14 <GodTodd> yep
04:15 <GodTodd> beats having to grow your asshair long enough to cover up with
04:15 <Your_mom_arma> while we're on the topic hardly makes a website that displays well on my screen resolution
04:15 <GodTodd> who's hardly?
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> um, did you miss a pronoun in there?
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> not trying to be a grammar nazi (no point, heh), just didn't understand waht you said
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> yes"anyone *"
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> what's your screen resolution?
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> well when its compleatly unreadable then i have no problem
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> 1440x900
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> I've noticed a lot of sites breaking down at 1280x800, actually
04:17  * spidey likes fluid sites
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's like they cap at 1280x764 and stop working after that
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> liquid layouts in particular have problems at high resolutions
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> say you float: right an image, right?
04:17 <Your_mom_arma> hey wow guys nice web article... too bad its in a single column with 40 words per line in a font size 12
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> and it looks fine up to a point because the paragraph it's next to is always 4-5 lines long at least
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> put it on mom's screen and it comes out 1 line, now your whole layout is fucked because of that image
04:18 <spidey> um
04:18 <spidey> i embed it in a div layer
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm pretty damn sick of people using pixels for font sizes.
04:19 <spidey> so it's fluid to
04:19 <spidey> i use pixels xD
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> it is fluid, the point is that the very nature of it being fluid is what fucks it up at high screen resolutions
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> most of them can be fixed just by bumping the font size up in the browser, but then you go and say "12px" for font size and I can't even do that
04:19 <spidey> um
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> so I could've fixed it had you been true to your fluid design, but since you weren't, you've prevented me from being able to fix it myself
04:20 <spidey> the images look fine at 1280x1024
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> maybe your website, we're talking in general people do this kind of stuff
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen GUI bugs in some applications that hit at larger screen sizes too.  It's the same problem, I can test a layout at any size from 1x1 -> My screen resolution, and I can't test any higher than that
04:21 <spidey> well
04:21 <spidey> most people also use tables
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> so when most developers only have 1024x768, you can expect problems at higher resolutions
04:21 <spidey> which suck
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> the real problem is that most people use fixed layouts because they just can't handle the idea that the page is supposed to look different on different screens
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> so they want it to look the same on every screen.
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> So a lot of sites that look fine still come out taking up only 2/3 of the horizontal space in my browser for no good reason
04:23 <spidey> well
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> then they screw up the background image a lot, and it tiles weird for large horizontal distances
04:23 <spidey> the best thing to do is use a fixed layout
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> no, that's the worst thing to do.  I'm not talking about "fixed" as an attribute of anything
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'm talking about hardcoding the base element width at say 600px
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> instead of width: 80% or whatever
04:24 <spidey> well
04:24 <spidey> my site's fluid without percents
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> the page is supposed to resize with the browser.  Horizontal scrollbars are a sure sign the web developer fucked up.
04:24 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net/style.css
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> instead of width: 80% ***or whatever***
04:25 <spidey> .center {
04:25 <spidey>   overflow: auto;
04:25 <spidey>   position: absolute;
04:25 <spidey>   top: 33px;
04:25 <spidey>   bottom: 15px;
04:25 <spidey>   left: 30px;
04:25 <spidey>   right: 30px;
04:25 <spidey> just use something like that
04:25 <spidey> xD
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> I use percents because I'm kind of old school with liquid layouts and haven't learned all the newest stuff
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> how's that going to resize with my browser?
04:25 <spidey> simple
04:25 <spidey> it's 33px from the top of the browser
04:25 <spidey> 15 from the bottom
04:25 <spidey> and so on
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> aha
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> that's fine, except that some monitors have smaller pixels than others, but that's just a margin anyway, right?
04:26 <spidey> yar, lol
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's not the same thing as <div style="width: 600px">hi there</div>
04:27 <spidey> no
04:28 <spidey> why would i do that when i can do
04:28 <Your_mom_arma> </br>
04:28 <spidey> <div class="blah"> blah</div>
04:28 <spidey> and put it all in 1 file
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what you're after and what tools you're using.
04:29 <spidey> notepad
04:29 <spidey> =p
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> If you have to pull css info from a database instead, then it's usually better to just put <style> tags on every page
04:29 <spidey> no i pull it from a .css
04:29 <spidey>  <link href="style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> if you're using xslt to make a transformation, it can be easier to just stick it in the page again
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but using a php script to generate a css page can be more server load than needed
04:30 <spidey> who uses php to do that?
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> for handwritten sites, yeah, css files are obviously the way to go
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> um, I have
04:30 <spidey> lawl
04:30 <spidey> =p
04:30 <Luke-Jr> spidey: Lucifer_arma has a point w/ the internet
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes that's what the application calls for
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> if you would learn how to spell and maybe how to write, there's a solid market for freelance tech writers
04:31 <spidey> Luke-Jr, erm maybe but i'm no graphics guy, just layouts....and plain layouts like i'm using now look boring
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> When did microbus city disband
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> they disbanded?
04:32 <spidey> dusband?
04:32 <spidey> what you mean?
04:32 <Your_mom_arma> i guess... no more arma server
04:32 <spidey> erm
04:32 <spidey> unless lizz pissed micro off it should be there
04:33 <spidey> we lost half our old members because he kept raising the rubber
04:33 <spidey> now he's put it at 25
04:33 <spidey> but it's to late for all that
04:33 <Luke-Jr> spidey: you're MBC?
04:33 <Your_mom_arma> cash is the only guy i've seen with mbc tags in a month that wasnt spidey
04:33 <spidey> i'm a mod
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> their website is still as unreadable as ever
04:34 <spidey> lol
04:34 <spidey> they use phpnuke
04:34 <spidey> and nukemod forums
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> they're probably in hiding after we persecuted them so much for being asshats
04:36 <spidey> ....
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> "Images posted may be marked as copyrighted by their poster, unless the image is meant for use in MicroBusCity.com by its members, which makes the image the property of MicroBusCity.com."
04:36 <Your_mom_arma> im still waiting for wpn to disband and for all its members to disappear
04:36 <spidey> mbc is one of the best clans in arma compared to sp WPN and the others
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> top turd on the pile, spidey, top turd on the pile
04:37 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, like that'd be a bad thing? =p
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> when I want people to think I'm a good guy, I don't compare myself to a turd
04:37  * spidey hasn't touched arma except a few times in a very long time
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> besides, when MBC first showed up, they were the worst clan.  They were the white trash of the game!
04:38 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:38 <spidey> i think you just didn't give them a chance
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> they got so bad server admins were banning anybody who showed up with MBC as a clan tag
04:38 <spidey> not all of them where/are bad
04:38 <spidey> the ones you don't see
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> me?  who you talking to?  When have I not given somebody a fair chance?
04:39 <spidey> simple
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> and who was the one arguing that MBC was cleaning up their act?
04:39 <spidey> descriminating the whole clan because of a few assholes that where let in
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> you know, trying to defend some of the MBC clanners that were doing well
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> discriminating the whole clan?  If you dont' want people to discriminate against you because fo who you associate with, then don't join a clan!
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's the whole *point* of a clan, isn't it?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> for a group of people with common values to associate themselves and those common values?
04:40 <Your_mom_arma> 1bad banana spoils the bunch
04:40 <spidey> the point of a clan is it's a group of people who enjoy playing the same game
04:40 <spidey> nothing more
04:40 <spidey> nothing less
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> when I go out there without a clan tag, people take me for how I present myself
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> if I went out there with a clan tag, people would take me for how I present myself + how other people with the same tag presented themselves
04:41 <spidey> look
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> and when we don't, when we accept a clanner on his own, he always *always* bitches that "you don't recognize my clan!  You don't think we're serious!  You don't think we're legitimate!"
04:41 <spidey> you can't have a perfect group of people
04:41 <spidey> it's impossible
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> THEN WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT?!?!?
04:41 <spidey> i've learned this with the soldat clan
04:42 <spidey> what the fuck you talking about? >.>
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> hell, the only clans worth a fuck around here are the ones that are more anti-clans than anything else
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> (DpG, whatever everclear and his brother had, etc)
04:43 <Your_mom_arma> baccardi i think was his brothers tag
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> that was his name, but they had a clan tag
04:43 <spidey> i don't understand that either
04:43 <spidey> they're anti-clan
04:43 <spidey> but they're a group of people who operate like a clan
04:43 <spidey> what makes them so different?
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> then there's this new clan, Dinosaurs with Hats, that seems pretty cool
04:43 <spidey> the fact they're a clan that hates clans?
04:43 <Luke-Jr> lol
04:43 <spidey> just because they don't where tags?
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> what makes them so different is that they have absolutely no history of ever acting like asshats on the grid
04:44 <spidey> really?
04:44 <spidey> kamp doesn't?
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'm talking about people with real clan tags
04:44 <Your_mom_arma> kamps in a clan?
04:44 <spidey> ...
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> not people without clan tags.  See, people that have clan tags expect to be judged *well* because of their clan and always pitch a fit when they are judged poorly
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> but people around here don't judge clanners poorly automatically (except for kamp and silly)
04:45 -!- WPN52 [n=WPN52@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2k1-229.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #armagetron
04:45 -!- WPN52 is now known as Durka
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> so whenever we judge a clanner poorly based on his clan tag, GET THIS, it's because other people in his clan are asshats
04:45 <Durka> hi kids
04:45 <spidey> it's a fucking game, people shouldn't get uptight about something
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of asshats, hi Durka
04:45 <spidey> the point is to have fun
04:45 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:45 <spidey> not see who can down who better
04:45 <Durka> lol hi luci :)
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> then don't take it so personally when I say that MBC used to truly be the white trash of the game
04:45 <Durka> im on that irc thing i made that i kept testing
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> now WPN is the white trash of the game
04:46 <Durka> ???
04:46 <spidey> lmao!
04:46  * Durka is RED
04:46 <Your_mom_arma> red neck white trash?
04:46 <Durka> luke are u here???
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> but MBC ws much worse than WPN is now when they first showed up
04:46  * Durka is GREEN
04:46  * spidey is glad durka hasn't figured out irc colors
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> tank would kick his ass in a heartbeat
04:46  * Durka is BLUE
04:47  * Lucifer_arma sometimes suspects Durka is Cristi
04:47 <spidey> lol
04:47  * Durka has a color thing next to this thing but doesnt know how to use it
04:47 <Durka> yellow
04:47 <Durka> yay!!!!
04:47 <spidey> oh god
04:47 <Durka> ok back to normal :)
04:48 <Your_mom_arma> horray for the fact that i have colors disabled in my irc client... now if only i could do that in arma
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> luckily we can ignore him.  No /team calls here to watch for
04:48 <GodTodd> i used to know the special slash tags for colors and shit
04:48 <GodTodd> hrmm
04:48 <spidey> actually
04:48 <spidey> i know how to get past that
04:48 <Durka> ya what are the tags in irc
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's "/quit"
04:48 <spidey> LOL
04:48 <Durka> LOL
04:49 <Durka> ok ill stop bothering u guys im gonna go on arma :) (great news for Luci ;)
04:49  * Durka will try /quit
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04:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I like Durka, I really do, hes just so damned annoying sometimes
04:49 <Luke-Jr> lol
04:50 <GodTodd> hrmm
04:50 <GodTodd> there we go :)
04:50 <spidey> die
04:50 <GodTodd> and bold
04:51 <Your_mom_arma> woah i actually saw bold i must have forgotten to disable that
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you guys made me do it, I disabled colored text
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> not in the channel, just in my client (can't do it in the channel, I"m not the mod here)
04:51 <GodTodd> haha
04:51 <GodTodd> oops
04:51 <GodTodd> forgot those were activated
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> Can you read this?!?!?
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> How about this?
04:52 <spidey> omg
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
04:52 <spidey> you just found someting more annoying than my /notice command
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> my client isn't letting the background color through
04:53  * Luke-Jr shoots Lucifer_arma 
04:53  * Lucifer_arma wonders why the jesus lover is the most violent person here
04:53 <GodTodd> blah
04:53  * Lucifer_arma wonders why he doesn't "love thy neighbor as thy brother"
04:53 <Your_mom_arma> im more violent then luke-jr
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> no you're not
04:54 <GodTodd> maybe he hates his brother
04:54 <Your_mom_arma> aw
04:54 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: you're in Texas, not Missouri!
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he doesn't have a brother, so he doesn't know how to love a brother?
04:54 <GodTodd> he's catholic....he *knows* how to love a brother ;)
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> that's gotta be the most literal interpretation of the bible I"ve ever seen
04:55  * spidey has a brother and knows how to hate a brother
04:55 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr is probobly a push over in real life thats my rational
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  Ok, I can go with that.
04:55 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: I don't exist in real life, that's all made up.
04:55 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: maybe we should make it our mission in life to save him....teach him how to love a brother
04:55 <GodTodd> :)
04:55 <spidey> why would we do that
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> my wife would get pissed at me if I took part in something like that
04:55 <Your_mom_arma> you guys are gonna go all creepy uncle on him
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: so we can get laid?
04:56 <spidey> erm
04:56 <spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?
04:56  * Luke-Jr notes none of you live in Missouri and thus don't have a MO concealed carry permit
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> no, but who else is going to teach him how to love a man properly?
04:57 <spidey> fag
04:57 <spidey> xD
04:57  * Lucifer_arma notes he doesn't need a permit to hide a weapon in his pants
04:57 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:57  * GodTodd already hides a weapon in his pants.
04:57  * spidey notes only a real pussy uses a weapon
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> is it loaded?
04:57 <GodTodd> always
04:57  * GodTodd pets luke.
04:58 <GodTodd> well...now that i've killed chat...my work here is done
04:59 <GodTodd> :/
04:59 <spidey> #time
04:59 <armabot> spidey: 04:58 AM, October 13, 2006
04:59 <Your_mom_arma> #time
04:59 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: 04:59 AM, October 13, 2006
04:59 <GodTodd> <NES> lol
04:59 <GodTodd> <NES> I download something from Napster
04:59 <GodTodd> <NES> And the same guy I downloaded it from starts downloading it from me when I'm done
04:59 <GodTodd> <NES> I message him and say "What are you doing? I just got that from you"
04:59 <GodTodd> <NES> "getting my song back fucker"
04:59 <spidey> GodTodd, 
04:59 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:59 <spidey> bash.org is old
04:59 <spidey> =p
05:00 <GodTodd> i haven't read it before so it's funny
05:00 <GodTodd> so stfu :P
05:00 <spidey> xS
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05:00 <Your_mom_arma> i think wrtls clock is off by a minute
05:00 <spidey> ohes noes
05:00 <GodTodd> good thing you said 'clock'..........
05:00 <damentz> yes
05:01 <damentz> p4r0l3, i found a noobasaurusrex in my pantry eating my donuts =(
05:01 <Your_mom_arma> wth
05:01 <spidey> lol
05:02 <spidey> i like that
05:02 <spidey> i'ma set it as a instant chat
05:02 <spidey> noobasaurusrex
05:02 <spidey> xD
05:02 <damentz> heheh
05:03 <spidey> <Guo_Si> Hey, you know what sucks?
05:03 <spidey> <TheXPhial> vaccuums
05:03 <spidey> <Guo_Si> Hey, you know what sucks in a metaphorical sense?
05:03 <spidey> <TheXPhial> black holes
05:03 <spidey> <Guo_Si> Hey, you know what just isn't cool?
05:03 <spidey> <TheXPhial> lava?
05:04 <p4r0l3> damentz: lol
05:06 <GodTodd> i found luke's old online name...
05:06 <GodTodd> <Th3No0b> Im going to be the next hitler
05:06 <GodTodd> <Th3No0b> Im going to kill all the jews and 1 clown
05:06 <GodTodd> <RageAgainsttheAmish> why the clown
05:06 <GodTodd> <Th3No0b> See? no one cares about the jews
05:06 <GodTodd> <RageAgainsttheAmish> lmao
05:06 <spidey> LOL
05:07 <Your_mom_arma> heh
05:07 <spidey> <mage> what should I give sister for unzipping?
05:07 <spidey> <Kevyn> Um. Ten bucks?
05:07 <spidey> <mage> no I mean like, WinZip?
05:09 <GodTodd> <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
05:09 <spidey> <jeebus> the "bishop" came to our church today
05:09 <spidey> <jeebus> he was a fucken impostor
05:09 <spidey> <jeebus> never once moved diagonally
05:10 <GodTodd> <[TN]FBMachine> i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section
05:10 <GodTodd> baahahahah
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> hahaha
05:11 <spidey> LOL
05:13 <GodTodd> <studdud> what the fuck is wtf
05:13 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr, do you believe in dinosaurs
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> you guys reading bash.org?
05:14 <GodTodd> yeah
05:14 <GodTodd> any aussies here?
05:15 <spidey> <[TN]FBMachine> i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section
05:15 <spidey> hmm
05:15 <spidey> <[TN]FBMachine> i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> at least he didn't move them into the science fiction section
05:15 <spidey> wtf
05:15 <spidey> <Bleepy> hmm this isn't good... not good atall
05:15 <spidey> <Bleepy> i have an auto responder to my emails, and so does my friend i emailed, and umm it kept boucning, and now i have 17041 emails (16000 of which cannot be displayed)
05:15 <spidey> <Daishi> that waas you!?!
05:15 <spidey> there we go
05:16 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: ...
05:16 <GodTodd> <_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
05:16 <GodTodd> <foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
05:16 <GodTodd> <foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
05:16 <GodTodd> <foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
05:16 <GodTodd> <FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"
05:16 <spidey> <+Iceman> God I'm tired...I actually wrote "teh soldiers pwn Hitler" on a notecard for a research report...
05:16 <spidey> ^^^ lawl
05:17 <GodTodd> show this to clan people: <h|tler> HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU TELL THAT I'M 13 BY LOOKING AT WHAT I'M WRITEING?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
05:19 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr is that a no?
05:19 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: yes
05:19 <Luke-Jr> dinosaurs were (and arguably are) real
05:21 <DrJoeTron> hey
05:21 <spidey> no
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> <Blauw>If i die and i get reincarnated, i wish i was my girlfriends pussy
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> <Argy>Why?
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> <Blauw>Then i would be able to see all my friends again
05:21 <spidey> haha
05:22 <DrJoeTron> did they wear hats
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> <Slimano> You know the Paul McCartney song 'Mamunia'?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> <john|away> yea
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> <Slimano> I think mamunia in arabic is 'Peace'
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> <LLXerxes> No wonder I've never heard it before.
05:24 <spidey> <BlackHawk> LULU: I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got
05:24 <spidey> nothing to put in it.
05:24 <spidey> <LULU> You wear pants don't you?
05:24 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma i wanna change the name
05:25 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:25 <DrJoeTron> Bad Dudez
05:25 <DrJoeTron> Are you a bad enough dudez?
05:25 <Your_mom_arma> to rescue the president?
05:25 <DrJoeTron> AWWWWWWWWWWWW YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHH
05:26 <Your_mom_arma> is luke-jr catholic?
05:26 <GodTodd> <BombScare> i beat the internet
05:26 <GodTodd> <BombScare> the end guy is hard
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> < myren> feel like i'm gonna fucking die
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> < [mbm]> ?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> < Wonka> to die fucking would quite sure feel better...
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> < [mbm]> wouldn't want to be the partner
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> < [mbm]> I mean, do you finish?
05:27  * Lucifer_arma would
05:27 <GodTodd> <DmncAtrny> I will write on a huge cement block "BY ACCEPTING THIS BRICK THROUGH YOUR WINDOW, YOU ACCEPT IT AS IS AND AGREE TO MY DISCLAIMER OF ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AS WELL AS DISCLAIMERS OF ALL LIABILITY, DIRECT, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL, THAT MAY ARISE FROM THE INSTALLATION OF THIS BRICK INTO YOUR BUILDING."
05:27 <GodTodd> <DmncAtrny> And then hurl it through the window of a Sony officer
05:27 <GodTodd> <DmncAtrny> and run like hell
05:27 <spidey> wtf
05:27 <spidey> something crashed
05:27 <spidey> i hear the beeping noise
05:27 <spidey> but i see no errors
05:27 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: ... i know mbm I think
05:27 <spidey> and everything works
05:27 <Commn> haha
05:28 <GodTodd> spidey: maybe your computer is backing up?
05:28 <Commn> how many beeps?
05:28 <spidey> no it's beeps from the speakers
05:28 <spidey> not the tower
05:28 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:28 <spidey> it's like when a app crashes and you get that error
05:28 <spidey> but i don't see the error
05:28 <Commn> windows beep crashed ;p
05:28 <spidey> ahaah
05:28 <spidey> i found it
05:28 <GodTodd> <NHBoy> I broke my G-string while fingering a minor :(
05:28 <spidey> i ran out of memory
05:28 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:28 <spidey> wtf
05:29 <spidey> how tha hell am i out of memory when i have 1902mb uncluding virtual memory
05:29 <Your_mom_arma> howd you manage that
05:29 <spidey> not sure
05:29 <spidey> but i've got 70 errors lined up now
05:29 <spidey> xD
05:30 <Commn> defcon crashed but didnt exit
05:30 <Commn> just eating up memory
05:30 <Commn> what a leaky program
05:30 <spidey> no...
05:30 <Commn> ehe
05:30 <Commn> it did that to me ;p
05:30 <Your_mom_arma> yeah i've had that happen Commn
05:30 <spidey> ah there we go
05:30 <spidey> down to 172mb usage
05:30 <Commn> anyone up for some defcon?
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> t0rbad> so there i was in this hallway right
05:31 <spidey> i think i've murder europeans enough tonight
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05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> i believe i speak for all of us when i say...
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> WRONG BTICH
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> IM SICK OF YOU
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> AND YOUR LAME STORIES
05:31 <spidey> i've seen it
05:31 <spidey> xD
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> NOBODY  HERE THINKS YOURE FUNNY
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> NOBODY HERE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR STORIES
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> IN FACT
05:31 <spidey> he gets banned =p
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> IF YOU DIED RIGHT NOW
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> I  DON"T THINK NOBODY WOULD CARE
05:31 <GodTodd> (Mootar) morons.
05:31 <GodTodd> (Mootar) these people who live in my apartment complex are connected to my wireless
05:31 <GodTodd> (Mootar) they must think they're super-cool hackers by breaking into my completely unsecure network
05:31 <GodTodd> (Mootar) unfortunatly, the connection works both ways
05:31 <GodTodd> (Mootar) long story short, they now have loads of horse porn on their computer
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> BlackAdder> SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT FAG
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> *** t0rbad sets mode: +b BlackAdder*!*@*.*
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> *** BlackAdder has been kicked my t0rbad ( )
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> t0rbad> so there i was in this hallway right
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> CRCError> right
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> heartless> Right.
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> r3v> right
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, sorry, didn't realize it was that long
05:32 <Commn> bash.org is fun
05:32 <Commn> but those are old :)
05:32 <GodTodd> <Fulgore> whats the complement to a 43 degree angle?
05:32 <GodTodd> <sparks> My you're looking "acute" today
05:32 <GodTodd> <Fulgore> fuck you
05:33 <Commn> btw, anyone else feeling a slow internet?
05:34 <DrJoeTron> Whats it like to... whats it like to kill someone pete?
05:35 <DrJoeTron> It's kind of like, its kind of like playin' a basket ball game. I am there, and the other player is there, and its just the two of us, and i put the other player's body in my van. and i am the winner
05:36 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon?
05:36 <DrJoeTron> not commited enough
05:36 <DrJoeTron> tomaroow possibly
05:36 <spidey> :(
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://bash.org/?349567
05:38 <GodTodd> <Sigurd> a sprite is anything not static
05:38 <GodTodd> <SRElysian> a sprite is a variable object
05:38 <GodTodd> <SRElysian> be it 2d or 3d
05:38 <GodTodd> <TorMuck> a sprite is a fucking soda
05:38 <GodTodd> <TorMuck> you god damn geekass bastards
05:38 <Commn> spidey : want to play?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, I went through the most recent quotes and they were mostly sucky
05:38 <mkzelda> i might be down for some in a minute
05:39 <Commn> i think irc is dying :(
05:39 <mkzelda> well then i'll be the last one using it
05:39 <Commn> at least dalnet was huge back in the day, but its gone now
05:39 <mkzelda> dalnet was like 90% bots, spammers, etc
05:40 <Commn> i mean
05:40 <Commn> is anyone in here new to irc?
05:40 <Commn> e.g. 1 year or less of irc usage
05:40 <GodTodd> not i
05:40 <GodTodd> tho i used it mostly for work for about 3 years heh
05:40 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma arma?
05:40 <mkzelda> im approaching 10 yrs
05:40 <Commn> me too :)
05:41 <DrJoeTron> i am fairly new
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05:41 <Commn> 9 years and counting
05:41 <DrJoeTron> i've never had a use for it
05:41 <Commn> DrJoeTron : how long you been on irc?
05:41 <damentz> damn mesa drivers werent designed for aiglx
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://bash.org/?104383  <-- everyone's seen the mightiest sorceror of the lands quote, right?
05:41 <DrJoeTron> officially?
05:41 <DrJoeTron> 3 months
05:41 <Commn> DrJoeTron : rough estimate
05:41 <Commn> ah
05:41 <DrJoeTron> like ive dabbled in it
05:41 <DrJoeTron> when iwas huge in to snes roms
05:42 <DrJoeTron> but thats it
05:42 <Commn> Lucifer_arma : yes, bash is old, get something new already!
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> you hate old things?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> how old are you?
05:42 <Commn> i dont hate old things, just reruns are boring
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> then don't click the link, and shut the fuck up
05:43 <Commn> 21
05:43 <Commn> hahaha
05:43 <GodTodd> i guess you're officially old when old things don't bother you ;)
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05:44 <Commn> sorry, i should rephrase that
05:44 <Your_mom_arma> joe is groundpig around
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05:45 <Commn> Lucifer_arma : yes, i've seen bash, show me something i havent seen!
05:45 <Commn> http://thepartyparty.com/
05:45  * Lucifer_arma drops his pants
05:45 <Commn> hah, i bet you have no pants on to start with!
05:46 <GodTodd> <DigiGnome> Real life should have a fucking search function, or something.
05:46 <GodTodd> <DigiGnome> I need my socks.
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: no, you just can't ascend to True Adulthood as long as you insist that the world must always be new and fresh
05:46 <GodTodd> ahhh
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> coincidentally, only virgins think the world can always be new and fresh
05:46 <GodTodd> that could be it
05:46 <GodTodd> them and massengil
05:47 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron: is groundpig around?
05:47 <GodTodd> <Alanna> Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders
05:48 <mkzelda> Osama walks into a bar, and bush says "What'll ya have, partner?" Osama says "What are you offering today?" Bush says "Fear" and Osama says "Fear for everybody" and George pours it on for the crowd. The bartender asks "Who is buying?" and Osama points to the crowd and says "They are!"
05:49 <DrJoeTron> i saw him yesturday
05:49 <damentz> do you guys need a laugh?
05:49 <damentz> http://forum.vgcats.com/showthread.php?t=14075
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05:49 <damentz> these guys are decrypting this code, kthxbai specifically
05:49 <Your_mom_arma> i kicked trace(wpn) for cursing and he started lecturing me on how im a bad admin and he's gonna cry to groundpig
05:49 <Durka> uh oh luci its me again
05:50 <damentz> using the latest and greates ttechnology
05:50 <DrJoeTron> groundpig doesnt care
05:50  * Durka my mom?
05:50 <DrJoeTron> since pig says that we're in charge
05:50 <Your_mom_arma> Durka: ?
05:51 <Durka> your mom!!!!! hi
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> you'll kick someone for swearing?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> WHAT THE HOLY FUCKIN JESUS COCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
05:51  * Durka pokes Luci
05:51 <Your_mom_arma> Well if they manage to call "me" a fucking noob
05:51  * Durka vangaynus
05:51 <DrJoeTron> yeah
05:52 <DrJoeTron> kicking someone for swearing at someone is worth it
05:52 <DrJoeTron> i hate those clan biggots
05:52 <Commn> i dont get why there is a silence feature if no one uses it
05:52 <Durka> FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!
05:52 <Commn> i mean really ;p
05:52 <Commn> code bloat, remove it if you'd rather kick annoying people
05:52 <Commn> than silence them ;p
05:52 <Commn> then? than? something
05:53  * Durka silences Durka
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> just type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc
05:53  * Durka will type /quit
05:53  * Durka bye
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05:53 <Commn> /quit
05:53 <Commn> look he quit!
05:55 <Your_mom_arma> commn your right i dont use ignore properly... excuse a here
05:59 <GodTodd> <SRG> Metallica sold out in 45 mins :/
05:59 <GodTodd> <NotOneOfUs> Yeah I know.
05:59 <GodTodd> <NotOneOfUs> Oh wait
05:59 <GodTodd> <NotOneOfUs> You mean, like, a concert?
05:59 <GodTodd> <SRG> yes
06:00 <mkzelda> hehe classic
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06:06 <GodTodd> <@Terror> "It's easy to forget what a sin is in the middle of a battlefield."
06:06 <GodTodd> <@cky> opposite over hypotenuse
06:06 <GodTodd> <@cky> dipshit
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06:10 <GodTodd> <Meph|st0> Complaint : BOUGTH IT FOR MY COUSIN WHO HAD CANCER, ITEM NEVER ARRIVED AND MY COUSIN DIED
06:10 <GodTodd> <Meph|st0> thats the greatest ebay feedback i have ever seen
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06:13 <GodTodd> <XnD> Personally its not God I dislike, its his fan club I cant stand
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06:19 <DrJoeTron> ok
06:20 <DrJoeTron> so
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> That got blown way out of proportions
06:20 <groundpig> hi
06:20 <DrJoeTron> yeah no shit
06:20 <groundpig> i'm glad i wasn't there
06:20 <DrJoeTron> im not
06:20 <DrJoeTron> fucking christ man
06:21 <DrJoeTron> and of course IM always the bad guy
06:21 <groundpig> thats what makes you a good mod
06:21 <DrJoeTron> because i get nos respects
06:22 <DrJoeTron> mom told me that he kicked trace for being a jerk
06:22 <groundpig> you and mr. dangerfield
06:22 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:22 <DrJoeTron> i hopped on and saw him there
06:22 <DrJoeTron> i asked what happened
06:23 <DrJoeTron> trace of course gave me "I DIDNT DO ANYTHING ALL I SAID WAS NOOB AND TKER'S AND I WAS KICKED
06:23 <DrJoeTron> which that wasnt what mom told me
06:23 <Your_mom_arma> ugh
06:23 <Your_mom_arma> thats a lie
06:23 <DrJoeTron> so i told him "well if you're being a fucking jerk and swearing at others, you get kicked"
06:23 <DrJoeTron> of course its lie
06:23 <DrJoeTron> " u just called me a fucking jerk shouldnt you be kicked~!?"
06:24 <groundpig> hehe
06:24 <DrJoeTron> GAWD I HATE THESE FUCKING MODS
06:24 <groundpig> what fun i'm missing
06:24 <DrJoeTron> IM TALKING TO PIG ABOUT THIS IF YOU DONT STOP TALKING
06:24 <DrJoeTron> this was the same arguement for 15 minutes
06:24 <DrJoeTron> PIG WILL GET IT STRAIGHTENED OUT
06:24 <DrJoeTron> im telling you man
06:24 <groundpig> he apparantly doesn't know my hands off policy
06:25 <DrJoeTron> could you tell people it
06:25 <DrJoeTron> because we(mainly I) come off as the bad guy
06:25 <DrJoeTron> seriously
06:25 <DrJoeTron> its getting old super quick
06:25 <groundpig> i should put some text together
06:25 <DrJoeTron> please
06:25 <groundpig> what should it say?
06:25 <DrJoeTron> up to you
06:25 <DrJoeTron> i'm going to up my firewalls
06:26 <groundpig> literally, electronically, or psychologically?
06:26 <DrJoeTron> probably 3
06:26 <DrJoeTron> im gonna be fucked over some how soon i just know it
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> Well i guess i didnt have convince groundpig that im not an idiot after all
06:27 <groundpig> hmm, i haven't been worrying about that much
06:28 <DrJoeTron> you dont have to
06:28 <DrJoeTron> cause im the bad guy
06:28 <DrJoeTron> wait a minute
06:28 <DrJoeTron> im cool since im on a wireless card right?
06:28 <groundpig> mom's a mod, so by definition he can't be an idiot
06:29 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
06:29  * DrJoeTron paranoid joe has joined the channel
06:29 <groundpig> Lucifer_arma wants to drop the flag
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> hey pig, that capture the flag thing is cool
06:30 <groundpig> debating between brake and chatting "/drop"
06:30 <groundpig> hey, thanks
06:30 <groundpig> too bad my server bandwidth blows
06:31 <DrJoeTron> hey what should i do for my firewall
06:31 <groundpig> i want to see 16 player
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, 4 v 4 works pretty well
06:31 <DrJoeTron> hardware fire wall
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> 2 to attack, 1 to hold the base and 1 to protect the flag
06:31 <Your_mom_arma> i'll have to instachat /drop
06:31  * Lucifer_arma hopes his new internet connect will let him support more players on his server
06:32 <groundpig> well yeah, but you could do 4 v 4 v 4 v 4 then :B)
06:32 <groundpig> it should work with multiple teams, just haven't tried it yet
06:32 <DrJoeTron> ok im in "stealth mode"
06:32 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:32 <DrJoeTron> what ever the fuck that means
06:33 <Your_mom_arma> joe i dont think trace has the know how to hack your computer
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> it means that only Iraqis are prevented from seeing you
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you talking about trace() ?
06:33 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
06:33 <groundpig> yes, my server is finally empty!
06:34 <groundpig> ah just got an email from trace
06:34 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:35 <groundpig> its really long
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I had the password I'd make Joe look like a nice mod
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, er, nvm, maybe not
06:35  * Lucifer_arma recalls hiim and joe having big dick arguments over who was meanest to players
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> (and losing)
06:36 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:36 <DrJoeTron> oh oh post it
06:36 <groundpig> it won't get past my confidentiallity filter
06:37 <groundpig> all is well
06:37 <DrJoeTron> what
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> <DeeCee> they made white chocolate so little black kids could get messy too
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I want to say that remark is completely tasteless, but I just can't quite get it out
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> <Nor> i found my 1st grey pubic hair the other day :(
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> <Nor> It was in a BigMac
06:40 <Your_mom_arma> gross
06:42 <Your_mom_arma> <death09>my girlfriend broke up with me and sent me pix of her and her new boyfriend in bed
06:42 <Your_mom_arma> <ktp753>ouch.
06:42 <Your_mom_arma> <death09>yeah.i sent them to her dad
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> <Jakeoff> do MMORPGS even qualify as games?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> <PeterGriffin> No, they're more like a treadmills that makes you fatter
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06:45 <spidey> goddamn it's cold
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> <persia> my favorite country song is "i fucked my horse on a sunday morning"
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> <migg> my fave country song is "Its midnight in montana, and i cant get my dick out of this cow"
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> *** You were kicked by sandk1ng (i like the song "i kicked my friend for makin fun of music i listen to")
06:46 <spidey> #weather 38256
06:46 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 32.5°F (11:46 PM CDT on October 12, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa.  Freeze warning in effect until 8 am CDT Friday... 
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06:52 <DrJoeTron> still up for bad dudes?
06:52 <spidey> eh?
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't even gone in as dwh yet
06:53 <DrJoeTron> well im already an ass hole tonight
06:53 <DrJoeTron> i may as well go with it
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> dude, quit taking it so personally
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, being an asshole isn't so bad when you get right down to it
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> studies show that 8% of all men love assholes
06:54 <spidey> that sounded wrong
06:54 <DrJoeTron> but that means cocks like me
06:54 <DrJoeTron> and i dont like cocks
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm not reading any more bash.org, I'm starting to talk like it
06:54 <DrJoeTron> i need to stop fucking reading achewood 
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, that country song quote cracks me up
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> i can't stretch or anything
06:55 <spidey> #night
06:55 <armabot> Good night spidey!
06:56 <Your_mom_arma> lobster cage joe?
06:56 <DrJoeTron> sure
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, I was going to pig's server in a bit
06:56 <spidey> prawns!
06:56 <spidey> ok now sleep
07:07 <DrJoeTron> luci
07:07 <DrJoeTron> fer
07:07 <DrJoeTron> tna moment there
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> what?
07:07 <DrJoeTron> come to lobster cage
07:07 <DrJoeTron> its time for fun
07:07 <DrJoeTron> dwh
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> dam, game locked up
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> remind me that when the game locks up and I have to kill it, my settins aren't saved
07:10 <DrJoeTron> haha
07:11 <DrJoeTron> why was grid kid there
07:11 <DrJoeTron> i thought that was you for a second
07:12 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: synced my clock, but it wasn't off by a whole minute
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> HAHA
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> ER
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:16 <DrJoeTron> HAHAHA
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:16 <DrJoeTron> damn caps lock
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> y'all got kicked too?
07:17 <DrJoeTron> course
07:17 <DrJoeTron> haha they know its 7
07:17 <DrJoeTron> take tht
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> sty
07:18 <DrJoeTron> nah
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> no?
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> then I'm a change my name back and play there
07:18 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:18 <DrJoeTron> that would be better
07:18 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: note that nemo originally wrote the script, not me
07:18 <wrtlprnft> so don't tell everyone I wrote it x_X
07:18 <wrtlprnft> and he did the conversion thing
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> joe, you in sty right now?
07:19 <DrJoeTron> nope
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> better come :)
07:19 <DrJoeTron> are you both in there?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> I am, but under my regular name
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07:31 <Your_mom_arma> cya guys
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07:49 <GodTodd> <The_Kirbinator> 3000 mexicans dies yesterday........ 5 car pile-up on the I-10
07:49 <GodTodd> is it wrong to find that funny?
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08:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6226 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Removed some unused setting items from the server.
08:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6227 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tArray.cpp: Faster array allocated space growth for efficiency.
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09:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.baen.com/  <--- Jim Baen is dead
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13:08 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6228 /tools/svg2aamap/lib/svg2aamap/ (element.rb parser.rb): Renamed Element#inspect to Element#xml_inspect
13:12 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6229 /tools/svg2aamap/lib/svg2aamap/element.rb: fixed typo
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14:12 <spidey> #weather 38256
14:12 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 33.4°F (7:12 AM CDT on October 13, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect until 8 am CDT this morning... 
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14:59 <[NP]Tangent_> #weather 80120
14:59 <armabot> [NP]Tangent_: The current temperature in Southglenn, Centennial, Colorado is 32.5°F (7:00 AM MDT on October 13, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa.  Freeze warning in effect until 9 am MDT this morning... 
15:03 <Commn> #wunder 48152
15:03 <armabot> Commn: The current temperature in 8 Mile and Middlebelt, Farmington Hills, Michigan is 35.6°F (9:01 AM EDT on October 13, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 28.79 in 974.8 hPa. 
15:04 <Commn> #armaservers
15:04 <armabot> Commn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Strawberry Fields - BACKUP-SERVER (9 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server - Low Rubber (5 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (4 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight (3 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (2 (1 more message)
15:04 <GodTodd> #wunder 75023
15:04 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 46.6°F (8:05 AM CDT on October 13, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa. 
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16:44 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: got any idea how I could easily hook my coordinate conversion into the subclasses of Element without changing them all?
16:46 <nemostultae> Every coordinate pair goes through AAMapBuilderHelper#point, so you could hook it up there.
16:47 <wrtlprnft> true
16:48 <wrtlprnft> why do you need that helper anyways?
16:49 <nemostultae> hmm, because it is easier than typing it out and cuts down on duplication?
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16:50 <wrtlprnft> it's used in multiple places?
16:50 <nemostultae> I use it explicitly in CircleElement, and #points uses it too
16:51 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
16:52 <nemostultae> Can you just hook it up at start_tag and end_tag in the parser?
16:52 <nemostultae> That is where it was before, right?
16:52 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i will
16:52 <wrtlprnft> and i'll add a method to the helper that gets called from start_tag to set the current transformation matric
16:52 <wrtlprnft> *matrix
16:53 <wrtlprnft> and i'll have the parser keep the MatrixStack object
16:53 <wrtlprnft> before the Map class had it
18:35 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron
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18:42 <GodTodd> fucking time warner
18:47 <wrtlprnft> freaking all-reference mentality in ruby!
18:52 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@adsl-70-128-250-252.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
19:01 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: is there a way to get a copy of a variable, not a reference? So that if i store it as a member of an object and it gets manipulated from the outside it stays the same?
19:05 <nemostultae> variable.dup
19:06 <wrtlprnft> ty
19:07 <wrtlprnft> the tutorial i have doesn't even mention references at all
19:15 <Commn> spidey :before and after, a noob left right as i went realtime, i used my fighters to stop nukes :) http://files.myopera.com/compn//albums/146956/before-orders.jpg  and after: http://files.myopera.com/compn//albums/146956/after-orders-no-deaths.jpg
20:33 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, Freeciv 1tpd?
20:36 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
20:36 <madmax|pt> hello
20:36 <Commn> #armaservers
20:36 <armabot> Commn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (9 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || °¯ps arena (5 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Multi-Fortress Server (3 players) || .Tronners|.in|.Pyjamas|.High-rubber|TiP-Clan.De.ms (3 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (3 players) || Strawberry Fields - BACKUP- (1 more message)
20:36 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: 1tpd?
20:36 <wrtlprnft> i
20:37 <wrtlprnft> i'll probably suck, but let's try anyways
20:37 <wrtlprnft> what server?
20:38 <luke-jr_work> 1-turn-per-day
20:38 <luke-jr_work> I'm registering players
20:38 <wrtlprnft> oh
20:38 <wrtlprnft> means i have to stay connected to the server all the time?
20:39 <luke-jr_work> no
20:39 <luke-jr_work> connect, take the turn, disconnect
20:40 <wrtlprnft> connect, hijack another player, do some bs, disconnect :P
20:49 <wrtlprnft> wtf!
20:49 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034247109.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
20:49 <wrtlprnft> ruby can't read someVar -4
20:50 <wrtlprnft> it insists on someVar - 4, including the space
20:51 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (7 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Multi-Fortress Server (6 players) || °¯ps arena (6 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (5 players) || MicroBusCity.com (3 (1 more message)
20:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v multi-fortress
20:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Multi-Fortress Server (217.160.216.122:4537) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, Description: “Fortress server.“, Players (7/16): CT|P4, Kamakazi, LoD|Ady, Obitibo, player "2", Sp@@dN3k, Zop
20:54 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, no hijack -.-
20:54  * luke-jr_work wonders if he needs to hack the code to block such
20:55  * wrtlprnft also notes that the beginning of the game would be real boring
21:02 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6230 /tools/svg2aamap/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Merged my matrix code back.
21:02 <wrtlprnft> finally
21:02 <wrtlprnft> that was an annoying one. I had very weird bugs
21:05 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, so you want to play? :)
21:05 <wrtlprnft> sure
21:05 <luke-jr_work> ok
21:06 <luke-jr_work> username "wrtlprnft" ok?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> and in like 5 years we'll be done
21:06 <luke-jr_work> 1 year
21:06 <wrtlprnft> /team Sure.
21:16 <Vanhayes> play what?
21:17 <Vanhayes> that one turn a day freeciv thing?
21:19 <luke-jr_work> yes
21:19 <luke-jr_work> you in?
21:20 <Vanhayes> hmm, when is it?
21:20 <luke-jr_work> starting later today or tomorrow
21:20 <luke-jr_work> creating players now
21:20 <Vanhayes> and I can make my turn anytime or only certain times a day?
21:23 <luke-jr_work> any time of the da
21:23 <luke-jr_work> y
21:23 <Vanhayes> ya sure im in then
21:23 <Vanhayes> ill be canada if it isnt taken
21:26 <luke-jr_work> I don't know that we can pick countries
21:26 <luke-jr_work> since we might not be present when the game starts
21:27 <luke-jr_work> and wrtl points out that I need to block /take and /obs other people
21:29 <Vanhayes> heh, true you could just take over someone and see what they were doing
21:30 <luke-jr_work> it'll be easy to block
21:30 <luke-jr_work> just a simple strcmp
21:30 <luke-jr_work> need to prevent /firstlevel too
21:31 <Vanhayes> hmm, whats that do?
21:31 <luke-jr_work> votes pass after 1 full turn, so it should be ok
21:31 <luke-jr_work> firstlevel lets you bypass a vote
21:31 <Vanhayes> ok
21:31 <luke-jr_work> usable only by one person at a time
21:31 <Vanhayes> so who's all playing?
21:31 <luke-jr_work> so far, some n00b, wrtl, you and I
21:31 <luke-jr_work> and some people from other IRC chans
21:31 <luke-jr_work> possibly Luci
21:32 <luke-jr_work> dunno on spidey , GodTodd , etc
21:32 <luke-jr_work> dunno w/ mom either
21:35 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd seemed like he was planning to, but I didn't get a for-sure confirmation
21:45 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
21:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 54 seconds old; #, +lil+, +optimus prime+, -=}ID< (>'')>, -=}IÃ; Hypnotic, <<Gaby>>, =]bm[= -icke-, =]bm[= timmy, ={S}={Flame}=, >3D> TaLaL, >>Silver Dove>>, Aphex, arilou, aspire, Baphomet, beth, ChuckNorris?, Cipolla, Commander, Crystal|D, CT|P4, DemonEyesKyo, digital.pardoe, Druuna, E= Nightmare, FREE KILL!, FUBAR, Grauer Pilger, Gundamx, H8F8, hat0x999999ed, help im a bug, illovae, ivan, (2 more messages)
21:46 <Vanhayes> #more
21:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: JackSkratch, Jon, jonas>>>, Kamakazi, Kamikaze, Kylian#(NL), Luzifer, Marth, Migue_Terry, Mjauy, Noir, old dave, OLF, OLLILEIN, oLo&Tommy&Manko, Player 1, Police, poooooopy, pro-Gamers.ATI, Rav, robbie, Ryuran, SageLord, Shippo1197, Simon, STEALTH SHADOW, stewie_griffen, Teatime, Th3|Fr34k, tobiwan, Vesper, you need help!, [=K=] Omoi, [LJV] BloW, [LJV] Caroline, [mho]ese.ai, _`´OaBlOX`´^, |AST| legendary, (1 more message)
21:46 <Vanhayes> #more
21:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: |eX|Bluerajden, ~!*NB*!~JDawg, ~"XzL.preSSure, ~*Sp*~ D3M0N, ~HSID~Anti-Hero, ~HSID~cookiee, ~pAul~, ~{GP}~dreher, ~|DS|~|Slash|~, ~}Dreamw0rks{~, ~}Gir{~, §NT3X, ®^¨¥­, °°Gay-Lin, °°¯ 3dot °¯°Me
21:47 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails wild
21:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (8/14): #, +lil+, FREE KILL!, Marth, Player 1, Rav, Ryuran, °°¯ 3dot °¯°	Me
21:47 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v wild
21:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (85.10.211.185:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, Description: “There's like all these weird maps, man.“, Players (8/14): #, +lil+, FREE KILL!, Marth, Player 1, Rav, Ryuran, °°¯ 3dot °¯°	Me
21:49 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v wild
21:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (85.10.211.185:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, Description: “There's like all these weird maps, man.“, Players (9/14): #, +lil+, FREE KILL!, Gilgamesh, Marth, Player 1, Rav, Ryuran, °°¯ 3dot °¯°	Me
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22:51 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: i'll take bavaria
22:51 -!- Warunix [n=Warunix@Toronto-HSE-ppp3706559.sympatico.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:51 <Warunix> Hello!
22:52 <wrtlprnft> hi
22:52 <Warunix> how's it going?
22:52 <wrtlprnft> well, fine
22:52 <Warunix> I was hoping someone could help me out with a armagetron server.
22:52 <wrtlprnft> what's not working?
22:52 <Warunix> Port forwarding.    
22:53 <Warunix> I have the server installed on Ubuntu 6.06 / 192.168.1.120
22:53 <wrtlprnft> did you make sure you're forwarding UDP and not TCP?
22:53 <wrtlprnft> and forwarding port
22:53 <Warunix> Yup
22:53 <Warunix> UDP
22:53 <Warunix> not TCP
22:53 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, ???
22:53 <wrtlprnft> 2534
22:53 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: freeciv
22:53 <wrtlprnft> *4534
22:53 <Warunix> lol, that's better.
22:54 <wrtlprnft> sorry, kinda tired
22:54 <Warunix> Yes,   4535/udp is set to foward from 5t3v3.homelinux.net (my DynDNS/router) to the internal Ubuntu server 192.168.1.120
22:54 <wrtlprnft> sec, lemme try to connect
22:54 <Warunix> Thanks!!!
22:55 <wrtlprnft> works
22:55 <Warunix> what!!!?!?
22:55 <Warunix> holy crap.
22:55 <Warunix> let me try...
22:55 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, like I said, I don't know if we cna pick country
22:55 <wrtlprnft> nice bot names
22:55 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: oh
22:56 <wrtlprnft> i just saw that Vanhayes said he preferred canada, so…
22:56 <wrtlprnft> Warunix: nice bot names btw
22:57 <Warunix> thanks
22:57 <Warunix> Ok...now I'm confused.   No one could connect last night.
22:57 <Warunix> They all recieved Server Does No Answer
22:58 <Warunix> received*
22:58 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:58 <Warunix> I haven't restarted the server since last night.    I guess you are the first one to connect! :)
22:58 <wrtlprnft> yeah, 1 of 1 on the ladder
22:58 <wrtlprnft> though your server doesn't seem to be on the master list
22:59 <Warunix> are you on my server now?
22:59 <Warunix> Nope,  Private for now.  I'll make is public maybe later.
22:59 <wrtlprnft> was until a few seconds ago
22:59 <wrtlprnft> will rejoin in a minute
22:59 <Warunix> Ok.   I'll join now to see.
22:59 <wrtlprnft> am now
23:00 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, Vanhayes, I think you can pick country if you're there for the game start
23:01 <luke-jr_work> Warunix, wanna play Freeciv 1dpt
23:01 <luke-jr_work> ?
23:01 <Vanhayes> dont you set it up?
23:01 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, not if you're not connected
23:01 <Vanhayes> so we all have to be on at the same time to start?
23:02 <luke-jr_work> no
23:02 <Vanhayes> cause if you pick the names you pick the country
23:02 <luke-jr_work> only if you want to pick the country
23:02 <luke-jr_work> no, I just pick names
23:02 <Vanhayes> hows that work?
23:02 <luke-jr_work> I create a named AI and you /take it
23:02 <Warunix> Thanks wrtlprnft!
23:02 <wrtlprnft> yw, again :)
23:03 <Warunix> I'll give you credit on my gaming site for help me out:  http://5t3v3.homelinux.net
23:03 <Vanhayes> so you make an ai that isnt in the game yet?
23:03 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: just connect to your server with lots of clients at once and create the players
23:03 <Warunix> btw, how did you like the gameplay?   Should I tweak it for faster speeds?
23:03 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, what's wrong with the way I'm doing to it? =p
23:03 <wrtlprnft> thanks, though not necessary
23:03 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, I make an AI that is in the game, before the game starts
23:04 <Warunix> wrtlprnft:   Thanks again.
23:04 <luke-jr_work> is country really so important? ;p
23:05 <Vanhayes> well you might end up with a crappy one, like america :)
23:05 <wrtlprnft> though “a tron clone in 3d” isn't that accurate anymore
23:05 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, it's only as crappy as you make it
23:05 <luke-jr_work> =p
23:05 <Vanhayes> hmm isnt it simulated 3d too?
23:05 <wrtlprnft> i don't wanna end up as america or iraq
23:06 <luke-jr_work> heh
23:09 <wrtlprnft> Warunix: are you actually supposed to find the hidden link in the bottom-right corner of that big header image or is it supposed to be somewhere else ;)
23:10 <wrtlprnft> oh, nwm, found the explanation in the source
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23:14 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: why does it say 30 people in one of your freeciv servers, but no one actually in it?
23:14 <Vanhayes> one of your longterm ones?
23:18 <luke-jr_work> I only have a single longterm one
23:19 <luke-jr_work> it says 30 because somebody started a game w/ 30 players
23:19 <luke-jr_work> 29 of which appear to be AI
23:19 <luke-jr_work>  /list
23:20 <luke-jr_work> that's on my non-longterm one btw
23:20 <luke-jr_work> long-term one shows 4 confirmed players
23:20 <Vanhayes> am i one of those?
23:23 <luke-jr_work> yes
23:26 -!- rgg [n=rgg@200-161-136-227.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #armagetron
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23:37 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
23:37 <armabot> madmax|pt: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
23:39 <Van-hayes> #armaservers
23:39 <armabot> Van-hayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
23:39 <Van-hayes> #onlineplayers
23:39 <armabot> Van-hayes: This data is 9 seconds old; -(SP)- Hideki, -=}ID< (>'')>, -=}ID<Killer, -=}Ãê °Rømëï, <~Omniscient~>, Angel, Axel, Chaez, Chaez, chewy8126, Chris, Cmace, Cmace, crupous, CTxChiCho, Curry, da real shiznit, Daniel, Dr.$, Erathia, garispyder, GayDragon, Gerard, Glowstix, Glowstix, Grimm Reaper, help im a bug, Infamous, Jim, Jim, jose"sp", k1lleR, king, Lemonlime, Loco, LoD|Ady-Lucifer, Maakasu ***, (2 more messages)
23:39 <Van-hayes> #more
23:39 <armabot> Van-hayes: matarkin, Mekugi, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Naiala, newbÃe, Nil, niro, Nizzel, Noobie, Ogre Battle, Palatinum, Perdio, pixel, PPAAUULL, raton, red0xffffffdick, Rikuma, riley, Rumsi, snail, SPIDER, STEALTH SHADOW, Stonys_Leet., STREETWISE, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, Tommy, Tribun, UbErNoOb, Wiggins, XCS_TubE, XCS_TubE, [Dömer], [x1337x], ^NB^<)cHEzE(>, {WPN} Pyr0TeK, |AST| }{Alex}{, |HC| ARBOL, |[AJ]|amaroK, ~, ~!*NB*!~JDawg, (1 more message)
23:39 <Van-hayes> #more
23:39 <armabot> Van-hayes: ~!*NB*!~Skratch, ~!*NB*!~XxX957, ~"XzL.preSSure, ~K~defiance, ~[Wing]~Motor, ~{GP}~Z~Speed~, ~}SD{~DaRkAnGeL, ~}SD{~Smart, ¡ªWPN»!, ¯VPN¯G5, °¯litchii, °¯Manta, °°qain
23:39 <Van-hayes> #serverdetails lords
23:39 <armabot> Van-hayes: -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Multi-Fortress Server: Players (9/16): CTxChiCho, help im a bug, Infamous, jose"sp", LoD|Ady-Lucifer, newbÎe, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, |AST| }{Alex}{, ¯VPN¯G5
23:39 <Van-hayes> #serverdetails fortress
23:39 <armabot> Van-hayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (13/14): -=}ID<Killer, <~Omniscient~>, Axel, Dr.$, Gerard, Mekugi, niro, Ogre Battle, Perdio, pixel, [Dömer], {WPN} Pyr0TeK, ~{GP}~Z~Speed~
23:40 <Van-hayes> #serverdetails sty
23:40 <armabot> Van-hayes: Capture The Flag Sty: Players (8/8): -=}ID< (>'')>, chewy8126, garispyder, Grimm Reaper, Lemonlime, SPIDER, UbErNoOb, Wiggins
23:40 <luke-jr_work> ... don't tell me there's a VPN *clan* now?
23:41 <GodTodd> i'm waiting for a DWC clan
23:43 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd, are you planning to play?
23:44 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034247109.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
23:45 <GodTodd> i can give it a shot, sure
23:45 <luke-jr_work> k
23:45 -!- nemostultae [n=[dlh]@a0204.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit []
23:46 -!- Warunix [n=Warunix@Toronto-HSE-ppp3706559.sympatico.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:46 <Warunix> Hello
23:46 <Warunix> wrtlprnft, are you still there?
23:50 -!- rgg [n=rgg@200-161-136-227.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:51 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd, Van-hayes wrtlprnft PM
23:51 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
23:51 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
23:52 <ghableska> hello
23:52 <luke-jr_work> ghableska, hi
23:52 <luke-jr_work> ghableska, want to play 1dpt freeciv?:
23:52 <ghableska> nah
23:52 <Vanhayes> heh, ever try freeciv ghab?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> ghableska, you won't get another chance till this time 2007
23:53 <ghableska> nope, but after hearing you talk about it, I think I might want to stay away from it...
23:53 <ghableska> luke-jr_work: why?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> ghableska, that's about when this game will end
23:54 <ghableska> ok, probably not then :P
23:54 <Vanhayes> its a one turn a day game
23:54 <Vanhayes> well this one is
23:54 <luke-jr_work> we don't have time to spend hours on end playing, so we're spreading the 12+ hours over the period of a year =p
23:54 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: is it timed, or turn based?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, ?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, timeout 86400
23:55 <Vanhayes> ah nvrm, so if we all are on we can all play
23:55 -!- Warunix [n=Warunix@Toronto-HSE-ppp3706559.sympatico.ca] has left #armagetron []
23:55 <Vanhayes> so more than once a day if we wanted
23:55 <luke-jr_work> I suppose
23:56 <luke-jr_work> as long as nobody changes the timeout
23:56 <ghableska> lol
23:56 <Vanhayes> ya

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