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Log from 2006-10-11:
--- Day changed Wed Oct 11 2006
00:00 <Your_mom_arma> there about would server think should right really could something
00:00 <Your_mom_arma> bwahaha
00:00 <luke-jr_work> just set your server's chat room to armagetron%irc.freenode.net@irc.nedbsd.org
00:00 <luke-jr_work> =p
00:04 <Commn> #armaservers
00:04 <armabot> Commn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (11 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (10 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (8 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || ~}Six ~}Dragons{~ Server{~ (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || (1 more message)
00:05 <Vanhayes> #more Commn 
00:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (4 players) || ed's highly experimental mayhem (2 players) || Palatinum's Place (2 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (2 players) || MicroBusCity.com (1 players)
00:05 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails z-man
00:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress: Players (14/16): -|ct|- play, flea|DpG|, free kill, Lackadaisical, Luck, madmax, niro, Sticky, UC_Szeraax, Vanhayes, WebGamer, |AST| }{Alex}{, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, °°kitchii
00:17 <spidey> fuck
00:17 <spidey> man
00:18 <spidey> tearing the pourch off a 100
00:18 <spidey> +
00:18 <spidey> year old house
00:18 <spidey> isn't easy
00:18 <spidey> oak that old is fucking HARD
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:21 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:22 <spidey> MaZuffeR, 
00:23 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50870FFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:23 <spidey> you have a pm on the forums
00:23 <MaZuffeR> ok
00:23 <luke-jr_work> oooh
00:23 <luke-jr_work> do I get a PM too in forums???
00:24 <luke-jr_work> spidey, come play the game
00:24 <luke-jr_work> just for like 30 min
00:29 <MaZuffeR> spidey, pm
00:30 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"]
00:33 <luke-jr_work> spidey, spidey spidey spidey 
00:33 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
00:38 <Vanhayes> lastseen somera
00:38 <Vanhayes> #lastseen somera
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: somerandomguy seems to be on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress right now.
00:38 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, ...
00:38 <Vanhayes> ..... luke-jr_work 
00:38 <luke-jr_work> how about we TRY a long-term game? ;)
00:47 -!- Comsn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
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00:49 <Vanhayes> hmm, luke-jr_work any new maps?
00:49 <luke-jr_work> um
00:49 <luke-jr_work> sure
00:49 <luke-jr_work> the randomly made ones...
00:49 <Vanhayes> ... meant the others
00:52 <Your_mom_arma> noone wanted to be on my team : (
00:55 <Vanhayes> its cause you were player 1
00:55 <Your_mom_arma> we did fairly well undermanned though
01:00 <Vanhayes> ya, it was pretty close and we had 2 more people for most of that match
01:00 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, how about we TRY a long-term game? ;)
01:00 <Vanhayes> hmmmmmmmmmm
01:02 <Your_mom_arma> 1 hour a pop?
01:03 <Vanhayes> ya, id be ok with that
01:03 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: ya ok, start now, stop and save in an hour?
01:05 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: 
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:05 <armabot> pong
01:08 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, I'm leaving now =p
01:08 <Vanhayes> lame
01:08 <luke-jr_work> maybe later we can start
01:08 <Vanhayes> your a tease
01:08 <Vanhayes> finally covince me to play then you leave
01:08 <luke-jr_work> maybe /set timeout 86400 and do a turn at least once a day
01:08 <luke-jr_work> hey, you had 1.5 hrs =p
01:09 <luke-jr_work> ok, fine
01:09 <luke-jr_work> um
01:09 <luke-jr_work> actually
01:09 <luke-jr_work> here's what we'll do
01:09 <luke-jr_work> everyone who wants to play email luke_freeciv@dashjr.org and tell me so =p
01:09 <luke-jr_work> need to give everyone a good chance to join
01:09 <Vanhayes> ok
01:09 <luke-jr_work> and when I get back, I'll see who's playing and such
01:10 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@2002:4335:4375:0:20d:60ff:fe60:756a] has quit ["Leaving"]
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> im totally not emailing him to rsvp a slot in a freeciv game
01:14 <Vanhayes> ya, seeing as I dont care about freeciv that much ill just wait untill he asks some other day
01:20 <Vanhayes> #night
01:20 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
01:21 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034198033.nb.aliant.net] has quit [""Quitted""]
01:21 <madmax|pt> Man, these player 1s are good :P
01:22 <Your_mom_arma> which ones?
01:23 <MaZuffeR> Alex figured out who the random guy was in just three rounds O.o
01:29 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-174-91.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Excess Flood]
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01:30 <Your_mom_arma> random guy?
01:31 <MaZuffeR> somerandomguy, it was me
01:33 <madmax|pt> hmm, i thought it was lack or you, since lack had left IRC...
01:33 <madmax|pt> wasnt sure though ><
01:33 <Your_mom_arma> where you vangaynus 5 as well?
01:33 <MaZuffeR> that was omega
01:34 <Your_mom_arma> im no good at guessing whos who
01:45 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["-"]
02:03 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
02:03 <armabot> pong
02:15 <madmax|pt> is there a command to reduce the size of the zone markings?
02:19 <Your_mom_arma> not really
02:57 <madmax|pt> when riding in the edge of the zones those things get in the way a lot
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03:12 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has quit ["gnigh"]
03:28 <spidey> ciykd naje then ckear
03:28 <spidey> wow
03:28 <spidey> i need to turn the lights on
03:28 <spidey> anyways "could make them clear"
03:53 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-203-231.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
03:53 <DrJoeTron> smaller than usual today
03:57 <DrJoeTron> you guys hear about hans reiser?
03:57 <DrJoeTron> being prosicuted for the murder of his wife
04:06 -!- Nixda709 [n=cb92f74e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
04:06 <Nixda709> hi
04:06 <Nixda709> morning
04:06 <Nixda709> ei ei ei ei 
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04:16 <Your_mom_arma> so 14 people has to be the least people in this irc room i've seen
04:17 <Luke-Jr> ...
04:17 <Luke-Jr> spidey: Your_mom_arma you gonna play long-term civ?
04:17 <DrJoeTron> yeah i just said that
04:19 <Your_mom_arma> not right now Luke-Jr
04:19 <DrJoeTron> oops
04:19 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: that's what long-term is
04:20 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: 1 turn per day (at least)
04:20 <Luke-Jr> eg, timeout 86400
04:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey we gotta try 8 hour defcon one day
04:21 <Your_mom_arma> im not doing a game with 3000+turns on a per day basis
04:21 <Luke-Jr> um
04:21 <Luke-Jr> Freeciv games never have near 1000
04:21 <Luke-Jr> most I've seen is 350ish
04:22 <Luke-Jr> and just cuz timeout 86400 doesn't mean we won't get 2 or 3 turns in some days
04:22 <Your_mom_arma> so its only gonna take a half a year?
04:22 <Your_mom_arma> 'only' lol
04:22 <Luke-Jr> yeah
04:25 <Luke-Jr> you don't plan to be around in a year?
04:26 <DrJoeTron> sweet
04:26 <DrJoeTron> sounds like a quickie
04:26 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma did you catch VB?
04:26 <Your_mom_arma> vb?
04:26 <DrJoeTron> venture bros
04:26 <Comsn> vb rocks
04:27 <DrJoeTron> i love that show so much
04:27 <Your_mom_arma> the last one i saw was a to be continued wedding episode
04:27 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:27 <DrJoeTron> that was it
04:27 <DrJoeTron> jesus christ they were pressed on time
04:42 <Luke-Jr> who here uses reiserfs??
04:42 <Luke-Jr> guess what's up with its author
04:51 <Your_mom_arma> just tell us
04:51 <Luke-Jr> he allegedly killed his wife
04:51 <Luke-Jr> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/10/11/0142216.shtml
04:59 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: so you playing?
05:00 <Luke-Jr> or trying it anyway
05:04 <Your_mom_arma> your asking me if im up for a game that may take half a year?
05:05 <Luke-Jr> yeah
05:05 <Luke-Jr> I think it's worth a try
05:14 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
05:14 <Legit> hey luke u here?
05:15 <DrJoeTron> nop
05:15 <DrJoeTron> take a number
05:15 <Legit> where do i egt them?
05:17 <Your_mom_arma> joes selling them for a quarter a pop
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> What's the difference between O.J. and Hans Reiser?
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> Hans kept a journal.
05:18 <Luke-Jr> Legit: 
05:18 <Legit> can u amke a chat ?
05:19 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:20 <Legit> go to armalukechat
05:23 <DrJoeTron> its a nickel
05:23 <DrJoeTron> for a number
05:23 <DrJoeTron> the lower you want for a number
05:23 <DrJoeTron> the more nickels
05:24 <DrJoeTron> number 15 is about a sandwich bag full
05:29 <DrJoeTron> fucking hans
05:29 <DrJoeTron> luke i beat you to it :d
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05:47 <Luke-Jr> <pfred1> see now if the cops ran LInux and ever used ReiserFS they'd know just how easy it is to lose sutff even your wife!
05:47 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: freeciv
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06:09 <Self_Destructo> Luke-Jr: What about it?
06:10 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: want to play in a long-term game?
06:12 <Your_mom_arma> "Your_mom_arma: your asking me if im up for a game that may take half a year?"
06:13 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: I answered, you didn't
06:15  * DrJoeTron yawn
06:18 <Your_mom_arma> aww we got ripped off
06:18 <DrJoeTron> its full
06:18 <DrJoeTron> :/.
06:18 <DrJoeTron> we keep trying
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> im gonna keep the name 
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> at least for some of tommorow
06:20 <DrJoeTron> haha me i will too
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> i know
06:20 <DrJoeTron> lets go to a different server
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> wpn fortress
06:20 <DrJoeTron> deal
06:21 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: ...
06:21 <Self_Destructo> Luke-Jr: I completely suck at Freeciv
06:21 <Your_mom_arma> its a rhetorical question because its so rediculous
06:24 <Your_mom_arma> im gonna cry
06:26 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: ...
06:26 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: practice? =p
06:26 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: so you in?
06:27 <Luke-Jr> got 4 people interested thus far
06:29 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: plenty of time in a year to improve
06:32 <Your_mom_arma> hahaha
06:32 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: ... you in??
06:32 <Luke-Jr> planning to start Fri or Say
06:32 <Luke-Jr> Sat*
06:34 <DrJoeTron> this is as fun as the first day i played
06:37 <DrJoeTron> we have every right to be shot
06:40 <Self_Destructo> Luke-Jr: I play enough games as is
06:41 <Self_Destructo> I need to get rid of a couple, but no, I think I'm going to get Half-Life 2
06:41 <Self_Destructo> :)
06:43 <Luke-Jr> ...
06:43 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: just 1 turn a day
06:43 <Luke-Jr> not much time =p
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06:58 <DrJoeTron> take that mother fuckers!
06:58 <Luke-Jr> ...
06:59 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: hey
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> ohhh
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> kicked
06:59 <DrJoeTron> hahaha!~
06:59 <DrJoeTron> we fucking rocked them
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> rock you like a hurricane
06:59 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: you plan to play?
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> that was hillarius
06:59 <DrJoeTron> oh man
06:59 <DrJoeTron> tthe url
06:59 <DrJoeTron> they tried going to it
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> zi thought my chest was gonna break open
07:00 <DrJoeTron> i woke up my brother
07:00 <Your_mom_arma> i was laughing that hard
07:00 <DrJoeTron> holy fuck
07:00 <DrJoeTron> i suck at fortress
07:00 <DrJoeTron> and sumo
07:00 <DrJoeTron> and yet
07:00 <DrJoeTron> wow
07:00 <DrJoeTron> im glad Lucifer_arma  was there
07:00 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:00 <DrJoeTron> they didnt like the HURRRR!
07:00 <Your_mom_arma> they sure cant take trash talk
07:01 <DrJoeTron> or losing
07:01 <DrJoeTron> "nah lets go someplace else
07:01 <DrJoeTron> uh...ok
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> who, what?
07:01 <DrJoeTron> dinosaurs with hats
07:01 <DrJoeTron> should i make a site?
07:01 <Your_mom_arma> no
07:01 <DrJoeTron> or is that a bit much
07:01 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> ah, no memory leak
07:02 <Your_mom_arma> that was the best
07:02 <Your_mom_arma> all wpn did was complain
07:02 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: planning a long-term civ game, you in?
07:02 <DrJoeTron> that was amazing
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> nah, got a test tomorrow
07:02 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: starting Fri/Sat
07:02 <DrJoeTron> i mean they have like one pattern
07:02 <Luke-Jr> 1 turn per day
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> 1 turn per day?!?  It'll take years just to get out of the bronze age!
07:03 <DrJoeTron> that teamfortress is what killed them
07:03 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: actually, the longest game on my server has been about 350 turns
07:03 <DrJoeTron> i would have died so fast
07:03 <DrJoeTron> wanna go someplace else?
07:03 <Your_mom_arma> i wanna go in to see if im banned but im afraid what i'll find
07:04 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: anyway, no commitment really, we can always just give up if it gets boring =p
07:04 <DrJoeTron> yeah we're banned
07:04 <DrJoeTron> 60 minutes
07:04 <Your_mom_arma> how long
07:04 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:04 <Your_mom_arma> well worth it
07:04 <DrJoeTron> totally
07:05 <DrJoeTron> i guess they arent fans of the nuge
07:05 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, you were the guys playing on the WPN server?
07:05 <DrJoeTron> yeah
07:06 <DrJoeTron> i mean
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:06 <DrJoeTron> uh
07:06 <DrJoeTron> maybe
07:06 <DrJoeTron> it is a mystery
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:06 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: so you want to get on the player list?
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: don't know, ask me again in a couple of days :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> hw are you planning on handling the 1 turn per day part?  Everybody starts their clients and joins the server and plays a turn?
07:07 <DrJoeTron> wanna go to another server?
07:07 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: well, only 1 full day before Fri =p
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to the AST server in a bit, after I get a playlist
07:07 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: /set timeout 86400
07:07 <DrJoeTron> i feel like celebrating
07:07 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:07 <Luke-Jr> players can decide whether to leave theirr client open or not =p
07:08 <Your_mom_arma> im going to bed right now so i can end the day on this high note
07:08 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you're short some players I might jump in
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you guys gotta tell us what happened
07:08 <DrJoeTron> god damn
07:08 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:08 <DrJoeTron> that was so rich
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> like, why were you having that battle in the first place?
07:08 <DrJoeTron> wanna go back tommarow?
07:08 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: probably will start with some AIs, but missing a day or 2 can't hurt too much here and there
07:08 <Your_mom_arma> nah i dont want any permanent bans
07:08 <DrJoeTron> you wanna tell him ma?
07:09 <Your_mom_arma> joe tell luci, im going to bed haha
07:09 <DrJoeTron> haha ok
07:09 <Your_mom_arma> cya guys
07:09 <DrJoeTron> see ya
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07:09 <Lucifer_arma> soooo......?
07:09 <Luke-Jr> ?
07:09  * Lucifer_arma notes xmms doesn't take long to compile...
07:09 <DrJoeTron> ok so we're talking about radical named teams and how if i ever started a clan it would be "Dinosaurs with hats" and it would be 
07:09  * Luke-Jr notes XMMS is GTK1
07:10 <DrJoeTron> the most ferocious clan ever and would shout annoying extreeme things
07:10  * Lucifer_arma notes he could just write up a playlist builder
07:10 <Luke-Jr> I like MPD
07:10 <DrJoeTron> mom said he wanted to make a clan where the tag was so big that you could only have numbers
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> glad to hear that, Luke-Jr 
07:10 <Luke-Jr> 'night
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, get past the clan formation part and get to the part where WPN gets involved
07:11 <DrJoeTron> we were gonna terrorize ctf
07:11 <DrJoeTron> but if was full\
07:11 <DrJoeTron> and we decided to go to wpn instead
07:11 <DrJoeTron> we started talking like 14 year olds
07:11 <DrJoeTron> posting our rad clan site
07:12 <DrJoeTron> http://www.geocities.nathan.com/anime/pics/gokukoo/tron/clan/dwhrules/index.html
07:12 <DrJoeTron> and typing it wrong repeatedly
07:12 <DrJoeTron> as they kept trying to go to it
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't really exist, does it?
07:13 <DrJoeTron> aftenope
07:13 <DrJoeTron> then mom challenged them to sumo
07:13 <DrJoeTron> which they agreed to
07:13 <DrJoeTron> it was tie until the end 
07:14 <DrJoeTron> and they started whining about lag
07:14 <DrJoeTron> and we just kept reiiterating the idiocy they were saying to us
07:14 <DrJoeTron> we won then they made us play again
07:14 <DrJoeTron> and we won by a land slide
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, reiterating what idiocy?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> they were whining about lag, so you guys whined about lag?
07:14 <DrJoeTron> "rofl dont even try plying fortress
07:14 <DrJoeTron> and "dood we won"
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, I was there for that part, but left :)
07:15 <DrJoeTron> haha
07:15 <DrJoeTron> it went on for a nother match
07:15 <DrJoeTron> and then said "no lets do fortress"
07:15 <DrJoeTron> and we just sat there and made fun of them
07:15 <DrJoeTron> we being me
07:15 <DrJoeTron> and mom just typing lol if there was a punchline to be had
07:15 <DrJoeTron> or rofl copter
07:16 <DrJoeTron> like "WPN can onle pwn noobs cuz dats all they can pwn ROFL! HURRRRR!!!!!
07:16 <DrJoeTron> and they kept sayting "god it keeps lagging, lets go to LOD fortress"
07:17 <DrJoeTron> and we kept saying "SORE LOOZZAR ROFL
07:17 <DrJoeTron> and then durka got on the admin line and said "go fuck yourselves"and banned us
07:17 <DrJoeTron> made my night
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> so, basically, after the tie got broken they just kept complaining about lag?
07:17 <DrJoeTron> yeah
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> of course, had the tie broken the other way, then they were having pristine perfect connections
07:18 <DrJoeTron> of course
07:18 <DrJoeTron> well unfortunate for them
07:18 <DrJoeTron> im like RIGHT by the server
07:18 <DrJoeTron> since its luke's
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you guys should've told me when I went in so I could've come back under a more suitable name :)
07:18 <DrJoeTron> so i ping was almost as good at being at lobster cage
07:18 <DrJoeTron> they kept asking if we have more members
07:18 <DrJoeTron> since he was 1 and i was 4
07:19 <DrJoeTron> you wanna be 7?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> sure
07:19 <DrJoeTron> haha great
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> long as we all agree it's not a real clan :)
07:19 <DrJoeTron> duh
07:19 <DrJoeTron> members 2 and 3 are out getting busines cards made
07:19 <DrJoeTron> saying DINOSAURS WITH HATS RULES
07:21 <DrJoeTron> http://img.waffleimages.com/1efe8714d5907fce946cb85e3f966a92f9ff6512/raptor.JPG just thing this
07:21 <DrJoeTron> think*
07:21 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
07:21 <DrJoeTron> or pick a number so long as it isnt over 10
07:22 <DrJoeTron> or is 10
07:23 <DrJoeTron> but
07:23 <DrJoeTron> keep it on the DL that its dinosaurs with hats
07:23 <DrJoeTron> because i was seen talking about this earlier
07:24 <DrJoeTron> so i'm tied to it
07:24 <DrJoeTron> i think i was
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> so what's the clan tag?
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> or rather, I'm going in with my regular name right now, but I"ll need the clan tag sooner or later :)
07:27 <DrJoeTron> ~''|~DWH~|''~
07:29 <DrJoeTron> so i went in
07:29 <DrJoeTron> and im now longer banned
07:29 <DrJoeTron> no*
07:29 <DrJoeTron> but they think im slush now
07:29 <DrJoeTron> or someone
07:29 <DrJoeTron> or mom
07:29 <DrJoeTron> well
07:29 <DrJoeTron> 7 at least
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07:31 <DrJoeTron> whatever
07:31 <DrJoeTron> done with that game for the day
07:51 <spidey> WEEE
07:51 <spidey> DrJoeTron
07:51 <spidey> i pwn at defcon now
07:51 <spidey> =)
07:51 <spidey> i mean
07:51 <spidey> pwn
07:51 <spidey> =p
07:52 <spidey> i can totally destroy europe with russia, and vise versa =)
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08:24 <DrJoeTron> you read our story :D
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08:29 <Durka> http://durdur.freehostia.com/irc/arma.html
08:30 <Durka> http://durdur.freehostia.com/irc/arma-irc.html
08:30 <Durka> try both
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08:33 <Arma717> good old CGI::IRC, like joda's…
08:33 <wrtlprnft> oh, this IS joda's IRC
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08:34 <Arma15> oh well, i guess there's plenty of ways to connect now :)
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08:45 <DrJoeTron> word
08:46 <DrJoeTron> spidey, 
08:47 <wrtlprnft> #g 24*60
08:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 24 * 60 = 1,440
08:47 <wrtlprnft> #g 24*60 / 325
08:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (24 * 60) / 325 = 4.43076923
08:52 -!- Arma51 [n=Arma51@adsl-64-108-203-231.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #armagetron
08:52 <Arma51> DOOD THIS IS AWESOME LOLZOR
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08:52 <DrJoeTron> DEAR GOD
08:53 <DrJoeTron> ttheres too many ways to connect
08:53 <DrJoeTron> we may need to find a different room
08:57 <DrJoeTron> spidey spidey spidey 
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09:13 <Arma20> omg hello?
09:13 <Arma20> HI!
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10:04 <Lucifer_arma> shawcable means they're canadian
10:05 <anjori> indeed i am
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> [01:59] --> Arma09 has joined this channel (n=Arma09@S0106001150573138.vc.shawcable.net).
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> and you're the person I was trying to remember being on shawcable :)
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, that *is* you
10:06 <anjori> have you heard the hans reiser news?
10:06 <anjori> yes
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> he's a killer?
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> in a way I hope he did kill his wife
10:07 <anjori> oh?
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> it would show that the open source community is big enough to contain the requisite number of killers any large population has to have
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it's not a milestone you really shoot for
10:08 <anjori> heh
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> but I hope he turns out innocent so he can finish reiser4 :)
10:08  * Lucifer_arma switched his server out to reiserFS awhile back and is really happy with it
10:09 <anjori> tasteless, but geekfully funny joke on slashdot: What's the difference between O.J. and Hans Reiser?
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> what's eerie is that my wife just hooked up the antenna the other day (reiser kept a journal) and I watched some show about a lawyer
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> and they did exctly the same thing, indicted the suspect before they had the body
10:10 <anjori> heh. you must have read, too.
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, sometimes the slashdot crowd is really good at digging up further information for a story
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> and let's face it, the sanfran page pretty much painted him as a killer who deserved to burn in hell for all eternity
10:10 <anjori> i'm using reiser(3)fs, bit don't know really know enough about the pros and cons compared to ext3.
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can't say I've seen a performance gain, but I have seen some partitions shrink in size
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> my webserver seems to be running slower, but it's also more loaded up than it was when it was on ext3
10:12 <anjori> and an ext4 patch was just announced
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> I think I've got a more serious problem there though, the server's going down seemingly at random.  :(
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> what's ext4 supposed to give us over ext3?
10:13 <anjori> hold on, finding the link
10:13  * Lucifer_arma notes that ext3 is a fine filesystem
10:13 <anjori> http://www.kr.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.19-rc1/2.6.19-rc1-mm1/announce.txt
10:14 <anjori> the digg summary: "Andrew Morton released a new -mm patch this morning, it includes, among other things, the new ext4 filesystem patch. The ext4 filesystem promises improved data integrity and performance, among with less limitations."
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://lwn.net/Articles/187321/
10:16 <anjori> thats one of the lins i came across earlier when i was looking them up
10:16 <anjori> *links
10:18 <anjori> i'm divided. i've read about some of the ext3 limitations, but then there's arguments against reiser also (mainly what i'm read from a suse dev, and that they decided to drop reiserfs for ext3)
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I didn't know ext3 was limited to only 8TB.  Whatever will we do?
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> I only care about 2 things: stability and performance
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> and stability is more important than performance.  :)
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> so I tend to stay away from various filesystem discussions because the stuff people argue about don't matter to me as long as the filesystem is stable and performs reasonably
10:20 <anjori> i'd love stability and no data loss, of course, but having a desktop and not a server where i transfer a lot of media around, performance is nice, too
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> I find the bottleneck for me is the network more often than not
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> after that, it's the CPU
10:23 <anjori> though i've read a bit about optimizing stuff too (like by using hdparm, which i'm afraid to touch), and it's likely, at least in part, my lack of knowledge.
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> but I can see where performance starts to matter even for some desktop applications.  Multi-track mixing, for example.  What if you have a 32-track digital recording system?
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> so you've taken 32 tracks of 98khz 32-bit float audio and you need to mix them together and then render them out to a 2-track master
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> hdparm is pretty easy, mainly you just make sure you've got the really fast mode turned on (DMA?)
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> so it can use teh 100/133mhz bus instead of the 33mhz bus
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> and then you want the filesystem to basically be defragmented on the fly
10:25 <anjori> dma is on, yes. the other stuff, i don't really know anything about. was reading an article about it, and with the *chance* of data loss and recommeding messing with it in single user mode, i declined
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think I went through that same process with the same result :)
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> I just find that the bottlenecks on my system are usually pretty high above the filesystem.  I spend more time waiting for my application to do what I told it to than I do saving/opening files
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> I also trust that there are really good hackers keeping their eyes on the filesystem for me so I don't have to worry about it :)
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go grab a smoke and then head to bed, test in the morning
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10:28 <anjori> all right, 'night. good luck with your test.
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> hey, while I"m thinking about it, how you coming programming?
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15:21 <spidey> #last --nolimit --with spidey
15:21 <armabot> spidey: [08:57:03] <DrJoeTron> spidey spidey spidey, [08:45:58] <DrJoeTron> spidey,, [04:19:56] <DrJoeTron> spidey we gotta try 8 hour defcon one day, [04:16:57] <Luke-Jr> spidey: Your_mom_arma you gonna play long-term civ?, [00:33:14] <luke-jr_work> spidey, spidey spidey spidey, [00:29:15] <MaZuffeR> spidey, pm, [00:23:42] <luke-jr_work> spidey, come play the game, [23:34:18] <luke-jr_work> spidey, u2, [22:40:54] (6 more messages)
16:12 <Comsn> lol
16:12 <Comsn> i could do some defcon .. ..
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16:32 <wrtlprnft> grr, i hate the w3 for their svg path spec
16:32 <wrtlprnft> it's a pain to parse
16:37 <nemostultae> Yes, it is.
16:37 <wrtlprnft> trying to write something to convert paths to aamaps
16:38 <wrtlprnft> because unfortunately inkscape and oodraw put everything in paths
16:38 <wrtlprnft> so I can't use your converter
16:39 <nemostultae> I think I worked on adding that. I forget if I finished or not.
16:40 <wrtlprnft> once you have the numbers in a better format it should be easy, as there's a good wikipedia page on bézier curves :)
16:41 <nemostultae> I have code that does linetos and closepaths for paths.
16:42 <nemostultae> If you give me a sample svg document I can test it.
16:42 <wrtlprnft> does it read the path according to the w3 specs?
16:42 <wrtlprnft> ie all those little shortcuts it allows
16:42 <wrtlprnft> like writing l123-54..5.6
16:43 <wrtlprnft> which would mean l 123 -54 l 0.5 0.6
16:44 <nemostultae> ugh, doesn't do that.
16:44 <wrtlprnft> x_X
16:45 <nemostultae> Your vector editor actually produces that?
16:45 <wrtlprnft> no
16:45 <wrtlprnft> but another one might
16:45 <wrtlprnft> though, you're right, i could ignore that for now
16:45 <wrtlprnft> but it does omit that extra l
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16:47 <wrtlprnft> anyways, unless you're working on it yourself, could you give me what you have so i can try to understand it (don't know ruby) and try to implement what I need?
16:53 <nemostultae> It is hacky, but → http://pastie.caboo.se/17091 (code + TestCase).
16:56 <wrtlprnft> ty
16:56 <wrtlprnft> btw your forum link is dead
17:00 <nemostultae> ugh, it doesn't match floats.
17:01 <wrtlprnft> i still need to figure out how to run it :P
17:01 <nemostultae> Got a better regex than  this to match floats? [+-]?\d+(?:\.\d+)?
17:02 <wrtlprnft> i don't think + is allowed
17:02 <nemostultae> :(
17:02 <nemostultae> Does it allow exponents?
17:02 <wrtlprnft> sec
17:02 <wrtlprnft> i'd better read the spec
17:03 <wrtlprnft> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/types.html#DataTypeNumber
17:05 <wrtlprnft> -?\d*(.\d*)?([eE]\d*)?
17:05 <wrtlprnft> that's what I came up with
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17:06 <DrJoeTron> its the VCR's birthday this week
17:06 <wrtlprnft> -?\d*(.\d*)?([eE]-?\d*)? ← better
17:06 <nemostultae> I skipped over the relative/absolute parts, so my code won't help much. L → absolute coordinates, l → relative coordinates.
17:07 <wrtlprnft> i'd need to figure out how to add anything to your parser first :s
17:07 <nemostultae> SVG2AAMap::PathData.new.parse("path data here")
17:09 <wrtlprnft> i'll probably make a new function in your parser and use your pastebin code as cheat sheet for ruby
17:14 <nemostultae> Hmm, relative paths are a pain.
17:15 <wrtlprnft> why?
17:15 <DrJoeTron> but un relative paths are fun :D
17:15 <wrtlprnft> just keep the last coordinate…
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17:24 <nemostultae> http://pastie.caboo.se/17100 ← should work with relative linetos and movetos.
17:30 <nemostultae> What language are you writing yours in, wrtlprnft?
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17:45 <Luzifer> #lastseen Luzifer
17:45 <armabot> Luzifer: Luzifer has last been seen on -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server 0 days 19 hours 29 minutes ago.
18:27 <Comsn> hehe
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18:34 <Luzifer> #serverdetails wild
18:34 <armabot> Luzifer: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (11/14): ->WPN<-Thunder, ., <<?WpN?>>DaZeR, <º}}}><, Boschti, Chris, CT|orly?, ender|mbc|, pixel, Rav, WTF| Gergely
18:47 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: was away, sorry.
18:48 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: i'll try to write it in ruby, a) because there's already a codebase I can use (it's GPL, right?), b) because learning ruby can't hurt, c) because you're working on a ruby interface for arma, and i wanna try it out some day :)
18:56 <wrtlprnft> does ruby support deriving classes?
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19:08 <nemostultae> You mean subclassing? yes if, so. “class Child < Parent; end”
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19:13 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
19:13 <wrtlprnft> anyways, I think i got it to do thinks like “M 1 2 3 4” == “M 1 2 L 3 4”
19:14 <wrtlprnft> *things
19:14 <wrtlprnft> i googled for “derivation” and didn't find anything useful
19:14 <nemostultae> Should we put in to SVN so we don't duplicate effort?
19:15 <wrtlprnft> sure
19:16 <wrtlprnft> shall i put my version into it?
19:16 <wrtlprnft> also handles a “m” command at the beginning now
19:16 <nemostultae> Sure
19:17 <nemostultae> Did you add unit tests? :)
19:17 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:18 <wrtlprnft> nice feature
19:18 <wrtlprnft> that way you immediately notice if you break something
19:19 <nemostultae> My latest version is the one I posted on the forums, are you merging yours with that?
19:19 <wrtlprnft> uh, well
19:19 <wrtlprnft> i'm just working on your test version now
19:19 <wrtlprnft> and the forums link is broken
19:20 <wrtlprnft> and i don't know if the version I have here is unchanged
19:20 <nemostultae> Really? The one I just posted?
19:20 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:20 <nemostultae> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=98031#98031
19:20 <wrtlprnft> oh
19:21 <wrtlprnft> that post didn't appear as unread
19:21 <wrtlprnft> ah, and you chose a more console-friendly name too
19:22 <nemostultae> Yeah, I decided I wouldn't add translating aamaps to svg. That is for map-preview
19:24 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6212 /tools/svg2aamap/ (22 files in 8 dirs): Added the unchanged 0.2 version of svg2aamap.
19:24 <wrtlprnft> argh
19:24 <wrtlprnft> committed a swap file by accident
19:24 <wrtlprnft> svn should really ignore hidden files
19:27 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Fortress Server (8 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (5 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || Weasel Systems Racing Grid (0 players) || PIXELPARTY VOICECHAT (0 players) || basementUnderground.net (0 players) || (1 more message)
19:27 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails lords
19:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Fortress Server: Players (8/16): <<?VpN?=>DaZeR, >3D>KeY_3113, deathtopurple, entereczek, Rav, say`ya, ~*sp*~cyclo, ~|DS|~|Slash|~
19:29 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: how do you run the tests? I can run it from everywhere i want, it never manages to find and include the main svg2aamap module
19:31 <nemostultae> I use rake. “rake test” runs all tests.
19:31 <nemostultae> Or you can run the  like this (assuming you are at the top-level directory):
19:31 <nemostultae> ruby -Ilib path/to/test/file
19:31 <nemostultae> run them*
19:33 <wrtlprnft> need to emerge rake
19:33 <wrtlprnft> thought that was a macos-only thing
19:34 <nemostultae> I think rubyforge is down right now… so you won't be able to get it.
19:35 <wrtlprnft> gentoo has it
19:35 <nemostultae> ah
19:35 <wrtlprnft> (in /home/mathias/armagetronad3/tools/svg2aamap)
19:35 <wrtlprnft> rake aborted!
19:35 <wrtlprnft> no such file to load -- rcov/rcovtask
19:35 <wrtlprnft> /home/mathias/armagetronad3/tools/svg2aamap/Rakefile:3:in `require'
19:35 <wrtlprnft> (See full trace by running task with --trace)
19:35 <nemostultae> rcov is a code coverage tool
19:36 <nemostultae> http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=rcov
19:37 <nemostultae> I also use flexmock (http://onestepback.org/software/flexmock/) to mock objects in some tests.
19:37 <wrtlprnft> marked as unstable, that makes for 97 unstable packages on my system…
19:37 <wrtlprnft> o well
19:41 <nemostultae> this is what rcov does (rake rcov) → http://generalconsumption.org/tmp/coverage/
19:43 <wrtlprnft> “gem install flexmock” takes forever
19:43 <wrtlprnft> gentoo doesn't have it
19:44 <nemostultae> gem uses rubyforge, which is down (their servers crashed).
19:44 <wrtlprnft> oh
19:44 <wrtlprnft> so i could wait forever for it
19:45 <nemostultae> here, I have the gem, let me upload it.
19:46 <nemostultae> http://generalconsumption.org/tmp/flexmock-0.3.2.gem
19:46 <nemostultae> just cd to where the gem is and do gem install flexmock.
19:46 <wrtlprnft> ty
19:46 <wrtlprnft> figured that out already :)
19:47 <wrtlprnft> runs now, gonna incorporate my changes, delete that swapfile and commit
19:48 <wrtlprnft>         when /[-+]?\d+(?:\.\d+)?(?:[eE][+-]?\d+)?/
19:48 <wrtlprnft> what are those “?:” after “(” for?
19:50 <nemostultae> (?: ) means don't capture the group
19:50 <wrtlprnft> ah
19:50 <wrtlprnft> must be a ruby extension, never heard of it in other regular expressions (grep, vim, awk, perl etc)
19:50 <nemostultae> it is from perl, IIRC.
19:51 <wrtlprnft> oh, ok. Only use pregs in php sometimes because they're supposed to be faster
19:53 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6213 /tools/svg2aamap/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Removed accidentially committed swap file, the parser can now handle implicit L/l commands after M/m commands.
19:55 <nemostultae> You can leave of “then” on if statements, btw.
19:55 <nemostultae> off*
19:56 <wrtlprnft> oh, i put one on because it complained, but it was just a missing bracket after all
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19:58 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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19:58 <Vanhayes> some games dont like x-chat
19:59 <Vanhayes> it screws the game up and closes x-chat
20:00 <wrtlprnft> how would an irc client screw up a game?
20:05 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: is it possible to extract parts of an array, like in python “someList[1:5]”?
20:05  * wrtlprnft thinks he should take the time and read some ruby tutorial
20:06 <nemostultae> Yes, you use ranges: somelist[1..5], where the .. is special syntax to create ranges. You can also do it by calling Range.new(1, 5).
20:06 <wrtlprnft> ah
20:08 <wrtlprnft> thanks
20:13 <luke-jr_work> nemostultae, sounds like MOO
20:29 <wrtlprnft>             (x1, y1, x2, y2, x3, y3, x4, y4) = parsed[-8,-1]
20:29 <wrtlprnft>             parsed = parsed[0,-7]
20:29 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: would that be supposed to work? because it doesn'T
20:29 <wrtlprnft> parsed is nil after
20:46 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: is there something like a “test_similar”, because I can't have exact tests for the bezier curves because they're floats
20:47 <nemostultae> assert_in_delta(expected_float, actual_float, delta, message="")
20:47 <wrtlprnft> thanks
20:47 <wrtlprnft> googling on ruby seems to be inefficient
20:48 <nemostultae> For the problems you were having, you can't have a negative length, AFAIK.
20:48 <wrtlprnft> yeah, figured that
20:48 <wrtlprnft> apparently it's [start,length]
20:48 <wrtlprnft> and not [start,end] like in python
20:49 <wrtlprnft> The arguments must respond to to_f; the first float did not.
20:50 <wrtlprnft> but they are all floats!
20:50 <wrtlprnft> or
20:50 <wrtlprnft> *or doesn't it accept arrays?
20:52 <nemostultae> Yeah, it only accepts floats. You need to loop over your expected array and do assert_in_delta for each element.
20:52 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
20:58 <wrtlprnft> ok, parses C commands now :)
20:59 <wrtlprnft> now, for parsing c commands i have no idea to what the coordinates should be relative. To the last point, or to the last given coordinate, ie the “handles”, too
21:01 <wrtlprnft> so should “M 0 0 c 0,100 100,0 0,-100” evaluate to “M 0 0 C 0,100 100,100 100,0” or “M 0 0 C 0,100 100,0 0,-100”?
21:05 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (6 players) || iNsTiNcTs SeRvEr (6 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (5 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (5 players) || Strawberry Fields - BACKUP-SERVER (4 players) || ~}Six ~}Dragons{~ Server{~ (3 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (3 (1 more message)
21:05 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails sty
21:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Capture The Flag Sty: Players (6/8): Jealousy, KamP, Kitty Tree, WPN» ·Þës, zail, ~!*NB*!~JDawg
21:29 -!- z-manuel [n=manuel@p508721C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
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21:44 <Vanhayes> #ping
21:44 <armabot> pong
21:50 <wrtlprnft> woot! I got it to render an svg image almost correctly
21:50 <wrtlprnft> just some extra lines
22:00 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6214 /tools/svg2aamap/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Now parses S and C commands, which makes it possible to convert most paths generated by SVG editors.
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6042306.stm   <--- whack!
22:06 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
22:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> evening
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> hiya
22:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #evening
22:12 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #f
22:12 <armabot> Random Fortune: We are not a clone.
22:12 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=98081#98081 ← map editors are obsolete :P
22:13 <wrtlprnft> now we just need a more skillfull artist i guess…
22:16 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-203-231.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
22:17 <DrJoeTron> 10/11 never forget
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> United we stand, DrJoeTron .  United we stand.
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> um, I guess you saw the news, then?
22:18 <DrJoeTron> i....i just dont understand how this could happen...
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6042306.stm   <--- whack!
22:19 <Vanhayes> hmm, CBC is slower than BBC it seems, they just got the storie now
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> we need a war on drunken piloting
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> those bastards have attacked our freedom!
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6215 /tools/svg2aamap/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Added ellipse and circle elements.
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's probably because NK did a nuke test
22:21 <DrJoeTron> haha
22:21 <DrJoeTron> we fight...for america!
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's right, we gotta go torture NK now because of this!
22:22 <DrJoeTron> yeah!
22:22 <Vanhayes> but they have nukes
22:22 <DrJoeTron> we have more
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, maybe we shouldn't then
22:22 <Vanhayes> heh true
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, let's go into Thailand!
22:23 <Vanhayes> possibilty of nukes=invade  actual nukes=ask for UN sanctions
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> you've played freeciv, Vanhayes , you know the score
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> you just do your part to make sure canada gets nukes before we run out of fresh water down here
22:24 <Vanhayes> I dont think we want them
22:25 <Vanhayes> unless we get on U.S badside I dont think we will get nuked
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, nobody'll actually nuke anybody, except spidey.  But they work really nicely as a deterrant.
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> You could say that nukes make good deterrants, but really shitty detergents.
22:26 <Vanhayes> heh
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> and with Republican resource management being what it is, we'll probably run out of water in a couple of decades
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> rather, with the Republicans in charge, all the rich people will have water.  With the Democrats in charge, we'll all run out together, at the same time.
22:28 <Vanhayes> hmmm, I remember hearing something about a bunch of countries coming into canada's artic to look for oil a while back
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> " and then took every opportunity to personally insult the country's reportedly unstable dictator because it played well politically at home."
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so which world leaders does this passage refer?
22:29 <Vanhayes> hmm, bush?
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> I should have changed "dictator" to "leader" or something politically-neutral
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> because it could refer to any of half a dozen european leaders, middle-east leaders (including terrorist leaders), african, asian, etc.
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> Russia vs Georgia, France vs the US, NK vs SK, etc.  The list goes on.
22:30 <luke-jr_work> suuure
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work vs the world
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, you're right, it's an op-ed about bush and NK's nuke test
22:31 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: nice, though you could convert those to paths if you liked
22:32 <nemostultae> I thought so.
22:32 <nemostultae> http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/svg2aamap/
22:33 <nemostultae> One small minor style complaint: Ruby uses method_names_like_this, not likeThis :)
22:33 <wrtlprnft> neat²
22:33 <wrtlprnft> oh
22:34 <wrtlprnft> did you correct it?
22:34 <nemostultae> No, I didn't
22:34 <wrtlprnft> i will next time I change it
22:34 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-203-231.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)]
22:34 <wrtlprnft> what do you think about adding comments in the resulting aamap containing the original type and id of the converted element?
22:36 <nemostultae> I think that would be nice. I need to think of a way to do spawn points, doing them manually kinda sucks.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> true
22:37 <wrtlprnft> just abuse lines in a special layer?
22:38 <wrtlprnft> http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/map-preview/map-preview.rhtml
22:39 <wrtlprnft> it needs some fooling around with it because the script doesn't support transformations. I'll have a look at it tomorrow :)
22:39 <nemostultae> Did you mean to link to the image? ;)
22:41 <wrtlprnft> uh, yeah
22:41 <wrtlprnft> oops
22:41 <wrtlprnft> http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/map-preview/previews/Empty/Empty-Empty.png
22:42 <wrtlprnft> gonna put some spawn points on it and upload it
22:44 <Commn> #armaserver
22:44 <Commn> #armaservers
22:44 <armabot> Commn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (5 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (5 players) || Fortress (5 players) || ed's highly experimental mayhem (4 players) || Norm's Place (4 players) || (1 more message)
22:47 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-203-231.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> "The North Koreans' test also underscores that nuclear proliferation is a growing menace to the survival of life on this planet, and that the menace of WMD should not have been turned into a partisan political ploy"  <--- If I recall correctly, the Democrats are responsible for that last part
22:48 <wrtlprnft> the whole path thing still needs some optimisation, ie generate fewer points for short path segments
22:50 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/crazy/inkscapeMadness-1.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
22:51 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/crazy/inkscapeMadness-1.aamap.xml
22:56 <DrJoeTron> democrats doing something wrong?
22:56 <DrJoeTron> thats all lies!
22:56 <DrJoeTron> we all know that republicans are the devil in devils clothing
22:56 <DrJoeTron> we need a fucking dinosaur party
22:56 <DrJoeTron> all in favor of dinosaurs
23:03 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:03 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron, democrams = republicans
23:03 <spidey> spidey = death of luke-jr_work 
23:04 <spidey> ;o;o;o
23:05 <luke-jr_work> ;.;
23:07 <spidey> gos gamespot is slow
23:09 <DrJoeTron> gamespot blows
23:09 <spidey> Fighter - Disposable to the last. Each fighter's main use is to die in the
23:09 <spidey>  process of fighting enemy fleets
23:09 <spidey> i'd hate to be a fighter pilot in defcon
23:09 <spidey> ;/
23:10 <spidey> woww
23:10 <spidey> i think i know how to NOT get nuked
23:10 <spidey>  =- Credit to Fahnix -=
23:10 <spidey>  Fighters are able to attack nukes if they within their attack range. This can
23:10 <spidey>  be a surprising defence, because most people don't know i
23:12 <spidey> http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/defcon.txt
23:12 <spidey> nbow
23:12 <spidey> i'ma go play
23:13 <spidey> and shoot nukes with fighters
23:13 <spidey> oh
23:13 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
23:13 <spidey> fighters can crash into building and destroy them, aswell as fleets
23:13 <spidey> i managed to whipe out a carrier doing it
23:13 <spidey> lol
23:16 <Commn> what?
23:16 <Commn> hahahaha
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> am I crazy for trying to teach my daughter algebra?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> depends on her age
23:22 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6216 /tools/svg2aamap/ (lib/svg2aamap/path_data.rb test/svg2aamap/test_path_data.rb): Added a heuristic that tries to find a good number of points a path segment should generate. Commented out the checks on bezier curves as the result is subject to change, so checking point by point is kind of pointless.
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> 7
23:23 <wrtlprnft> well, then it is crazy
23:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/crazy/inkscapeMadness-2.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> her homework is basically algebra, though!
23:24 <Commn> i used to be able to do algebra in my head
23:24 <Commn> :(
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> "I'm thinking of two numbers whose sum is 17.  One number is 5 more than the other number."  She followed the discussion on why I used x to represent one number and how I figured out the second number
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> at least except for the fact that they haven't taught her multiplication and division yet
23:25 <Commn> then my teacher wanted me to 'show my work' and i lost that ability 
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> I taught her multiplication and division, though.  I told her that Catholics multiply and Republicans divide.
23:26 -!- Plazma [n=Plazma@about/apple/TiBook/Plazma] has joined #armagetron
23:27  * Lucifer_arma just took his first physics test today
23:28  * Lucifer_arma notes that every time he sees someone "do algebra in their head", they screw it up
23:28 <wrtlprnft> for($i = 0; $i < 17; ++$i) if($i + $i + 5 == 17) print($i . 'OMG LOL XD !!!!!!!!!1' . "\n");
23:29 <DrJoeTron> spidey
23:29 <Commn> spidey : hahaha i blew up an airbase using fighters :)
23:30 <DrJoeTron> commn are you playing defcon?
23:34 <Commn> ya
23:35 <Commn> spidey : i cant get fighters to attack nukes tho
23:36 <Commn> DrJoeTron : wnat to play?
23:36 <DrJoeTron> i havent had time lately
23:36 <DrJoeTron> did you buy it or do you have the demo?
23:36 <Commn> i have the demo and warez version ;p
23:37 <DrJoeTron> hehe
23:46 -!- Vanhayes [n=lamb--ch@stjhnbsu83w-156034244142.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> man, what I wouldn't give to have subversion right now
23:59  * Lucifer_arma is working on a cvs-hosted project and hating it

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