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Log from 2006-09-27:
--- Day changed Wed Sep 27 2006
00:06 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034160018.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
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01:07 <Self_Destructo> Z-Man starting his own clan? lol
01:13 <deja_vu_> :o
01:13 <deja_vu_> hey Self_Destructo 
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01:15 <Self_Destructo> hey deja_vu
01:16 <Self_Destructo> ltns
01:16 <deja_vu> yea :)
01:16 <deja_vu> probably won't happen in the next few weeks, either
01:17 <deja_vu> no inet *.*
01:21 <Self_Destructo> oh?
01:21 <Self_Destructo> moving?
01:21 <deja_vu> yea
01:21 <Self_Destructo> started college?
01:21 <deja_vu> will
01:21 <deja_vu> i'm moving to karlsruhe saturday *g*
01:21 <Self_Destructo> so that's were you are moving then?
01:22 <deja_vu> exactly
01:22 <Self_Destructo> cool
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01:22 <deja_vu> and getting cable takes a few weeks :s
01:22 <Self_Destructo> really?
01:22 <Self_Destructo> about 2 days here
01:22 <deja_vu> including internet?
01:23 <Self_Destructo> yeah
01:23 <deja_vu> okay
01:23 <deja_vu> they'll probably have to install stuff here
01:23 <Self_Destructo> there are probably stacked up
01:23 <deja_vu> i'll see *g*
01:23 <Self_Destructo> well, they did my place too
01:24 <Self_Destructo> btw, I'm officially a bachelor now :)
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01:24 <Self_Destructo> hey
01:24 <deja_vu> uh *g*
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01:31 <Luke-Jr> ...
01:33 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: 
01:34 <Self_Destructo> oh, sorry
01:34 <Self_Destructo> music is on so I can't hear this thing, if it is beeping at all
01:34 <Luke-Jr> why would it beep?
01:35 <Luke-Jr> It's just IRC
01:35 <Self_Destructo> words with - and ' are counted as separate words
01:35 <deja_vu> O.o
01:35 <Self_Destructo> because i use a program that recognizes my nick and beeps when it is used
01:35 <Luke-Jr> [a-zA-Z]+
01:35 <Luke-Jr> O.o?
01:35 <Self_Destructo> nope, that's default
01:36 <Luke-Jr> oh, you want them counted...
01:36 <Self_Destructo> yeah
01:36  * deja_vu demands hotplug-support for input devices in x.org -.-
01:37 <Luke-Jr> [a-zA-Z]([a-zA-Z'-]*[a-zA-Z])?
01:37 <Luke-Jr> incl the "?"
01:37 <Self_Destructo> let me see...
01:38 <Self_Destructo> it will take me a little bit to download, because your server uploads slow :p
01:39 <Luke-Jr> well I'm too lazy to use a MAC with a higher upload speed
01:39 <Luke-Jr> actually
01:39 <Luke-Jr> you could try doing http://two.hachi.dashjr.org/~luke-jr/tmp/wordcount
01:39 <Self_Destructo> that's lazy
01:40 <Self_Destructo> :p
01:40 <Luke-Jr> two is the faster connection
01:41 <Self_Destructo> heh, doesn't seem to be
01:42 <Self_Destructo> deja_vu: Go tell them about it
01:42 <Self_Destructo> :)
01:44 <deja_vu> i found a wiki page with plans on that
01:45 <deja_vu> but i guess it will take some time
01:50 <Self_Destructo> probably
01:50 <Self_Destructo> Luke-Jr: the latsets version already had that fixed... but something seems wrong
01:51 <Self_Destructo> latest*
01:52 <Self_Destructo> just browsing the words I find just, justly, justl, justice, juster
01:52 <Self_Destructo> two of those words don't look like words
01:52 <Self_Destructo> but i don't have anything on here to doublecheck it
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02:12 <Self_Destructo> guys
02:13 <Self_Destructo> did z-man post anything on the armagetron forums saying he was starting his own clan?
02:15 <[dlh]> No, he did not.
02:19 <mkzelda> spidey, im guessing you made the move on your shell?
02:23 <Self_Destructo> hrm
02:24 <Self_Destructo> "z-man" came on our server today as "z-man"
02:24 <Self_Destructo> and he was telling people about this forum he made...
02:25 <Self_Destructo> which infact, he wouldn't use an IBP forum I'm pretty sure
02:25 <Self_Destructo> he's supposebly starting this "God" clan, made of leaders and the best players of tron
02:26 <Self_Destructo> which, i know z-man well enough, that this is a buch of crap i bet
02:26 <Self_Destructo> I'm going to track this guy down until I found out something
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02:42 <Van-hayes> #lastseen z-man
02:42 <armabot> Van-hayes: Z-man has last been seen on  ~*Speeders*~  Classic  Server 4 hours 48 minutes ago.
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen shithead
02:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I haven't seen anyone matching “shithead” yet, sorry.
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen mismatched socks
02:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I haven't seen anyone matching “mismatched socks” yet, sorry.
02:44 <Van-hayes> #lastseen car keys
02:44 <armabot> Van-hayes: I haven't seen anyone matching “car keys” yet, sorry.
02:44 <Van-hayes> #lastseen car 
02:45 <armabot> Van-hayes: carlton seems to be on Strawberry Fields right now.
02:49 <Van-hayes> http://trongods.9.forumer.com/index.php?  theres the site by "z-man"
02:50 <Van-hayes> and unless youve ever heard z-man say "word" its a fake
02:55 <Van-hayes> aand im pretty sure it is sin who is the fake
03:01 <spidey> sin is arcanus
03:01 <spidey> ex mbc guy
03:01 <Van-hayes> i know
03:03 <Van-hayes> still, he is the one giving out the link to other sites, the only other member, and him and this "Z-man" type wuite a bit alikew
03:03 <Van-hayes> quite*
03:03 <Van-hayes> alike*
03:04 <spidey> wtf is the register link
03:06 <Van-hayes> just login as Vanhayes pass 123321
03:08 <Van-hayes> i doubt ill be going back there after tonight
03:09 <spidey> k
03:10 <spidey> Self_Destructo, did you locate 'z-mans' ip? 
03:19 <Self_Destructo> yeah
03:19 <Self_Destructo> I asked Lucifer
03:19 <spidey> ya i just read it
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03:21 <Self_Destructo> ok, it's not sin's IP address either
03:21 <spidey> i wonder if it'd be possible to proxy tron with a socks5
03:21 <spidey> i'm sure it would be
03:22 <Van-hayes> well i still think sin is in on it then
03:24 <Van-hayes> way too suspicous for him to not be 
03:25 <Self_Destructo> heh
03:25 <Self_Destructo> I think he was just really gullible... and really, he doesn't know the real z-man
03:25 <spidey> fourmer huh
03:26 <Self_Destructo> what a newb
03:26 <Self_Destructo> that was one of my first clues
03:26  * spidey is gonna play :)
03:26 <Self_Destructo> with what?
03:26 <spidey> first i need to install ubuntu on this server
03:26 <Self_Destructo> :p
03:27 <spidey> i wonder which version of ipb forumer uses
03:27 <Self_Destructo> the latest probably, why?
03:28 <spidey> mysql injection ;p
03:28 <spidey> i know 1.3 IPB has one
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03:41 <Lucifer_arma> the fact that the phony started a clan called "Tron gods" pretty much ruins his credibility as Z-man
03:43 <Van-hayes> ya that too
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03:58 <spidey> ohhhh
03:59 <spidey> i forgot all about this
03:59 <spidey> i have a hacked version of windows xp pro
03:59 <spidey> installs with only 700 or so mb of diskspace
03:59 <spidey> the iso is 198mb
04:00 <Van-hayes> i have the real thing
04:00 <Van-hayes> so ha
04:00 <spidey> so do i....
04:00 <spidey> so ha
04:00 <Van-hayes> touchee
04:00 <spidey> i also have ubuntu and mepis
04:00 <spidey> so pwned
04:00 <spidey> actually my mepis server is still at my moms
04:00 <spidey> -_-
04:01 <Van-hayes> so ha
04:01 <spidey> i still have ubuntu!
04:01 <spidey> whenever this cd is done burning
04:01 <spidey> heh how could i forget
04:03 <spidey> lets see
04:03 <spidey> i'm need
04:03 <spidey> another nick card and to blow the dust off my router -_-
04:03 <spidey> ohhhh, i can play with clustering now o.o
04:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Luke-Jr_work  what's the best distro to use with clustering?
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> I'll tell you only after I've setup a cluster
04:04 <spidey> lol
04:05 <spidey> i'ma get crossovers tomorrow
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> you might check out Mandriva Cluster or whatever it's called
04:05 <spidey> mandrivia sucks
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04:15 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
04:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 6 seconds old; -CT-KY|3, <|»Ere«{>$~K3~$, =-k-=micro 2000, =-t,d-= Xarios, @(-_-)@, Blue Solo, EsReVeR, Explode, FUBAR, hhhok, inf3rno, lord sesshomaru, Mango, M~A~D D~O~G, NOTE, Pink Floyd, Rebecca, Restricted, ryan, tyler, Volke, Wise*, Woopaz, XxMasonxX, zaza, _WPN_ Black DeF, {onfiGure_[X], {WPN} Pyr0TeK, {WPN}·Légît, |*RH*|.CiRcA, |AST| legendary, |WPN|-Diego, ~|K|~BlackBolt
04:15 <Vanhayes> #qrmaservers
04:15 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
04:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Capture The Flag Sty (7 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (4 players) || WPN Clan Server {Fortress} (3 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (3 players) || Strawberry Fields (3 players) || Norm's Place (2 players) || PIXELPARTY VOICECHAT (1 players) || mattadms fortress (0 players) || The Lobster Tub(Sumo) (1 more message)
04:16 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails capture the
04:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Capture The Flag Sty: Players (7/8): -_-)@, EsReVeR, FUBAR, NOTE, Restricted, XxMasonxX, {onfiGure_[X]
04:16 <Vanhayes> well im off to bed then
04:16 <Vanhayes> #night
04:16 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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04:18 <spidey> growl
04:18 <spidey> anyways
04:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i'm not really a fan of rpm systems
04:18 <spidey> more debian based myself
04:20 <Luke-Jr> wtf do you need a cluster for
04:20 <spidey> 2 300mhz box's ?
04:22 <mkzelda> i just found a WTC puzzle i bought in nyc a few years ago
04:22 <mkzelda> kinda ironic
04:23 <Luke-Jr> spidey: so?
04:23 <spidey> so? i want to play with one
04:24 <mkzelda> i have about 10 of those
04:24 <spidey> 10 what?
04:24 <mkzelda> ~300mhz computers
04:25 <spidey> o.O
04:25 <mkzelda> buncha 233/300/400/500
04:25 <mkzelda> i have i think 16 operational computers
04:25 <mkzelda> heh
04:25 <spidey> mkzelda, yes the bnc FINALLY got cut
04:25 <spidey> it took them 2 months
04:25 <spidey> actually it was the shell, but w/e
04:25 <mkzelda> haha
04:25 <spidey> i'ma set one up a little later.
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04:31 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma so i got my ds back today
04:32 <Your_mom_arma> took long enough
04:32 <DrJoeTron> oh it gets better
04:32 <DrJoeTron> it keeps crashing
04:32 <DrJoeTron> and its got a dead pixel
04:33 <DrJoeTron> they're gonna take it back and fix it all again
04:33 <DrJoeTron> and do 2 day shipping
04:33 <DrJoeTron> gee thanks
04:33 <Your_mom_arma> it crashes?
04:33 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:33 <DrJoeTron> before it loads a game it freezes
04:34 <DrJoeTron> im almost positive they really didnt fix it, but just gave me a refurbished system
04:34 <Your_mom_arma> jeez
04:35 <DrJoeTron> and the dead pixel
04:35 <DrJoeTron> man
04:35 <DrJoeTron> before they said they werent going to fix it
04:35 <DrJoeTron> untill i said, i just got this back, and it crashes all the time
04:36 <DrJoeTron> so they said "ok well... we'll look at the screen too ok? im really sorry this happened thats happened and you sure are taking this well"
04:36 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:36 <DrJoeTron> yeah well, this isnt the first interesting thing to go wrong today
04:37 <DrJoeTron> which is true
04:37 <Your_mom_arma> im the guy that yells at the tech support
04:37 <DrJoeTron> im the guy who makes smug remarks usually
04:37 <Commn> hehe
04:37 <Commn> i dont yell at tech support
04:37 <DrJoeTron> but uh i also found out today that my school might be going on strike next year
04:37 <Commn> no reason to annoy someone else
04:37 <Commn> :)
04:37 <DrJoeTron> next week*
04:38 <DrJoeTron> well i when they said to me "well we really let 1 or 2 pixels slide so we arent going to fix that"
04:39 <Your_mom_arma> i demand satisfaction /me pulls out glove
04:39 <Commn> i'd only use LCD monitors if i got em for free
04:39 <Commn> they look like ass :D
04:40 <Your_mom_arma> crt's get dead pixels too
04:40 <Commn> haha
04:40 <spidey> and boy are those annoying
04:40 <Commn> not unless you hold a magnet up to em
04:40 <Your_mom_arma> thats not true
04:40 <spidey> if you poke them and watch the waves roll to much they do
04:40  * spidey knows this
04:40 <DrJoeTron> Well thats adorable policy of yours, unfortunatly for you today it crashes on start up, not only that i just got this back from you guys 15 minutes ago, so if you could take this that would be dandy
04:41 <Commn> you take your pc in to be fixed?
04:41 <DrJoeTron> this is for my nintendo ds
04:41 <Commn> ohhh
04:41 <SD> we got to researching the imposter...
04:41 <Commn> nintedo crash :D
04:41 <SD> and we now have a nickname
04:41 <DrJoeTron> i got a deffective one 
04:41 <Commn> lol
04:41 <SD> it's Nightmare
04:42 <DrJoeTron> the left hinge cracked
04:42 <DrJoeTron> but everything y'know worked
04:42 <DrJoeTron> its been 2-3 weeks
04:42 <DrJoeTron> i get a new one
04:42 <Your_mom_arma> commn wants a ds with old laptop crt's
04:42 <DrJoeTron> and its crap
04:42 <Commn> lol
04:42 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:42 <DrJoeTron> i do too
04:42 <DrJoeTron> itl be better
04:42 <Commn> didnt know we were tlaking about DS
04:42 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:42 <Commn> and my GAME GEAR HAD AN CRT
04:42 <Commn> so screw lcd
04:43 <Commn> er maybe it was lcd
04:43 <Commn> ...
04:43 <DrJoeTron> my NOMAD has a crt
04:43 <DrJoeTron> great frame rate!
04:43 <DrJoeTron> all 2 of them1
04:44 <Commn> nomad haha
04:44 <DrJoeTron> yeah thats right
04:46 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
04:46 <DrJoeTron> not having the best day
04:46 <DrJoeTron> its been interesting to say the least
04:46 <DrJoeTron> fuck nintendo
04:46 <DrJoeTron> at least they are doing faster shipping
04:46 <Commn> anyone think the wii will be any good?
04:47 <Commn> everyone knows the first model of any game system sucks donkey balls anyhow
04:47 <Commn> wait for 3rd or 4th revision :)
04:47 <Your_mom_arma> im worried about the controllers accuracy
04:47 <spidey> hmm
04:47 <Commn> when they fix exploding power adapters and dvd roms that scratch up disks
04:47 <Commn> aka xbox v1 problems :)
04:48 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen ground
04:48 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: groundpig has last been seen on Capture The Flag Sty 46 hours 27 minutes ago.
04:49 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen bug
04:49 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: help im a bug has last been seen on Capture The Flag Sty 2 hours 20 minutes ago.
04:49 <Your_mom_arma> heh he was in swampland half an hour ago
04:49 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen sark
04:49 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: I haven't seen anyone matching “sark” yet, sorry.
04:53 <spidey> hm
04:56 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen Dr Joe Tron
04:56 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Dr Joe Tron has last been seen on Shrunkland in 2.8.2 3 hours 9 minutes ago.
04:56 <DrJoeTron> awww someone acted as me
04:57 <spidey> lol
04:57 <DrJoeTron> oh wait
04:57 <DrJoeTron> 3 hours
04:57 <DrJoeTron> that was me
04:57 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
04:57  * DrJoeTron idiot
04:58 <spidey> that's just what i wanted you to think
04:59 <SD> spidey
04:59 <spidey> me
04:59 -!- SD is now known as Self_Destructo
04:59 <Self_Destructo> do you remeber Nightmare?
04:59 <spidey> i hate that guy
05:00 <Self_Destructo> well, the Z-man imposter was him
05:00 <spidey> he tried to get me to give him the password to one of my servers
05:00 <spidey> then tried to get me to join his clan
05:00 <Self_Destructo> IP confirmed
05:00 <Self_Destructo> figures
05:00 <spidey> figures
05:00 <spidey> ;p
05:01 <Self_Destructo> we caught him trying to login to our remote admin redhanded
05:01 <spidey> same at mbc
05:01 <spidey> he's banned o.o
05:02 <Self_Destructo> well, he won't even get back on in my opinion
05:03 <DrJoeTron> yup, sure hate clans
05:03 <DrJoeTron> and 90% of the people in them
05:03 <Self_Destructo> nothing wrong with clans
05:03 <spidey> even groups of people who act like a clan but say they're not a clan ? :)
05:03 <Self_Destructo> just the politics
05:03 <DrJoeTron> funny how every one likes the people who act like a clan but say they're not a clan
05:03 <Self_Destructo> XzL hardly has any, and that's what I like, because we are all about freindship
05:04 <spidey> funny how they seem exactly like clans
05:04 <Self_Destructo> lol
05:04 <spidey> but they're not because they say they aren't
05:04 <DrJoeTron> and yet they arent :D
05:04 <spidey> even get invited like a clan
05:04 <DrJoeTron> isnt it glorious
05:04 <spidey> but, they're not clans
05:04 <DrJoeTron> nope
05:04 <DrJoeTron> we have a policy
05:04 <DrJoeTron> buy us a pizza
05:04 <DrJoeTron> erm
05:04 <Your_mom_arma> Well i think everyone can agree they hate wpn
05:04 <DrJoeTron> order us a pizza
05:04 <DrJoeTron> fuck those guys
05:04 <spidey> lol
05:04 <DrJoeTron> thats the way we get people
05:05 <DrJoeTron> if you're cool enough to order some guy over the internet a pizza for take out. you're cool enough to join
05:05 <spidey> hmm
05:06 <spidey> now you sound like, pay me and you can be in my clan that's not really a clan because we say it's not a clan, so therefor it must not be a clan even though it operates like one
05:06 <spidey> :)
05:06 <DrJoeTron> nope
05:06 <DrJoeTron> no pay
05:06 <DrJoeTron> they just order
05:06 <DrJoeTron> we pay
05:06 <DrJoeTron> there is a difference
05:06 <spidey> haha
05:07 <DrJoeTron> any of the guys can demand a pizza
05:07 <Your_mom_arma> hi, yeah i'ld like 2 peperroni pizzas for a one darth vader
05:08 <DrJoeTron> yeah, id like 25 sausage pizza's to ~Wpn~ Durka? yeah make sure to write all of that down.
05:09 <Self_Destructo> i took 41 screenshots of that forum
05:09 <DrJoeTron> glamour shots?
05:11 <spidey> DrJoeTron, what's your local pizza guys number? ;p
05:11 <DrJoeTron> i have many
05:11 <DrJoeTron> and i dont want a pizza right now
05:11 <spidey> meh
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> send him some chinese food
05:11 <spidey> i hate chinese food
05:11 <spidey> o.o
05:11 <DrJoeTron> too bad
05:11 <DrJoeTron> i want some
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you're missing out, spidey
05:12 <spidey> bah
05:12 <DrJoeTron> beef fried rice = <3
05:12 <spidey> yuck
05:12 <spidey> stuff looks like snot ;p
05:12 <DrJoeTron> oh man its great
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> homemade wontons = <3
05:12 <DrJoeTron> eggrolls!
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> I love cooking it, I love eating it, I love hearing my daughter say "Daddy, you cook the best chinese food ever!"
05:12 <spidey> want some of my leftover puke? ;d
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> does it taste good?
05:13 <spidey> tastes like chinese!
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> you should know, you've already tasted it twice
05:13 <spidey> indeed
05:13 <DrJoeTron> bah dup tss
05:13 <DrJoeTron> dibs on the hard parts
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> man, I puked one night after eating some chinese food, and it smelled so good I wanted to eat it again
05:13 <DrJoeTron> i ate a giant burger from wendys the night before
05:13 <DrJoeTron> and got really sick the next morning
05:14 <DrJoeTron> it looked like i didnt digest any of it
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> I get really sick just thinking of that trash they serve at wendy's
05:14 <DrJoeTron> it killed dave thomas
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'll be back, I gotta go hurl
05:14 <DrJoeTron> that man had a quadruple bipass
05:14 <DrJoeTron> and lived!
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> man, I worked at SOnic for 4 1/2 years.  now I hate hamburgers.
05:14 <spidey> wendys sucks
05:15 <spidey> mcdonals pwns ;p
05:15 <DrJoeTron> wendys rules
05:15 <DrJoeTron> we dont have a sonic around here
05:15 <spidey> we do
05:15 <DrJoeTron> i wish we did
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> nah, you guys probably have A&W up there, don't you?
05:15 <spidey> i like cystals double bacon chessburgers
05:15 <DrJoeTron> its fairly scarce
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> sonic is all over the place down here
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> you can't drive down a road with 2 or more lanes in it without passing a sonic
05:15 <DrJoeTron> hey ive found A&W in texas when i was there
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's sickening, it really is.
05:16 <Your_mom_arma> i could go for some white castle now
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> they're around a bit, mostly farther north
05:16 <DrJoeTron> yeah i wanna go to mcdonalds, 99cent double cheese burger
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> there's at least one here in town, though.  My wife wanted to take me there.  I asked her what she thought I was going to order from a burger place.
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> We went to Chuy's instead :)
05:16 <DrJoeTron> we have 8 thousand steak and shakes
05:17 <DrJoeTron> its so gross
05:17 <DrJoeTron> i can eat there once a year
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I just don't eat fast food anymore.  It's all fucking nasty.
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> I'd rather eat dirt, seriously!
05:17 <DrJoeTron> Wowee!
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> or not at all.  I've gone hungry because my wife brought home sonic food for dinner and forgot to order me some.  I thanked her for not ordering me some and she thought I was mad at her.
05:18 <DrJoeTron> one thing keeping be bound to chicago is deep dish pizza
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  Oh yeah.  Our best "Chicago-style" pizza place is going out of business.  :(
05:18 <DrJoeTron> oh man
05:18 <DrJoeTron> its soo big
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> they lost their spot down on the drag, and they closed their round rock store
05:18 <DrJoeTron> if you eat like2 slices, your done
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm having to make pizza from scratch now, can you believe it?
05:18 <Your_mom_arma> chicago style pizzas gross at least around here
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> don't you live where you can get buffalo wings that don't taste like spidey's last dump?
05:19 <DrJoeTron> every where else ive eaten pizza's chicago style it was like american cheese and ketchup sauce
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've never eaten genuine chicago-style pizza, but Conan's put a lot of good stuff in the sauce
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> mozzarella cheese, how can you put anything else?
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> my own sauce has basil, red pepper, paprika, oregano, and a little bit of garlic
05:20 <DrJoeTron> dominoes uses fucking goat cheese
05:20 <DrJoeTron> its so wretched
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> dominoes would be the King of Sucky Pizza if it weren't for Pizza Hut
05:20 <Your_mom_arma> just skip the pizza and get a real philli cheese steak
05:20 <DrJoeTron> haha
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'll take that cheese steak.  :)
05:20 <DrJoeTron> yeah same here
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> down here we get variations made with smoked brisket.  :)
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm glad we're all in agreement that it's really hard to fuck up a cheese steak
05:22 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:22 <GodTodd> as long as you have good meat
05:22 <GodTodd> ;)
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I worked at a place where they made it with lamb and it was still good
05:23 <DrJoeTron> lamby lamb's lamb hut?
05:23 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> there's a place in a mall up near you, GodTodd, that has really awesome cheese steaks.  Surprising for a mall shop.
05:23 <DrJoeTron> i need to find a job
05:23 <GodTodd> what's the name of it?
05:24 <DrJoeTron> especially since my school is more tha n likely be on strike
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I forgot which mall, though, and the name of the place.
05:24 <GodTodd> heh
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> you guys have Golden Chick up there?
05:24 <GodTodd> some
05:24 <GodTodd> yeah
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> man, they're putting a Church's in down the road, closer than the Golden Chick.
05:24  * Lucifer_arma loves fried chicken
05:24 <GodTodd> fried chicken rules
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> and Church's > Golden Chick (golden chick puts too much salt in their breading)
05:25 <GodTodd> problem is that they charge too fucking much for chicken
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, Golden Chick came down here and bought up all the Golden Fried Chicken stores, which sucks because Golden Fried was the best fucking fried chicken ever
05:25 <GodTodd> when i can get 10 lbs of pieces for $3.....i don't like paying $1 a piece :/
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, you can't even make it from scratch for that price
05:26 <GodTodd> i can
05:26  * Lucifer_arma makes a pretty good fried chicken
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> 10 lb chicken for $3?  no way.
05:26 <GodTodd> yep...a lot of times i can get .29 a lb
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> not in austin, anyway.
05:26  * Self_Destructo make a really good grilled chicken ;)
05:27 <DrJoeTron> steamed hams
05:27 <GodTodd> just gotta skin it and make up the breading
05:27 <GodTodd> then stand and fry
05:27 <GodTodd> but that's all good
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> lowest chicken prices I've ever seen was .69/lb
05:27 <DrJoeTron> oh god
05:27 <DrJoeTron> home made mozzarella sticks
05:27 <GodTodd> man...that's too much
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen turkey reach .29/lb, right after thanksgiving.  I stocked up on that shit.  :)
05:27 <DrJoeTron> thats the thing about living close to wisconsin
05:28 <DrJoeTron> everything is still deepfried and or covered in cheese
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> too many people with accents you can't hope to understand?
05:28 <GodTodd> usually it's the mexican stores that have it that cheap
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> my experience in wisconsin is that nobody up there knows how to deep fry anything
05:28 <DrJoeTron> damn
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> mexican stores?
05:28 <GodTodd> wisconsin blows
05:28 <DrJoeTron> everywhere ive been to is that they dont know what they cant deep fry
05:28 <GodTodd> yeah...the ones in the mexican part of town
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> so regular grocery stores in the mexican part of town?
05:31  * Lucifer_arma notes that there isn't a mexican part of austin, really
05:31 <GodTodd> wtf do all these stores thing $1 an avocado is a good price?
05:31 <GodTodd> no....like stores with Abierto and Cerrado on the doors :)
05:31 <GodTodd> errrr
05:32 <GodTodd> those *referring* to doors
05:32 <GodTodd> but you go in the Entrada door
05:33 <GodTodd> they're the ones where i get my avocados for guacamole
05:33 <GodTodd> 3/$1
05:33 <GodTodd> sometimes 4/$1
05:37 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: weren't you in wisconsin for a while before?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> a week
05:37 <GodTodd> what part?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> milwaukee
05:37 <GodTodd> ahhh
05:37 <GodTodd> i was there over the weekend...kept thinking you had said something before about wisconsin
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06:14 <Lucifer_arma> why isn't my account filter working?!?
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> I hate it when I decide to rewrite a part of a program, then stop in the middle and leave it alone for months
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's like the dumbest thing you can do
06:15 <DrJoeTron> mom can you watch pig sty?
06:15 <DrJoeTron> i had to kick like 4 people
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> now I come back and realize I've learned so much about qt in the meantime that I compeltely wrote this panel the wrong way to begin with :(
06:16 <DrJoeTron> banned 1
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> he's a killer, alright
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07:46 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:48 <GodTodd> wonder if i'd get in trouble using a sorting algorithm....since my teacher hasn't introduced them yet...
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08:12 <Lucifer_arma> sorting algorithm for what?
08:18 <GodTodd> to find the lowest of 5 test scores
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> this is a really weird bug.  All other accounts are showing the right balance except one, which is showing nothing
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> he wants you to find the lowest of 5 test scores but he hasn't introduced sorting?
08:20 <GodTodd> yep
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> what's he trying to teach you right now?  Conditionals?
08:21 <GodTodd> nah...we're past that....we're doing functions and reference variables
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, actually that could be a minimum problem.  Sometimes you've got to find the minimum/maximum value of a set and you can't sort it for some reason
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> because sorting it would modify the set, and if you copy and then sort, you're doing a) too much work and b) something that won't produce a reference to the data in the set
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> so you just loop through it, not terribly difficult
08:22 <GodTodd> using ifs or what?
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, if it's an array, use a for loop
08:23 <GodTodd> specifically can't use arrays yet
08:23 <GodTodd> heh
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> create two variables, one that holds the lowest value and one that holds 
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm then
08:23 <GodTodd> :)
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> wait, how is the data stored?  no array at all?  5 different variables?
08:23 <GodTodd> yep
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> then it's not a set.  Er, this sounds like busy work now.
08:24 <GodTodd> one function to get the values, one function to drop the lowest and one function to average the 4 highest
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> do something useful and figure out why one single account in the whole chart won't show a balance or debits or credits
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> but if I filter the ledger, it shows up with everything correct except the balance.
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> aha, that's not so hard then
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> a static variable to hold the lowest
08:25 <GodTodd> probably not...i'm just not seeing it
08:25 <GodTodd> heh
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> keep a running total of all test scores, then subtract the lowest
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, something like that.  See, you didn't tell me the relationship between the variables.  :)
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> it's different if it's 5 students with 1 test and 1 student with 5 tests....
08:26 <GodTodd> it's one student with 5 tests :P
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> do you have to have the 3 functions like that, or is that just what you were thinking of doing?
08:27 <GodTodd> the problem says we have to have all 3 functions like that
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so in the function to get the values, you run a for loop to get 5 values
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> from there you call another function that computes the running balance
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, it's not python, is it?  ;)
08:28  * Lucifer_arma was going to have you getting a tuple from that function
08:29 <GodTodd> no...heh...i have to call the value getting function 5 times (directions)
08:29 <GodTodd> it wants a function call from main once for each value
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the idea is that you basically have a Validate function that you call with every input, and that function does the work of keeping a running total and dropping the lowest
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> you use a static variable in that function to store the current lowest, and with each call you compare it to the test score passed in
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> another static variable, er, can you use static variables?
08:30 <GodTodd> should be able to
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, another static variable would keep the running total including all tests, and you return the running total - lowest score from this function
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> with the 5th call what you get is the running total you actually need, the first 4 calls being values you can throw away
08:31 <GodTodd> well...the lowestScore function *only* returns the lowest
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> it has to return the lowest?
08:32 <GodTodd> yep
08:32 <GodTodd> and calcAverage averages the 4 highest
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> that's still fine.  Keep the running total in your loop then instead.  :)
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> the key concept is that you use a static variable in the lowestScore function to keep track of the lowest score
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> you basically do with each call to lowestScore something like this:  if current < lowest: lowest = current;
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> where lowest is static float (or static int)
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> and current is passed as a parameter
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> static makes the variable keep its value between function calls.  Unlike normal function variables, it doesn't get deleted when the function returns.
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, I'm not seeing that third function that does the averaging being anything but gratuitous
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> see, if you keep a running total during the input, then after the loop (where you've stored the lowest test score) you subtract the lowest from the running total and do total/4 for the answer
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> no need for another function call
08:37 <GodTodd> i know...i think they're teaching "concepts" tho :/
08:37 <GodTodd> as opposed to good logic
08:37 <GodTodd> heh
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> design is a different class :)
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> so you get the thing with the static variable?  static variables are a little tricky to handle for some kids...
08:38 <GodTodd> yeah...i think so
08:39  * Lucifer_arma notes that python doesn't have static variables and it's a pain sometimes, but not very often
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> so, I made sure the transaction in question is balanced.  It now throws an exception at that point if it's not.  So the data is "correct", but why the hell is it being ignored?
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> worse yet, it's *not* being ignored.  One account is being counted and balanced.  Arg.
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I found it
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> I think
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  my balancing algorithm is fundamentally flawed
08:42  * Lucifer_arma curses that he left this code in a half-finished state for months
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, I fixed it.  Now I need to figure out why the fix worked.  :)
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> aha, ok.  Sometimes I manage to amaze myself.
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> now for the split editor :)
08:55 <GodTodd> heh
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> it was a case where I called a function twice, and both times it should've initialized values, meaning the second call should have clobbered the results of the first operation
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> er.  Ok, first compute debits.  Where it calls the SetupInterval, which sets the debits and credits for the interval to 0
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> Then compute credits, which calls the same function.  Looks like it should clobber the work of compute debits, right?
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> aha, but I was smart, and that function only initializes the values if the interval hasn't already been created.  If it has been created, it does nothing.  :)
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> I wrote that months ago.  Must have been on the verge of being a psychic or something.
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> because when I wrote it, I didn't have compute debits and credits separate, but I needed it that way to fix the problem I was just having.
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, split editor.  Meaning I have to master QTable.
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18:01 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails race
18:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: RaceToWinzone (Testversion): No online players.
18:01 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v race
18:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: RaceToWinzone (Testversion) ( running 0.2.8_beta4 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetron.de, Description: “RaceToWinzone aka "American Race"“, No online players.
18:02 <wrtlprnft> wow, this is an old version there. But how is voodo posting the script if iF wrote it?
18:02 <wrtlprnft> iF never gives out sources, it seems
18:03 <wrtlprnft> ah, there's another one
18:03  * wrtlprnft goes join it
18:03 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v coodoo
18:03 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “coodoo” at the moment, sorry.
18:03 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v voodoo
18:03 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Voodoo's Race to Winzone (test) ( running unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
18:14 <wrtlprnft> hmm, not as genious as i expected, the maps are static… anyways, still better than iF's server
18:16 <wrtlprnft> oh, the script is actually generating random maps, though, nice. He just doesn't seem to be using it
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19:04 <mkzelda> what was the name of the bridge, built around 1920-1950? in california?, famous footage of it swaying/bending/collapsing, looked like waves
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19:04 <mkzelda> jeeves and google dont know cause im not asking the right thing i guess
19:05 <Commn> mkzelda
19:05 <mkzelda> yes
19:06 <mkzelda> GIMP used to have the video in the splash screen
19:06 <Commn> trying to find it
19:06 <Commn> one sec
19:07 <Commn> Tacoma Narrows Bridge
19:09 <mkzelda> ty
19:09 <mkzelda> trying to prove a point in the area of civil engineering
19:13 <Commn> what point?
19:17 <mkzelda> simple one, dont do that ;)
19:17 <Commn> lol
19:18 <Commn> good point :)
19:18 <Commn> but yeah that was hard to find in google
19:18 <Commn> i think 
19:18 <Commn> bridge cassette commercial got me further
19:18 <Commn> cause it was in that maxhell or whatever commercial
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20:02 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: wiki down?
20:02 <wrtlprnft> nvm, just responded, after 1.5 minutes of waiting
20:19 <spidey> mmmm
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20:39 <madmax|pt> hi
20:47 <[dlh]> hello
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21:21 <ljr_work> What's with naming FreeNode servers after plagerisers anyhow?
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21:39 <DrJoeTron> yay
21:40 <DrJoeTron> Defcon is comming out for mac and linux in november
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22:31 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || The Tavern [armagetronad.de] (8 players) || Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (7 players) || |AST| Fortress (7 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || ~}Six ~}Dragons{~ Server{~ (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (6 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (5 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (5 (1 more message)
22:31 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails Z-Man's Tournament Fortress
22:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress: Players (6/16): 20, AshitakA, Crotchkicker, madmax, Nii, van Nelle
22:31 <Niii> \o/
22:32 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails |AST| Fortress
22:32 <Vanhayes> heh
22:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “|ast| fortress” at the moment, sorry.
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22:39 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen hyphy Leopard
22:39 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Hyphy Leopard has last been seen on {WPN} |Fortress|  15 hours 42 minutes ago.
22:40 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen diggin
22:40 <armabot> DrJoeTron: digginfreeworld has last been seen on Capture The Flag Sty 59 hours 46 minutes ago.
22:40 <DrJoeTron>  :/
22:40 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen iceman
22:40 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Iceman has last been seen on Tigers Network Classic Play 233 hours 25 minutes ago.
22:40 <DrJoeTron> hah
22:41 <Vanhayes> #g 233 hours in days
22:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: 233 hours = 9.70833333 days
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's how long my last sexual encounter lasted
22:50 <GodTodd> is your hand tired?
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> you get that program written?
22:51 <GodTodd> nah...not yet...was doing trig and cleaning today
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> ooo trig.  You guys past the y/r x/r boring crap?
22:58 <GodTodd> yeah
22:59 <GodTodd> did vectors and radians last week
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> vectors?  already?
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> vectors were at the very end of my trig class, but I guess it doesn't matter.  You only need to know sin, cos, and tan to do vectors, so you can do them anytime after that :)
23:02 <GodTodd> yeah...we were doing adding and subtracting them...stuff like that
23:02 <GodTodd> finding how much work is done...that kinda thing
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> dot product, cross product?
23:03 <GodTodd> ?
23:03 <GodTodd> heh
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> I guess not.  :)  That's multipliccation of vectors.  :)
23:03 <GodTodd> nope...haven't done that yet
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> I just got nailed from both ends with vectors, in physics and in calc 3, but I decided to basically ignore the physics vectors because they were throwing me off
23:04 <GodTodd> you got nailed from both ends? sounds painful...or fun
23:04 <GodTodd> heh
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, cross product doesn't really exist for 2 dimensions, so unless you guys are working in a 3d coordinate system you probably won't do them
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, the problem was this:
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> in physics they gave us vectors as a magnitude and an angle.  Like 5 m/s at 30 degrees
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> but in calc 3 they said that was wussy, and instead we did vectors with brackets and i,j,k
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> so <3,4> or 3i + 4j
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> of course in 3 dimensions that would be <3,4,0> or 3i+4j+0k (but the 0k is removed for obvious reasons)
23:06 <GodTodd> yeah
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> so anyway, the physics problems were basically trig problems, meanwhile they were showing me more advanced ways to solve those same types of problems in calc 3
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> and in calc 3 you solve those same problems you did way back when just as a refresher, because soon we'll take on problems they're telling us right now in physics that we can't do yet
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> so one teacher is saying "You can't do this yet with what you know" while the other is saying "Now you know how to do this"
23:08 <GodTodd> heh
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> I've been thinking back on it though and I don't think there was a good time for me to take this physics class.  It requires trig (obviously),
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> so either I could take it now, last summer, or last spring, and there's no point along the way since trig where this physics class wouldn't have fucked with my head
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> because of the way it conflicts with the calc classes I've been taking.
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> word to the wise, get all your physics prereqs out of the way before you start calculus, if at all possible.
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> but you took high school physics, right?
23:10 <GodTodd> yeah
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> if you were in my school you'd have smooth sailing.  :)  I'm only taking this physics class because I didn't take high school physics--it's a high school physics class essentially
23:11 <GodTodd> :)
23:12  * Lucifer_arma is considering that maybe he should've just signed up for the calculus-based physics and blown off this class
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5387062.stm
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> people in colorado are nuts
23:19 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
23:19  * deja_vu announces that he is stupid *.*
23:20 <deja_vu> i just moved /bin (including mount) to a tmpfs mounted noexec ><
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> that was pretty fucking stupid
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> :P
23:33 <deja_vu> yes.
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> #g 59 inches in feet
23:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 59 inches = 4.91666667 feet
23:35  * Lucifer_arma demonstrates he's not much smarter
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> #g 36 inches in feet
23:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 36 inches = 3 feet
23:37 <deja_vu> well.. i wanted to have a clean install anyway ><
23:37 <deja_vu> hm
23:37 <deja_vu> can freebsd be installed from HDD?

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