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--- Day changed Sat Sep 23 2006
00:00 <luke-jr_work> omg
00:00 <luke-jr_work> some people are STUPID
00:00 <luke-jr_work> I get this guy who wants hosting, and he asks questions and stuff and I answer
00:01 <luke-jr_work> so 10 emails or so down the thread he's ready to buy
00:01 <Vanhayes> wow what an idiot
00:01 <luke-jr_work> then I get
00:01 <luke-jr_work> "What's Armagetron?" "my game is Half Life 1"
00:01 <DrJoeTron> sweet
00:01 <DrJoeTron> haha half life 1
00:01 <luke-jr_work> Needless to say my site says *Armagetron* hosting, not Half Life 1
00:01 <luke-jr_work> not to mention the 5+ emails I said *Armagetron*
00:04 <Vanhayes> heh that is an idiot then
00:05 <luke-jr_work> he deserves to have had pay me first for wasting my time
00:05 <luke-jr_work> oh well
00:06 <Vanhayes> so luke are you making a good amount with hosting?
00:06 <luke-jr_work> no
00:07 <Vanhayes> well are you at least not losing money?
00:07 <luke-jr_work> I think so, barely
00:07 <luke-jr_work> had to raise my prices
00:07 <DrJoeTron> why dont you host for half life 1?
00:07 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: it's not open source
00:08 <DrJoeTron> thats a retarded reason 
00:08 <luke-jr_work> not at all
00:09 <DrJoeTron> beggars cant be choosers :d
00:09 <luke-jr_work> who's begging?
00:09 <DrJoeTron> why dont you try with bzflag
00:09 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma discouraged me from trying with bzflag
00:09 <luke-jr_work> I should do some Freeciv testing tho
00:10 <luke-jr_work> so I can lower my prices (I hope) for Freeciv
00:10 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: bzflag sucks
00:11 <DrJoeTron> it really does
00:11 <wrtlprnft> on a technical level too
00:11 <DrJoeTron> it was fun when i was on dial up
00:11 <DrJoeTron> really?
00:11 <wrtlprnft> well, the clients do all the physics
00:11 <wrtlprnft> the server only transmits them
00:11 <DrJoeTron> thats retarded
00:11 <wrtlprnft> so if you hack your client to make your tank twice as fast, it will be twice as fast
00:12 <DrJoeTron> yeah thats what i thought instantly
00:12 <wrtlprnft> other than arma, where the client does the physics only for local display, but in the end what the server thinks counts
00:13 <wrtlprnft> so if you make your cycle twice as fast you'll just get huge lag effects and be an easy kill for others
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00:13 <wrtlprnft> hi ghableska 
00:13 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
00:13 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes, wrtlprnft
00:14  * luke-jr_work is well aware that bzflag sucks on a tech level ;p
00:14 <luke-jr_work> the authors basically came out and told me
00:14 <Vanhayes> you know it sucks when...
00:14 <ghableska> lol
00:15 <DrJoeTron> haha
00:15 <wrtlprnft> well, arma has its own sucky things, but they don't allow cheating :P
00:15 <wrtlprnft> the UI sucks, for example
00:16 <DrJoeTron> the keyboard mapping is worse i think
00:16 <wrtlprnft> ?
00:16 <luke-jr_work> and worst of all
00:16 <luke-jr_work> bzflag causes my box to freeze up
00:16 <wrtlprnft> haha
00:16 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: well, it allows double binding, but it's a nice feature on other ends
00:17 <luke-jr_work> so does Arma, but at least it's not predictably before the game starts...
00:17 <wrtlprnft> for example I use left, right, down usually for stearing where down is brake
00:17 <luke-jr_work> you can't stop doublebinding
00:17 <wrtlprnft> but if i play on a server where you use the brake all the time (shooting, race, etc) it gets a bit awkward to steer like that
00:18 <wrtlprnft> so i have a second brake key
00:18 <wrtlprnft> so infact i have an accel/shoot and a brake key, even though they do the same thing
00:18 <DrJoeTron> the problem is if you use th ekyboard for moving, after a certain point you just stop moving and have to press the button again
00:18 <DrJoeTron> rather tahn using the mouse for constant throttle
00:20 <Vanhayes> well Id like to see ramps and flying cycles in tron, if you get that Ill be happy
00:21 <wrtlprnft> flying cycles? how would that work?
00:22 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:22 <luke-jr_work> 3D
00:23 <luke-jr_work> I have some non-functional code for it
00:23 <luke-jr_work> the cycle *appears* to fly tho
00:23 <luke-jr_work> but collisions are still 2D :(
00:24 <luke-jr_work> and the smart camera makes it difficult to see if you're at the same height as something else
00:25 <Vanhayes> im thinking the wall is anchored to the ground, the cycle can fly but once your off the ground your speed drops and you slowly make it to the ground
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: I forgot to mention on the forums that there is a trac plugin for tagging the wiki, I don't know if branching is directly supported.
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> directly supported = directly supported by the tagging plugin
00:26 <luke-jr_work> hrm
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, there are UI issues.  I mean, it can be done really well, or relaly poorly.
00:26 <luke-jr_work> I really think it would make sense to simply use libsvn or such for the wiki backend =p
00:27 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: ah
00:27 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: so jumping?
00:27 <Vanhayes> basically
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> don't do that!  You might piss off Louven!
00:27 <luke-jr_work> so no wall when in the air? =p
00:27 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: Louven hasn't paid me to spend my time working on something else =p
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> walls in the air would be awesome!  You'd build arches every time you jump!  (obviously an item for a config option)
00:28 <Vanhayes> ya a wall when your in the air, i guess my picture of it is really more ramps and gliding than flying
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> and if the jump is modeled as a quadratic, the arches would even be technically correct.  :)
00:29  * Lucifer_arma goes off to make a test arma trac
00:29 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: should I commit my 3D Arma to a branch so you can play with it? ;p
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> heh, maybe in a few weeks or so, you know, after my calculus class really gets cranking with 3d functions :)
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> we're doing lines and planes right now, surfaces are coming
00:31 <luke-jr_work> =p
00:31  * Lucifer_arma has finally made it to the 3d calculus class and is really enjoying it.
00:31 <luke-jr_work> more or less, eCoord has a 'z' and cycle rendering works with it
00:31 <luke-jr_work> and by default, z=0.01 or smth
00:31 <luke-jr_work> (direction)
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> is the game smart and uses vectors internally for everything?  That's going to be needed...
00:32 <luke-jr_work> ?
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> cycle movement.  It should be a vector where the magnitude is m/s and the direction is, um, direction.
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> for 3d, it should be a 3d vector, obviously.
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> I say that because I'm learning right now that that's how it has to be done in 3 dimensions.  An equation of a line is a point and a vector, for example.
00:34 <luke-jr_work> wtf is a magnitude? :)
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's not a serious question, is it?
00:35 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: afaik movement is vx/vy now
00:35 <luke-jr_work> but direction is an eCoord, which has x, y, and z vars
00:35 <wrtlprnft> or (vx,vy) to be exact
00:35 <wrtlprnft> eCoord is (x,y)
00:35 <luke-jr_work> eCoord is (x,y,z)
00:35 <wrtlprnft> we don't have 3dimensional coordinates
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> (vx, vy) would be slope in a funky notation, wouldn't it?
00:35 <luke-jr_work> we do in the branch we're talking about
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> wait, maybe it's <vx, vy>  ?
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> in which case you add vz, <vx, vy, vz> ?
00:36 <wrtlprnft> (vx, vy) is a pair of two values
00:36 <wrtlprnft> nothing about slope
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> which indicate change on the x and y axis respectively?
00:36 <wrtlprnft> yeah
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's a vector, isn't it?  ;)
00:37 <luke-jr_work> anyone know what a "network name" is?
00:37 <wrtlprnft> if you're doing jumps it's waaay easier to calculate with that than with polar vectors
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> ?  who said anything about polar vectors?
00:37 <luke-jr_work> when vValues can be sync'd, we can add slope support =p
00:38 <wrtlprnft> ah, that's why you can't work on it, because you're paid by louven?
00:38 <wrtlprnft> boo
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00:39  * luke-jr_work wonders who and wtf wrtlprnft is talking about
00:39 <wrtlprnft> aren't slopes something that louven wouldn't want?
00:39 <luke-jr_work> so?
00:39 <luke-jr_work> I said that if Louven wants to block me from doing stuff, he'll need to pay me to do something different =p
00:40 <wrtlprnft> oh, nvm
00:40 <luke-jr_work> how do you plan to implement a slope w/o syncable vValues?
00:40 <wrtlprnft> i thought you said he DID pay you
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> slope?  implement vectors instead.  Slope is basically a vector anyway, just written weird.
00:40 <luke-jr_work> i wish lol
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> this might take awhile for the thing to index armagetronad svn repository :(
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:41 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:41 <Vanhayes> was there a bug where you could see someones colour code in .3 if your name was one letter or number that was in the code?
00:42 <wrtlprnft> that was in an alpha before 0.3, IIRC
00:42 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma aka 7 discovered that
00:43 <wrtlprnft> given that “7” is part of lots of color codes
00:43 <Vanhayes> well my name is a and i can see betu's colourcodes when he talks
00:43 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:44 <Vanhayes> ya happens with someone else too
00:44 <Your_mom_arma> Oxaaff22
00:44 <wrtlprnft> Only idiots write in colors all  the time!
00:46 <Your_mom_arma> Vanhayes: enable_name_hilighting 0 if you dont want to see them
00:46 <Vanhayes> nah i was just switch my name around it it looked weird
00:47 <Vanhayes> 87fa99fa is what is says
00:47 <Vanhayes> which is weird
00:47 <Vanhayes> the 87fa is a different colour too
00:48 <wrtlprnft> umm
00:48 <wrtlprnft> a) what was your name
00:48 <wrtlprnft> b) what exactly did the other guy say
00:49 <wrtlprnft> c) what appeared on your screen?
00:51 <wrtlprnft> g'night now, finally
00:52 <Vanhayes> a) a    b)anything he said it showed up c) 87fa99fa¡lol!«­betu­»   weird b,e,t, and u
00:54 <Your_mom_arma> hes in wpn and was likely writing in colors
00:55 <Vanhayes> i got him to say something normally and it showed up
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01:08 <Lucifer_arma> don't you mean WPON?  We Pwn Only Noobs?
01:09 <Compn> lol
01:09 <Vanhayes> heh
01:09 <Compn> how come there isnt like a big ultimate arma tourney?
01:09 <Compn> round robin where we see who is where on the ladder!
01:11 <DrJoeTron> i hate durka's signature
01:11 <DrJoeTron> its like everypost is one big thread shit from him
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron:  rtb?
01:25 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
01:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || |AST| Fortress (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (9 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (4 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (3 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (2 players) || PIXELPARTY VOICECHAT (1 more message)
01:26 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma sure give me  few min
01:30 <DrJoeTron> sweet gomes is online
01:45 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma wanna play for a bit?
01:45 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
01:45 <DrJoeTron> i'll put up a server
01:45 <Vanhayes> #lastseen ghableska 
01:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: ghableska seems to be on  |AST|  Fortress right now.
01:47 <ghableska> :D
01:47 <ghableska> works
01:47 <Vanhayes> heh yup
01:48 <DrJoeTron> its up
02:12 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"]
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=governmentFilingsNews&storyID=2006-09-21T233232Z_01_N21414074_RTRIDST_0_HEALTH-SPINACH-UPDATE-2.XML&pageNumber=0&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=InvArt-C1-ArticlePage3
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> as much spinach as we eat in my house, I feel like I had a bullet just whiz past my head
02:53 <anjori> yeah. heard about that the other day. i wanted to get some spinach the other night, and even though we're probably not effected up here, i decided against it
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> they say frozen spinach is safe, though.  I normally stir-fry my spinach, so I probably don't have to have it fresh.
02:57 <anjori> while you're around, i've been meaning to ask you about this svn thing. i use "svn add https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pyalarm pyalarm
02:57 <anjori> " (being the address i got from the SF site), expecting a prompt, but get "[URL] is not a working copy"
02:57 <anjori> and unfortunately, the included documentation sucks
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> ah, have you done a checkout already?
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> the cycle is to first do a checkout, then modify locally, then commit changes.
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> also, while we're at it, would you object terribly to switching to use the svn repository on my server in the next 10 minutes or so?
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> I accidentally got my svn server working the other night and would prefer to use it over sourceforge's.  I can wait a few months or whatever if you'd rather just get in with sourceforge's now, get used to it, and then move later.
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> The move itself is inevitable, but nothing requires it to be immediate.
03:07 <anjori> if it makes no difference to how i'd contribute, i don't see the problem. would that mean moving the project off of SF altogether, or just svn?
03:07 <anjori> in the end, you know what you're doing, i'm still getting there. i'll trust your judgement :)
03:07 <Compn> #armaservers
03:07 <armabot> Compn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (7 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (6 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || The Lobster Cage (5 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (5 players) || -=|LøÏ|=- Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server (4 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Temporary Arena {100MBit} (3 players) || (1 more message)
03:08 <Compn> everyone stopped playing fortress again damnit
03:08  * anjori doesn't usually play until later at night. 
03:09 <anjori> though lately i havent been playing much at all
03:09 <anjori> oh, but you mean regular fortress. so everything i just said is irrelevant
03:12 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
03:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 51 seconds old; /-\|)/-\/\/\, <<Gaby>>, <<newt>>, =(S)=Impulse, alf, aZ, Ballentyne, Billy Madison, Bumbolo, Chibi-Robo, command.com, Goodygumdrops, Grimm Reaper, hxkarl, jackknife, Johneyy!, kaleab, Kamakazi, killer, KOKAINE LINE, Kraig, Lord Dexkdes, Lorelei, Major Tom, master_vivi99, nevo guy, Pinganillo, Plastik, PrInCeSsPurple, RedPimp, Slush, STEALTH SHADOW, Timmy, vampire doll, (1 more message)
03:12 <Vanhayes> #more
03:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: {onfiGure_[X], |WPN|W|$K-man$, ~)*(~ FB Sparky, ~*SP*~AppleZ, ~*SP*~CYCLOTRON, ~Bird, ~{GP}~viper, ~}SD{~DaRkAnGeL, °¯°3dot °°¯
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://dsac.davefancella.com/wiki/DevelopmentDocs  <--- some help for you
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> it means moving the svn stuff.  we'll still use sourceforge for releases.  In fact, that means all we'll use sourceforge for are the mailing list, release hosting, and PR
03:20 <anjori> so is it as simple as you move it now, i checkout from the new svn tree, and then commit the changes as i would with the current sf tree?
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's pretty simple.  The only thing that changes is the url for checkout.  And that my svn server may be less reliable than sourceforge's on the whole, but it's pretty good for the most part.
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> here, you can try a checkout and see hwo it goes.  :)
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh, let me remember the url real quick
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsac/dsac/trunk/dsac
03:23 <anjori> and i take it you can post a release separately on SF without having a development tree there?
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, sourceforge is really flexible on the services they offer.  You can use them just as a freshmeat copy if you want, or you can use everything they offer, or anything in between
03:23 <anjori> ah, okay.
03:24 <anjori> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.davefancella.com:443':
03:24 <anjori>  - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the
03:24 <anjori>    fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!
03:24 <anjori>  - The certificate hostname does not match.
03:24 <anjori> Certificate information:
03:24 <anjori>  - Hostname: localhost
03:24 <anjori>  - Valid: from Mar 30 01:29:45 2006 GMT until Mar 30 01:29:45 2007 GMT
03:24 <anjori>  - Issuer: For testing purposes only, Apache HTTP Server
03:24 <anjori>  - Fingerprint: 4f:92:c2:a1:82:6f:5b:f3:98:f3:fe:81:5f:57:06:ac:f5:ba:b0:88
03:24 <anjori> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently?     
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> type "p" if you trust my server :)
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> all that means is my ssl certificate hasn't been registered with one of the credential whores
03:25 <anjori> k. just wanted to be sure it was known.
03:26 <anjori> isnt it thousands of bucks to register with one of them?
03:28 <anjori> is there a way i can browse within my web browser, like on SF?
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> yep
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03:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://dsac.davefancella.com/browser
03:29 <anjori> cool.
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> there's an alternate browser too
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm.  There *was* an alternate browser
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> apparently I accidentally disabled it at some point.  the svn module for apache provides a basic svn browser
03:31 <anjori> oh! i was going to tell you, i was able to duplicate the icon bug in both kde and fluxbox. it happened to me twice in kde, once in flux. the rest of the time it loaded as normal.
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> wait, it wasn't accidental because I want to use my svn repository for stuff that's confidential.
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that's good news I guess.
03:32 <anjori> and in gnome, as was mentioned before, it happens every time.  so i'm guessing it's the order that things get loaded and if one service comes up quicker than the other
03:32  * Lucifer_arma checks to see if he put it on the tracker
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I put it in the tracker
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I agree it has something to do with the order the services are loaded, I think just tossing a timer in there will get it
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> you know, wait like 4 seconds or something and then create the systray icon
03:35 <anjori> right
03:37 <anjori> if, by chance, two people were adding changes at the same time, svn can take care of that, right?
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes there are conflicts that have to be resolved manually, though.
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> and obviously let me know if it fails to write for some reason.  :)
03:39 <anjori> anjori@1[dsac]$ svn add README https://svn.davefancella.com/dsac/dsac/trunk/dsac
03:39 <anjori> svn: warning: 'README' is already under version control
03:39 <anjori> svn: 'https://svn.davefancella.com/dsac/dsac/trunk' is not a working copy
03:39 <anjori> i'll get the hang of this one day
03:40 <anjori> err, maybe i should read the doc i opened instead of asking you ;)
03:42 <anjori> okay, i see how it's down. i was thinking that you do add for each file and _then_ commit everything. 
03:42 <anjori> *done
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> did you commit something yet?  ;)
03:46 <anjori> just did
03:46 <anjori> and then would i update my local copy after i added it back, or only when someone else has modified it?
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I see it now.  :)
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> update before you start working, then work, then commit
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's the general flow of things.  If you *know* someone else (me) is working at the same time, you might want to update frequently while working
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> if you've changed a file locally, and then svn wants to change it during an update, you get a conflict reported, you don't lose your work, typically.
03:49  * Lucifer_arma wanted to see that the source browser was correctly getting changes in the repo
04:00 <anjori> unrelated question: i have a domain name and pay for shared webhosting. am i able to/is it easy to keep the domain pointing to my site on the webhost, but have a subdomain point to my personal IP? (e.g. for setting up a service that i can't on my webhost, such as a jabber server at jabber.anjori.com)?
04:00 <Luke-Jr> depends on your DNS host
04:00 <anjori> which would lie with the registrar, or the webhost?
04:01 <Luke-Jr> with a proper DNS host, you could setup XMPP for 'anjori.com' on a seperate IP
04:01 <Luke-Jr> neithe
04:01 <Luke-Jr> r
04:01 <Luke-Jr> sometimes the registrar provides minimal to full DNS hosting tho
04:01 <anjori> it's godaddy
04:01 <Luke-Jr> eck
04:02 <Luke-Jr> GoDaddy is evil
04:02 <Luke-Jr> but I don't remember if their DNS hosting was minimal or full
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04:02 <Luke-Jr> better than no-ip I know
04:02 <Luke-Jr> but that's not saying much
04:02 <anjori> enh, i've been using them for a number of years with no problems
04:03 <Luke-Jr> _xmpp-server._tcp.anjori.com.       SRV 30 30 5269 xmpp.anjori.com.
04:03 <Luke-Jr> _xmpp-client._tcp.anjori.com.       SRV 30 30 5222 xmpp.anjori.com.
04:03 <Luke-Jr> you need DNS entries like those
04:03 <Luke-Jr> plus an A turning xmpp.anjori.com. to an IP
04:03 <Luke-Jr> 5269 and 5222 being standard ports-- you can change them if you like
04:03 <anjori> so probably over the top of my head, than
04:04 <Luke-Jr> depends if GoDaddy supports full DNS hosting
04:04 <Luke-Jr> eg, SRV records
04:06 <Luke-Jr> you *could* always just do an A on jabber.anjori.com, but the standard requires SRV records and many other XMPP servers will refuse to talk to you without it
04:06 <Luke-Jr> eg, Google
04:09 <anjori> i was only curious because jabber.org continues to be shit. it was down for an entire day recently, and i bet i could keep a server up longer. once i figured out how to set it up, of course :)
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04:17 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: your dsac.davefancella.com password is now the same as your svn password, and you should be able to change it at dsac.sourceforge.net
04:24 <anjori> Lucifer_arma: dsac.sourceforge.net? :P
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> er
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> the other place :)
04:24  * Lucifer_arma doesn't know why he typed that, heh
04:26 <anjori> see, you should have spun it and said you were just trying to see if i was paying attention
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> oops, screwed up a bit
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fixed my screwup, heh
04:40 <Luke-Jr> anjori: jabber.org's downtime is blamed on ejabberd using some obscure language
04:41 <Luke-Jr> anjori: my IM server's been more reliable than jabber.org, in my experience
04:41 <Luke-Jr> I imagine it's partly because jabber.org is meant to be a *testing* server, not a stable one
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06:00 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma check out metalocalypse yet?
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06:10 <Your_mom_arma> not yet
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06:12 <DrJoeTron> its rich
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07:19 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma pig wants to play blockland with us sooner or later
07:19 <Your_mom_arma> heh im playing right now
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07:30 <groundpig> what server am i going to for this blockland thing?
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07:36 <Durka> Durka Durka Mohammad Jihad!
07:36 <Durka> hi guys
07:37 <Your_mom_arma> joe you still there?
07:46 <DrJoeTron> sort of
07:46 <DrJoeTron> yeah whats up
07:47 <Your_mom_arma> you guys playing Rtb?
07:47 <DrJoeTron> nope
07:47 <DrJoeTron> if you two wanna make a server go for it
07:48 <DrJoeTron> i might join later, but im not completely positive
07:48 <DrJoeTron> running the server off the client is extremely easy
07:48 <DrJoeTron> its all you really need
07:48 <DrJoeTron> i strongly advise a password though
07:48 <DrJoeTron> because the servers turn into a crap fest fast
07:55 <DrJoeTron> but damn is that game addicting
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15:53 <madmax|pt> hi
15:53 <MaZuffeR> hi
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16:28 <Fonkay> anyone home?
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16:53 <madmax|pt> anyone up for fortress?
17:00 <Compn> fort would be fun
17:00 <Compn> #armaservers
17:00 <armabot> Compn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (12 players) || 135er Uppercutz Berlin --Classsix-- (7 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (7 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (6 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net (5 players) || Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (4 players) || Strawberry (1 more message)
17:01 <Compn> zman tourney it is
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17:21 <Luke-Jr> hmm
17:21 <ghableska> O_o
17:21 <Luke-Jr> for vValue::Parser, should comparison operators be 'eq', '-eq', or something else? ;p
17:24 <Luke-Jr> well, equals might be a bad example
17:25 <Luke-Jr> think greater-than, because it conflicts with XML  ;p
17:26 <Luke-Jr> or maybe we should just use '>' and in practise have people use &gt;
17:26 <Luke-Jr> &gt;= gets a bit long tho
17:26 <Luke-Jr> or maybe CDATA allows us to use raw > within XML
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17:43 <Luke-Jr> #later tell groundpig BTW, do your latest patches integrate *all* your mods, or just CTF?
17:43 <Luke-Jr> dumb bot
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17:52 <madmax|pt> hi Fonkay 
17:54 <Fonkay> hi
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18:29 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
18:29 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
18:33 <spidey> Luke-Jr, it ignores you ;p
18:33  * spidey drop kicks ghableska :D
18:33 <ghableska> ouch
18:33 <spidey> :)
18:35 <spidey> ghableska, you deleted warrock didn't you?
18:35 <Vanhayes> warrock drains my computer
18:35 <ghableska> Yup.
18:35 <spidey> Vanhayes, last night
18:36 <spidey> i played like 6 hours with this level 8 guy
18:36 <Vanhayes> any map thats bigger than emblam is pretty much unplayable with more than 4 people
18:36 <spidey> he showed me some cool stuff, plus helped me learn to fly that small chopper that shoots rockets and a minigun
18:36 <ghableska> haha
18:36 <Luke-Jr> who wants to play Freeciv today?
18:36 <Vanhayes> its been a while
18:36 <spidey> Luke-Jr, i will if atleast 1 more will :p
18:37 <spidey> Vanhayes, i'm sure it's not your computer
18:37 <spidey> how many processes do you have running?
18:37 <Vanhayes> o I know it is
18:37 <Vanhayes> 44
18:38 <spidey> that's your problem
18:38 <Luke-Jr> ...
18:38 <Vanhayes> usually around 40
18:38 <spidey> when i play warrock i have 16 total
18:38 <Luke-Jr> impossible
18:38 <Luke-Jr> OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.17-gentoo/x86_64 - CPU: 1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (2202.854 MHz) - Processes: 288 - Uptime: 19d 21h 46m - Users: 6 - Load Average: 0.16 - Memory Usage: 2516MB/1002MB (250%)
18:38 <spidey> that includes warrock, xchat and teamspeak
18:38 <spidey> Luke-Jr, that's linux
18:38 <Vanhayes> ya well I used to have 60 but I stopped some from starting up
18:38 <spidey> windows can run with only 3 processes
18:38 <Luke-Jr> I doubt it
18:39 <Luke-Jr> more likely windoze lies
18:39 <spidey> wanna bet?
18:39 <ghableska> #g 60 c in f
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18:39 <armabot> ghableska: 60 degrees Celsius = 140 degrees Fahrenheit
18:39 <Vanhayes> hot
18:39 <Luke-Jr> probably hides 100 or so =p
18:39 <spidey> no...
18:39 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint john
18:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 1:19 PM ADT; Today - Cloudy. Periods of rain beginning near noon. Amount 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches developing this afternoon. Wind south 30 km/h gusting to 50. High 15.; Tonight - Periods of rain ending this evening then cloudy. Amount 5 mm. Fog (1 more message)
18:39 <Vanhayes> #more
18:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: patches. Wind south 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming west 20 this evening. Low 12.; Sunday - Cloudy. Rain beginning late in the morning and ending in the evening. Amount 10 mm. Fog patches early in the morning. Fog patches. Wind becoming southwest 40 km/h gusting to 60 in the afternoon. High 17.;
18:39 <ghableska> #g 60 f in c
18:39 <armabot> ghableska: 60 degrees Fahrenheit = 15.5555556 degrees Celsius
18:40 <Luke-Jr> bbl
18:40 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
18:40 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 63.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Sunny. Humidity: 62%. Wind: WSW at 10 mph (16 km/h).
18:40 <Vanhayes> argh I wanted to hitch to a party tonight but it looks like its going to rain
18:41 <Vanhayes> #g 63 F in C
18:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: 63 degrees Fahrenheit = 17.2222222 degrees Celsius
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18:41 <spidey> Vanhayes, when you go to play warrock, end all the processes but csrss.exe , explorer.exe , services.exe  all of the svchost.exe the 2 system proceses and winlogin.exe
18:41 <spidey> i bet it runs perfect then :)
18:42 <spidey> oh and smss.exe o.o
18:42 <Vanhayes> ok ill try that now
18:42 <spidey> k
18:42 <spidey> i'ma go get cigarettes, brb
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18:42 <Vanhayes> if I dont say anything in about 2-3 minutes it means something went wrong
18:42 <ghableska> lol
18:45 <Vanhayes> well down to 24 now
18:47 <spidey> lol
18:47 <spidey> those processes i named
18:47 <spidey> are the only ones windows NEEDS
18:47 <spidey> the rest are for other things
18:47 <Vanhayes> well that sort of worked
18:47 <Vanhayes> have 20 now
18:47 <spidey> :)
18:47 <spidey> that should be fine
18:47 <spidey> you'll notice a big difference
18:47 <madmax|pt> you ended the firewall and AV processes too?
18:47 <Vanhayes> well 19 not including task manager
18:47 <Vanhayes> nah i keot those
18:47 <spidey> madmax|pt, he's got a router
18:47 <madmax|pt> oh
18:47 <Vanhayes> kept*
18:48 <spidey> those should be fine
18:48 <spidey> i run avast while i plau
18:48 <spidey> play
18:48 <Vanhayes> well I had to keep them actuallly
18:48 <spidey> :p
18:49 <spidey> goto the normal server, vehicle
18:49 <Vanhayes> well it went from the max mem usage of around 10000 and only one of them to 4 10000+ and 2 20000+
18:49 <spidey> ?
18:50 <spidey> whatever you do
18:50 <spidey> don't end svchost.exe
18:50 <spidey> or you'll have to reboot :p
18:50 <Vanhayes> i know
18:50 <Vanhayes> and endeing explorer.exe isnt that good either
18:50 <spidey> the others you can't end with taskmanager
18:50 <spidey> ya that one to
18:50 <spidey> though
18:50 <spidey> if you do
18:50 <spidey> ctrl+alt+del
18:51 <spidey> click the file tab then in the run box type explorer.exe
18:51 <spidey> and it'll come back :p
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18:51 <Vanhayes> chances are this wont make to much difference but ill give it a try
18:52 <spidey> it will :)
18:52 <spidey> normal server, vehicle
18:52 <spidey> :D
18:52 <Vanhayes> ok
18:52 <Vanhayes> see how long it takes to start now
18:52 <spidey> shit
18:52 <ghableska> O_O
18:52 <spidey> thunderstorm warning!
18:52  * ghableska has 44 processes
18:53 <spidey> we just had one last night -_-
18:53  * spidey has 16 including warrock/xchat :p
18:53 <ghableska> O_O
18:53 <spidey> i tweaked my install, so it runs great :)
18:53 <spidey> it start yet hayes?
18:53 <Vanhayes> ya it wont start now
18:53  * Vanhayes wont listen to spidey again
18:53 <spidey> ?
18:54 <Vanhayes> wont launch
18:54 <spidey> ...
18:54 <spidey> what's it say?
18:54 <madmax|pt> lol
18:54 <Vanhayes> doesnt say anything it just wont start up
18:54 <spidey> you sure you didn't end a svchost?
18:54 <ghableska> lol
18:54 <Vanhayes> yes
18:54 <spidey> o.o
18:55 <ghableska> spidey: wd :P
18:55 <spidey> windows xp right?
18:55 <Vanhayes> yup
18:55 <spidey> btw, did you click end process, or end process tree
18:56 <Vanhayes> process
18:56  * spidey stabs ghableska :p
18:56 <spidey> wtf
18:56 <spidey> try to open something else
18:56 <Vanhayes> tried opera and it froze
18:56 <ghableska> ouch
18:56 <madmax|pt> i think windows pwned spidey 
18:56 <ghableska> haha
18:56 <spidey> nah
18:57 <madmax|pt> :P
18:57 <spidey> take a screenshot and upload it
18:57 <Vanhayes> and now neither the warraock or opera process will close
18:57 <spidey> oh, i forgot, do you have a service pack?
18:58 <Vanhayes> no clue
18:58 <Vanhayes> this isnt just my comp btw
18:58 <ghableska> lol
18:58 <spidey> right click my computer goto properties
18:58 <Vanhayes> a few people use it so i dont know what everything is on here
18:59 <spidey> Vanhayes, nothing a reboot won't fix ;p
18:59 <Vanhayes> service pack 2 it says
18:59 <spidey> :/
19:00 <Fonkay> nice to talk to everyone
19:00 <spidey> reboot, take a screenshot of the proxesses
19:00 <Fonkay> take care
19:00  * spidey pokes Fonkay :D
19:00 <Fonkay> ow!
19:00 <spidey> :)
19:00 <Fonkay> I'm heading out though, things to do people to see.
19:00 <Fonkay> later kids
19:01  * spidey resents that :D
19:01 <Fonkay> resembles*
19:01 <spidey> lies
19:01 <Fonkay> muah
19:01 <Fonkay> haha
19:01 <Vanhayes> hello and goodbye fonkay
19:01 <Fonkay> ok, ttyl, and maybe play some
19:01 <ghableska> cya
19:01 <Fonkay> same to you.
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19:02 <spidey> Vanhayes, you'll have to reboot ;/
19:02 <Vanhayes> hmmm I think ill try to close every process and see what happens
19:02 <Vanhayes> then ill reboot
19:03 <spidey> k
19:03 <Vanhayes> ya I made it shut down itself
19:04 <Vanhayes> hmm cya right about...
19:04 <Vanhayes> now
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19:04 <spidey> shutdown -a ;/
19:05 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
19:05 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 63.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Sunny. Humidity: 62%. Wind: WSW at 10 mph (16 km/h).
19:05 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:05 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 64.4°F (11:54 AM CDT on September 23, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.60 in 1002 hPa. 
19:05 <ghableska> :-/
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19:10 <spidey> wb
19:10 <Vanhayes> ty
19:13 <spidey> take a screenshot of the processes and upload them to imageshack.us
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19:14 <spidey> Self_Destructo, hi
19:14 <Self_Destructo> hey there
19:15  * ghableska yawns
19:17  * spidey drop kicks ghableska 
19:17 <ghableska> again!?
19:17 <ghableska> spidey is a bully
19:18  * ghableska slaps spidey
19:19 <spidey> :d\
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19:24 <Vanhayes> spidey:      http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2527/untitledfs4.jpg and    http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1928/sysproccgj2.jpg
19:24 <ghableska> one less than me :P
19:25 <Vanhayes> heh
19:25 <Vanhayes> I think im down to about 39-40 without anything running
19:26 <ghableska> lol
19:29 <spidey> mcafee?
19:31 <Vanhayes> ya
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19:33 <spidey> tornadoe season :/
19:36 <spidey> ok
19:36 <spidey> close these
19:36 <spidey> alg.exe
19:36 <spidey> spoolsv.exe
19:36 <spidey> qttask.exe
19:36 <spidey> hkcmd.exe jusched.exe
19:37 <spidey> the rest i don't know what they are o.o
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19:53 <Vanhayes> woops
19:53 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (14 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (8 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (2 players) || U.S.DogFight (2 players) || Strawberry Fields (2 players) || RepNET (1 more message)
20:05 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
20:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 7 seconds old; *riteou*, ->tWc:MoToRhEaD, -L-Player one, .·KøÏ·-$µbzêqõ, /-\|)/-\/\/\, HIM, =[777]=.EXE, adamad, ainT goT no waT, AJ, Atmosphere, Billy Madison, Chris, cow, ERIC, ERIC, EsreveR, FroZen, inf3rno, Johneyy!, JoJo, josephtrujillo, Kaneda, Killer_of_Kitty, kovrt, Kylian#(NL), Lime, lulu, lulu, Luzifer, Mach V [GB], Mareike, Noobie, Omoi, PHIL, Player 1, Pluto, Pro, quartzlcc, (1 more message)
20:05 <Vanhayes> #more
20:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Rajinn256, Rajinn256, Razvan, Serpent, Spon Deluxe, SuLtan Hengzt, TaTToo, Test987, Tommy&Annika, turtle man, WPN|w|«¡hri$«ª , Xyster, Yoda, [CU] Devil Dogg, [CU] Lony, [NC]Harlequin, [nrx], [xy]bladedancer, |AST| legendary, |D|B|F|-Diego, |||, ~*SP*~Rai Rever, ~{GP}~Majorna, ©®#P, °Oredator°, °¯n00b
20:05 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes 
20:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes has last been seen on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress 1 minutes ago.
20:06 <Vanhayes> hmm
20:06 <Vanhayes> weird
20:09 <spidey> great
20:09 <spidey> i was jsut about to goto level 3
20:09 <spidey> connection terminated!
20:10 <spidey> i had 6 kills and was enough to give me 2% :<
20:11 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: what's weird?
20:12 <Compn> haha cool tourney is busy again! yay
20:12 <Vanhayes> i was on there still but it didnt show me
20:12 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes 
20:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes seems to be on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress right now.
20:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe there was a network error while updating the list
20:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe z-man's fortress didn't respond once
20:13 <Vanhayes> ya it didnt show anyone who was on there, so thats probly it
20:13 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
20:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 75 seconds old; *riteou*, -*Sp*-QUARG, -L-Player one, -|ct|- play, .TiP|PaDDy, .·KøÏ·-$µbzêqõ, /-\|)/-\/\/\, adamad, AJ, Angel, Aura, Caboose, Chris, Colder, cow, DOOD, ERIC, ERIC, FroZen, ghableska, Golden315, ibeg, inf3rno, Johneyy!, JoJo, Junkee, Kaneda, KnightsOfHerne, kovrt, Lime, lulu, lulu, Luzifer, Mach V [GB], Malcolm, Mareike, matt, MaZuffeR, Miro, Noobie, Omoi, PHIL, player (2 more messages)
20:13 <Vanhayes> #more
20:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: "2", Player 1, Pluto, PrInCeSsPurple, Pro, quartzlcc, Rajinn256, Rajinn256, Razvan, Serpent, SL(belenus), SL(Sasha), Smoking Frog, Spirit, Spirit, Spon Deluxe, Test987, Tommy&Annika, trigger, try me, Vanhayes, Vegeta, Wallrider', [CU] Devil Dogg, [CU] Lony, [nrx], [xy]bladedancer, ]i[ 2020, {WPN}·Légît, |AST| legendary, |D|B|F|-Diego, ~*SP*~T°¯L, ~Misha~, ~{GP}~Majorna, ~}SD{~ Rariki, ©­$P, (1 more message)
20:13 <Vanhayes> #more
20:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: °Predator°   Xyst, °¯n00b
20:13 <Vanhayes> there we go
20:13 <wrtlprnft> :)(
20:13 <wrtlprnft> *:)
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20:33  * spidey drops kicks ghableska  again
20:34  * ghableska shoots spidey 
20:34 <ghableska> headshot :P
20:34  * spidey comes back as a ghost and pwns ghableska 
20:34 <ghableska> ghosts suck
20:34 <spidey> only cause humans can't see them or kill them
20:35 <spidey> but if you're a ghost you own
20:35 <ghableska> but ghosts can't do anything
20:35 <Vanhayes> ya, im surprised spiey didnt come back as a zombie
20:35 <ghableska> they just float and say "boo"
20:35 <spidey> Vanhayes, headshot
20:35 <spidey> i couldn't :p
20:35 <spidey> ghableska, they can too
20:35 <spidey> you never watched ghost hunters? :p
20:35 <ghableska> give me an example :P
20:35 <ghableska> no
20:35 <spidey> make a room cold? :D
20:36 <spidey> i could freeze you outta your own home
20:36 <spidey> = pwned
20:36 <Vanhayes> o no, he might have to go put on a sweater
20:36 <ghableska> haha
20:36 <Vanhayes> or turn the heat up
20:36 <ghableska> lol
20:36 <ghableska> or call the ghostbusters
20:36 <spidey> never
20:36 <spidey> ghostbusters suck
20:37 <ghableska> haha
20:39 <Vanhayes> well they did kell that big marshmellow thing so...
20:39 <ghableska> ?
20:39 <Vanhayes> kill*
20:39 <spidey> he wasn't a ghost
20:39 <spidey> ghosts are invisible
20:39 <Vanhayes> prove it
20:39 <spidey> you've never seen one have you?
20:40  * ghableska doesn't believe in ghosts :P
20:40 <Vanhayes> i did seee that big marshmellow thing
20:40 <ghableska> spidey: so therefore you don't exist
20:40  * spidey doesn't believe in ghableska's
20:40  * ghableska slaps spidey
20:40  * spidey drop kicks ghableska into oblivion
20:40  * Vanhayes thinks you are all programs on his computer
20:41 <ghableska> spidey: I don't exist
20:41 <ghableska> you can't kick me :P
20:41 <spidey> ok
20:41 <spidey> well
20:41 <spidey> you can't slap me
20:41 <spidey> :D
20:41 <ghableska> true
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21:01 <spidey> how retarded is this
21:01 <spidey> my brother, who's gonna be in kiddy prison for 6 months, has already been there 3-4 
21:02 <spidey> he hasn't had a single cigarette, he said when he gets out the first thing he's gonna do is smoke one
21:02 <spidey> if i went 6 months without one, no way in hell i'd start again
21:05 <ghableska> O_O
21:07 <Vanhayes> heh kiddy prison
21:08 <Vanhayes> you mean juevie?
21:11 <madmax|pt> van?
21:11 <madmax|pt> u there?
21:12 <madmax|pt> lol
21:12 <wrtlprnft> well, it would be the one good thing he'd gain from his stay there…
21:13 <Vanhayes> i am her enoe
21:13 <Vanhayes> now*
21:13 <Vanhayes> hmm who are you madmax|pt ?
21:14 <Vanhayes> your in z-mans tourney right?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen madmax
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: madmax has last been seen on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress 2 hours 38 minutes ago.
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen Vanhayes 
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Vanhayes seems to be on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress right now.
21:15 <Vanhayes> #lastseen niteowl
21:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: NiteOwl seems to be on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress right now.
21:30 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: why was your ping so high?
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21:43 <Commn> kamakazi's team wins!
21:43 <madmax|pt> :D
21:43 <madmax|pt> NiteOwl rocks
21:43 <madmax|pt> lol
21:43 <ghableska> :P
21:43  * ghableska sucks
21:47 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: i'm hosting a clone of ct wild ctf
21:47 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: and it had 6 players on it
21:47 <Vanhayes> ah, is it still up?
21:48 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:49 <wrtlprnft> but empty
21:50 <Vanhayes> heh no it isnt
21:50 <wrtlprnft> oh
21:50 <wrtlprnft> but it has a pretty bad lag :(
21:51 <ghableska> :'(
21:51 <Vanhayes> ya my ping is 277 there
21:53 <wrtlprnft> well
21:53 <wrtlprnft> someone give me a dedicated server with a 100Mbit connection and we'll see
21:55 <madmax|pt> ack -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKNDtXshpJs
21:55 <ghableska> madmax|pt: O_O
21:55 <ghableska> it looks like he's having a seizure
21:56 <madmax|pt> that guy is good...
21:56 <ghableska> oh
21:56 <ghableska> does it make a difference if you're watching with sound off?
21:56 <madmax|pt> LOL
21:56 <madmax|pt> pretty much :P
21:56 <ghableska> oh, haha
21:57 <wrtlprnft> wtf
21:57 <wrtlprnft> youtube changed their player
21:57 <wrtlprnft> i can'd download the movies anymore :(
21:58 <ghableska> :(
21:59 <MaZuffeR> this guy is better imho: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=707670100235660283&q=beat+box
22:00 <MaZuffeR> best part starts around 4:30
22:01 <madmax|pt> ooh pretty good
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> http://armagetronad.davefancella.com/doxygen/  <--- wrtlprnft
22:08 <wrtlprnft> can't connect to it.…
22:09 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'm still not exactly a fan of the idea to move the wiki
22:09 <wrtlprnft> people are used to the mediawiki interface
22:09 <wrtlprnft> now it
22:09 <wrtlprnft> 's loading
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> I hate inertia
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> give me a reason not to move that doesn't involve inertia
22:10 <wrtlprnft> uh, and the current way it's integrated is a mess
22:11 <wrtlprnft> it's all just pasted into the template, including doctype and co
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's just a quick hack to see what it looks like.  You're supposed to spend some time customizing the doxygen output
22:12 <wrtlprnft> anyways, unix philosophy is to do one thing, and to do it well
22:13 <ghableska> madmax|pt: finally watched it with sound O_o
22:13 <wrtlprnft> having everything integrated into one big thing that can fail/have security holes/be discuntinued/whatever is kinda dangerous
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> the only rule that's always true is that there are no rules that are always true
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, after spending more time with it, I'm not entirely sure the entire wiki should be moved into it
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> trac has a developer-centric interface, and mediawiki has a user/reader-centric interface, and the difference is irreconciliable
22:14 <wrtlprnft> i don't mind moving the development docs to trac
22:14  * Lucifer_arma wonders if trac speeds up if he puts it in a postgresql server
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'm leaning towards just moving development docs to trac
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> the only "problem" there is migrating the pages to mediawiki when the stable release is made
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> we could do what z-man suggested way back when and just ignore the wiki, or just use the wiki to document the tracker
22:16 <wrtlprnft> you could make a mediawiki template that looks like trac
22:16 <wrtlprnft> though that would be quite a bit of work
22:16 <wrtlprnft> or a trac template to look like mediawiki
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> I think the differences there are pretty much irreconcilable.  We could get close with templates on both of them, but not exact
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> the way they each construct navigation is fundamentally different.  :/
22:17 <wrtlprnft> i meant the basics, one-couloumn layout, the navbar at the top, and things like that
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> we could probably restrict ourselves to the lowest common denominator, but I don't think that would be terribly useful
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> it should be fairly straightforward to write up a script that sync mediawiki pages with trac, or rather the other way.  Trac pages to mediawiki.
22:18 <wrtlprnft> i'd just keep it all seperate, really
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> and lock those pages on mediawiki, but I don't think that would be as useful as much as it is work.
22:19 <wrtlprnft> because then someone edits the mediawiki page not knowing that trac exists, and someone would have to merge it back
22:19 <wrtlprnft> if you're locking them you might as well just link to the trac page
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> an advantage to separating development docs from trac is that we can draw a firm line between stable docs and development docs, i.e. mediawiki only documents stable releases
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> in that vein it would be nice if mediawiki had a doxygen viewer too, although I could setup the api docs on trac to show stable docs too.
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> what would probably be pretty useful is to have a script to sync the mediawiki user database with trac's, or an auth module for trac that uses the wiki
22:21 <wrtlprnft> that would make sense
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> and then another module that gives a beta browser would be nice too, even if all it did was include the one we already have
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22:23 <wrtlprnft> that would be easy to write
22:23 <wrtlprnft> just have it use my xml feed :P
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> the plugin api for trac is pretty straightforward :)
22:25  * Lucifer_arma had to hack the webadmin plugin to fix a bug in how it showed the button in the navbar
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, something else
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> did you put your xml script for your master server in svn?  I was thinking I might put it on my master server and you can have armaspyadvanced use it too
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> you know, keeping in line with the distributed master server setup and all :)
22:28 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a mess, but sure you could have it
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> wasn't planning on hacking it, just sticking it in a vhost
22:28 <wrtlprnft> though that would put even more load on the servers
22:28 <wrtlprnft> currently they're pinged once a minute
22:29 <wrtlprnft> if we have them pinged every 15 seconds that might be a bit much…
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think I'm going to worry about it, but you might.  I figure the servers don't get much traffic that doesn't first ping the master server anyway...
22:30 <luke-jr_work> maybe we should allow servers to send full info when registering
22:30 <luke-jr_work> and just deltas when something changes
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think his script probably pings for players
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you're putting the info in a mysql database?
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm, that's a bad idea I had, defeats the purpose entirely
22:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i am
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> I kinda think it's fair to expect servers to take the load, it's not like we're pinging them with thousands of master servers
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> and we provide them a service, so it's kinda like a reasonable expectation
22:33 <wrtlprnft> so, put it into svn or not?
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> up to you, it'll probably be a week or more before I actually install it.  If you don't put it into svn, I'd appreciate an email with it in it, but if you don't want to do any of that, no problem either
22:34 <wrtlprnft> i'll put it into svn
22:34 <wrtlprnft> need to wrap it up a bit first...
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22:47 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
22:47 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6194 /private/wrtlprnft/serverlist/ (11 files): Added my online server browser thingy, very hacky.
22:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Periods of rain ending this evening then cloudy. Amount 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches. Wind southwest 20 km/h becoming south 30 gusting to 50 early this evening then becoming light overnight. Low 12.; Sunday - Cloudy. Periods of (2 more messages)
22:48 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: happy?
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> thanks :)
22:48 <wrtlprnft> hope it works
22:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #weather zürich
22:48 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: The current temperature in Glattbrugg, GLATTBRUGG, Switzerland is 62.4°F (9:59 PM CEST on September 23, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa. 
22:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 62.4°F in °C
22:48 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> -.-
22:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 62.4 F in C
22:48 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 62.4 degrees Fahrenheit = 16.8888889 degrees Celsius
22:49 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
22:49 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 62.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Wind: WSW at 12 mph (19 km/h).
22:50 <ghableska> :D
22:50 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: google doesn't know degree signs as they aren't on an american keyboard and hence not worth supportinh
22:50 <wrtlprnft> *supporting
22:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hrrm
22:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> k
22:50 <wrtlprnft> that's what they probably think
22:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 62.4 F in K
22:51 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 62.4 degrees Fahrenheit = 290.038889 kelvin
22:51 <wrtlprnft> i think degree signs are nice and useful °.°
22:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 0 C in K
22:51 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 0 degrees Celsius = 273.15 kelvin
22:51 <wrtlprnft> #g -5 K in C
22:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (-5) kelvin = -278.15 degrees Celsius
22:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g -380 C in K
22:51 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:51 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (-380) degrees Celsius = -106.85 kelvin
22:51 <ghableska> brr
22:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 0o
22:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> that doesnt work
22:51 <wrtlprnft> i know
22:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> there is no temperature below 0 kelvin damnit -.-
22:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> google sucks
22:52 <DrJoeTron> there aught to be
22:52 <ghableska> #g -380 C in F
22:52 <wrtlprnft> nope
22:52 <armabot> ghableska: (-380) degrees Celsius = -652 degrees Fahrenheit
22:52 <DrJoeTron> its when molecules go in reverse :D
22:52 <wrtlprnft> that would be positive again
22:53 <wrtlprnft> it's the absolute :P
22:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it is when protones become negative and electrons positive
22:53 <DrJoeTron> you're absolutely no fun wrtlprnft 
22:53 <DrJoeTron> seriously
22:53 <wrtlprnft> :P
22:53 <ghableska> lol
22:53 <DrJoeTron> you're why there is no santa clause
22:54 <wrtlprnft> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 10 watts
22:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (((8.85 * (10^(-12)) * (((ampere * seconds) / volts) / meters) * (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)) / (1 mm)) * ((220 volts)^2)) / (10 watts) = 693.883329 years
22:54 <wrtlprnft> now who can tell me what i just calculated?
22:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> just gimme some time
22:54 <DrJoeTron> alls i know is
22:54 <DrJoeTron> im eating homemade chex mix
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it has todo with the volume of the earth 0o
22:55 <wrtlprnft> nope
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i mean
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> the volume of the earth is in there
22:55 <wrtlprnft> nope
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)
22:55 <wrtlprnft> #g (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2))
22:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2) = 5.11201962 * 10^(14) m^(2)
22:55 <wrtlprnft> that's its surface area
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ah
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ><
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> damn
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i'm already a bit tired
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22:56 <wrtlprnft> well, what can you gess from the fact that it has amperes and volts in it?
22:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it's got to do with electricity
22:56 <wrtlprnft> bingo!
22:57 <wrtlprnft> and the first number should ring a bell too
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22:57 <ghableska> stupid Trillian
22:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i will be able to tell you in half a year
22:58 <wrtlprnft> haha
22:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> as we didn't do the electricity stuff in physics yet
22:59 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: what was the equation?
22:59 <wrtlprnft> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 10 watts
22:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (((8.85 * (10^(-12)) * (((ampere * seconds) / volts) / meters) * (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)) / (1 mm)) * ((220 volts)^2)) / (10 watts) = 693.883329 years
22:59 <ghableska> what's it for?
22:59 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permittivity#Vacuum_permittivity
23:00 <ghableska> O_O
23:00 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: that's what i'm waiting for someone to find out
23:00 <ghableska> haha
23:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wrtlprnft: so you dont know either?
23:00 <wrtlprnft> i do
23:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> as you divide the area of the earth by 1mm
23:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it is no longer an area
23:02 <wrtlprnft> it's how long you will be able to run an electric appliance with a power of 10 watts with a capacitor consisting of two plates covering all of earth with a distance of 1mm that was previously fully charged with a current of 220V
23:04 <wrtlprnft> with vacuum between the plates, i should add
23:04 <wrtlprnft> or air, which would give a value that would be very slightly bigger
23:05 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 400 watts
23:05 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (((8.85 * (10^(-12)) * (((ampere * seconds) / volts) / meters) * (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)) / (1 mm)) * ((220 volts)^2)) / (400 watts) = 17.3470832 years
23:05 <[Xpert]DarkStar> so i could run my computer for at least 17 years with that
23:05 <wrtlprnft> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 10 watts * 1,00059
23:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:05 <wrtlprnft> !
23:05 <wrtlprnft> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 10 watts * 1.00059
23:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((((8.85 * (10^(-12)) * (((ampere * seconds) / volts) / meters) * (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)) / (1 mm)) * ((220 volts)^2)) / (10 watts)) * 1.00059 = 694.29272 years
23:06 <wrtlprnft> there you go, this would be the same with air in between
23:06 <[Xpert]DarkStar> how would it be with water?
23:06 <wrtlprnft> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 10 watts * 80.1
23:06 <wrtlprnft> that's distilled water, though
23:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((((8.85 * (10^(-12)) * (((ampere * seconds) / volts) / meters) * (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)) / (1 mm)) * ((220 volts)^2)) / (10 watts)) * 80.1 = 55,580.0547 years
23:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wow... a lot more
23:07 <wrtlprnft> 80.1 times as long
23:07 <wrtlprnft> water is a dipole :P
23:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g (8.85*10^(-12)(ampere * seconds / volts / metres) * 4pi*(radius of earth)^2 / (1mm)) * (220 volts)^2 / 400 watts * 80.1
23:07 <wrtlprnft> you'd need distilled water, though
23:07 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: ((((8.85 * (10^(-12)) * (((ampere * seconds) / volts) / meters) * (4 * pi) * (radius of Earth^2)) / (1 mm)) * ((220 volts)^2)) / (400 watts)) * 80.1 = 1,389.50137 years
23:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> that is most likely longer than i'm gonna live
23:08 <wrtlprnft> heh
23:08 <wrtlprnft> wow, ice would be even more
23:09 <wrtlprnft> and Barium titanate would be a LOT more
23:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hrhrhrhr
23:09 <wrtlprnft> 10^3 to 10^4 times as much as vacuum
23:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> that is likely to be a long time ><
23:13 <wrtlprnft> you could also decrease the distance to get more out of it
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23:13 <wrtlprnft> or increase the current
23:13 <wrtlprnft> anyways
23:13 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:13 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:13 <ghableska> cya
23:13 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes_
23:13 <Vanhayes_> #morehello
23:13 <Vanhayes_> woops
23:13 <Vanhayes_> hello*
23:13 <ghableska> O_O
23:14 <ghableska> #google Vanhayes
23:14 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.08 seconds: User: Vanhayes - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/User:Vanhayes>; Anarchic wanderers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Anarchic_wanderers>; Resource Preview: <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Vanhayes/>; Resource Preview: <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource- (2 more messages)
23:14 <ghableska> #more
23:14 <armabot> ghableska: browser/resource/Vanhayes/cockpit/vanoriginal-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml>; #armagetron @ freenode stats by Guru3: <http://tigersnetwork.sytes.net/ircstats/armagetron.html>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - international tron tournament: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=5701&start=30&sid=3c71e3cf442e0f2ff231457c222acfda>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - 1v1 Sumo Tournament Brackets: (1 more message)
23:14 <ghableska> #more
23:14 <armabot> ghableska: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=4431&>; drumandbass.at - Members List: <http://v3.drumandbass.at/board/memberlist.php?s=622047b72e0494dd828192638a7b4069&ltr=V>; Petfinder.com forums :: View Forum - Happy Tails [ ]: <http://forums.petfinder.com/viewforum.php?f=3&topicdays=0&start=500&>; wotmania: feed your wheel of time addiction: <http://www.wotmania.com/directory.asp?Letter=V>
23:15 <ghableska> #google ghableska
23:15 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.09 seconds: Orbiter Forums: <http://orbit.m6.net/Forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=842>; Orbiter Space Flight Simulator - Web Forums By Martin Schweiger ...: <http://orbit.m6.net/v2/read.asp?id=29110>; Anarchic wanderers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Anarchic_wanderers>; Ladle-4/Team List - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: (2 more messages)
23:15 <ghableska> #more
23:15 <armabot> ghableska: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Ladle-4/Team_List>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - BUG cries on Bugfarm Fortress ...: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3081&>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - 0.3.0_alpha4941: Bugs: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=4861&start=15&sid=aaa3372262a212d06701f4bf1fb3b6eb>; #armagetron @ freenode stats by Guru3: (1 more message)
23:15 <ghableska> #more
23:15 <armabot> ghableska: <http://tigersnetwork.sytes.net/ircstats/armagetron.html>; SIMCOSMOS - News (current year old news): <http://simcosmos.planetaclix.pt/00_SIMCOSMOScfg/news/news_past.htm>; AST :: View topic - bugfarm: <http://www.cyd.liu.se/~andte696/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=310>; X-Plane.Org Forum > Msfs Shots: <http://forums.x-plane.org/lofiversion/index.php?t18265.html>
23:15 <ghableska> hmm
23:18 <Vanhayes_> #google fight Vanhayes ghableska 
23:18 <armabot> Vanhayes_: ghableska: 41, Vanhayes: 39
23:18 <Vanhayes_> wo
23:18 <Vanhayes_> #google fight Vanhayes ghableska 
23:19 <armabot> Vanhayes_: ghableska: 41, Vanhayes: 39
23:19 <Vanhayes_> that shouldnt be that low ...
23:19 <spidey> jesus
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight Jesus Ghableska
23:19 <spidey> this has to be the wrose warrock game i've played
23:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Jesus: 15200000, Ghableska: 41
23:19 <Vanhayes_> #google fight me you
23:19 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
23:19 <Vanhayes_> #google fight me you
23:19 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
23:20 <Vanhayes_> stupid google
23:20 <Vanhayes_> o ya, anyone try wild west cockpit yet?
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "You can't do that" "dumbass"
23:20 <wrtlprnft> the numbers are too high
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: dumbass: 5470000, You can't do that: 134000
23:20 <Vanhayes_> #google fight me you
23:20 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
23:20 <Vanhayes_> argh
23:21 <Vanhayes_> #google fight Vanhayes ghableska 
23:21 <armabot> Vanhayes_: ghableska: 41, Vanhayes: 39
23:21 <Vanhayes_> hmm thats how many processes I have going too
23:22 <wrtlprnft> #google fight mkzelda luke-jr_work Niii [dlh] j0h4nn3s armabot wrtlprnft MaZuffeR Lucifer_arma Vanhayes Luke-Jr madmax|pt Legit [Xpert]DarkStar spidey Plazma Vanhayes_ guru3 Commn [NP]Tangent ghableska deja_vu_ DrJoeTron
23:22 <wrtlprnft> people are gonna kill me
23:22 <mkzelda> haha
23:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [NP]: 157000000, madmax|pt: 38700000, [dlh]: 3240000, Tangent: 959000, Legit: 641000, DarkStar: 624000, Plazma: 399000, [Xpert]: 262000, spidey: 221000, Niii: 32500, Commn: 18700, Luke-Jr: 6150, guru3: 720, wrtlprnft: 664, deja_vu_: 133, MaZuffeR: 56, ghableska: 41, Vanhayes: 39, mkzelda: 31, armabot: 30, Lucifer_arma: 28, DrJoeTron: 22, j0h4nn3s: 14, luke- (1 more message)
23:22 <mkzelda> google fight me
23:22  * deja_vu_ kills wrtlprnft 
23:23 <wrtlprnft> #google fight mkzelda "luke-jr_work" "Niii" "[dlh]" "j0h4nn3s" "armabot" "wrtlprnft" "MaZuffeR" "Lucifer_arma" "Vanhayes" "Luke-Jr" "madmax|pt" "Legit" "[Xpert]DarkStar" "spidey" "Plazma" "Vanhayes_" "guru3" "Commn" "[NP]Tangent" "ghableska" "deja_vu_" "DrJoeTron"
23:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: madmax|pt: 38700000, [dlh]: 3240000, Legit: 641000, Plazma: 399000, spidey: 221000, [NP]Tangent: 52400, Niii: 32500, Commn: 18700, Luke-Jr: 6150, guru3: 720, wrtlprnft: 664, [Xpert]DarkStar: 240, deja_vu_: 133, MaZuffeR: 56, ghableska: 41, Vanhayes: 39, mkzelda: 31, armabot: 30, Lucifer_arma: 28, DrJoeTron: 22, j0h4nn3s: 14, luke-jr_work: 0, Vanhayes_: 0
23:23 <wrtlprnft> haha, Vanhayes_ loses
23:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> in fact he wins
23:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but yeah
23:24 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> have I seen deja_vu before?
23:24 <deja_vu> #google fight wrtlprnft deja_vu 
23:24 <deja_vu> ;)
23:24 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu: 8140, wrtlprnft: 664
23:24 <deja_vu> \o/
23:24 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt is cheating
23:24 -!- Vanhayes__ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034186234.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight deja_vu Lucifer
23:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer: 10200000, deja_vu: 8140
23:24 <wrtlprnft> it's looking for pages containing madmax or pt
23:25 <deja_vu> :(
23:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> replace the | dumbass
23:25 <wrtlprnft> night now, finally
23:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> yeah well whatever
23:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> good [night] everyone
23:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> aww that dun work like that ><
23:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
23:26 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
23:26 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: Jesus? O_o
23:26 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034190071.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:27 <spidey> #google fight me Lucifer_arma 
23:27 <armabot> spidey: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
23:27 <ghableska> lol
23:27 <spidey> #google fight Spidey Lucifer_arma 
23:28 <armabot> spidey: Spidey: 221000, Lucifer_arma: 28
23:28 <ghableska> :P
23:28 <spidey> pwn
23:28 <ghableska> #google fight ghableska Lucifer_arma
23:28 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska: 41, Lucifer_arma: 28
23:28 <ghableska> heh
23:28 <spidey> lmao
23:29 <mkzelda> my 31 are me
23:30 <ghableska> ditto
23:30 <mkzelda> pretty much every forum ive ever posted on
23:30 <ghableska> spidey isn't creative at all :P
23:30 <mkzelda> and my site
23:34 <madmax|pt> o_O
23:36 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-200-227.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
23:40 -!- Your_mom_arm1 [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-200-227.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
23:41 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034185077.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:42 <DrJoeTron> heya
23:42 <Your_mom_arm1> hey
23:42 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034170140.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
23:44 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arm1 rtb?
23:44 <Your_mom_arm1> okay
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> if he's gonna do himself as spidey, he has to do me as lucifer
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight Spidey Lucifer
23:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer: 10200000, Spidey: 221000
23:47 <DrJoeTron> Server is up
23:47 <spidey> ?
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> man, kids used to say "surf's up"
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> now they say server's up
23:48 <spidey> i did myself lol
23:48 <DrJoeTron> haha
23:48 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-200-227.pskn.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
23:49 <spidey> #google fight God Lucifer
23:49 <armabot> spidey: God: 562000000, Lucifer: 10200000
23:49 <spidey> owned
23:49 -!- SD_away [i=Self_Des@h172.253.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
23:50 <spidey> Vanhayes, i'm level 4 now :)
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "God Sucks" "Lucifer Sucks"
23:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: God Sucks: 1460000, Lucifer Sucks: 19800
23:50 -!- SD_away is now known as Self_Destructo
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> pwned
23:50 <Self_Destructo> ahem
23:50 <spidey> lol
23:50 <spidey> Self_Destructo, hi
23:50 <Self_Destructo> hi
23:50  * Lucifer_arma hopes there aren't any fundies here to see that
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> oh, hi Self_Destructo 
23:50 <Self_Destructo> har har
23:50 <Self_Destructo> hi luci
23:50  * spidey points to Luke-Jr 
23:50 <Luke-Jr> WTF DOES WHO WANT?!?!?! =p
23:51 <spidey> omg i woke it up
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> lower blood/lead levels?
23:51 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: should we torture Lucifer_arma ?
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> I see you're a good American, Luke-Jr 
23:52 <spidey> or should Lucifer_arma Self_Destructo and me toture Luke-Jr 
23:52 <Self_Destructo> Luke-Jr: How?
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> you'd fit right into my genocidal government class
23:52 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: maybe "..." at him
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> "..." doesn't work after /ignore
23:53 <Luke-Jr> Self_Destructo: maybe brainwash his children to reboot his desktop box
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you don't have enough soap.  You're an unclean Christian.
23:53  * Lucifer_arma notes that historically you told Jews from Christians by the fact that Jews bathed
23:54  * Lucifer_arma goes to work on his text editor
23:54  * Lucifer_arma is tired of Kate
23:55  * Luke-Jr is happy with KWrite
23:55  * Luke-Jr notes KWrite/Kate are open source
23:56 <Self_Destructo> is this all you guys do anymore? Stupid talk at eachother
23:56 <Self_Destructo> ?
23:56 <spidey> it's fun when it involves everyone vs Luke-Jr 
23:56 <spidey> see watch
23:56 <Self_Destructo> Luke-Jr: Sorry I never got back to you on my program
23:57 <spidey> #google fight everyone Luke-Jr 
23:57 <armabot> spidey: everyone: 687000000, Luke-Jr: 6150
23:57 <spidey> #google fight "everyone else" Luke-Jr 
23:57 <armabot> spidey: everyone else: 10900000, Luke-Jr: 6150
23:57 <spidey> he obviously has it coming
23:57 <spidey> :p
23:57 <Self_Destructo> and what are the numbers representing?
23:57 <spidey> hitpoints?
23:58 <Self_Destructo> btw luke, no that regex doesn't work
23:58 <Self_Destructo> i thought maybe men in thier armies
23:58 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:59 -!- Vanhayes__ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034186234.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]

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