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Log from 2006-08-17: --- Day changed Thu Aug 17 2006 00:11 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-208-175.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 00:11 <luke-jr_> so anyway 00:11 <luke-jr_> are we gonna play? 00:13 <Your_mom_arma> freeciv? 00:16 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 00:16 <luke-jr_> ya 00:16 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508708AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:16 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron 00:17 <Your_mom_arma> im in 00:19 <Your_mom_arma> which server? 00:20 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: poke 00:20 <luke-jr_> spidey|sleep: GodTodd 00:20 <luke-jr_> hmm, a game I just saw end had Fundamentalism gov't 00:23 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: let's do a quick pubserver game while we wait 00:23 <luke-jr_> port 5565 00:29 <luke-jr_> [dlh]: [NP]Tangent [Xpert]DarkStar armabot Commn deja_vu GodTodd guru3 Lucifer_arma luke-jr_ Marco_ Niii spidey|sleep TiTnAsS Vanhayes wejp wrtlprnft Your_mom_arma 00:29 <deja_vu> O.o 00:29 <deja_vu> luke-jr_ 00:29 <luke-jr_> deja_vu: wanna play a quick game? 00:29 <Your_mom_arma> should i hit start? 00:29 <deja_vu> not right now 00:30 <luke-jr_> boo 00:30 * [NP]Tangent slaps luke-jr_ 00:30 <[NP]Tangent> I have drumline practice to go to 00:30 <luke-jr_> lame 00:30 <[NP]Tangent> but I'll play with you when I get home :> 00:30 <luke-jr_> ... 00:32 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: go ahead 00:32 <luke-jr_> play 00:32 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: Your_mom_arma Your_mom_arma 00:38 <Your_mom_arma> heh 00:39 <luke-jr_> ... 00:39 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: pay attention 00:39 <Your_mom_arma> server didnt show up on the list till now 01:05 <Your_mom_arma> what the hell, is that guy doing that? 01:07 <TiTnAsS> . 01:10 <luke-jr_> . 01:10 <luke-jr_> TiTnAsS: wanna play? 01:29 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Goals what would the world feature do? 01:30 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: see ph's doc 01:38 <Lucifer_arma> I want to have light cycles with gunpowder, railroad, and combustion. 01:43 <Lucifer_arma> so are you guys going to be ready to pick up last night's save game a bit later on? 01:45 <Vanhayes> ya probly 01:49 <Vanhayes> how much farther has that game gone since I quit? 01:54 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I was ready at 3 PM 02:06 <Vanhayes> yesll when you are going to satrt that game again 02:06 <Vanhayes> yell* 02:08 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: why not play w/ mom and I? 02:08 <Vanhayes> Usa had way too many cities 02:10 <luke-jr_> O.o 02:13 <luke-jr_> so abandon some =p 02:15 <Your_mom_arma> turn it into an anarchy and have luke take over washington chance of civil war is 80% 02:31 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron 02:31 <Vanhayes> meh im playing some tron right now ill finish that game from last night though if/when we play 02:31 <ghableska> hello 02:31 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 02:31 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes 02:31 <ghableska> picked a new nick yet? :P 02:31 <Vanhayes> heh yup 02:32 <ghableska> cool 02:32 <Vanhayes> new one each day 02:32 <ghableska> O_o 02:32 <ghableska> Why? 02:33 <Vanhayes> something to do, i use Vanhayes every once and a while 02:33 <ghableska> oh, lol 02:33 <ghableska> well if you want to remain secret, don't use your instant chats :P 02:36 <Vanhayes> ya, i sometimes hit one by accident 02:38 <ghableska> lol 02:52 <Your_mom_arma> client crashed 02:52 <Your_mom_arma> it wont let me rejoin 02:52 -!- spidey|sleep is now known as spidey 02:53 <spidey> rejoin? 02:53 <Your_mom_arma> freeciv crashed 02:53 <spidey> where ya'll at? "D 02:53 <Your_mom_arma> pg up? 02:54 <spidey> no? 02:54 <spidey> i'm connected to a bnc 02:54 <spidey> [14:55] * Disconnected 02:54 <spidey> [20:53] * Rejoined channel #armagetron 02:54 <spidey> [20:53] * Topic is '0.2.8.2.1 has been released! | http://armagetronad.net/ | Watch out for ~walls from the future~ !!!' 02:54 <spidey> [20:53] <Your_mom_arma> it wont let me rejoin 02:54 <luke-jr_> mom? 02:54 <spidey> my nme will always be here rather i am or not :p 02:54 <Your_mom_arma> 5565 02:54 <luke-jr_> keep trying 02:55 <Your_mom_arma> blarg 02:56 <luke-jr_> :\ 02:57 <Your_mom_arma> can spidey connect there? 02:57 * Your_mom_arma becomes frustrated 02:57 <Your_mom_arma> this always happens when i declare was 02:58 <Your_mom_arma> war even 02:58 <luke-jr_> yes 02:58 <luke-jr_> spidey is playing for you 02:58 <luke-jr_> until you get back 02:58 <Your_mom_arma> i'll try restarting the app again 03:00 -!- cortana [n=sam@82-32-57-57.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #armagetron 03:00 <spidey> mom 03:00 <spidey> use a passwor 03:00 <spidey> password 03:00 <spidey> :p 03:01 <Your_mom_arma> it wont prompt me for one 03:03 <luke-jr_> :| 03:04 <luke-jr_> use a diff name 03:04 <luke-jr_> =p 03:09 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-208-175.pskn.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:13 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-208-175.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 03:14 <spidey> damn mom 03:14 <Your_mom_arma> ? 03:14 <spidey> well,you're lucky the americans didn't decide to kill you earlier :p 03:14 <spidey> i captured 2 of there cities and got you a small army :p 03:15 <Vanhayes> ya US was stacked 03:15 <Your_mom_arma> i gave up most of my stuff to luke becaus i was bored 03:15 <spidey> hehe 03:15 <Your_mom_arma> is the server full? 03:15 <spidey> no? 03:15 <luke-jr_> use a diff name 03:15 <Your_mom_arma> 4 people are in there 03:15 <spidey> when you click connect do you see a box at the bottum? 03:15 <spidey> that says password 03:15 <Your_mom_arma> i tryed 03:16 <spidey> someone eles just connecteed 03:16 <spidey> O.o 03:16 <Your_mom_arma> yeah its grayed out, i can join other servers 03:16 <Your_mom_arma> kick the 4rth guy so i can at least spectate 03:21 <Your_mom_arma> i give up 03:21 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188152.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron 03:22 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes_ 03:24 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188152.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:25 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes_: hey 03:25 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes_: come play for me 03:25 <luke-jr_> I GTG 03:27 <luke-jr_> someone? 03:30 <Your_mom_arma> i cant connect still 03:30 <luke-jr_> :| 03:31 <Your_mom_arma> still says 4 players in that room 03:40 <luke-jr_> players, not users 03:41 <Your_mom_arma> restarting the app no help 03:41 <Your_mom_arma> different name no help 03:41 <Your_mom_arma> i blame the liberal media 03:42 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has left #Armagetron [] 03:56 <spidey> Your_mom_arma you're now a monarchy government 03:57 <spidey> and have 4+ army units per city and 7 cities :p 04:06 <Vanhayes_> Lucifer_arma: want to finish that game now? 04:07 <spidey> :D 04:07 <spidey> i do! 04:07 <Vanhayes_> were you still alive in that on spidey ? 04:08 <spidey> ya 04:08 <spidey> i was doing good 04:08 <spidey> then my AI fucked it up and broke off the alliance 04:08 <spidey> i'm playing mom's game now 04:08 <spidey> damned americans 04:08 <spidey> -_- 04:09 <spidey> luke should have gave me rocketry before he left 04:09 <spidey> Vanhayes_ connect to 5565 04:09 <spidey> play as luke 04:09 <spidey> :D 04:09 <Vanhayes_> maybe 04:09 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes 04:15 <Lucifer_arma> cooking dinner right now 04:16 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 04:18 -!- Commn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:41 <spidey> some guy came and took over the americans 04:42 <spidey> i've got a carrier full of bombers and fighters and a few choppers,and 3 transport ships full of armor units :D 04:43 <TiTnAsS> lies 04:44 <spidey> oh it's true :p 04:44 <Your_mom_arma> wow how did you turn that game around 04:47 <spidey> ;) 04:47 <spidey> i've got 2-3 units per city also 04:48 <spidey> i'ma go pwn the americans 04:48 <spidey> got 8 good cities 04:48 <spidey> haha 04:49 <spidey> the idiot attacked my carrier with a 2 cruisers and lost them 04:49 <spidey> :D 04:49 <spidey> someone should join and take lukes spot over 04:55 <spidey> i just took denver 04:58 <Your_mom_arma> type /list connections 05:01 <spidey> wrath 05:01 <spidey> he just took one of lukes cities 05:01 <spidey> now i'm putting units in lukes cities too 05:01 <spidey> me and luke are allies :D 05:04 <Lucifer_arma> he probably developed his cities with something other than "auto settler" :) 05:05 <spidey> i just took over st louis 05:05 <spidey> no he's got city walls and all that 05:05 <spidey> and my bombers and armor say they suck 05:06 <spidey> :D 05:06 <spidey> oh hell no 05:06 <spidey> he just cruise missled me 05:06 <spidey> -_- 05:06 <spidey> that's ok, i'm 1 city away from taking his capital :D 05:11 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:11 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 05:14 <spidey> 1 city away 05:14 <spidey> washington is my next city to capture,plus i landed 10 more armor units there 05:14 <spidey> see....communism and below are the best governments for war 05:22 <spidey> Game: Lost connection: wrath from cpe-72-227-91-190.maine.res.rr.com (player George Washington). 05:22 <spidey> lol 05:26 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-208-175.pskn.east.verizon.net] has quit ["cya later"] 05:27 <Compn> freeciv huh? 05:27 <Compn> easy to learn? 05:27 * Compn should try one day 05:29 <spidey> well 05:29 <spidey> appearently it's not the army you got 05:29 <spidey> it's how you use it 05:29 <spidey> the americans are the strongest 05:29 <spidey> then the japs 05:29 <spidey> then me 05:29 <spidey> and i'm pwning 'em :D 05:29 <Compn> then the japs 05:29 <Compn> ? 05:30 <Compn> no china? 05:30 <spidey> no? 05:30 <Compn> awww 05:37 <spidey> Game: Player 'Sergio Osmena' now has AI skill level 'easy'. 05:37 <spidey> Game: The capture of George Washington's capital and the destruction of the empire's administrative 05:37 <spidey> structures have sparked a civil war. Opportunists have flocked to the rebel cause, 05:37 <spidey> and the upstart Sergio Osmena now holds power in 19 rebel provinces. 05:37 <spidey> took the american captial 05:37 <spidey> :D 05:44 -!- DrJoeTron [i=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-37-225-31.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron 05:46 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: gonna play that game any time soon? 05:49 <DrJoeTron> god damn recording is a pain 05:54 <luke-jr_> rofl 05:54 <luke-jr_> recording is simple 05:55 <spidey> that was fun 05:55 <luke-jr_> someone forgot to set endyear later 05:55 <spidey> :( 05:55 <spidey> i was gonna finish the americans off to 05:55 <spidey> i had 40+ military units over there and 7+ more ready to ship 05:56 <luke-jr_> I totally won 05:56 <luke-jr_> I have at least 500 military units =p 05:56 <luke-jr_> and 2000+ gold 05:56 <spidey> only cause i protected your ass 05:56 <luke-jr_> had* 05:56 <luke-jr_> =p 05:56 <spidey> the americans took one of your cities so i put a few in some of yours 05:56 <spidey> and took yours back :p 05:56 <luke-jr_> new game maybe? 05:56 <spidey> hmm 05:57 <spidey> ya,untill we get ready to finish the other one 05:57 <spidey> Vanhayes wanna play? 05:57 <spidey> me you and luke against 2 AI's 05:57 <spidey> :s 05:57 <spidey> lets play with the world map,too 05:57 <Vanhayes> how about no ais? 05:58 <luke-jr_> why 05:58 * Vanhayes hates ais 05:58 <spidey> so 05:58 <spidey> we got a AI :p 05:58 <spidey> us 3 against them 05:58 <Vanhayes> they make the stupidest decisions 05:58 <Vanhayes> ook 05:58 <spidey> so? 05:58 <luke-jr_> 5564 05:59 <Lucifer_arma> nah, recording is a pain 05:59 <Vanhayes> anyone else want to play? 05:59 <Lucifer_arma> especially voice recording, because I can only do that when my family's not home 05:59 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, anybody here about ready to finish last night's game? 06:00 <Lucifer_arma> looks like there's an active game going right now... 06:00 <Vanhayes> nah 06:00 <Vanhayes> still setting up 06:00 <Vanhayes> Id like to finnish last nights 06:00 <Lucifer_arma> well I can start it up and we can join and wait for the others if we need to 06:01 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I've been ready since 3 PM 06:01 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft took over your player for awhile and did some building up 06:01 <spidey> i'm inif luke is 06:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: spidey ? 06:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ? 06:02 <spidey> can we wait 10 minutes? 06:02 <Vanhayes> what were the host/port again? 06:02 <spidey> i wanna make a pizza 06:02 <spidey> haven't ate all day :( 06:02 <Lucifer_arma> I can wait, I'd like to get GodTodd in here though, don't know that I want to restart without him 06:02 <spidey> k 06:02 <spidey> btw 06:02 <Vanhayes> hmm ya im pretty hungry too 10 min sounds fine to me 06:02 <spidey> i can't play all night 06:02 <Vanhayes> how many hours? 06:02 <spidey> i gotta goto my aunts funeral tomorrow 06:02 <spidey> 2-3 maybe 06:03 <Vanhayes> should be done by then 06:03 <Vanhayes> maybe 06:03 <spidey> k 06:03 <spidey> brb 06:03 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that we'll be done by then, but when we finish tonight, I intend to be done with it :) 06:03 <Lucifer_arma> ok, www.davefancella.com 5555 06:03 <luke-jr_> ? 06:04 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ? 06:04 <Lucifer_arma> so, to run a full-time game server you need some custom shit that's only in FreeCiv cvs 06:05 <Lucifer_arma> and they say it isn't publicly available :( 06:05 <luke-jr_> why? 06:05 <Lucifer_arma> so it's either write your own custom shit, or don't run a full-time game server 06:05 <Lucifer_arma> the web page didn't say why, and I didn't ask anybody 06:06 <luke-jr_> Player 'Observer' now has AI skill level 'normal'. 06:06 <Lucifer_arma> player observer doesn't control a civilization, though 06:07 <luke-jr_> =p 06:09 <spidey> btw 06:09 <spidey> no killing me when we start :p 06:10 <spidey> i gotta fix what my AI broke :/ 06:10 <luke-jr_> O.o 06:10 <luke-jr_> you mean TNA? 06:10 <luke-jr_> =p 06:10 <spidey> both of 'em 06:10 <spidey> heh 06:10 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: pingpingping 06:10 <luke-jr_> I'd rather start a new game if GodTodd isn't there :| 06:10 <spidey> me to 06:10 <spidey> with the world map 06:10 <spidey> :D 06:11 <luke-jr_> I'd rather use a TRON map =p 06:11 <spidey> no 06:11 <Vanhayes> what other maps is there? 06:11 <spidey> tron and freeciv don't mix 06:11 <luke-jr_> lack ran off when I asked him to make a tileset =p 06:11 <luke-jr_> sure they do 06:11 <spidey> LOL 06:11 <spidey> do you blame him? : 06:11 <spidey> :p 06:11 <luke-jr_> yes 06:11 <luke-jr_> well, maybe not 06:11 <spidey> lol 06:11 <luke-jr_> it's not easy :| 06:12 <luke-jr_> stealing screenshots doesn't work well 06:12 <luke-jr_> =p 06:12 <Lucifer_arma> just witing for spidey, then? 06:12 <Vanhayes> spidey join, GodTodd is there now 06:12 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go pee real quick 06:12 <spidey> 5 minutes 06:13 <Lucifer_arma> ok, we'll wait. Your civilization has been wrecked enough by AIs for us to do it while you're waiting :) 06:14 <spidey> -_- 06:14 <Lucifer_arma> so, is there any way to transfer units to an ally? Like, say someone can build lots of units but would prefer to have an ally take them into battle... 06:14 <spidey> if i can bring mom's civ back from almost nothing and pwn the strongest civ army wise 06:14 <spidey> it shouldn't be hard to do this 06:14 <spidey> :p 06:14 <Lucifer_arma> :) 06:14 <Vanhayes> give them the units home city is the only way I have found so far 06:14 <Lucifer_arma> I think you and vanhayes should know, I gave luke some cities back and made a peace with him 06:15 <Vanhayes> ... 06:15 <Vanhayes> nooooooooooooo 06:15 <spidey> lol 06:15 <spidey> LMAO 06:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't want to give up the cities themselves 06:15 * Vanhayes wonders if wrtlprnft screwed anything up or not 06:15 <spidey> Vanhayes i won't our alliance back :D 06:15 <spidey> btw 06:15 <Vanhayes> give me london 06:15 <Vanhayes> heh 06:16 <spidey> isn't the save like 1 hour old? 06:16 <spidey> so the people shouldn't have affected 06:16 <spidey> food brb 06:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, we played for awhile after restoring from an older save 06:16 <Lucifer_arma> also, I cleared out all the saves from previous games, so there should be a save available if something happens this time 06:16 <Lucifer_arma> but if I take my computer outside again, I'll bring the adapter. :) 06:17 <Lucifer_arma> or I could restart it in a screen session real quick 06:18 <spidey> ready 06:19 <Vanhayes> join then 06:19 <spidey> host/port 06:19 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with ww.o 06:19 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with www. 06:19 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 25825 messages. 06:19 <armabot> spidey: [06:04:45] <Lucifer_arma> ok, www.davefancella.com 5555 06:20 * Vanhayes pokes spidey 06:20 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: units belong to cities 06:20 <Vanhayes> crashed... 07:04 -!- deja_vu_ [n=deja_vu@p57A1BF75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 07:06 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@p57A1C231.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:03 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872F32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 08:25 -!- arctanx [i=inverse@124-168-233-79.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #armagetron 08:37 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872F32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:46 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: is a jerk 08:46 <Vanhayes> heh dont be bitter 08:52 <luke-jr_> jerk 08:52 <luke-jr_> die 08:52 <guru3> god, still playing freeciv? 08:53 <luke-jr_> guru3: join us 08:53 <luke-jr_> and kill van 08:53 <luke-jr_> the jerk 08:53 <guru3> but i don't know how to play >< 08:53 <arctanx> who does know how to play freeciv? :P 08:54 <arctanx> next question, why did armabot just message me... 08:55 <Vanhayes> what did it say? 08:55 <arctanx> [16:55:05] armabot Sent 5 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <joda_bot> test 08:55 <arctanx> [16:55:06] armabot Sent 5 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, and 47 minutes ago: <joda_bot> #m joda* test 08:55 <luke-jr_> guru3: learn. we did 08:55 <luke-jr_> we *are*... 08:55 <guru3> lol 08:55 <guru3> i'll emerge it at least 08:55 <Vanhayes> arctanx: that was some saying #later tel *a* test 08:56 <Vanhayes> just random I think 08:56 <arctanx> oh righto then 08:57 <arctanx> #m arctanx yo 08:57 <armabot> arctanx: The operation succeeded. 08:57 <arctanx> well, whatever floats your boat :P 08:57 <Vanhayes> #notes 08:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, operserv, someone, unknown, and z-man. 08:58 <luke-jr_> guru3: fyi, 'dedicated' means *only* dedicated for civ 08:59 <guru3> what's the bin name for freeciv? 09:02 <luke-jr_> civclient 09:02 <guru3> k 09:02 <guru3> i'll remember that 09:04 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@70.88.244.226] has quit [] 09:05 <luke-jr_> guru3: BTW, plans are for a TRON tileset and maybe ruleset 09:05 <guru3> lol 09:07 <luke-jr_> guru3: wanna watch? 09:08 <luke-jr_> (just don't spy for the evil duo) 09:08 <TiTnAsS> lol 09:08 <TiTnAsS> rofl 09:08 <TiTnAsS> luke 09:08 <guru3> when i get my full screen back 09:08 * TiTnAsS is going to come obs 09:08 <TiTnAsS> okay? 09:08 <TiTnAsS> cuz im bored 09:08 <TiTnAsS> whos playing right now? 09:08 <luke-jr_> TiTnAsS: not if you're gonna spy for the evils 09:08 <TiTnAsS> i dunno who the evils are 09:08 <TiTnAsS> but im guessing luci is one of em 09:08 <TiTnAsS> but no, im not spying ^^ 09:09 <luke-jr_> spidey and Vanhayes 09:09 <Vanhayes> ? 09:09 <luke-jr_> you're the evil duo 09:11 <TiTnAsS> luke 09:11 <TiTnAsS> its not possible for me to spy 09:11 <TiTnAsS> i have no clue what your doing anyways 09:11 <TiTnAsS> =p 09:11 <TiTnAsS> im just here cuz im bored 09:13 <luke-jr_> TiTnAsS: just don't spy 09:13 <TiTnAsS> im not 09:13 <TiTnAsS> for the 3rd time 09:13 <TiTnAsS> - -; 09:25 <guru3> luke-jr_: what's the server? 09:26 <luke-jr_> #last --with www --from Lucifer_arma 09:26 <armabot> luke-jr_: [06:04:45] <Lucifer_arma> ok, www.davefancella.com 5555 09:27 <guru3> so how do i spec then? 09:32 <luke-jr_> ? 09:32 <guru3> nm 09:32 <guru3> it was /observe <name? 09:32 <guru3> > 09:34 <guru3> my screen is too big for any of those tile sets >< 09:38 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: ping 09:42 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: of course not! 09:42 <Vanhayes> ? 09:43 <wrtlprnft> 06:15 * Vanhayes wonders if wrtlprnft screwed anything up or not 09:43 <wrtlprnft> ;) 09:43 <Vanhayes> hrh ya you did a pretty good job, we are owning luke-jr_ 09:43 <wrtlprnft> I didn't even meet luke 09:43 <luke-jr_> cuz you're evil and stuff 09:43 <Vanhayes> hahaha 09:44 <luke-jr_> you break peace treaties, oppress, and aggress and stuff 09:44 <Vanhayes> I took almost every city of his 09:44 <Vanhayes> you have a worse rep than me 09:45 <luke-jr_> not my fault 10:01 -!- eddiefantastic [n=ed@81.168.97.148] has joined #armagetron 10:45 <TiTnAsS> oppress? lol 10:45 <TiTnAsS> and luke 10:45 <TiTnAsS> i thought you were the one 10:45 <TiTnAsS> who broke peace treaties 10:45 <TiTnAsS> o.o 10:45 <TiTnAsS> XD 10:49 <DrJoeTron> i forgot my wallet at my friends house :/ 10:49 <TiTnAsS> - -; 10:49 <TiTnAsS> smooth 10:49 <DrJoeTron> super 10:49 <TiTnAsS> ^^ 10:49 <TiTnAsS> sigh.. i get no respect 10:49 <TiTnAsS> "james invite my aka to lux to - -;" 10:49 <TiTnAsS> "NIGGA 10:49 <TiTnAsS> BLWO ME 10:49 <TiTnAsS> /kick me" 10:49 <TiTnAsS> - -; 10:59 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ 10:59 -!- TiTnAsS was kicked from #armagetron by guru3 [your wish is granted] 10:59 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3 11:00 <Vanhayes> lol nice 11:00 <Vanhayes> #night 11:00 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes! 11:00 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188152.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["So thats what that button does...."] 11:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'm never conquering vanhayes again 11:06 <GodTodd> haha 11:06 <spidey> haha 11:07 <wrtlprnft> why? 11:07 <wrtlprnft> are they now attacking you? 11:07 <spidey> his cities are worthless 11:07 <GodTodd> he's a crappy president :) 11:07 <Lucifer_arma> his cities are completely worthless 11:07 -!- TiTnAsS [n=Nick@adsl-69-111-57-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #armagetron 11:07 <TiTnAsS> wtf? 11:07 <TiTnAsS> i didnt ask to be kicked 11:07 <Lucifer_arma> I took a bunch of cities that were in disorder and stayed that way 11:07 <TiTnAsS> it was a quote 11:07 <TiTnAsS> tank 11:07 <TiTnAsS> - -; 11:07 <TiTnAsS> lo 11:07 <Lucifer_arma> shut up or use less lines, TiTnAsS 11:07 <TiTnAsS> - -; 11:07 <wrtlprnft> #realchatlogs 11:07 <TiTnAsS> habit 11:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ 11:08 <Lucifer_arma> well cut it out. There's other people here trying to read that shit. 11:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, if i'd known you was planning to, i wouldn't have canceled our alliance 11:08 <spidey> plus 11:08 <spidey> i lost 2 units 11:08 <spidey> damned nuke 11:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh 11:08 <spidey> to close to rome 11:08 <spidey> :( 11:08 <TiTnAsS> my bad 11:08 <Lucifer_arma> I lost a couple of units, but not many 11:08 <wrtlprnft> i wanna see if those actually were two different TiTnAsS 11:08 <wrtlprnft> or if they're all the same 11:08 <TiTnAsS> what two? 11:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's hard to work something like that, a planned betrayal. If I approached you and you said no, you tell vanhayes and you come after me together. 11:08 <TiTnAsS> err 11:08 <spidey> my main concern was disabling hayes by capturing cities 11:08 <spidey> i didn't care what size 11:08 <spidey> if they was undefended i took 11:09 <TiTnAsS> were not the same titnass - -; 11:09 <TiTnAsS> the other didnt have legit forum name 11:09 <TiTnAsS> i do 11:09 * Lucifer_arma removes the return key from TiTnAsS's keyboard 11:09 <spidey> lol 11:09 <TiTnAsS> .. 11:09 <GodTodd> mine doesn't have a return key ;) 11:09 <TiTnAsS> fine fine /afk 11:10 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm glad you finally popped the cork out of that bottle, but I'm sick and disgusted of the cities I took 11:10 <wrtlprnft> ok, this is the TiTnAsS that claims to be the real one 11:10 <spidey> i wanted to prepare more,but luke was almost dead 11:10 <wrtlprnft> the first one is 11:10 <GodTodd> my cities were ok...just kept biting me at the worst moments :) 11:10 <wrtlprnft> 01:37 -!- TiTnAsS [n=TiTnAsS@c-24-5-242-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron 11:10 <wrtlprnft> the other one is 11:10 <wrtlprnft> 01:37 -!- TiTnAsS [n=TiTnAsS@c-24-5-242-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron 11:10 <wrtlprnft> err 11:10 <wrtlprnft> no 11:11 <wrtlprnft> the other one is 23:37 -!- TiTnAsS [n=Nick@adsl-69-111-57-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #armagetron 11:11 <TiTnAsS> ?... 11:11 <TiTnAsS> i AM the real titnass 11:11 <TiTnAsS> i spam the same as i always did, and im stupid same as always 11:11 <TiTnAsS> ask luci -.- 11:12 <wrtlprnft> well, what's the differenct to the other TiTnAsS then? 11:12 <wrtlprnft> *difference 11:12 <TiTnAsS> i dont troll 11:12 <TiTnAsS> and scam luke for money 11:12 <spidey> GodTodd, sorry for taking your cities, i jsut wanted a fall back because i wasn't strong enough to hold hayes in london :p 11:12 <Lucifer_arma> yes you were, he had a worthless little empire 11:12 <TiTnAsS> and im sorry, ill try to control my spam 11:12 <GodTodd> ummm i wanted you to take them at that time 11:12 <Lucifer_arma> why did he have so many points? 11:12 <TiTnAsS> and i cant control my stupidity 11:12 <wrtlprnft> techs 11:12 <wrtlprnft> and he had a good reputation 11:13 <spidey> he had future techs out the ass 11:13 <Lucifer_arma> next time I'm taking vanhayes on quickly. He's a good ally because he gives you all of his technology, but there are other people that do better with their cities 11:13 <wrtlprnft> always he who made peace and the others who broke it 11:13 <GodTodd> ask spidey, my cities weren't that bad ;) 11:13 <Lucifer_arma> look, I joined that alliance because I was small and too close to them 11:13 <spidey> hell no 11:13 <spidey> they had awesome production 11:14 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't join because I wanted to be part of their conquering 11:14 <GodTodd> by then they did...was too late tho :/ 11:14 <spidey> Lucifer_arma i could have taking hayes out at the beginning 11:14 <spidey> but then he grew stronger 11:14 <spidey> -_- 11:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I should have built more cities early on myself, I had so many new cities that weren't producing fast enough I had to turn them to coinage 11:14 <spidey> i usually only use 5-7 cities 11:15 <Lucifer_arma> I built a whole bunch of cruise missiles and started loading up submarines because I was expeccting a long war in europe 11:15 <spidey> place them in good spots they produce alot 11:15 <spidey> Lucifer_arma i wasn't 11:15 <Lucifer_arma> so I was getting ready to bombard him with cruise missiles. That little deal in asia is exactly what I mean, I sent out my cruise missile and it didn't have a target! 11:15 <spidey> all of lukes units where in america 11:15 <spidey> lukes/hayes's 11:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, we'll have to keep that in mind for next time. Drop a mechanized infantry behind the front lines and wipe out his logistical base, it'll only take one turn 11:16 <GodTodd> did he have just a bunch of ghost towns? 11:16 <Lucifer_arma> yes 11:16 <GodTodd> haha 11:16 <Lucifer_arma> I finally decided to just sell everything and pull my units out and there wasn't anything to sell! 11:16 <spidey> LOL 11:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's when I quit the game, I was so disgusted with what I took 11:17 <GodTodd> he must have just put everything to coinage from the get go then 11:17 <spidey> sok i gotta take a shower,get ready for the funeral 11:17 <spidey> then sleep 11:17 <spidey> brb 11:17 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: the reason I couldn't take his capital right away was because he never finished the rail link. I built it to the sinai peninsula, he ws supposed to finish it, but he didn't 11:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: that's what he did, he took a city then stuck it on coinage and forgot about it 11:17 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i was close and decided it'd be easier to nuke 11:17 <GodTodd> civ takes a certain attention to detail 11:18 <spidey> if i had more time i'd nuked everyone of his cities 11:18 <Lucifer_arma> no shit. I think spidey would have been a good, long fight, well worth the effort 11:18 <TiTnAsS> sleep time, night 11:18 <Lucifer_arma> you would have too, for that matter 11:18 <GodTodd> remind me never to vote vor hayes for president ;) 11:18 <Lucifer_arma> next time I'm picking luke over hayes as my ally 11:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma is that why you wanted out??because we where using nukes? 11:18 <Lucifer_arma> luke builds pretty nice cities. 11:18 <GodTodd> heh i was allied with luke 11:19 <spidey> but 11:19 <spidey> luke doesn't prepare for war 11:19 <spidey> and that gets him in the end 11:19 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: yes, I was also starting to get worried about yu guys 11:19 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, when you finished with todd and luke, who was left? I didn't know if you'd fight each other or come together after me 11:19 <Lucifer_arma> so I started planning my betrayal 11:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i wasn't even gonna bother you...hayes was my main target :) 11:19 <Lucifer_arma> you notice I didn't participate in the american invasion? :) 11:20 <spidey> i did for 1 reason 11:20 <Lucifer_arma> quite the contrary, I was feeding luke money, and ultimately gave him the city I had in australia 11:20 <spidey> i needed a place to retreat incase hayes managed to grab london 11:20 <spidey> lodon was my main city 11:20 <GodTodd> i learned a lot of the nuances with a nice long local game...it's a bit different from the civ2 i usually play 11:20 <Lucifer_arma> that was why I started in australia originally, then luke needed it. :) 11:20 <spidey> heh 11:21 <Lucifer_arma> after I saw australia, I decided that helping luke to build it up would be better than keeping it for myself, he'd make a powerful ally from there 11:21 <Lucifer_arma> and hard to invade 11:21 <spidey> ya i planned to give luke some cities 11:21 <spidey> because i had so many before i nuked hayes 11:22 <spidey> can you believe 11:22 <spidey> i only planned to turn on hayes for 5 turns 11:22 <spidey> lol 11:22 <spidey> just long enough to get defense from nukes air units and ocean units started 11:22 <Lucifer_arma> hayes left us with a bunch of overpopulated cities in disorder. It would have taken hours just to get them out of disorder and where I could put workers back down everywhere 11:22 <spidey> and to build a nuke 11:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd intended to build a navy, then found I didn't have enough production cities for ground units 11:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'll play the next one a bit differently, go for lots of cities early on and then build them all up 11:23 <GodTodd> that seems to be the way to go 11:23 <GodTodd> i did that in the local game and it worked well 11:23 <spidey> so will i 11:23 <spidey> 1 i won't let tna play 11:23 <spidey> :p 11:23 <Lucifer_arma> it was late, but I finally found the value in having a bunch of settlers (later engineers) working together on all the cities 11:23 <spidey> i spent a hella lot of turns fixing the mess he made 11:24 <GodTodd> haha 11:24 <Lucifer_arma> we need more opponents. :) I don't want to have to conquer vanhayes again, he plays like the ai in civ1 11:24 <spidey> lol 11:24 <GodTodd> man...it's been forever since i played civ1 11:24 <Lucifer_arma> I also want to play a map where there are 3 islands and 6 players, 2 on each island 11:25 <spidey> you know 11:25 <spidey> we where almost to late 11:25 <Lucifer_arma> I also would have planned my big production cities differently had I known then what I know now, and probably would have outproduced you 11:25 <spidey> a few more turns luke would have been killed 11:25 <Lucifer_arma> too late for what? 11:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's true, except vanhayes was still looking for his city, afaik 11:25 <spidey> i saw hayes had awtacs after luke so i attacked 11:25 <luke-jr_> zzzz 11:25 <Lucifer_arma> and I gave him a nice little city 11:26 <Lucifer_arma> it wasn't the greatest city, but it was pretty new, already railroaded and irrigated, and with a mine in an oilfield 11:26 <arctanx> freeciv sounds fun :P pity I never could work out how the heck to play 11:26 <Lucifer_arma> I disbanded the engineer, though, needed the shield in its home city 11:26 <spidey> lol 11:26 <luke-jr_> I wouldn't have attacked everyone if the game wasn't already ruined, btw 11:27 <Lucifer_arma> and didn't want to give it a new home since I turned that city to coinage preparing to attack vanhayes 11:27 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: it's ok, we understand. :) 11:27 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, if tna wouldn't have skrewed everything up...i would have been able to take hayes head on 11:27 <Lucifer_arma> in hindsight, I should have allied with luke instead of you and hayes 11:27 <spidey> i had to sell 6-7 unneeded buildings per city 11:27 <spidey> make the people happy again 11:28 <spidey> and redo my government 11:28 <spidey> me?? 11:28 <Lucifer_arma> that's something else that screwed me. When I switched to communism, my income dropped below my expenses, and I hadn't straightened that out yet 11:28 <luke-jr_> btw, global warming and nuke winter are in effect 11:28 <Lucifer_arma> so my income sucked a lot 11:28 <spidey> if that was the case i'd never nuked hayes 11:28 <spidey> and me and hayes would have been the strongest 11:28 <GodTodd> just seems that hayes didn't see the trees for the forest 11:29 <spidey> heh 11:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you guys didn't look closely enough at me. :) I won't say I was terribly strong, but I was finally a force to be reckoned with when the shit hit the fan 11:29 <spidey> i didn't plan to attack hayes untill he started chasing luke for no reason 11:29 <Lucifer_arma> a few more turns and we would've had quite a war going 11:29 <GodTodd> the big picture in civ is made up of a lot of little pictures 11:29 <luke-jr_> ok im done 11:29 <luke-jr_> spidey u want chinese back now? 11:29 <spidey> Lucifer_arma i had nukes and was using them like i use units 11:30 <spidey> :) 11:30 <Lucifer_arma> he was playing it like risk, where a city just produces one thing or whatever 11:30 <spidey> ask todd 11:30 <spidey> and luke 11:30 <spidey> i nuked them both heh 11:30 <Lucifer_arma> another thing, I don't really want to play if I know that every game is going to end in global warming and nuclear winter... 11:30 <spidey> lol 11:30 <Lucifer_arma> I built cruise missiles, they work perfectly fine 11:30 <spidey> bah 11:30 <GodTodd> yeah....i never nuke in civ2 11:30 <spidey> nukes kill everything 11:30 <Lucifer_arma> and I cleaned up my pollution, auto-settler is good for that 11:30 <spidey> i like them better 11:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's right, EVERYTHING 11:31 <spidey> i usually clean up my pollutionafter a nuke 11:31 <arctanx> I have an armagetron question.. people online seem to be able to turn 180?, etc. much faster than it's physically possible to press a button twice. is it normal for people to use some kind of alias or something for double-tap? or are they just stupidly fast? 11:31 <GodTodd> kill, pollute....you name it 11:31 <spidey> but i was in a hurry this game 11:31 <Lucifer_arma> you mean liek this: || ? 11:31 <wrtlprnft> arctanx: bind two buttons for the same dir 11:31 <Lucifer_arma> how about this? ||||||| 11:31 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma is just mocking forum posts on the same issure 11:31 <wrtlprnft> *issue 11:32 <arctanx> ah okay. thanks 11:32 <arctanx> Lucifer_arma: either :P 11:32 <luke-jr_> BTW, the game is hopeless even for me =p 11:32 <luke-jr_> the barbarians have taken over 11:32 <wrtlprnft> but i still prefer /|_SZ/L,^-z 11:32 <spidey> lmao 11:32 <Lucifer_arma> you can blame vanhayes for that 11:32 <spidey> LOL 11:32 <luke-jr_> I can nuke them all I want, but they live :| 11:33 <Lucifer_arma> after my campaign in europe, I had a bunch of local uprisings that were bound to turn out barbarian cities 11:33 <GodTodd> we can blame hayes for a lot of it apparently ;) 11:33 <spidey> btw 11:33 <Lucifer_arma> it was a mess, there wasn't anything left but a headache, and the possibility of building a spaceship dropped off nastily 11:33 <spidey> next world map 11:33 <spidey> i'm playing as afghan 11:33 <spidey> :D 11:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, if todd plays the americans, I want the aztecs 11:33 <GodTodd> you're playing as a blanket? 11:33 <GodTodd> ;) 11:33 <spidey> lol 11:33 <Lucifer_arma> I definitely don't want a continental link to vanhayes 11:33 <spidey> well it's better than england 11:34 <spidey> i only got a small island 11:34 <spidey> Lucifer_arma i do 11:34 <spidey> take him out quick 11:34 <Lucifer_arma> you built a pretty good civilization there 11:34 <spidey> no worries 11:34 <GodTodd> awww luci, i'm touched ;) 11:34 <GodTodd> heh 11:34 <Lucifer_arma> I liked africa a lot, but it was too close to vanhayes 11:34 <spidey> well 11:34 <spidey> todd would have owned us all 11:34 <Lucifer_arma> and while he's a good ally, he's a warmonger 11:34 <spidey> but he gave up 11:35 <GodTodd> nah...if i had played it right from the beginning i would have 11:35 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, I might be willing to play in africa again, with some differences 11:35 <GodTodd> at the point of give up, i was pretty fucked 11:35 <Lucifer_arma> it's a good continent to start on, and until you build ships there's only a small spot to go through 11:35 <spidey> nah 11:35 <spidey> your cities where awesome 11:35 <GodTodd> i had north and south americas that i should have loaded with cities 11:35 <spidey> yo ucould have turned them around easy 11:35 <spidey> oh and btw 11:35 <spidey> democracy sucks 11:35 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't have enough cities either, I was expecting him to have most of that continent settled 11:35 <luke-jr_> we need one where the americas are cut 11:35 <spidey> don't use it 11:36 <luke-jr_> and africa and eurasia are cut 11:36 <Lucifer_arma> democracy is awesome if you intend to be peaceful, it only sucks when you go to war 11:36 <wrtlprnft> well, you guys could have used engineers to make ocean :P 11:36 <Lucifer_arma> and after using communism for war, I think I'm going to try monarchy again next time 11:37 <spidey> you like commy eh? 11:37 <spidey> i love it 11:37 <Lucifer_arma> no, I hated it 11:37 <spidey> i'm republic for research,commy for war 11:37 <Lucifer_arma> no income! 11:37 <spidey> no 11:37 <spidey> i had alot of income from 5 cities with it 11:37 <GodTodd> heh in civ2 i use democracy until i launch my ship then i switch to fundamentalism for war 11:37 <spidey> you just don't know how to use it :p 11:37 <Lucifer_arma> I had a bunch of buildings to support! It was economically a bad switch for me 11:37 <spidey> ohhhh 11:37 <spidey> Lucifer_arma find out how to turn fundamentalism on 11:37 <spidey> that government owns 11:38 <Lucifer_arma> I did finally go through and start selling off buildings 11:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, is fundamentalism available in freeciv? 11:38 <GodTodd> fundamentalism = money out the ass 11:38 <spidey> ya 11:38 <spidey> and good for war because you get 3-4 free units 11:38 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't see it in the menu 11:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's despot, isn't it? 11:38 <spidey> per city that don't cost sheilds 11:38 <Lucifer_arma> despot's good for war, too 11:38 <luke-jr_> fundamentalism is, but I don't know how to get it 11:38 <luke-jr_> seen it on other servers 11:39 <spidey> hmmm 11:39 <spidey> Lucifer_arma get on it :p 11:39 <spidey> brb 11:39 <Lucifer_arma> gotta be in the option dialog then 11:39 <luke-jr_> nope 11:39 <luke-jr_> more likely the ruleset 11:39 <Lucifer_arma> we need to build our own rulesets anyway with the settings we like to use so we don't have to spend 5 minutes before a game fooling with it 11:40 <luke-jr_> well, we need TRON-based ones anyhow =p 11:40 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I'd just use monarchy the whole time if the damn republics didn't outpace me for research 11:40 <GodTodd> does it let you select a ruleset? 11:40 <Lucifer_arma> commandline option for it 11:40 <GodTodd> k 11:41 <GodTodd> if you select the civ2 ruleset it has fundamentalism 11:41 <GodTodd> :) 11:41 <Lucifer_arma> overall I enjoyed the game, though, but I think I screwed up early too 11:41 <GodTodd> i did too...or it would have ended up awesome 11:41 <Lucifer_arma> maybe use coinage to build the defensive units to start each city or something 11:41 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the way I like to work an invasion is completely counter to the way vanhayes does it 11:42 <GodTodd> heh 11:42 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, he does alright setting up, but I like to plan air support from the beginning 11:42 <GodTodd> that and you need to make sure you defend your own cities 11:42 <luke-jr_> gnight 11:42 <GodTodd> night luke 11:42 <luke-jr_> zzzzz 11:42 <Lucifer_arma> that's kinda the reason I didn't participate much in the asian fight, I was working on production so I could build airplanes and navy so I could have support for the ground troops 11:43 <Lucifer_arma> then I send over the first two transports worth of units after staging them, so when the transports get back, there's enough new units built to send a second wave 11:43 <GodTodd> i'm going to play it more like i play civ2 11:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, remove the "two", the actual number of transports depends on the size of the target 11:43 <GodTodd> that's how i do it in civ2 11:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, me too. :) 11:44 <Lucifer_arma> this is the first time I've played freeciv seriously. Last time I played it you had to wait like 4 seconds between every turn and I thought that was unplayable 11:44 <GodTodd> i build a few transports then have everyone meet up at that city and load, send, come back, repeat 11:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's what I do. build the transport in the staging city, use the cities you build inland to build the ground units 11:44 <GodTodd> i played freeciv like 7 years ago heh 11:44 <GodTodd> yep 11:44 <GodTodd> works great 11:45 <GodTodd> and i usually have too many units after killing everyone ;) 11:45 <GodTodd> i don't even use cruise missles 11:45 <Lucifer_arma> I should've known something was wrong with hayes when he build a road across africa "to move troops to america faster" instead of a railroad 11:45 <GodTodd> or planes 11:45 <GodTodd> haha 11:45 <Lucifer_arma> if you've got the technological upper hand, you don't need air support 11:45 <GodTodd> exactly 11:46 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, come on, that road didn't speed up his troops any faster than finishing the rail link and using my own cities as a staging area would have 11:46 <GodTodd> yep 11:46 * Lucifer_arma was really pissed the rail link wasn't finished 11:46 <GodTodd> i could tell 11:47 <Lucifer_arma> I built most of the rail link from shanghai, he built cities in my direction instead of railway 11:47 <GodTodd> that's messed up 11:47 <GodTodd> heh 11:47 <wrtlprnft> well, a railway makes you voulnerable 11:47 <Lucifer_arma> and at the time that I built the african rail, I was still in the bottom third of the continent 11:47 <Lucifer_arma> not if you fortify it 11:47 <Lucifer_arma> at least I was able to build my forts without arousing suspicion. "There's barbarians in africa!" heh 11:47 <GodTodd> and a railway is bidirectional....it makes it easier for both sides to attack 11:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's why you build forts at the bottleneck of the railway and put units in them 11:48 <GodTodd> yep 11:48 <Lucifer_arma> then you can go through without penalty, but the other guy can't. It's a one-way window 11:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, after the european campaign finally kicked off I sent a bunch of engineers to finish the link. 11:49 <Lucifer_arma> they were almost finished when I quit 11:49 <GodTodd> doesn't take long 11:49 <Lucifer_arma> not when you put 4 on the job, anyway 11:49 <GodTodd> that's what i would have done 11:49 <Lucifer_arma> had to stop cleaning up pollution in the meantime though :/ 11:50 <GodTodd> auto settlers works great for pollution cleanup 11:50 <Lucifer_arma> yes it does. Then you only need 2 engineers to keep up with it :) 11:50 <GodTodd> they go to polluted tiles like flies to shit 11:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only use I found for it, heh. That and you just want to keep some engineers around anyway because when you need them, you really need them 11:50 <GodTodd> yeah 11:50 <Lucifer_arma> so keep 'em around on auto-settler and they'll fill in holes for you that you missed 11:51 <GodTodd> yep :) 11:51 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm still going to micromanage my settlers and engineers, and that means no time limit because that shit takes time 11:51 <GodTodd> and auto worker works great for me most of the time 11:51 <GodTodd> yeah...but they're easy to grab off of auto if you need them redirected 11:51 <Lucifer_arma> I couldn't figure out why my cities weren't producing. Maybe I need to learn how this CMA works 11:51 <arctanx> wrtlprnft: even with double-binding, it still takes 3 grid squares to turn right around. is this some input limitation with my computer or have I missed something else? 11:52 <Lucifer_arma> arctanx: there's an input limitation in effect in a lot of places 11:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's a setting, well, two settings actually 11:52 <GodTodd> yeah...i fiddled a little with the cma...not sure i fully grasp it tho 11:52 <arctanx> Lucifer_arma: o right within the game you mean? is there a list of the server settings somewhere? 11:52 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna check it out 11:53 <wrtlprnft> arctanx: it depends on the server too 11:53 <Lucifer_arma> arctanx: check out the wiki for this sort of thing. http://wiki.armagetronad.net 11:53 <wrtlprnft> there's a minimum delay between turn, it defaults to 0.1 11:53 <arctanx> I'm just playing on a local server with install defaults 11:53 <wrtlprnft> s 11:53 <wrtlprnft> arctanx: yeah, then you have a delay of 0.1s 11:53 <wrtlprnft> you can set CYCLE_DELAY to something smaller 11:53 <wrtlprnft> but NOT 0 unless you want weird bugs 11:54 <arctanx> ah I see. thanks for that 11:54 <Lucifer_arma> but anyway, I couldn't figure out why my cities weren't producing, and then I had an epiphany that I usually get a surplus of food, then stick new workers on shield production 11:54 <Lucifer_arma> and use my settlers to make the most shield production I can 11:54 <Lucifer_arma> by the time you reach a point where you need lots of shields, you have plenty of population to work with, as long as you've kept up with city improvements 11:54 <spidey> Lucifer_arma i can own a entire civ, with 3 bombers a few fighters and 15-20 armor tanks 11:55 <spidey> it's not what you got 11:55 <spidey> it's how you use what you got 11:55 <Lucifer_arma> that's called "air support" :) 11:55 <spidey> i owned the americans in that game me and luke played with those amount of units 11:55 <Lucifer_arma> my battle plan in civ1 was always "bomb the piss out of them, then conquer their cities with obsolete ground troops" 11:55 <spidey> lol 11:55 <spidey> i like taking coastal cities first 11:55 <spidey> unloading my troops in them 11:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'd drop a few cruise missiles and hit with bombers, then take in a catapult or a horseman, heh 11:56 <spidey> then work inward 11:56 <spidey> lol 11:56 <Lucifer_arma> ideally I put battleships on all the coastal cities with carriers right behind them 11:56 <spidey> i like to keep my units upto date 11:56 <Lucifer_arma> you can guess how I worked it, but the air units went inland 11:56 <spidey> hence i always build a leonardos workshop 11:56 <spidey> that's always my first goal 11:56 <spidey> instead of spending extra to upgrade units 11:57 <spidey> it takes my old ones and upgrades them 11:57 <Lucifer_arma> does it become obsolete? 11:57 <spidey> yes 11:57 <Lucifer_arma> when? 11:57 <spidey> after electricity is researched 11:57 <spidey> no 11:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's usually pretty late in the game 11:57 <spidey> that's the great library 11:57 <spidey> hmm 11:57 <spidey> i can't remember 11:57 <spidey> but it's a goodways down 11:57 <GodTodd> heh....i usually want philosophy and darwin's voyage myself 11:58 <GodTodd> free tech ;) 11:58 <spidey> why? 11:58 <Lucifer_arma> I used to go for colossus right away, and then darwin's voyage 11:58 <spidey> great library is better 11:58 <spidey> bah 11:58 <Lucifer_arma> not against ai's it isn't, because you usually outpace the ais 11:58 <spidey> skrew happy citizens 11:58 <wrtlprnft> automobile makes it obsolete 11:58 <spidey> ya 11:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, in civ1 colossus was good for trade 11:58 <GodTodd> if you're the first to get philosophy you get a free tech and darwin's gives you 2 11:58 <spidey> hmm 11:59 <spidey> wanna start a new game? :p 11:59 <spidey> a quick one 11:59 <GodTodd> and i usually try to time darwin's to be built right about the time i get industrialization 12:00 <GodTodd> so that when KRC is obsoleted i get factories :) 12:01 <Lucifer_arma> no new game, I've got to do some work 12:01 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I want to play, though :) 12:01 <spidey> new game!? 12:01 <spidey> i'm in 12:01 <Lucifer_arma> I want to play a map that has 6 civilizations at 20th century technology ready for war 12:01 <Lucifer_arma> at pre-WWII 20th century, that is 12:01 <spidey> hmm 12:02 <Lucifer_arma> and I want them all roughly equal, which isn't how it usually works out 12:02 * spidey goes to talk to his reverse engineering friends 12:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's a map editor, but I couldn't get it to build, and the maintainer quit maintaining it 12:02 <spidey> ? 12:02 <Lucifer_arma> the freeciv project isn't planning on embedding one until 2.2, and they're at 2.1beta2 right now 12:02 <spidey> hmm 12:03 <Lucifer_arma> so we need to sit down and just build the map, probably take about 4 hours, and we'd just play a game, exchange technology and stuff, 12:03 <Lucifer_arma> and then save it right at the point we want to start again 12:03 <Lucifer_arma> you know, break off alliances and stuff, then save it 12:03 <Lucifer_arma> that would probably be faster than doing it by hand, but the save game format is documented, it might be doable by hand, I don't really know 12:04 <spidey> i wonder 12:04 <spidey> i have civ2 on cd 12:04 <spidey> if i can make a map 12:04 <spidey> then convert it for freeciv 12:04 <Lucifer_arma> no way that I know of, but that doesn't mean there's no way. I don't know a lot about freeciv 12:04 <spidey> i'ma install civ2 and compare mapfiles 12:04 <spidey> sec 12:05 <Lucifer_arma> when I told luke to run a freeciv server (and kicked off this round of freeciv playing), all I knew about it was that it was the "other" big open source network game 12:05 <spidey> big? 12:05 <spidey> i haven't seen many people besides us 12:05 <Lucifer_arma> yeah. The 3 primary open source network games are bzflag, freeciv, and us :) 12:05 <DrJoeTron> i dont see many people besides us on arma 12:05 <wrtlprnft> even bzflag is bigger, and it sucks 12:05 <spidey> lol 12:05 <DrJoeTron> bzflag is huge 12:06 <DrJoeTron> and is horrible 12:06 <wrtlprnft> way to cheatable 12:06 <wrtlprnft> *too 12:06 <Lucifer_arma> talking about big as in lots of people know about it, not necessarily lots of people play it 12:06 <Lucifer_arma> and bzflag, freeciv, and arma have all been staples of linux distributions for as long as I can remember 12:06 <DrJoeTron> bzflag is the biggest 12:06 <Lucifer_arma> bzflag is also very old 12:07 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar_ [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron 12:07 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't it predate linux? 12:07 <DrJoeTron> just Battle Zone 12:07 * spidey yawns 12:07 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv's probably got a lot of closet players, too, people that don't play much, but hit it hard every now and then 12:08 <GodTodd> that's the nature of civ 12:08 <spidey> i don't think i'd actually play this type of game with a random person 12:08 <spidey> it's more fun with people you know :D 12:08 <DrJoeTron> which is why i play arma 12:08 <DrJoeTron> its hard to play games online with random people 12:08 <GodTodd> i suck at arma heh 12:08 <DrJoeTron> i can do that with ai and get the same affect 12:09 <DrJoeTron> the ai is much more polite 12:09 <spidey> well 12:09 <spidey> i can play games like 12:09 <DrJoeTron> they know that they are to be seen, not to be heard 12:09 <spidey> arma,halo and those type with people i don' tknow 12:09 <DrJoeTron> fuck halo 12:09 <spidey> but this kinda game requires alot of work 12:09 <spidey> fuck you 12:09 <DrJoeTron> halo sucks 12:09 <spidey> DrJoeTron sucks 12:09 <spidey> and deja_vu_ does to 12:10 * DrJoeTron not nearly as much as halo does 12:10 <DrJoeTron> that imposter tit guy wouldnt shut up about his halo clan 12:10 <wrtlprnft> if (game.name() != "Armagetron Advanced") game.sucks = true; 12:10 <DrJoeTron> arma too! 12:10 <DrJoeTron> spidey 12:10 <DrJoeTron> get around to playing hl2 12:11 <spidey> do i have to pay for it? 12:11 <DrJoeTron> the demo no 12:11 <DrJoeTron> the game yes 12:11 <spidey> then no :) 12:11 <DrJoeTron> the game has a crap load of mods 12:11 <DrJoeTron> try the demo at least 12:11 <DrJoeTron> its a big demo 12:12 <DrJoeTron> if you're not sure what your doing 12:12 <DrJoeTron> its like 2-3 hours 12:12 <spidey> damn 12:12 <spidey> civ2 maps are encrypted 12:12 <spidey> -_- 12:12 <DrJoeTron> and its friggin scary 12:13 <DrJoeTron> gotta run 12:13 -!- DrJoeTron [i=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-37-225-31.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:15 <spidey> luke-jr_?? 12:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I second the "I want to play this game with people I know" 12:15 <spidey> ya it's more fun 12:16 <Lucifer_arma> I think if we dug up a bunch of arma players and stuck them on maps, the doublegrinders would build civilizations like, well, like vanhayes 12:16 <spidey> HAHA 12:16 <Lucifer_arma> then their personality differences would really show :) 12:16 <spidey> you know what 12:16 <spidey> hayes might have beat us all in the beginning if we didn't ally with him 12:16 <spidey> usually he takes out most of my cities early in the game 12:17 <Lucifer_arma> actually, he makes good use of a small amount of resources, he'll be scary if he figures out how useful it is to actually build up cities 12:17 * spidey knows how 12:17 <spidey> :D 12:17 <spidey> the trick is all cities on the coast with coastal defense 12:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, he plays like an ai, seriously that's what he does 12:17 <spidey> all except the captial 12:18 <Lucifer_arma> and like an ai, he starts fighting pretty early. Even his cities that he'd had for a long time didn't have anything in them. 12:18 * deja_vu_ kills spidey with a brick 12:18 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu 12:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he put stuff in them and then sold it later? I don't know. 12:18 <spidey> if Lucifer_arma wasn't allied with us i probably wouldn't have nuked hayes 12:18 <spidey> deja_vu 12:18 <wrtlprnft> poor deja_vu, everyone wakes him 12:18 <Lucifer_arma> well shit. If you're planning a betrayal with nukes, throw together a fallback plan without nukes 12:18 <spidey> deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu 12:18 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:18 <deja_vu> grrr wrtlprnft :P 12:19 <Lucifer_arma> then right before you betray, ask the third ally if he's in, and if he says no, nuke 12:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma i had a fallback plan,that's why i attacked america with him 12:19 <Lucifer_arma> I would've said yes, but only if you stop using nukes. Then we could have divided up europe 12:19 <spidey> he was using my transport ships 12:19 <spidey> so i delayed the ones with his troops on them 12:19 <spidey> let mine capture the cities 12:19 <spidey> then brought his onland 12:20 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that's probably why he was thirsty for more cities and kept looking for luke 12:20 <Lucifer_arma> although I don't know which one of us he'd have turned against first 12:20 <spidey> thirsty? 12:20 <spidey> he had the most cities 12:20 <spidey> probably you 12:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but they were all worthless. 12:20 <spidey> because mine was well defended 12:20 <spidey> he was going after the weakest targets first 12:20 <Lucifer_arma> I figured I was next in line, partly because I wasn't participating in the invasion, and partly because I didn't help much in asia anyway 12:21 <spidey> he cripled luke then went after todd 12:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but by the time he was ready to come after me, I wasn't very weak anymore 12:21 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I probably started building my army a little late, but even so, by the time he was ready to come at me, I would've had at least 3 tanks per city 12:21 <spidey> btw 12:21 <spidey> if you plan to betray someone 12:21 <Lucifer_arma> you were going to have to nuke me 12:22 <spidey> make sure you got enough troops in the continent to take out everything in one sweep 12:22 <spidey> half my troops where in america and i couldn't take it all like i wanted 12:22 <spidey> just enough to get rid of most of his military 12:22 <Lucifer_arma> and let me sail right in? heh 12:22 <spidey> lol 12:23 <Lucifer_arma> of course, you were expecting me to sail in and fight you instead, funny how that worked out 12:23 <spidey> i knew something was up with you 12:23 <spidey> i'd seen part of your military 12:23 <spidey> and knew you had enough to help 12:23 <Lucifer_arma> I was fortifying against that barbarian city we thought was in africa 12:24 <Lucifer_arma> :) 12:24 <spidey> lol 12:24 <Lucifer_arma> vanhayes flew a helicopter right through me and didn't question the forts 12:24 <spidey> heh 12:24 <spidey> i think he knew you'd attack 12:24 <spidey> but didn't expect me to 12:24 <Lucifer_arma> and I ws sticking MI and armor in them, planning on having 10 in each fort when I started attacking 12:24 <spidey> because he knew i'd use nukes 12:24 <spidey> and he didn't have protection from them 12:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if he suspected me, those forts were pretty suspicious and I'd been pretty quiet for a long time 12:25 <spidey> hehe 12:25 <spidey> those damned barbarians kept killing my settlers in africa 12:25 <Lucifer_arma> in the beginning I was all trying to help but was too far away to build the units needed against luke 12:25 <spidey> -_- 12:25 <Lucifer_arma> I know they had a city, but I don't know where it was. Those forts were supposed to protect against the barbarians too. 12:26 <Lucifer_arma> I had decided that when I had an average of about 8 MI and armor units in each fort and city along my front lines, I would start in on air support units 12:26 <Lucifer_arma> but I was building cruise missiles anyway in one city 12:26 <spidey> man 12:26 <Lucifer_arma> two, shanghai too, but I expected to lose that city pretty early in the fighting anyway 12:26 <spidey> i was putting out a bomber every 5 turns in one city and every 8 turns in another 12:26 <Lucifer_arma> and I was going to let vanhayes come after me, even if that let luke rotting on the vine 12:27 <spidey> lol 12:27 <Lucifer_arma> I had those kinds of production rates, but I was building other improvements at the time 12:27 <Lucifer_arma> more improvements means more targets, and when the other guy starts bombing, that improves the chances that the improvements that matter will survive 12:28 <Lucifer_arma> I was also working on nuke and missile defenses, I wanted those in place before it all hit the fan 12:28 <spidey> when i gave luke all but 2 of my cities they was all building air,nuke,and water defense 12:29 <Lucifer_arma> you should've built paratroopers for your betrayal of vanhayes :) 12:29 <spidey> LOL 12:29 <Lucifer_arma> then toss a few missiles, drop paratroopers 12:29 <Lucifer_arma> my grand plan, had there been time to build it, was to put airbases in north africa and a coupe of cities for paratroopers 12:30 <spidey> ya 12:30 <Lucifer_arma> but the airbases would have drawn too much suspicion, which is why I settled for forts, and even then I put the forts farther south than the air bases I would've put in 12:30 <spidey> before all that happened with my internet i was going t obuild a base in the middle of hayes 12:30 <Lucifer_arma> then I was going to send a couple of submarines over to britain loaded up with cruise missiles to keep you busy while I took on vanhayes 12:31 <spidey> nah 12:31 <Lucifer_arma> the reason I ultimately decided I should've allied with luke was because if he could've pressed from the east, it would have helped my own attack quite a bit 12:31 <spidey> my battleships would have killed the subs 12:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd have sent the subs with enough missiles that I could shoot the battleships when I saw them :) 12:31 <Lucifer_arma> I did that at the end there, right before I cut out 12:32 <Lucifer_arma> cruise missiles are very useful weapons :) 12:32 <spidey> heh 12:32 <spidey> i like nukes 12:32 * spidey turns into russians 12:32 <Lucifer_arma> nukes are nice if planned well, to be honest 12:32 <spidey> ya 12:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'll nuke a capital city and then take it with ground units, and I'll nuke key production cities, but I'll also have some engineers ready to clean up 12:32 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want nuclear winter! 12:33 <spidey> lol 12:33 <spidey> before i gave everything to luke 12:33 <Lucifer_arma> man, you've gotta feel some sympathy for vanhayes though. Everything was going so well for him, then in two turns he was wiped out. 12:33 <spidey> my production was so high i had 30tons of pollution 12:33 <spidey> lol,ya 12:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh, when I noticed that we were matching in pollution, I built some reccycling centers and stuff to cut mine 12:34 <spidey> i built transits 12:34 <Lucifer_arma> I think we were pretty closely matched, except that you'd been building military units a lot longer than I was, but I didn't want you to see that we were closely matched 12:34 <spidey> heh 12:34 <Lucifer_arma> because then you would have seen me as a real threat, not someone to be walked over like you did in asia and then america 12:35 <spidey> for only 5 cities i did pretty well 12:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you did. :) 12:35 <Lucifer_arma> in civ1, the best strategy was to only build 4-5 cities and make them high producing cities, then conquer the world 12:36 <Lucifer_arma> sometime after you get gunpowder, anyway 12:36 <Lucifer_arma> apparently that changed in civ2, but I didn't play enough of it to get the hang of what was different 12:36 <spidey> lol 12:37 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm still a bit locked in civ1 strategy, so I only built 4 cities and used those for a long time 12:37 <spidey> ya 12:38 <Lucifer_arma> had I played it smartly and kept building settlers and sending them north so I could settle the whole continent, I would have walked over vanhayes much earlier 12:38 <spidey> lol 12:38 <Lucifer_arma> but I only wanted to cripple him, you were the biggest threat, as long as american battleships didn't appear anyway 12:38 <Lucifer_arma> and when I saw todd show up with ironclads, I stopped being worried :) 12:39 <spidey> LOL 12:39 <spidey> todd once was ranked highest by army 12:39 <spidey> what happened to him 12:39 <Lucifer_arma> next game will be different. 12:39 <spidey> :-s 12:40 <Lucifer_arma> that was in defensive units, and you know that. :) 12:40 <spidey> yes,for one i won't pick a nation with a shitty land mass -_ 12:40 <spidey> -_- 12:40 <spidey> todd didn't have many cities 12:40 <Lucifer_arma> I usually only attack with 2 units left in each city to defend, and most of this game I didn't have any units in my cities 12:40 <spidey> he had more than me 12:40 <spidey> but not alot 12:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how many ships he had around, those count too 12:41 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd guess he had at least 2 units in every city, maybe 3 or more 12:41 <Lucifer_arma> you wouldn't have noticed, you nuked :) 12:41 <spidey> haha 12:41 <spidey> i wanted his cities with minimal losses 12:41 <spidey> i knew i was gonna turn on hayes 12:41 <Lucifer_arma> well of course, after todd you either had to come at me or him, one of the two 12:42 <spidey> well my plan was 12:42 <Lucifer_arma> I was going to be costly, and when I saw how it was going I was preparing. Vanhayes was supposed to be costly too, heh. 12:42 <spidey> capture haye's cities build them up 12:42 <spidey> then come after you 12:42 <Lucifer_arma> he probably thinks we coordinated the betrayal from the way it looked 12:42 <spidey> lol 12:42 <spidey> nah 12:42 <spidey> i only told luke 12:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh, well obviously I wasn't going to sit by and watch. I was either coming to his aid or dividing his kingdom up with you 12:43 <spidey> told him to try to hang in till my nuke finished 12:43 <Lucifer_arma> well I told Luke too, maybe that's why he was only worried about vanhayes when he talked to me 12:43 <spidey> heh 12:44 <spidey> i only nuked luke because hayes knew i had one left and it would have looked weird if i bypassed him 12:44 <Lucifer_arma> man, I was building a new cruise missile every 3 turns 12:44 <spidey> heh 12:45 <Lucifer_arma> faster when I had money to buy them, but I admit I was spending that on MI and armor 12:45 <spidey> ya 12:45 <spidey> i used most of my money on nukes 12:45 <Lucifer_arma> actually, it was 2 missiles every 3 turns, but shanghai doesn't really count. Those were built to defend that city, not run a campaign 12:45 <spidey> which is why i was low on troops 12:45 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar_ is now known as [Xpert]DarkStar 12:46 * spidey slaps [Xpert]DarkStar 12:46 <Lucifer_arma> I would have been perfectly happy to collect all of vanhayes' troops for him and then move them to some island in the south pacific 12:46 <spidey> [NP]Tangent WAKE UP! 12:46 <spidey> heh 12:46 <spidey> i should have allied with todd 12:46 <spidey> me and him could have whiped everyone out 12:47 <spidey> speaking of which, i'm picking canada next time 12:47 <Lucifer_arma> maybe vanhayes would've allied with luke then. I got the impression he was only going after luke because you wanted to, and he had to either do that or come after me 12:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe I'll stay in africa then. :) I like africa, really. 12:47 <spidey> lol 12:47 <Lucifer_arma> lots of resources, you can build very nice cities there 12:47 <spidey> it has good oilfeilds 12:58 <Lucifer_arma> australia has some nice oilfields 12:59 <Lucifer_arma> I stuck a mine in one and was getting like 6-8 shields out of it 12:59 <spidey> O.o 12:59 <Lucifer_arma> a factory and another mined field on that city would have made it a very nice city indeed 12:59 <Lucifer_arma> that's the city I gave to luke :) 12:59 <spidey> lol 13:00 <Lucifer_arma> you know, when vanhayes told me shanghai was a nice city, I should've known what to expect in his cities 13:00 <Lucifer_arma> that was in the mid range of my own cities, and the only reason it wasn't a low end city was because I started building new ones late in the game 13:00 <spidey> after i killed hayes' capital and took some of his cities to kill most of his army i gave luke all but 2 of my cities 13:00 <spidey> lol 13:00 <Lucifer_arma> I saw that, I was passing over the one you kept over in the middle east 13:01 <spidey> :p 13:01 <Lucifer_arma> then I was so busy trying to get all of vanhayes' cities out of disorder that I didn't want to take the time to break off peace with you just so I could attack one measly city 13:01 <spidey> lol 13:02 <spidey> i kept a city in america to 13:02 <spidey> didn't mean to 13:02 <Lucifer_arma> I was going to give luke back all of his asian cities, rebuild vanhayes's empire, and ask for a save game and finish it up tomorrow 13:02 <arctanx> are you guys still talking about the same game? 13:02 <Lucifer_arma> then we'd fight a real world war 13:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah 13:02 <arctanx> the one you were talking about almost 2 hours ago? :P 13:02 <arctanx> how long did it go for? 13:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's a game that takes several days to play, you kinda want to talk about it afterwards :) 13:02 <spidey> it went for 2 days 13:03 <Lucifer_arma> I estimate it was about a 12 hour game, possibly longer 13:03 <arctanx> gee. any sleeping in that? 13:03 <spidey> yes 13:03 <Lucifer_arma> would have been much longer if vanhayes didn't have such a shitty empire that I had to leave before I puked 13:03 <spidey> that's what saves are for :p 13:03 <spidey> LOL 13:04 <Lucifer_arma> I need to work on my early empire building, though. It's taking me too long to get a strong empire going 13:05 <spidey> heh 13:05 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, were you feeding vanhayes all those technologies? That's why I thought he had more than he had, I wasn't contributing much technology to the alliance but he kept giving them to me 13:05 <Lucifer_arma> so I thought he'd developed them himself 13:05 <Lucifer_arma> after I thought about it later, it occured to me that maybe you had developed most of them while he and I were off in asia 13:05 <spidey> i gave him some of them 13:07 <spidey> hmm 13:07 <spidey> ironic 13:07 <spidey> didn't rome actually fall because of betrayal? 13:08 <Lucifer_arma> yep :) 13:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I just connected to the game, barbarians have taken over most of the world 13:08 <spidey> haha 13:09 <Lucifer_arma> this might be an interesting save game to play, actually 13:09 <Lucifer_arma> you know, to pick up where it's at 13:10 <spidey> O.o 13:10 <Lucifer_arma> there's only two civilizations left, it's in nuclear winter 13:22 <spidey> wasn't it in nuclear winter before we left? 13:25 <spidey> http://www.volny.cz/behounek/freeciv/maps/index.html#lgm180x90 13:27 -!- Nixda584 [n=54befbcb@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron 13:27 <Nixda584> hi 13:27 <spidey> 2020? 13:27 <Nixda584> hi spidey 13:27 <spidey> 'ello 13:28 <Nixda584> what means 2020? 13:28 <spidey> ? 13:28 <Nixda584> are u speak german? 13:28 <spidey> no 13:29 <Nixda584> u wrote "2020?" what mean that? 13:29 <spidey> it's a persons name 13:29 <Nixda584> ok i understand 13:30 <Nixda584> ;-) 13:31 <Nixda584> we are alone her in this chat room? 13:31 <spidey> nah 13:31 <Nixda584> nah? 13:31 <spidey> no 13:32 <Nixda584> are u play armagetron? 13:32 <spidey> yes 13:32 <Nixda584> and what is u favorit server? 13:33 <Nixda584> hi wejp 13:33 <spidey> i don't really have a favorite,i play where there's the most people at that time 13:33 <wejp> hi 13:33 <Nixda584> do u know silvs tavern? 13:33 <spidey> yes 13:33 <Nixda584> @wejp mal wieder hier zu sehen gruss von pegasus 13:34 <wejp> :) 13:34 <Nixda584> :-)) 13:34 <wejp> wieso hast du hier so einen komischen namen? 13:34 <Nixda584> @wejp weil ich nicht angemeldet bin 13:35 <wejp> hm, man muss sich doch nirgends anmelden o_O 13:36 <Nixda584> @wejp du bringst mich jetzt in verlegenheit ich habe einfach nur login gedr?ckt ohne einen namen einzugeben und habe automatisch diesen namen zugeordnet bekommen 13:36 <wejp> ach ich glaube du bis ?ber so ein web-irc teil hier im channel. 13:37 <wejp> dachte du h?ttest ganz normal einen irc client 13:37 <wejp> ;) 13:37 <Nixda584> @wejp ;-)) 13:38 <Nixda584> irc steht f?r? 13:38 <wejp> internet relay chat 13:38 <Nixda584> c=client 13:38 <Nixda584> ok 13:38 <Nixda584> danke 13:38 <wejp> halt ein riesiges chat netzwerk, in unserem fall halt freenode 13:38 <wejp> irc gibt es schon seeeeeehr lange 13:39 <Nixda584> @wejp irc ist mir wohl entgangen ;-) 13:39 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:39 <wejp> naja du benutzt es ja grade, wenn auch ?ber so ein seltsames webinterface ;) 13:40 * spidey slaps wejp 13:40 <wejp> :P 13:40 <Nixda584> ich werde mich ?ber freenode jetzt mal ein wenig schlau machen 13:40 <spidey> :D 13:40 <wejp> ok 13:40 <wejp> ;) 13:40 <Nixda584> bye 13:40 <wejp> cu 13:41 <spidey> same here 13:41 <Nixda584> sch?n mal wieder was von dir geh?rt zu haben 13:41 <spidey> #night 13:41 <armabot> Good night spidey! 13:41 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron 13:41 <wejp> :) 13:41 <Nixda584> bye spidey 13:41 <Nixda584> @all bye bye 13:41 -!- Nixda584 [n=54befbcb@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"] 14:26 <Lucifer_arma> damn, it's hard to reconquer a continent full of barbarians with railroads 14:26 <Lucifer_arma> soon as you take a city they take it right back 14:46 <GodTodd> heh 14:51 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["leaving"] 14:54 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron 16:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Client_Manual#Citizen_Management_Agent_.28CMA.29_detailed 17:06 * spidey yawns 17:07 <spidey> i'm not sure going to sleep was a good idea -_- 17:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh 17:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm about to go to sleep now, but I found some little interesting tidbits 17:09 <Lucifer_arma> the CMA I just linked 17:10 <spidey> i know :) 17:10 <Lucifer_arma> if you haven't found it already, you can save your global worklists with File->Save Settings. That saves global worklists among your settings. 17:10 <spidey> i use it 17:10 <spidey> gotta go 17:10 <Lucifer_arma> bye 17:10 <Lucifer_arma> have fun at the funeral 17:10 <spidey> -_- 17:10 <Lucifer_arma> show them the fun in funeral :) 17:10 <spidey> 95 fucking degrees 17:10 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm a get some sleep, then cook dinner, then get my settings saved the way I want them, with the right popups and everything 17:28 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6085 /private/nemostultae/ruby/armagetronad/src/swig/ext/armagetronad/tools/ (tTypemaps.i tools.i): Added typemaps for tString 18:32 -!- Commn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 18:33 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:17 -!- Commn is now known as Compn 19:25 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron 19:25 <ghableska> hello 19:26 <guru3> 'lo 19:55 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034186143.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron 19:57 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes 20:02 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6086 /private/nemostultae/ruby/armagetronad/src/swig/ext/armagetronad/tools/tTypemaps.i: Use StringValuePtr over STR2CSTR 20:04 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 20:22 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs 20:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ 20:39 <wrtlprnft> are they updated again? 20:40 <wrtlprnft> my wlan is having weird issues and disconnects briefly all the time, with the effect that for some reason all my NFS mounts get unmounted 20:41 <wrtlprnft> obviously not, last time was around 8AM.. 20:43 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@71.248.225.210] has joined #armagetron 20:45 -!- Commn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 20:46 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:47 -!- Nullipennes [n=username@81.25.40.61] has joined #armagetron 20:47 <Nullipennes> 38 check this http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389 20:47 -!- Nullipennes [n=username@81.25.40.61] has left #armagetron [] 20:47 <ghableska> O_o 20:49 <wrtlprnft> now we're getting IRC spam? 20:49 <ghableska> looks like it 20:49 <wrtlprnft> and i clicked it :( 20:49 * wrtlprnft punches himself 20:49 <ghableska> me too, lol 20:49 <luke-jr_> lol 20:49 <luke-jr_> ref_id is a give away 20:50 <wrtlprnft> yeah 20:50 <wrtlprnft> that's why i thought AFTER i clicked it 20:50 <luke-jr_> =p 20:50 <wrtlprnft> *that's what 20:50 * wrtlprnft wonders what the 38 means 20:50 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6087 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/values/veComparison.cpp: If no comparison can be made, return NAN? =p 20:55 <luke-jr_> I bet NAN casts to 0 anyway =p 20:55 -!- mycotrophic [n=username@81.25.40.61] has joined #armagetron 20:55 <wrtlprnft> nope 20:55 <mycotrophic> 8 check it http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389 20:55 -!- mycotrophic [n=username@81.25.40.61] has left #armagetron [] 20:55 <ghableska> lol 20:56 <luke-jr_> OMG I GOTTA CHECK IT 20:56 <wrtlprnft> i guess freenode will take care of it 20:56 <wrtlprnft> anyone feel like contacting staff? 20:56 <luke-jr_> unless I do first 20:56 <luke-jr_> he has the same IP every time 20:56 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: try std::cerr << (1./0.) << std::endl; 20:57 <luke-jr_> ? 20:57 <wrtlprnft> it'll print nan, so it isn't stored as 0 20:57 <luke-jr_> that'd be INF 20:57 <luke-jr_> no, I mean when it's cast to int 20:57 <wrtlprnft> then it will probably 20:57 <luke-jr_> o well 20:58 <luke-jr_> not sure what else to do with Jon's example 20:58 <wrtlprnft> just use 3-bit ints everywhere and you'll be fine 20:59 <wrtlprnft> I think we should limit our use of numbers to fields :P 20:59 <luke-jr_> ? 20:59 <luke-jr_> 2026/tcp closed scrabble 20:59 <luke-jr_> wtf 21:04 <wrtlprnft> ? 21:09 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has left #Armagetron [] 21:46 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@2002:1891:f657:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:49 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@70.88.244.226] has joined #armagetron 21:52 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 21:53 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@user-0c93tin.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron 21:53 -!- Commn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:28 -!- Commn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 22:28 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:31 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B8650.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:34 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B8CED.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron --- Log closed Thu Aug 17 22:47:28 2006 --- Log opened Thu Aug 17 22:57:37 2006 22:57 -!- wrtlprnft_ [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240] has joined #armagetron 22:57 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 22 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 22:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 11 secs 23:00 -!- wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:01 <spidey> funerals are sad :( 23:01 <Your_mom_arma> yeah. thats life 23:02 <GodTodd> yeah...last one i went to was my stepdad's a couple years ago 23:02 <Vanhayes> yea especially if you know the family really wel, or it is family 23:02 <spidey> is family 23:02 <spidey> and during my other aunt passed out 23:02 <spidey> -_- 23:06 <spidey> ahhhh 23:06 <spidey> i had a major head ache for the past 3 hours 23:06 <spidey> my grandma wouldn't let me take me cigarettes with me -_- 23:08 <Vanhayes> well it is kind of rude to smoke at a funeral 23:08 <Vanhayes> really rude if they did of cancer 23:09 <spidey> stomach cancer 23:09 <Vanhayes> hmm, I went to a funeral of a freinds mom who Ive know all my life who died of stomach cancer too 23:09 <Vanhayes> yesterday 23:11 <spidey> first time i saw my cousin cry :( 23:22 -!- A_Heart_Attack [n=bzhearta@ool-44c748c9.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #armagetron 23:23 -!- A_Heart_Attack [n=bzhearta@ool-44c748c9.dyn.optonline.net] has left #armagetron [] 23:31 -!- arctanx [i=inverse@124-168-233-79.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["(^^)/"] 23:32 * Vanhayes goes to mow 23:37 * spidey finishes resident evil 23:39 -!- Self_Destructo [n=sd@h80.175.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron 23:39 <Self_Destructo> question 23:40 <TiTnAsS> its self_destructo 23:40 <TiTnAsS> how you been? ^^ 23:40 <Self_Destructo> hey TnA 23:40 <Self_Destructo> good, you? 23:40 <TiTnAsS> why dont you log on msn nemore? o.O 23:40 <TiTnAsS> good 23:40 <Self_Destructo> well, kinda don't really have internet access anymore 23:40 <Self_Destructo> but I will soon 23:40 <TiTnAsS> oh, that sucks 23:40 <TiTnAsS> what happened? 23:41 <Self_Destructo> probably in a month or 2 I should be back :D 23:41 <Self_Destructo> ah, well, I just decided to take a break and straighten some things out 23:41 <TiTnAsS> lol, so you canceled your internet subscription? o.O 23:42 <TiTnAsS> or your just choosing not to log on lately 23:42 <TiTnAsS> - -; 23:42 <Self_Destructo> niether 23:42 <Self_Destructo> I moved my computer home 23:42 <Self_Destructo> it was at dad's office 23:42 <Self_Destructo> which is where I m at now 23:44 <Self_Destructo> I come to ask a question about 3.0 23:45 <Self_Destructo> I know that it will be possible to a reason to kicks ard bans that will be displayed... 23:46 <spidey> SD! 23:46 <Self_Destructo> but I was wondering if it was an optional feature, and if it is, then could they make a setting that could make it an option 23:46 <Self_Destructo> because on my server I want it to be required, to lessen the disputes 23:46 <Self_Destructo> hey spidey men 23:47 <Self_Destructo> man* 23:47 <spidey> dude 23:47 <Self_Destructo> ... 23:47 <spidey> your ogame count got deleted :( 23:47 <spidey> account* 23:47 <Self_Destructo> i don't doubt 23:47 <spidey> poor fireball,when he gets a fleet he gets phalanxed and crashed :( 23:48 <Self_Destructo> after a while I just forgot to login... or wasn't interested, or didn't have time to... lol 23:48 <Self_Destructo> darn 23:48 <Self_Destructo> what rank are you guys? 23:48 <spidey> Points 90840 (Rank 1008 of 4282) 23:48 <spidey> :) 23:48 <Self_Destructo> nice 23:49 <spidey> 30k of my points are from fleet 23:49 <TiTnAsS> spidey, lol 23:49 <spidey> the clan is ranked 120 23:49 <TiTnAsS> "i learned something important, dont let tna play for you!" 23:49 <TiTnAsS> rofl 23:50 <spidey> with 15 members 23:50 <spidey> TiTnAsS? 23:50 <TiTnAsS> all i did was take people out of stuff and run em around, had no clue what i was doing, sorry bout fucking up your area 23:50 <TiTnAsS> ? 23:50 <spidey> doesn't matter 23:50 <spidey> me and Lucifer_arma pwned van 23:50 <spidey> :p 23:50 <TiTnAsS> lol 23:50 <spidey> well 23:51 <TiTnAsS> id like to learn that game, but i dont understand it at all ... 23:51 <spidey> i started a small invasion,Lucifer_arma did the rest 23:51 <TiTnAsS> i understand the concept, but i dunno how to do it i mean 23:51 <Vanhayes> bastards 23:51 <spidey> "D 23:51 <spidey> :D 23:51 <Vanhayes> I gave you almost all of you techs 23:51 <spidey> most of them,i had a bit before :p 23:52 <TiTnAsS> lol, then you killed him? 23:52 <TiTnAsS> hah 23:52 <spidey> besides, you where agressing to much 23:52 <Vanhayes> not on you... 23:52 <spidey> so 23:52 <spidey> you was like germany in ww2 23:52 <Vanhayes> and who took all of GodTodd's cities? 23:52 <spidey> and me and Lucifer_arma was the allied forces :D 23:52 <Vanhayes> not me.. 23:52 <TiTnAsS> lol 23:52 <TiTnAsS> luke? 23:52 <TiTnAsS> ^^ 23:53 <spidey> luke almost died 23:53 <spidey> lol 23:53 <spidey> Vanhayes, you already killed todd 23:53 <spidey> i took them for a fall back after i nuked you 23:53 <spidey> it was either me take todds cities, or you 23:53 <Vanhayes> that was a pretty pathetic attack btw 23:53 <spidey> i choose me :) 23:53 <spidey> no 23:53 <Vanhayes> you sent one wave and I took all them back 23:53 <spidey> you don't understand what i was doing 23:53 <spidey> so?? 23:54 <Vanhayes> pussying out 23:54 <spidey> my main goal was to weakin your army 23:54 <spidey> if i take your city 23:54 <spidey> your units for that city go away 23:54 <spidey> you recapture it you still don't get those troops back 23:54 <Vanhayes> most of my units werent on that continent 23:54 <spidey> no,but the cities that produced them was 23:54 <spidey> :) 23:54 <Vanhayes> if they are in aanother city they can make that there home 23:55 <Vanhayes> o well who won that game anyway? 23:55 <Vanhayes> me or luci 23:55 <spidey> barbarians 23:55 <Vanhayes> ? 23:55 <TiTnAsS> lol.. 23:55 <spidey> barbarians took almost everything 23:55 <spidey> lol 23:55 <Vanhayes> I had 500 points luci had 350 when I left... 23:55 <TiTnAsS> barbarians..just randomly attack? or what 23:55 <Vanhayes> yes 23:55 <Vanhayes> lol 23:55 <TiTnAsS> o.O 23:55 <Vanhayes> they can take your cities 23:56 <TiTnAsS> lol 23:56 * Vanhayes wants to try another stratagie this time 23:56 <TiTnAsS> barbarians running cities..hmm 23:56 <Vanhayes> heh 23:56 <TiTnAsS> freeciv SOUNDS like alot of fun 23:56 <TiTnAsS> - -; 23:56 <Vanhayes> my current startegy wins the game by points, but that can get boring 23:57 <Vanhayes> ya I have yet to finish a full game 23:57 <spidey> btw 23:57 <TiTnAsS> i cant even learn the game lol, im to fucking stupid 23:57 <spidey> if your civ gets destroyed 23:57 <spidey> you don't get points 23:57 <spidey> you're out 23:57 <Vanhayes> true 23:57 <spidey> your civ 23:57 <spidey> destroyed 23:57 <spidey> :) 23:57 <Vanhayes> well I gave up and went to bed at 6 am 23:57 <Vanhayes> got up 4 hours later 23:58 <spidey> luci would have taken your city anyways :p 23:58 <Vanhayes> I mean I gave up before that 23:58 <Vanhayes> I gave all my cities to luke 23:58 <spidey> so did i 23:58 <TiTnAsS> do you guys CONSTANTLY paly this game? lol 23:58 <Vanhayes> nah 23:58 <TiTnAsS> every time ive came here, you guys have been playing it 23:59 <TiTnAsS> mostly the same game to.. 23:59 <Vanhayes> I played one game over the last two days 23:59 <Vanhayes> lol 23:59 <TiTnAsS> yeah, cuz they last for 2 days 23:59 <TiTnAsS> lo 23:59 <spidey> lol 23:59 <Vanhayes> that one I think took 8 hours and It still wasnt doneView entire month
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