Log from 2006-07-18:
--- Day changed Tue Jul 18 2006
00:00 <madmax|pt> heh, silence_all 1 should be immediate no?
00:00 <anjori> Lucifer_arma: where can i get the latest version of your script? and with the copy i got from spidey, it wasn't changing my colours for some reason.
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/private/Lucifer/namepicker
00:01 * anjori has never used svn before.
00:02 <anjori> perhaps i should install it, then
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> just apt-get subversion
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I created a tracker item on sourceforge's tracker about the cia thing
00:02 <anjori> ah, that would explain why i couldnt find it, i was looking for "svn"
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> :)
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1523796&group_id=1&atid=200001 <--- we're not the only ones suffering, apparently
00:06 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:06 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:07 <anjori> g'night, wrtlprnft
00:09 <anjori> jeez, it's changed drastically since the last version i saw
00:09 <anjori> does it support randomzing instant chats? and how would i define my own word list, in addition to yours?
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> yes it does
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> look in lucifer.txt to see how to do that :)
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> should be pretty self-explanatory
00:12 <anjori> not to a noob like me :P
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> ok
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> in the header, you put name=value pairs where "name" is a name you made up, and "value" is an armagetron configuration item
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> for each name you put in the header, you need a corresponding section
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> so in lucifer.txt, there's "name=PLAYER_1". I need a [name] section
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> in that section, you put 1 to each line, the available choices
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> spidey has a file somewhere where he starts the instant chats, I haven't committed it yet, sorry
00:13 * Lucifer_arma will do that right now real quick
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> so
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> then, when you've created your file with all the settings you want to randomize, you tell namepicker about it like this:
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> namepicker.py -f path/to/the/file.txt
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> you can do that any number of times for different files, and namepicker will use *all* of them
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> so you also do:
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> namepicker.py -f /path/to/lucifer.txt
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> namepicker.py -f /path/to/colors.txt
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> Then you need to create an autoexec.cfg file in ~/.armagetronad/var that contains a line for each config item you want namepicker to pick--namepicker only randomizes settings that appear in autoexec.cfg!
00:15 <anjori> ah, okay. yeah, i got the syntax of lucifer.txt. just wasn't sure where/how to define extra files i wanted to pick from
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> do a svn update real quick
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get spidey's chats file
00:16 <anjori> okay
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> the way the script works, we need to use the same names for the same instant chats when we make our own lists, and spidey started that for us
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> so if you add new generic chats to chats.txt, please try to send them to me somehow so I can add them here. :)
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> then you should make your own personal instant chats that you'd like to still use and put them in your own file, which you should share with us still :)
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> also, I went ahead and threw in some recording thing
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> do namepicker.py -r and it will start armagetron in recording mode
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> the recording will be automatically gzipped, and stored in ~/.armagetronad . You should be able to upload it from there to the forums without having to worry about much
00:20 <anjori> all right
00:20 <anjori> i
00:21 <anjori> 'll go through it all and will hopefully "get it" once i see what does what
00:21 <anjori> sometimes i wonder how i'm ever going to learn to write this shit myself :-/
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> :)
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> it's just like anything else, start with simple things and then build more complex things out of the simple things you know.
00:22 <Lucifer_arma> do that enough and you start looking like you know what you're doing
00:23 <anjori> but i don't know if i'm that good of an actor ;)
00:31 <anjori> anjori@2[namepicker]$ ./namepicker.py -s
00:31 <anjori> Showing config
00:31 <anjori> Traceback (most recent call last):
00:31 <anjori> File "./namepicker.py", line 532, in ?
00:31 <anjori> main()
00:31 <anjori> File "./namepicker.py", line 396, in main
00:31 <anjori> ShowConfig(configurator)
00:31 <anjori> File "./namepicker.py", line 318, in ShowConfig
00:31 <anjori> for a in configurator.options('main'):
00:31 <anjori> File "/usr/lib/python2.3/ConfigParser.py", line 240, in options
00:31 <anjori> raise NoSectionError(section)
00:31 <anjori> ConfigParser.NoSectionError: No section: 'main'
00:31 <anjori> something tells me that's not what's supposed to happen..
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's not, but it's fine
00:31 <anjori> k
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> did you already add a file?
00:32 <anjori> nah. just looking right now
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ok, then the config file hasn't been created and/or the [main] section in it hasn't been created
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> svn update to get rid of the exception, but it still doesn't do anything useful instead :)
00:36 <anjori> to add a new chats/name/etc file to the pool, is it -a or -f? because you told me -f eariler, but it looks to be -a, unless i'm reading the help wrong.
00:37 * spidey uawns
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> might be -a
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't remember, heh
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> whatever -h tells you :)
00:37 <anjori> ah, okay. just checking.
00:37 <anjori> says -f modifie's a file's config
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's right, -f is to change a config option for a specific file, like if the path changes or something
00:38 <anjori> anjori@2[namepicker]$ ./namepicker.py -a lucifer.txt
00:38 <anjori> Traceback (most recent call last):
00:38 <anjori> File "./namepicker.py", line 533, in ?
00:38 <anjori> main()
00:38 <anjori> File "./namepicker.py", line 403, in main
00:38 <anjori> if checkValue[0]:
00:38 <anjori> TypeError: unsubscriptable object
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> should have still saved the config item
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> svn update for the fix
00:40 * Lucifer_arma notes software fresh out of the oven has all sorts of bugs in it. He needs a cleaner oven!
00:41 <spidey> mmm
00:41 <spidey> i don't get it
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> don't get what?
00:41 <spidey> i didn't have a error like that O_o
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> I made some changes today, mostly to make it easier for madmax to make it work on his mac
00:42 <spidey> heh
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> the script's interaction with it's config file is still far from ideal, but at least it's only being read/written in one place now
00:47 <anjori> i'm gonna have to look into how instant chats work before i try to add any
00:49 <anjori> oh, nevermind. i think i get it.
00:49 <spidey> :p
00:49 <anjori> INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_2 means player 1, second instant chat key, right?
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> yep
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> you might have to rebind your instant chats to match this layout
00:50 <anjori> yeah, i like have my defense keys starting with F7 :P
00:50 <spidey> O_o
00:50 * Lucifer_arma seems to have forgotten how to get the querystring in php
00:50 <anjori> and to split up defense is dead and defense needs help. otherwise people will bitch if you say defense is down when it isnt, etc, etc.
00:51 <spidey> <?php echo $_SERVER['QUERY_STRING']; ?>
00:51 <anjori> and to me, just needing help means i can hold 'em off a bit until you get back. dead, well, hurry the fuck up
00:51 <spidey> that?
00:52 <spidey> ahahah
00:52 * spidey adds that as a chat
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> nah
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> $_GET[]
00:52 <anjori> adds what as a chat?
00:52 <anjori> dead. well, hurry the fuck up? :P
00:52 <spidey> i can hold 'em off a bit until you get back. dead, well, hurry the fuck up
00:54 <spidey> gah
00:54 <spidey> i hate bnc
00:55 <anjori> heh, i'm not even going to say what first came to mind
00:55 <anjori> i think most around here have a higher standard of decency than me :)
00:55 <spidey> Daemon port......: 6697
00:55 <spidey> Maxusers.........: 2
00:55 <spidey> Default conn port: 6667
00:55 <spidey> Pid File.........: ./pid.bnc
00:55 <spidey> Vhost Default....: -SYSTEM DEFAULT-
00:55 <spidey> Exit ./bnc{4} :Unable to bind to socket.
00:55 <spidey> :(
00:57 <Brooky> #night
00:57 <armabot> Good night Brooky!
00:57 <Brooky> bye
00:57 <Vanhayes> cya
00:57 -!- Brooky [n=Brooky@80.73.222.29] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:58 <spidey> UP 72.20.20.28 your.gf.gave.me.the.stinkfinger.org
00:58 <spidey> hahahahaha
00:58 <spidey> i love these vhosts
00:58 <anjori> who is knojf?
00:58 <spidey> so.what.if.im.a.packetkiddie.net
00:58 <spidey> hah!
00:59 <anjori> (edit by Rain)
00:59 <anjori> do you know either of those names?
00:59 <spidey> no?
00:59 <anjori> they added themself to our team on the wiki
01:00 <spidey> oh
01:00 <spidey> oops clan?
01:00 <anjori> i have no idea
01:00 <Vanhayes> rain is opps dont know about knojf
01:01 <anjori> speaking of which, it's monday. you with us, van?
01:01 <anjori> i'm gonna rename the team and get myself off of canada, which i never added myself in the first place
01:02 <spidey> i love nano
01:05 <mkzelda> i know rain and knojf
01:06 <anjori> um, the name now says "sid-zong".
01:06 <mkzelda> oops clan members are decent
01:06 <mkzelda> mostly dont start too much trouble either
01:06 <Vanhayes> hmmI think rain is both sid-zong and konjf
01:06 <mkzelda> tho 00n00b picked a fight with me when i was under another name
01:07 <anjori> i dont think i've ever even heard of that clan
01:07 <mkzelda> they have degree symbols in front of their name
01:07 <mkzelda> two of them
01:07 <mkzelda> 00n00b, 00rain, etc
01:07 <spidey> mkzelda!
01:07 <mkzelda> i dont think rain is knojf cause i played knojf today
01:08 <mkzelda> and he was decent but made mistakes rain doesnt usually make
01:08 <mkzelda> spidey!
01:08 <spidey> you use bnc don't you?
01:08 <mkzelda> yes and no
01:08 <spidey> O_o
01:08 <mkzelda> currently not using it, using psybnc
01:09 <spidey> i can't seem to get this configured
01:09 <spidey> :(
01:09 <mkzelda> psybnc has a detachable shell funtionality, encryption, private ircd, etc built in
01:09 <mkzelda> hard as crap to find though b/c its made by / used for sceners
01:10 <mkzelda> and pretty much no documentation
01:10 <spidey> 2) Install psyBNC-2.3.2-4
01:10 <spidey> already got it
01:10 <mkzelda> good
01:10 <spidey> just can't get it configured
01:10 <mkzelda> whats goin wrong?
01:11 <spidey> also got bnc-2.8.6 and ezbounce-1.04a
01:11 <mkzelda> yea ive used both of those too, but its been a while
01:11 <spidey> i get a socket error
01:11 <mkzelda> cant bind to socket?
01:12 <spidey> ya
01:12 <mkzelda> on startup or when you try to connect to server?
01:12 <spidey> startup
01:12 <mkzelda> using port 31337?
01:12 <spidey> haha
01:12 <spidey> no.6697
01:12 <mkzelda> thats default
01:12 <spidey> no,it asks for a listening port
01:13 <mkzelda> yea, and 31337 is what it suggests as default
01:13 <mkzelda> some ircds even open that port
01:13 <mkzelda> have you tried another port?
01:14 <anjori> ugh. why is my addition not being indented on the talk page?
01:14 <mkzelda> is this on your webhost/game server?
01:14 <anjori> i copied the formatting of everyone else's comments
01:14 <spidey> Cannot create listening port .. aborting
01:14 <spidey> and no,it's on another shell
01:14 <spidey> i could probably do it on my webserver
01:14 <spidey> lol
01:14 <mkzelda> heavily used?
01:14 <spidey> mmm
01:15 <mkzelda> im saying, port might be in use, you might permissions to only a certain range, or the server has sockets all tied up
01:15 <spidey> wow
01:15 <spidey> O_o
01:15 <mkzelda> netstat -a
01:15 <spidey> ya
01:15 <spidey> just did it
01:15 <spidey> lol
01:15 <mkzelda> grep "6697"
01:16 <spidey> heh
01:16 <spidey> that's a huge list
01:16 <mkzelda> or if the port is registered, you'll have to grep whatever they've tagged it
01:16 <mkzelda> its not an IANA registered #
01:17 <mkzelda> so it should show up on grep if its used, unless they've physically tagged that port
01:17 <mkzelda> on that server
01:17 <spidey> i'ma try a insanely high number
01:18 <spidey> Listening on: 0.0.0.0 port 65000
01:18 <spidey> Listening on: * port 65000
01:18 <spidey> psyBNC2.3.2-4-cBtITLdDMSNpE started (PID 86857)
01:18 <spidey> ahah
01:18 <spidey> port 65000
01:18 <anjori> Vanhayes: add yourself to the team :P
01:19 <Vanhayes> did, sorta
01:19 <spidey> -psyBNC> Welcome spidey !
01:19 <spidey> <-psyBNC> You are the first to connect to this new proxy server.
01:19 <spidey> <-psyBNC> You are the proxy-admin. Use ADDSERVER to add a server so the bouncer may connect
01:19 <spidey> woot
01:19 <anjori> ah, didnt see that when i last refreshed
01:19 <anjori> okay
01:19 <anjori> i also added a comment to the talk page
01:21 <spidey> oops
01:21 <spidey> [spidey@venture ~/]$ sudo su - root
01:21 <spidey> Password:
01:21 <spidey> spidey is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
01:21 <spidey> meh
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01:25 <_spidey> mm
01:25 <mkzelda> spidey
01:25 <mkzelda> ill let u know about 2 probs you'll prolly get w/ psybnc
01:25 <mkzelda> one, did u move the salt.h file?
01:27 <mkzelda> if you ever edit any more options you have to move that back or retype your passwords
01:27 <madmax|pt> ok, who killed bugfarm fortress?f
01:27 <mkzelda> b/c they will show up encrypted
01:27 <madmax|pt> tell me nooow
01:27 <madmax|pt> lol
01:27 <Vanhayes> heh
01:27 <Vanhayes> not me
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01:27 <mkzelda> something tells me he didnt read any of that
01:27 <madmax|pt> what do you think of Zop's conspiracy theory van?
01:27 <Vanhayes> um bugfarm came back
01:28 <Vanhayes> that was very weird
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01:28 <Vanhayes> im not quite sure what his theory is madmax|pt
01:28 <spidey_> mm
01:28 <spidey_> my vhost didn't change
01:28 <spidey_> O_o
01:29 <madmax|pt> heh, he was saying that "good players" knew how to provoke lag and were using it
01:29 <Vanhayes> I think he thought that using the gap caused lagg
01:29 <madmax|pt> no
01:29 <Vanhayes> which isnt right
01:30 <Vanhayes> what was the tail end bug btw?
01:30 <Vanhayes> i never got an answer
01:30 <madmax|pt> dunno
01:31 <madmax|pt> what i know is that yesterday i was using the "tail attack" forward, i mean, a larger one
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01:31 <madmax|pt> and it "stopped" then boom the defender goes
01:31 <madmax|pt> more like a big tail protection
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01:32 <spidey> grrr
01:32 <spidey> BVHOST won't change the vhost :(
01:32 <madmax|pt> r u going to ping timeout van?
01:32 <madmax|pt> lol
01:33 <mkzelda> spidey: once you change it you have to reconnect
01:33 <spidey> ?
01:33 <spidey> i did
01:33 <spidey> O_o
01:33 <mkzelda> oh
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01:34 <Vanhayes> lol
01:34 <madmax|pt> lol
01:34 <spidey> 'er
01:34 <spidey> woo
01:34 <Vanhayes> was playing
01:34 <spidey> i didn't get a pm from psybnc this time
01:35 <spidey_> ADDSERV
01:35 <spidey_> mm
01:35 <spidey> hey mkzelda
01:35 <mkzelda> spidey: the multiple server functionality exposes a lot of bugs in clients
01:35 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt: the tail attack causes what some people think is lagg, but now that it has changed it might actually screw shit up
01:35 <mkzelda> if u addnetwork
01:36 <spidey> it connects straight to freenode
01:36 <spidey> O_o
01:36 <mkzelda> yea, do u use any other networks?
01:36 <madmax|pt> doesnt it depend on the client too?
01:36 <spidey> ya
01:36 <spidey> a few
01:36 <mkzelda> you can /addnetwork blah
01:36 <mkzelda> and then /addserver blah~efnet.org
01:37 <Vanhayes> what u see depends on the client what actually happens is always the same
01:37 <Vanhayes> as far as I know anyway
01:37 <spidey_> ok
01:37 <spidey_> got it
01:37 <spidey_> now how i connect to it O_o
01:37 <mkzelda> Vanhayes, about 99% of the time
01:37 <Vanhayes> ya, but that 1% can be a bitch
01:37 <mkzelda> i think there are the rare occurrences where the client believes you crashed but the server wouldnt have
01:38 <mkzelda> i guess that'd still be what you said
01:38 <Vanhayes> ya, lately ive been seeing that I have lots of rubber left but i die anyway
01:38 <mkzelda> yea thats common all over lately
01:38 <mkzelda> mbc is real bad about that
01:38 <mkzelda> 50 rubber, you'll die after you use 2
01:38 <mkzelda> they just keep adding more rubber
01:39 <mkzelda> as if that will fix it
01:39 <Vanhayes> heh
01:40 <Vanhayes> it wouldnt bother me so much but when I die it even shows I have tons of rubber left
01:40 <spidey_> m
01:40 <spidey_> hey mkzelda
01:41 <spidey_> how i disconnect from a server
01:41 <mkzelda> hey spidey
01:41 <mkzelda> /bquit
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01:42 <spidey> mmm
01:42 <spidey> now how do i connect to a server O_o
01:42 <spidey> better,how do i display the help list
01:42 <spidey> it won't come back :(
01:42 <spidey> nvm,got it ;D
01:43 <mkzelda> /bhelp is your friend
01:43 -!- spidey_ [i=spidey@so.what.if.im.a.packetkiddie.net] has joined #armagetron
01:43 <mkzelda> there you go
01:43 <spidey_> weee
01:43 <mkzelda> vhost worked
01:43 <spidey> i like these vhosts
01:45 <mkzelda> spidey, I've not been able to successfully join efnet w/ psybnc anymore
01:45 <mkzelda> so if u use efnet, be careful b4 u get the ip klined
01:45 <mkzelda> i've done it a couple times
01:45 <mkzelda> heh
01:46 <mkzelda> spidey, you can join internal channels
01:46 <mkzelda> you can make channels on your psybnc that other users on your psybnc can join
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01:47 -!- spidey_ is now known as spidey
01:47 <spidey> :D
01:48 <spidey> now even if i disconnect this stays in the room?
01:48 <mkzelda> yes, if you set it up right
01:48 <spidey> lets try
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01:48 <mkzelda> haha
01:49 <mkzelda> im in here on several computers
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01:49 <spidey> mm
01:49 <spidey> did my name leave?
01:49 <mkzelda> yes
01:49 <spidey> :/
01:49 <mkzelda> you parted tho
01:49 <mkzelda> i didnt see if you left the server altogether
01:49 <mkzelda> didnt think to check
01:49 <spidey> mmm
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01:51 <mkzelda> type /leavequit 0
01:51 <spidey> k
01:51 <spidey> now lets try
01:51 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-199-100.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
01:52 <spidey> did i leave ?
01:52 <mkzelda> you stayed
01:52 <spidey> ;D
01:52 <spidey> mm
01:53 <spidey> i still got 2 more bg processes for this shell
01:53 <spidey> oh
01:53 <spidey> you want a list of vhosts you can use?
01:54 -!- _mkzelda [i=spidey@your.gf.gave.me.the.stinkfinger.org] has joined #armagetron
01:54 <_mkzelda> need to change ident...
01:54 <spidey> heh
01:54 <_mkzelda> the glory of this is it doesnt charge bg processes other than the initial one
01:55 <spidey> mm
01:56 <mkzelda> i guess i have to have your ident dont it
01:56 <spidey> whoa
01:57 <mkzelda> you know we can link our psybncs
01:57 <mkzelda> like ircds link
01:57 -!- _madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-199-100.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
01:57 <spidey> cool
01:57 <spidey> wtf
01:57 <spidey> O_o
01:57 <spidey> <newnet~mkzelda> you know we can link our psybncs
01:57 <spidey> <newnet~mkzelda> like ircds link
01:57 <spidey> * newnet~_madmax|pt (n=madmax@bl4-199-100.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #newnet~#armagetron
01:57 <spidey> <spidey> cool
01:57 <spidey> <spidey> wtf
01:57 <spidey> <spidey> O_o
01:57 <spidey> am i still in @armagetron?
01:58 <madmax|pt> lol
01:58 * spidey is confused O_o
01:58 <mkzelda> yea
01:58 <spidey> You have been kicked from #armagetron by irc.psychoid.net (Switching Network)
01:58 <spidey> lol
01:58 <mkzelda> you have a primary server that doesnt have the BLAH~ prefix
01:59 <mkzelda> all the rest have that prefix
01:59 <mkzelda> thats what i was saying sometimes exposes bugs in clients
01:59 <spidey> ok,how i get back on freenode ;D
02:00 <mkzelda> you are
02:00 <spidey> O_o
02:00 <mkzelda> you're talking to me in armagetron on freenode
02:00 <spidey> well,ya
02:00 <spidey> how i get the userlist
02:00 <spidey> heh
02:00 <spidey> i only see max
02:00 <spidey> O_o
02:00 <mkzelda> what client?
02:00 <spidey> xchat
02:01 <mkzelda> /names #armagetron
02:01 <mkzelda> or
02:01 <mkzelda> /names #newnet~#armagetron
02:01 <spidey> ah
02:01 <mkzelda> thats one of the bugs that comes w/ using the ~ list
02:01 <spidey> can i remove the newnet~
02:01 <mkzelda> i dont use anything other than one server on a psybnc for that reason
02:01 <mkzelda> yes, /delnetwork newnet
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02:01 <mkzelda> and /addserver irc.freenode.net
02:01 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-199-100.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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02:06 <spidey> mm
02:06 <spidey> i think i broke it
02:06 <mkzelda> heh
02:06 <spidey> ;D
02:06 <mkzelda> im still on
02:06 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 00:07:06 :User spidey () trying irc.freenode.org port 6667 ().
02:06 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 00:07:06 :User spidey got disconnected from server.
02:07 <mkzelda> do a /listservers
02:07 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Server #1: irc.freenode.org port 6667
02:07 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Server #2: irc.freenode.org port 6667
02:07 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Server #3: irc.freenode.org port 6667
02:07 <spidey> <-psyBNC> End of Servers
02:07 <mkzelda> hah, u can delete 2 of those
02:07 <mkzelda> not that it matters but
02:08 <spidey> mmm
02:08 -!- _mkzelda [i=spidey@your.gf.gave.me.the.stinkfinger.org] has quit [Client Quit]
02:08 <spidey> maybe they k-lined it?
02:08 <mkzelda> nope
02:08 <mkzelda> im on
02:08 <mkzelda> just quit
02:08 <mkzelda> so u could get on
02:09 <mkzelda> in case thats the prob
02:09 <spidey> still disconnects me
02:09 <spidey> it's not i do multiple connects from my home connection
02:09 <mkzelda> well do a /bquit
02:09 <mkzelda> just till u figure out whats wrong
02:09 <mkzelda> irc.freenode.net instead?
02:10 <mkzelda> does .org/.net matter?
02:10 <spidey> dunno
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02:12 <_spidey> haha
02:12 <_spidey> they klined that vhost
02:12 <mkzelda> hehe
02:12 <_spidey> :(
02:12 <mkzelda> oh you prolly had both your regular net and newnet connecting to it
02:12 <spidey> mmm
02:12 <mkzelda> you'll be fine in 72hrs or so
02:12 <spidey> k
02:12 <mkzelda> did you /delnetwork?
02:13 <spidey> ya
02:13 <mkzelda> yea, as i suggested before, i dont recommend using the multiple network feature
02:13 <mkzelda> you have to /names #net~#channel all the time
02:13 <spidey> mm
02:14 <spidey> maybe i'll make a user for each network
02:14 <spidey> O_o
02:14 <mkzelda> you could do that
02:14 <spidey> you got a list of possible vhosts?
02:14 <mkzelda> i used to write a lot of mirc scripts, that #net~#channel crap got real annoying
02:14 <mkzelda> nope, i could use it
02:15 <mkzelda> you know you can get your bnc to dl dccs for you
02:15 <mkzelda> and then u can retrieve them later
02:15 <spidey> ya,but i only got 90mb space
02:15 <spidey> meh
02:15 <mkzelda> no xdcc's for you :D
02:15 <spidey> i could throw this on my webserver
02:15 <spidey> O_o
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02:17 <spidey> xUP 72.20.20.126 need.money.for.lun.c
02:17 <spidey> lol
02:18 <mkzelda> btw there is a 2.3.2-7
02:19 <mkzelda> brb, bitches wanna go out
02:19 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/vhosts
02:23 <mkzelda> does UP mean working or does it mean IN USE?
02:24 <spidey> working
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02:26 <spidey> Bulk (4792)
02:26 <spidey> Inbox (243)
02:26 <spidey> omfg
02:27 <spidey> 5k emails
02:27 * spidey sighs
02:27 <_mkzelda> its ignoring my username
02:27 <_mkzelda> oh well
02:27 <spidey> mm
02:27 <spidey> hold on
02:28 <spidey> mm
02:28 -!- _mkzelda [i=spidey@my.girl.has.pee.ms] has quit [Client Quit]
02:28 <spidey> i'ma delete and try to add you with a different ident
02:29 <spidey> disconnect
02:29 <spidey> :p
02:30 <mkzelda> this server is located where?
02:30 <spidey> not sure O_o
02:30 <mkzelda> US?
02:30 <spidey> psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 00:30:49 :connect from cpe-071-070-204-248.nc.res.rr.com
02:30 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 00:30:49 :Failed Authentification for mkzelda from host cpe-071-070-204-248.nc.res.rr.com
02:30 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 00:30:49 :Lost Connection from cpe-071-070-204-248.nc.res.rr.com (mkzelda)
02:30 <spidey> yes
02:30 <spidey> disconnect so i can readd it :p
02:31 <mkzelda> yea i did
02:31 <spidey> client's still trying to reconnect O_o
02:31 <mkzelda> no, its closed
02:32 <spidey> wouldn't let me readd mkzelda
02:32 <spidey> :/
02:33 <mkzelda> k
02:33 <mkzelda> the salt.h file still in the psybnc dir?
02:33 <spidey> mm
02:33 <spidey> there's not a solat.h
02:34 <spidey> change your name to dook
02:34 <spidey> on the psybnc
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02:34 <spidey> :)
02:36 <spidey> mm
02:38 -!- spidey is now known as Abyss
02:38 <Abyss> oops
02:38 <Abyss> O_o
02:38 -!- Abyss is now known as spidey
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02:40 <spidey> ok
02:40 <spidey> O_o
02:43 <luke-jr_> spidey: wtf? fraud?
02:43 <spidey> ya
02:43 <spidey> they said i was commiting fruad
02:43 <luke-jr_> how?
02:44 <spidey> cause i used my real name
02:44 <luke-jr_> wtf?
02:44 <spidey> and on the paypal account it has my grandmas
02:44 <luke-jr_> oh
02:44 <luke-jr_> dunno
02:44 <spidey> and they said it was suspicious when i female signs up for a shell
02:44 <spidey> haha
02:44 <luke-jr_> I know with credit cards, it's fraud to use someone else's card even with permission
02:45 <spidey> mm
02:45 <mkzelda> i got stranded with no money, b/c the bank's theft protection deactivated my card w/o telling me
02:45 <spidey> heh
02:45 <mkzelda> b/c i bought something it considered questionable
02:45 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: call and complain =p
02:45 <mkzelda> its been a while
02:45 <luke-jr_> spidey: PM
02:47 <spidey> it won't work dook
02:47 <spidey> i'll have to change my client ident for each connection
02:48 <luke-jr_> wtf?
02:50 <mkzelda> ident is going to be your username on the shell
02:51 <mkzelda> unless they run a special ident server where it will randomize or other features
02:55 <spidey> i mean
02:55 <spidey> the client side ident
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03:19 <spidey> i like this thing
03:20 <luke-jr_> ...
03:20 <spidey> (i=spidey@BABY.YOU.WANT.SOME.SEX0R.org)
03:20 <luke-jr_> ....
03:20 <spidey> it's bnc
03:20 <luke-jr_> ident can change the domain?
03:20 <spidey> vhosts pwn ;x
03:20 <luke-jr_> wtf
03:20 <spidey> no
03:20 <spidey> it can't
03:21 <spidey> it's vhosts from the shell i got
03:21 <luke-jr_> why'd u get a shell?
03:21 <spidey> cause
03:21 <spidey> :p
03:25 <luke-jr_> so should I provide just 0.2.8 and 0.3?
03:25 <spidey> mm
03:25 <spidey> ya
03:25 <luke-jr_> maybe put older versions on request or something
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> #g 3.73/72
03:26 <armabot> 3.73 / 72 = 0.0518055556
03:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: BTW, don't do anything on lightfoot other than what I allow/say is ok, k? =p
03:26 <mkzelda> arma servers are fairly low on cpu usage right?
03:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: there are terms I need to work within
03:27 <mkzelda> i know when i ran octafourtress on my 800mhz it never went above 10% cpu
03:27 * spidey rm -tf /
03:27 <luke-jr_> tf?
03:27 <spidey> f!
03:27 <luke-jr_> t?
03:27 <Vanhayes> w
03:28 <mkzelda> hack the planet!
03:28 <mkzelda> nuke the whales
03:28 <spidey> rm -fr /
03:28 <luke-jr_> anyone want to buy AA server hosting? =p
03:28 <spidey> my bad
03:28 <spidey> ;d
03:28 <luke-jr_> luke-jr@tsurukikun xchatlogs $ rm -rf /
03:28 <luke-jr_> rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `/'
03:28 <luke-jr_> rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe
03:28 <spidey> lol
03:29 <spidey> ok
03:29 <spidey> so
03:29 <spidey> rm -ifr /
03:29 <luke-jr_> -i makes it prompt =p
03:29 <spidey> O_o
03:29 <luke-jr_> there is no abbreviation for --no-preserve-root
03:30 <spidey> rm -d /
03:30 <spidey> ;p
03:30 <mkzelda> -dsf = -double-secret-force
03:30 <spidey> brb
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03:32 <mkzelda> too bad you cant buy a voodoo globe so that you could make the earth spin real fast and freak everybody out
03:37 <mkzelda> my dogs are funny, certain boundaries like doors stop them
03:37 <mkzelda> i dont have to lock their crate
03:37 <mkzelda> just shut the door
03:37 <mkzelda> they could push it open but they wont
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03:38 <spidey> yup
03:38 <spidey> i broke it ;D
03:39 <spidey> mkzelda,
03:40 <mkzelda> spidey,
03:40 <spidey> how i kill the psybnc process?
03:40 <spidey> it changed my password without me telling it to :(
03:41 <mkzelda> i warned you about that
03:41 <mkzelda> its the salt.h file
03:41 <spidey> where's that at?
03:41 <mkzelda> in your shell
03:41 <mkzelda> type ps x
03:41 <mkzelda> look for your ./psybnc
03:41 <mkzelda> kill that PID
03:42 <spidey> still there
03:42 <spidey> O_o
03:42 <mkzelda> kill -9 PID#
03:42 <mkzelda> it reHUP's on kill
03:42 <luke-jr_> ?
03:42 <luke-jr_> on kill -9?
03:42 <mkzelda> no
03:42 <spidey> ok there it goes
03:42 <spidey> now to generate a new hash
03:43 <spidey> ohh
03:43 <mkzelda> spidey, every time u use the 'gui' to edit something
03:43 <spidey> this one doesn't have that
03:43 <mkzelda> after its running
03:43 <spidey> i use nano
03:43 <mkzelda> it will screw your password
03:43 <mkzelda> for almost everything u can edit it w/in the running shell
03:43 <mkzelda> so try to convert to that, avoid the other method
03:43 <mkzelda> or you'll deal w/ this password issue a lot
03:44 <mkzelda> thats the #1 bug i deal w/, not sure of the exact technique
03:44 <mkzelda> the other bug is that it will sometimes stop accepting connections properly, and it requires a restart
03:44 <mkzelda> your client can buffer overload or something
03:44 <mkzelda> i mean, the client can cause the psybnc to
03:44 <mkzelda> only on connect it seems
03:45 <spidey> ok
03:45 <mkzelda> i had a client that would login/ nickserv login/ join a ~20 channels and perform some bot logins etc
03:45 <spidey> should i install bnc
03:45 <spidey> or psybnc
03:45 <mkzelda> i had to add some delays in
03:45 <mkzelda> i still prefer psybnc, knowing its quirks
03:45 <mkzelda> bnc is a lot simpler/easier but lacking some features
03:45 <spidey> what about exbounce
03:46 <spidey> what about ezbounce
03:46 <mkzelda> i havent used ezbounce or bnc in a long time, ezbounce is fairly popular
03:46 <mkzelda> lotsa docs
03:46 <mkzelda> ill just say that im running psybnc atm
03:46 <mkzelda> i prefer it
03:46 <mkzelda> there is an extra layer of interactivity
03:48 <mkzelda> i like the idea that i can add you as an admin and you can login and maintain it for me w/o shell ax
03:48 <mkzelda> i like that it keeps you online when you're off
03:48 <mkzelda> saves your messages
03:48 <mkzelda> catches dccs
03:48 <mkzelda> i like the private network
03:49 <mkzelda> i pretty much like everything it does, and i've tracked those 2 'bugs' down to a point that they're avoidable and i've come to know them
03:52 <spidey> Tue Jul 18 01:52:17 :User Abyss declared User mkzelda to admin
03:52 <spidey> so if i fuckup you can change my password ;D
03:52 <mkzelda> it might fuck up my pass too
03:52 <mkzelda> but thats okay anyways
03:52 <mkzelda> i mean, the admin status
03:52 <spidey> but you'll still be connected :p
03:52 <mkzelda> oh true
03:58 <spidey> can't connect to 2600.net either
03:58 <spidey> :/
03:59 <spidey> mmm
03:59 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 01:59:42 :User spidey () trying irc.freenode.org port 6667 (retarted.littleidiot.de).
03:59 <spidey> <-psyBNC> Tue Jul 18 01:59:52 :User spidey got disconnected from server.
03:59 <spidey> ok,what'd i break
03:59 <spidey> O_o
04:00 <spidey> ahhhh
04:00 <spidey> 2of them
04:00 <spidey> bah
04:01 <luke-jr_> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/
04:02 <spidey> lmao,wtf
04:02 <mkzelda> haha failed auth for you spidey
04:02 <spidey> you saw that!?!?!
04:03 <spidey> sdkfhskjdhkjhg
04:03 <mkzelda> yea
04:03 <spidey> reset my pass,lol
04:03 <mkzelda> k
04:03 <spidey> i must have been connected to the process i terminated
04:03 <spidey> lol
04:03 <mkzelda> its changeme
04:04 <spidey> pm it
04:04 <mkzelda> haha
04:04 <mkzelda> too late
04:04 <spidey> ?
04:04 <mkzelda> its changeme
04:04 <spidey> huh? O_o
04:04 <mkzelda> not that anyone knows the server/port/username has your hostname
04:04 <spidey> oh
04:04 <mkzelda> your password is now changeme
04:04 <mkzelda> i figure you'll do that
04:04 <mkzelda> haha
04:04 <spidey> er
04:04 <mkzelda> you still not working?
04:05 <spidey> :(
04:05 <spidey> uadmin spidey
04:05 <spidey> deluser spidey
04:05 <mkzelda> user spidey not found
04:05 <mkzelda> hah
04:06 <spidey> ahah
04:06 <spidey> try
04:06 <spidey> Abyss
04:06 <spidey> password Abyss:changem
04:06 <mkzelda> nope
04:06 <spidey> ahah
04:06 <mkzelda> its spidey anyways
04:06 <spidey> add me ;>
04:06 <mkzelda> i did a bwho b4
04:07 <anjori> spidey: can i get your name list?
04:07 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/spidey.txt
04:07 <anjori> i suck at coming up with names for anything, but i'm trying. maybe that'll give me some ideas
04:07 <anjori> thanks.
04:07 <spidey> np
04:08 <luke-jr_> Is Svn broken?
04:08 <mkzelda> howso?
04:09 <mkzelda> i just tried it, it says "At revision 5746"
04:09 <spidey> mkzelda, did you add me? lol
04:09 <mkzelda> yes
04:09 <mkzelda> i also pmd you the pass
04:09 <spidey> haha
04:09 <mkzelda> failed auth still?
04:09 <mkzelda> there u go
04:09 <spidey> got it
04:09 * luke-jr_ stabs Svn
04:10 <spidey> put a space on accifent
04:10 <luke-jr_> the jerks required me to change my password :(
04:10 <mkzelda> just change it back to what u want
04:10 <mkzelda> change it 5 times and then change it back
04:10 <mkzelda> if it has 'remember 5 passwords'
04:10 <spidey> ?O_o
04:11 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: my old password is no longer allowed
04:11 <mkzelda> b/c?
04:11 <mkzelda> strength requirements?
04:11 <luke-jr_> which made it all the more secure, since nobody would try to guess it
04:11 <luke-jr_> b/c it's "test"
04:11 <mkzelda> haha
04:12 <luke-jr_> passwords now must be 6 characters
04:12 <mkzelda> testies?
04:12 <luke-jr_> spidey: you have armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8 installed now
04:12 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: =p
04:12 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: no, testflyaway
04:12 <luke-jr_> erm
04:12 * luke-jr_ changes O.o
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04:13 <luke-jr_> ...
04:14 <luke-jr_> anyhow
04:14 <luke-jr_> I have an AA admin interface to write
04:15 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: wanna buy AA server hosting? =p
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04:16 <mkzelda> how much/for what?
04:16 <Abyss> bah
04:16 -!- Abyss is now known as spidey
04:16 <spidey> finally!
04:17 <luke-jr_> 58-154 *in game* pings
04:17 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: prices at http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/
04:18 <luke-jr_> wtf is .pk
04:18 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: I don't have estimates for site hosting pricing yet
04:18 <mkzelda> pakistan
04:19 <luke-jr_> lol
04:19 <[NP]Tangent> heh
04:19 <[NP]Tangent> I could host an AA server
04:19 <[NP]Tangent> I might consider doing so, in fact
04:19 <[NP]Tangent> I just need to figure my rubber business out
04:20 <luke-jr_> [NP]Tangent: I'm offering low latency/ping hosting :)
04:20 <luke-jr_> on a dedicated server
04:20 <luke-jr_> well, dedicated in the sense that it's purpose is to host AA servers
04:20 <[NP]Tangent> I have a server in Aus I can set it up on
04:20 <[NP]Tangent> I run a bzflag server on it, as well
04:21 <luke-jr_> that'd be *high* ping =p
04:21 <[NP]Tangent> I'll ping you
04:21 <[NP]Tangent> :P
04:21 <spidey> you play bzflag!?
04:21 <spidey> teach me!!! ;D
04:21 <[NP]Tangent> yes I play bzflag
04:21 <[NP]Tangent> you probably shouldn't learn from me though
04:21 <[NP]Tangent> I suck at killing
04:22 <[NP]Tangent> my only strength is avoiding bullets while capping another team's flag
04:22 <spidey> i get killed by bots i think that they're bots
04:22 <mkzelda> yea im terrible at bzflag
04:22 <spidey> they go back and forth then shoot me
04:22 <spidey> :<
04:22 <[NP]Tangent> in a pure game, no superflags, just team flags to capture... I am the best
04:22 <spidey> you gotta server?
04:22 <spidey> wanna play? :D
04:22 <[NP]Tangent> yeah
04:22 <[NP]Tangent> one sec
04:22 <spidey> server?
04:22 <[NP]Tangent> gotta run to the restroom, my stomach's bothering me
04:22 <spidey> i gotta fix some things
04:22 <spidey> i only see 2/3 of the screen
04:22 <spidey> lol
04:22 <[NP]Tangent> nullbzflag.gotdns.com port 5154
04:23 <[NP]Tangent> brb
04:28 <[NP]Tangent> alright
04:28 <[NP]Tangent> I'm getting on now
04:28 <[NP]Tangent> :>
04:28 <spidey> doesn't connect
04:29 <[NP]Tangent> try again
04:29 <[NP]Tangent> it works
04:44 * anjori was horrible at bzflag the last time he tried it
04:46 <mkzelda> i had a busted client that couldnt shoot anyone
04:47 <mkzelda> ppl would stop moving so i could try to hit them
04:49 <spidey> what;s time expired mean?
04:49 <spidey> tangent?
04:59 <[NP]Tangent> spidey, time expired means the time limit was reached
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> what information should a player put into a form that he's uploading a recording to?
05:03 <anjori> depends what purpose the recording servers, i suppose
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05:04 <anjori> *serves
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> ingame recording, this is for armagetron's recordings
05:04 <anjori> well, yes, i gathered that much :)
05:04 <anjori> but bug reports, demos, ...
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, the page is supposed to just be a repository where people can upload recordings anonymously and then give a link
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05:05 <Lucifer_arma> so they don't have to register on the forums to give us a recording, and so they can upload large recordings.
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'm inclined to just make it a generic repository with player name and comments and the file and that's it
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> if anybody wants more than that, they can get the code from svn and extend it :)
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something terribly important in the process is all
05:07 <anjori> yeah, i can't think of much that would really be needed. maybe just date, game type/server, description
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05:14 <spidey> O_o it connected to the wrong server
05:15 <anjori> granted, i know nothing of bnc, but couldnt you just install it on your own box and save the money?
05:15 <spidey> ...
05:16 <anjori> didn't you pay for a shell to use it?
05:16 <spidey> i payed for a shell,that came with bnc,but not for bnc
05:16 <anjori> i see.
05:17 <spidey> besides, only $5
05:17 <spidey> well
05:17 <spidey> $2 for the first month O_o
05:17 <anjori> i've got two boxes with shell access. doesn't cost me anything :)
05:17 <spidey> do you got 2 boxes on 100mbit connections??
05:17 <spidey> didn't think so :)
05:17 <anjori> heh. i suppose not.
05:18 <spidey> i wanna find someone doing shell hosting that has 1gbit connections
05:26 <spidey> [spidey@venture ~/]$ uptime
05:26 <spidey> 3:26AM up 573 days, 3:17, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04
05:26 <spidey> O_o
05:28 <Vanhayes> what is that uptime for?
05:28 <spidey> the shellserver
05:28 <Vanhayes> thats the time there?
05:28 <spidey> 11:30
05:29 <Vanhayes> why does it say 3:26?
05:29 <spidey> maybe because it's on the west coast?
05:29 <anjori> west coast? it's aint 3:26 here
05:29 <Vanhayes> that would set it back not ahead
05:29 <anjori> that, too
05:30 <Vanhayes> 3:26 am is in europe
05:30 <Vanhayes> GMT i guess
05:30 <spidey> ok,it's in europe then :)
05:30 <Vanhayes> maybe its just using GMT time
06:00 <spidey> mmm
06:01 * spidey is trying to figure out how to get a file from his windows box to this one
06:10 <[NP]Tangent> floppy disk
06:10 <[NP]Tangent> or in your case
06:10 <[NP]Tangent> floppy dick
06:10 <[NP]Tangent> :D
06:15 <spidey> you know all about dicks don't you
06:16 <spidey> er
06:16 <anjori> dicks are for my friends, when they come to my house
06:17 <spidey> and [NP]Tangent is your friend
06:17 <anjori> nah, it's an MSI song :P
06:18 <[NP]Tangent> MSI ftw
06:18 <Vanhayes> #wtf is MSI
06:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: MSI: nothing appropriate
06:18 <Vanhayes> meh woth a try
06:18 <Vanhayes> worth*
06:18 <anjori> Mindless Self Indulgence
06:19 <spidey> root@fbi.gov[~]# /etc/init.d/ssh start
06:19 <spidey> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server... [fail]
06:19 <anjori> their genre has been described as something along the lines of "industrial jungle pussy punk"
06:20 * spidey hate it
06:20 <spidey> >.>
06:20 <spidey> argh!
06:20 <spidey> anjori
06:20 <anjori> yessir?
06:20 <spidey> does mepis have more firewalls besides gaurd dog?
06:21 <anjori> gui-based? not by default
06:21 <anjori> but you can install firestarter
06:21 <spidey> i don't want a firewall
06:21 <spidey> fuckin lkdl;kdhfl;kshf
06:21 <anjori> then why did you enable it? :P
06:21 <spidey> i didn't
06:21 <spidey> it was enabled by default
06:22 <anjori> you have the option on install. i never enabled mine
06:22 <spidey> something is blocking ssh from lan
06:24 <spidey> mmm
06:24 * spidey wonders how to send a file via ssh
06:24 <spidey> O-o
06:24 <mkzelda> sftp
06:24 <mkzelda> scp
06:24 <nemostultae> #man scp
06:24 <armabot> nemostultae: scp -- secure copy (remote file copy program)
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06:24 <spidey> that bug is annoying as hell
06:25 <anjori> /etc/init.d/guarddog stop ?
06:25 <anjori> if that's causing the problem
06:26 <spidey> i got that
06:26 * mkzelda is wigged out by the cop that just sat in front of his house a long time
06:26 <mkzelda> he sped off when i went to go ask him what he was doing
06:26 <spidey> now i have to figure out how to use putty to upload
06:26 <spidey> i wanna watch pirates of the carribean 2 but i don't have speakers on the windows box
06:26 <anjori> mkzelda: that's freaky
06:27 <mkzelda> yea thats even weirder than him being there
06:27 <mkzelda> the fact he drove away when he saw me coming
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> heh
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> this would be quote of the night
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> (22:24:51) eiknuJlairtsudnI: any hot girls want to go on a serial killing spree with me? we can skullfuck our victims. :) im me
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> (22:24:55) NyCutie7679: hot and willing ;)
06:28 <anjori> maybe he was just trying to find an access point? :P
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> haha
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> I've done that
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> except not in a car
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> :D
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> I managed to get into a few around my school
06:30 <mkzelda> the apt i just moved out of had 15 unsecured wifi nets i could abuse
06:30 <mkzelda> lots of internets
06:30 <mkzelda> for free
06:31 <mkzelda> hehe
06:31 <mkzelda> i busted a guy stealing my neighbor's wifi at another place i lived
06:31 <mkzelda> kept seeing this ford exploder parked outside the apt complex
06:31 <mkzelda> but w/ 2 guys inside
06:31 <mkzelda> 1 w/ laptop
06:31 <spidey> mmm
06:31 <mkzelda> so i went to my neighbor and asked if i could test a theory
06:31 <spidey> 1,600kb/s
06:32 <spidey> is that good for lan? O_o
06:32 <mkzelda> i'd unplug the eth cable and the exploder started moving forward/backward
06:32 <mkzelda> thats a little better than 10mbit
06:32 <spidey> ;D
06:32 <mkzelda> 1250kb/s is 10mbit
06:32 <mkzelda> i kept unplugging/plugging the cable and watching the guy inch his car up
06:32 <mkzelda> that was funny
06:32 <spidey> well the card in the windows box is 100mbps
06:33 <mkzelda> then i went outside and told him to move on
06:33 <spidey> this box must be using the 10mbps
06:33 <spidey> :(
06:33 <spidey> so
06:33 <mkzelda> it wasnt true 1600kb/s then
06:33 <mkzelda> b/c 10mbit cant go that fast
06:33 <spidey> O_o
06:33 <spidey> coping files failed
06:33 <spidey> how gay
06:33 <mkzelda> its prolly 100mbit but thats as fast as the drive wants to go
06:34 <spidey> Device [/dev/hdb3] on [/home] is getting critically full!
06:34 <spidey> you gotta be shitting me
06:36 <spidey> there we go
06:36 <spidey> clean the trash out and it's back to 1.8 gigs
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06:37 <spidey> omg
06:37 <spidey> i'ma kill xchat
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> man, accounting sucks
06:44 <spidey> it being 12:44am sucks
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> it's 12:44am?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> my clock says its 11:45
06:45 <anjori> nah, it's 9:47am
06:45 <anjori> err, pm
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> spidey's in my time zone, isn't he?
06:47 <anjori> i thought he's eastern?
06:47 <spidey> no
06:47 <spidey> i'm central
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, that puts him an hour ahead of me
06:47 <spidey> west tennessee,duh
06:47 <anjori> then he can't tell time :)
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's 11:47pm in central
06:47 <spidey> no
06:47 <spidey> my clock fucked up again
06:47 <spidey> errr
06:48 <anjori> sure it wasn't a user error?
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I hve good news, spidey! It's not as late as you think it is, you've just gained an entire hour on your day!
06:48 <spidey> haha
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: spidey never fucks up, dontcha know?
06:48 <anjori> oh, right!
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> unless it reads "Lucifer core dumped Spidey for 1 points"
06:48 * anjori is still trying to come up with names
06:49 <spidey> LuciSucks!
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> just put down names you'ae actually used. :)
06:49 * spidey adds that to his list
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> if anjori's it, fine.
06:49 <anjori> nah, i wanna keep a couple for when i don't feel like randomizing
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go smoke while I do this part. I have to balance my accounts now. What a pain
06:49 <anjori> and it would just be creepy seeing another anjori
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok. :) I'm going to add at some point (hopefully soon) an option to identify yourself, and comment out autoexec.cfg and let user.cfg shine through
06:50 <anjori> that would be cool
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, ahem. Spidey and I have given our regular names.... ;)
06:50 <anjori> i know. and i would feel weird having one of them, too
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> :) ok
06:50 <[NP]Tangent> I used to be [Null]Hyper
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
06:51 <spidey> i have more,just can't remember them
06:51 <anjori> well, i'll upload what i have so far
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> [NP]Tangent: you're the same Null Hyper that made a bunch of maps for the crack pipe, right?
06:51 <[NP]Tangent> I made two, yes
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> I updated them, they work in 0.2.8 :)
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> got 'em hanging around here somewhere....
06:52 <[NP]Tangent> ah, neato
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I need to do this before we run out of money
06:52 <spidey> yay
06:52 <spidey> time to watch pirates of the carribean2!
06:53 <spidey> wow
06:53 <spidey> awesome quality for a 600mb movie
06:53 <anjori> http://anjori.com/random/anjori.txt
06:54 <spidey> Apllonious
06:54 <spidey> :p
06:54 <anjori> okay, i'll add that
06:54 <spidey> omg
06:54 <spidey> this isn't priates of the carribean!
06:54 <spidey> ban
06:54 <spidey> w/e
06:54 <anjori> where'd you download it from?
06:55 <spidey> it's the blue colloar comedy tour
06:55 <spidey> :(
06:55 <spidey> ares
06:55 <anjori> ares?
06:55 <spidey> that's the first mislabeled movie i've downloaded
06:55 <spidey> ares = p2p client for windows
06:56 <anjori> never heard of it
06:56 <anjori> what network does it use?
06:56 <spidey> gntullia i think
06:56 * anjori doesn't trust anything other than bittorrent for movies
06:57 <spidey> ares is great
06:57 <spidey> this is the first mislabeled movie i've gotten since i started using
06:57 <spidey> about a year and a half
06:58 <spidey> and
06:58 <spidey> bittorrent sucks
06:58 <spidey> i get shitty speeds
06:58 <spidey> even on good torrents i pul maybe 50kb/s
06:58 <spidey> on ares i've never gotten below 200kb/s
06:59 <anjori> perhaps your isp throttles bittorrent traffic?
06:59 <anjori> more and more are doing that -- those bastards.
06:59 <anjori> i had to start using encryption so i could have decent speeds again
07:01 <spidey> mm
07:01 * spidey goes find something to eat
07:10 <spidey> i know this is a bad idea
07:11 <spidey> but i'm hungry :D
07:11 * spidey is eating burritos and has to test tomorrow
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07:23 <spidey> word of advise
07:23 <spidey> don't play with a 600+ ping
07:23 <spidey> ahah
07:30 <[NP]Tangent> dude
07:30 <[NP]Tangent> spidey
07:30 <[NP]Tangent> I owned with a 700 ping once
07:30 <[NP]Tangent> so :P
07:34 <spidey> once
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07:34 <spidey> i didn't do bad
07:34 <spidey> but i didn't do good
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07:37 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu_
07:47 <luke-jr_> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/test.php :)
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08:26 <spidey> yay
08:27 * spidey is away watching pirates of the carribean 2
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> accounting sucks
08:32 <mkzelda> wow that server config is so close to the one i was working on, looks nice luke-jr_
08:32 <mkzelda> server config generator
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> on the one hand, it's nice knowing I have more than enough in my checking account to cover every bill I have right now (not counting outstanding debts)
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, it took 2 hours to figure it out :(
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
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08:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back! *kiss*
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09:04 <Lucifer_arma> what's openoffice.org math?
09:07 <wrtlprnft> formula thingy?
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> what's it for?
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> besides formulas. I mean, waht I can use the output files for?
09:09 <wrtlprnft> to put nice sqare root signs into documents?
09:12 <anjori> what's the character limit on armagetron nicks?
09:12 <anjori> apparently i have a couple that are too long
09:12 <wrtlprnft> 15
09:12 <anjori> damn
09:13 <anjori> a few, even
09:13 <anjori> will have to modify my names list
09:16 <anjori> Lucifer_arma: do i have to redo ./namepicker.py -a anjori.txt after modifying, or does it pull from the file itself each time?
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> it pulls from the file each time, no need to redo it
09:16 <anjori> k
09:18 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: it'd be a pain to fully implement
09:19 <anjori> at least i get to keep "SIR CAPSALOCK". horribly corny, but an original :P
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09:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back! *kiss*
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09:59 <philippeqc> hi
10:02 <philippeqc> darn, I have some bad memory. The code crashes and the location change when I insert small changes in the code
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10:02 <philippeqc> i guess it is some bad memory operation somewhere else in my code
10:03 <philippeqc> do you have some tips about tools that could help me track them down
10:14 <luke-jr_> spidey: ping
10:21 <guru3> vive mass user deletion via the mysql cli
10:21 <spidey> ?
10:22 <guru3> all the spam user registrations
10:22 <guru3> a lot of them come from the same email host
10:22 <guru3> so it's just easier to judge everyone guilty
10:22 <guru3> and delete everyone whose email domain
10:22 <guru3> matches
10:22 <guru3> and leave the phpbb tables slightly broken
10:23 <luke-jr_> ...
10:23 <guru3> vive democracy :)
10:23 <luke-jr_> spidey: PM me a password to use?
10:23 <philippeqc> that is not democracy, that is a dictaturship
10:23 * philippeqc goes to a online dictionary
10:23 <luke-jr_> lol
10:24 <guru3> potaatoe potahtoe
10:24 <guru3> potaetoe potahtoe
10:24 <guru3> damn typos
10:24 <luke-jr_> patata
10:24 <luke-jr_> =p
10:24 <philippeqc> dictatorship
10:24 <guru3> the difference between el papa and la papa
10:24 <philippeqc> or in french, le papa
10:25 <luke-jr_> deek taters sheip
10:25 <philippeqc> masculine is "le", feminine is "la". Just think of the numbers of feminine names that end with "a"
10:25 <guru3> i have a torrent that will be done in 1300 hours
10:25 <philippeqc> #g 1300 / 24
10:25 <armabot> 1,300 / 24 = 54.1666667
10:26 <philippeqc> hope your ups is on
10:26 <guru3> 1
10:26 <guru3> the machine has 56 days of uptime tho ><
10:27 <philippeqc> luke-jr_: in my code I must have a floating pointer or some bad alloc. Any tip how to track it? any tools to help me?
10:27 <philippeqc> I'm crancked the code from DEBUGLEVEL=3 CODELVEL=2 to DEBUGLEVEL=4 CODELVEL=3 and I'm sifting through the gazillions new errors and warnings
10:28 <luke-jr_> [0] Command MAX_CLIENTS unknown.
10:28 <luke-jr_> [0] Command SERVER_IP unknown.
10:28 <luke-jr_> [0] Command SERVER_PORT unknown.
10:28 <luke-jr_> [0] Command MAX_IN_RATE unknown.
10:28 <luke-jr_> [0] Command MAX_OUT_RATE unknown.
10:28 <philippeqc> guru, what are you torrenting?
10:28 <guru3> oh, just stuff...
10:28 <philippeqc> k
10:29 <guru3> but i'm amazed that QoS
10:29 <guru3> keeps the servers playable
10:29 <luke-jr_> hehehe
10:29 <guru3> i'm there, 24 torrents running
10:29 <guru3> and i see like
10:29 <guru3> 11 people on classic ply
10:31 <philippeqc> all the star trek fans, check www.newvoyages.com . they have released at least 2 episodes, and they sure are good
10:49 <spidey> wrtlprnft, ? Lucifer_arma ?
10:49 <wrtlprnft> spidey: ?
10:50 <spidey> to find the % of a number it's x*%/100 ?
10:51 <wrtlprnft> ...
10:51 <wrtlprnft> 1 = 100%
10:51 <wrtlprnft> 1* = 1/100
10:51 <wrtlprnft> err
10:51 <wrtlprnft> 1% = 1/100
10:51 <spidey> math, i haven't had this in 2 years
10:51 <wrtlprnft> that's all there is to it
10:51 <spidey> my old school = the sux
10:52 <spidey> ywa
10:52 <spidey> yea,i know how to find the percent of a number over 100
10:52 <spidey> ok
10:53 <spidey> say what's the percent of 1000
10:53 <spidey> 'er
10:53 <spidey> what's 13% of 1000
10:53 <spidey> that's what i ment :p
10:53 <wrtlprnft> well
10:53 <wrtlprnft> see
10:53 <wrtlprnft> of you can translate by times
10:53 <wrtlprnft> replace the % sign by 1/100
10:53 <wrtlprnft> then you get:
10:53 <philippeqc> 13/100 = 13%
10:54 <philippeqc> 99/100 = 99%
10:54 <wrtlprnft> 13*1/100*1000
10:54 <philippeqc> 101/100 ? 101%
10:54 <philippeqc> 1000/100 = 1000%
10:54 * spidey pokes philippeqc
10:54 <philippeqc> grrrrr
10:55 <wrtlprnft> i already gave you the answer...
10:55 <wrtlprnft> 10:54 <wrtlprnft> 13*1/100*1000
10:55 <philippeqc> yep
10:55 <wrtlprnft> everytime you hear the word "of" in math you can replace it my times
10:55 <wrtlprnft> *by times
10:55 <wrtlprnft> and every occurence of % you replace by 1/100 or .01
10:55 <spidey> ya
10:56 <spidey> ok
10:56 <spidey> so 1000*.13 ? O_o
10:56 <wrtlprnft> well
10:56 <philippeqc> yes
10:56 <wrtlprnft> yes
10:57 <wrtlprnft> or, if you wanna do it in your head I'd rather do this:
10:57 <wrtlprnft> 13*(1000/100)
10:57 <wrtlprnft> 13*10
10:57 <wrtlprnft> 130
10:57 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: how do you hunt down bad memory management.
10:57 <spidey> ah
10:57 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: no clue
10:57 <philippeqc> grrr
10:58 <wrtlprnft> you just hunt for it until you find it
10:58 <wrtlprnft> or use the armagetronad memmanager
10:58 <wrtlprnft> make a recording, then play it back in gdb, it'll stop where the undeleted object was created
10:58 <philippeqc> do you have a clue how to use it beside changing all of my "new" to "tNEW" ?
10:59 <wrtlprnft> you don't even need to do that for basic debugging
10:59 <wrtlprnft> just as i said: make a recording, then play it back in gdb, it'll stop where the undeleted object was created
10:59 <philippeqc> ok, will try that
11:03 <wrtlprnft> oh, you have to have DEBUGLEVEL at 3 of course
11:04 <philippeqc> yes
11:06 <philippeqc> the playback is not interrupted, but crashes at the same location
11:06 <philippeqc> Go (round 1 of 10 )!
11:06 <philippeqc> Internal Error: Internal error in void gPlayerWall::Check() const in ../../src/tron/gWall.cpp:1261 :
11:06 <philippeqc> Assertion endDist_ < netWall_->Pos( 1 ) + EPS failed
11:06 <philippeqc> Please send a Bug report!
11:06 <philippeqc> Breakpoint!
11:06 <philippeqc> [Thread 1082964320 (zombie) exited]
11:06 <philippeqc> Internal Error: Internal error in void gPlayerWall::Check() const in ../../src/tron/gWall.cpp:1261 :
11:06 <philippeqc> Assertion endDist_ < netWall_->Pos( 1 ) + EPS failed
11:06 <philippeqc> Please send a Bug report!
11:06 <philippeqc> Breakpoint!
11:07 <philippeqc> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'int'
11:07 <philippeqc> Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
11:07 <wrtlprnft> o_O
11:07 <wrtlprnft> no clue without any context
11:08 <philippeqc> major changes to the parser and new zone assistant objects. I had the crashes during the parsing until just now, where I reach game start and it crashes at soon as the cycle start to move
11:08 <wrtlprnft> hmm
11:10 <wrtlprnft> no clue, sorry
11:10 <wrtlprnft> i don't know anything about that part of the engine
11:11 <philippeqc> it is quite strange as it appears with only few of the new object being called.
11:21 <spidey> wrtl! another question :D
11:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah?
11:21 <spidey> % of a fraction
11:22 <wrtlprnft> ?
11:22 <spidey> erm
11:22 <spidey> 7/8 = %
11:22 <wrtlprnft> ...
11:22 <philippeqc> 7/8 * 100%
11:22 <spidey> O.o
11:23 <philippeqc> spidey, a percentage is a value (7/8) multiplied by 100
11:23 <spidey> ah
11:23 <spidey> nvm
11:24 <spidey> 0012/3
11:24 <spidey> that was ment for that kcalc
11:24 <philippeqc> =4
11:24 <philippeqc> if you want to take out a certain percentage (x) from a whole (y)
11:25 <philippeqc> you have to do (x/100) * y
11:35 <philippeqc> darn, I just thought! I merged with the head of the trunk yesterday evening. MAYBE the problem comes from there (hopes a lot)
11:36 <philippeqc> is there an easy way to have my private branch being updated with the latest from trunk?
11:36 <wrtlprnft> no
11:37 <wrtlprnft> just keep it as your own checkout from the trunk
11:37 <wrtlprnft> if you merge we'll double space useage on svn
11:38 <philippeqc> I moved to a private branch so I could commit my works. I nearly lost everything to a careless "rm -rf *"
11:38 <wrtlprnft> ask luke-jr_ or z-man
12:25 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-199-86.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
12:26 <madmax|pt> hello
12:29 * spidey slaps madmax|pt
12:29 <spidey> brb
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12:31 * madmax|pt kills spidey
12:31 * spidey slaps madmax|pt again
12:31 * madmax|pt kills spidey again
12:31 * spidey slaps madmax|pt again
12:31 * madmax|pt kills spidey again
12:31 * spidey humps madmax|pt
12:31 <madmax|pt> erm
12:31 <madmax|pt> heh
12:31 <spidey> ;D
12:32 <spidey> i love these vhosts
12:32 <madmax|pt> you're changing every day?
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12:33 <madmax|pt> o_O
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12:33 <madmax|pt> lol
12:33 <spidey> O_
12:33 <spidey> O.o
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12:35 * spidey is inlove with them
12:35 <spidey> mentally.humped.org
12:35 <spidey> lol
12:36 <spidey> mkzelda, ?
12:38 <spidey> i think this book wants me to memorize 20% 550 is 110
12:39 <spidey> :/
12:39 <spidey> they keep giving me that problem in different words every 2 pages
12:48 <madmax|pt> book about what?
13:02 <wrtlprnft> #nikometer Lucifer_arma
13:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
13:02 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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13:04 <z-man> #nickometer iceman
13:04 <z-man> hey, armabot, do your job!
13:04 <wrtlprnft> he unloaded the plugin
13:04 <z-man> aww
13:04 <z-man> did it really give >100% for iceman?
13:05 <wrtlprnft> dunno
13:05 <wrtlprnft> #last --from iceman
13:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 33406 messages.
13:05 <wrtlprnft> #seen iceman
13:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I have not seen iceman.
13:05 <z-man> aha
13:05 <wrtlprnft> guess not
13:05 <wrtlprnft> #nickometer Lucifer_arma
13:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
13:05 <wrtlprnft> i like that one :)
13:06 <z-man> hehe
13:06 <wrtlprnft> #nickometer z-man
13:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: : The lame nick-o-meter reading for &1 is 0.0%.
13:07 <wrtlprnft> err
13:07 <wrtlprnft> #nickometer z-man
13:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: : The lame nick-o-meter reading for z-man is 0.0%.
13:07 <philippeqc> z-man how do you enable efence for armagetron?
13:07 <z-man> I don't, efence sucks
13:07 <philippeqc> ok
13:08 <philippeqc> what memory verification utility do you use?
13:08 <z-man> it doesn't even get past the initialization stage, clogs up the entire memory
13:08 <z-man> valgrind
13:08 <z-man> just use DEBUGLEVEL=1, and you can use it
13:08 <z-man> valgrind is a virtual machine, that makes things a bit slower, but more memory efficient, and it catches more bugs.
13:09 <wrtlprnft> a bit? that's a big understatement
13:09 <philippeqc> why does tMemManager.h still include efence.h and efencepp.h
13:09 <z-man> The only stupid thing is that it gives lots of false warnings about your graphics driver if you want to run the client in valgrind.
13:09 <z-man> dunno about tMemmanager.h, probably relics from experiments.
13:09 <philippeqc> ok
13:10 <z-man> wrtlprnft: well, it's still faster than efence :)
13:10 <z-man> and it runs fast enough on my machines to actually play a bit.
13:10 <z-man> But I use it with recordings anyway to get reproducible output.
13:12 <philippeqc> ok thanks for the tips
13:46 <philippeqc> if I get the following error, what should I look into ?
13:46 <philippeqc> Internal Error: Internal error in void gPlayerWall::Check() const in ../../src/tron/gWall.cpp:1261 :
13:46 <philippeqc> Assertion endDist_ < netWall_->Pos( 1 ) + EPS failed
13:46 <philippeqc> Please send a Bug report!
13:46 <philippeqc> Breakpoint!
13:46 <philippeqc> [Thread 1082964320 (zombie) exited]
13:47 <philippeqc> ^^^^^ that was for z-man
14:19 <spidey> if this car averages 26miles to the gallon how many miles did the car travel in the year
14:19 <spidey> they're kidding right?
14:19 <spidey> not even a chart for reference
14:28 <philippeqc> chart?
14:28 <philippeqc> you need more data for that problem. I guess they want you to first calculate how much fuel it used, and then convert that into distance
14:29 <philippeqc> z-man, wrtlprnft, Lucifer_arma, anybody HA!
14:29 <philippeqc> its not my code that is the prob. there is a bug in trunk
14:29 <wrtlprnft> that's nothing new
14:29 <wrtlprnft> it crashes on exit sometime
14:30 <philippeqc> I configured it with DEBUGLEVEL=3 CODELEVEL=2, compiled it, and as soon as the cycle start to move, I get the following crash
14:30 <z-man> philippeqc: I got that error when experimenting with wall prediction, it magically went away when I fixed something
14:31 <philippeqc> Go (round 1 of 10 )!
14:31 <philippeqc> Internal Error: Internal error in void gPlayerWall::Check() const in ../../src/tron/gWall.cpp:1261 :
14:31 <philippeqc> Assertion endDist_ < netWall_->Pos( 1 ) + EPS failed
14:31 <philippeqc> Please send a Bug report!
14:31 <philippeqc> Breakpoint!
14:31 <philippeqc> Internal Error: Internal error in void gPlayerWall::Check() const in ../../src/tron/gWall.cpp:1261 :
14:31 <philippeqc> Assertion endDist_ < netWall_->Pos( 1 ) + EPS failed
14:31 <philippeqc> Please send a Bug report!
14:31 <philippeqc> Breakpoint!
14:31 <philippeqc> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'int'
14:31 <z-man> If you can send over a recording of it (prefereably from current 0.2.8 branch, that's where the change happened), that would help.
14:31 <philippeqc> Aborted
14:31 <z-man> Hmm, never have seen it right on start
14:31 <z-man> only after someone died.
14:32 <philippeqc> 0.2.8 branch, ok, (revision 5755)
14:32 <z-man> Server or client?
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14:32 <philippeqc> client
14:32 <philippeqc> i though it was my zone code for a long time
14:33 <philippeqc> compiling branch 0.2.8
14:33 <wrtlprnft> 624 unread mails... I'm too lazy right now i guess
14:34 <z-man> philippeqc: hmm, doesn't happen that way for me :( I really need a recording
14:36 <philippeqc> you would prefet it on the forum or on pastebin.com?
14:37 <z-man> Wherever I can get it at home
14:37 <z-man> both are fine
14:37 * z-man forgot to bring his changed password to work, duh
14:41 <spidey> bvhost demented.chickenkiller.com
14:41 <spidey> gr
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14:43 <philippeqc> posted on the forum from branch 0.2.8 (not 0.2.8.0)
14:44 <philippeqc> at rev 5755
14:46 <spidey> anyone want a bnc account? ;x
14:46 <philippeqc> bnc? the only bnc I know is Banque Nationale du Canada
14:47 <spidey> it's a irc proxy
14:47 <spidey> how i changed my host name
14:47 <spidey> ./whois spidey
14:47 <spidey> ;x
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14:48 <philippeqc> #whois spidey
14:49 <spidey> doesn't work that way
14:49 <spidey> that's for domains
14:49 <spidey> [spidey] (i=spidey@demented.chickenkiller.com): does whatever a spidey can
14:49 <spidey> * [spidey] #armagetron
14:49 <spidey> i=spidey@demented.chickenkiller.com = host name
14:49 <spidey> there's a wide range of vhosts to
14:49 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/vhost
14:50 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/vhosts
14:51 <spidey> i like it because it saves logs and if you get timed out your name stays in the room
14:51 <spidey> then you just reconnect to the bnc server
14:52 <z-man> philippeqc: nope, still doesn't happen for me :(
14:52 <philippeqc> grrr
14:52 <z-man> you can just disable the assertion until we find out more, it's not terribly important.
14:52 <philippeqc> I get it systematically on 0.2.8 and trunk
14:53 <philippeqc> ok
14:53 <spidey> #night
14:53 <armabot> Good night spidey!
14:54 <philippeqc> good nith
14:54 <philippeqc> night
14:55 <philippeqc> now I got the other assert when I made my cycle turn
15:00 <z-man> Disable it as well for now :)
15:00 <z-man> asserts are for people who don't trust their code, anyway.
15:02 <wrtlprnft> or people who don't trust the one who writes the code that uses a certain function ;)
15:07 <philippeqc> ;)
15:08 <philippeqc> i did disable it. now I get to errors in my own code ;)
15:34 <philippeqc> gone to the gym, see you in a while
15:36 <wrtlprnft> cya
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17:29 <mkzelda> lol
17:29 <mkzelda> just tried speeders fortress
17:29 <mkzelda> pretty stupid
17:29 <mkzelda> you can get out of anything if you really wanna camp it out
17:29 <mkzelda> 20 rubber
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17:37 <madmax|pt> tough thing is def
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18:34 <luke-jr_> philippeqc__: just keep track of your last trunk merge rev and use svn merge
18:35 <philippeqc__> thanks
18:36 <philippeqc__> the error was in trunk while i thought it was in my own code. With z-man help, I commented out the assert. So I should be clear to keep on hacking my bit.
18:38 <wrtlprnft> so, does anyone know why CIA doesn't work?
19:15 <nemostultae> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Making_Maps_by_Hand --> Database error
19:24 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
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20:05 <philippeqc__> /away
20:06 * spidey yawns
20:06 <philippeqc__> how can I do a backtrace with all variables?
20:07 <philippeqc__> nemo: I REALLY wish there is a backup somewhere... 51K long text
20:14 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: it does
20:14 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: armabot doesn't
20:22 <philippeqc__> luke-jr_: do you know in gdb how to display all the variables?
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20:24 <spidey> sup lack
20:24 <luke-jr_> philippeqc__: no idea, I use insight
20:25 <philippeqc__> ok
20:25 <philippeqc__> I'll post on the forum
20:25 <philippeqc__> insight?
20:26 <philippeqc__> well that is one crappy term to google on
20:27 <philippeqc__> it seem to be some sort of front on gdb
20:27 <philippeqc__> good to know
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20:31 <z-man> Argh
20:31 <philippeqc__> ?
20:31 <z-man> got myself spamkicked from my own server again :)
20:31 <philippeqc__> lol
20:35 <philippeqc__> z-man: how do I grab all the variables?
20:36 <z-man> with p
20:36 <luke-jr_> z-man: I do that all the time
20:36 <spidey> me to
20:37 <spidey> actually i do it atleast three times a day :/
20:37 <z-man> spidey and luke-jr_: get kicked?
20:37 <philippeqc__> there isnt a command for "all the variables at the local scope"?
20:37 <spidey> spam kicked from my own server
20:37 <z-man> philippeqc__: no :(
20:37 <spidey> usually from doing admin commands wrong
20:37 <philippeqc__> :(
20:37 <philippeqc__> ouch
20:38 <z-man> But we can do an interactive sesion here with /msg :)
20:38 <philippeqc__> ok
20:38 <spidey> mmm
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20:39 <z-man> hey, that didn't open a new tab
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20:42 <luke-jr_> lala
20:42 <z-man> philippeqc__: you there? There should be a new window/tab open for you :)
20:43 <philippeqc__> I have one, I was talking to you there
20:43 <z-man> Umm, nothing is getting through
20:44 <luke-jr_> are you both registered?
20:44 <z-man> I guess I am
20:44 <philippeqc__> darn
20:44 <philippeqc__> I could read you thoug
20:44 <philippeqc__> nope
20:44 <philippeqc__> #register philippeqc
20:44 <armabot> philippeqc__: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
20:44 <philippeqc__> and a big fat nothing
20:44 <philippeqc__> saw the link, will register
20:45 <z-man> We could also just open a new channel
20:45 <z-man> join #armawallbug
20:45 <luke-jr_> erm
20:45 <luke-jr_> not #register
20:45 <luke-jr_> /msg nickserv help register
20:47 <z-man> wake me up when you got it :)
20:47 * wrtlprnft got soo used to armabot reporting commits :S
20:48 -!- philippeqc__ is now known as philippeqc_
20:48 <wrtlprnft> big improvement
20:48 <philippeqc_> /msg nickserv link philippeqc conf
20:49 -!- philippeqc_ is now known as philippeqc
20:49 <z-man> That's probably a lameness factor decrease of .1 :)
20:49 <wrtlprnft> /msg nickserv ghost philippeqc conf
20:49 <spidey> lol
20:49 <wrtlprnft> jk
20:49 <philippeqc> yep, saw it, so I changed my password immediatly
20:50 <philippeqc> ghost?
20:50 <spidey> kills a nick
20:50 <wrtlprnft> kicks the user
20:50 <wrtlprnft> in case it didn't yet time out
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20:50 <luke-jr_> ...
20:51 <philippeqc> should be done
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20:51 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu_
20:51 <wrtlprnft> like that
20:51 <philippeqc> nope
20:51 -!- wrtlprnft_kopete [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240] has left #armagetron ["this would be spam by default"]
20:51 <wrtlprnft> hehe changed that quit message
20:52 <spidey> mine says skrew the best salute the rest
20:52 * deja_vu_ slaps wrtlprnft >:(
20:52 <spidey> haha
20:52 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
20:52 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: it's armabot's fault
20:53 <deja_vu> why? ^^
20:53 <wrtlprnft> 20:51 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu_
20:53 <wrtlprnft> she says it...
20:54 <spidey> he
20:55 <wrtlprnft> sexist spidey
20:55 <spidey> ?
20:55 <madmax|pt> "spidey ... skrew the best"
20:55 <madmax|pt> sexist
20:55 <deja_vu> weelll... and why does armabot say that? :P
20:55 <spidey> ............
20:56 <spidey> you two make no sense
20:56 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: because i joined
20:56 <spidey> madmax|pt, what does my quit message have to do with anything?
20:56 <deja_vu> see?
20:56 <deja_vu> your fault :P
20:57 <madmax|pt> lol
20:57 <deja_vu> stop coming here ^^
20:57 <wrtlprnft> well
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20:58 <spidey> mmm
21:00 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: other idea: change your name so you don't get woken up
21:00 <deja_vu> :/
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21:01 <wrtlprnft> well, i like that idea better
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21:04 * spidey slaps armabot
21:23 <philippeqc> spidey, you have to do something about all that agression.
21:31 * spidey slaps philippeqc
21:31 <philippeqc> exactly what I'm talking about
21:31 <spidey> ;D
21:54 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
21:54 <Vanhayes> bah
22:10 <nemostultae> #armaservers
22:10 <armabot> nemostultae: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:14 <wrtlprnft> it's invalid chars
22:14 <wrtlprnft> they aren
22:14 <wrtlprnft> 't filtered correctly, so the XML is invalid if some pricks with latin-1 contron chars are online
22:15 <luke-jr_> z-man: um, you know 'jobs' isn't available for shell scripts?
22:19 <wrtlprnft> it is if you use /bin/bash as a shell methinks
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> one of z-man's names is registered, but I don't know which :)
22:19 <wrtlprnft> but /bin/sh doesn't know about it since it's a bash addition
22:20 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: nope
22:20 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: you need a tty
22:20 * wrtlprnft hates Oscilloscope/Louven/silly/Audrey more with every post he makes
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22:20 * Lucifer_arma only hates his mother-in-law. The rest he can tolerate to some extent.
22:21 <luke-jr_> O.o
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22:21 <Lucifer_arma> this eggroll was good, I will eat another one
22:22 <luke-jr_> ...
22:22 <luke-jr_> I think my wife eats eggrolls
22:23 <Lackadaisical> is oscilloscope a boy or a girl?
22:24 <luke-jr_> both
22:25 <Lackadaisical> noone knows?
22:25 <Lackadaisical> or are you serious?
22:25 <nemostultae> he is a dude.
22:25 <luke-jr_> lol
22:25 <philippeqc> z-man went to clean his kitchen.
22:26 * wrtlprnft enters spidey mode
22:26 * wrtlprnft slaps Oscilloscope
22:26 * wrtlprnft slaps Louven
22:26 * wrtlprnft slaps sirry
22:26 * wrtlprnft slaps Audrey
22:26 * wrtlprnft leaves spidey mode
22:26 <Lackadaisical> you forgot gina
22:26 <wrtlprnft> *silly
22:26 <philippeqc> lol @ wrtlprnft
22:26 <wrtlprnft> gina? didn't know about that
22:27 <wrtlprnft> heck, i don't wanna know all aliases.
22:27 <wrtlprnft> I'd rather prefer to play in peace without knowing that an idiot is around
22:27 <wrtlprnft> well, even if I'm the only one on a server there's already an idiot around, so make that two idiots
22:28 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar_ is now known as [Xpert]DarkStar
22:29 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B9A1C.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> silly's a married man, that's why he's so angry
22:31 <philippeqc> rotfl
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm planning on adding Audrey 2 to my name file, and I must admit there's a part of me hoping it pisses off silly
22:31 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577BBE04.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> but the largest part of me is hoping people will recognize the name from somewhere besides him :)
22:32 <nemostultae> He'll probably kick you for it.
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> why? He prejudiced against man-eating plants?
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> *musical, at that
22:32 <nemostultae> Just don't go in to shrunkland with it
22:32 <philippeqc> "Oh! Dray too" would probably be too complex for anyone to get
22:32 <wrtlprnft> don't go to shrunkland at all if he's around
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't go to shrunkland much anyway. It is a deathmatch server, after all
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I usually only go there when silly is there and fortress is empty to tell everybody "deathmatch sucks, play fortress!"
22:33 * Lucifer_arma wonders if he's contributed to silly's anti-fortress attitude
22:34 * wrtlprnft hopes Lucifer_arma will help contribute to that so he doesn't annoy fortress people
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> heh, silly doesn't play much fortress anymore. last time I saw him in there, he just ODD'd on his team and got vote-kicked
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> (where ODD = Oppositional Defiant Disorder)
22:35 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, why not add guy |mbc| ?
22:36 <anjori> heh
22:38 <philippeqc> that will evolve into a "why not have all the clans tags" and will result in the forum being spammed about imposters and whiny clan boys requesting that their precious clan tags be protected.
22:38 <spidey> ahah
22:38 <spidey> i ment it more as a insult for scope ;p
22:38 <anjori> a had to remove a few of mine spidey, for length
22:38 <philippeqc> I agree with the insult!
22:38 <spidey> scope = guy |mbc|
22:38 <spidey> o.o
22:38 -!- philippeqc is now known as |mbc|
22:39 -!- |mbc| is now known as |mbc|philippe
22:39 <wrtlprnft> err
22:39 <wrtlprnft> please, phillipe |mbc|
22:39 <wrtlprnft> i hate clan tags in front of the name
22:39 <spidey> lol
22:39 <wrtlprnft> infact, any tag
22:39 <spidey> even if it looks better infront?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> what's more important, the tag or the nick?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> what should be read first?
22:39 <anjori> but we don't have their own identities! we live and breathe for the clan!
22:40 <wrtlprnft> pfft
22:40 <anjori> *our own
22:40 <anjori> i need to wake up before trying to converse
22:40 -!- |mbc|philippe is now known as philippeqc
22:40 -!- philippeqc is now known as philippeqc_
22:41 -!- philippeqc_ is now known as philippeqc
22:41 <philippeqc> o I give up
22:42 <philippeqc> I'm about to code what will be know on the most evil feature
22:42 <philippeqc> the "onOutside" of a zone
22:42 <philippeqc> mouahahahahahhahahahahaha
22:43 <philippeqc> hahahahahahaha
22:43 <philippeqc> hahahahahahah
22:43 <philippeqc> *puff puff*
22:43 <philippeqc> hahahahahahahahah
22:45 * spidey is annoyed with eggdrop
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> would anybody else like some laughing gas?
22:46 <spidey> LOL
22:46 * [Xpert]DarkStar is the proud owner of two sun ultra 10
22:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :D :D
22:46 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: will there also be something like a condition that you are ouside of two zones?
22:46 <Vanhayes> stop talking and play fortress spidey
22:46 <wrtlprnft> so you're in neither zone?
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> would you like an eggroll to go with that?
22:46 -!- cusco [n=Tiago@82.12.199.230] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:47 <spidey> Vanhayes eh?
22:47 <philippeqc> dont you get it, you can trigger the effect of a zone by being OUTSIDE! Outside!!!!
22:47 <spidey> Vanhayes, i'm not in tron
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> no way!
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> actually, that's good
22:47 <wrtlprnft> warning, paste
22:47 <wrtlprnft> g++ -I. -I.. -O2 -march=pentium-m -mmmx -msse -msse2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wpointer-arith -W -Wcast-qual -Wcast-align -Wconversion --pedantic -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-long-long -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -o armagetronad_main armagetronad_main-gFloor.o armagetronad_main-cCockpit.o armagetronad_main-cMap.o libtron.a libenginecore.a libengine.a libnetwork.a libui.a thirdparty/shttpd/libshttpd.a librender.a libtools.a thirdparty/particles/libparticles.a -lpthread -lSDL_image -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lGLU -lGL -lSDL_mixer -lSDL -lpthread -lm -L/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lm -lGLU -lGL -lfreetype -lz -lftgl -lfreetype -lz
22:47 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad_main-cMap.o: In function `cWidget::Map::DrawMap(bool, bool, bool, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double)':
22:47 <wrtlprnft> cMap.cpp:(.text+0xed4): undefined reference to `gridded_sg_netPlayerWalls'
22:47 <wrtlprnft> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> hey, do we have any cool new zone effects to play with?
22:47 <wrtlprnft> comes when i compile the trunk
22:47 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: I'll look into that when I'm done with monitors (fortress like behavior)
22:47 <wrtlprnft> or try to compile
22:48 <Vanhayes> spidey: someone is playing as BlAz3-D in speeders fort
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now I've emerged gcc 4.1 and I'd like to rebuild my whole system with it and remove all packages not built with it
22:48 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: I was thinking to do something like that. "inside" is inside either, and outside is anything else
22:48 <Vanhayes> thought that was you
22:48 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: emerge -ea world
22:48 <spidey> Vanhayes, ya some clone :)
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: thanks :)
22:48 <spidey> he came in my server while i was playing
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: Vanhayes it's not me :)
22:48 * Lucifer_arma hasn't played in a week or so, been busy
22:49 * wrtlprnft does make clean && make and hopes the bug goes away
22:49 <Vanhayes> speeders shopuyld have learned fort isnt fun with 20 rubber
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's not worth doing if you need rubber
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> at least, that's what I tell my wife
22:51 <spidey> hahaha
22:51 <spidey> 20 rubber?
22:51 <spidey> wtf
22:51 <philippeqc> lol
22:51 <wrtlprnft> :s there's people <18 in here :P
22:51 <spidey> ??who
22:51 <spidey> ohhh Vanhayes
22:51 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: some warning
22:51 <wrtlprnft> tron/gWall.cpp: In member function `void gPlayerWall::Check() const':
22:51 <wrtlprnft> tron/gWall.cpp:1260: warning: unused variable 'range'
22:51 <wrtlprnft> might wanna fix that
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> that only matters if there are people both <18 and person.virgin == True
22:52 * z-man will fix the sg_netPlayerWalls thingy, it got renamed
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> don't worry, I'll be hard at work on calculus again in a minute
22:53 <philippeqc> void gPlayerWall::Check() const
22:53 <philippeqc> {
22:53 <philippeqc> netWall_->Check();
22:53 <philippeqc> tASSERT( begDist_ >= netWall_->Pos( 0 ) - EPS );
22:53 <philippeqc> tASSERT( endDist_ <= netWall_->Pos( 1 ) + EPS );
22:53 <philippeqc> }
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> I only came home because I was so hungry I couldn't concentrate anymore
22:53 <philippeqc> no range
22:54 <philippeqc> yeah luci, that is the excuse I always give when I end up in orgies such as the one you described.
22:54 <luke-jr_> Winner: 21.203's AI Team
22:54 <luke-jr_> WTF is with the #s?
22:54 * Lucifer_arma always thought a Paulie Shore look-alike would be in demand at all the local orgies
22:55 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: CIA doesn't seem to work at all
22:55 <wrtlprnft> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/armagetronad/
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> is it reading the ladder file instead of the ai file?
22:55 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: a shame
22:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: ?
22:55 <wrtlprnft> no trace of philippeqc creating a branch or something
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: it's not working, I opened a tracker item
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> and have been ignored, it seems
22:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: this is with 0.2.8.2
22:55 <philippeqc> but no, I'm not getting marked on cia
22:56 <wrtlprnft> just because luke-jr_ says it only affects armabot/#commits
22:56 <luke-jr_> are resource uploads showing up with CIA?
22:56 <wrtlprnft> not that i know
22:56 <wrtlprnft> dunno if there were any
22:56 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: well, I said 'armagetronad' in #commits and it didn't copy here
22:56 <z-man> cMap should be fixed
22:56 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: that's fine
22:56 <wrtlprnft> it only accepts CIA-. now
22:57 <wrtlprnft> the trunk still won't link for me
22:57 <luke-jr_> z-man: use $! instead of jobs -p
22:57 <wrtlprnft> never mind, z-man said he was gonna fix it
22:57 <wrtlprnft> z-man: tell me when you're done as armabot won't
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> no, I've been ignored in sourceforge's tracker
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> armabot filters from #commits by user name since luke discovered he could still annoy me after I've ignored him by going to #commits and saying "armagetronad"
22:58 <wrtlprnft> and possibly annoying everyone else who is in there
22:58 <luke-jr_> you were ignoring me?
22:58 <spidey> hshshs
22:59 <wrtlprnft> shshsh
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it's a problem with other projects on sourceforge that use CIA, too
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: no, not at that time, but you showed you could do it. :)
22:59 <wrtlprnft> so SF is to blame?
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> yes, except...
22:59 <spidey> i know a way to annoy that can't be taken away :p
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible it never would have happened to us if I hadn't fooled with it. :)
22:59 * Lucifer_arma refers to his post on the subject on the forums
23:00 * luke-jr_ blames Lucifer_arma
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> I maintain that nothing I did should have broken it, and it's still sourceforge's fault, but what really matters (heh) is that sourceforge needs to fix it if we want it to work again
23:00 <wrtlprnft> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/host/sourceforge <-- there are commits from SF...
23:01 <nemostultae> sf probably isn't hosted on sf, too unstable for them. ;)
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> I think it happened because of some bug in sourceforge.net that only hurts you if you try to change your commit hooks *now*
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> but if it's an established commit hook from before the bug entered the code, you shouldn't suffer if you don't fool with your settings
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> at least, that's what it feels like to me :)
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> also, I'd expect that projects still using cvs won't suffer this problem at all
23:01 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: make a support request?
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> yes
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1524145&group_id=1
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> made it yesterday, I think
23:03 <luke-jr_> does the rsync mirror show the problem?
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1524336&group_id=1&atid=200001 <--- similar problem
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> ? rsync mirror show the problem....
23:04 * Lucifer_arma wonders what that means
23:05 <luke-jr_> luke-jr@tsurukikun svn $ diff armagetronad/hooks/ armagetronad-brokenhook/hooks/ -ur
23:06 <luke-jr_> -/var/local/mastertree/service-svn/hook-scripts/ciabot_svn.py "$1" "$2" armagetronad
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> the arguments to the hook have changed, but that's not when it broke
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> it broke when I added an email notification hook
23:06 <luke-jr_> there are no hooks on our project's Svn
23:07 <luke-jr_> other than SF's stats thing
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, the arguments to the svn hook have changed, so it looks like it's not writing the changes to svn where it matters, but is storing them in the database
23:08 <luke-jr_> exactly
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> and for some reason it is clearing the hooks when you make a change
23:08 <luke-jr_> it's not updating the hooks file
23:08 <wrtlprnft> darn #%$� SF
23:08 <wrtlprnft> i don't want to be forced to change my password
23:09 <luke-jr_> LOL
23:09 <luke-jr_> at least you can change it back
23:09 <luke-jr_> unlike me
23:09 * wrtlprnft will change it back
23:09 <wrtlprnft> just for protest
23:09 <luke-jr_> I can't :(
23:09 <luke-jr_> my old password is no longer acceptable
23:10 <wrtlprnft> well
23:10 <wrtlprnft> just append a 1 to the old one
23:10 <wrtlprnft> next time you put a 2
23:10 <luke-jr_> =p
23:10 <luke-jr_> still wouldn't be valid
23:10 <luke-jr_> it'd still be too short
23:10 <wrtlprnft> and why does sf flash while loading in opera if I'm logged in?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> ie it loads, then goes white, then loads again
23:11 <wrtlprnft> darn SF
23:11 <luke-jr_> likely unset image widths or such
23:11 * wrtlprnft avoids that site whenever possible since it sucks so mucj
23:11 <wrtlprnft> *much
23:11 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: opera can cope with those just fine
23:11 <wrtlprnft> it doesn
23:11 <luke-jr_> rendering on-the-fly always has issues tho
23:11 <wrtlprnft> 't rerender the page, it reloads it
23:12 <wrtlprnft> ah, there we go
23:12 <wrtlprnft> if i disable JS it doesn't
23:12 <wrtlprnft> so it's some broken JS
23:12 * wrtlprnft uses site- specific preferences to disallow JS on sourceforge, I don't wanna fix the broken script
23:13 <wrtlprnft> and how often is this thing gonna ask me to log in again?
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I added more information to the support request
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> as often as it wants. I try to avoid sf's site because it asks me to login just to wipe my ass
23:14 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: well, that's where you use a password manager
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> I do use a password manager, that's not the problem
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> the problem is that the login screen always takes me to my page after it's done, and I want the last page I was looking at
23:14 <wrtlprnft> true
23:14 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> "Do you have any toilet paper?"
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> "Prove that I know you!"
23:15 * Lucifer_arma proves it
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> "Now step into the kitchen and do what you wanted to do"
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> "But my pants are down around my ankles! Why can't I go back to the bathroom?"
23:15 <luke-jr_> ...
23:16 <Vanhayes> #nickometer
23:16 <Vanhayes> er
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's unloaded, Vanhayes
23:17 <Vanhayes> heh ya i remembered while i was typing it, ididnt mean to press enter tho
23:17 <wrtlprnft> #nickometer Lucifer_arma
23:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
23:17 <Vanhayes> #list alias
23:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, digg, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, svn, unlock, and wikipedia
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove nickometer
23:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no such alias.
23:17 <luke-jr_> lol
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> #list
23:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> #help nickometer
23:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no command "nickometer".
23:18 <luke-jr_> ROFL
23:18 <Vanhayes> heh happy hunting
23:18 <luke-jr_> #nickometer Lucifer_arma
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> #list User
23:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
23:18 <wrtlprnft> #nickometer wrtlprnft
23:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: How can you even think the nick wrtlprnft can be lame?
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> #list Herald
23:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, change, default, get, and remove
23:19 <Vanhayes> #herald get 1
23:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:19 <Vanhayes> bah
23:19 * wrtlprnft waits for Lucifer_arma to find out what wrtlprnft did
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> #list Markov
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'Markov' is not a valid plugin.
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> #list Games
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> #help eightball
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (eightball [<question>]) -- Ask a question and the answer shall be provided.
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball Lucifer_arma
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Naturally.
23:21 <wrtlprnft> #nickometer Oscilloscope
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> duh
23:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Oscilloscope is the lamest nick I've ever seen.
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> #list rss
23:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, announce, armaservers, armawiki, info, remove, and rss
23:21 <wrtlprnft> nah
23:22 <wrtlprnft> waaay simpler
23:22 <Vanhayes> announce?
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> #announce
23:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (announce <text>) -- Sends <text> to all channels the bot is currently on and not lobotomized in.
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, you have to be owner for that
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> #list
23:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> #list Unix
23:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: crypt, errno, fortune, pid, progstats, spell, and wtf
23:23 <philippeqc> #game coin
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> #list Misc
23:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
23:23 <Vanhayes> #coin
23:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, grepping the config file isn't turning it up
23:23 <philippeqc> #list games
23:23 <armabot> philippeqc: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
23:23 <philippeqc> #dice
23:23 <armabot> philippeqc: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
23:23 <philippeqc> #dice 3d7
23:23 <armabot> philippeqc: 5, 1, and 2
23:23 <wrtlprnft> /msg armabot alias add nickometer whatever you want it to say, then #nickometer <somenick>, then /msg armabot alias remove nickometer
23:23 <wrtlprnft> and all of that as fast as you can
23:23 <philippeqc> #eightball
23:23 <armabot> philippeqc: Yes!
23:23 <wrtlprnft> *echo whatever you want it to say
23:24 <philippeqc> #eightball
23:24 <armabot> philippeqc: About as likely as pigs flying.
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
23:24 <wrtlprnft> :P
23:24 * Lucifer_arma thought that was too much work for you
23:24 <wrtlprnft> but I only made it say true things )
23:24 <wrtlprnft> ;)
23:24 <wrtlprnft> that's not a lot of work if you use the history
23:25 <philippeqc> #eightball Is lucifer going to ask me out to the prom?
23:25 <armabot> philippeqc: You're kidding, right?
23:25 <philippeqc> lol
23:25 <wrtlprnft> #eightball is Lucifer_arma a lame nich?
23:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: You're kidding, right?
23:25 <wrtlprnft> #eightball is Lucifer_arma a lame nick?
23:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Unlikely.
23:25 <wrtlprnft> bah
23:25 <wrtlprnft> traitor
23:25 <Vanhayes> #eightball is armabot a lame nick?
23:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: Maybe...
23:26 <philippeqc> #eightball Tank was making a pass at Sabarai, does he have a chance?
23:26 <armabot> philippeqc: One would be wise to think so.
23:26 <Vanhayes> lol
23:26 <philippeqc> #eightball Will silly ever calm down?
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball does philippeqc like to surf?
23:26 <armabot> philippeqc: You know the answer better than I.
23:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No clue.
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball does philippeqc occasionally appear on VH1?
23:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Unlikely.
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball does philippeqc occasionally appear on MTV?
23:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I doubt it very much.
23:27 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as PsYk0
23:27 <PsYk0> #eightball do you hate me
23:27 <philippeqc> He, I was twice on MusiquePlus (our MTV in quebec)
23:27 <armabot> PsYk0: No clue.
23:27 -!- PsYk0 is now known as Lucifer_arma
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> did they ask you why you looked like pauly shore?
23:28 <madmax|pt> #eightball what do women think?
23:28 <armabot> madmax|pt: Come again?
23:28 <madmax|pt> #eightball what do women think?
23:28 <armabot> madmax|pt: Come again?
23:28 <madmax|pt> lol
23:28 <philippeqc> I didnt have pauly shore hair at the time
23:28 <Vanhayes> ha
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhhhhh
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> woohoo, 684 packages to emerge
23:29 <luke-jr_> lol
23:29 <philippeqc> #eightball Should I keep my career as a Pauly Shore look-alike?
23:29 <armabot> philippeqc: NO!
23:29 <philippeqc> lol
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> haha
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> smart robot!
23:29 <luke-jr_> #eightball should someone purchase Arma server hosting from me?
23:29 <armabot> luke-jr_: No.
23:29 <philippeqc> #eightball Will luci give me a break about the Pauly Shore thingy?
23:30 <armabot> philippeqc: No.
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball should philippeqc go into movies instead and make movies about frozen men?
23:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: You know the answer better than I.
23:30 <luke-jr_> armabot: liar
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> heh. Don't feel bad, philippeqc . I get mistaken for Jesus all the time!
23:30 <luke-jr_> pings on servers i host are < 100 ms :)
23:30 <philippeqc> luke, you have a dual cpu thingy, why dont you use it
23:30 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: ?
23:30 <philippeqc> luci, its ok, I was just out of idea.
23:31 <philippeqc> luke-jr_: didn you get a dual xeon box
23:31 <luke-jr_> yes
23:31 <philippeqc> there you are
23:31 <luke-jr_> it's now my primary webserver, mail server, DNS, etc...
23:31 <luke-jr_> there I am what? =p
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> I have a dual duron box. I made it with a hacksaw...
23:31 <philippeqc> its a dual half duron
23:32 <philippeqc> luke what more do you want? you have the computer, plus a fast connection
23:32 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: I'm looking for customers, not a host =p
23:32 <luke-jr_> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
23:32 <philippeqc> oooooooooooooooooooooo
23:32 <luke-jr_> and my home connection has pretty poor latency
23:32 <luke-jr_> but lightfoot is on a 9 Gbit backbone ;p
23:32 <philippeqc> o yeah, that is true
23:33 <luke-jr_> with quite low latency
23:33 <philippeqc> who is lightfoot
23:33 <luke-jr_> my rented server
23:33 <luke-jr_> colocated
23:33 <luke-jr_> that I'm using to host AA servers
23:33 <philippeqc> ok
23:33 <luke-jr_> see the webpage =p
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> that's a hell of a marketing page...
23:34 * Lucifer_arma notes that he used to do web marketing on a commission basis
23:34 <luke-jr_> I'm setting up an infrastructure for it to host multiple servers and have a web-based config
23:34 * Lucifer_arma further notes he doesn't do it anymore :)
23:34 <philippeqc> did you offer it to that kid that was asking about hosting in the us?
23:34 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: that's ok, cuz the prices aren't high enough that I can afford such =p
23:34 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: who?
23:35 <wrtlprnft> ?!
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> well then, that's a problem. :) Seen too many good business ideas go under because the prices weren't high enough to actually support them.
23:35 <wrtlprnft> for 15 bucks a month i get a good vserver
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and host however many players i like using whatever external sripts i want
23:36 * Lucifer_arma thinks the money to be made in game hosting is in integration with other software, not providing a box
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, you still have to provide the box, that's a given
23:36 <wrtlprnft> so, where's the web admin interface?
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> just that, like wrtlprnft points out, he can get a good vserver for pretty little
23:36 <philippeqc> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=67491#67491
23:36 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/aa-admin/edit.php is so far-- but it needs a login
23:36 <philippeqc> luke-jr_: ^^^
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> so you need things like clan support, tournaments, webpages, stat scripts, the whole 9 yards
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> resource repository for the community.....
23:37 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: planned
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> (your server's community, *not* the game community)
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> logs, detailed reporting on the logs
23:37 <wrtlprnft> maybe some kind of log parser?
23:37 <wrtlprnft> you know, have a filter that filters out certain bits
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, yeah, I'd consider that part of the reporting tool :)
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> and I don't just mean grep "OMG LAG" thelogs.log
23:38 <wrtlprnft> and we need a unified log format
23:38 <wrtlprnft> the one that isn't dependend on the language
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> I mean stuff like "Your server saw 16 unique names in the reporting period, 3 came form the same IP address"
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: agreed, wholeheartedly
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> the language dependnecy is the main reason I haven't written a log parser :)
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> actually, aadaemon's got it turned into regex's and is capable of filtering events into separate logs
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of which, luke-jr_: aadaemon handles some of that for you, you might give it a look
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> it's python, though
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it's in /private/Lucifer if you want to poke around it
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> it's a bit dated, it was last used on a 0.2.7.1 server
23:41 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I just finished writing a suite of scripts for user-level services
23:42 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=68211&highlight=1151623909#68211
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> is that silly's post?
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the one I just read :)
23:43 <wrtlprnft> no
23:43 <wrtlprnft> that's one of mine
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, I remember that one
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, the log right now is made by just grabbing cout and redirecting to a file
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> guru3's stat object work is supposed to give us a logging interface, afaik. I could be wrong bout that, though.
23:51 <wrtlprnft> well, you'd have to find the important places and add new calls that make the right logs
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> and a tPathLogs
23:51 <luke-jr_> I plan to prioritize AA code improvements to support my hosting services ;)
23:52 <luke-jr_> so if nobody else is alwady working on it, I'll probably get something working
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> I plan to prioritize AA code improvements on luke-jr_ annoyance, silly annoyance DESC
23:52 * Lucifer_arma steps out for a bit, bbiab
23:54 * wrtlprnft laughs at smokers wasting their time
23:54 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:54 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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