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[2024-01-20 09:07:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I don't think there's a non-commandline python installer for windows, but there are projects that use Inno to run a python script. You could theoretically use the portable winpython library to run an installation script, using the Inno installer to create the filestructure.
[2024-01-20 09:07:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I don't think there's a non-commandline python installer for windows, but there are projects that use Inno to run a python script. You could theoretically use the portable winpython library to run an installation script, using the Inno installer to create the filestructure.
[2024-01-20 09:07:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's an example of a standalone python application alongside Inno here: https://cyrille.rossant.net/create-a-standalone-windows-installer-for-your-python-application/
[2024-01-20 09:07:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's an example of a standalone python application alongside Inno here: https://cyrille.rossant.net/create-a-standalone-windows-installer-for-your-python-application/
[2024-01-20 09:08:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's not *quite* what you're after, but it might be adaptable enough to our requirements. You could even use the installer to launch a python script that *builds* armagetron in-situ, although that would take a little time and would require a number of other tools.
[2024-01-20 09:08:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's not *quite* what you're after, but it might be adaptable enough to our requirements. You could even use the installer to launch a python script that *builds* armagetron in-situ, although that would take a little time and would require a number of other tools.
[2024-01-20 11:43:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| the python installer accepts silent installation i believe
[2024-01-20 11:43:49] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| the python installer accepts silent installation i believe
[2024-01-20 11:44:12] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| the python installer on windows is a gui one
[2024-01-20 11:44:13] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| the python installer on windows is a gui one
[2024-01-20 11:44:28] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2024-01-20 11:44:28] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2024-01-20 11:45:01] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| yes i know that cmake can generate xcode, msvc project files
[2024-01-20 11:45:01] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| yes i know that cmake can generate xcode, msvc project files
[2024-01-20 16:18:49] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: All the installer builder scripts right now are shell/batch scripts. So yeah, Python should work fine for them, too. The Unix and macOS scripts rely on the autotools generated 'make install' to produce something sensible if you tell it to install into a custom root directory, they build from there.
[2024-01-20 16:18:49] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Lucifer_arma: All the installer builder scripts right now are shell/batch scripts. So yeah, Python should work fine for them, too. The Unix and macOS scripts rely on the autotools generated 'make install' to produce something sensible if you tell it to install into a custom root directory, they build from there.
[2024-01-20 16:19:24] <Z-Man> Apparently, cmake has support for building a couple of installers already: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/manual/cpack-generators.7.html#manual:cpack-generators(7) NSIS for Windows is one.
[2024-01-20 16:19:24] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Apparently, cmake has support for building a couple of installers already: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/manual/cpack-generators.7.html#manual:cpack-generators(7) NSIS for Windows is one.
[2024-01-20 16:20:30] <Z-Man> And a replacement for our current 'make install' would be `cmake --build . --target INSTALL`, according to this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48428647/how-to-use-cmake-to-install
[2024-01-20 16:20:30] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| And a replacement for our current 'make install' would be `cmake --build . --target INSTALL`, according to this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48428647/how-to-use-cmake-to-install
[2024-01-20 16:21:28] <Z-Man> I'm not too keen on replacing the existing shell scripts with python scripts. They don't have to do a lot of logic, but have to call a lot of external programs.
[2024-01-20 16:21:29] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| I'm not too keen on replacing the existing shell scripts with python scripts. They don't have to do a lot of logic, but have to call a lot of external programs.
[2024-01-20 16:22:32] <Z-Man> Of course, one thing I personally tend to do often in scripts of this kind, whenever I need to modify a file: I just call 'sed' with some replacements on it. Or write it in a here-document with variable substitutions. Those things are probably more elegant in Python.
[2024-01-20 16:22:33] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Of course, one thing I personally tend to do often in scripts of this kind, whenever I need to modify a file: I just call 'sed' with some replacements on it. Or write it in a here-document with variable substitutions. Those things are probably more elegant in Python.
[2024-01-20 16:25:19] <Z-Man> Cmake also supports DESTDIR, which is what is used in packaging a lot: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/envvar/DESTDIR.html I assume if you build makefiles via cmake, 'make install' already does what you expect.
[2024-01-20 16:25:19] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Cmake also supports DESTDIR, which is what is used in packaging a lot: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/envvar/DESTDIR.html I assume if you build makefiles via cmake, 'make install' already does what you expect.
[2024-01-20 16:26:26] <Z-Man> And CMake and Conan are both big on cross compilation. Essentially, you just give them a toolchain definition file and they stick to it.
[2024-01-20 16:26:26] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| And CMake and Conan are both big on cross compilation. Essentially, you just give them a toolchain definition file and they stick to it.
[2024-01-20 16:27:21] <Z-Man> Well, try to. When trying to do that to your Cerritos Engine, cross compiling from Linux to Windows, the toolchain was not properly passed along to a second level dependency. Nobody is perfect.
[2024-01-20 16:27:21] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Well, try to. When trying to do that to your Cerritos Engine, cross compiling from Linux to Windows, the toolchain was not properly passed along to a second level dependency. Nobody is perfect.
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[2024-01-20 22:31:55] <Lucifer_arma> well, the only reason for the python script to build the installers/distributables is because it would be cross platform. We would end up with the same series of commands in the instructions to build and install from source for every platform.
[2024-01-20 22:31:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, the only reason for the python script to build the installers/distributables is because it would be cross platform. We would end up with the same series of commands in the instructions to build and install from source for every platform.
[2024-01-20 22:32:32] <Lucifer_arma> even if all it did on some platforms was just invoke "make install" or "cmake --build --target install" like you have there
[2024-01-20 22:32:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| even if all it did on some platforms was just invoke "make install" or "cmake --build --target install" like you have there
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