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[2024-01-16 07:27:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @omniverideus I'm slowly rebuilding the portfolio in drips and drabs. About two thirds of the servers are restored, the rest will come soon
[2024-01-16 07:27:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @omniverideus I'm slowly rebuilding the portfolio in drips and drabs. About two thirds of the servers are restored, the rest will come soon
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[2024-01-16 07:39:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| guru3: Speaking of dukevin's servers, one of those was tunnel trouble. In the config for that server, I found a couple of very lightly-documented options. Did `MAP_ROTATION` etcetera stay in the main trunk?
[2024-01-16 07:39:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| guru3: Speaking of dukevin's servers, one of those was tunnel trouble. In the config for that server, I found a couple of very lightly-documented options. Did `MAP_ROTATION` etcetera stay in the main trunk?
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[2024-01-16 08:41:53] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| i think you're mixing up dukevin and kevinh again
[2024-01-16 08:41:53] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i think you're mixing up dukevin and kevinh again
[2024-01-16 08:42:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ah fuck
[2024-01-16 08:42:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ah fuck
[2024-01-16 08:42:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| four hours kip
[2024-01-16 08:42:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| four hours kip
[2024-01-16 08:58:57] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| @monkey_arma 1) As far as I am concerned, 0.4 is supposed to be the future.
[2024-01-16 08:58:57] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| @monkey_arma 1) As far as I am concerned, 0.4 is supposed to be the future.
[2024-01-16 08:58:57] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| 2) Tons. True type fonts, cockpits, protobuf networking, zones2. Though I'm not sure how much of the internal zones2 logic is going to stick around anyway, nobody knows how to do anything useful with it.
[2024-01-16 08:58:58] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| 2) Tons. True type fonts, cockpits, protobuf networking, zones2. Though I'm not sure how much of the internal zones2 logic is going to stick around anyway, nobody knows how to do anything useful with it.
[2024-01-16 08:58:59] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| 3) Yes, please, git for everything. 0.2.8.3, 0.2.9, 0.4, sty+ct+ap. Central source of truth for our branches is the Gitlab project.
[2024-01-16 08:58:59] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| 3) Yes, please, git for everything. 0.2.8.3, 0.2.9, 0.4, sty+ct+ap. Central source of truth for our branches is the Gitlab project.
[2024-01-16 11:00:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i like notepad++ and pluma
[2024-01-16 11:00:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i like notepad++ and pluma
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[2024-01-16 16:00:26] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| @wwnelg @dukevin Want me to help get legacy_0.2.9 and sty+ct+ap back together, and get regular client builds for all platforms going? https://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=40635
[2024-01-16 16:00:26] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| @wwnelg @dukevin Want me to help get legacy_0.2.9 and sty+ct+ap back together, and get regular client builds for all platforms going? https://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=40635
[2024-01-16 16:47:53] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Huh. I just actually tried the client for the first time, and I have to say, it is quite impressive.
[2024-01-16 16:47:53] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Huh. I just actually tried the client for the first time, and I have to say, it is quite impressive.
[2024-01-16 16:48:02] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| really?
[2024-01-16 16:48:03] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| really?
[2024-01-16 16:48:38] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Yeah, I definitely want everyone to get easy access to it without compiling stuff.
[2024-01-16 16:48:39] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Yeah, I definitely want everyone to get easy access to it without compiling stuff.
[2024-01-16 16:48:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| im looking at issues and merge requests, some things are doable or already done by now
[2024-01-16 16:48:55] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| im looking at issues and merge requests, some things are doable or already done by now
[2024-01-16 17:10:32] <Z-Man> Editor wise, I used to be an emacs guy, probably because the big editor on the Amiga was MicroEmacs. And, of course, I used emacs-likes like jed when on the terminal. Tried some full IDEs in between, like Eclipse, Code::Blocks and QTCreator, none stuck. These days, I think I'm pretty much settled on Visual Studio Code on one end (where even rarely used functions are easy to find) and nvim with tons of customized extensions on the other, 
[2024-01-16 17:10:32] <Z-Man> where the things I do often are at most three keystrokes away, and I get all the modern trappings like code completion, code browsing and debugging with the speed of a terminal editor, all without forcing your projects into any specific structure. Though using cmake helps a lot.
[2024-01-16 17:10:32] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Editor wise, I used to be an emacs guy, probably because the big editor on the Amiga was MicroEmacs. And, of course, I used emacs-likes like jed when on the terminal. Tried some full IDEs in between, like Eclipse, Code::Blocks and QTCreator, none stuck. These days, I think I'm pretty much settled on Visual Studio Code on one end (where even rarely used functions are easy to find) <clipped message>
[2024-01-16 17:10:32] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man|  and nvim with tons of customized extensions on the other,
[2024-01-16 17:10:33] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| where the things I do often are at most three keystrokes away, and I get all the modern trappings like code completion, code browsing and debugging with the speed of a terminal editor, all without forcing your projects into any specific structure. Though using cmake helps a lot.
[2024-01-16 17:17:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| oh cool
[2024-01-16 17:17:55] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| oh cool
[2024-01-16 17:18:02] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about mac?
[2024-01-16 17:18:03] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about mac?
[2024-01-16 17:18:04] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| no xcode
[2024-01-16 17:18:04] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| no xcode
[2024-01-16 17:18:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| for armagetronad it seems
[2024-01-16 17:18:19] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| for armagetronad it seems
[2024-01-16 17:18:31] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i dont have a mac with homebrew nor macports
[2024-01-16 17:18:31] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i dont have a mac with homebrew nor macports
[2024-01-16 17:18:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| no plans to install either
[2024-01-16 17:18:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| no plans to install either
[2024-01-16 17:57:46] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| @Juesto there are probably some ancient xcode project files somewhere, although I can't immediately find them. In any case, you're welcome to try to get it building with xcode
[2024-01-16 17:57:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| @Juesto there are probably some ancient xcode project files somewhere, although I can't immediately find them. In any case, you're welcome to try to get it building with xcode
[2024-01-16 18:02:13] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| 14 years old but they're removed on the newer branches, its the MacOSX folder and it requires changing the library mappings altogether
[2024-01-16 18:02:13] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| 14 years old but they're removed on the newer branches, its the MacOSX folder and it requires changing the library mappings altogether
[2024-01-16 18:13:58] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its there on release 0.2.9 but removed from branches afterwards
[2024-01-16 18:13:58] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its there on release 0.2.9 but removed from branches afterwards
[2024-01-16 18:17:19] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Getting library dependencies set up is a pain on Windows and macOS. On Windows, we have the winlibs package. On macOS, there was something similar for the XCode build, but I'm pretty sure it would no longer work. Hence, homebrew. Makes it as easy as on any Linux, and the result is distributable and runs on standard macOS, unlike macports.
[2024-01-16 18:17:19] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Getting library dependencies set up is a pain on Windows and macOS. On Windows, we have the winlibs package. On macOS, there was something similar for the XCode build, but I'm pretty sure it would no longer work. Hence, homebrew. Makes it as easy as on any Linux, and the result is distributable and runs on standard macOS, unlike macports.
[2024-01-16 18:17:45] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| I'm only happy on macOS because I can turn it quite a lot into Linux 🙂
[2024-01-16 18:17:45] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| I'm only happy on macOS because I can turn it quite a lot into Linux 🙂
[2024-01-16 18:19:41] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| lol
[2024-01-16 18:19:41] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| lol
[2024-01-16 18:19:56] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| not willing to maintain macos libraries eh?
[2024-01-16 18:19:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| not willing to maintain macos libraries eh?
[2024-01-16 18:20:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| tell me what is needed and i can see other ways of getting it and put it into xcode
[2024-01-16 18:20:16] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| tell me what is needed and i can see other ways of getting it and put it into xcode
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