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[2024-01-14 02:42:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I actually don't mind the countdown. I replaced the number sounds with a clock "tick" and a short "beep" for GO, and it's really the best, least distracting way to keep the functional part of the sound event without having them overlap weirdly.
[2024-01-14 02:42:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I actually don't mind the countdown. I replaced the number sounds with a clock "tick" and a short "beep" for GO, and it's really the best, least distracting way to keep the functional part of the sound event without having them overlap weirdly.
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[2024-01-14 13:51:39] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| @zman_0 how far from release is the mac version?
[2024-01-14 13:51:39] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| @zman_0 how far from release is the mac version?
[2024-01-14 14:33:53] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| @Juesto There are no currently known issues. I just started the release process by merging to the beta_0.2.9 branch, I just haven't gotten around to announcing it 🙂
[2024-01-14 14:33:53] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| @Juesto There are no currently known issues. I just started the release process by merging to the beta_0.2.9 branch, I just haven't gotten around to announcing it 🙂
[2024-01-14 14:35:46] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Lucifer_arma: We could decouple the timing of the countdown sound from the actual timer. That would make it wrong, but maybe that is better?
[2024-01-14 14:35:46] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Lucifer_arma: We could decouple the timing of the countdown sound from the actual timer. That would make it wrong, but maybe that is better?
[2024-01-14 14:41:31] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| @amazing_stories I'm not doing much backporting. I'm still pretending to myself that 0.4 is going to get released and take over and that any backporting therefore would be futile.
[2024-01-14 14:41:32] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| @amazing_stories I'm not doing much backporting. I'm still pretending to myself that 0.4 is going to get released and take over and that any backporting therefore would be futile.
[2024-01-14 14:41:32] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Of course, we should be open to admitting that in fact sty+ct+ap is the future (I mean, serverside, they already rule the world) and throw everything of use into that branch, bury the rest.
[2024-01-14 14:41:32] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Of course, we should be open to admitting that in fact sty+ct+ap is the future (I mean, serverside, they already rule the world) and throw everything of use into that branch, bury the rest.
[2024-01-14 14:41:33] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| We already concluded that should a move to a proper engine happen, much of the new stuff in 0.4 is obsolete anyway. (But such a move would not be accepted, I don't think. It is impossible to keep the feel of the game intact. The camera will behave ever so slightly differently, even if we take over all of the quirky equations from the current camera.)
[2024-01-14 14:41:33] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| We already concluded that should a move to a proper engine happen, much of the new stuff in 0.4 is obsolete anyway. (But such a move would not be accepted, I don't think. It is impossible to keep the feel of the game intact. The camera will behave ever so slightly differently, even if we take over all of the quirky equations from the current camera.)
[2024-01-14 14:48:28] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ah thanks
[2024-01-14 14:48:28] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ah thanks
[2024-01-14 14:49:25] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| so no improvements, the standard has been established and very little changes should be done?
[2024-01-14 14:49:26] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| so no improvements, the standard has been established and very little changes should be done?
[2024-01-14 14:51:17] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about making sty+ct+ap the default armagetronad experience then?
[2024-01-14 14:51:17] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about making sty+ct+ap the default armagetronad experience then?
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[2024-01-14 16:12:25] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Could happen. I plan to re-fork it myself, with merge fixes (they borked the formatting of some files a while back, making all merges with 0.2.9 painful to impossible; I worked out how to mend that) and where the builds don't break. From there, it would be only a tiny step to publish these builds along with the others.
[2024-01-14 16:12:26] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Could happen. I plan to re-fork it myself, with merge fixes (they borked the formatting of some files a while back, making all merges with 0.2.9 painful to impossible; I worked out how to mend that) and where the builds don't break. From there, it would be only a tiny step to publish these builds along with the others.
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[2024-01-14 16:23:42] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| Excellent!
[2024-01-14 16:23:43] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| Excellent!
[2024-01-14 16:24:15] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| now the question is when
[2024-01-14 16:24:15] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| now the question is when
[2024-01-14 19:48:14] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| 2026
[2024-01-14 19:48:14] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| 2026
[2024-01-14 19:48:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| 😛
[2024-01-14 19:48:31] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| 😛
[2024-01-14 20:37:56] <-- DruidMonroe has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[2024-01-14 22:04:49] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| really? :|
[2024-01-14 22:04:49] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| really? :|
[2024-01-14 22:47:21] <Lucifer_arma> 2026 is hopelessly optimistic
[2024-01-14 22:47:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| 2026 is hopelessly optimistic
[2024-01-14 22:48:17] <Lucifer_arma> I'm not willing to concede, necessarily, not that it's a competition.  There's been enough cross-pollinization that I honesly think we can still assimilate sty+blah into 0.4.
[2024-01-14 22:48:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm not willing to concede, necessarily, not that it's a competition.  There's been enough cross-pollinization that I honesly think we can still assimilate sty+blah into 0.4.
[2024-01-14 22:48:49] <Lucifer_arma> I've definitely decided to put lua in there and remove the ruby stuff (it doesn't work anyway), and I think most/all of what's in sty+blah can be done with proper lua hooks
[2024-01-14 22:48:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've definitely decided to put lua in there and remove the ruby stuff (it doesn't work anyway), and I think most/all of what's in sty+blah can be done with proper lua hooks
[2024-01-14 22:49:28] <Lucifer_arma> I just happen to be in a sad position where I really need to get some new source of income or I won't be able to make rent next month (or I will, but I won't make bills right after that)
[2024-01-14 22:49:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I just happen to be in a sad position where I really need to get some new source of income or I won't be able to make rent next month (or I will, but I won't make bills right after that)
[2024-01-14 22:50:46] <Lucifer_arma> adding lua won't be terribly difficult, since this is exactly what it's designed for.  I'll make a singleton class for the lua instance, and then it can be dropped anywhere it's needed.
[2024-01-14 22:50:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| adding lua won't be terribly difficult, since this is exactly what it's designed for.  I'll make a singleton class for the lua instance, and then it can be dropped anywhere it's needed.
[2024-01-14 22:51:06] <Lucifer_arma> being a tiny c library, it's the fastest scripting language we can integrate, and it's literally designed to be an embedded language
[2024-01-14 22:51:07] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| being a tiny c library, it's the fastest scripting language we can integrate, and it's literally designed to be an embedded language
[2024-01-14 22:52:19] <Lucifer_arma> I want to round up all the current "scripting" hooks we have (executing external scripts) and turn the hooks themselves into lua scripts.  Then, whatever external scripts people have written can be replaced with new lua scripts that'll run better/faster/hopefully
[2024-01-14 22:52:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I want to round up all the current "scripting" hooks we have (executing external scripts) and turn the hooks themselves into lua scripts.  Then, whatever external scripts people have written can be replaced with new lua scripts that'll run better/faster/hopefully
[2024-01-14 22:53:35] <Lucifer_arma> Then I want to add a generic object infrastructure that can be used to make things like balls and flags and stuff, and just add lua hooks to everything.  That'll give us CTF.
[2024-01-14 22:53:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Then I want to add a generic object infrastructure that can be used to make things like balls and flags and stuff, and just add lua hooks to everything.  That'll give us CTF.
[2024-01-14 22:54:32] <Lucifer_arma> after the first couple of hours (read: days of hours) of getting the first round of hooks working, the rest should nearly write themselves
[2024-01-14 22:54:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| after the first couple of hours (read: days of hours) of getting the first round of hooks working, the rest should nearly write themselves
[2024-01-14 22:56:19] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: @zman_0: I'm not willing to do anything to "fix" the countdown because I don't think it's broken, necessarily.  It was a nice idea, I thought, mostly because it was mine (the audio part, anyway).  I think the decision is to either put the Final Decided Upon Sounds in, or remove the audio.
[2024-01-14 22:56:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Z-Man: @zman_0: I'm not willing to do anything to "fix" the countdown because I don't think it's broken, necessarily.  It was a nice idea, I thought, mostly because it was mine (the audio part, anyway).  I think the decision is to either put the Final Decided Upon Sounds in, or remove the audio.
[2024-01-14 22:56:47] <Lucifer_arma> the current sounds were always just a placeholder, just like the music that's there right now, created just to make the code work that implemented it
[2024-01-14 22:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the current sounds were always just a placeholder, just like the music that's there right now, created just to make the code work that implemented it
[2024-01-14 23:00:32] <Lucifer_arma> I was looking through everything back in November, but I was kinda busy with some other things at the time, and the time off I took at work ended up being taken up entirely by Landru/writing, so I didn't find the arma time I was hoping for
[2024-01-14 23:00:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was looking through everything back in November, but I was kinda busy with some other things at the time, and the time off I took at work ended up being taken up entirely by Landru/writing, so I didn't find the arma time I was hoping for
[2024-01-14 23:00:42] <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to take some more time off soon, but I might be spending that time looking for a job.
[2024-01-14 23:00:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm going to take some more time off soon, but I might be spending that time looking for a job.
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