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[2023-12-04 04:56:15] <Lucifer_arma> it's kind of silly to get bored at freeciv, so you build a spaceship just to end the game
[2023-12-04 04:56:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's kind of silly to get bored at freeciv, so you build a spaceship just to end the game
[2023-12-04 08:06:39] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| oh i like some of those, the tech giants could be teams with their programs for example
[2023-12-04 08:06:39] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| oh i like some of those, the tech giants could be teams with their programs for example
[2023-12-04 08:10:27] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| and then they can do capture the flag like stealing their fancy code from their city in a heist and escape with light cycles
[2023-12-04 08:10:27] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| and then they can do capture the flag like stealing their fancy code from their city in a heist and escape with light cycles
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[2023-12-04 16:40:33] <Lucifer_arma> ooo, they should reverse the original story.  Instead of a user getting digitized and having to find his way out, the programs should break out into the real world and start wreaking havoc
[2023-12-04 16:40:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ooo, they should reverse the original story.  Instead of a user getting digitized and having to find his way out, the programs should break out into the real world and start wreaking havoc
[2023-12-04 16:40:48] <Lucifer_arma> make it a unique sort of AI apocalpyse story
[2023-12-04 16:40:49] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| make it a unique sort of AI apocalpyse story
[2023-12-04 16:41:13] <Lucifer_arma> so, a few malicious AIs manage to 3d print themselves and go on a crime spree of some sort
[2023-12-04 16:41:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so, a few malicious AIs manage to 3d print themselves and go on a crime spree of some sort
[2023-12-04 16:41:24] <Lucifer_arma> So TRON follows them and hunts them down
[2023-12-04 16:41:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| So TRON follows them and hunts them down
[2023-12-04 16:42:32] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:raph.2| Sounds like Westworld
[2023-12-04 16:42:32] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:raph.2| Sounds like Westworld
[2023-12-04 16:43:30] <Lucifer_arma> westworld was an amusement park.  I'm thinking more like Demolition Man, except instead of cryo prisoners, it's programs
[2023-12-04 16:43:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| westworld was an amusement park.  I'm thinking more like Demolition Man, except instead of cryo prisoners, it's programs
[2023-12-04 16:48:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Haven't they already let a program out? That cora/korra/qorra girl was a program, right?
[2023-12-04 16:48:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Haven't they already let a program out? That cora/korra/qorra girl was a program, right?
[2023-12-04 20:06:17] <Lucifer_arma> grrrr.  Why does deploying an app to android have to be such a pain?
[2023-12-04 20:06:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| grrrr.  Why does deploying an app to android have to be such a pain?
[2023-12-04 20:07:31] <Lucifer_arma> I guess the real question is this:  Is building a package for android any more difficult/unnecessarily difficult than building a .deb or .rpm?
[2023-12-04 20:07:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I guess the real question is this:  Is building a package for android any more difficult/unnecessarily difficult than building a .deb or .rpm?
[2023-12-04 22:17:17] <Lucifer_arma> serious question:  If a person isn't authorized to access a page, is it better security to return a 404 page, or return a "User not authorized" page?
[2023-12-04 22:17:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| serious question:  If a person isn't authorized to access a page, is it better security to return a 404 page, or return a "User not authorized" page?
[2023-12-04 22:18:16] <Lucifer_arma> for debugging reasons, for now, I'm going to go with the user not authorized, but my gut says the 404 is better.  A malicious user doesn't need to have confirmation that the url is valid, and an unauthorized user doesn't need to know the url exists either
[2023-12-04 22:18:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| for debugging reasons, for now, I'm going to go with the user not authorized, but my gut says the 404 is better.  A malicious user doesn't need to have confirmation that the url is valid, and an unauthorized user doesn't need to know the url exists either
[2023-12-04 22:38:02] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Light| You basically answered yourself. A 404 will make the destination appear invalid while an unauthorized message would give you the idea you could unlock something there. Of course, it depends on what it is. If a regular user may run into it, you may want them to see that they should log in rather than make it seem like the page doesn't exist.
[2023-12-04 22:38:02] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Light| You basically answered yourself. A 404 will make the destination appear invalid while an unauthorized message would give you the idea you could unlock something there. Of course, it depends on what it is. If a regular user may run into it, you may want them to see that they should log in rather than make it seem like the page doesn't exist.
[2023-12-04 22:39:59] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Light| Unless someone specifically targets you though, bots are your most likely attackers, and just having a generally secure site will be fine. The above isn't really additional security, but may trick some users / bots into ditching parts of the site.
[2023-12-04 22:39:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Light| Unless someone specifically targets you though, bots are your most likely attackers, and just having a generally secure site will be fine. The above isn't really additional security, but may trick some users / bots into ditching parts of the site.
[2023-12-04 22:41:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Light| From my experience, the biggest things bots and script kiddies like to attack with are SQL injection and file paths to try and pull passwd files and whatnot.
[2023-12-04 22:41:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Light| From my experience, the biggest things bots and script kiddies like to attack with are SQL injection and file paths to try and pull passwd files and whatnot.
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