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[2023-11-28 02:10:01] <Lucifer_arma> now I have a password recovery hash.  What next?  :/
[2023-11-28 02:10:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| now I have a password recovery hash.  What next?  :/
[2023-11-28 02:14:11] <Lucifer_arma> question for anybody who wants to answer it
[2023-11-28 02:14:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| question for anybody who wants to answer it
[2023-11-28 02:14:47] <Lucifer_arma> since locking out a user account after a few password fails is the best way to stop numerous attacks, what kind of policies do you, as users, find reasonable?
[2023-11-28 02:14:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| since locking out a user account after a few password fails is the best way to stop numerous attacks, what kind of policies do you, as users, find reasonable?
[2023-11-28 02:15:18] <Lucifer_arma> For example: three failed attempts in 5 minutes.  10 failed attempts in 24 hours.  20 total failed attempts.
[2023-11-28 02:15:18] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| For example: three failed attempts in 5 minutes.  10 failed attempts in 24 hours.  20 total failed attempts.
[2023-11-28 02:16:01] <Lucifer_arma> I figure that a failure should trigger an email with a password recovery link in it, but those often get sorted into a bad place.  So what do you like to see when you are locked out?
[2023-11-28 02:16:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I figure that a failure should trigger an email with a password recovery link in it, but those often get sorted into a bad place.  So what do you like to see when you are locked out?
[2023-11-28 02:17:02] <Lucifer_arma> I'm not in a hurry to implement anything yet, I'm just thinking about it since I'm doing password recovery stuff, so I'm thinking about security
[2023-11-28 02:17:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm not in a hurry to implement anything yet, I'm just thinking about it since I'm doing password recovery stuff, so I'm thinking about security
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[2023-11-28 04:59:05] <Lucifer_arma> well, it was a nice idea.  I need a mail server now.  I'll worry about that tomorrow.
[2023-11-28 04:59:05] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, it was a nice idea.  I need a mail server now.  I'll worry about that tomorrow.
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[2023-11-28 07:58:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Reason I suggested mailcow is because it takes the bleh out of configuring a mailbox. 
[2023-11-28 07:58:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Reason I suggested mailcow is because it takes the bleh out of configuring a mailbox. 
[2023-11-28 07:58:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also, don't trigger a recovery email until the user requests one, and don't directly confirm whether or not a request for a recovery email was successful. The former triggers a process that may not be necessary and thus exposes the user to compromise, the latter prevents the recovery feature being misused to confirm the existence of an account attached to an email
[2023-11-28 07:58:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also, don't trigger a recovery email until the user requests one, and don't directly confirm whether or not a request for a recovery email was successful. The former triggers a process that may not be necessary and thus exposes the user to compromise, the latter prevents the recovery feature being misused to confirm the existence of an account attached to an email
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[2023-11-28 16:49:04] <Lucifer_arma> Yeah, this isn't my first rodeo :)
[2023-11-28 16:49:05] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Yeah, this isn't my first rodeo :)
[2023-11-28 16:49:52] <Lucifer_arma> I also require the user to type in their email address on the password recovery link.  It's a little bit of protection, but it's more than I see on other sites
[2023-11-28 16:49:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I also require the user to type in their email address on the password recovery link.  It's a little bit of protection, but it's more than I see on other sites
[2023-11-28 18:11:58] <Lucifer_arma> ok, why is postfix not making log entries?
[2023-11-28 18:11:58] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, why is postfix not making log entries?
[2023-11-28 18:24:51] <Lucifer_arma> got that fixed
[2023-11-28 18:24:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| got that fixed
[2023-11-28 19:03:47] <Lucifer_arma> damn, I'm foiled by the need for a PTR record, which costs money I don't have right now
[2023-11-28 19:03:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| damn, I'm foiled by the need for a PTR record, which costs money I don't have right now
[2023-11-28 19:05:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Grab an AWS machine (I know, I know, amazon), which you can do for free for a year. It comes wiht (as far as I know) free PTR/RR functionality
[2023-11-28 19:05:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Grab an AWS machine (I know, I know, amazon), which you can do for free for a year. It comes wiht (as far as I know) free PTR/RR functionality
[2023-11-28 19:06:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| then proxy forward all your requests through it with apache
[2023-11-28 19:06:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| then proxy forward all your requests through it with apache
[2023-11-28 20:02:08] <Lucifer_arma> I got it working, sorta.  My mail server can send mail just fine.  I disabled ipv6 for that.  Apparently PTR records are only for ipv6.  I have all the ipv4 stuff setup
[2023-11-28 20:02:25] <Lucifer_arma> now the problem is getting my web app on my local computer to connect to the mailserver and send mail
[2023-11-28 20:03:41] <Lucifer_arma> I don't really need password recovery right now, because I'm the only user and I have access to the database directly :)
[2023-11-28 20:04:24] <Lucifer_arma> what I'm trying to setup is my local postfix should connect to the remote on my mail server, so that any emails sent from the local machine will be sent
[2023-11-28 20:04:38] <Lucifer_arma> that'll give my cluster the ability to send emails, which it needs.
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[2023-11-28 20:05:46] <Lucifer_arma> so that's the link that's failing right now, and I don't have any clue where to start.  Do I setup aliases on the remote so that all mail sent from the local postfix uses one remote account?
[2023-11-28 20:06:01] <Lucifer_arma> is that even how it works?  It's been a *long* time since I managed my own postfix server
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[2023-11-28 20:07:16] <Lucifer_arma> so I need to setup the remote postfix to act as a relay for the local postfix.  I *think* I have that setup, but I have no way to verify it, since it's not working
[2023-11-28 20:07:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so I need to setup the remote postfix to act as a relay for the local postfix.  I *think* I have that setup, but I have no way to verify it, since it's not working
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[2023-11-28 20:14:00] <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's trying to say my user is dave@Ghostwheel to gmail.  It's not rewriting that to dave@davefancella.com
[2023-11-28 20:14:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, it's trying to say my user is dave@Ghostwheel to gmail.  It's not rewriting that to dave@davefancella.com
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[2023-11-28 20:41:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ptr records are definitely required for IPv4. Most larger mail providers will reject any mail that doesn't come from an address with an appropriate ptr record
[2023-11-28 20:41:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ptr records are definitely required for IPv4. Most larger mail providers will reject any mail that doesn't come from an address with an appropriate ptr record
[2023-11-28 20:43:33] <Lucifer_arma> I've got spf and dkim.  I can send mail from the mail server to gmail just fine.
[2023-11-28 20:43:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've got spf and dkim.  I can send mail from the mail server to gmail just fine.
[2023-11-28 20:44:04] <Lucifer_arma> the mail server is relaying mails sent form my local postfix, as well
[2023-11-28 20:44:05] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the mail server is relaying mails sent form my local postfix, as well
[2023-11-28 20:44:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| weird. Maybe a policy change happened. What about yahoo and hotmail?
[2023-11-28 20:44:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| weird. Maybe a policy change happened. What about yahoo and hotmail?
[2023-11-28 20:44:35] <Lucifer_arma> the problem I'm having is that gmail is trying to do a reverse lookup on dave@Ghostwheel (my local computer) instead of the relay
[2023-11-28 20:44:36] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the problem I'm having is that gmail is trying to do a reverse lookup on dave@Ghostwheel (my local computer) instead of the relay
[2023-11-28 20:44:53] <Lucifer_arma> so I need to get the relay to tell gmail somehow that it should be checking the relay, not the actual source
[2023-11-28 20:44:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so I need to get the relay to tell gmail somehow that it should be checking the relay, not the actual source
[2023-11-28 20:45:49] <Lucifer_arma> I've got opendkim installed for the signing, and I'm using dovecot for the sasl auth
[2023-11-28 20:45:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've got opendkim installed for the signing, and I'm using dovecot for the sasl auth
[2023-11-28 20:46:19] <Lucifer_arma> so my config is broken either in postfix itself, or opendkim
[2023-11-28 20:46:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so my config is broken either in postfix itself, or opendkim
[2023-11-28 20:46:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I've pinged someone in the sysadmin irc who set up a relay. I don't think I've ever done that specifically
[2023-11-28 20:46:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I've pinged someone in the sysadmin irc who set up a relay. I don't think I've ever done that specifically
[2023-11-28 20:47:52] <Lucifer_arma> I had a relay setup a long time ago, before all these new solutions to spam appeared.  If this were 2008, it'd be working fine :)
[2023-11-28 20:47:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I had a relay setup a long time ago, before all these new solutions to spam appeared.  If this were 2008, it'd be working fine :)
[2023-11-28 20:49:50] <Lucifer_arma> after all this, I still need to setup dovecot to be my imap/pop3 server.  Since google made google domains a pay only service, I can't receive email to my domain until I do that
[2023-11-28 20:49:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| after all this, I still need to setup dovecot to be my imap/pop3 server.  Since google made google domains a pay only service, I can't receive email to my domain until I do that
[2023-11-28 21:03:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| @northernscrub oh where?
[2023-11-28 21:03:17] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| @northernscrub oh where?
[2023-11-28 21:05:54] <DruidMonr0e> Juesto: #reddit-syadmin - but be warned, they can be crotchety with newcomers. Lurk for a bit first
[2023-11-28 21:05:55] <armagetron-bridge> 03irc:DruidMonr0e| Juesto: #reddit-syadmin - but be warned, they can be crotchety with newcomers. Lurk for a bit first
[2023-11-28 21:06:52] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| reddit, really?
[2023-11-28 21:06:52] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| reddit, really?
[2023-11-28 21:07:04] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| thought it would be like a more independent sysadmin community
[2023-11-28 21:07:04] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| thought it would be like a more independent sysadmin community
[2023-11-28 21:07:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| in oftc?
[2023-11-28 21:07:11] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| in oftc?
[2023-11-28 21:07:18] <DruidMonr0e> it's only a reddit community by name tbh
[2023-11-28 21:07:19] <armagetron-bridge> 03irc:DruidMonr0e| it's only a reddit community by name tbh
[2023-11-28 21:07:22] <DruidMonr0e> no, libera
[2023-11-28 21:07:23] <armagetron-bridge> 03irc:DruidMonr0e| no, libera
[2023-11-28 21:07:52] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i see
[2023-11-28 21:07:53] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i see
[2023-11-28 21:08:14] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| sorry, the bridge isnt easy to tell what network one is talking from
[2023-11-28 21:08:15] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| sorry, the bridge isnt easy to tell what network one is talking from
[2023-11-28 21:08:33] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i mean its impossible to tell, just prefixes with irc
[2023-11-28 21:08:33] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i mean its impossible to tell, just prefixes with irc
[2023-11-28 21:08:55] <DruidMonr0e> Should I change it? Or is it not that important
[2023-11-28 21:08:55] <armagetron-bridge> 03irc:DruidMonr0e| Should I change it? Or is it not that important
[2023-11-28 21:10:22] <Lucifer_arma> if you change it, you need to change the bot name to make it *much* shorter :)
[2023-11-28 21:10:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| if you change it, you need to change the bot name to make it *much* shorter :)
[2023-11-28 21:11:37] <DruidMonr0e> I do wish the protocol had been updated over the years. It's kind of annoying not to be able to use webhooks or some similar approach to change the name of the bot depending on the speaker
[2023-11-28 21:11:37] <armagetron-bridge> 03irc:DruidMonr0e| I do wish the protocol had been updated over the years. It's kind of annoying not to be able to use webhooks or some similar approach to change the name of the bot depending on the speaker
[2023-11-28 21:11:40] <DruidMonr0e> we can do that on discord
[2023-11-28 21:11:41] <armagetron-bridge> 03irc:DruidMonr0e| we can do that on discord
[2023-11-28 21:11:49] <Lucifer_arma> right now, the timestamp + botname + username coming from the bridge takes up 25% of the horizontal real estate.  If you add network + channel to that, it'll probably push it all the way to half the size of the message
[2023-11-28 21:11:49] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| right now, the timestamp + botname + username coming from the bridge takes up 25% of the horizontal real estate.  If you add network + channel to that, it'll probably push it all the way to half the size of the message
[2023-11-28 21:12:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is how the naming schema works on discord Lucifer_arma
[2023-11-28 21:12:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1179243526136012890/Capture.PNG?ex=6579131d&is=65669e1d&hm=3ad960d32273808e5fde57a2d74ad3a06377473a4d29bae25d0b816584059772&
[2023-11-28 21:12:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is how the naming schema works on discord Lucifer_arma
[2023-11-28 21:12:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1179243526136012890/Capture.PNG?ex=6579131d&is=65669e1d&hm=3ad960d32273808e5fde57a2d74ad3a06377473a4d29bae25d0b816584059772&
[2023-11-28 21:13:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya, that's the part I don't like. If I could rename "armagetron-bridge" to the username of the speaker every time it would be much cleaner
[2023-11-28 21:13:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya, that's the part I don't like. If I could rename "armagetron-bridge" to the username of the speaker every time it would be much cleaner
[2023-11-28 21:14:00] <Lucifer_arma> it would be ideal if the bot could create a new user in the channel for each user in each other connected channel
[2023-11-28 21:14:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it would be ideal if the bot could create a new user in the channel for each user in each other connected channel
[2023-11-28 21:14:14] <Lucifer_arma> I know that's possible, but that's all I know
[2023-11-28 21:14:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I know that's possible, but that's all I know
[2023-11-28 21:14:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it would get insta kicked for flooding
[2023-11-28 21:14:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it would get insta kicked for flooding
[2023-11-28 21:14:27] <Lucifer_arma> I've actually been tempted to write my own
[2023-11-28 21:14:27] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've actually been tempted to write my own
[2023-11-28 21:15:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the reason, though, that I include "irc" or "discord" before the username in IRC is because there are two IRC networks linked together. Although now that I think abotu it, that doesn't really matter, does it? Perhaps I can remove the network indicator on the IRC side
[2023-11-28 21:15:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the reason, though, that I include "irc" or "discord" before the username in IRC is because there are two IRC networks linked together. Although now that I think abotu it, that doesn't really matter, does it? Perhaps I can remove the network indicator on the IRC side
[2023-11-28 21:16:32] <Lucifer_arma> no, we need to know where people are coming from
[2023-11-28 21:16:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| no, we need to know where people are coming from
[2023-11-28 21:17:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| across IRC, nto really - all you need do is mention their nick. On discord, perhaps we can have an abbreviated indicator
[2023-11-28 21:17:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| across IRC, nto really - all you need do is mention their nick. On discord, perhaps we can have an abbreviated indicator
[2023-11-28 21:17:18] <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to also see what channel they're in.  If I wanted to go over to libera and find the people that I see on the bot, I"d need that information
[2023-11-28 21:17:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'd like to also see what channel they're in.  If I wanted to go over to libera and find the people that I see on the bot, I"d need that information
[2023-11-28 21:17:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| As in, what channel they're speaking from, or what *other* channels they're in?
[2023-11-28 21:17:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| As in, what channel they're speaking from, or what *other* channels they're in?
[2023-11-28 21:17:54] <Lucifer_arma> speaking from
[2023-11-28 21:17:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| speaking from
[2023-11-28 21:18:12] <Lucifer_arma> is it possible to talk to the bot directly?  Get a list of people it's relaying?
[2023-11-28 21:18:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| is it possible to talk to the bot directly?  Get a list of people it's relaying?
[2023-11-28 21:18:16] <Lucifer_arma> armagetron-bridge: hi
[2023-11-28 21:18:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| armagetron-bridge: hi
[2023-11-28 21:18:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's straightforward enough - across IRC the channel names will always be identical
[2023-11-28 21:18:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's straightforward enough - across IRC the channel names will always be identical
[2023-11-28 21:18:19] <Lucifer_arma> armagetron-bridge: help
[2023-11-28 21:18:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| armagetron-bridge: help
[2023-11-28 21:18:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| um... I don't actually know, hang on
[2023-11-28 21:18:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| um... I don't actually know, hang on
[2023-11-28 21:18:55] <Lucifer_arma> what software is it using?
[2023-11-28 21:18:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| what software is it using?
[2023-11-28 21:18:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh speaking of a bot, I should update rinzler and have it also be present on IRC
[2023-11-28 21:18:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh speaking of a bot, I should update rinzler and have it also be present on IRC
[2023-11-28 21:19:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Matterbridge
[2023-11-28 21:19:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Matterbridge
[2023-11-28 21:19:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
[2023-11-28 21:19:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
[2023-11-28 21:20:15] <Juest> what network they're talking from
[2023-11-28 21:20:15] <armagetron-bridge> 14irc:Juest| what network they're talking from
[2023-11-28 21:20:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, right. So you want to see "libera" or "oftc" instead of "irc
[2023-11-28 21:20:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, right. So you want to see "libera" or "oftc" instead of "irc
[2023-11-28 21:20:44] <Juest> guess the network without looking in irc\
[2023-11-28 21:20:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14irc:Juest| guess the network without looking in irc\
[2023-11-28 21:20:51] <Juest> you cant
[2023-11-28 21:20:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14irc:Juest| you cant
[2023-11-28 21:21:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'll make some changes tomorrow
[2023-11-28 21:21:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'll make some changes tomorrow
[2023-11-28 21:21:10] <Juest> that would be useful yes, even on the irc side
[2023-11-28 21:21:11] <armagetron-bridge> 14irc:Juest| that would be useful yes, even on the irc side
[2023-11-28 21:21:19] <Lucifer_arma> heh, supported by Digital Ocean
[2023-11-28 21:21:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| heh, supported by Digital Ocean
[2023-11-28 21:21:26] <Juest> makes sense?
[2023-11-28 21:21:27] <armagetron-bridge> 14irc:Juest| makes sense?
[2023-11-28 21:21:27] <Lucifer_arma> I've been reading a lot of their articles while setting up postfix :)
[2023-11-28 21:21:27] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've been reading a lot of their articles while setting up postfix :)
[2023-11-28 21:21:33] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| :)
[2023-11-28 21:21:33] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| :)
[2023-11-28 21:22:10] <Lucifer_arma> yea, see the network, but also the protocol so we'll know which app to use if we need to go there directly
[2023-11-28 21:22:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yea, see the network, but also the protocol so we'll know which app to use if we need to go there directly
[2023-11-28 21:22:37] <Lucifer_arma> but ideally, the username thing, because tab completion doesn't work for users in armagetron-bridge
[2023-11-28 21:22:38] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but ideally, the username thing, because tab completion doesn't work for users in armagetron-bridge
[2023-11-28 21:22:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly I don't know if I can fix that, I think its a limitation of IRC
[2023-11-28 21:22:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly I don't know if I can fix that, I think its a limitation of IRC
[2023-11-28 21:23:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| there might be one or two clients that support it, but universal support is likely never going to come
[2023-11-28 21:23:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| there might be one or two clients that support it, but universal support is likely never going to come
[2023-11-28 21:23:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's not a limitation of irc per se, if it's a limitation, it's oftc/libera limiting it
[2023-11-28 21:23:19] <Lucifer_arma> it's not a limitation of irc per se, if it's a limitation, it's oftc/libera limiting it
[2023-11-28 21:23:44] <Lucifer_arma> there's no technical reason a single client can't connect as multiple users on the same irc server/network
[2023-11-28 21:23:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| there's no technical reason a single client can't connect as multiple users on the same irc server/network
[2023-11-28 21:23:59] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you want the bridge to spam users
[2023-11-28 21:23:59] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you want the bridge to spam users
[2023-11-28 21:24:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh that. Right, I thought you were referring to dynamic nick changing
[2023-11-28 21:24:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh that. Right, I thought you were referring to dynamic nick changing
[2023-11-28 21:24:16] <Lucifer_arma> it wouldn't be spam.  Spam is unwanted. 
[2023-11-28 21:24:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it wouldn't be spam.  Spam is unwanted.
[2023-11-28 21:24:22] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| sure, look at how php guys do it, it clutters your join/parts
[2023-11-28 21:24:22] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| sure, look at how php guys do it, it clutters your join/parts
[2023-11-28 21:24:54] <Lucifer_arma> you can hide those messages in your client?
[2023-11-28 21:24:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you can hide those messages in your client?
[2023-11-28 21:24:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| it spams join/parts because the users were offline for a certain period of time and reappear when they come back online
[2023-11-28 21:24:56] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| it spams join/parts because the users were offline for a certain period of time and reappear when they come back online
[2023-11-28 21:25:01] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its still spam
[2023-11-28 21:25:02] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its still spam
[2023-11-28 21:25:11] <Lucifer_arma> it's the nature of the app
[2023-11-28 21:25:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's the nature of the app
[2023-11-28 21:25:19] <Lucifer_arma> in channels with like 200 people, you see that anyway
[2023-11-28 21:25:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| in channels with like 200 people, you see that anyway
[2023-11-28 21:26:29] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i mean, spam virtual users, at least its mostly harmless
[2023-11-28 21:26:30] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i mean, spam virtual users, at least its mostly harmless
[2023-11-28 21:26:37] <Lucifer_arma> on a certain level, everyone communicating through the bridge is in the same channel, so they're all legitimate users of the channel
[2023-11-28 21:26:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| on a certain level, everyone communicating through the bridge is in the same channel, so they're all legitimate users of the channel
[2023-11-28 21:26:38] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| but its traffic
[2023-11-28 21:26:38] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| but its traffic
[2023-11-28 21:27:22] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| on discord it would be impossible to have those fake users in a user list unfortunately
[2023-11-28 21:27:23] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| on discord it would be impossible to have those fake users in a user list unfortunately
[2023-11-28 21:27:24] <Lucifer_arma> it wouldn't be any different than if they actually joined this channel.  We'd get the join/part clutter then.  THe only reason we don't have it now is because there's only like 6 people here
[2023-11-28 21:27:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it wouldn't be any different than if they actually joined this channel.  We'd get the join/part clutter then.  THe only reason we don't have it now is because there's only like 6 people here
[2023-11-28 21:27:55] <Lucifer_arma> they're not fake users, they're users connected by proxy.  They're still connected.
[2023-11-28 21:27:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| they're not fake users, they're users connected by proxy.  They're still connected.
[2023-11-28 21:28:10] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| virtual users i meant
[2023-11-28 21:28:10] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| virtual users i meant
[2023-11-28 21:28:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| To be honest, this opens up a whole 'nother can of worms. When you create a user account, even if it's just to represent that user via an automated service, they have to agree to the terms of that service. Adding that functionality is possible, sure, but it is also potentially against the terms of either Discord, Libera, OFTC, or any combination thereof. We'd also have to reconfi <clipped message>
[2023-11-28 21:28:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| To be honest, this opens up a whole 'nother can of worms. When you create a user account, even if it's just to represent that user via an automated service, they have to agree to the terms of that service. Adding that functionality is possible, sure, but it is also potentially against the terms of either Discord, Libera, OFTC, or any combination thereof. We'd also have to reconfi <clipped message>
[2023-11-28 21:28:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| rm terms for every existing member fo the discord server, which is no trivial matter. In short, it puts each of our communities at risk of termination, and possible legal ramifications if we don't get it right. And then there's the whol COPPA thing, and its EU/UK equivalents. We don't know for certain that everyone in this server is over the age of majority (in fact, we know for  <clipped message>
[2023-11-28 21:28:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| rm terms for every existing member fo the discord server, which is no trivial matter. In short, it puts each of our communities at risk of termination, and possible legal ramifications if we don't get it right. And then there's the whol COPPA thing, and its EU/UK equivalents. We don't know for certain that everyone in this server is over the age of majority (in fact, we know for  <clipped message>
[2023-11-28 21:28:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| certain that there are younger persons here), which adds a further complication - both legally and technically.
[2023-11-28 21:28:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| certain that there are younger persons here), which adds a further complication - both legally and technically.
[2023-11-28 21:28:33] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ask php people for advice
[2023-11-28 21:28:33] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ask php people for advice
[2023-11-28 21:28:40] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| they run exactly just that stuff
[2023-11-28 21:28:41] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| they run exactly just that stuff
[2023-11-28 21:28:55] <Lucifer_arma> I think you're overthinking it.  THey don't have to register with NickServ
[2023-11-28 21:28:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think you're overthinking it.  THey don't have to register with NickServ
[2023-11-28 21:28:58] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| they have irc channels bridged to discord
[2023-11-28 21:28:59] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| they have irc channels bridged to discord
[2023-11-28 21:29:19] <Lucifer_arma> also, it's the bot owner that would be making those agreements, to the extent that they're there.
[2023-11-28 21:29:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, it's the bot owner that would be making those agreements, to the extent that they're there.
[2023-11-28 21:29:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you're talking about a *separate* entity, however, this is not so legally bound. The bot is a wholly separate entity to the discord user, thus discord has no legal quarrel
[2023-11-28 21:29:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you're talking about a *separate* entity, however, this is not so legally bound. The bot is a wholly separate entity to the discord user, thus discord has no legal quarrel
[2023-11-28 21:29:39] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| on the discord side you cant have virtual users anyways, this is working via webhooks
[2023-11-28 21:29:39] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| on the discord side you cant have virtual users anyways, this is working via webhooks
[2023-11-28 21:29:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| already
[2023-11-28 21:29:48] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| already
[2023-11-28 21:30:58] <Lucifer_arma> you'd probably still want a prefix of some sort in the username to indicate they're from the bot, just to CYA.  So if the actual person joins with an irc client, they'd use the unprefixed name, because it's their name
[2023-11-28 21:30:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you'd probably still want a prefix of some sort in the username to indicate they're from the bot, just to CYA.  So if the actual person joins with an irc client, they'd use the unprefixed name, because it's their name
[2023-11-28 21:32:09] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| yeah its already prefixed for the bridge messages
[2023-11-28 21:32:10] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| yeah its already prefixed for the bridge messages
[2023-11-28 21:32:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| on discord its done via webhooks, its pretty limited
[2023-11-28 21:32:17] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| on discord its done via webhooks, its pretty limited
[2023-11-28 21:33:13] <Lucifer_arma> discord is technically a mess.  I think they don't want to open their source code because they're legitimately afraid they'll get laughed into oblivion
[2023-11-28 21:33:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| discord is technically a mess.  I think they don't want to open their source code because they're legitimately afraid they'll get laughed into oblivion
[2023-11-28 21:33:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf its built on electron, so you already know they're lazy fucks
[2023-11-28 21:33:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf its built on electron, so you already know they're lazy fucks
[2023-11-28 21:34:25] <Lucifer_arma> the only reason discord was able to get as big as it did was because it had commercial/investor backing.  It doesn't *do* anything that isn't available elsewhere in a free and open way
[2023-11-28 21:34:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the only reason discord was able to get as big as it did was because it had commercial/investor backing.  It doesn't *do* anything that isn't available elsewhere in a free and open way
[2023-11-28 21:34:47] <Lucifer_arma> same as zoom, except that zoom isn't too bad, technically.
[2023-11-28 21:34:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| same as zoom, except that zoom isn't too bad, technically.
[2023-11-28 21:35:12] <Lucifer_arma> it's why android and server linux are both huge, but desktop linux is still niche
[2023-11-28 21:35:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's why android and server linux are both huge, but desktop linux is still niche
[2023-11-28 21:36:03] <Lucifer_arma> biggest problem FOSS projects have had over the years is not paying enough attention to the social parts of software
[2023-11-28 21:36:04] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| biggest problem FOSS projects have had over the years is not paying enough attention to the social parts of software
[2023-11-28 21:36:11] <Lucifer_arma> we use the software our friends use
[2023-11-28 21:36:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we use the software our friends use
[2023-11-28 21:37:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its a modified electron
[2023-11-28 21:37:21] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its a modified electron
[2023-11-28 21:37:36] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| modified own fork of electron
[2023-11-28 21:37:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| modified own fork of electron
[2023-11-28 21:37:46] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| discord is just your average company
[2023-11-28 21:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| discord is just your average company
[2023-11-28 21:37:55] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| mtims itself and its not really encrypted
[2023-11-28 21:37:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| mtims itself and its not really encrypted
[2023-11-28 21:38:34] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but if you combined irc + mumble + skype, you get discord
[2023-11-28 21:38:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yeah, but if you combined irc + mumble + skype, you get discord
[2023-11-28 21:38:50] <Lucifer_arma> there were clients that did stuff like that.  I thought mumble covered everything
[2023-11-28 21:38:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| there were clients that did stuff like that.  I thought mumble covered everything
[2023-11-28 21:38:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about slack
[2023-11-28 21:38:55] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about slack
[2023-11-28 21:39:03] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its when you combine discord and work apparently
[2023-11-28 21:39:04] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its when you combine discord and work apparently
[2023-11-28 21:39:12] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| maybe microsoft lync/skype for business?
[2023-11-28 21:39:13] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| maybe microsoft lync/skype for business?
[2023-11-28 21:39:21] <Lucifer_arma> but without investor backing, there's no reliable network.  And that's what gets you discord.  It's the network that matters
[2023-11-28 21:39:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but without investor backing, there's no reliable network.  And that's what gets you discord.  It's the network that matters
[2023-11-28 21:40:02] <Lucifer_arma> I was on discord for a little while a bit over a year ago, and I gave up because irc is technically superior for what irc does
[2023-11-28 21:40:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was on discord for a little while a bit over a year ago, and I gave up because irc is technically superior for what irc does
[2023-11-28 21:40:16] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2023-11-28 21:40:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2023-11-28 21:40:20] <Lucifer_arma> also, I didn't like the closed source crap on my computer
[2023-11-28 21:40:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, I didn't like the closed source crap on my computer
[2023-11-28 21:40:40] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| there are open source clients but its not allowed by the tos so its laughable
[2023-11-28 21:40:41] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| there are open source clients but its not allowed by the tos so its laughable
[2023-11-28 21:41:28] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you can use libraries designed for bots with your regular discord user but thats also a bannable offense
[2023-11-28 21:41:28] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you can use libraries designed for bots with your regular discord user but thats also a bannable offense
[2023-11-28 21:41:31] <Lucifer_arma> these irc networks all have some kind of investor backing, but I don't know who's backing libera
[2023-11-28 21:41:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| these irc networks all have some kind of investor backing, but I don't know who's backing libera
[2023-11-28 21:41:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| who do you think is backing efnet
[2023-11-28 21:41:58] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| who do you think is backing efnet
[2023-11-28 21:42:07] <Lucifer_arma> isn't it eff?
[2023-11-28 21:42:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| isn't it eff?
[2023-11-28 21:42:31] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ok i have no idea
[2023-11-28 21:42:32] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ok i have no idea
[2023-11-28 21:44:53] <Lucifer_arma> no, it's not
[2023-11-28 21:44:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| no, it's not
[2023-11-28 21:45:09] <Lucifer_arma> it looks volunteer-run, but it's also the wild west
[2023-11-28 21:45:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it looks volunteer-run, but it's also the wild west
[2023-11-28 21:47:43] <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet it was microsoft supporting discord in xbox live that made discord blow up
[2023-11-28 21:47:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll bet it was microsoft supporting discord in xbox live that made discord blow up
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[2023-11-28 22:51:18] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| We have Teams already
[2023-11-28 22:51:19] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| We have Teams already
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