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[2023-11-19 01:02:20] <Lucifer_arma> ok, 23:58 - 22:38 = 1 hour 20 minutes
[2023-11-19 01:02:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, 23:58 - 22:38 = 1 hour 20 minutes
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[2023-11-19 02:00:39] <Lucifer_arma> no, but if you find one, I might be interested in it
[2023-11-19 02:00:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| no, but if you find one, I might be interested in it
[2023-11-19 02:01:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I just found Zint in my repo. So many options... Works good though.
[2023-11-19 02:01:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I just found Zint in my repo. So many options... Works good though.
[2023-11-19 02:01:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://www.zint.org.uk
[2023-11-19 02:01:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://www.zint.org.uk
[2023-11-19 02:05:18] <Lucifer_arma> now I just need to remember what I needed a QR for
[2023-11-19 02:05:18] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| now I just need to remember what I needed a QR for
[2023-11-19 02:05:43] <Lucifer_arma> can a raspberry pi 3 serve as a file server for a large number of machines?  Like 20+?
[2023-11-19 02:05:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| can a raspberry pi 3 serve as a file server for a large number of machines?  Like 20+?
[2023-11-19 02:06:10] <Lucifer_arma> nfs, not samba
[2023-11-19 02:06:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| nfs, not samba
[2023-11-19 02:07:30] <Lucifer_arma> I may be about to eliminate the reason I need a file server, though.  Hrm.
[2023-11-19 02:07:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I may be about to eliminate the reason I need a file server, though.  Hrm.
[2023-11-19 02:08:22] <Lucifer_arma> um, those 20 machines will ultimately be PXE booting with their OSes stored on the fileserver
[2023-11-19 02:08:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| um, those 20 machines will ultimately be PXE booting with their OSes stored on the fileserver
[2023-11-19 02:08:29] <Lucifer_arma> so, can a raspberry pi 3 handle that kind of load?
[2023-11-19 02:08:29] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so, can a raspberry pi 3 handle that kind of load?
[2023-11-19 02:09:03] <Lucifer_arma> after boot, it would serve /etc, /home, and another mountpoint that's shared files for the whole cluster
[2023-11-19 02:09:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| after boot, it would serve /etc, /home, and another mountpoint that's shared files for the whole cluster
[2023-11-19 02:16:27] <Lucifer_arma> damn, probably /var, too
[2023-11-19 02:16:27] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| damn, probably /var, too
[2023-11-19 02:17:01] <Lucifer_arma> it would serve everything a worker needs so it doesn't have to have an sdcard anymore, so bring down the cost of adding a new node to the cluster
[2023-11-19 02:17:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it would serve everything a worker needs so it doesn't have to have an sdcard anymore, so bring down the cost of adding a new node to the cluster
[2023-11-19 02:17:58] <Lucifer_arma> it's either I buy that (plus the SSD to support it), or I add another node and look at making the database server, which is already also running the fileserver, serve all those directories and go to pxe boot anyway
[2023-11-19 02:17:58] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's either I buy that (plus the SSD to support it), or I add another node and look at making the database server, which is already also running the fileserver, serve all those directories and go to pxe boot anyway
[2023-11-19 02:30:44] <Lucifer_arma> I remember what I wanted to do with a QR code.  I wanted to put a venmo qr code on my business cards.  :)
[2023-11-19 02:30:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I remember what I wanted to do with a QR code.  I wanted to put a venmo qr code on my business cards.  :)
[2023-11-19 03:42:07] <Lucifer_arma> ok, nvm the netboot for now.  Apparently it only works from the wired ethernet, and I'm still a ways off from that.  So I guess if I'm going to add another node, I'm going to have to buy the pi, a power supply, and an sdcard
[2023-11-19 03:42:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, nvm the netboot for now.  Apparently it only works from the wired ethernet, and I'm still a ways off from that.  So I guess if I'm going to add another node, I'm going to have to buy the pi, a power supply, and an sdcard
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[2023-11-19 09:50:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You can theoretically configure netboot over wifi by using a boot shell or a PXE rom, IPXE is a possible solution. That said, network booting over wifi is fraught with issues regardless of the device you're booting, and it really isn't something that gets any more attention than "can this be done at all?". 
[2023-11-19 09:50:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You can theoretically configure netboot over wifi by using a boot shell or a PXE rom, IPXE is a possible solution. That said, network booting over wifi is fraught with issues regardless of the device you're booting, and it really isn't something that gets any more attention than "can this be done at all?". 
[2023-11-19 09:50:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you have more than two or three Pis as it is, I might consider getting a chassis for them. There are some out there that will split a single ehternet hookup across all racked Pi modules, and even some that will share a simple nfs share or even a hardware share between them. Something to think about for the future.
[2023-11-19 09:50:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you have more than two or three Pis as it is, I might consider getting a chassis for them. There are some out there that will split a single ehternet hookup across all racked Pi modules, and even some that will share a simple nfs share or even a hardware share between them. Something to think about for the future.
[2023-11-19 10:25:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:anjo| i tested nelgs new mac client on my m1 and i got 900 fps with no input delay
[2023-11-19 10:25:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:anjo| i tested nelgs new mac client on my m1 and i got 900 fps with no input delay
[2023-11-19 10:26:09] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:anjo| @wwnelg 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
[2023-11-19 10:26:10] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:anjo| @wwnelg 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
[2023-11-19 11:18:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| gj nelg you're a hero
[2023-11-19 11:18:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| gj nelg you're a hero
[2023-11-19 12:32:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| yeah nice, except its running over rosetta 2 unless its universal
[2023-11-19 12:32:19] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| yeah nice, except its running over rosetta 2 unless its universal
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[2023-11-19 22:40:38] <Lucifer_arma> @delinquent: I've priced chassis's, and they're not terrible.  I also need to see if there's a chassis available for the orange pi 5.
[2023-11-19 22:40:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @delinquent: I've priced chassis's, and they're not terrible.  I also need to see if there's a chassis available for the orange pi 5.
[2023-11-19 22:41:16] <Lucifer_arma> Right now, I've got one of those cluster cases for the pi's.  It was $16, so it's pretty basic, but it does consolidate them into one unit.  There's room for one more on the unit, and then after that I'll need another case to add nodes
[2023-11-19 22:41:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Right now, I've got one of those cluster cases for the pi's.  It was $16, so it's pretty basic, but it does consolidate them into one unit.  There's room for one more on the unit, and then after that I'll need another case to add nodes
[2023-11-19 22:41:40] <Lucifer_arma> but I have three stand-alone cases, so I'll be able to keep adding pi's until I reach 7 before I *have* to buy a new case
[2023-11-19 22:41:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but I have three stand-alone cases, so I'll be able to keep adding pi's until I reach 7 before I *have* to buy a new case
[2023-11-19 22:41:59] <Lucifer_arma> we'll where I'm at at that point, because a chassis on a rack is the best place to end up as the cluster grows
[2023-11-19 22:42:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we'll where I'm at at that point, because a chassis on a rack is the best place to end up as the cluster grows
[2023-11-19 22:43:23] <Lucifer_arma> I have a 5 port ethernet switch that I can put the four pi's on (when I get the fourth) and then hook up to the router, but I don't have any cables.  I've been having trouble sourcing a roll of cat6 because I've only been shopping it on amazon.  I don't want to buy individual cables because I need to customize their lengths to fit the layout that I'll ultimately design
[2023-11-19 22:43:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I have a 5 port ethernet switch that I can put the four pi's on (when I get the fourth) and then hook up to the router, but I don't have any cables.  I've been having trouble sourcing a roll of cat6 because I've only been shopping it on amazon.  I don't want to buy individual cables because I need to customize their lengths to fit the layout that I'll ultimately design
[2023-11-19 22:44:00] <Lucifer_arma> *but* I don't want to focus too much on *that* until I have a head unit that'll serve as a gateway for the cluster, because I want to keep the cluster in my bedroom
[2023-11-19 22:44:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| *but* I don't want to focus too much on *that* until I have a head unit that'll serve as a gateway for the cluster, because I want to keep the cluster in my bedroom
[2023-11-19 22:44:36] <Lucifer_arma> so maybe the next raspberry pi shouldn't be a node, but instead should be that head unit.  I was really thinking orange pi for that, though, but a raspberry pi 3 could probably do *that* job just fine
[2023-11-19 22:44:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so maybe the next raspberry pi shouldn't be a node, but instead should be that head unit.  I was really thinking orange pi for that, though, but a raspberry pi 3 could probably do *that* job just fine
[2023-11-19 22:44:51] <Lucifer_arma> especially if it can also serve up the filesystems to the nodes
[2023-11-19 22:44:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| especially if it can also serve up the filesystems to the nodes
[2023-11-19 22:45:53] <Lucifer_arma> but that's a bunch of configuration I don't want to deal with right now.  I'm going to finish getting all the database maintenance chores that I still need to have in the cluster and then focus on the UI and simulation again, since I'll finally have a solid foundation upon which to build these things
[2023-11-19 22:45:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but that's a bunch of configuration I don't want to deal with right now.  I'm going to finish getting all the database maintenance chores that I still need to have in the cluster and then focus on the UI and simulation again, since I'll finally have a solid foundation upon which to build these things
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