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[2023-11-12 01:36:56] <Lucifer_arma> the commodore amiga was the most influential computer in history.  Fight me.
[2023-11-12 01:36:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the commodore amiga was the most influential computer in history.  Fight me.
[2023-11-12 01:39:12] <Lucifer_arma> actually, since last I heard, ARM is in the direct lineage of the 6502 CPU, that would make the C64 more relevant now than the amiga
[2023-11-12 01:39:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| actually, since last I heard, ARM is in the direct lineage of the 6502 CPU, that would make the C64 more relevant now than the amiga
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[2023-11-12 02:23:53] <Lucifer_arma> you can almost guess what I'm watching based on my comments, heh.
[2023-11-12 02:23:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you can almost guess what I'm watching based on my comments, heh.
[2023-11-12 02:23:59] <Lucifer_arma> I think Star Trek 9 is a great movie
[2023-11-12 02:23:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think Star Trek 9 is a great movie
[2023-11-12 07:26:17] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| I would not say it's great, but it does come straight after the truly great ones (2,4,8, obvs.)
[2023-11-12 07:26:18] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| I would not say it's great, but it does come straight after the truly great ones (2,4,8, obvs.)
[2023-11-12 07:30:30] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Not a big re-watcher here. But all of the Trek moves come out of the box every couple of years. Well, abstractly speaking. I only have them IN a box since that last rewatch.
[2023-11-12 07:30:30] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Not a big re-watcher here. But all of the Trek moves come out of the box every couple of years. Well, abstractly speaking. I only have them IN a box since that last rewatch.
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[2023-11-12 09:30:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma nah fam I'mma pay you for it, only reason I asked is because it's currently set to kindle-only.
[2023-11-12 09:30:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma nah fam I'mma pay you for it, only reason I asked is because it's currently set to kindle-only.
[2023-11-12 09:33:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Insurrection was a great idea, just not executed perfectly. Had some issues, I think. The whole premise was very much jean-luc though. It was practically a TNG episode in film format
[2023-11-12 09:33:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Insurrection was a great idea, just not executed perfectly. Had some issues, I think. The whole premise was very much jean-luc though. It was practically a TNG episode in film format
[2023-11-12 09:34:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I didn't actually dislike Nemesis either tbh. The idea of a faction practically forcing the Romulan Empire to settle with the Federation could have been the precursor to a fantastic politically driven arc
[2023-11-12 09:34:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I didn't actually dislike Nemesis either tbh. The idea of a faction practically forcing the Romulan Empire to settle with the Federation could have been the precursor to a fantastic politically driven arc
[2023-11-12 09:35:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the books actually did that, the typhon pact series is masterfully done
[2023-11-12 09:35:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the books actually did that, the typhon pact series is masterfully done
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[2023-11-12 16:52:22] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That's crazy the package got bounced around. I was so proud of myself for shipping it in less than 24 hours...
[2023-11-12 16:52:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That's crazy the package got bounced around. I was so proud of myself for shipping it in less than 24 hours...
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[2023-11-12 22:31:16] <Lucifer_arma> @delinquent: There's no non-kindle-only option on amazon.  Now I'm on vacation, I'll take some time out to check out lulu
[2023-11-12 22:31:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @delinquent: There's no non-kindle-only option on amazon.  Now I'm on vacation, I'll take some time out to check out lulu
[2023-11-12 22:31:32] <Lucifer_arma> Nemesis was a great sci-fi flick, terrible star trek
[2023-11-12 22:31:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Nemesis was a great sci-fi flick, terrible star trek
[2023-11-12 22:31:48] <Lucifer_arma> Insurrection had execution problems because of studio meddling, but there's a great movie that manages to shine through
[2023-11-12 22:31:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Insurrection had execution problems because of studio meddling, but there's a great movie that manages to shine through
[2023-11-12 22:32:22] <Lucifer_arma> @sine.wav: It got here today.  You should hang on to that pride, because it was USPS that fuckered up.  I really love the light cycle.  Thank you!  It's awesome
[2023-11-12 22:32:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @sine.wav: It got here today.  You should hang on to that pride, because it was USPS that fuckered up.  I really love the light cycle.  Thank you!  It's awesome
[2023-11-12 22:32:42] <Lucifer_arma> is it safe to assume the white surfaces are the surfaces that need to be painted?
[2023-11-12 22:32:42] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| is it safe to assume the white surfaces are the surfaces that need to be painted?
[2023-11-12 22:34:20] <Lucifer_arma> I also think the search for spock is a great movie.  It does suffer a little bit from the genesis planet being shot on a sound stage, and the whole thing about David felt a bit contrived because he'd only just appeared in the previous movie
[2023-11-12 22:34:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I also think the search for spock is a great movie.  It does suffer a little bit from the genesis planet being shot on a sound stage, and the whole thing about David felt a bit contrived because he'd only just appeared in the previous movie
[2023-11-12 22:34:36] <Lucifer_arma> but I'm a star trek heretic.  I *love* Star Trek V.
[2023-11-12 22:34:36] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but I'm a star trek heretic.  I *love* Star Trek V.
[2023-11-12 22:36:25] <Lucifer_arma> you should be able to use a kindle reader, or any app that can read kindle, but I haven't actually tried any of this
[2023-11-12 22:36:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you should be able to use a kindle reader, or any app that can read kindle, but I haven't actually tried any of this
[2023-11-12 22:40:41] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.nbcboston.com/investigations/consumer/automaker-says-it-cant-offer-mass-residents-certain-services-over-right-to-repair-law/3187555/
[2023-11-12 22:40:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://www.nbcboston.com/investigations/consumer/automaker-says-it-cant-offer-mass-residents-certain-services-over-right-to-repair-law/3187555/
[2023-11-12 22:41:11] <Lucifer_arma> ^^---- this is an example of the importance of open source software.  We're linked to the Right to Repair movement, but the right to repair movement hasn't figured it out yet
[2023-11-12 22:41:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ^^---- this is an example of the importance of open source software.  We're linked to the Right to Repair movement, but the right to repair movement hasn't figured it out yet
[2023-11-12 22:42:03] <Lucifer_arma> but automakers are basically saying they can't open up the protocols they've made because then they won't be "safe", meaning, of course, that either they've built shitty protocols loaded with vulnerabilities, or they really mean that the automakers won't be safe if their protocols are open
[2023-11-12 22:42:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but automakers are basically saying they can't open up the protocols they've made because then they won't be "safe", meaning, of course, that either they've built shitty protocols loaded with vulnerabilities, or they really mean that the automakers won't be safe if their protocols are open
[2023-11-12 22:42:56] <Lucifer_arma> but obviously the whole idea is to lock in buyers to only being able to go to dealer shops for service and repair, and Tesla is spearheading this effort
[2023-11-12 22:42:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but obviously the whole idea is to lock in buyers to only being able to go to dealer shops for service and repair, and Tesla is spearheading this effort
[2023-11-12 22:43:28] <Lucifer_arma> Teslas don't even have an OBDII port, having successfully argued that electric vehicles have no emissions, so no regulatory power exists to require them to have an OBDII port, or something like that
[2023-11-12 22:43:29] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Teslas don't even have an OBDII port, having successfully argued that electric vehicles have no emissions, so no regulatory power exists to require them to have an OBDII port, or something like that
[2023-11-12 22:44:04] <Lucifer_arma> but obviously if they had an OBDII port, that would help aftermarket shops to troubleshoot tesla problems, taking tesla owners out of tesla shops and into the aftermarket
[2023-11-12 22:44:04] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but obviously if they had an OBDII port, that would help aftermarket shops to troubleshoot tesla problems, taking tesla owners out of tesla shops and into the aftermarket
[2023-11-12 22:45:56] <Lucifer_arma> and also obvious: if the software were all open source, this conflict wouldn't exist.  As it is, automakers are taking open source and using it, but building on top of it a layer of closed source that makes it possible for them to lock it up
[2023-11-12 22:45:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| and also obvious: if the software were all open source, this conflict wouldn't exist.  As it is, automakers are taking open source and using it, but building on top of it a layer of closed source that makes it possible for them to lock it up
[2023-11-12 22:46:03] <Lucifer_arma> similar to what's being done with Android
[2023-11-12 22:46:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| similar to what's being done with Android
[2023-11-12 22:48:53] <Lucifer_arma> crap, I forgot to buy batteries for the midi controller
[2023-11-12 22:48:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| crap, I forgot to buy batteries for the midi controller
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