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[2023-11-09 00:00:35] <Lucifer_arma> ok, got the scoring fixed on my server
[2023-11-09 00:00:36] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, got the scoring fixed on my server
[2023-11-09 00:01:06] <Lucifer_arma> also, I added ais to multiplayer so there'll always be at least four players.  My server is more fun with more people, but you don't really see that with the current number of people playing
[2023-11-09 00:01:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, I added ais to multiplayer so there'll always be at least four players.  My server is more fun with more people, but you don't really see that with the current number of people playing
[2023-11-09 00:02:11] <Lucifer_arma> mildly amusing that I had to read a page on the wiki that I wrote to understand the settings file layout
[2023-11-09 00:02:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| mildly amusing that I had to read a page on the wiki that I wrote to understand the settings file layout
[2023-11-09 00:03:22] <Lucifer_arma> zmanuel: is krawall still in the source tree in any form?
[2023-11-09 00:03:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| zmanuel: is krawall still in the source tree in any form?
[2023-11-09 01:47:27] <Lucifer_arma> ok, that's it.  I'm declaring this story ready to publish.  Now I have to make the cover, format the pdf, etc.
[2023-11-09 01:47:27] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, that's it.  I'm declaring this story ready to publish.  Now I have to make the cover, format the pdf, etc.
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[2023-11-09 09:26:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| cheers
[2023-11-09 09:26:20] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| cheers
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[2023-11-09 11:48:34] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| Lucifer_arma, you can use blitblee to connect to discord with irc
[2023-11-09 11:48:34] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| Lucifer_arma, you can use blitblee to connect to discord with irc
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[2023-11-09 11:53:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'll take a look at getting that working, it would be nice to share the other channels rather than just chat and eventually pickup. It might require setting up an IRC network of our own, which I can do if necessary
[2023-11-09 11:53:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'll take a look at getting that working, it would be nice to share the other channels rather than just chat and eventually pickup. It might require setting up an IRC network of our own, which I can do if necessary
[2023-11-09 11:54:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That would also allow us to bridge all fo the IRC networks
[2023-11-09 11:54:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That would also allow us to bridge all fo the IRC networks
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[2023-11-09 11:55:39] <armagetronbridge> 11irc:delinquent| btw Lucifer_arma could I impose on you to change the channel topic a little? It would be nice to also include links to the armagetron steam page as well as the discord
[2023-11-09 11:55:39] <delinquent> btw Lucifer_arma could I impose on you to change the channel topic a little? It would be nice to also include links to the armagetron steam page as well as the discord
[2023-11-09 11:57:00] <delinquent> hmmm. It turns out we don't actually have #armagetron-pickup registered either here or on Libera. I will remedy that later today
[2023-11-09 11:57:00] <armagetronbridge> 11irc:delinquent| hmmm. It turns out we don't actually have #armagetron-pickup registered either here or on Libera. I will remedy that later today
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[2023-11-09 13:12:07] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| also, i think  you can control the libera one?
[2023-11-09 13:12:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| also, i think  you can control the libera one?
[2023-11-09 13:13:06] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| blitblee is a ircd for users not really designed for shared usage and stuff
[2023-11-09 13:13:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| blitblee is a ircd for users not really designed for shared usage and stuff
[2023-11-09 13:13:19] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its for multiple protocols too
[2023-11-09 13:13:19] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its for multiple protocols too
[2023-11-09 13:17:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @Juesto no, upon further inspection it's not really designed for that. It would be nice to have an IRC server set up for this though, one with channels specifically corresponding  to the channels in the discord.
[2023-11-09 13:17:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @Juesto no, upon further inspection it's not really designed for that. It would be nice to have an IRC server set up for this though, one with channels specifically corresponding  to the channels in the discord.
[2023-11-09 13:17:27] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i suggested it for lucifer to use
[2023-11-09 13:17:27] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i suggested it for lucifer to use
[2023-11-09 13:18:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| aye I'm jsut letting my mind wander a little
[2023-11-09 13:18:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| aye I'm jsut letting my mind wander a little
[2023-11-09 14:00:27] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| kinda pointless imo, very few people to warrant it
[2023-11-09 14:00:28] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| kinda pointless imo, very few people to warrant it
[2023-11-09 14:00:40] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| the ircd that is
[2023-11-09 14:00:40] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| the ircd that is
[2023-11-09 17:55:24] <Lucifer_arma> Why would a package bound for pflugerville go to Austin, then Fredericksburg, which is like 2 hours drive SW from pflugerville?
[2023-11-09 17:55:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Why would a package bound for pflugerville go to Austin, then Fredericksburg, which is like 2 hours drive SW from pflugerville?
[2023-11-09 17:57:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if there's nothing already going in that direction, it's far cheaper to load a single package on an existing route than to pull up an entirely new route that may only serve a single package
[2023-11-09 17:57:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if there's nothing already going in that direction, it's far cheaper to load a single package on an existing route than to pull up an entirely new route that may only serve a single package
[2023-11-09 18:14:52] <Lucifer_arma> but that's the wrong direction.  Austin is the hub, and the capital city of Texas, and pflugerville is a sizable suburb
[2023-11-09 18:14:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but that's the wrong direction.  Austin is the hub, and the capital city of Texas, and pflugerville is a sizable suburb
[2023-11-09 18:15:15] <Lucifer_arma> pflugerville is NE of Austin
[2023-11-09 18:15:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| pflugerville is NE of Austin
[2023-11-09 18:39:01] <Lucifer_arma> it should have gone from Austin to my post office, which is right down the road from me, and then out for delivery from there
[2023-11-09 18:39:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it should have gone from Austin to my post office, which is right down the road from me, and then out for delivery from there
[2023-11-09 18:40:13] <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I went looking for a discord client that doesn't suck, and didn't find one.  But looking at the list of discord features, it seems that an open source replacement could be made relatively easily, since all the parts are already there
[2023-11-09 18:40:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| anyway, I went looking for a discord client that doesn't suck, and didn't find one.  But looking at the list of discord features, it seems that an open source replacement could be made relatively easily, since all the parts are already there
[2023-11-09 18:41:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Did you not find ripcord? Or does that not suit?
[2023-11-09 18:41:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Did you not find ripcord? Or does that not suit?
[2023-11-09 18:41:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Cancel is a pretty decent chap
[2023-11-09 18:41:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Cancel is a pretty decent chap
[2023-11-09 18:42:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://cancel.fm/ripcord/
[2023-11-09 18:42:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://cancel.fm/ripcord/
[2023-11-09 18:42:11] <Lucifer_arma> still closed source
[2023-11-09 18:42:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| still closed source
[2023-11-09 18:42:40] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| bleh
[2023-11-09 18:42:41] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| bleh
[2023-11-09 18:43:04] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| Lucifer_arma, you're not going to use a closed source service or just a closed source client that you're refusing to use?
[2023-11-09 18:43:04] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| Lucifer_arma, you're not going to use a closed source service or just a closed source client that you're refusing to use?
[2023-11-09 18:43:34] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| again, use bitblee if you want, you'll have to sign up on the website and get started on the web app regardless
[2023-11-09 18:43:34] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| again, use bitblee if you want, you'll have to sign up on the website and get started on the web app regardless
[2023-11-09 18:43:45] <Lucifer_arma> @Juesto: I'm not installing closed source apps on my computer.  I have to be more flexible on my phone, but I dont' have to on my computer anymore
[2023-11-09 18:43:45] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its your loss if you dont want to use it
[2023-11-09 18:43:45] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its your loss if you dont want to use it
[2023-11-09 18:43:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @Juesto: I'm not installing closed source apps on my computer.  I have to be more flexible on my phone, but I dont' have to on my computer anymore
[2023-11-09 18:43:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about using closed source web apps
[2023-11-09 18:43:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| how about using closed source web apps
[2023-11-09 18:44:01] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| not a discord desktop application
[2023-11-09 18:44:01] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| not a discord desktop application
[2023-11-09 18:44:08] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| which is based on electron
[2023-11-09 18:44:09] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| which is based on electron
[2023-11-09 18:44:21] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| which its a web app packed into a desktop package
[2023-11-09 18:44:21] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| which its a web app packed into a desktop package
[2023-11-09 18:44:44] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you dont get it, dont you? discord is a web app
[2023-11-09 18:44:44] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you dont get it, dont you? discord is a web app
[2023-11-09 18:44:47] <Lucifer_arma> web apps are in a serious grey area.  But I avoid many of them
[2023-11-09 18:44:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| web apps are in a serious grey area.  But I avoid many of them
[2023-11-09 18:44:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2023-11-09 18:44:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2023-11-09 18:45:03] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| well then, your problem
[2023-11-09 18:45:03] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| well then, your problem
[2023-11-09 18:45:13] <Lucifer_arma> dude, I know what discord is.  It's a "chat network" with various voice/video features that's owned by a single company
[2023-11-09 18:45:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| dude, I know what discord is.  It's a "chat network" with various voice/video features that's owned by a single company
[2023-11-09 18:45:25] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| sorry
[2023-11-09 18:45:26] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| sorry
[2023-11-09 18:45:28] <Lucifer_arma> that's never been a problem before, right?  Letting one company own so much?
[2023-11-09 18:45:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that's never been a problem before, right?  Letting one company own so much?
[2023-11-09 18:45:46] <Lucifer_arma> closed protocols, closed source
[2023-11-09 18:45:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| closed protocols, closed source
[2023-11-09 18:45:53] <Lucifer_arma> the internet was built on open protocols and open source
[2023-11-09 18:45:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the internet was built on open protocols and open source
[2023-11-09 18:46:14] <Lucifer_arma> and like I said yesterday, nobody should have to install a closed source app to play an open source game
[2023-11-09 18:46:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| and like I said yesterday, nobody should have to install a closed source app to play an open source game
[2023-11-09 18:47:23] <Lucifer_arma> curiously enough, back in the 80s, there were two competing internet protocols.  One guy wanted a royalty for one of them, and that's how we ended up with the internet protocol we have: it's the one that was open
[2023-11-09 18:47:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| curiously enough, back in the 80s, there were two competing internet protocols.  One guy wanted a royalty for one of them, and that's how we ended up with the internet protocol we have: it's the one that was open
[2023-11-09 18:48:23] <Lucifer_arma> I'm curious what it would take to integrate an irc client with any of these open source voip/video networks
[2023-11-09 18:48:24] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm curious what it would take to integrate an irc client with any of these open source voip/video networks
[2023-11-09 18:49:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma what os are you running?
[2023-11-09 18:49:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma what os are you running?
[2023-11-09 18:49:46] <Lucifer_arma> Kubuntu 22.04LTS
[2023-11-09 18:49:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Kubuntu 22.04LTS
[2023-11-09 18:50:46] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| jitsi has xmpp and irc built in
[2023-11-09 18:50:46] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| jitsi has xmpp and irc built in
[2023-11-09 18:50:51] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| a bit like pidgin
[2023-11-09 18:50:52] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| a bit like pidgin
[2023-11-09 18:51:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://github.com/ayn2op/discordo looks pretty awesome tbf. Pretty much IRC style but for discord
[2023-11-09 18:51:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://github.com/ayn2op/discordo looks pretty awesome tbf. Pretty much IRC style but for discord
[2023-11-09 18:51:16] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| why not a matrix bridge? through its a bit of hell
[2023-11-09 18:51:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| why not a matrix bridge? through its a bit of hell
[2023-11-09 18:51:23] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| he doesnt want to connect to a closed protocol duh
[2023-11-09 18:51:23] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| he doesnt want to connect to a closed protocol duh
[2023-11-09 18:51:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @Juesto you're already using a matrix bridge
[2023-11-09 18:51:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @Juesto you're already using a matrix bridge
[2023-11-09 18:51:42] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| oh heh
[2023-11-09 18:51:43] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| oh heh
[2023-11-09 18:51:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's what mattermost is, a matrix/slack/telegram/irc/discord/etcetcetc bridge
[2023-11-09 18:51:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's what mattermost is, a matrix/slack/telegram/irc/discord/etcetcetc bridge
[2023-11-09 18:51:50] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| im on discord not matrix
[2023-11-09 18:51:51] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| im on discord not matrix
[2023-11-09 18:52:48] <Lucifer_arma> I like the bridge a lot.  I found another one when I was looking that would actually create irc users for every discord person
[2023-11-09 18:52:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I like the bridge a lot.  I found another one when I was looking that would actually create irc users for every discord person
[2023-11-09 18:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://github.com/uowuo/abaddon looks even better
[2023-11-09 18:53:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://github.com/uowuo/abaddon looks even better
[2023-11-09 18:53:02] <Lucifer_arma> @delinquent: that one looks great, but it's a terminal app
[2023-11-09 18:53:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @delinquent: that one looks great, but it's a terminal app
[2023-11-09 18:53:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Shouldn't have to install a closed source app, but we don't have an in game queue system like most modern games so we have to make our own. So then if we want a queue system we have to put it somewhere that is easy for people to use for any sort of adoption. Discord is perfect because most people already have an account and know how to use it. I'd say its popularity is the best r <clipped message>
[2023-11-09 18:53:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Shouldn't have to install a closed source app, but we don't have an in game queue system like most modern games so we have to make our own. So then if we want a queue system we have to put it somewhere that is easy for people to use for any sort of adoption. Discord is perfect because most people already have an account and know how to use it. I'd say its popularity is the best r <clipped message>
[2023-11-09 18:53:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| eason to use it as our main mode of communication just because it has the best chance of keeping any semblance of a community
[2023-11-09 18:53:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| eason to use it as our main mode of communication just because it has the best chance of keeping any semblance of a community
[2023-11-09 18:53:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma even better, no
[2023-11-09 18:53:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma even better, no
[2023-11-09 18:53:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ?
[2023-11-09 18:53:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ?
[2023-11-09 18:53:46] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| implement the queue system instead of working around it lol
[2023-11-09 18:53:46] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| implement the queue system instead of working around it lol
[2023-11-09 18:53:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| But ya maybe there's an easy 3rd party open source client you can use
[2023-11-09 18:53:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| But ya maybe there's an easy 3rd party open source client you can use
[2023-11-09 18:53:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| sure but who
[2023-11-09 18:53:56] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| sure but who
[2023-11-09 18:54:00] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| go figure
[2023-11-09 18:54:00] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| go figure
[2023-11-09 18:54:17] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| or even some matchmaking
[2023-11-09 18:54:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| or even some matchmaking
[2023-11-09 18:55:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| implementing something in client would be great, but we don't really have anyone with both knowledge and time to make that happen, so we go for next best
[2023-11-09 18:55:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| implementing something in client would be great, but we don't really have anyone with both knowledge and time to make that happen, so we go for next best
[2023-11-09 18:56:07] <Lucifer_arma> @Nanu: what do you mean by queue system?  Are you talking about for the pickup games?  (We did have an irc pickup bot at one point, dunno what happened to it, epsy managed it)
[2023-11-09 18:56:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @Nanu: what do you mean by queue system?  Are you talking about for the pickup games?  (We did have an irc pickup bot at one point, dunno what happened to it, epsy managed it)
[2023-11-09 18:56:10] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i understand
[2023-11-09 18:56:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i understand
[2023-11-09 18:56:52] <Lucifer_arma> I understand the discord choice.  I'm not bitching about other people using it, I'm saying I'm not going to.  I'm much more likely to write code to make discord obsolete than use it myself.
[2023-11-09 18:56:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I understand the discord choice.  I'm not bitching about other people using it, I'm saying I'm not going to.  I'm much more likely to write code to make discord obsolete than use it myself.
[2023-11-09 18:56:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Yea like pickup games, and I know irc works but discord has been huge in bringing back activity to the game
[2023-11-09 18:56:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Yea like pickup games, and I know irc works but discord has been huge in bringing back activity to the game
[2023-11-09 18:57:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| gotcha
[2023-11-09 18:57:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| gotcha
[2023-11-09 18:57:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @Juesto bridging with pickup is on the back burner. It would require some sort of user creation process that would have to be babied somewhat, because we use matchmaking that, at present, relies on discord user IDs. We'd need to change that and create a user *object* that can support either a discord ID or IRC ident, or both, and also implement some logic to prevent people adding <clipped message>
[2023-11-09 18:57:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @Juesto bridging with pickup is on the back burner. It would require some sort of user creation process that would have to be babied somewhat, because we use matchmaking that, at present, relies on discord user IDs. We'd need to change that and create a user *object* that can support either a discord ID or IRC ident, or both, and also implement some logic to prevent people adding <clipped message>
[2023-11-09 18:57:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent|  twice. Some of the DB stuff is already implemented on my server, but we're talking about three separate projects, run by three separate people, and on three different codebases. It's not going to happen quickly, in all honesty
[2023-11-09 18:57:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent|  twice. Some of the DB stuff is already implemented on my server, but we're talking about three separate projects, run by three separate people, and on three different codebases. It's not going to happen quickly, in all honesty
[2023-11-09 18:57:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| we'd also need to figure out a reminder subtask that can join IRC and pm users there
[2023-11-09 18:57:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| we'd also need to figure out a reminder subtask that can join IRC and pm users there
[2023-11-09 18:57:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that part isnt hard
[2023-11-09 18:57:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that part isnt hard
[2023-11-09 18:57:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but the whole process just takes *time*
[2023-11-09 18:57:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but the whole process just takes *time*
[2023-11-09 18:57:57] <Lucifer_arma> anybody happen to know if there's a python module that provides the discord protocol?
[2023-11-09 18:57:58] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| anybody happen to know if there's a python module that provides the discord protocol?
[2023-11-09 18:58:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes
[2023-11-09 18:58:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes
[2023-11-09 18:58:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| its called discord
[2023-11-09 18:58:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| its called discord
[2023-11-09 18:58:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| pip -m install discord
[2023-11-09 18:58:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| pip -m install discord
[2023-11-09 18:58:39] <Lucifer_arma> https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
[2023-11-09 18:58:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
[2023-11-09 18:59:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| as for the time investment thing, I'm currently putting just about all my brain taime into development of my own business offering, so anything bigger than a small implementation like Rinzler is a big ask at the moment
[2023-11-09 18:59:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| as for the time investment thing, I'm currently putting just about all my brain taime into development of my own business offering, so anything bigger than a small implementation like Rinzler is a big ask at the moment
[2023-11-09 18:59:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma yeah that one
[2023-11-09 18:59:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma yeah that one
[2023-11-09 18:59:58] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you're going to make an account and grab the token, inevitable use of the website
[2023-11-09 18:59:59] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you're going to make an account and grab the token, inevitable use of the website
[2023-11-09 19:01:01] <Lucifer_arma> looks like the old supybot has been forked because of lack of maintenance.  Now it's limnoria
[2023-11-09 19:01:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| looks like the old supybot has been forked because of lack of maintenance.  Now it's limnoria
[2023-11-09 19:02:23] <Lucifer_arma> also, on the whole discord vs irc question, I don't like either, to be honest.  Irc just happens to be pretty convenient, but when the freenode thing happened, it showed the weakness in irc
[2023-11-09 19:02:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, on the whole discord vs irc question, I don't like either, to be honest.  Irc just happens to be pretty convenient, but when the freenode thing happened, it showed the weakness in irc
[2023-11-09 19:02:32] <Lucifer_arma> what we really need is something discord-sized, but open
[2023-11-09 19:02:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| what we really need is something discord-sized, but open
[2023-11-09 19:02:56] <Lucifer_arma> again, something that doesn't exist, because if it did, we'd all be there right now instead of having *this* conversaiton :)
[2023-11-09 19:02:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| again, something that doesn't exist, because if it did, we'd all be there right now instead of having *this* conversaiton :)
[2023-11-09 19:03:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma here's the basics for making discord python stuff work. Making a bot is a bit of a pisstake on the platform itself but this should get you going quick enough
[2023-11-09 19:03:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma here's the basics for making discord python stuff work. Making a bot is a bit of a pisstake on the platform itself but this should get you going quick enough
[2023-11-09 19:03:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://vixen.international/assets/pub/discordbasics.py
[2023-11-09 19:03:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://vixen.international/assets/pub/discordbasics.py
[2023-11-09 19:03:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh it does exist, but discord shattered the market
[2023-11-09 19:03:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh it does exist, but discord shattered the market
[2023-11-09 19:03:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Revolt is the open source discord
[2023-11-09 19:03:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Revolt is the open source discord
[2023-11-09 19:03:44] <Lucifer_arma> I was actually considering the idea of putting discord into supybot/limnoria and using that for the bridge
[2023-11-09 19:03:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was actually considering the idea of putting discord into supybot/limnoria and using that for the bridge
[2023-11-09 19:04:44] <Lucifer_arma> or, what would really be best, is if there's a bridge that can connect to both discord and irc as the respective users.  One serious limitation of this bridge is that I have no idea who's on the discord side of the bridge
[2023-11-09 19:04:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| or, what would really be best, is if there's a bridge that can connect to both discord and irc as the respective users.  One serious limitation of this bridge is that I have no idea who's on the discord side of the bridge
[2023-11-09 19:04:53] <Lucifer_arma> presumably, people on discord don't know who's on the irc side
[2023-11-09 19:04:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| presumably, people on discord don't know who's on the irc side
[2023-11-09 19:05:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| oh does it not show some sort of prefix, on here we see ex: irc | Lucifer_arma
[2023-11-09 19:05:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| oh does it not show some sort of prefix, on here we see ex: irc | Lucifer_arma
[2023-11-09 19:06:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It does, what Lucier wants is the full userlist. It's not impossible - I could conceivably configure rinzler to enumerate a full list and pipe it via PM maybe
[2023-11-09 19:06:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It does, what Lucier wants is the full userlist. It's not impossible - I could conceivably configure rinzler to enumerate a full list and pipe it via PM maybe
[2023-11-09 19:06:46] <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that it's worth the time right now, tbf
[2023-11-09 19:06:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't know that it's worth the time right now, tbf
[2023-11-09 19:06:53] <Lucifer_arma> we've both got our own high priority stuff going on :)
[2023-11-09 19:06:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we've both got our own high priority stuff going on :)
[2023-11-09 19:07:02] <Lucifer_arma> I think the lowest hanging fruit here is the lua stuff I was looking at yesterday
[2023-11-09 19:07:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think the lowest hanging fruit here is the lua stuff I was looking at yesterday
[2023-11-09 19:07:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya I had the same thought when it was first brought up, but it isn't worth it until IRC is more heavily populated I don;'t think
[2023-11-09 19:07:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya I had the same thought when it was first brought up, but it isn't worth it until IRC is more heavily populated I don;'t think
[2023-11-09 19:08:09] <Lucifer_arma> I'll look and see if there's a lua module that gives discord/irc protocols.  If there is, that'll make the decision pretty easy.  Then I'll look into adding hooks to arma.
[2023-11-09 19:08:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll look and see if there's a lua module that gives discord/irc protocols.  If there is, that'll make the decision pretty easy.  Then I'll look into adding hooks to arma.
[2023-11-09 19:08:15] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you dont need to make a bot, but its riskier to use a user bot
[2023-11-09 19:08:15] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you dont need to make a bot, but its riskier to use a user bot
[2023-11-09 19:08:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the issue with Discord is that it's not always easy to enumerate the user's display name either - you might have noticed, for example, that tanner is represented in IRC by his username rather than his display name
[2023-11-09 19:08:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the issue with Discord is that it's not always easy to enumerate the user's display name either - you might have noticed, for example, that tanner is represented in IRC by his username rather than his display name
[2023-11-09 19:09:14] <Lucifer_arma> well, to make the pickup thing happen, script hooks in arma would make the teams happen, and all that needs to happen in discord/irc is let people know there's a pickup happening
[2023-11-09 19:09:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, to make the pickup thing happen, script hooks in arma would make the teams happen, and all that needs to happen in discord/irc is let people know there's a pickup happening
[2023-11-09 19:09:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ah, we don't do the picking in-server anymore, it's handled automatically now
[2023-11-09 19:09:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ah, we don't do the picking in-server anymore, it's handled automatically now
[2023-11-09 19:09:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| it says you have to make a bot because its the way to go but before bots you could use your user token and have a user bot, its still a valid avenue today but you'll get suspended if caught abusing or something
[2023-11-09 19:09:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| it says you have to make a bot because its the way to go but before bots you could use your user token and have a user bot, its still a valid avenue today but you'll get suspended if caught abusing or something
[2023-11-09 19:10:14] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| just make a irc bot that communicates with the bot on discord
[2023-11-09 19:10:14] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| just make a irc bot that communicates with the bot on discord
[2023-11-09 19:10:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I haven't looked at them closely, but there are open source front ends for Discord if that helps:
[2023-11-09 19:10:28] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I haven't looked at them closely, but there are open source front ends for Discord if that helps:
[2023-11-09 19:10:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://github.com/GooseMod/OpenAsar
[2023-11-09 19:10:28] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://github.com/GooseMod/OpenAsar
[2023-11-09 19:10:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://github.com/diamondburned/gtkcord4
[2023-11-09 19:10:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://github.com/diamondburned/gtkcord4
[2023-11-09 19:10:39] <Lucifer_arma> I can give any of them a try
[2023-11-09 19:10:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I can give any of them a try
[2023-11-09 19:10:58] <Lucifer_arma> @sine.wav: hey, that package went out to fredricksburg for some reason.  Is it USPS being weird?
[2023-11-09 19:10:58] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @sine.wav: hey, that package went out to fredricksburg for some reason.  Is it USPS being weird?
[2023-11-09 19:11:11] <Lucifer_arma> there are irc and discord frameworks for lua
[2023-11-09 19:11:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| there are irc and discord frameworks for lua
[2023-11-09 19:15:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Looks like it's just a distribution center. I'm guessing it'll get to Austin tomorrow or Saturday?
[2023-11-09 19:15:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Looks like it's just a distribution center. I'm guessing it'll get to Austin tomorrow or Saturday?
[2023-11-09 19:16:05] <Lucifer_arma> @delinquent: yeah, but the picking is in discord, near as I can tell.  It's also silly that someone sitting in a server has to leave for the match to start.
[2023-11-09 19:16:05] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @delinquent: yeah, but the picking is in discord, near as I can tell.  It's also silly that someone sitting in a server has to leave for the match to start.
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[2023-11-09 19:16:37] <Lucifer_arma> @sine.wav: it went to austin already, then out to fredericksburg, which looks pretty silly to me.  I'm thinking it just got loaded onto the wrong truck.
[2023-11-09 19:16:38] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @sine.wav: it went to austin already, then out to fredericksburg, which looks pretty silly to me.  I'm thinking it just got loaded onto the wrong truck.
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[2023-11-09 19:24:56] <Lucifer_arma> but tonight I have to make a book cover and get this story up on amazon for people to read
[2023-11-09 19:24:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but tonight I have to make a book cover and get this story up on amazon for people to read
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[2023-11-09 20:10:53] <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's done.  In up to 72 hours, you'll be able to buy my new ebook on amazon
[2023-11-09 20:10:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, it's done.  In up to 72 hours, you'll be able to buy my new ebook on amazon
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[2023-11-09 22:06:40] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLL25G7F/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1699585566&sr=8-1
[2023-11-09 22:06:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLL25G7F/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1699585566&sr=8-1
[2023-11-09 22:08:50] <Lucifer_arma> so it's up and ready to buy now.  :)
[2023-11-09 22:08:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so it's up and ready to buy now.  :)
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