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[2023-11-05 00:02:35] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| heh
[2023-11-05 00:02:35] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| heh
[2023-11-05 00:03:35] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| that midi controller could be worth a try but i have my doubts on the keys quality and stuff
[2023-11-05 00:03:35] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| that midi controller could be worth a try but i have my doubts on the keys quality and stuff
[2023-11-05 00:03:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| try checking reviews on youtube Lucifer_arma
[2023-11-05 00:03:47] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| try checking reviews on youtube Lucifer_arma
[2023-11-05 00:04:38] <Lucifer_arma> I just need a decent input device.  Really, I'm considering maybe coloring keys on my keyboard and mapping them to piano keys and just using that
[2023-11-05 00:04:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I just need a decent input device.  Really, I'm considering maybe coloring keys on my keyboard and mapping them to piano keys and just using that
[2023-11-05 00:06:53] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| thats worse than a midi controller
[2023-11-05 00:06:53] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| thats worse than a midi controller
[2023-11-05 00:07:07] <Lucifer_arma> yes, yes it is
[2023-11-05 00:07:07] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yes, yes it is
[2023-11-05 00:07:42] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| many daws have options to use the computer keyboard as midi input
[2023-11-05 00:07:42] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| many daws have options to use the computer keyboard as midi input
[2023-11-05 00:07:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| audacity is going to be a bit painful to work with
[2023-11-05 00:07:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| audacity is going to be a bit painful to work with
[2023-11-05 00:08:08] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you can only do audio there
[2023-11-05 00:08:08] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you can only do audio there
[2023-11-05 00:08:11] <Lucifer_arma> audacity is great if you're using recorded tracks
[2023-11-05 00:08:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| audacity is great if you're using recorded tracks
[2023-11-05 00:08:18] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i guess
[2023-11-05 00:08:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i guess
[2023-11-05 00:08:22] <Lucifer_arma> I used to use ecasound to capture the tracks and audacity to master them
[2023-11-05 00:08:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I used to use ecasound to capture the tracks and audacity to master them
[2023-11-05 00:13:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| cool
[2023-11-05 00:13:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| cool
[2023-11-05 00:24:10] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:tannermon11| yea it's one with an rpg in it
[2023-11-05 00:24:11] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:tannermon11| yea it's one with an rpg in it
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[2023-11-05 01:53:08] <Lucifer_arma> I couldn't figure out how to do anything.  Does a level 1 have anything they can do?
[2023-11-05 01:53:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I couldn't figure out how to do anything.  Does a level 1 have anything they can do?
[2023-11-05 01:53:15] <Lucifer_arma> also, I wanted Xp's a little faster.  :)
[2023-11-05 01:53:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, I wanted Xp's a little faster.  :)
[2023-11-05 01:53:37] <Lucifer_arma> is there a reference somewhere?  I'd try again if I could make some instant chats for the special skills stuff
[2023-11-05 01:53:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| is there a reference somewhere?  I'd try again if I could make some instant chats for the special skills stuff
[2023-11-05 01:54:14] <Lucifer_arma> I liked the idea a lot.  I kept wondering "If I crash into the wall hard enough, will it split?  Is there a secret passage?"
[2023-11-05 01:54:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I liked the idea a lot.  I kept wondering "If I crash into the wall hard enough, will it split?  Is there a secret passage?"
[2023-11-05 01:54:43] <Lucifer_arma> also, you might consider using zones v2 for it (in 0.4) instead of what you're doing.  You can have arbitrarily shaped zones
[2023-11-05 01:54:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, you might consider using zones v2 for it (in 0.4) instead of what you're doing.  You can have arbitrarily shaped zones
[2023-11-05 01:54:50] <Lucifer_arma> different built-in effects
[2023-11-05 01:54:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| different built-in effects
[2023-11-05 01:00:36] <Lucifer_arma> also, on a side note, is there a list somewhere of what's in sty+ct+ap?  Especially a list of what's in there that's *not* in 0.4?
[2023-11-05 01:00:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, on a side note, is there a list somewhere of what's in sty+ct+ap?  Especially a list of what's in there that's *not* in 0.4?
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[2023-11-05 01:46:31] <Lucifer_arma> anybody have yellow submarine settings laying around?
[2023-11-05 01:46:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| anybody have yellow submarine settings laying around?
[2023-11-05 01:46:55] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: if I build the server and install it, do I get a systemd object?  Or do we still need to make that?
[2023-11-05 01:46:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Z-Man: if I build the server and install it, do I get a systemd object?  Or do we still need to make that?
[2023-11-05 02:03:39] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: also, is there an ubuntu package automatically built for 0.4/trunk?
[2023-11-05 02:03:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Z-Man: also, is there an ubuntu package automatically built for 0.4/trunk?
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[2023-11-05 04:03:14] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:tannermon11| u get a good chunk of xp for winning the match, per kill, items can increase xp, or give levels, aalso completing quests usually give xp. the first move is at lvl 2. it could be neat to shape the zones instead of generic circles but I cant recall what downsides there could be of using those zones.
[2023-11-05 04:03:16] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:tannermon11| u get a good chunk of xp for winning the match, per kill, items can increase xp, or give levels, aalso completing quests usually give xp. the first move is at lvl 2. it could be neat to shape the zones instead of generic circles but I cant recall what downsides there could be of using those zones.
[2023-11-05 04:10:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:tannermon11| yea I would say instant chats are super useful for common moves or item usage. if you kill all 3 ai's per round it's should be enough xp for +4 lvls at the beginning after winning the 10 round match
[2023-11-05 04:10:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:tannermon11| yea I would say instant chats are super useful for common moves or item usage. if you kill all 3 ai's per round it's should be enough xp for +4 lvls at the beginning after winning the 10 round match
[2023-11-05 04:17:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:tannermon11| glad to hear you liked the idea. I almost thought about using a non-standard map but havnt made one myself yet and none that i think i have found that would be nice to use for the concept
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[2023-11-05 09:44:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma if yellow sub was the same as classic sub, then I have the US one up and running. P4 is running the EU one
[2023-11-05 09:44:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma if yellow sub was the same as classic sub, then I have the US one up and running. P4 is running the EU one
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[2023-11-05 12:09:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @zman_0 I seem to recall you no longer hosting GER, is that correct?
[2023-11-05 12:09:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @zman_0 I seem to recall you no longer hosting GER, is that correct?
[2023-11-05 12:13:58] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: I don't know what a systemd object is, so probably not? We have old school init scripts.
[2023-11-05 12:13:58] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Lucifer_arma: I don't know what a systemd object is, so probably not? We have old school init scripts.
[2023-11-05 12:15:27] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| And yeah, 0.4 builds are in this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa as armagetronad-experimental.
[2023-11-05 12:15:27] <Z-Man> And yeah, 0.4 builds are in this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa as armagetronad-experimental. 
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[2023-11-05 12:31:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| lucifer_arma do you mean a systemd service?
[2023-11-05 12:31:11] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| lucifer_arma do you mean a systemd service?
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[2023-11-05 12:31:26] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| z-man, would it work easily on openrc and such?
[2023-11-05 12:31:26] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| z-man, would it work easily on openrc and such?
[2023-11-05 12:55:00] <Z-Man> dunno. I always just run my servers in screen sessions.
[2023-11-05 12:55:00] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| dunno. I always just run my servers in screen sessions.
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[2023-11-05 19:12:45] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| oh cool
[2023-11-05 19:12:45] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| oh cool
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[2023-11-05 19:48:04] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| heh
[2023-11-05 19:48:04] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| heh
[2023-11-05 19:48:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| maybe check out ardour as well?
[2023-11-05 19:48:12] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| maybe check out ardour as well?
[2023-11-05 19:50:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if it has a linux client maybe
[2023-11-05 19:50:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if it has a linux client maybe
[2023-11-05 19:50:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I gotta get thsi dac first
[2023-11-05 19:50:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I gotta get thsi dac first
[2023-11-05 19:59:22] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ardour is on linux yeah
[2023-11-05 19:59:22] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ardour is on linux yeah
[2023-11-05 19:59:31] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its the other FOSS DAW
[2023-11-05 19:59:35] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| well kinda
[2023-11-05 19:59:42] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its closed source but its praised for linux use
[2023-11-05 19:59:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| sorry i misspoke
[2023-11-05 19:59:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its the other FOSS DAW
[2023-11-05 19:59:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| well kinda
[2023-11-05 19:59:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its closed source but its praised for linux use
[2023-11-05 19:59:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| sorry i misspoke
[2023-11-05 20:00:03] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| dont remember the fine details through i could be wrong on what i said
[2023-11-05 20:00:03] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| dont remember the fine details through i could be wrong on what i said
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[2023-11-05 21:21:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| OK let the resident Linux audio expert (me) clarify some stuff. Ardour is THE Linux DAW, meaning it was born of Linux and is the most stable and polished of all the LInux DAWs, created by Paul Davis who also wrote JACK sound server. It's open source, but ready-to-run binaries are available on a subscription model. A lot of repositories have Ardour, but it's usually an older versi <clipped message>
[2023-11-05 21:21:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| on since the software is actively developed and newer means less stable.
[2023-11-05 21:21:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| OK let the resident Linux audio expert (me) clarify some stuff. Ardour is THE Linux DAW, meaning it was born of Linux and is the most stable and polished of all the LInux DAWs, created by Paul Davis who also wrote JACK sound server. It's open source, but ready-to-run binaries are available on a subscription model. A lot of repositories have Ardour, but it's usually an older versi <clipped message>
[2023-11-05 21:21:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| on since the software is actively developed and newer means less stable.
[2023-11-05 21:24:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That said, more and more DAWs that were previously Win/Mac are making native Linux builds. I just happen to like Reaper the best since I've used many, many, many DAWs in my life and it has both the capabilities and workflow that suit me.
[2023-11-05 21:24:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That said, more and more DAWs that were previously Win/Mac are making native Linux builds. I just happen to like Reaper the best since I've used many, many, many DAWs in my life and it has both the capabilities and workflow that suit me.
[2023-11-05 23:02:19] <Lucifer_arma> @sine.wav: address sent
[2023-11-05 23:02:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @sine.wav: address sent
[2023-11-05 23:02:23] <Lucifer_arma> thank you!
[2023-11-05 23:02:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| thank you!
[2023-11-05 23:03:01] <Lucifer_arma> For basses, I'm pretty flexible.  Black/purple, prefer humbuckers.  The one I used to use was an ibanez.  I like smaller bodies, but as long as it's not too heavy (like my last bass, an old Cort), I'm fine.
[2023-11-05 23:03:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| For basses, I'm pretty flexible.  Black/purple, prefer humbuckers.  The one I used to use was an ibanez.  I like smaller bodies, but as long as it's not too heavy (like my last bass, an old Cort), I'm fine.
[2023-11-05 23:03:46] <Lucifer_arma> For guitars, I'm pretty picky.  The Warlock isn't metal enough, I don't think, but I'd take a warlock as long as it didn't have any string buzzing and the electronics worked.  Black.  If it's not black, I may not like it at all.
[2023-11-05 23:03:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| For guitars, I'm pretty picky.  The Warlock isn't metal enough, I don't think, but I'd take a warlock as long as it didn't have any string buzzing and the electronics worked.  Black.  If it's not black, I may not like it at all.
[2023-11-05 23:03:54] <Lucifer_arma> You remember my old ironbird?
[2023-11-05 23:03:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| You remember my old ironbird?
[2023-11-05 23:04:10] <Lucifer_arma> That's the one I still have that I took apart back when I was just starting to become an alcoholic and still haven't put back together.
[2023-11-05 23:04:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| That's the one I still have that I took apart back when I was just starting to become an alcoholic and still haven't put back together.
[2023-11-05 23:05:11] <Lucifer_arma> Still, I'll take any guitar that looks like a metal guitar, is black (or purple, or a nice blue), and works.  I really don't like Strats or anything strat-adjacent, and if it looks like John Lennon would have played it, I probably won't
[2023-11-05 23:05:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Still, I'll take any guitar that looks like a metal guitar, is black (or purple, or a nice blue), and works.  I really don't like Strats or anything strat-adjacent, and if it looks like John Lennon would have played it, I probably won't
[2023-11-05 23:05:30] <Lucifer_arma> not trying to be too picky here, but I know neither you nor any of your friends want to gift someone a guitar they won't actually play ;)
[2023-11-05 23:05:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| not trying to be too picky here, but I know neither you nor any of your friends want to gift someone a guitar they won't actually play ;)
[2023-11-05 23:06:14] <Lucifer_arma> I should probably check Ardour out again.  For awhile I was checking it out every few years, but since I tore down my guitar, I haven't been using any audio software at all
[2023-11-05 23:06:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I should probably check Ardour out again.  For awhile I was checking it out every few years, but since I tore down my guitar, I haven't been using any audio software at all
[2023-11-05 23:06:38] <Lucifer_arma> The song I wrote for Crimson Fields I did with Rosegarden.  For technical reasons, that game needed the music to be MIDI only.  No recording.
[2023-11-05 23:06:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| The song I wrote for Crimson Fields I did with Rosegarden.  For technical reasons, that game needed the music to be MIDI only.  No recording.
[2023-11-05 23:08:21] <Lucifer_arma> I've heard a lot about Reaper, but I still do everything I can to avoid closed source apps, and last I heard, Reaper is closed source
[2023-11-05 23:08:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've heard a lot about Reaper, but I still do everything I can to avoid closed source apps, and last I heard, Reaper is closed source
[2023-11-05 23:09:08] <Lucifer_arma> I'll got and learn Ardour and Muse before I take a serious look at Reaper.  I'm sure it's great, but my needs aren't that great and there's no reason the open source offerings can't meet them
[2023-11-05 23:09:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll got and learn Ardour and Muse before I take a serious look at Reaper.  I'm sure it's great, but my needs aren't that great and there's no reason the open source offerings can't meet them
[2023-11-05 23:10:16] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| https://github.com/luong-komorebi/Awesome-Linux-Software#edit-mix-record
[2023-11-05 23:10:17] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| https://github.com/luong-komorebi/Awesome-Linux-Software#edit-mix-record
[2023-11-05 23:10:38] <Lucifer_arma> and in complete honesty, with a midi controller, the options are pretty open for what I can do using Rosegarden and Hydrogen.  I'll go digging around for a soundfont editor (there are several, zynaddsubfx comes to mind, or swami)
[2023-11-05 23:10:38] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| and in complete honesty, with a midi controller, the options are pretty open for what I can do using Rosegarden and Hydrogen.  I'll go digging around for a soundfont editor (there are several, zynaddsubfx comes to mind, or swami)
[2023-11-05 23:10:57] <Lucifer_arma> Pretty sure lots of tracker apps take midi input as well
[2023-11-05 23:10:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Pretty sure lots of tracker apps take midi input as well
[2023-11-05 23:11:50] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| modplug and openmpt for sure
[2023-11-05 23:11:51] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| modplug and openmpt for sure
[2023-11-05 23:12:06] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| and both have ties into jack and pulse fwiw
[2023-11-05 23:12:06] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| and both have ties into jack and pulse fwiw
[2023-11-05 23:13:00] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linuxaudio
[2023-11-05 23:13:00] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linuxaudio
[2023-11-05 23:13:48] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| that last link is basically a gold mine for your intentions Luci
[2023-11-05 23:13:49] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| that last link is basically a gold mine for your intentions Luci
[2023-11-05 23:15:18] <Lucifer_arma> I think I should give lmms another shot.  Last time I tried, it was difficult to use
[2023-11-05 23:15:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think I should give lmms another shot.  Last time I tried, it was difficult to use
[2023-11-05 23:15:27] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| it still is
[2023-11-05 23:15:28] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| it still is
[2023-11-05 23:15:32] <Lucifer_arma> but I was also expecting an audacity-like workflow
[2023-11-05 23:15:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but I was also expecting an audacity-like workflow
[2023-11-05 23:15:33] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| and arduour you have to selfcompile
[2023-11-05 23:15:34] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| and arduour you have to selfcompile
[2023-11-05 23:15:41] <Lucifer_arma> oh, I can build ardour if I need to
[2023-11-05 23:15:42] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| oh, I can build ardour if I need to
[2023-11-05 23:15:42] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| no bins without pro
[2023-11-05 23:15:42] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| no bins without pro
[2023-11-05 23:16:55] <Lucifer_arma> it has been a few since I last built ardour, but I can build it :)
[2023-11-05 23:16:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it has been a few since I last built ardour, but I can build it :)
[2023-11-05 23:20:35] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I'll start working on my own DAW.  Or look at some of these for what I want.
[2023-11-05 23:20:36] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| maybe I'll start working on my own DAW.  Or look at some of these for what I want.
[2023-11-05 23:20:47] <Lucifer_arma> See, I'd like to write a script that gets rendered to a song
[2023-11-05 23:20:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| See, I'd like to write a script that gets rendered to a song
[2023-11-05 23:23:47] <Lucifer_arma> since the music I write follows particular structures, I'd like to be able to create a file that defines what's in each part
[2023-11-05 23:23:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| since the music I write follows particular structures, I'd like to be able to create a file that defines what's in each part
[2023-11-05 23:23:58] <Lucifer_arma> so, maybe there's a first movement, second movement, b-section, final movement
[2023-11-05 23:23:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so, maybe there's a first movement, second movement, b-section, final movement
[2023-11-05 23:24:11] <Lucifer_arma> or it's verse, prechorus, chorus, b-section, instrumental
[2023-11-05 23:24:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| or it's verse, prechorus, chorus, b-section, instrumental
[2023-11-05 23:24:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| programmatic audio is absolutely a thing fwiw
[2023-11-05 23:24:13] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| programmatic audio is absolutely a thing fwiw
[2023-11-05 23:24:23] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| hydrogen / csound / puresound etc
[2023-11-05 23:24:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| hydrogen / csound / puresound etc
[2023-11-05 23:25:38] <Lucifer_arma> Hydrogen?  No way.  One of the reasons I walked away from Hydrogen was because everybody dumped on my "let's build in structure" idea to the point where I was looking at writing it and submitting a patch, and comix told me he wouldn't accept it if I wrote it
[2023-11-05 23:25:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Hydrogen?  No way.  One of the reasons I walked away from Hydrogen was because everybody dumped on my "let's build in structure" idea to the point where I was looking at writing it and submitting a patch, and comix told me he wouldn't accept it if I wrote it
[2023-11-05 23:26:24] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| upstream battles in audio are as stringent as kernel upstreams. youll always find some asshole willing to push opionated code up and down
[2023-11-05 23:26:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:zebrafish.| upstream battles in audio are as stringent as kernel upstreams. youll always find some asshole willing to push opionated code up and down
[2023-11-05 23:26:54] <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I want to be able to define a "feel", like "swing" or "blues" or "sousa" or "iron maiden" etc.  Declare structure and tempo for each section, like in an xml document or ini file
[2023-11-05 23:26:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| anyway, I want to be able to define a "feel", like "swing" or "blues" or "sousa" or "iron maiden" etc.  Declare structure and tempo for each section, like in an xml document or ini file
[2023-11-05 23:27:57] <Lucifer_arma> the deciding factor for me and hydrogen was when someone insisted that drumkits shouldn't have roles, instead the instrument would be hard-coded, and I said there should be roles, so that if you have a drumline from someone, you can load up your own kit and hear how it sounds on that kit
[2023-11-05 23:27:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the deciding factor for me and hydrogen was when someone insisted that drumkits shouldn't have roles, instead the instrument would be hard-coded, and I said there should be roles, so that if you have a drumline from someone, you can load up your own kit and hear how it sounds on that kit
[2023-11-05 23:28:14] <Lucifer_arma> I got overruled (I wasn't an actual developer with them, mind you), and I left.
[2023-11-05 23:28:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I got overruled (I wasn't an actual developer with them, mind you), and I left.
[2023-11-05 23:28:31] <Lucifer_arma> I *think* they ended up doing what I suggested after going down a significant blind alley, and I don't even know if comix is still part of the project
[2023-11-05 23:28:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I *think* they ended up doing what I suggested after going down a significant blind alley, and I don't even know if comix is still part of the project
[2023-11-05 23:28:51] <Lucifer_arma> he was cool, it was other people I had trouble with
[2023-11-05 23:28:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| he was cool, it was other people I had trouble with
[2023-11-05 23:29:02] <Lucifer_arma> I still use hydrogen from time to time, because there's no better drum sequencer out there
[2023-11-05 23:29:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I still use hydrogen from time to time, because there's no better drum sequencer out there
[2023-11-05 23:35:13] <Lucifer_arma> @tannermon11: I'll think about it and maybe I'll put a map together.  I have to think about the concept some more.  I always wanted a story mode for this game.  :)
[2023-11-05 23:35:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @tannermon11: I'll think about it and maybe I'll put a map together.  I have to think about the concept some more.  I always wanted a story mode for this game.  :)
[2023-11-05 23:35:45] <Lucifer_arma> @delinquent: I wanted the yellow sub config because I wanted to derive a new Breakfast in Hell from it, but then I found that Breakfast in Hell is in the repository.  I forgot I put it there.
[2023-11-05 23:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @delinquent: I wanted the yellow sub config because I wanted to derive a new Breakfast in Hell from it, but then I found that Breakfast in Hell is in the repository.  I forgot I put it there.
[2023-11-05 23:36:32] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: systemd is canonical's replacement for sys v scripts :)
[2023-11-05 23:36:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Z-Man: systemd is canonical's replacement for sys v scripts :)
[2023-11-05 23:38:02] <Lucifer_arma> I'll play around with that a bit, but I'm not sure arma translates directly to a systemd object.  We need a server starter of some sort that creates subprocesses for actual game servers, if we want it to make sense in a systemd context
[2023-11-05 23:38:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll play around with that a bit, but I'm not sure arma translates directly to a systemd object.  We need a server starter of some sort that creates subprocesses for actual game servers, if we want it to make sense in a systemd context
[2023-11-05 23:39:11] <Lucifer_arma> I could throw together a python program to do that, but I have to consider it against my other priorities.  Maybe I'll just screen it, for now
[2023-11-05 23:39:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I could throw together a python program to do that, but I have to consider it against my other priorities.  Maybe I'll just screen it, for now
[2023-11-05 23:47:56] <Lucifer_arma> guru3_: hey, whenever you're back doing that person's name change on the forums, can you remove the "Local moonshiner" from my profile?  I tried to remove it myself, but apparently I can't.  I don't think a recovering alcoholic should be referred to as a local moonshiner...
[2023-11-05 23:47:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| guru3_: hey, whenever you're back doing that person's name change on the forums, can you remove the "Local moonshiner" from my profile?  I tried to remove it myself, but apparently I can't.  I don't think a recovering alcoholic should be referred to as a local moonshiner...
[2023-11-05 23:50:28] <Lucifer_arma> @Juesto: They're called "objects" for some reason.  They're not strictly limited to services.
[2023-11-05 23:50:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @Juesto: They're called "objects" for some reason.  They're not strictly limited to services.
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