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[2023-10-27 02:30:18] <armagetronbridge> 02irc:guru3_| Lucifer_arma: added
[2023-10-27 02:30:28] <guru3_> Lucifer_arma: added
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[2023-10-27 07:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| thanks guru3_
[2023-10-27 07:53:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| thanks guru3_
[2023-10-27 08:03:40] <Z-Man> I know nothing about IRC admin, do I still need to do something?
[2023-10-27 08:03:40] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| I know nothing about IRC admin, do I still need to do something?
[2023-10-27 08:05:31] <Z-Man> Our infrastructure on the big hosters, since it came up: We use Sourceforge as a convenient file archive.  None of the other services works as well for that.
[2023-10-27 08:05:32] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Our infrastructure on the big hosters, since it came up: We use Sourceforge as a convenient file archive.  None of the other services works as well for that.
[2023-10-27 08:10:14] <Z-Man> Launchpad is mostly used for the PPAs for Ubuntu users, but we also store releases there, and since it is faster than Sourceforge, our download links from the main page go there. Also, we still mirror our source to bzr branches there and that is still two way.
[2023-10-27 08:10:15] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Launchpad is mostly used for the PPAs for Ubuntu users, but we also store releases there, and since it is faster than Sourceforge, our download links from the main page go there. Also, we still mirror our source to bzr branches there and that is still two way.
[2023-10-27 08:11:22] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Main hub is Gitlab. Chosen over Github because of the Microsoft thing and because at that time, it had better CI. I think Github Actions did not even exist, people were using third party services.
[2023-10-27 08:11:23] <Z-Man> Main hub is Gitlab. Chosen over Github because of the Microsoft thing and because at that time, it had better CI. I think Github Actions did not even exist, people were using third party services.
[2023-10-27 08:12:52] <Z-Man> Github is used as a mirror. It's also two way, so we can in theory accept PRs there. Also, AppImageHub, when I integrated our AppImage there, basically required hosting the AppImages on Github releases, that is why they exist. And why I forgot about them. Stupid manual processes.
[2023-10-27 08:12:53] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Github is used as a mirror. It's also two way, so we can in theory accept PRs there. Also, AppImageHub, when I integrated our AppImage there, basically required hosting the AppImages on Github releases, that is why they exist. And why I forgot about them. Stupid manual processes.
[2023-10-27 08:14:10] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| THen we have our own infrastructure at download.armagetronad.org, filled by GitLab CI. Also holds our private flatpak repository.
[2023-10-27 08:14:10] <Z-Man> THen we have our own infrastructure at download.armagetronad.org, filled by GitLab CI. Also holds our private flatpak repository.
[2023-10-27 08:23:09] <Z-Man> Also, Flathub. That is pull based, however. When we have a full release, we have a git branch with the flatpak build definition in it, and we just bring that into flathub with a pull request.
[2023-10-27 08:23:10] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Also, Flathub. That is pull based, however. When we have a full release, we have a git branch with the flatpak build definition in it, and we just bring that into flathub with a pull request.
[2023-10-27 08:29:26] <Z-Man> Regarding Microsoft, in the PC space, they are mostly benign right now because they realized the user's OS matters a lot less than it used to. But they're still vicious at business. Bought Minecraft and turned it into a shop. Bought Acticision, one of the most toxic game publishers there is. They're still a corporation and not to be trusted; Github is closed source on the server side. Gitlab is open source and if need be, can be hosted on 
[2023-10-27 08:29:26] <Z-Man> premises. There is not even a decision to make here :)
[2023-10-27 08:29:26] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Regarding Microsoft, in the PC space, they are mostly benign right now because they realized the user's OS matters a lot less than it used to. But they're still vicious at business. Bought Minecraft and turned it into a shop. Bought Acticision, one of the most toxic game publishers there is. They're still a corporation and not to be trusted; Github is closed source on the server  <clipped message>
[2023-10-27 08:29:26] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| side. Gitlab is open source and if need be, can be hosted on
[2023-10-27 08:29:28] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| premises. There is not even a decision to make here :)
[2023-10-27 09:24:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Z-Man re: IRC admin, nothing at present. Lucifer is now op'd, all we needed was an extra op or two just in case we have further spam issues. Now that both IRC channels are hooked up to Discord, we can't have anyone falling foul of a phishing scam or another form of attack, especially since Discord's userbase includes the ranges that IRC once did - that being from early teens and up.
[2023-10-27 09:24:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Z-Man re: IRC admin, nothing at present. Lucifer is now op'd, all we needed was an extra op or two just in case we have further spam issues. Now that both IRC channels are hooked up to Discord, we can't have anyone falling foul of a phishing scam or another form of attack, especially since Discord's userbase includes the ranges that IRC once did - that being from early teens and up.
[2023-10-27 09:37:24] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| it should be reported to #oftc
[2023-10-27 09:37:24] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| it should be reported to #oftc
[2023-10-27 10:39:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| thanks for info Z-Man
[2023-10-27 10:39:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| thanks for info Z-Man
[2023-10-27 10:40:01] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| spam should be reported to #oftc
[2023-10-27 10:40:01] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| spam should be reported to #oftc
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[2023-10-27 19:54:08] <Juest> guru3_: your server is outdated :)
[2023-10-27 19:54:08] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| guru3_: your server is outdated :)
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[2023-10-27 22:58:31] -!- Topic for #armagetron is "Armagetron Advanced | http://www.armagetronad.org/ | Welcome to IRC"
[2023-10-27 22:58:31] -!- Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.oftc.net on 2022-12-21 00:36:08 UTC
[2023-10-27 22:58:33] -!- weber.oftc.net set mode #armagetron +nt
[2023-10-27 22:58:33] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-04-20 19:56:37 UTC
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[2023-10-27 22:58:34] -!- silver.libera.chat set mode #armagetron +nt
[2023-10-27 22:58:34] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-05-20 17:23:14 UTC
[2023-10-27 23:28:07] -!- ChanServ set mode #armagetron +o Lucifer_arma
[2023-10-27 23:28:13] -!- Lucifer_arma has kicked Lucifer_arma (User terminated!)
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[2023-10-27 23:28:35] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I can op myself
[2023-10-27 23:28:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, I can op myself
[2023-10-27 23:28:51] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| hey, what happened to the server list?
[2023-10-27 23:28:51] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| hey, what happened to the server list?
[2023-10-27 23:29:02] <Lucifer_arma> is it listless?
[2023-10-27 23:29:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| is it listless?
[2023-10-27 23:29:29] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| on the discord there was a channel that showed the server list via nelgtron api
[2023-10-27 23:29:29] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| on the discord there was a channel that showed the server list via nelgtron api
[2023-10-27 23:30:06] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| you can deop yourself too lucifer_arma :)
[2023-10-27 23:30:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| you can deop yourself too lucifer_arma :)

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