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[2023-10-21 04:43:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Lucifer_arma: Vaguely. I spent a lot of time playing under "player 1" before I looked at the forums. I think I made an account in, what, 2011 or so?
[2023-10-21 04:43:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Lucifer_arma: Vaguely. I spent a lot of time playing under "player 1" before I looked at the forums. I think I made an account in, what, 2011 or so?
[2023-10-21 04:43:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| As for the tabs thing, it doesn't actually have to be that complicated. I use a hidden data field, and then do all the processing that I would normally do on the visible information, on the stuff in the data field. It's essentially the same process, just without any visual indication. A data field would normally run server-side too, or you can separate them both and only communic <clipped message>
[2023-10-21 04:43:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| As for the tabs thing, it doesn't actually have to be that complicated. I use a hidden data field, and then do all the processing that I would normally do on the visible information, on the stuff in the data field. It's essentially the same process, just without any visual indication. A data field would normally run server-side too, or you can separate them both and only communic <clipped message>
[2023-10-21 04:43:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| ate when necessary. When your data is processed into information, just drop it in to the page or use it to update existing page elements. You can even use that, further on, to do some illustrative animation - making visual cues for new information. That way you can have constantly up-to-date data without needing to constantly refresh the page, container, or otherwise visually int <clipped message>
[2023-10-21 04:43:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| ate when necessary. When your data is processed into information, just drop it in to the page or use it to update existing page elements. You can even use that, further on, to do some illustrative animation - making visual cues for new information. That way you can have constantly up-to-date data without needing to constantly refresh the page, container, or otherwise visually int <clipped message>
[2023-10-21 04:43:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| errupt the user.
[2023-10-21 04:43:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| errupt the user.
[2023-10-21 04:44:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Remind me this evening and I'll dig up an old project that used this to do a complete assessment in client-side JS
[2023-10-21 04:44:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Remind me this evening and I'll dig up an old project that used this to do a complete assessment in client-side JS
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[2023-10-21 10:41:45] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| hurray I bought a record off discogs and it wasn't absolutely destroyed!
[2023-10-21 10:41:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| hurray I bought a record off discogs and it wasn't absolutely destroyed!
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[2023-10-21 19:25:20] <Z-Man> mvsc support was ditched way back because for a long time, there was nobody who could maintain it. The very first builds were done in the community edition of Visual Studio 6, and full VS would cost... a thousand bucks? Not entirely sure. It wasn't until later that Visual Studio Express became available, and I think by that time we had already moved to Code::Blocks. I might be confusing things. Anyway, on Windows, managing library
[2023-10-21 19:25:20] <Z-Man> dependencies is a huge pain, and nobody wants to do that for two compilers. (Nowadays, it is feasible with a package manager such as Conan, but that does not integrate well with our build system)
[2023-10-21 19:25:20] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| mvsc support was ditched way back because for a long time, there was nobody who could maintain it. The very first builds were done in the community edition of Visual Studio 6, and full VS would cost... a thousand bucks? Not entirely sure. It wasn't until later that Visual Studio Express became available, and I think by that time we had already moved to Code::Blocks. I might be co <clipped message>
[2023-10-21 19:25:20] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| nfusing things. Anyway, on Windows, managing library
[2023-10-21 19:25:22] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| dependencies is a huge pain, and nobody wants to do that for two compilers. (Nowadays, it is feasible with a package manager such as Conan, but that does not integrate well with our build system)
[2023-10-21 19:28:29] <Z-Man> the sty branches have not been merged with any main branch; I think we nicked a few things here and there. Builds are not prominently available anywhere; they should be available as pipeline artifacts on gitlab, like here: https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/armagetronad/-/pipelines/1016001054 Unfortunately, client builds are currently broken and the thing that would make good artifacts has not yet been merged into sty+ct+ap. So that is no help.
[2023-10-21 19:28:30] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| the sty branches have not been merged with any main branch; I think we nicked a few things here and there. Builds are not prominently available anywhere; they should be available as pipeline artifacts on gitlab, like here: https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/armagetronad/-/pipelines/1016001054 Unfortunately, client builds are currently broken and the thing that would make good artifa <clipped message>
[2023-10-21 19:28:30] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| cts has not yet been merged into sty+ct+ap. So that is no help.
[2023-10-21 19:28:51] <Juest> community edition of vs6? you mean express?
[2023-10-21 19:28:52] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| community edition of vs6? you mean express?
[2023-10-21 19:29:20] <Z-Man> Nope. Express came later.
[2023-10-21 19:29:22] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Nope. Express came later.
[2023-10-21 19:29:25] <Juest> i dont think there was a community edition of vs6....
[2023-10-21 19:29:25] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| i dont think there was a community edition of vs6....
[2023-10-21 19:29:31] <Juest> maybe a trial
[2023-10-21 19:29:31] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| maybe a trial
[2023-10-21 19:30:22] <Z-Man> Or academic, or something. It legally came with a textbook. It was not technically legal to distribute builds made with it :)
[2023-10-21 19:30:23] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Or academic, or something. It legally came with a textbook. It was not technically legal to distribute builds made with it :)
[2023-10-21 19:30:56] <Z-Man> (with the second legal, I mean covered by the license agreement)
[2023-10-21 19:30:57] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| (with the second legal, I mean covered by the license agreement)
[2023-10-21 19:34:33] <Juest> ah i see
[2023-10-21 19:34:34] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| ah i see
[2023-10-21 19:34:41] <Juest> thats more like it
[2023-10-21 19:34:41] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| thats more like it
[2023-10-21 19:37:59] <Juest> what features were removed in the sty+ct+ap branches Z-Man ?
[2023-10-21 19:38:00] <Z-Man> I triggered a main site update. Thanks for the notice! I had just forgotten. And that even though I have a release checklist. Maybe I should actually print that and check things off.
[2023-10-21 19:38:00] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| what features were removed in the sty+ct+ap branches Z-Man ?
[2023-10-21 19:38:00] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| I triggered a main site update. Thanks for the notice! I had just forgotten. And that even though I have a release checklist. Maybe I should actually print that and check things off.
[2023-10-21 19:38:13] <Juest> armagetronad?
[2023-10-21 19:38:13] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| armagetronad?
[2023-10-21 19:38:24] <Juest> armagetronad.org?
[2023-10-21 19:38:25] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| armagetronad.org?
[2023-10-21 19:38:37] <Juest> yeah that would be a good idea
[2023-10-21 19:38:38] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| yeah that would be a good idea
[2023-10-21 19:39:00] <Juest> i think distros were a bit outdated because the website wasnt up to date
[2023-10-21 19:39:00] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| i think distros were a bit outdated because the website wasnt up to date
[2023-10-21 19:39:04] <Z-Man> Yeah, armagetronad.org. The update is on a cronjob, will take a bit.
[2023-10-21 19:39:04] <Z-Man> There were no features removed from sty. Just because we stole them does not mean they are no longer in there :)
[2023-10-21 19:39:04] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Yeah, armagetronad.org. The update is on a cronjob, will take a bit.
[2023-10-21 19:39:05] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| There were no features removed from sty. Just because we stole them does not mean they are no longer in there :)
[2023-10-21 19:39:27] <Juest> ah, wdym nicked then?
[2023-10-21 19:39:28] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| ah, wdym nicked then?
[2023-10-21 19:41:02] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Oh, I thought 'nick' means 'steal'. In this case, cherry pick, or copy.
[2023-10-21 19:41:03] <Z-Man> Oh, I thought 'nick' means 'steal'. In this case, cherry pick, or copy.
[2023-10-21 19:41:13] <Juest> ah i see
[2023-10-21 19:41:13] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| ah i see
[2023-10-21 19:41:32] <Juest> my apologies i thought nicked meant some things removed
[2023-10-21 19:41:32] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| my apologies i thought nicked meant some things removed
[2023-10-21 19:41:49] <Z-Man> In the real world, it does :)
[2023-10-21 19:41:50] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| In the real world, it does :)
[2023-10-21 19:42:47] <Juest> i see
[2023-10-21 19:42:47] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| i see
[2023-10-21 19:43:11] <armagetronbridge> 15irc:Z-Man| Anyway, it's way past bedtime on this side of the globe. Night, and see ya!
[2023-10-21 19:43:11] <Z-Man> Anyway, it's way past bedtime on this side of the globe. Night, and see ya!
[2023-10-21 19:43:28] <Juest> oh, short lived but nice to talk to you Z-Man ! good night and sweet dreams
[2023-10-21 19:43:28] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| oh, short lived but nice to talk to you Z-Man ! good night and sweet dreams
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Format changes at: 2015-08-25, 2017-02-20, and 2020-03-23. Times (2015 and later) should be Eastern.
• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
» Other icons: fontawesome
is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
Gridder
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