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[2023-10-17 02:01:15] <Lucifer_arma> he does it all with the mouse.  Keyboard is faster either way, but since it's two 8 digit numbers that are consecutive, I can actually remember the first 6 digits after typing the first one, so it's faster to not ^C and stuff
[2023-10-17 02:01:16] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| he does it all with the mouse.  Keyboard is faster either way, but since it's two 8 digit numbers that are consecutive, I can actually remember the first 6 digits after typing the first one, so it's faster to not ^C and stuff
[2023-10-17 02:04:31] <Lucifer_arma> playing the freeciv japan map feels a lot like squeezing a tube of toothpaste
[2023-10-17 02:04:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| playing the freeciv japan map feels a lot like squeezing a tube of toothpaste
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[2023-10-17 09:16:53] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:ZDHades| I was talking about the current* (arguable how current it is) education epidemic hitting schools in America with my sister and we came to a similar conclusion. It's wild how far behind kids are on their basic education (reading & maths). I'd like to have thought it was because they were learning more tech based skills by how much they're immersed in that environment from a young  <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 09:16:54] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:ZDHades| I was talking about the current* (arguable how current it is) education epidemic hitting schools in America with my sister and we came to a similar conclusion. It's wild how far behind kids are on their basic education (reading & maths). I'd like to have thought it was because they were learning more tech based skills by how much they're immersed in that environment from a young  <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 09:16:54] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:ZDHades| age, but even basic computer literacy is difficult to find. Turns out getting babysat by YouTube and tiktok only teaches them how to find the right icons, close out of ads and doom scroll. Nothing more. I think after the 1995-2005 kids enter the workforce, we aren't getting any (significant amount of) skilled laborers entering the market for a long time. Complacency kills. A quot <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 09:16:54] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:ZDHades| age, but even basic computer literacy is difficult to find. Turns out getting babysat by YouTube and tiktok only teaches them how to find the right icons, close out of ads and doom scroll. Nothing more. I think after the 1995-2005 kids enter the workforce, we aren't getting any (significant amount of) skilled laborers entering the market for a long time. Complacency kills. A quot <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 09:16:55] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:ZDHades| e by some guy - 'Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.'
[2023-10-17 09:16:55] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:ZDHades| e by some guy - 'Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.'
[2023-10-17 09:22:55] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:ZDHades| My niece, who has had a phone, tablet or a laptop in front of her since she learned to grasp objects (but of an exaggeration) and did 2 years of school from home on her laptop (COVID) still types with her 2 index fingers. I remember at exactly aroutd her age, I was first introduced to a PC and the first things we learned keyboarding skills. And this was back in India, where our c <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 09:22:55] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:ZDHades| lass of 30 got to go to the lab to share 2 computers for about an hour a week. I figured tech skills would be as important in the curriculum these days as math and reading, but maybe I'm biased a bit because of my interests idk
[2023-10-17 09:22:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:ZDHades| My niece, who has had a phone, tablet or a laptop in front of her since she learned to grasp objects (but of an exaggeration) and did 2 years of school from home on her laptop (COVID) still types with her 2 index fingers. I remember at exactly aroutd her age, I was first introduced to a PC and the first things we learned keyboarding skills. And this was back in India, where our c <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 09:22:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:ZDHades| lass of 30 got to go to the lab to share 2 computers for about an hour a week. I figured tech skills would be as important in the curriculum these days as math and reading, but maybe I'm biased a bit because of my interests idk
[2023-10-17 09:24:08] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:ZDHades| Keyboarding skills = typing/shortcuts (control c/v n shit)
[2023-10-17 09:24:09] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:ZDHades| Keyboarding skills = typing/shortcuts (control c/v n shit)
[2023-10-17 10:06:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Complacency is part of the educational problem too. We broadly assume that children are already familiar with all the operational characteristics of machines that we are, because the demonstrate a familiarity with devices - but we don't really measure that capability in depth, so the less obvious skills are never really proven.
[2023-10-17 10:06:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Complacency is part of the educational problem too. We broadly assume that children are already familiar with all the operational characteristics of machines that we are, because the demonstrate a familiarity with devices - but we don't really measure that capability in depth, so the less obvious skills are never really proven.
[2023-10-17 10:06:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| There's also something to be said about this ten minute thing, too. By overcatering to it, and by catering to short-form content in general (that being under three minutes or so), we don't permit young people to develop the concentration skills required to learn concepts in any depth. That's a rather broad statement, I'm aware, but I'd much rather see less of this tiktok nonsense <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 10:06:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent|  and more in-depth stuff. Unfortunately, that simply isn't where the money is, and without proper regulation, platforms will cater to the most financially productive product. Not the internet I hoped for, unfortunately.
[2023-10-17 10:06:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| There's also something to be said about this ten minute thing, too. By overcatering to it, and by catering to short-form content in general (that being under three minutes or so), we don't permit young people to develop the concentration skills required to learn concepts in any depth. That's a rather broad statement, I'm aware, but I'd much rather see less of this tiktok nonsense <clipped message>
[2023-10-17 10:06:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent|  and more in-depth stuff. Unfortunately, that simply isn't where the money is, and without proper regulation, platforms will cater to the most financially productive product. Not the internet I hoped for, unfortunately.
[2023-10-17 10:06:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| There's some good sides to it, though - the decentralisation of information and media is allowing a much greater range of individuals to produce arts and expression. Music is a superb example of that, as is the likes of producers like Corridor and Tomska. Silver linings and all that
[2023-10-17 10:06:44] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| There's some good sides to it, though - the decentralisation of information and media is allowing a much greater range of individuals to produce arts and expression. Music is a superb example of that, as is the likes of producers like Corridor and Tomska. Silver linings and all that
[2023-10-17 12:17:30] <Lucifer_arma> damn.  Next step is to pass an assessment on hackerrank
[2023-10-17 12:17:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| damn.  Next step is to pass an assessment on hackerrank
[2023-10-17 12:20:17] <Lucifer_arma> I think the standards of what we consider to be computer literate have dropped a lot, or they haven't kept pace with development, one of the two
[2023-10-17 12:20:18] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think the standards of what we consider to be computer literate have dropped a lot, or they haven't kept pace with development, one of the two
[2023-10-17 12:21:11] <Lucifer_arma> When I was a kid, computer literacy was a small amount of BASIC, and silly things like knowing the correct order to turn on your peripherals
[2023-10-17 12:21:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| When I was a kid, computer literacy was a small amount of BASIC, and silly things like knowing the correct order to turn on your peripherals
[2023-10-17 12:21:54] <Lucifer_arma> when GUIs started becoming prominent (and being a kid in a commodore family, we got a GUI before most PC users), computer literacy included understanding what icons were and what they were for
[2023-10-17 12:21:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| when GUIs started becoming prominent (and being a kid in a commodore family, we got a GUI before most PC users), computer literacy included understanding what icons were and what they were for
[2023-10-17 12:22:34] <Lucifer_arma> nowadays, an icon is just "click here and something happens".  Back then, you really had to know what a directory was.  Sounds silly now to think about it, but you don't use directories on your smartphone, you use apps, and they organize themselves on the filesystem
[2023-10-17 12:22:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| nowadays, an icon is just "click here and something happens".  Back then, you really had to know what a directory was.  Sounds silly now to think about it, but you don't use directories on your smartphone, you use apps, and they organize themselves on the filesystem
[2023-10-17 12:23:14] <Lucifer_arma> a few years back I had a minor altercation with my former step-daughter where I asked her to login to gmail using my laptop, and she logged in to google chrome, not knowing there was a difference (!)
[2023-10-17 12:23:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| a few years back I had a minor altercation with my former step-daughter where I asked her to login to gmail using my laptop, and she logged in to google chrome, not knowing there was a difference (!)
[2023-10-17 12:24:21] <Lucifer_arma> a disturbingly high number of kids don't know the difference between a local app and a web app.  I expect a lot of people in my generation to not know these things because my family were early adopters, most people in my generation didn't grow up with computers, but got involved with the tech boom of the 90's/early 00s
[2023-10-17 12:24:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| a disturbingly high number of kids don't know the difference between a local app and a web app.  I expect a lot of people in my generation to not know these things because my family were early adopters, most people in my generation didn't grow up with computers, but got involved with the tech boom of the 90's/early 00s
[2023-10-17 12:26:08] <Lucifer_arma> I'm not sure the short-attention span theater is that much of a problem, because kids binge-watch longer shows all the time.  I think the bigger problem there is that there's so much short-attention span entertainment that kids are spending their downtime doing things that just aren't interesting enough to promote growth
[2023-10-17 12:26:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm not sure the short-attention span theater is that much of a problem, because kids binge-watch longer shows all the time.  I think the bigger problem there is that there's so much short-attention span entertainment that kids are spending their downtime doing things that just aren't interesting enough to promote growth
[2023-10-17 12:26:52] <Lucifer_arma> when I was a kid, I spent a lot of that downtime taking things apart and figuring out how they go back together.  It's hard to find kids that are doing stuff like that now because passive entertainment is so easy to come by
[2023-10-17 12:26:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| when I was a kid, I spent a lot of that downtime taking things apart and figuring out how they go back together.  It's hard to find kids that are doing stuff like that now because passive entertainment is so easy to come by
[2023-10-17 12:27:49] <Lucifer_arma> I used to turn on the TV, see that there were only soap operas on, turn it off and go play in the yard.  Kids can turn on their phones/tablets/whatever and within minutes find some silly 5 minute clip to watch, or binge silly content and spend hours at it
[2023-10-17 12:27:49] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I used to turn on the TV, see that there were only soap operas on, turn it off and go play in the yard.  Kids can turn on their phones/tablets/whatever and within minutes find some silly 5 minute clip to watch, or binge silly content and spend hours at it
[2023-10-17 12:28:17] <Lucifer_arma> this is the world where America's Funniest Home Videos is something you can watch anytime, any place
[2023-10-17 12:28:18] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| this is the world where America's Funniest Home Videos is something you can watch anytime, any place
[2023-10-17 12:28:35] <Lucifer_arma> I still read when I take a shit, but I hear people watching videos in public restrooms
[2023-10-17 12:28:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I still read when I take a shit, but I hear people watching videos in public restrooms
[2023-10-17 12:30:03] <Lucifer_arma> teenagers still find more interesting things to do, and there's hope.  There are more entering the IT pipeline every day.  I'm just concerned there aren't enough, and there have been quite a few studies that show it.  We do have more interest in STEM overall than we did in my generation, but that curve is still pretty flat, and there's just not enough replacements in the pipeline
[2023-10-17 12:30:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| teenagers still find more interesting things to do, and there's hope.  There are more entering the IT pipeline every day.  I'm just concerned there aren't enough, and there have been quite a few studies that show it.  We do have more interest in STEM overall than we did in my generation, but that curve is still pretty flat, and there's just not enough replacements in the pipeline
[2023-10-17 12:30:52] <Lucifer_arma> I guess it's ok though, because soon it'll be illegal to retire in the US anyway *wry grin*
[2023-10-17 12:30:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I guess it's ok though, because soon it'll be illegal to retire in the US anyway *wry grin*
[2023-10-17 12:32:56] <Lucifer_arma> in a related note, I saw a fun meme that said that gen x is the only generation to have full reproductive rights in the US for their entire reproductive years
[2023-10-17 12:32:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| in a related note, I saw a fun meme that said that gen x is the only generation to have full reproductive rights in the US for their entire reproductive years
[2023-10-17 12:46:52] <Lucifer_arma> ok, given that the devops question is going to be all about puppet, and I don't know anything about puppet, I should probably spend some time with it.  There's an hour allocated for the assessment, and there are 30 multiple choice questions and one devops question
[2023-10-17 12:46:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, given that the devops question is going to be all about puppet, and I don't know anything about puppet, I should probably spend some time with it.  There's an hour allocated for the assessment, and there are 30 multiple choice questions and one devops question
[2023-10-17 12:47:37] <Lucifer_arma> I want the job enough that I shouldn't take it cold, but I normally do best when I take tests cold.  Given how quickly I can generally find information, is it a reasonable risk to take it cold, knowing I don't know anything about puppet?
[2023-10-17 12:47:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I want the job enough that I shouldn't take it cold, but I normally do best when I take tests cold.  Given how quickly I can generally find information, is it a reasonable risk to take it cold, knowing I don't know anything about puppet?
[2023-10-17 12:47:47] <Lucifer_arma> (I did just work through a hello, world exercise for puppet)
[2023-10-17 12:47:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| (I did just work through a hello, world exercise for puppet)
[2023-10-17 13:18:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Having just looked at how puppet varies ever so slightly from normal operators, but retains enough syntax to fool, I would say no. Spend a few hours playing with it first. 
[2023-10-17 13:18:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Having just looked at how puppet varies ever so slightly from normal operators, but retains enough syntax to fool, I would say no. Spend a few hours playing with it first. 
[2023-10-17 13:18:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Also I know fuck all about puppet
[2023-10-17 13:18:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Also I know fuck all about puppet
[2023-10-17 13:23:05] <Lucifer_arma> well, the main concern is spending time with puppet only to find the devops question is about tomcat or jboss instead, heh
[2023-10-17 13:23:05] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, the main concern is spending time with puppet only to find the devops question is about tomcat or jboss instead, heh
[2023-10-17 13:23:23] <Lucifer_arma> but the sample test had a puppet question (answer was easily googled)
[2023-10-17 13:23:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but the sample test had a puppet question (answer was easily googled)
[2023-10-17 13:23:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| wait
[2023-10-17 13:23:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| wait
[2023-10-17 13:23:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| tomcat?
[2023-10-17 13:23:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| tomcat?
[2023-10-17 13:23:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| I had no idea tomcat still existed
[2023-10-17 13:23:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| I had no idea tomcat still existed
[2023-10-17 13:23:58] <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to look into using puppet to setup landru (the cluster running the stockanalyst)
[2023-10-17 13:23:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think I'm going to look into using puppet to setup landru (the cluster running the stockanalyst)
[2023-10-17 13:24:21] <Lucifer_arma> why wouldn't it?  Big hairy web apps are still primarily written in java, and tomcat serves those apps
[2023-10-17 13:24:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| why wouldn't it?  Big hairy web apps are still primarily written in java, and tomcat serves those apps
[2023-10-17 13:24:45] <Lucifer_arma> I was less surprised to hear it was still used and more surprised when I realized it'd been so long since I fooled with it that I didn't even remember what it is
[2023-10-17 13:24:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was less surprised to hear it was still used and more surprised when I realized it'd been so long since I fooled with it that I didn't even remember what it is
[2023-10-17 13:25:00] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| I always assumed it was replaced with apache proper
[2023-10-17 13:25:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| I always assumed it was replaced with apache proper
[2023-10-17 13:25:09] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| do you definitely know it'll be puppet specific vs more general devops questions?
[2023-10-17 13:25:09] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| do you definitely know it'll be puppet specific vs more general devops questions?
[2023-10-17 13:25:33] <Lucifer_arma> but puppet was one of those weird things where it looked so familiar, I swore it was either something I'd started that someone took over, or I at least knew one of the early developers
[2023-10-17 13:25:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but puppet was one of those weird things where it looked so familiar, I swore it was either something I'd started that someone took over, or I at least knew one of the early developers
[2023-10-17 13:25:45] <Lucifer_arma> @Deso: no, I don't know that it'll definitely be puppet specific
[2023-10-17 13:25:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @Deso: no, I don't know that it'll definitely be puppet specific
[2023-10-17 13:26:00] <Lucifer_arma> any more general question I can either answer directly, or quickly google an answer
[2023-10-17 13:26:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| any more general question I can either answer directly, or quickly google an answer
[2023-10-17 13:27:29] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| feels like maybe your time is better spent elsewhere than on 1 question out of 31 that might not be about the specific tool they use
[2023-10-17 13:27:30] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| feels like maybe your time is better spent elsewhere than on 1 question out of 31 that might not be about the specific tool they use
[2023-10-17 13:27:44] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| like getting rich quick on stock trading 😄
[2023-10-17 13:27:45] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| like getting rich quick on stock trading 😄
[2023-10-17 13:27:55] <Lucifer_arma> you're not wrong.  But I don't have any indication where else to spend that time
[2023-10-17 13:27:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you're not wrong.  But I don't have any indication where else to spend that time
[2023-10-17 13:27:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Oh, I was assuming the lot were on puppet
[2023-10-17 13:27:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Oh, I was assuming the lot were on puppet
[2023-10-17 13:28:22] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| can you take the assessment whenever you want?
[2023-10-17 13:28:22] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| can you take the assessment whenever you want?
[2023-10-17 13:28:49] <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'm not going to shelve that plan at all, I just want to make more money in the meantime.  More recent projections based on actual test results, now that I have them, suggest it'll take a year or so just to get to where I don't need a roommate anymore
[2023-10-17 13:28:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| heh, I'm not going to shelve that plan at all, I just want to make more money in the meantime.  More recent projections based on actual test results, now that I have them, suggest it'll take a year or so just to get to where I don't need a roommate anymore
[2023-10-17 13:29:05] <Lucifer_arma> I have 48 hours to take it, but I have to work tomorrow
[2023-10-17 13:29:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I have 48 hours to take it, but I have to work tomorrow
[2023-10-17 13:29:18] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| you tracked some test trades?
[2023-10-17 13:29:18] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| you tracked some test trades?
[2023-10-17 13:30:00] <Lucifer_arma> yep, and have been tightening up the simulation.  Right now I've got it collecting higher resolution trading records so I can make the simulation even more realistic
[2023-10-17 13:30:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yep, and have been tightening up the simulation.  Right now I've got it collecting higher resolution trading records so I can make the simulation even more realistic
[2023-10-17 13:30:51] <Lucifer_arma> I'm still at the "make the simulation work" stage, but preliminary results are suggesting that I'm still in development for a couple more months before I can go live with a realistic expectation of profit
[2023-10-17 13:30:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm still at the "make the simulation work" stage, but preliminary results are suggesting that I'm still in development for a couple more months before I can go live with a realistic expectation of profit
[2023-10-17 13:50:39] <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops.  In my rewritten function to see if the stock market is open, I accidentally returned false in every if test
[2023-10-17 13:50:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| heh, oops.  In my rewritten function to see if the stock market is open, I accidentally returned false in every if test
[2023-10-17 13:51:06] <Lucifer_arma> I fixed it, but it's neat to me that this function replaces some logic that Z-man gave me like four years ago to test to see if the stock market was open
[2023-10-17 13:51:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I fixed it, but it's neat to me that this function replaces some logic that Z-man gave me like four years ago to test to see if the stock market was open
[2023-10-17 13:51:53] <Lucifer_arma> I finally got a data source that gave me open hours and holidays from 1970 to 2029, so now instead of that cool OR mess that Z-man gave me, I have a simple function "is_stockmarket_open"
[2023-10-17 13:51:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I finally got a data source that gave me open hours and holidays from 1970 to 2029, so now instead of that cool OR mess that Z-man gave me, I have a simple function "is_stockmarket_open"
[2023-10-17 13:52:31] <Lucifer_arma> do SSD's make noise?  Or am I hallucinating hard drive noises?
[2023-10-17 13:52:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| do SSD's make noise?  Or am I hallucinating hard drive noises?
[2023-10-17 13:58:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| They can, but its an indication of a QC failure. Drive might be fine, also might not be
[2023-10-17 13:58:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| They can, but its an indication of a QC failure. Drive might be fine, also might not be
[2023-10-17 13:59:12] <Lucifer_arma> good thing I moved the database already.  I better backup my Projects directory, just in case
[2023-10-17 13:59:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| good thing I moved the database already.  I better backup my Projects directory, just in case
[2023-10-17 14:01:05] <Lucifer_arma> and writing, and documents
[2023-10-17 14:01:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| and writing, and documents
[2023-10-17 14:01:14] <Lucifer_arma> damn.  I should install a backup program instead
[2023-10-17 14:01:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| damn.  I should install a backup program instead
[2023-10-17 14:01:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| rule of three
[2023-10-17 14:01:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| rule of three
[2023-10-17 14:15:22] <Lucifer_arma> running rsync on my home directory.  I just put a terabyte drive in my new database server, and it's a quality drive (not a risky noname drive)
[2023-10-17 14:15:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| running rsync on my home directory.  I just put a terabyte drive in my new database server, and it's a quality drive (not a risky noname drive)
[2023-10-17 14:16:43] <Lucifer_arma> now I just need to make sure to push the stockanalyst source, and maybe put in a cronjob to run rsync daily for everything else.  I'd rather not have to worry about backups right now, but man, it would really suck to lose everything I've got
[2023-10-17 14:16:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| now I just need to make sure to push the stockanalyst source, and maybe put in a cronjob to run rsync daily for everything else.  I'd rather not have to worry about backups right now, but man, it would really suck to lose everything I've got
[2023-10-17 14:17:52] <Lucifer_arma> I still suspect I"m hallucinating, but it's much better to be safe with this stuff
[2023-10-17 14:17:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I still suspect I"m hallucinating, but it's much better to be safe with this stuff
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[2023-10-17 16:19:33] <Lucifer_arma> ok, got hourly backups, got an upstream branch to put the stockanalyst in.  My ssd can now fail anytime it feels like it
[2023-10-17 16:19:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, got hourly backups, got an upstream branch to put the stockanalyst in.  My ssd can now fail anytime it feels like it
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[2023-10-17 23:17:18] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, there's no way I passed that test.  There was just too much on there that I didn't know, and the questions were pretty solidly testing to make sure you knew what you were doing
[2023-10-17 23:17:18] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yeah, there's no way I passed that test.  There was just too much on there that I didn't know, and the questions were pretty solidly testing to make sure you knew what you were doing
[2023-10-17 23:17:35] <Lucifer_arma> also, if you left the window, it got logged, so googling answers didn't seem to be a good idea to me
[2023-10-17 23:17:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, if you left the window, it got logged, so googling answers didn't seem to be a good idea to me
[2023-10-17 23:29:12] <Lucifer_arma> ok, after further reflection, I don't think that message was telling me that I *couldn't* move away from the window, just that it would be logged and reported when I did.  Since a significant part of the job is being able to find answers when you don't know them, and doing so quickly, that seems to be the point of the test.  Which I failed completely because I was spooked
[2023-10-17 23:29:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, after further reflection, I don't think that message was telling me that I *couldn't* move away from the window, just that it would be logged and reported when I did.  Since a significant part of the job is being able to find answers when you don't know them, and doing so quickly, that seems to be the point of the test.  Which I failed completely because I was spooked
[2023-10-17 23:29:43] <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I emailed the lady telling her that and asking if there's a way to retake it.  I'm expecting a no, but what the hell.  It's worth asking, right?
[2023-10-17 23:29:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| anyway, I emailed the lady telling her that and asking if there's a way to retake it.  I'm expecting a no, but what the hell.  It's worth asking, right?
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