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[2023-09-11 00:42:06] <Lucifer_arma> Picard just said "Klingon Imperial Empire".  How did that get through all the editing, the directing and acting, the editing?  How did that get through?  Clearly, at that point in time, the ST:TNG writers were consulting with the Redundancy Department of Redundancies.
[2023-09-11 00:42:07] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Picard just said "Klingon Imperial Empire".  How did that get through all the editing, the directing and acting, the editing?  How did that get through?  Clearly, at that point in time, the ST:TNG writers were consulting with the Redundancy Department of Redundancies.
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[2023-09-11 05:29:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| An empire isn't necessarily imperial. Imperialism implies that an empire controls nation states within itself by means of exerting control over the governments of those nation states. An empire could equally exist by being managed by a singular government with representatives, whereby the members of the empire would not be considered nation states unto themselves. That's the whol <clipped message>
[2023-09-11 05:29:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| An empire isn't necessarily imperial. Imperialism implies that an empire controls nation states within itself by means of exerting control over the governments of those nation states. An empire could equally exist by being managed by a singular government with representatives, whereby the members of the empire would not be considered nation states unto themselves. That's the whol <clipped message>
[2023-09-11 05:29:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| e point of the Romulans vs Cardassians vs Klingons trope - the Romulans adopt empire by means of whole annexation, the Klingons by imperialism, and the Cardassians by subjugation and fascism. The only real portrayal of it is in DS9 with the implied history of the Cardassian subjugation of Bajor.
[2023-09-11 05:29:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| e point of the Romulans vs Cardassians vs Klingons trope - the Romulans adopt empire by means of whole annexation, the Klingons by imperialism, and the Cardassians by subjugation and fascism. The only real portrayal of it is in DS9 with the implied history of the Cardassian subjugation of Bajor.
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