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[2026-08-03 00:00:24] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| I don't know how reliable the following video is but it makes the case that currently AI is super cheap and that will change fast once everyone is dependent on it.
[2026-08-03 00:00:24] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| I don't know how reliable the following video is but it makes the case that currently AI is super cheap and that will change fast once everyone is dependent on it.
[2026-08-03 00:00:25] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| https://youtu.be/UfApUobqN8Y?si=RC1_uJ6NYCSDYnXj
[2026-08-03 00:00:25] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| https://youtu.be/UfApUobqN8Y?si=RC1_uJ6NYCSDYnXj
[2026-08-03 00:06:02] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| I find some of these videos really funny: https://m.youtube.com/@Fireship
[2026-08-03 00:06:02] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| I find some of these videos really funny: https://m.youtube.com/@Fireship
[2026-08-03 00:45:30] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| I also read today that one has to be careful about sharing Claude chats
[2026-08-03 00:45:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| I also read today that one has to be careful about sharing Claude chats
[2026-08-03 00:46:01] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| https://www.heise.de/en/news/Claude-data-leak-thousands-of-chats-end-up-in-search-engines-11380067.html
[2026-08-03 00:46:01] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| https://www.heise.de/en/news/Claude-data-leak-thousands-of-chats-end-up-in-search-engines-11380067.html
[2026-08-03 01:11:20] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| so far only thing ive found kindve related and dont know what its for is 0alias
[2026-08-03 01:11:20] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| so far only thing ive found kindve related and dont know what its for is 0alias
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[2026-08-03 03:36:41] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:Noodles| ye i remember when i was hosting and i was getting root login attempts every couple of seconds. Because i didnt know wtf i was doing, it ended up filling my vps up with text documents all at max character  limit, all  failed  login attempts. I think when you had a look at it deli, the IP's  were from all over the place
[2026-08-03 03:36:41] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:Noodles| ye i remember when i was hosting and i was getting root login attempts every couple of seconds. Because i didnt know wtf i was doing, it ended up filling my vps up with text documents all at max character  limit, all  failed  login attempts. I think when you had a look at it deli, the IP's  were from all over the place
[2026-08-03 04:19:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| how 2 build smtp reputation
[2026-08-03 04:19:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| how 2 build smtp reputation
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[2026-08-03 06:35:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| do you have spf, dmarc, dkim
[2026-08-03 06:35:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| do you have spf, dmarc, dkim
[2026-08-03 06:50:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| hmf. your dmarc is missing ruf and fo
[2026-08-03 06:50:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| hmf. your dmarc is missing ruf and fo
[2026-08-03 06:51:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ruf is forensics, needs forensics enabled. Set ruf to the postmaster address, and `fo=1`
[2026-08-03 06:51:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ruf is forensics, needs forensics enabled. Set ruf to the postmaster address, and `fo=1`
[2026-08-03 06:52:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| spf is improperly formatted. v=spf1 **mx a** include...
[2026-08-03 06:52:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| spf is improperly formatted. v=spf1 **mx a** include...
[2026-08-03 06:58:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| can't check dkim without knowing your selector tho
[2026-08-03 06:58:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| can't check dkim without knowing your selector tho
[2026-08-03 07:16:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| @northernscrub these checks were performed on `syn.gl` right?
[2026-08-03 07:16:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| @northernscrub these checks were performed on `syn.gl` right?
[2026-08-03 07:16:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not rcl?
[2026-08-03 07:16:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not rcl?
[2026-08-03 07:16:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya
[2026-08-03 07:16:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya
[2026-08-03 07:16:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nice
[2026-08-03 07:16:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nice
[2026-08-03 07:16:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ty
[2026-08-03 07:16:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ty
[2026-08-03 07:16:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also you can send me an email from that address I pm'd you the other day, I'll have a deeks
[2026-08-03 07:16:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also you can send me an email from that address I pm'd you the other day, I'll have a deeks
[2026-08-03 07:17:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| incoming
[2026-08-03 07:17:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| incoming
[2026-08-03 07:17:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| sent
[2026-08-03 07:17:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| sent
[2026-08-03 07:35:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:downloadpizza| Also once you verified your dmarc+spf works change to q=reject
[2026-08-03 07:35:25] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:downloadpizza| Also once you verified your dmarc+spf works change to q=reject
[2026-08-03 07:36:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, don't do that. Always quarantine, just in case something turns up that you actually want.
[2026-08-03 07:36:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, don't do that. Always quarantine, just in case something turns up that you actually want.
[2026-08-03 07:38:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc your current problem is message ID generation. Whatever solution you're using, it generates some seemingly computed hash value. It should generate an fqdn
[2026-08-03 07:38:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc your current problem is message ID generation. Whatever solution you're using, it generates some seemingly computed hash value. It should generate an fqdn
[2026-08-03 07:39:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| (I think)
[2026-08-03 07:39:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| (I think)
[2026-08-03 07:42:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:downloadpizza| do you leave all your domains on quarantine?
[2026-08-03 07:42:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:downloadpizza| do you leave all your domains on quarantine?
[2026-08-03 07:42:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:downloadpizza| i mean sure it doesnt give better reputation but its good practice to reject once you have a working setup
[2026-08-03 07:42:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:downloadpizza| i mean sure it doesnt give better reputation but its good practice to reject once you have a working setup
[2026-08-03 07:42:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes. Reject is overstrict. Handle things client-side with proper analysis, not with a sledgehammer.
[2026-08-03 07:42:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes. Reject is overstrict. Handle things client-side with proper analysis, not with a sledgehammer.
[2026-08-03 07:45:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the vast majority of hosted email solutions are improperly configured, which is why they keep falling into spam bins. That's why a reject policy only furthers the push into the arms of one of a handful of monopolies. A horrible number of businesses that could be doing their own email are paying through the nose for o365 and as a result losing data sovereignty
[2026-08-03 07:45:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the vast majority of hosted email solutions are improperly configured, which is why they keep falling into spam bins. That's why a reject policy only furthers the push into the arms of one of a handful of monopolies. A horrible number of businesses that could be doing their own email are paying through the nose for o365 and as a result losing data sovereignty
[2026-08-03 07:45:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| (as well as missing out on what could be substantial profits)
[2026-08-03 07:45:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| (as well as missing out on what could be substantial profits)
[2026-08-03 07:46:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We could have just... gotten people to configure their mail daemons properly instead
[2026-08-03 07:46:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We could have just... gotten people to configure their mail daemons properly instead
[2026-08-03 07:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ahah. @syn_acc kamatera is the problem. The entire 185.127.17.* range is blacklisted by suomi for phishing, and it was last year so good fucking luck getting that sorted even if you *did* own the ip. 
[2026-08-03 07:53:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ahah. @syn_acc kamatera is the problem. The entire 185.127.17.* range is blacklisted by suomi for phishing, and it was last year so good fucking luck getting that sorted even if you *did* own the ip. 
[2026-08-03 07:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's the problem I was telling you about with cloud providers, it's next to impossible to find one that *hasn't* been listed somewhere, and all the big providers follow them religiously. The only way around that is to get a static IP, which makes you the custodian on behalf of the leaseholder. Then you can set about clearing it up. 
[2026-08-03 07:53:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's the problem I was telling you about with cloud providers, it's next to impossible to find one that *hasn't* been listed somewhere, and all the big providers follow them religiously. The only way around that is to get a static IP, which makes you the custodian on behalf of the leaseholder. Then you can set about clearing it up. 
[2026-08-03 07:53:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Get yourself something like [this](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267692359616) and hoy a mail package on it. Joab done
[2026-08-03 07:53:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Get yourself something like [this](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267692359616) and hoy a mail package on it. Joab done
[2026-08-03 08:21:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| gr
[2026-08-03 08:21:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| gr
[2026-08-03 08:21:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| maybe i can get an ip outside this range
[2026-08-03 08:21:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| maybe i can get an ip outside this range
[2026-08-03 08:22:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| chances are you'll just get another range blacklisted somewhere. When VPS solutions got so cheap, spammers cycled through practically every commercially assigned block within about six months
[2026-08-03 08:22:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| chances are you'll just get another range blacklisted somewhere. When VPS solutions got so cheap, spammers cycled through practically every commercially assigned block within about six months
[2026-08-03 08:22:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it happened super fast
[2026-08-03 08:22:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it happened super fast
[2026-08-03 08:23:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The only effective solution is to have custodianship or a leashold for the IP you're using
[2026-08-03 08:23:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The only effective solution is to have custodianship or a leashold for the IP you're using
[2026-08-03 08:25:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| there should be some consumer service for getting leases on clean IPs
[2026-08-03 08:25:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| there should be some consumer service for getting leases on clean IPs
[2026-08-03 08:25:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| or ranges
[2026-08-03 08:25:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| or ranges
[2026-08-03 08:25:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i guess there’s none left though
[2026-08-03 08:25:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i guess there’s none left though
[2026-08-03 08:26:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| nah, spam houses are eminently hostile for this precise reason. You can't bulk report fixes, none of them accept mor ethan one or two addresses at once. And if those addresses aren't actually assigned to a machin or a hostname, the spam house will likely just ignore it
[2026-08-03 08:26:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| nah, spam houses are eminently hostile for this precise reason. You can't bulk report fixes, none of them accept mor ethan one or two addresses at once. And if those addresses aren't actually assigned to a machin or a hostname, the spam house will likely just ignore it
[2026-08-03 08:27:48] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| wdym by profits?
[2026-08-03 08:27:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| wdym by profits?
[2026-08-03 08:28:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if you're paying for o365, you're paying a vastly inflated cost to begin with, and one that rises very steadily. If you do your own email, you pay nothing more than the cost of running the physical machines your service is colo'd on. Sendmail, postfix, etc etc are all FOSS
[2026-08-03 08:28:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if you're paying for o365, you're paying a vastly inflated cost to begin with, and one that rises very steadily. If you do your own email, you pay nothing more than the cost of running the physical machines your service is colo'd on. Sendmail, postfix, etc etc are all FOSS
[2026-08-03 08:29:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| oh you just mean you save the added expenses
[2026-08-03 08:29:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| oh you just mean you save the added expenses
[2026-08-03 08:29:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well ya, but they're so inflated
[2026-08-03 08:29:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well ya, but they're so inflated
[2026-08-03 08:30:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah but there would be no consolidation of internet applications if everyone could self host xd
[2026-08-03 08:30:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah but there would be no consolidation of internet applications if everyone could self host xd
[2026-08-03 08:31:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is a good thing
[2026-08-03 08:31:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is a good thing
[2026-08-03 08:31:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| wdym
[2026-08-03 08:31:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| wdym
[2026-08-03 08:31:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| or rather what makes it good
[2026-08-03 08:31:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| or rather what makes it good
[2026-08-03 08:31:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| consolidation is a direct path to monopolisation
[2026-08-03 08:31:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| consolidation is a direct path to monopolisation
[2026-08-03 08:32:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's exactly what's happened with exchange, gmail, etc etc
[2026-08-03 08:32:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's exactly what's happened with exchange, gmail, etc etc
[2026-08-03 08:32:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| who is this good for?
[2026-08-03 08:32:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| who is this good for?
[2026-08-03 08:33:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| also there are also so many funny things going on with ipv4 allocation, like schemes to get ranges from AFRINIC and APNIC to use elsewhere
[2026-08-03 08:33:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| also there are also so many funny things going on with ipv4 allocation, like schemes to get ranges from AFRINIC and APNIC to use elsewhere
[2026-08-03 08:34:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| monopolisation is bad for everyone except the monopoly. Think Windows - the majority of computer users are locked into windows, and thus locked into an ever shitter experience because MS now sees it's userbase as a cash cow rather than a customer to woo. That happened because MS paid OEM suppliers to preinstall windows on customer computers, which meant participating OEMs could s <clipped message>
[2026-08-03 08:34:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| monopolisation is bad for everyone except the monopoly. Think Windows - the majority of computer users are locked into windows, and thus locked into an ever shitter experience because MS now sees it's userbase as a cash cow rather than a customer to woo. That happened because MS paid OEM suppliers to preinstall windows on customer computers, which meant participating OEMs could s <clipped message>
[2026-08-03 08:34:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ell machines for far cheaper.
[2026-08-03 08:34:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ell machines for far cheaper.
[2026-08-03 08:36:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| thirty years later, and we're locked into o365 (which should really be called o310), web-based services that constantly change and cost money to work around, cloud based active directory that there is no way to return to local solutions from and increases in cost *constantly*, and so on and so forth
[2026-08-03 08:36:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| thirty years later, and we're locked into o365 (which should really be called o310), web-based services that constantly change and cost money to work around, cloud based active directory that there is no way to return to local solutions from and increases in cost *constantly*, and so on and so forth
[2026-08-03 08:37:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's just *one* monopoly. There are so many it hurts
[2026-08-03 08:37:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's just *one* monopoly. There are so many it hurts
[2026-08-03 08:37:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| given this what's the meaning of this message lol
[2026-08-03 08:37:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| given this what's the meaning of this message lol
[2026-08-03 08:38:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's right there. When one provider consolidates everything into a single locked-in package, we lose the ability to choose an alternative. That's monopolisation
[2026-08-03 08:38:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's right there. When one provider consolidates everything into a single locked-in package, we lose the ability to choose an alternative. That's monopolisation
[2026-08-03 08:39:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but do you just mean that it's good for whoever monopolizes the industry
[2026-08-03 08:39:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but do you just mean that it's good for whoever monopolizes the industry
[2026-08-03 08:39:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, I mean that the "no consolidation" outcome is good for everybody
[2026-08-03 08:39:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, I mean that the "no consolidation" outcome is good for everybody
[2026-08-03 08:40:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but we can't have that because shit-tier us regulations are ineffective and vulnerable to influence from the same monopolies that allow them to exist
[2026-08-03 08:40:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but we can't have that because shit-tier us regulations are ineffective and vulnerable to influence from the same monopolies that allow them to exist
[2026-08-03 08:40:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| also there are fundamental architectural reasons that local solutions arent successful, such as NAT (a result of IP limitations), and scalability problems that make CDNs necessary
[2026-08-03 08:40:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| also there are fundamental architectural reasons that local solutions arent successful, such as NAT (a result of IP limitations), and scalability problems that make CDNs necessary
[2026-08-03 08:40:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| from host-centric architecture
[2026-08-03 08:40:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| from host-centric architecture
[2026-08-03 08:40:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| xIPV4 would fix that. Each ring dedicated to a solution, each country gets an entire v4 region to play in
[2026-08-03 08:40:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| xIPV4 would fix that. Each ring dedicated to a solution, each country gets an entire v4 region to play in
[2026-08-03 08:41:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but noooo we went with ipv6 instead
[2026-08-03 08:41:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but noooo we went with ipv6 instead
[2026-08-03 08:41:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ipv6 is stoopid
[2026-08-03 08:41:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ipv6 is stoopid
[2026-08-03 08:41:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| changing addressing can mitigate some of it but i dont think it solves the problems entirely
[2026-08-03 08:41:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| changing addressing can mitigate some of it but i dont think it solves the problems entirely
[2026-08-03 08:42:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| a CDN is fine - akamai did that in a non-monopolistic way for years
[2026-08-03 08:42:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| a CDN is fine - akamai did that in a non-monopolistic way for years
[2026-08-03 08:42:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| like in the 90s web servers were crashing because they had thousands of requests, so you need CDNs and some caching
[2026-08-03 08:42:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| like in the 90s web servers were crashing because they had thousands of requests, so you need CDNs and some caching
[2026-08-03 08:42:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah you can make it work but you have to use servers that someone needs to host
[2026-08-03 08:42:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah you can make it work but you have to use servers that someone needs to host
[2026-08-03 08:42:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| in the 90's we didn't have the hardware capacity to deal with lots of concurrent requests. You ever tried to multitask on a pentium 3?
[2026-08-03 08:42:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| in the 90's we didn't have the hardware capacity to deal with lots of concurrent requests. You ever tried to multitask on a pentium 3?
[2026-08-03 08:43:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah that is true
[2026-08-03 08:43:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah that is true
[2026-08-03 08:43:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| hosting is piss easy. You just need to design your infra properly. You don't need anything special unless you're a major global presence, at which point you can afford to multisite almost endlessly anyway
[2026-08-03 08:43:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| hosting is piss easy. You just need to design your infra properly. You don't need anything special unless you're a major global presence, at which point you can afford to multisite almost endlessly anyway
[2026-08-03 08:44:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but someone has to host at some expense of time or money to them
[2026-08-03 08:44:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but someone has to host at some expense of time or money to them
[2026-08-03 08:45:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| put it this way: My USFF machine here which runs a 2012-era i5 can handle a couple thousand requests a minute. That's a heck of a lot. I host the RC domain on it at the moment whilst I'm doing stuff in the DC.
[2026-08-03 08:45:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| put it this way: My USFF machine here which runs a 2012-era i5 can handle a couple thousand requests a minute. That's a heck of a lot. I host the RC domain on it at the moment whilst I'm doing stuff in the DC.
[2026-08-03 08:45:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| granted the rc domain doesn't get a *lot* of traffic...
[2026-08-03 08:45:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| granted the rc domain doesn't get a *lot* of traffic...
[2026-08-03 08:45:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| now scale that up.
[2026-08-03 08:45:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| now scale that up.
[2026-08-03 08:46:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yes it's true that host's hardware limitations are not really part of the problem anymore
[2026-08-03 08:46:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yes it's true that host's hardware limitations are not really part of the problem anymore
[2026-08-03 08:46:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| put two 32-core threadrippers and 512gb of memory in a blade. Add some decently speedy storage. Put that in front of your infra and use it to direct requests to the appropriate stack
[2026-08-03 08:46:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| put two 32-core threadrippers and 512gb of memory in a blade. Add some decently speedy storage. Put that in front of your infra and use it to direct requests to the appropriate stack
[2026-08-03 08:46:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you can now handle several hundred thousand requests a minute, if not mroe
[2026-08-03 08:46:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| you can now handle several hundred thousand requests a minute, if not mroe
[2026-08-03 08:46:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| plus we now have 10g fibre available at a decent price
[2026-08-03 08:46:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| plus we now have 10g fibre available at a decent price
[2026-08-03 08:47:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| your bottleneck, if anything at all, is the speed of your local storage
[2026-08-03 08:47:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| your bottleneck, if anything at all, is the speed of your local storage
[2026-08-03 08:47:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or rahter, the bandwidth
[2026-08-03 08:47:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| or rahter, the bandwidth
[2026-08-03 08:47:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| "speed" is incorrect here
[2026-08-03 08:47:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| "speed" is incorrect here
[2026-08-03 08:48:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but even then, four nvme drives in tandem will vastly outpace your network bandwidth
[2026-08-03 08:48:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but even then, four nvme drives in tandem will vastly outpace your network bandwidth
[2026-08-03 08:48:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well most internet traffic is requesting the same stuff
[2026-08-03 08:48:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well most internet traffic is requesting the same stuff
[2026-08-03 08:49:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, combine all of that with xIPv4, where a single country can now obtain an *entire* ipv4 space, and we no longer have scarcity problems
[2026-08-03 08:49:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, combine all of that with xIPv4, where a single country can now obtain an *entire* ipv4 space, and we no longer have scarcity problems
[2026-08-03 08:49:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| on the rcl website you would need like thousands of people uploading and watching mazing videos to make this a problem xd
[2026-08-03 08:49:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| on the rcl website you would need like thousands of people uploading and watching mazing videos to make this a problem xd
[2026-08-03 08:49:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| aye, tiktok and all that brain rot. So they multisite like it's 2001 and put a little rate limiting in place, and it's sorted
[2026-08-03 08:49:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| aye, tiktok and all that brain rot. So they multisite like it's 2001 and put a little rate limiting in place, and it's sorted
[2026-08-03 08:50:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also dynamic compression, storage optimisation, so on and so forth
[2026-08-03 08:50:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also dynamic compression, storage optimisation, so on and so forth
[2026-08-03 08:50:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but you should, otherwise the network is carrying the same requests redundantly in huge amounts
[2026-08-03 08:50:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but you should, otherwise the network is carrying the same requests redundantly in huge amounts
[2026-08-03 08:50:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| dynamic caching oyu mean? sure
[2026-08-03 08:50:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| dynamic caching oyu mean? sure
[2026-08-03 08:51:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| although in fairness a lot of shit is cached by the client anyway
[2026-08-03 08:51:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| although in fairness a lot of shit is cached by the client anyway
[2026-08-03 08:51:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| like google can literally go to any ISP and just tell them "i put caching box here, i wont pay for it"
[2026-08-03 08:51:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| like google can literally go to any ISP and just tell them "i put caching box here, i wont pay for it"
[2026-08-03 08:51:39] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| havent heard of xIPv4 and wikipedia doesnt have a page on it - is the idea essentially what you said that every country gets a full /0 space?
[2026-08-03 08:51:39] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| havent heard of xIPv4 and wikipedia doesnt have a page on it - is the idea essentially what you said that every country gets a full /0 space?
[2026-08-03 08:51:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, not quite, but they can certainly negotiate space at most major exchanges
[2026-08-03 08:51:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, not quite, but they can certainly negotiate space at most major exchanges
[2026-08-03 08:52:00] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| and then i guess like with phone numbers a country prefix ish thing?
[2026-08-03 08:52:01] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| and then i guess like with phone numbers a country prefix ish thing?
[2026-08-03 08:52:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya. xIPv4 was shouted down because some eedjit was more impressed byt eh mathematical capability of ipv6
[2026-08-03 08:52:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya. xIPv4 was shouted down because some eedjit was more impressed byt eh mathematical capability of ipv6
[2026-08-03 08:52:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i think this happened more in the past, because their negotiation power was that you could  traffic by like 90%
[2026-08-03 08:52:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i think this happened more in the past, because their negotiation power was that you could  traffic by like 90%
[2026-08-03 08:52:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| what do you do ryn?
[2026-08-03 08:52:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| what do you do ryn?
[2026-08-03 08:53:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you seem to be knowledgeable in networking
[2026-08-03 08:53:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you seem to be knowledgeable in networking
[2026-08-03 08:53:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yes i have read a lot about networking
[2026-08-03 08:53:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yes i have read a lot about networking
[2026-08-03 08:53:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i am still studying
[2026-08-03 08:53:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i am still studying
[2026-08-03 08:54:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nice. what would you like to do?
[2026-08-03 08:54:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nice. what would you like to do?
[2026-08-03 08:54:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o i will fix the problems deli is telling about the internet
[2026-08-03 08:54:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o i will fix the problems deli is telling about the internet
[2026-08-03 08:54:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| they are bad
[2026-08-03 08:54:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| they are bad
[2026-08-03 08:55:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| wha about you syn
[2026-08-03 08:55:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| wha about you syn
[2026-08-03 08:55:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sorta. So instead of four octets, there's an unlimited number of octets. Under one approach, the fifth octet would denote a country. 
[2026-08-03 08:55:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sorta. So instead of four octets, there's an unlimited number of octets. Under one approach, the fifth octet would denote a country. 
[2026-08-03 08:55:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You could expand that indefinitely, too. If we expanded to another planet, for example, you could use the sixth or sevent octet and so on and so forth. You can also vastly increase the efficiency of global networks this way, by keeping traffic to the octet rings it is assigned to. So no hopping between a three and five octet address if the source is a three octet and the destination a four octet. 
[2026-08-03 08:55:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You could expand that indefinitely, too. If we expanded to another planet, for example, you could use the sixth or sevent octet and so on and so forth. You can also vastly increase the efficiency of global networks this way, by keeping traffic to the octet rings it is assigned to. So no hopping between a three and five octet address if the source is a three octet and the destination a four octet. 
[2026-08-03 08:55:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Each ring could have entrypoints to further refine it, so we could, for example, keep streaming traffic to a specific octet range and just shuffle it the fuck off somewhere.
[2026-08-03 08:55:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Each ring could have entrypoints to further refine it, so we could, for example, keep streaming traffic to a specific octet range and just shuffle it the fuck off somewhere.
[2026-08-03 08:56:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the internet is cooked mang. I plan to start the alternet instead
[2026-08-03 08:56:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the internet is cooked mang. I plan to start the alternet instead
[2026-08-03 08:56:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| internet backbone and BGP already accomplish the efficiency point
[2026-08-03 08:56:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| internet backbone and BGP already accomplish the efficiency point
[2026-08-03 08:56:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| not very effectively
[2026-08-03 08:56:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| not very effectively
[2026-08-03 08:57:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ping spikes are vastly more common these days
[2026-08-03 08:57:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ping spikes are vastly more common these days
[2026-08-03 08:57:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| if you mean to run an overlay then yeah
[2026-08-03 08:57:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| if you mean to run an overlay then yeah
[2026-08-03 08:57:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no I mean a separate internet
[2026-08-03 08:57:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no I mean a separate internet
[2026-08-03 08:57:49] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| o neato so for local network i could just address my router with "1" or whatever 😄
[2026-08-03 08:57:49] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| o neato so for local network i could just address my router with "1" or whatever 😄
[2026-08-03 08:57:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, that's not in spec
[2026-08-03 08:57:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, that's not in spec
[2026-08-03 08:58:03] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| ah min 4?
[2026-08-03 08:58:03] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| ah min 4?
[2026-08-03 08:58:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| probably. Number of octets would be determined by the type of network
[2026-08-03 08:58:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| probably. Number of octets would be determined by the type of network
[2026-08-03 08:58:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well when the internet started they ran it over telephone lines
[2026-08-03 08:58:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well when the internet started they ran it over telephone lines
[2026-08-03 08:58:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| for an average home user, they'd prolly keep to 192.168.x.x
[2026-08-03 08:58:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| for an average home user, they'd prolly keep to 192.168.x.x
[2026-08-03 08:58:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| as a packet transporting overlay that runs on a wire connector network
[2026-08-03 08:58:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| as a packet transporting overlay that runs on a wire connector network
[2026-08-03 08:58:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sure, arpanet etc etc
[2026-08-03 08:58:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sure, arpanet etc etc
[2026-08-03 08:59:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| if you make another internet, you can do the same
[2026-08-03 08:59:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| if you make another internet, you can do the same
[2026-08-03 08:59:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but what I mean is a completely separate internet. Problem is we don't have the advances in physics to realise this idea, so it's pretty confined to scifi for the moment
[2026-08-03 08:59:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but what I mean is a completely separate internet. Problem is we don't have the advances in physics to realise this idea, so it's pretty confined to scifi for the moment
[2026-08-03 08:59:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| because packet forwarding will be there
[2026-08-03 08:59:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| because packet forwarding will be there
[2026-08-03 08:59:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| imagine zero need for a telephone line or a fibre line
[2026-08-03 08:59:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| imagine zero need for a telephone line or a fibre line
[2026-08-03 08:59:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| just plug into a socket and go
[2026-08-03 08:59:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| just plug into a socket and go
[2026-08-03 09:00:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| a power socket, that is
[2026-08-03 09:00:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| a power socket, that is
[2026-08-03 09:00:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| ok the like
[2026-08-03 09:00:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| ok the like
[2026-08-03 09:00:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| very much science fiction atm
[2026-08-03 09:00:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| very much science fiction atm
[2026-08-03 09:00:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I dream of quantum pairng
[2026-08-03 09:00:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I dream of quantum pairng
[2026-08-03 09:00:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| existing power outlet networking is so bad 💀
[2026-08-03 09:00:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| existing power outlet networking is so bad 💀
[2026-08-03 09:00:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ew no, not that
[2026-08-03 09:00:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ew no, not that
[2026-08-03 09:01:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but why do that way, just use 10 trillion 5G radios
[2026-08-03 09:01:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but why do that way, just use 10 trillion 5G radios
[2026-08-03 09:01:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I tried a powerline kit once.
[2026-08-03 09:01:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I tried a powerline kit once.
[2026-08-03 09:01:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| *once*
[2026-08-03 09:01:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| *once*
[2026-08-03 09:01:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| 💀
[2026-08-03 09:01:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| 💀
[2026-08-03 09:01:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| wanna cook some hamsters like>?
[2026-08-03 09:01:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| wanna cook some hamsters like>?
[2026-08-03 09:01:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yes replace eveeryone's microwave oven with a 5G radio
[2026-08-03 09:01:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yes replace eveeryone's microwave oven with a 5G radio
[2026-08-03 09:01:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| so that it will be dual purpose
[2026-08-03 09:01:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| so that it will be dual purpose
[2026-08-03 09:02:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| f r e s h m e a t
[2026-08-03 09:02:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| f r e s h m e a t
[2026-08-03 09:02:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| the microwave ovens are all produced in just 2 factories anyways, just retool those 2 and you're good
[2026-08-03 09:02:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| the microwave ovens are all produced in just 2 factories anyways, just retool those 2 and you're good
[2026-08-03 09:02:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the cancer conspiracy theorists will go nucking futs
[2026-08-03 09:02:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the cancer conspiracy theorists will go nucking futs
[2026-08-03 09:02:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh ya another monopoly
[2026-08-03 09:02:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh ya another monopoly
[2026-08-03 09:02:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| two factories iirc owned byt he same outfit
[2026-08-03 09:02:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| two factories iirc owned byt he same outfit
[2026-08-03 09:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well that's kinda just the chinese manufacturing way lol
[2026-08-03 09:03:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well that's kinda just the chinese manufacturing way lol
[2026-08-03 09:03:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and we all just handed them all our production capability ☠️
[2026-08-03 09:03:28] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and we all just handed them all our production capability ☠️
[2026-08-03 09:03:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I looked in to trying to get something running and holy shit there's a lot that goes into a supply chain
[2026-08-03 09:03:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I looked in to trying to get something running and holy shit there's a lot that goes into a supply chain
[2026-08-03 09:04:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i mean they're also like
[2026-08-03 09:04:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i mean they're also like
[2026-08-03 09:04:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| all I wanted wa a british-made steel flask :(
[2026-08-03 09:04:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| all I wanted wa a british-made steel flask :(
[2026-08-03 09:04:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o
[2026-08-03 09:04:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o
[2026-08-03 09:04:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| you can make it in china easy and get your first products in 4 weeks lol
[2026-08-03 09:04:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| you can make it in china easy and get your first products in 4 weeks lol
[2026-08-03 09:05:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| china also subsidizes industries until they have most of the global share in those industries 💀
[2026-08-03 09:05:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| china also subsidizes industries until they have most of the global share in those industries 💀
[2026-08-03 09:05:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| meanwhile three other factories are being set up to sell your product at a tenth of the price
[2026-08-03 09:05:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| meanwhile three other factories are being set up to sell your product at a tenth of the price
[2026-08-03 09:05:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| like they did this with solar production, they like half got away with it with EVs
[2026-08-03 09:05:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| like they did this with solar production, they like half got away with it with EVs
[2026-08-03 09:05:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but then people realized and embargoed them 💀
[2026-08-03 09:05:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but then people realized and embargoed them 💀
[2026-08-03 09:06:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im a CISO
[2026-08-03 09:06:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im a CISO
[2026-08-03 09:06:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| need more of that tbh. Tax the fuck out of imports that we can produce domestically
[2026-08-03 09:06:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| need more of that tbh. Tax the fuck out of imports that we can produce domestically
[2026-08-03 09:06:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so i run the infosec policy at my company
[2026-08-03 09:06:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so i run the infosec policy at my company
[2026-08-03 09:07:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o some of my friends that's their dream job
[2026-08-03 09:07:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o some of my friends that's their dream job
[2026-08-03 09:07:49] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its my 2nd time being CISO now so hoping to do a better job than last time
[2026-08-03 09:07:49] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its my 2nd time being CISO now so hoping to do a better job than last time
[2026-08-03 09:08:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its a fairly recent promotion so lots of the plans for the next year or so still being finalised
[2026-08-03 09:08:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its a fairly recent promotion so lots of the plans for the next year or so still being finalised
[2026-08-03 09:08:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well this problem isnt so bad if the WTO isnt disabled by china too lol
[2026-08-03 09:08:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well this problem isnt so bad if the WTO isnt disabled by china too lol
[2026-08-03 09:08:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf the wto would frown on that sort of taxation. so fuck 'em
[2026-08-03 09:08:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf the wto would frown on that sort of taxation. so fuck 'em
[2026-08-03 09:08:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ineffective weak sap shit anyway
[2026-08-03 09:08:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ineffective weak sap shit anyway
[2026-08-03 09:09:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| a
[2026-08-03 09:09:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| a
[2026-08-03 09:10:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well good luck syn it sounds like you've learned from that experience lol
[2026-08-03 09:10:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| well good luck syn it sounds like you've learned from that experience lol
[2026-08-03 09:10:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| appreciate it 🙂 its fairly terrifying but its where im supposed to be for sure
[2026-08-03 09:10:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| appreciate it 🙂 its fairly terrifying but its where im supposed to be for sure
[2026-08-03 09:10:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| it's cool stuff yeah i used to do lots of it
[2026-08-03 09:10:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| it's cool stuff yeah i used to do lots of it
[2026-08-03 09:10:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| new internal attack vectors from employees vibe coding stuff and trying to deploy it to prod
[2026-08-03 09:11:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| new internal attack vectors from employees vibe coding stuff and trying to deploy it to prod
[2026-08-03 09:11:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| infosec the field of mitigating human vulnerabilities
[2026-08-03 09:11:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| infosec the field of mitigating human vulnerabilities
[2026-08-03 09:11:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ive found some pretty hilarious stuff so far
[2026-08-03 09:11:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ive found some pretty hilarious stuff so far
[2026-08-03 09:11:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| password pages where the password is hard coded in the rendered html for example
[2026-08-03 09:11:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| password pages where the password is hard coded in the rendered html for example
[2026-08-03 09:12:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| aaaAAAAAHH
[2026-08-03 09:12:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| aaaAAAAAHH
[2026-08-03 09:12:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah i guess the web people are having a blast with their weird attacks lol
[2026-08-03 09:12:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah i guess the web people are having a blast with their weird attacks lol
[2026-08-03 09:12:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| have since given a lecture on how to best use IAP
[2026-08-03 09:12:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| have since given a lecture on how to best use IAP
[2026-08-03 09:13:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/gcp/cloud-identity-aware-proxy-a-more-secure-way-to-move-internal-apps-to-gcp/ - this has saved a lot of auth headaches
[2026-08-03 09:13:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/gcp/cloud-identity-aware-proxy-a-more-secure-way-to-move-internal-apps-to-gcp/ - this has saved a lot of auth headaches
[2026-08-03 09:13:26] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i still think web app security and pentesting is the least enjoyable thing in infosec
[2026-08-03 09:13:26] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i still think web app security and pentesting is the least enjoyable thing in infosec
[2026-08-03 09:13:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| pentest the people
[2026-08-03 09:13:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| pentest the people
[2026-08-03 09:13:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a fair take
[2026-08-03 09:13:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a fair take
[2026-08-03 09:13:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i worked at GCHQ for a while and there we treated security as a whole field
[2026-08-03 09:13:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i worked at GCHQ for a while and there we treated security as a whole field
[2026-08-03 09:13:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I heard a story once. Dude managed to get into asecure building with a wet towel
[2026-08-03 09:13:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I heard a story once. Dude managed to get into asecure building with a wet towel
[2026-08-03 09:14:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| both physical and information
[2026-08-03 09:14:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| both physical and information
[2026-08-03 09:14:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| physical pentesting always sounded so cool to me
[2026-08-03 09:14:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| physical pentesting always sounded so cool to me
[2026-08-03 09:14:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| actually they do it's pretty funny
[2026-08-03 09:14:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| actually they do it's pretty funny
[2026-08-03 09:14:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| social engineering, scanning passes, picking locks
[2026-08-03 09:14:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| social engineering, scanning passes, picking locks
[2026-08-03 09:14:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah ive ran phishing campaigns internally
[2026-08-03 09:14:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah ive ran phishing campaigns internally
[2026-08-03 09:14:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| those are quite normal by now
[2026-08-03 09:14:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| those are quite normal by now
[2026-08-03 09:14:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oooooh
[2026-08-03 09:14:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oooooh
[2026-08-03 09:15:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| i just had a silly idea
[2026-08-03 09:15:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| i just had a silly idea
[2026-08-03 09:15:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| phishing is the only practical attack vector anyways
[2026-08-03 09:15:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| phishing is the only practical attack vector anyways
[2026-08-03 09:15:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| unless you are a government agency
[2026-08-03 09:15:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| unless you are a government agency
[2026-08-03 09:15:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| rca-style key plus rfid pass
[2026-08-03 09:15:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| rca-style key plus rfid pass
[2026-08-03 09:15:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ehhh disagree
[2026-08-03 09:15:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ehhh disagree
[2026-08-03 09:15:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| supply chain risk is higher risk right now for us than phishing
[2026-08-03 09:15:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| supply chain risk is higher risk right now for us than phishing
[2026-08-03 09:15:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| people adding dependencies to their projects with no regards for source
[2026-08-03 09:15:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| people adding dependencies to their projects with no regards for source
[2026-08-03 09:15:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Have you rented a similar-looking domain yet
[2026-08-03 09:15:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Have you rented a similar-looking domain yet
[2026-08-03 09:16:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not pinning versions
[2026-08-03 09:16:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not pinning versions
[2026-08-03 09:16:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we have but only for IP reasons. interesting idea
[2026-08-03 09:16:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we have but only for IP reasons. interesting idea
[2026-08-03 09:16:26] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah but all this is so hard to do you have to do obfuscation and write a working dependency people will try using
[2026-08-03 09:16:26] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| yeah but all this is so hard to do you have to do obfuscation and write a working dependency people will try using
[2026-08-03 09:16:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this assumes people are reading the code of the deps they are adding
[2026-08-03 09:16:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this assumes people are reading the code of the deps they are adding
[2026-08-03 09:17:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a simple typo can turn a legit install into a malicious one
[2026-08-03 09:17:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a simple typo can turn a legit install into a malicious one
[2026-08-03 09:17:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| phishing you dont even have to be good at :\
[2026-08-03 09:17:13] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| phishing you dont even have to be good at :\
[2026-08-03 09:17:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya, use ascii chars that look similar to utf chars. Then craft emails from ti that look exactly like yours, point to a page on your false site that looks legit, guarantee you will fool most people
[2026-08-03 09:17:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya, use ascii chars that look similar to utf chars. Then craft emails from ti that look exactly like yours, point to a page on your false site that looks legit, guarantee you will fool most people
[2026-08-03 09:17:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| prolyl fool me too
[2026-08-03 09:17:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| prolyl fool me too
[2026-08-03 09:17:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but some people are crazy at phishing
[2026-08-03 09:17:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| but some people are crazy at phishing
[2026-08-03 09:17:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it;s more an excuse to give phishing awareness talks than an actual test
[2026-08-03 09:17:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it;s more an excuse to give phishing awareness talks than an actual test
[2026-08-03 09:17:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i saw some AUR has actually just disabled new arch packages
[2026-08-03 09:17:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i saw some AUR has actually just disabled new arch packages
[2026-08-03 09:17:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| due to supply chain risk and influx of exploited packages
[2026-08-03 09:17:56] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| due to supply chain risk and influx of exploited packages
[2026-08-03 09:17:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i think AUR security is a joke
[2026-08-03 09:17:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| i think AUR security is a joke
[2026-08-03 09:18:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| you just cant update your AUR packages
[2026-08-03 09:18:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| you just cant update your AUR packages
[2026-08-03 09:18:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| unfortunately my company is very small and highly skilled
[2026-08-03 09:18:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| unfortunately my company is very small and highly skilled
[2026-08-03 09:18:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i need to be sneaky to get them
[2026-08-03 09:18:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i need to be sneaky to get them
[2026-08-03 09:18:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You and I are both highly skilled too, but I guarantee that we both have a substantial chance of falling for it
[2026-08-03 09:18:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You and I are both highly skilled too, but I guarantee that we both have a substantial chance of falling for it
[2026-08-03 09:18:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we dont have receptionists or cleaners that usually make up initial access vectors
[2026-08-03 09:18:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we dont have receptionists or cleaners that usually make up initial access vectors
[2026-08-03 09:19:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| actually i think the most sophisticated phishing attackers should just switch to insider trading
[2026-08-03 09:19:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| actually i think the most sophisticated phishing attackers should just switch to insider trading
[2026-08-03 09:19:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| potentially true. i havent seen internal campaigns go to this much effort
[2026-08-03 09:19:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| potentially true. i havent seen internal campaigns go to this much effort
[2026-08-03 09:20:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| they can already figure out so much to set up their phishing attacks
[2026-08-03 09:20:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| they can already figure out so much to set up their phishing attacks
[2026-08-03 09:20:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| there ar ereal phishing attacks that do. Prolly less likely for a smaller org, but some market sectors are prime targets. there's absolutely fuckign loads out there
[2026-08-03 09:20:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| there ar ereal phishing attacks that do. Prolly less likely for a smaller org, but some market sectors are prime targets. there's absolutely fuckign loads out there
[2026-08-03 09:21:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but the people that most often fall for phishing dont often have any real information to offer anyway
[2026-08-03 09:21:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but the people that most often fall for phishing dont often have any real information to offer anyway
[2026-08-03 09:21:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| just an authorised gateway to escalate through
[2026-08-03 09:21:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| just an authorised gateway to escalate through
[2026-08-03 09:21:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| roi is low, but investment is cheap af
[2026-08-03 09:21:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| roi is low, but investment is cheap af
[2026-08-03 09:22:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i need to start going to conferences more and showing my face
[2026-08-03 09:22:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i need to start going to conferences more and showing my face
[2026-08-03 09:22:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i need access to things and i need bigger networks
[2026-08-03 09:22:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i need access to things and i need bigger networks
[2026-08-03 09:22:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wish we had a UK based defcon
[2026-08-03 09:22:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wish we had a UK based defcon
[2026-08-03 09:23:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah, me too. though i think i have secured budget to allow me to go to blackhat and defcon
[2026-08-03 09:23:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah, me too. though i think i have secured budget to allow me to go to blackhat and defcon
[2026-08-03 09:23:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| next year
[2026-08-03 09:23:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| next year
[2026-08-03 09:23:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| hopefully i can meet people at those that can help me get to anthropic/openai into their trusted cyber access
[2026-08-03 09:23:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| hopefully i can meet people at those that can help me get to anthropic/openai into their trusted cyber access
[2026-08-03 09:23:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh btw, get yourself on https://lists.netuk.org/sympa/subscribe/members
[2026-08-03 09:23:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh btw, get yourself on https://lists.netuk.org/sympa/subscribe/members
[2026-08-03 09:23:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| basically a uk based network ops group
[2026-08-03 09:23:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| basically a uk based network ops group
[2026-08-03 09:23:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its so frustrating trying to triage vulns or access logs and being met with model downgrades
[2026-08-03 09:23:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its so frustrating trying to triage vulns or access logs and being met with model downgrades
[2026-08-03 09:23:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| did they make their own gnu mailman lol
[2026-08-03 09:23:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| did they make their own gnu mailman lol
[2026-08-03 09:24:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i have a series of points im developing into slides/lectures that i wanna deliver in places
[2026-08-03 09:24:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i have a series of points im developing into slides/lectures that i wanna deliver in places
[2026-08-03 09:25:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| hah, they did too
[2026-08-03 09:25:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| hah, they did too
[2026-08-03 09:25:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| basically on how a good security posture is the only way to enable confident AI acceleration
[2026-08-03 09:25:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| basically on how a good security posture is the only way to enable confident AI acceleration
[2026-08-03 09:25:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it's been years of me evangelising AI when my peers are doing mostly the opposite and its been tough to really figure out why
[2026-08-03 09:25:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it's been years of me evangelising AI when my peers are doing mostly the opposite and its been tough to really figure out why
[2026-08-03 09:26:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| my leading theory and the hypothesis for these points is that i understand to a deeper extent when bugs are actually problematic and when things are actually exposed
[2026-08-03 09:26:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| my leading theory and the hypothesis for these points is that i understand to a deeper extent when bugs are actually problematic and when things are actually exposed
[2026-08-03 09:26:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| lots of devs dont think as bugs as vulns or vice versa
[2026-08-03 09:26:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| lots of devs dont think as bugs as vulns or vice versa
[2026-08-03 09:27:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| quite easy to press the fast forward button if you treat it like a black box of inputs/outputs
[2026-08-03 09:27:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| quite easy to press the fast forward button if you treat it like a black box of inputs/outputs
[2026-08-03 09:27:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| dont a lot of devs not consider security much anyways
[2026-08-03 09:27:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| dont a lot of devs not consider security much anyways
[2026-08-03 09:27:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| now it's even easier
[2026-08-03 09:27:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| now it's even easier
[2026-08-03 09:28:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i only really work with seniors where they do have basic understandings of common exploit patterns
[2026-08-03 09:28:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i only really work with seniors where they do have basic understandings of common exploit patterns
[2026-08-03 09:28:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| at least knowing things like the owasp top10 exists
[2026-08-03 09:28:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| at least knowing things like the owasp top10 exists
[2026-08-03 09:28:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o
[2026-08-03 09:28:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o
[2026-08-03 09:28:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we are iso27k1 certified so they also have to do tons of policy and change management
[2026-08-03 09:28:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we are iso27k1 certified so they also have to do tons of policy and change management
[2026-08-03 09:29:00] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but you're mostly right
[2026-08-03 09:29:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but you're mostly right
[2026-08-03 09:29:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| most devs cant tell you the difference between authn and authz
[2026-08-03 09:29:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| most devs cant tell you the difference between authn and authz
[2026-08-03 09:37:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| (authn - authentication - who you are - do you have an identity)
[2026-08-03 09:37:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| (authn - authentication - who you are - do you have an identity)
[2026-08-03 09:37:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| (authz - authorization - what you are - does your identity have permission for this)
[2026-08-03 09:37:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| (authz - authorization - what you are - does your identity have permission for this)
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[2026-08-03 11:15:55] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| 6 million views?!?!?!
[2026-08-03 11:15:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| 6 million views?!?!?!
[2026-08-03 11:16:07] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @reggaetonero_
[2026-08-03 11:16:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @reggaetonero_
[2026-08-03 11:16:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1533855995585888377/IMG_0833.png?ex=6a720237&is=6a70b0b7&hm=39d336d3b8893f5101301d55092417c3b0c9c01109cab74997a2d0ab5869511f&
[2026-08-03 11:16:08] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1533855995585888377/IMG_0833.png?ex=6a720237&is=6a70b0b7&hm=39d336d3b8893f5101301d55092417c3b0c9c01109cab74997a2d0ab5869511f&
[2026-08-03 11:17:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:gyal| red box power baby
[2026-08-03 11:17:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:gyal| red box power baby
[2026-08-03 11:22:50] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| your hard work finally paid off a bit
[2026-08-03 11:22:50] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| your hard work finally paid off a bit
[2026-08-03 11:22:59] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| i gotta lock back into shorts again
[2026-08-03 11:22:59] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| i gotta lock back into shorts again
[2026-08-03 11:33:52] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| 6.3 minutes views
[2026-08-03 11:33:52] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| 6.3 minutes views
[2026-08-03 11:41:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| unfortunately its another meaningful data point in the theory that long form videos or close to 100x more effective at converting users than shorts
[2026-08-03 11:41:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| unfortunately its another meaningful data point in the theory that long form videos or close to 100x more effective at converting users than shorts
[2026-08-03 11:43:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| 6 million views is still 6 million views. Cant be happy for gyal? I come to tron from Olive short.
[2026-08-03 11:43:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| 6 million views is still 6 million views. Cant be happy for gyal? I come to tron from Olive short.
[2026-08-03 11:44:45] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| Where can I watch that? ^^
[2026-08-03 11:44:45] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| Where can I watch that? ^^
[2026-08-03 11:44:48] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| Link please
[2026-08-03 11:44:48] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| Link please
[2026-08-03 11:47:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| But yeah, basic logic. People just watch, scroll and forgot. But when they click on long form video guide its more likely to hold attention. Ive seen someone make entire research on tron short\videos XD, holy unemployement.
[2026-08-03 11:47:22] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| But yeah, basic logic. People just watch, scroll and forgot. But when they click on long form video guide its more likely to hold attention. Ive seen someone make entire research on tron short\videos XD, holy unemployement.
[2026-08-03 11:48:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Scroll "Shorts" channel.
[2026-08-03 11:48:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Scroll "Shorts" channel.
[2026-08-03 11:48:41] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| the caveat of this data point being that the long form videos are kronkletron long form videos and shorts were used to grow the channel + establish audience beforehand
[2026-08-03 11:48:42] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| the caveat of this data point being that the long form videos are kronkletron long form videos and shorts were used to grow the channel + establish audience beforehand
[2026-08-03 11:50:05] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| we should do an event called friday night tron, where we all play on a server and make videos or stream us playing and having fun in vc
[2026-08-03 11:50:05] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| we should do an event called friday night tron, where we all play on a server and make videos or stream us playing and having fun in vc
[2026-08-03 11:50:32] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Or... just play game.
[2026-08-03 11:50:32] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Or... just play game.
[2026-08-03 11:50:32] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| make it a tuesday and i'm down
[2026-08-03 11:50:33] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| make it a tuesday and i'm down
[2026-08-03 11:51:11] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| and no tst
[2026-08-03 11:51:12] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| and no tst
[2026-08-03 11:51:19] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Based
[2026-08-03 11:51:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Based
[2026-08-03 11:52:07] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| diff mode everyone
[2026-08-03 11:52:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| diff mode everyone
[2026-08-03 11:52:09] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| everytime.8
[2026-08-03 11:52:09] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| everytime.8
[2026-08-03 11:52:13] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| fuck spelling
[2026-08-03 11:52:13] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| fuck spelling
[2026-08-03 11:52:30] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| you completely missed the point
[2026-08-03 11:52:30] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| you completely missed the point
[2026-08-03 11:52:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Oh yeah?
[2026-08-03 11:52:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Oh yeah?
[2026-08-03 11:52:45] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| most random day
[2026-08-03 11:52:46] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| most random day
[2026-08-03 11:53:12] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| are you teasing me?
[2026-08-03 11:53:12] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| are you teasing me?
[2026-08-03 11:54:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| tronlympics:
[2026-08-03 11:54:50] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| tronlympics:
[2026-08-03 11:54:51] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| - CTF
[2026-08-03 11:54:52] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| - CTF
[2026-08-03 11:54:52] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| - wildcat
[2026-08-03 11:54:53] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| - wildcat
[2026-08-03 11:54:53] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| - jungle sumo
[2026-08-03 11:54:54] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| - jungle sumo
[2026-08-03 11:54:55] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| - CTWF
[2026-08-03 11:54:55] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| - CTWF
[2026-08-03 11:54:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| - styball
[2026-08-03 11:54:57] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| - styball
[2026-08-03 11:54:57] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| - fort
[2026-08-03 11:54:58] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| - fort
[2026-08-03 11:54:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| O-live
[2026-08-03 11:54:59] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| O-live
[2026-08-03 11:55:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| O-dead
[2026-08-03 11:55:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| O-dead
[2026-08-03 11:55:16] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| What is CTWF?
[2026-08-03 11:55:16] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| What is CTWF?
[2026-08-03 11:55:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| crazy tronners wild fort
[2026-08-03 11:55:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| crazy tronners wild fort
[2026-08-03 11:55:39] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| capture the walrus fuck
[2026-08-03 11:55:39] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| capture the walrus fuck
[2026-08-03 11:55:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0x5EiiVbhQ
[2026-08-03 11:55:47] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0x5EiiVbhQ
[2026-08-03 11:55:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| xkx typing speed 20 wpm
[2026-08-03 11:55:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| xkx typing speed 20 wpm
[2026-08-03 11:56:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Ik, forgot
[2026-08-03 11:56:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Ik, forgot
[2026-08-03 11:56:14] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| i’m phone
[2026-08-03 11:56:14] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| i’m phone
[2026-08-03 11:56:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Im cookie
[2026-08-03 11:56:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Im cookie
[2026-08-03 11:56:24] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| doesnt excuse 20wpm
[2026-08-03 11:56:24] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| doesnt excuse 20wpm
[2026-08-03 11:56:41] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| ok i’ll 1v1 all three if you in typing speed next time im on pc
[2026-08-03 11:56:41] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| ok i’ll 1v1 all three if you in typing speed next time im on pc
[2026-08-03 11:56:46] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| of*
[2026-08-03 11:56:47] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| of*
[2026-08-03 11:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| LOL!
[2026-08-03 11:56:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| LOL!
[2026-08-03 11:57:00] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| you have no clue
[2026-08-03 11:57:00] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| you have no clue
[2026-08-03 11:57:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im certain you dont want that smoke
[2026-08-03 11:57:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im certain you dont want that smoke
[2026-08-03 11:57:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| tron vets filter for fast typists
[2026-08-03 11:57:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| tron vets filter for fast typists
[2026-08-03 12:10:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o time to start practicing again
[2026-08-03 12:10:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:rynkoo| o time to start practicing again
[2026-08-03 12:30:26] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:CTF Brawl #49 Aug 15th| Xkx using Nokia 2110
[2026-08-03 12:30:27] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:CTF Brawl #49 Aug 15th| Xkx using Nokia 2110
[2026-08-03 12:31:14] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:refundinstruction| !add
[2026-08-03 12:31:14] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:refundinstruction| !add
[2026-08-03 12:39:01] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| consider using a blackberry phone!
[2026-08-03 12:39:01] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| consider using a blackberry phone!
[2026-08-03 12:54:38] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| i miss those phones
[2026-08-03 12:54:38] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| i miss those phones
[2026-08-03 12:55:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| i remember being a kid texting people in those and playing the couple games they came with like snake and 2048
[2026-08-03 12:55:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| i remember being a kid texting people in those and playing the couple games they came with like snake and 2048
[2026-08-03 12:57:01] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| @anjo3060 @olive2306 @reggaetonero_ if you guys need inspiration, it'd probably be fun if you guys work together and make an Any Austin style video ^^ https://www.youtube.com/@any_austin
[2026-08-03 12:57:01] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| @anjo3060 @olive2306 @reggaetonero_ if you guys need inspiration, it'd probably be fun if you guys work together and make an Any Austin style video ^^ https://www.youtube.com/@any_austin
[2026-08-03 12:58:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| this is cool and we have sth similar in tetris effect. but too many events
[2026-08-03 12:58:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| this is cool and we have sth similar in tetris effect. but too many events
[2026-08-03 12:59:07] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| not to many events, just need better organization
[2026-08-03 12:59:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| not to many events, just need better organization
[2026-08-03 12:59:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| first of all idk like most of those
[2026-08-03 12:59:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| first of all idk like most of those
[2026-08-03 12:59:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| so percentage of players are smol
[2026-08-03 12:59:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| so percentage of players are smol
[2026-08-03 12:59:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| secondly you need to accomodate for max team size, so ig they could send 1-X players to each event
[2026-08-03 12:59:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| secondly you need to accomodate for max team size, so ig they could send 1-X players to each event
[2026-08-03 13:00:56] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| every friday we could do Friday Night Tron, Where everyone hops on and we play a special mode and have fun, 1st Sunday of every month have ladle, 2nd sunday, do sbt, 3rd sunday do tst, and last saturday rotate a couple things
[2026-08-03 13:00:56] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| every friday we could do Friday Night Tron, Where everyone hops on and we play a special mode and have fun, 1st Sunday of every month have ladle, 2nd sunday, do sbt, 3rd sunday do tst, and last saturday rotate a couple things
[2026-08-03 13:01:11] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| tbf it’s lack of effort to properly grab players for events
[2026-08-03 13:01:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| tbf it’s lack of effort to properly grab players for events
[2026-08-03 13:01:31] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| half the people here don’t even realize an event is going on hence why no one plays them and if they do know they know to late
[2026-08-03 13:01:31] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| half the people here don’t even realize an event is going on hence why no one plays them and if they do know they know to late
[2026-08-03 13:01:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| oh i thought u meant one event for all modes
[2026-08-03 13:01:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| oh i thought u meant one event for all modes
[2026-08-03 13:01:54] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| that could work
[2026-08-03 13:01:54] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| that could work
[2026-08-03 13:01:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| as a yearly thing
[2026-08-03 13:01:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| as a yearly thing
[2026-08-03 13:02:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| we have this for classic, score attack, and zone battle in tetris effect
[2026-08-03 13:02:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| we have this for classic, score attack, and zone battle in tetris effect
[2026-08-03 13:02:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| easy cos its all one player
[2026-08-03 13:02:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| easy cos its all one player
[2026-08-03 13:02:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| and only 3 modes
[2026-08-03 13:02:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| and only 3 modes
[2026-08-03 13:02:18] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| mmm i been wanting to get into tetris
[2026-08-03 13:02:19] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| mmm i been wanting to get into tetris
[2026-08-03 13:04:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| i was just thinkign in the last fort game
[2026-08-03 13:04:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| i was just thinkign in the last fort game
[2026-08-03 13:04:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| such a different dynamic where staying alive is okay
[2026-08-03 13:04:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| such a different dynamic where staying alive is okay
[2026-08-03 13:05:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:wongsz| tetris doing nothing is no bueno
[2026-08-03 13:05:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:wongsz| tetris doing nothing is no bueno
[2026-08-03 14:54:33] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:CTF Brawl #49 Aug 15th| Tetris is next level shit. It scares me. 💀
[2026-08-03 14:54:34] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:CTF Brawl #49 Aug 15th| Tetris is next level shit. It scares me. 💀
[2026-08-03 14:55:36] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:CTF Brawl #49 Aug 15th| https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAVS7gW8/
[2026-08-03 14:55:36] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:CTF Brawl #49 Aug 15th| https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAVS7gW8/
[2026-08-03 16:03:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Comment section is another proof that tike toke and instagrahm is shit, normal people sit on youtube shorts.
[2026-08-03 16:03:26] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:lord_cookie.| Comment section is another proof that tike toke and instagrahm is shit, normal people sit on youtube shorts.
[2026-08-03 16:36:42] --> Lucifer_arma has joined the channel
[2026-08-03 17:09:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://fixupx.com/awwstn/status/2084084008263303582?s=46
[2026-08-03 17:09:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://fixupx.com/awwstn/status/2084084008263303582?s=46
[2026-08-03 17:09:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we can’t even imagine how it will look
[2026-08-03 17:09:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we can’t even imagine how it will look
[2026-08-03 18:14:05] --> Monkey_arma has joined the channel
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[2026-08-03 20:16:53] <Lucifer_arma> what is a champagne supernova?
[2026-08-03 20:16:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| what is a champagne supernova?
[2026-08-03 20:17:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I dont know but I believe its found in the sky
[2026-08-03 20:17:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I dont know but I believe its found in the sky
[2026-08-03 20:22:37] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| Did you see I replied to your AI question Lucifer?^^
[2026-08-03 20:22:37] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| Did you see I replied to your AI question Lucifer?^^
[2026-08-03 20:22:55] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| Sorry about the delay
[2026-08-03 20:22:55] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| Sorry about the delay
[2026-08-03 20:24:42] <Lucifer_arma> on the forums or here?  If it's here, I can't see it.  I'm not lurking all the time anymore.  :/
[2026-08-03 20:24:42] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| on the forums or here?  If it's here, I can't see it.  I'm not lurking all the time anymore.  :/
[2026-08-03 21:06:11] <Lucifer_arma> ok, minimum age requirement for dating: she needs to be old enough to understand what Zombie is about
[2026-08-03 21:06:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, minimum age requirement for dating: she needs to be old enough to understand what Zombie is about
[2026-08-03 22:15:53] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Rx.pdbq| is there a way to disable/hide the hud? I found the command show_HUD 0, but when I tried it I got the response "command show_hud unknown" (i'm on 0.4)
[2026-08-03 22:15:54] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Rx.pdbq| is there a way to disable/hide the hud? I found the command show_HUD 0, but when I tried it I got the response "command show_hud unknown" (i'm on 0.4)
[2026-08-03 22:26:16] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| on 0.4 you have to change the cockpit. Technically, you can just set it to a blank or invalid cockpit `COCKPIT_FILE ""` but the correct way would be to have a cockpit that is completely blank
[2026-08-03 22:26:16] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| on 0.4 you have to change the cockpit. Technically, you can just set it to a blank or invalid cockpit `COCKPIT_FILE ""` but the correct way would be to have a cockpit that is completely blank
[2026-08-03 22:49:14] <-- Lucifer_arma has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[2026-08-03 23:36:41] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| Here:
[2026-08-03 23:36:41] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| Here:
[2026-08-03 23:37:39] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:pruword| https://discord.com/channels/209759416604426242/209759416604426242/1533682728028082348
[2026-08-03 23:37:39] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:pruword| https://discord.com/channels/209759416604426242/209759416604426242/1533682728028082348

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