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[2026-07-16 00:16:40] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| Dont raise ur voice while speaking to me 🤫🤫, and also u look like canadian
[2026-07-16 00:16:41] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| Dont raise ur voice while speaking to me 🤫🤫, and also u look like canadian
[2026-07-16 02:05:30] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| ## __Open Fort US lover? -- Check out Open CTF Beginner Friendly!__
[2026-07-16 02:05:30] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| # ***Open CTF Capture the Flag Beginner Friendly* — US server is live!**
[2026-07-16 02:05:30] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| ## __Open Fort US lover? -- Check out Open CTF Beginner Friendly!__
[2026-07-16 02:05:31] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| # ***Open CTF Capture the Flag Beginner Friendly* — US server is live!**
[2026-07-16 02:05:32] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| *Raid the enemy base, snatch their flag, and race it home through walls and rival cycles. 4v4 teamwork, split-second cuts, and clutch returns *|* first team to 150 points wins.*
[2026-07-16 02:05:33] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| *Raid the enemy base, snatch their flag, and race it home through walls and rival cycles. 4v4 teamwork, split-second cuts, and clutch returns *|* first team to 150 points wins.*
[2026-07-16 02:05:33] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Jump in now and get your reps in before the August tournament.
[2026-07-16 02:05:34] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Jump in now and get your reps in before the August tournament.
[2026-07-16 02:05:34] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| **CTF Basics (4v4):**
[2026-07-16 02:05:35] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| **CTF Basics (4v4):**
[2026-07-16 02:05:36] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| __Roles__
[2026-07-16 02:05:36] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| __Roles__
[2026-07-16 02:05:37] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > 2 Attackers – Work together to pressure the enemy, create holes in defense, capture the flag, and base-camp after getting kills.
[2026-07-16 02:05:38] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > 2 Attackers – Work together to pressure the enemy, create holes in defense, capture the flag, and base-camp after getting kills.
[2026-07-16 02:05:38] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Defender – Protects the flag space and prevents enemy captures.
[2026-07-16 02:05:39] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Defender – Protects the flag space and prevents enemy captures.
[2026-07-16 02:05:40] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Support – Flexible role that helps defend, respawns attackers, covers holes, and fills whatever role the team needs.
[2026-07-16 02:05:40] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Support – Flexible role that helps defend, respawns attackers, covers holes, and fills whatever role the team needs.
[2026-07-16 02:05:41] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| __Key Tactics__
[2026-07-16 02:05:42] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| __Key Tactics__
[2026-07-16 02:05:42] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Communicate with your teammates at all times.
[2026-07-16 02:05:43] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Communicate with your teammates at all times.
[2026-07-16 02:05:43] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Aim to get the first kill, then base-camp to prevent enemy respawns and build a player advantage.
[2026-07-16 02:05:44] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Aim to get the first kill, then base-camp to prevent enemy respawns and build a player advantage.
[2026-07-16 02:05:45] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Hole with purpose; don't spam attempts. Fake holes can force defenders out of position.
[2026-07-16 02:05:46] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Hole with purpose; don't spam attempts. Fake holes can force defenders out of position.
[2026-07-16 02:05:46] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Work together during flag runs and use /drop (type **/drop** in chat to drop the flag) to pass the flag to a teammate for a faster return.
[2026-07-16 02:05:47] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Work together during flag runs and use /drop (type **/drop** in chat to drop the flag) to pass the flag to a teammate for a faster return.
[2026-07-16 02:05:47] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| __General Strategy__
[2026-07-16 02:05:48] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| __General Strategy__
[2026-07-16 02:05:49] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > CTF is all about maintaining a player advantage. If your team is up a player (4v3), immediately pressure their base and prevent respawns. If you're down players, focus on defending and staying alive until your team can recover. Good positioning, teamwork, and communication are often more important than individual skill.
[2026-07-16 02:05:49] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > CTF is all about maintaining a player advantage. If your team is up a player (4v3), immediately pressure their base and prevent respawns. If you're down players, focus on defending and staying alive until your team can recover. Good positioning, teamwork, and communication are often more important than individual skill.
[2026-07-16 02:05:50] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| New to CTF? Perfect place to learn the ropes:
[2026-07-16 02:05:51] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| New to CTF? Perfect place to learn the ropes:
[2026-07-16 02:05:51] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527194448960819240/image.png?ex=6a59c62a&is=6a5874aa&hm=4d6d35a24f0697069f219db77c43a7abea2f2e0e732ae17200f9792d7519e893&
[2026-07-16 02:05:52] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527194448960819240/image.png?ex=6a59c62a&is=6a5874aa&hm=4d6d35a24f0697069f219db77c43a7abea2f2e0e732ae17200f9792d7519e893&
[2026-07-16 02:08:47] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| ## __Open Fort US lover? -- Check out Open CTF Beginner Friendly!__
[2026-07-16 02:08:47] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| # ***Open CTF Capture the Flag Beginner Friendly* — US server is live!**
[2026-07-16 02:08:47] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| ## __Open Fort US lover? -- Check out Open CTF Beginner Friendly!__
[2026-07-16 02:08:48] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| # ***Open CTF Capture the Flag Beginner Friendly* — US server is live!**
[2026-07-16 02:08:48] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| *Raid the enemy base, snatch their flag, and race it home through walls and rival cycles. 4v4 teamwork, split-second cuts, and clutch returns* | *first team to 150 points wins.*
[2026-07-16 02:08:49] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| *Raid the enemy base, snatch their flag, and race it home through walls and rival cycles. 4v4 teamwork, split-second cuts, and clutch returns* | *first team to 150 points wins.*
[2026-07-16 02:08:49] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Jump in now and get your reps in before the August tournament.
[2026-07-16 02:08:50] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Jump in now and get your reps in before the August tournament.
[2026-07-16 02:08:51] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| **CTF Basics (4v4):**
[2026-07-16 02:08:51] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| **CTF Basics (4v4):**
[2026-07-16 02:08:52] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| __Roles__
[2026-07-16 02:08:53] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| __Roles__
[2026-07-16 02:08:53] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > 2 Attackers – Work together to pressure the enemy, create holes in defense, capture the flag, and base-camp after getting kills.
[2026-07-16 02:08:54] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > 2 Attackers – Work together to pressure the enemy, create holes in defense, capture the flag, and base-camp after getting kills.
[2026-07-16 02:08:55] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Defender – Protects the flag space and prevents enemy captures.
[2026-07-16 02:08:55] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Defender – Protects the flag space and prevents enemy captures.
[2026-07-16 02:08:56] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Support – Flexible role that helps defend, respawns attackers, covers holes, and fills whatever role the team needs.
[2026-07-16 02:08:57] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > 1 Support – Flexible role that helps defend, respawns attackers, covers holes, and fills whatever role the team needs.
[2026-07-16 02:08:57] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| __Key Tactics__
[2026-07-16 02:08:58] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| __Key Tactics__
[2026-07-16 02:08:58] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Communicate with your teammates at all times.
[2026-07-16 02:08:59] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Communicate with your teammates at all times.
[2026-07-16 02:09:00] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Aim to get the first kill, then base-camp to prevent enemy respawns and build a player advantage.
[2026-07-16 02:09:01] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Aim to get the first kill, then base-camp to prevent enemy respawns and build a player advantage.
[2026-07-16 02:09:01] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Hole with purpose—don't spam attempts. Fake holes can force defenders out of position.
[2026-07-16 02:09:02] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Hole with purpose—don't spam attempts. Fake holes can force defenders out of position.
[2026-07-16 02:09:02] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > Work together during flag runs and use /drop (type **/drop** in chat to drop the flag) to pass the flag to a teammate for a faster return.
[2026-07-16 02:09:03] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > Work together during flag runs and use /drop (type **/drop** in chat to drop the flag) to pass the flag to a teammate for a faster return.
[2026-07-16 02:09:04] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| __General Strategy__
[2026-07-16 02:09:04] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| __General Strategy__
[2026-07-16 02:09:05] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| > CTF is all about maintaining a player advantage. If your team is up a player (4v3), immediately pressure their base and prevent respawns. If you're down players, focus on defending and staying alive until your team can recover. Good positioning, teamwork, and communication are often more important than individual skill.
[2026-07-16 02:09:06] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| > CTF is all about maintaining a player advantage. If your team is up a player (4v3), immediately pressure their base and prevent respawns. If you're down players, focus on defending and staying alive until your team can recover. Good positioning, teamwork, and communication are often more important than individual skill.
[2026-07-16 02:09:06] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| New to CTF? Perfect place to learn the ropes:
[2026-07-16 02:09:07] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| New to CTF? Perfect place to learn the ropes:
[2026-07-16 02:09:08] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527195272755675196/image.png?ex=6a59c6ee&is=6a58756e&hm=599102ac1a739d209608ee01b6af0e196ff543857449dbe4eabcddac7744ddd4&
[2026-07-16 02:09:08] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527195272755675196/image.png?ex=6a59c6ee&is=6a58756e&hm=599102ac1a739d209608ee01b6af0e196ff543857449dbe4eabcddac7744ddd4&
[2026-07-16 02:36:22] <Lucifer_arma> we're actually getting armagetron spam in an armagetron channel? Why is that striking me as hilarious?
[2026-07-16 02:36:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we're actually getting armagetron spam in an armagetron channel? Why is that striking me as hilarious?
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[2026-07-16 03:17:11] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| why the IRC bridge got this weird context menu items while other apps got it normal? oO can't even ignore it. XD
[2026-07-16 03:17:11] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| why the IRC bridge got this weird context menu items while other apps got it normal? oO can't even ignore it. XD
[2026-07-16 03:17:11] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527212485449355435/image.png?ex=6a59d6f6&is=6a588576&hm=4fc295ea6009b80012555c64cc803ee919b0f22cd3e8929e9f0e0f939cea127e&
[2026-07-16 03:17:12] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527212485449355435/image.png?ex=6a59d6f6&is=6a588576&hm=4fc295ea6009b80012555c64cc803ee919b0f22cd3e8929e9f0e0f939cea127e&
[2026-07-16 03:17:12] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527212485818716320/image.png?ex=6a59d6f6&is=6a588576&hm=481f82328e98119f7cb64e4432bb5fab400eacbed7c0588b28269ea948692062&
[2026-07-16 03:17:13] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527212485818716320/image.png?ex=6a59d6f6&is=6a588576&hm=481f82328e98119f7cb64e4432bb5fab400eacbed7c0588b28269ea948692062&
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[2026-07-16 09:44:42] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| Is this spam? I'm introducing a server for a dead game mode to people. I can refrain from making posts like this in the future?
[2026-07-16 09:44:42] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| Is this spam? I'm introducing a server for a dead game mode to people. I can refrain from making posts like this in the future?
[2026-07-16 09:57:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:gyal| @dewknukem where long form??
[2026-07-16 09:57:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:gyal| @dewknukem where long form??
[2026-07-16 09:57:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:gyal| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527313178747211867/image.png?ex=6a5a34bd&is=6a58e33d&hm=33d5596cc3a6126455f7cc9eed9008c4d61e51badbd9f055d311d70485fbbffc&
[2026-07-16 09:57:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:gyal| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527313178747211867/image.png?ex=6a5a34bd&is=6a58e33d&hm=33d5596cc3a6126455f7cc9eed9008c4d61e51badbd9f055d311d70485fbbffc&
[2026-07-16 10:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:Noodles| no one should have to listen to bogan aussie commentary
[2026-07-16 10:03:06] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:Noodles| no one should have to listen to bogan aussie commentary
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[2026-07-16 12:12:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Her accent is typical cali lmao
[2026-07-16 12:12:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Her accent is typical cali lmao
[2026-07-16 12:12:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Thats saying a lot from me too
[2026-07-16 12:12:51] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Thats saying a lot from me too
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[2026-07-16 14:58:27] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:girtrude| Lets say you there are only 2 universes in existence
[2026-07-16 14:58:27] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:girtrude| Lets say you there are only 2 universes in existence
[2026-07-16 14:58:27] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:girtrude| Universe A is full of infinitely many people that are in eternal pleasure. They are as happy as can be and never ever feel a moment of sadness. Pure euphoria for eternity
[2026-07-16 14:58:28] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:girtrude| Universe A is full of infinitely many people that are in eternal pleasure. They are as happy as can be and never ever feel a moment of sadness. Pure euphoria for eternity
[2026-07-16 14:58:29] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:girtrude| Universe B is full of infinitely many people experiencing torturous pain for eternity. Zero pleasure, complete, unbearable suffering for eternity.
[2026-07-16 14:58:29] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:girtrude| Universe B is full of infinitely many people experiencing torturous pain for eternity. Zero pleasure, complete, unbearable suffering for eternity.
[2026-07-16 14:58:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:girtrude| Now, once a year, 2 people from each universe are swapped around, and each person can only be swapped once. This will repeat for infinity, since both universes will exist eternally. Neither universe is aware of the other. This means if you choose A and get swapped, you will then be in B for eternity, and if you choose option B and then get swapped, you will be in A for eternity.
[2026-07-16 14:58:31] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:girtrude| Now, once a year, 2 people from each universe are swapped around, and each person can only be swapped once. This will repeat for infinity, since both universes will exist eternally. Neither universe is aware of the other. This means if you choose A and get swapped, you will then be in B for eternity, and if you choose option B and then get swapped, you will be in A for eternity.
[2026-07-16 14:58:31] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:girtrude| Which universe do you choose to become part of?
[2026-07-16 14:58:32] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:girtrude| Which universe do you choose to become part of?
[2026-07-16 15:04:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it doesnt matter
[2026-07-16 15:04:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it doesnt matter
[2026-07-16 15:04:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the terminal experience is the same
[2026-07-16 15:04:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the terminal experience is the same
[2026-07-16 15:04:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| some constant blend of pleasure and torture
[2026-07-16 15:04:56] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| some constant blend of pleasure and torture
[2026-07-16 15:06:53] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| You obviously choose A right. It's the safest choice. 2/infinite chance per year of you getting swapped.
[2026-07-16 15:06:53] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| You obviously choose A right. It's the safest choice. 2/infinite chance per year of you getting swapped.
[2026-07-16 15:11:00] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:sandwar| I found ibo again also not sure if monarki is on here but thanks for being a nice player
[2026-07-16 15:11:00] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:sandwar| I found ibo again also not sure if monarki is on here but thanks for being a nice player
[2026-07-16 15:11:00] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:sandwar| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527392123261948134/Screenshot_2026-07-16_142202.png?ex=6a5a7e43&is=6a592cc3&hm=18026e51d1acc77205bc679824b694e695574f65d637da87c54df52121a6ea8b&
[2026-07-16 15:11:01] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:sandwar| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527392123261948134/Screenshot_2026-07-16_142202.png?ex=6a5a7e43&is=6a592cc3&hm=18026e51d1acc77205bc679824b694e695574f65d637da87c54df52121a6ea8b&
[2026-07-16 15:45:01] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:まち| I'd retweet it in #looking-for-players and/or #newbie-general
[2026-07-16 15:45:01] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:まち| I'd retweet it in #looking-for-players and/or #newbie-general
[2026-07-16 15:45:14] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| as soon as you involve infinity everything becomes meaningless
[2026-07-16 15:45:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| as soon as you involve infinity everything becomes meaningless
[2026-07-16 15:45:37] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| Well, Lucifer called it spam, so I'm a bit reluctant LOL
[2026-07-16 15:45:37] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| Well, Lucifer called it spam, so I'm a bit reluctant LOL
[2026-07-16 15:46:09] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:まち| Isn't Lucifer the same guy that troll baited durf for days on the forums into getting banned because neither one knew when to stop?
[2026-07-16 15:46:09] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:まち| Isn't Lucifer the same guy that troll baited durf for days on the forums into getting banned because neither one knew when to stop?
[2026-07-16 15:46:25] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527401037579948112/image0.gif?ex=6a5a8691&is=6a593511&hm=578580883de2b5b07f26706a6805af9b5ef4be77e47beca329741c01f3970070&
[2026-07-16 15:46:25] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527401037579948112/image0.gif?ex=6a5a8691&is=6a593511&hm=578580883de2b5b07f26706a6805af9b5ef4be77e47beca329741c01f3970070&
[2026-07-16 15:54:50] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @pifor51 @ib0x0
[2026-07-16 15:54:50] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @pifor51 @ib0x0
[2026-07-16 15:55:58] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| yeah iirc from reading that thread durf had a mental breakdown over lucifer banning him from a server for like 1 day, and durf went crazy and was spamming messaging z man and causing war on the forums lol
[2026-07-16 15:55:58] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| yeah iirc from reading that thread durf had a mental breakdown over lucifer banning him from a server for like 1 day, and durf went crazy and was spamming messaging z man and causing war on the forums lol
[2026-07-16 15:56:16] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| then i messaged durf a couple months ago out of curiosity and he was a total douche to me
[2026-07-16 15:56:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| then i messaged durf a couple months ago out of curiosity and he was a total douche to me
[2026-07-16 15:57:27] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:まち| surprised you even got a message back
[2026-07-16 15:57:27] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:まち| surprised you even got a message back
[2026-07-16 15:58:36] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| he had a pretty big youtube channel i found and then i joined his discord server and messaged him if he was coming back to tron and he said “fuck no fuck off” and blocked me 😂
[2026-07-16 15:58:36] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| he had a pretty big youtube channel i found and then i joined his discord server and messaged him if he was coming back to tron and he said “fuck no fuck off” and blocked me 😂
[2026-07-16 16:01:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| well might finally get a chance to play tron this week since i prob can’t go outside
[2026-07-16 16:01:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| well might finally get a chance to play tron this week since i prob can’t go outside
[2026-07-16 16:01:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527404860901953637/IMG_0522.png?ex=6a5a8a20&is=6a5938a0&hm=e1758f7fc39e8a0d1a10067ec9908232daf971fd4fd8bbf86c2c22fdedb9bf3c&
[2026-07-16 16:01:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1527404860901953637/IMG_0522.png?ex=6a5a8a20&is=6a5938a0&hm=e1758f7fc39e8a0d1a10067ec9908232daf971fd4fd8bbf86c2c22fdedb9bf3c&
[2026-07-16 16:02:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We need a channel moratorium on messaging durf. I had an extensive conversation with him and he was *particularly* uncharitable to the community. His messages had the reek of qanon about them and, frankly, he was a little unhinged. Any contact from, or reference to, armagetron/retrocycles is only going to aggravate him. I don't want to see anything untoward happen as a result.
[2026-07-16 16:02:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We need a channel moratorium on messaging durf. I had an extensive conversation with him and he was *particularly* uncharitable to the community. His messages had the reek of qanon about them and, frankly, he was a little unhinged. Any contact from, or reference to, armagetron/retrocycles is only going to aggravate him. I don't want to see anything untoward happen as a result.
[2026-07-16 16:02:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Neither would I care for anyone taking "action" against him. He has left armagetron behind, and is carrying on with his own life. We have the capacity to leave one another in peace, and I expect it to remain that way.
[2026-07-16 16:02:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Neither would I care for anyone taking "action" against him. He has left armagetron behind, and is carrying on with his own life. We have the capacity to leave one another in peace, and I expect it to remain that way.
[2026-07-16 16:03:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| there is a certain infinite nature to content today that is somewhat unsettling
[2026-07-16 16:03:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| there is a certain infinite nature to content today that is somewhat unsettling
[2026-07-16 16:03:08] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| nah we should attack while he’s weak
[2026-07-16 16:03:08] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| nah we should attack while he’s weak
[2026-07-16 16:03:10] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| jo
[2026-07-16 16:03:10] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| jo
[2026-07-16 16:03:31] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| hm?
[2026-07-16 16:03:31] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| hm?
[2026-07-16 16:03:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| please don't even joke about it. I can picture things escalating so very easily. I don't want it to end poorly, so please let's put a pin in it
[2026-07-16 16:03:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| please don't even joke about it. I can picture things escalating so very easily. I don't want it to end poorly, so please let's put a pin in it
[2026-07-16 16:03:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he is forever a part of this game in the way the lore is a part of the game
[2026-07-16 16:03:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he is forever a part of this game in the way the lore is a part of the game
[2026-07-16 16:04:28] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| hey it’s not like i was messaging him to be rude i was just genuinely curious 😂
[2026-07-16 16:04:28] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| hey it’s not like i was messaging him to be rude i was just genuinely curious 😂
[2026-07-16 16:04:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| shown by the way new gens come across it even unprompted
[2026-07-16 16:04:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| shown by the way new gens come across it even unprompted
[2026-07-16 16:05:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, I know, and it sucks that we have to tell people this. Syn's right, he's part of the history of the community, but sometimes history is best left where it is.
[2026-07-16 16:05:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, I know, and it sucks that we have to tell people this. Syn's right, he's part of the history of the community, but sometimes history is best left where it is.
[2026-07-16 16:05:30] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| Are durf and durka the same person
[2026-07-16 16:05:31] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| Are durf and durka the same person
[2026-07-16 16:05:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no
[2026-07-16 16:05:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no
[2026-07-16 16:05:39] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| Oh okay lol
[2026-07-16 16:05:39] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| Oh okay lol
[2026-07-16 16:06:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| some people just need a good punch in the face once in their lives
[2026-07-16 16:06:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| some people just need a good punch in the face once in their lives
[2026-07-16 16:07:21] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| i mean he’s hated by other communities he moved on to
[2026-07-16 16:07:21] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| i mean he’s hated by other communities he moved on to
[2026-07-16 16:07:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Inside me there are two wolves. The "professional" one, and the "yeah fuck I agree" one
[2026-07-16 16:07:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Inside me there are two wolves. The "professional" one, and the "yeah fuck I agree" one
[2026-07-16 16:08:09] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/882008899706839170/1092080242266489003/E6E218E3-C4E4-4275-9C94-22153195B587-1.gif
[2026-07-16 16:08:10] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/882008899706839170/1092080242266489003/E6E218E3-C4E4-4275-9C94-22153195B587-1.gif
[2026-07-16 16:08:41] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| Why are you eating wolves
[2026-07-16 16:08:41] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| Why are you eating wolves
[2026-07-16 16:08:41] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| and his twitter extremely qanon and transphobic so you’d guess right deli
[2026-07-16 16:08:42] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| and his twitter extremely qanon and transphobic so you’d guess right deli
[2026-07-16 16:09:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's twitter, so that's a given probably
[2026-07-16 16:09:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's twitter, so that's a given probably
[2026-07-16 16:10:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| dog eat dog world innit
[2026-07-16 16:10:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| dog eat dog world innit
[2026-07-16 17:18:32] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:frostidragon| inside you are two wolves. one is gay, the other is gay, you are gay
[2026-07-16 17:18:32] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:frostidragon| inside you are two wolves. one is gay, the other is gay, you are gay
[2026-07-16 17:21:51] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:girtrude| the two wolves are having sex
[2026-07-16 17:21:51] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:girtrude| the two wolves are having sex
[2026-07-16 17:22:41] <-- Sauss-Ente has quit ()
[2026-07-16 18:09:32] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| was fun playing witcha! wpadaj częściej 🙂
[2026-07-16 18:09:32] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| was fun playing witcha! wpadaj częściej 🙂
[2026-07-16 18:10:12] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:sandwar| same here i was player one
[2026-07-16 18:10:12] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:sandwar| same here i was player one
[2026-07-16 18:10:56] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| oh wait, you are not Optifine but Player 1 from Trinidad and Tobago! nice! glad to see you on the grid. you're probably the only one from there playing tron, at least on my server ❤️
[2026-07-16 18:10:56] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| oh wait, you are not Optifine but Player 1 from Trinidad and Tobago! nice! glad to see you on the grid. you're probably the only one from there playing tron, at least on my server ❤️
[2026-07-16 18:12:27] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| just checked, it's Caribbean! I wish I was there once, to taste all these good rums and cigars from around 🙂
[2026-07-16 18:12:27] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| just checked, it's Caribbean! I wish I was there once, to taste all these good rums and cigars from around 🙂
[2026-07-16 18:12:41] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:sandwar| yeah i think i am like the only person in my whole counrty that does even play or watch tron lol
[2026-07-16 18:12:41] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:sandwar| yeah i think i am like the only person in my whole counrty that does even play or watch tron lol
[2026-07-16 18:13:08] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| record some short videos for your local mates. they may like it too 🙂 🙂
[2026-07-16 18:13:08] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| record some short videos for your local mates. they may like it too 🙂 🙂
[2026-07-16 18:13:20] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| anyway, gotta go asleep. g'nite
[2026-07-16 18:13:20] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| anyway, gotta go asleep. g'nite
[2026-07-16 18:13:30] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:sandwar| later
[2026-07-16 18:13:30] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:sandwar| later
[2026-07-16 18:17:42] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| California and canada are the same thing 🤦
[2026-07-16 18:17:42] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| California and canada are the same thing 🤦
[2026-07-16 18:17:44] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| Tbh
[2026-07-16 18:17:44] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| Tbh
[2026-07-16 19:09:14] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| took your mom on a trip to both
[2026-07-16 19:09:14] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| took your mom on a trip to both
[2026-07-16 19:09:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| https://klipy.com/gifs/daredevil-daredevil-dog
[2026-07-16 19:09:20] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| https://klipy.com/gifs/daredevil-daredevil-dog
[2026-07-16 19:09:39] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| @lxvixk hfjdkdbvzgjsmjdmuugpm ltexc
[2026-07-16 19:09:39] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| @lxvixk hfjdkdbvzgjsmjdmuugpm ltexc
[2026-07-16 19:10:28] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| Is hard to spell with ur mom riding me srry
[2026-07-16 19:10:28] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| Is hard to spell with ur mom riding me srry
[2026-07-16 19:35:28] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| You just took his joke
[2026-07-16 19:35:28] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| You just took his joke
[2026-07-16 19:35:31] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| 💀
[2026-07-16 19:35:31] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| 💀
[2026-07-16 19:36:03] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:inab| Thank goodness I can find some poutine finally
[2026-07-16 19:36:03] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:inab| Thank goodness I can find some poutine finally
[2026-07-16 19:50:38] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @kwotel mom is this true?
[2026-07-16 19:50:38] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @kwotel mom is this true?
[2026-07-16 19:52:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:kwtee| I'm sorry Son
[2026-07-16 19:52:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:kwtee| I'm sorry Son
[2026-07-16 19:52:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:kwtee| But it is
[2026-07-16 19:52:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:kwtee| But it is
[2026-07-16 21:54:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:kwtee| @lxvixk diffed u and left
[2026-07-16 21:54:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:kwtee| @lxvixk diffed u and left
[2026-07-16 21:54:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:kwtee| aura
[2026-07-16 21:54:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:kwtee| aura
[2026-07-16 21:55:24] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @ku_0000 noodles in df and packed lobby
[2026-07-16 21:55:24] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @ku_0000 noodles in df and packed lobby
[2026-07-16 22:05:51] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @124679812489 @syn_acc df
[2026-07-16 22:05:51] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @124679812489 @syn_acc df
[2026-07-16 22:08:56] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @treescythe forgor to say bye srry
[2026-07-16 22:08:56] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @treescythe forgor to say bye srry
[2026-07-16 22:09:10] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| and @lord_cookie. was laughing
[2026-07-16 22:09:10] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| and @lord_cookie. was laughing
[2026-07-16 22:31:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| AI CORE
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[2026-07-16 22:31:36] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| Gameplay AI Chatbot AI gLATIS
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[2026-07-16 22:31:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| SUMO FORTRESS
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[2026-07-16 22:31:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| Tactical AI Team Strategy AI
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[2026-07-16 22:31:49] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:˚.✦Rx.Luigi✦.˚| Game Engine
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[2026-07-16 22:42:01] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:calzone102| i wish someone woulkd play some submarine with meee
[2026-07-16 22:42:01] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:calzone102| i wish someone woulkd play some submarine with meee
[2026-07-16 22:46:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| hop in dogfight
[2026-07-16 22:46:18] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| hop in dogfight
[2026-07-16 22:46:32] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| ill let you stab me
[2026-07-16 22:46:33] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| ill let you stab me
[2026-07-16 22:52:55] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:xkx| @canyabrrtttlikesgames nice ragequit
[2026-07-16 22:52:55] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:xkx| @canyabrrtttlikesgames nice ragequit
[2026-07-16 23:19:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| You can wrap that kind of diagram with three backticks at the beginning and end for code formatting:
[2026-07-16 23:19:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| You can wrap that kind of diagram with three backticks at the beginning and end for code formatting:
[2026-07-16 23:19:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ```
[2026-07-16 23:19:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ```
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[2026-07-16 23:19:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Gameplay AI Chatbot AI gLATIS
[2026-07-16 23:19:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Gameplay AI Chatbot AI gLATIS
[2026-07-16 23:19:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| \ | /
[2026-07-16 23:19:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| \ | /
[2026-07-16 23:19:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Zone Module
[2026-07-16 23:19:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Zone Module
[2026-07-16 23:19:22] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| |
[2026-07-16 23:19:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| |
[2026-07-16 23:19:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ----------------------------
[2026-07-16 23:19:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ----------------------------
[2026-07-16 23:19:25] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| | |
[2026-07-16 23:19:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| | |
[2026-07-16 23:19:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| SUMO FORTRESS
[2026-07-16 23:19:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| SUMO FORTRESS
[2026-07-16 23:19:27] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| | |
[2026-07-16 23:19:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| | |
[2026-07-16 23:19:29] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Tactical AI Team Strategy AI
[2026-07-16 23:19:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Tactical AI Team Strategy AI
[2026-07-16 23:19:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| |
[2026-07-16 23:19:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| |
[2026-07-16 23:19:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Game Engine
[2026-07-16 23:19:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Game Engine
[2026-07-16 23:19:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ```
[2026-07-16 23:19:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ```
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• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...