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[2026-02-16 00:42:49] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zaxrer_1| armagetron is cool
[2026-02-16 00:42:49] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zaxrer_1| armagetron is cool
[2026-02-16 00:42:54] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zaxrer_1| gg
[2026-02-16 00:42:54] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zaxrer_1| gg
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[2026-02-16 08:00:13] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Lets hope the first fort game of the lunar new year will be good
[2026-02-16 08:00:13] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Lets hope the first fort game of the lunar new year will be good
[2026-02-16 08:14:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| indeed 新年快乐 everyone
[2026-02-16 08:14:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| indeed 新年快乐 everyone
[2026-02-16 08:34:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| X being down makes for a boring work day
[2026-02-16 08:34:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| X being down makes for a boring work day
[2026-02-16 08:42:19] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Do you like start flame wars lmao
[2026-02-16 08:42:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Do you like start flame wars lmao
[2026-02-16 09:00:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Sometimes :Clownmonkey:
[2026-02-16 09:00:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Sometimes :Clownmonkey:
[2026-02-16 09:00:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I like hearing what the people have to say
[2026-02-16 09:00:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I like hearing what the people have to say
[2026-02-16 09:06:53] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| I guess not being able to start a flame war on company time constitutes boredom for you
[2026-02-16 09:06:53] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| I guess not being able to start a flame war on company time constitutes boredom for you
[2026-02-16 09:07:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| And being drunk makes me a bit loopy lmao
[2026-02-16 09:07:07] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| And being drunk makes me a bit loopy lmao
[2026-02-16 09:09:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| well the agents are doing the company time stuff
[2026-02-16 09:09:14] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| well the agents are doing the company time stuff
[2026-02-16 09:09:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im just their meat suit that has to sign in and out
[2026-02-16 09:09:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im just their meat suit that has to sign in and out
[2026-02-16 09:09:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so need to find some way to occupy myself
[2026-02-16 09:09:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so need to find some way to occupy myself
[2026-02-16 09:09:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i feel like other parts of the internet are shit too
[2026-02-16 09:09:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i feel like other parts of the internet are shit too
[2026-02-16 09:09:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Ah
[2026-02-16 09:09:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Ah
[2026-02-16 09:09:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1472958184476901417/image.png?ex=699476b5&is=69932535&hm=96e461b2dfe3e22f44c2eaf1dbdbc276a1eb954e93c70309491fb4109cf65a12&
[2026-02-16 09:09:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1472958184476901417/image.png?ex=699476b5&is=69932535&hm=96e461b2dfe3e22f44c2eaf1dbdbc276a1eb954e93c70309491fb4109cf65a12&
[2026-02-16 09:15:11] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| hey is there interest in bringing armagetronad to game marathon events as a showcase?
[2026-02-16 09:15:11] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| hey is there interest in bringing armagetronad to game marathon events as a showcase?
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[2026-02-16 12:05:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:zzz.elo| server not up?
[2026-02-16 12:05:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:zzz.elo| server not up?
[2026-02-16 12:12:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| New year new fort
[2026-02-16 12:12:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| New year new fort
[2026-02-16 12:13:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Ill be in in a few hours after the formalities are finished
[2026-02-16 12:13:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Ill be in in a few hours after the formalities are finished
[2026-02-16 13:22:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| which server in particular?
[2026-02-16 13:22:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| which server in particular?
[2026-02-16 15:52:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://nmsceefax.co.uk/
[2026-02-16 15:52:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://nmsceefax.co.uk/
[2026-02-16 15:52:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is amazing
[2026-02-16 15:52:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is amazing
[2026-02-16 16:03:03] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ooh i didnt even know it still existed
[2026-02-16 16:03:04] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ooh i didnt even know it still existed
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[2026-02-16 16:38:50] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| am i invisible or something?
[2026-02-16 16:38:51] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| am i invisible or something?
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[2026-02-16 16:52:55] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| oh sorry i didnt know what to say about that so i didnt respond.  um i think it would be a cool idea
[2026-02-16 16:52:55] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| oh sorry i didnt know what to say about that so i didnt respond.  um i think it would be a cool idea
[2026-02-16 16:53:11] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you have any events in mind?
[2026-02-16 16:53:11] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you have any events in mind?
[2026-02-16 16:54:09] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| none in particular, i dont know a lot of them but the significant ones are games done quick, european speedrun association, and many other specialized ones like no glitches allowed
[2026-02-16 16:54:09] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| none in particular, i dont know a lot of them but the significant ones are games done quick, european speedrun association, and many other specialized ones like no glitches allowed
[2026-02-16 16:54:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i do think that the codebase needs to be cleaned up first tho, you cant have players crashing all the time etc
[2026-02-16 16:54:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i do think that the codebase needs to be cleaned up first tho, you cant have players crashing all the time etc
[2026-02-16 16:55:07] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| whats wrong with that? its just for a showcase about the game
[2026-02-16 16:55:07] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| whats wrong with that? its just for a showcase about the game
[2026-02-16 16:55:23] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| it makes it look a bit mickey mouse
[2026-02-16 16:55:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| ah crashing as in the game closing
[2026-02-16 16:55:27] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yes
[2026-02-16 16:55:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| it makes it look a bit mickey mouse
[2026-02-16 16:55:28] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| ah crashing as in the game closing
[2026-02-16 16:55:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yes
[2026-02-16 16:55:31] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| sorry ;p
[2026-02-16 16:55:31] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| sorry ;p
[2026-02-16 16:55:41] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| haha you thought i mean core dumping?
[2026-02-16 16:55:41] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| haha you thought i mean core dumping?
[2026-02-16 16:55:50] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i guess
[2026-02-16 16:55:50] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i guess
[2026-02-16 16:55:54] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i mean in game
[2026-02-16 16:55:55] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i mean in game
[2026-02-16 16:55:56] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| yea i did too tbh
[2026-02-16 16:55:56] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| yea i did too tbh
[2026-02-16 16:56:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| like crashing in to walls
[2026-02-16 16:56:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| like crashing in to walls
[2026-02-16 16:56:07] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| yes
[2026-02-16 16:56:07] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| yes
[2026-02-16 16:56:16] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| hehe ok sorry i should have been less ambiguous
[2026-02-16 16:56:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| hehe ok sorry i should have been less ambiguous
[2026-02-16 16:56:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| so yeah i think its a very good idea but we need to sort out the codebase etc first a bit
[2026-02-16 16:56:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| so yeah i think its a very good idea but we need to sort out the codebase etc first a bit
[2026-02-16 16:57:00] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| why not older versions on older oses?
[2026-02-16 16:57:00] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| why not older versions on older oses?
[2026-02-16 16:57:11] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think @northernscrub and @syn_acc and maybe others are working on things
[2026-02-16 16:57:11] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think @northernscrub and @syn_acc and maybe others are working on things
[2026-02-16 16:57:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i use the old version and it crashes and breaks here and there still
[2026-02-16 16:57:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i use the old version and it crashes and breaks here and there still
[2026-02-16 16:58:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We're putting ducks in a row first. Some elements of other projects still need finishing or bringing into a usable state
[2026-02-16 16:58:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We're putting ducks in a row first. Some elements of other projects still need finishing or bringing into a usable state
[2026-02-16 16:58:32] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| who exactly are the devs for the game
[2026-02-16 16:58:32] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| who exactly are the devs for the game
[2026-02-16 16:58:37] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| im imagining something like spectating a real fort match could be one fo the showcases
[2026-02-16 16:58:37] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| im imagining something like spectating a real fort match could be one fo the showcases
[2026-02-16 16:58:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| 0.5 is just in a feature-suggestion stage atm
[2026-02-16 16:58:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| 0.5 is just in a feature-suggestion stage atm
[2026-02-16 16:58:50] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| like is there a team, or is it a few guys whove been updating for 25 years
[2026-02-16 16:58:50] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| like is there a team, or is it a few guys whove been updating for 25 years
[2026-02-16 16:59:21] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| or showing the various gamemodes and settings in a quick but clear fashion
[2026-02-16 16:59:21] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| or showing the various gamemodes and settings in a quick but clear fashion
[2026-02-16 17:00:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That depends on which fork. Z-Man is primary on trunk (or is it just 0.2.9? I forget), Nelg seems to work mostly on AP, we have a couple of volunteers who will be looking at 0.5, and at various points other devs have been involved in side-projects that have eventually been integrated into trunk
[2026-02-16 17:00:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That depends on which fork. Z-Man is primary on trunk (or is it just 0.2.9? I forget), Nelg seems to work mostly on AP, we have a couple of volunteers who will be looking at 0.5, and at various points other devs have been involved in side-projects that have eventually been integrated into trunk
[2026-02-16 17:00:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| fman23 and loverboy did a huge amount of work
[2026-02-16 17:00:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| fman23 and loverboy did a huge amount of work
[2026-02-16 17:00:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and then there was the ct project decades ago
[2026-02-16 17:00:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and then there was the ct project decades ago
[2026-02-16 17:00:37] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| already thinking of 0.5 without even finishing/fixing/maintaining anything that came before?
[2026-02-16 17:00:37] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| already thinking of 0.5 without even finishing/fixing/maintaining anything that came before?
[2026-02-16 17:00:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also pigsty
[2026-02-16 17:00:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also pigsty
[2026-02-16 17:00:46] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| lets not forget guru3 (aka tank program) and lucifer
[2026-02-16 17:00:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| lets not forget guru3 (aka tank program) and lucifer
[2026-02-16 17:00:52] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| ct?
[2026-02-16 17:00:52] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| ct?
[2026-02-16 17:01:21] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| ap+sty+ct is a set of hacks for the game that add various specific feature sets
[2026-02-16 17:01:21] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| ap+sty+ct is a set of hacks for the game that add various specific feature sets
[2026-02-16 17:01:30] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| oh ok
[2026-02-16 17:01:34] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:pseudosaile| oh ok
[2026-02-16 17:01:59] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| stuff that happened thorought the years and gained a lot of tech debt
[2026-02-16 17:02:00] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| stuff that happened thorought the years and gained a lot of tech debt
[2026-02-16 17:02:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| 0.5 is intended to address a lot of the concerns with stability and other bits and pieces by removing the headend entirely, separating the game into solely an engine and a separate headend that works on shared memory. This allows the problems tha tarise from using increasingly outdated SDL compats to be fixed, which is a primary concern, but also lets us start looking at SSL inte <clipped message>
[2026-02-16 17:02:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| gration and other things that are necessary to bring trin into the modern era
[2026-02-16 17:02:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| 0.5 is intended to address a lot of the concerns with stability and other bits and pieces by removing the headend entirely, separating the game into solely an engine and a separate headend that works on shared memory. This allows the problems tha tarise from using increasingly outdated SDL compats to be fixed, which is a primary concern, but also lets us start looking at SSL inte <clipped message>
[2026-02-16 17:02:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| gration and other things that are necessary to bring trin into the modern era
[2026-02-16 17:02:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| i.e. resolving technical debt yes
[2026-02-16 17:02:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| i.e. resolving technical debt yes
[2026-02-16 17:02:52] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i havent really had any problems playing the game on windows 7 lol
[2026-02-16 17:02:52] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i havent really had any problems playing the game on windows 7 lol
[2026-02-16 17:03:05] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| neither in the years before
[2026-02-16 17:03:09] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| neither in the years before
[2026-02-16 17:03:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| with the separate frontend idea, anyone can theoretically build a UI for tron using a lib that we could distribute. And we can get away from SDL1.2-compat
[2026-02-16 17:03:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| with the separate frontend idea, anyone can theoretically build a UI for tron using a lib that we could distribute. And we can get away from SDL1.2-compat
[2026-02-16 17:03:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You're still on Win7? Phew
[2026-02-16 17:03:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You're still on Win7? Phew
[2026-02-16 17:03:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| At least consider a move to linux or BSD
[2026-02-16 17:03:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| At least consider a move to linux or BSD
[2026-02-16 17:03:31] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| grandfathered computer
[2026-02-16 17:03:32] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| grandfathered computer
[2026-02-16 17:03:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya mine was too, but still
[2026-02-16 17:03:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya mine was too, but still
[2026-02-16 17:03:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you still get security updates for win 7??
[2026-02-16 17:03:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you still get security updates for win 7??
[2026-02-16 17:03:50] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| no space, too much software to deal with, and bugs
[2026-02-16 17:03:50] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| no space, too much software to deal with, and bugs
[2026-02-16 17:04:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m not even a linux desktop guy but windows 7…
[2026-02-16 17:04:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m not even a linux desktop guy but windows 7…
[2026-02-16 17:04:09] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i main windows for the "ecosystem"
[2026-02-16 17:04:09] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i main windows for the "ecosystem"
[2026-02-16 17:04:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| updates ended in 2021 for the enterprise version
[2026-02-16 17:04:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| updates ended in 2021 for the enterprise version
[2026-02-16 17:04:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| does windows 7 even get access to the ecosystem xd
[2026-02-16 17:04:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| does windows 7 even get access to the ecosystem xd
[2026-02-16 17:04:39] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| that includes the base esu though
[2026-02-16 17:04:39] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| that includes the base esu though
[2026-02-16 17:04:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we used to use windows7 vms for pentesting labs
[2026-02-16 17:04:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we used to use windows7 vms for pentesting labs
[2026-02-16 17:04:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Put any modern 'nix on htere and use wine 10. Wine 10 was a huge update in compatibility
[2026-02-16 17:04:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Put any modern 'nix on htere and use wine 10. Wine 10 was a huge update in compatibility
[2026-02-16 17:04:50] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| esu itself extended some years longer
[2026-02-16 17:04:50] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| esu itself extended some years longer
[2026-02-16 17:05:02] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| especially for windows server
[2026-02-16 17:05:02] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| especially for windows server
[2026-02-16 17:05:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ? no it didn't? It was literally enterprise-only
[2026-02-16 17:05:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ? no it didn't? It was literally enterprise-only
[2026-02-16 17:05:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| oh ok
[2026-02-16 17:05:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| oh ok
[2026-02-16 17:05:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and I know that because I specifically paid for it with my business whilst I was busy migrating software
[2026-02-16 17:05:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and I know that because I specifically paid for it with my business whilst I was busy migrating software
[2026-02-16 17:05:27] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i have enterprise and without bypassesu i got up to 2020-01
[2026-02-16 17:05:28] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i have enterprise and without bypassesu i got up to 2020-01
[2026-02-16 17:05:46] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i thought u were a linux user juesto?
[2026-02-16 17:05:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i thought u were a linux user juesto?
[2026-02-16 17:05:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| no?
[2026-02-16 17:05:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| no?
[2026-02-16 17:05:53] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| multios user
[2026-02-16 17:05:53] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| multios user
[2026-02-16 17:06:14] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| what OSs do you use primarily?
[2026-02-16 17:06:14] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| what OSs do you use primarily?
[2026-02-16 17:06:23] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i have like 6 installs of linux on a 465gb ssd mini  pc
[2026-02-16 17:06:23] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i have like 6 installs of linux on a 465gb ssd mini  pc
[2026-02-16 17:06:51] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| half of them broken because i updated it without booting it directly
[2026-02-16 17:06:51] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| half of them broken because i updated it without booting it directly
[2026-02-16 17:07:11] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| windows, some linux and apple
[2026-02-16 17:07:11] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| windows, some linux and apple
[2026-02-16 17:07:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| are you up to date with macos?
[2026-02-16 17:07:26] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| are you up to date with macos?
[2026-02-16 17:07:36] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| not the late 2014 mac mini
[2026-02-16 17:07:36] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| not the late 2014 mac mini
[2026-02-16 17:08:11] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think using win 7 connected to the internet is asking for trouble tbh.
[2026-02-16 17:08:11] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think using win 7 connected to the internet is asking for trouble tbh.
[2026-02-16 17:08:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| unless you've hacked it ur self
[2026-02-16 17:08:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| unless you've hacked it ur self
[2026-02-16 17:08:37] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| which im guessing u havent?
[2026-02-16 17:08:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| which im guessing u havent?
[2026-02-16 17:08:41] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| the 1tb hdd is still on 10.12.6 and its slow as heck, kinda low on storage.
[2026-02-16 17:08:41] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| the 1tb hdd is still on 10.12.6 and its slow as heck, kinda low on storage.
[2026-02-16 17:09:17] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i got a external 1tb ssd connected with 10.13-12 installed in separate apfs volumes
[2026-02-16 17:09:17] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i got a external 1tb ssd connected with 10.13-12 installed in separate apfs volumes
[2026-02-16 17:09:27] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| with 100gb allocated for each
[2026-02-16 17:09:33] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| with 100gb allocated for each
[2026-02-16 17:10:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| well im not sure why ur using win7 then
[2026-02-16 17:10:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| well im not sure why ur using win7 then
[2026-02-16 17:10:35] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| it works fine, grandfathered all hdd system
[2026-02-16 17:10:35] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| it works fine, grandfathered all hdd system
[2026-02-16 17:10:44] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| software will break on upgrade
[2026-02-16 17:10:44] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| software will break on upgrade
[2026-02-16 17:11:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if you dont mind me asking, what software?
[2026-02-16 17:11:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if you dont mind me asking, what software?
[2026-02-16 17:11:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| stuff like visual studio mainly, and other possibly legacy software that has problems on 10
[2026-02-16 17:11:24] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| stuff like visual studio mainly, and other possibly legacy software that has problems on 10
[2026-02-16 17:11:31] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| and later
[2026-02-16 17:11:31] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| and later
[2026-02-16 17:11:55] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| u really need old versions of visual studio?
[2026-02-16 17:11:55] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| u really need old versions of visual studio?
[2026-02-16 17:12:05] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| useful for legacy projects
[2026-02-16 17:12:05] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| useful for legacy projects
[2026-02-16 17:12:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| also, have you tried reactos recently?
[2026-02-16 17:12:07] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| also, have you tried reactos recently?
[2026-02-16 17:12:26] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| yes, on a vm, i can hardly assist the project unfortunately
[2026-02-16 17:12:26] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| yes, on a vm, i can hardly assist the project unfortunately
[2026-02-16 17:12:27] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i have reactos on my laptop
[2026-02-16 17:12:27] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i have reactos on my laptop
[2026-02-16 17:12:38] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| its far from being complete
[2026-02-16 17:12:38] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| its far from being complete
[2026-02-16 17:12:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| 0 chance you're getting visual studio working properly on reactos
[2026-02-16 17:12:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| 0 chance you're getting visual studio working properly on reactos
[2026-02-16 17:13:02] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| probably deli is right, i havent tried it myself as i dont use it
[2026-02-16 17:13:02] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| probably deli is right, i havent tried it myself as i dont use it
[2026-02-16 17:13:13] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| however reactos is coming along fast now
[2026-02-16 17:13:13] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| however reactos is coming along fast now
[2026-02-16 17:13:21] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| no its not
[2026-02-16 17:13:21] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| no its not
[2026-02-16 17:13:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| its lacking devs af
[2026-02-16 17:13:25] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| its lacking devs af
[2026-02-16 17:13:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it wasnt that long ago reactos did a major release milestone
[2026-02-16 17:13:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it wasnt that long ago reactos did a major release milestone
[2026-02-16 17:13:58] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i keep an eye on it regularly. its not where windows or macos or linux or BSD are buj
[2026-02-16 17:13:59] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i keep an eye on it regularly. its not where windows or macos or linux or BSD are buj
[2026-02-16 17:14:12] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but its really moving faster than it ever has
[2026-02-16 17:14:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but its really moving faster than it ever has
[2026-02-16 17:14:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and its sharing code with wine
[2026-02-16 17:14:22] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and its sharing code with wine
[2026-02-16 17:14:55] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| still
[2026-02-16 17:14:55] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| still
[2026-02-16 17:15:09] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but the issue remains, youi're using win7
[2026-02-16 17:15:09] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but the issue remains, youi're using win7
[2026-02-16 17:15:16] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| not really an issue lol
[2026-02-16 17:15:16] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| not really an issue lol
[2026-02-16 17:15:28] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| is that machine connected to the internet
[2026-02-16 17:15:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| is that machine connected to the internet
[2026-02-16 17:15:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ?
[2026-02-16 17:15:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ?
[2026-02-16 17:15:34] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| cant do anything about it, tried 10 at the end of an hdd, it went slower than 7
[2026-02-16 17:15:35] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| cant do anything about it, tried 10 at the end of an hdd, it went slower than 7
[2026-02-16 17:16:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ive upgraded my gf's laptop from win 10 to win 11 and win 11 is faster! i know its hard to believe
[2026-02-16 17:16:06] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ive upgraded my gf's laptop from win 10 to win 11 and win 11 is faster! i know its hard to believe
[2026-02-16 17:16:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i dont have any issues, people love to provide shocking information
[2026-02-16 17:16:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i dont have any issues, people love to provide shocking information
[2026-02-16 17:16:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| *downgraded
[2026-02-16 17:16:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| *downgraded
[2026-02-16 17:17:12] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| juesto if ur connecting that win7 machine to the interenet then you are really risking things
[2026-02-16 17:17:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| juesto if ur connecting that win7 machine to the interenet then you are really risking things
[2026-02-16 17:17:28] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| at least cut it off from the internet
[2026-02-16 17:17:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| at least cut it off from the internet
[2026-02-16 17:17:56] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im still struggling to understand what u need win 7 for. Wine does a lot nowadays
[2026-02-16 17:17:56] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im still struggling to understand what u need win 7 for. Wine does a lot nowadays
[2026-02-16 17:18:12] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| you know linux to some extent at the very least
[2026-02-16 17:18:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| you know linux to some extent at the very least
[2026-02-16 17:18:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| get an SSD and clone the HDD to the SSD no?
[2026-02-16 17:18:38] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| get an SSD and clone the HDD to the SSD no?
[2026-02-16 17:18:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| you can get cloning machines for next to nothing off ebay
[2026-02-16 17:18:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| you can get cloning machines for next to nothing off ebay
[2026-02-16 17:18:57] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| its on cgnat and windows firewall
[2026-02-16 17:18:57] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| its on cgnat and windows firewall
[2026-02-16 17:19:16] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i dont like ssds for its life issues compared to hdds
[2026-02-16 17:19:16] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i dont like ssds for its life issues compared to hdds
[2026-02-16 17:20:29] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| it hasnt really suffered hacking, usually that happens on user error/bait
[2026-02-16 17:20:29] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| it hasnt really suffered hacking, usually that happens on user error/bait
[2026-02-16 17:20:44] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| using supermium
[2026-02-16 17:20:44] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| using supermium
[2026-02-16 17:20:48] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @northernscrub what is ur view on SSDs vs HDDs for reliability?
[2026-02-16 17:20:48] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @northernscrub what is ur view on SSDs vs HDDs for reliability?
[2026-02-16 17:21:32] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| also juesto, yes user error is even worse but dont think that win 7 is unhackable without it
[2026-02-16 17:21:32] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| also juesto, yes user error is even worse but dont think that win 7 is unhackable without it
[2026-02-16 17:22:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| im not saying its unhackable or safe either, it hasnt had issues since the eol
[2026-02-16 17:22:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| im not saying its unhackable or safe either, it hasnt had issues since the eol
[2026-02-16 17:22:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if you get hacked you wont know about it
[2026-02-16 17:22:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if you get hacked you wont know about it
[2026-02-16 17:22:36] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| pfft
[2026-02-16 17:22:36] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| pfft
[2026-02-16 17:22:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| it depends on what they want to do
[2026-02-16 17:22:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| it depends on what they want to do
[2026-02-16 17:23:05] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| im a nobody
[2026-02-16 17:23:07] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| im a nobody
[2026-02-16 17:23:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you do anything like internet banking on win 7?
[2026-02-16 17:23:24] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you do anything like internet banking on win 7?
[2026-02-16 17:23:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you network ur win 7 machine to any other comps there?
[2026-02-16 17:23:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you network ur win 7 machine to any other comps there?
[2026-02-16 17:23:54] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| stop with the mindset instilled by the media
[2026-02-16 17:23:55] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| stop with the mindset instilled by the media
[2026-02-16 17:24:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Used to be kinda bad, but nowadays write cycles are fa better. trim and distribution span the entire drive, and seek isn't an issue cause it's all solid state. cache keeps the read/write rate reasonable. An SSD should last a fair bit, assuming good nandflash. i.e., don't buy shitty cheap storage off aliexpress and you'll be reet
[2026-02-16 17:24:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Used to be kinda bad, but nowadays write cycles are fa better. trim and distribution span the entire drive, and seek isn't an issue cause it's all solid state. cache keeps the read/write rate reasonable. An SSD should last a fair bit, assuming good nandflash. i.e., don't buy shitty cheap storage off aliexpress and you'll be reet
[2026-02-16 17:24:02] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| fear mongering
[2026-02-16 17:24:02] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| fear mongering
[2026-02-16 17:24:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @juesto brother, stick wireshark in between a win7 vm and the internet and just look at the level of oof
[2026-02-16 17:24:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @juesto brother, stick wireshark in between a win7 vm and the internet and just look at the level of oof
[2026-02-16 17:24:31] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| cuz "mom its eol it shouldnt be actively around anymore"
[2026-02-16 17:24:31] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| cuz "mom its eol it shouldnt be actively around anymore"
[2026-02-16 17:24:45] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| ceip and diagtrack disabled
[2026-02-16 17:24:45] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| ceip and diagtrack disabled
[2026-02-16 17:24:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| .............
[2026-02-16 17:24:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| .............
[2026-02-16 17:24:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's something completely separate
[2026-02-16 17:24:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's something completely separate
[2026-02-16 17:25:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| can we move on?
[2026-02-16 17:25:25] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| can we move on?
[2026-02-16 17:25:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| as for SSDs, my main SSD is many years old and is working fine, just go with a decent brand etc
[2026-02-16 17:25:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| as for SSDs, my main SSD is many years old and is working fine, just go with a decent brand etc
[2026-02-16 17:25:56] <Lucifer_arma> I read an article recently about someone who installed WinXP and connected to the internet
[2026-02-16 17:25:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I read an article recently about someone who installed WinXP and connected to the internet
[2026-02-16 17:26:03] <Lucifer_arma> it was a fun read :)
[2026-02-16 17:26:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it was a fun read :)
[2026-02-16 17:26:07] <Lucifer_arma> (It's exactly what you expect)
[2026-02-16 17:26:07] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| (It's exactly what you expect)
[2026-02-16 17:26:08] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| dad never learns, i got cheap dramless ssds
[2026-02-16 17:26:08] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| dad never learns, i got cheap dramless ssds
[2026-02-16 17:26:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| the environment matters
[2026-02-16 17:26:25] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| the environment matters
[2026-02-16 17:26:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| what happened to that machine lucifer?
[2026-02-16 17:26:26] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| what happened to that machine lucifer?
[2026-02-16 17:26:44] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| behind a router is mostly fine
[2026-02-16 17:26:44] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| behind a router is mostly fine
[2026-02-16 17:26:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| tell juesto 😛
[2026-02-16 17:26:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| tell juesto 😛
[2026-02-16 17:26:52] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| there are measures
[2026-02-16 17:26:52] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| there are measures
[2026-02-16 17:27:04] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| routers are so not as good as you thi
[2026-02-16 17:27:04] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| routers are so not as good as you thi
[2026-02-16 17:27:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| think
[2026-02-16 17:27:06] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| think
[2026-02-16 17:27:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok juesto use win7
[2026-02-16 17:27:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok juesto use win7
[2026-02-16 17:27:19] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| subjective, in practice they do wonders for the casual user
[2026-02-16 17:27:19] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| subjective, in practice they do wonders for the casual user
[2026-02-16 17:27:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lol a consumer router lmao
[2026-02-16 17:27:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lol a consumer router lmao
[2026-02-16 17:27:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| id  like to see this
[2026-02-16 17:27:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| id  like to see this
[2026-02-16 17:27:58] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| again the primary entry point for hacking is user error or phishing
[2026-02-16 17:27:58] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| again the primary entry point for hacking is user error or phishing
[2026-02-16 17:28:16] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| anyways enough
[2026-02-16 17:28:16] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| anyways enough
[2026-02-16 17:28:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Juesto, part of my job is being a literal sysadmin. Trust me when I tell you, *you are wrong*
[2026-02-16 17:28:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Juesto, part of my job is being a literal sysadmin. Trust me when I tell you, *you are wrong*
[2026-02-16 17:28:51] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i used to do freelance tech support specialized in software and some sysadmin
[2026-02-16 17:28:51] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i used to do freelance tech support specialized in software and some sysadmin
[2026-02-16 17:29:02] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| we all did juesto
[2026-02-16 17:29:07] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| we all did juesto
[2026-02-16 17:29:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| on windows7 machines?
[2026-02-16 17:29:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| on windows7 machines?
[2026-02-16 17:29:17] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| nice try discrediting my knowledge
[2026-02-16 17:29:17] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| nice try discrediting my knowledge
[2026-02-16 17:29:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| credentialism is lame i agree
[2026-02-16 17:29:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| credentialism is lame i agree
[2026-02-16 17:29:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but you dont need credentials to reason this
[2026-02-16 17:29:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but you dont need credentials to reason this
[2026-02-16 17:29:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it is used as practice for red teams for a reason
[2026-02-16 17:29:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it is used as practice for red teams for a reason
[2026-02-16 17:29:52] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| what part do you not understand its a grandfathered system?
[2026-02-16 17:29:52] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| what part do you not understand its a grandfathered system?
[2026-02-16 17:30:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i aint even in this tbh i just wanna see the wireshark
[2026-02-16 17:30:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i aint even in this tbh i just wanna see the wireshark
[2026-02-16 17:30:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok lets stop talking about win 7 we're going round in circles
[2026-02-16 17:30:24] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok lets stop talking about win 7 we're going round in circles
[2026-02-16 17:30:49] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but really, get a good SSD or 2 and clone the HDDs
[2026-02-16 17:30:49] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but really, get a good SSD or 2 and clone the HDDs
[2026-02-16 17:31:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| we did that in my last job
[2026-02-16 17:31:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| we did that in my last job
[2026-02-16 17:31:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and had no issues ever
[2026-02-16 17:31:07] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and had no issues ever
[2026-02-16 17:31:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| so, is armagetronad in a playable state for marathons/events?
[2026-02-16 17:31:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| so, is armagetronad in a playable state for marathons/events?
[2026-02-16 17:31:16] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was there for almost 5 years
[2026-02-16 17:31:16] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was there for almost 5 years
[2026-02-16 17:31:34] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| the hdds are 8tb
[2026-02-16 17:31:34] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| the hdds are 8tb
[2026-02-16 17:31:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| oh
[2026-02-16 17:31:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| oh
[2026-02-16 17:31:41] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| data wont fit
[2026-02-16 17:31:41] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| data wont fit
[2026-02-16 17:31:56] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i mean 4tb each 8tb total
[2026-02-16 17:31:56] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i mean 4tb each 8tb total
[2026-02-16 17:32:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ssd as boot drive, hdd as secondary drive
[2026-02-16 17:32:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ssd as boot drive, hdd as secondary drive
[2026-02-16 17:32:05] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i have like 10tb worth of data across systems
[2026-02-16 17:32:05] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i have like 10tb worth of data across systems
[2026-02-16 17:32:13] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| too late, system drive is data drive
[2026-02-16 17:32:13] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| too late, system drive is data drive
[2026-02-16 17:32:44] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| errata: 12tb
[2026-02-16 17:32:45] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| errata: 12tb
[2026-02-16 17:32:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you have a win 7 install CD/DVD?
[2026-02-16 17:32:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| do you have a win 7 install CD/DVD?
[2026-02-16 17:32:57] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| why?
[2026-02-16 17:32:57] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| why?
[2026-02-16 17:33:27] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| to install win 7 on a SSD
[2026-02-16 17:33:27] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| to install win 7 on a SSD
[2026-02-16 17:33:28] <Lucifer_arma> that machine got rooted within seconds
[2026-02-16 17:33:29] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that machine got rooted within seconds
[2026-02-16 17:33:45] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| again, thats because of the internet environment it was in
[2026-02-16 17:33:45] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| again, thats because of the internet environment it was in
[2026-02-16 17:33:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| thanks lucifer, that's what i expected
[2026-02-16 17:33:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| thanks lucifer, that's what i expected
[2026-02-16 17:33:48] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| it varies by country
[2026-02-16 17:33:48] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| it varies by country
[2026-02-16 17:33:52] <Lucifer_arma> the writer ended up yanking the hard drive and installing it in another computer so he could look at the damage
[2026-02-16 17:33:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the writer ended up yanking the hard drive and installing it in another computer so he could look at the damage
[2026-02-16 17:34:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i have a computer where the nic is compromised
[2026-02-16 17:34:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i have a computer where the nic is compromised
[2026-02-16 17:34:40] <Lucifer_arma> I'm curious what would happen if someone connected a RedHat 7.0 computer to the internet
[2026-02-16 17:34:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm curious what would happen if someone connected a RedHat 7.0 computer to the internet
[2026-02-16 17:34:44] <Lucifer_arma> would it fare any better?
[2026-02-16 17:34:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| would it fare any better?
[2026-02-16 17:34:47] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| it seems to persistently infect fresh vanilla installations
[2026-02-16 17:34:47] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| it seems to persistently infect fresh vanilla installations
[2026-02-16 17:34:55] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| when its connected online
[2026-02-16 17:34:55] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| when its connected online
[2026-02-16 17:35:09] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| it comes through a smb attack
[2026-02-16 17:35:09] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| it comes through a smb attack
[2026-02-16 17:35:34] <Lucifer_arma> better yet, Win98.  Is it possible that Win98 is so old now that all the old viruses and worms and shit aren't even around anymore to attack it?
[2026-02-16 17:35:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| better yet, Win98.  Is it possible that Win98 is so old now that all the old viruses and worms and shit aren't even around anymore to attack it?
[2026-02-16 17:35:36] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| even if its behind firewall and no port forwarding
[2026-02-16 17:35:36] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| even if its behind firewall and no port forwarding
[2026-02-16 17:36:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| doubtful, tbh
[2026-02-16 17:36:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| doubtful, tbh
[2026-02-16 17:36:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| possibly lucifer idk
[2026-02-16 17:36:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| possibly lucifer idk
[2026-02-16 17:36:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| win98 is most certainly vulnerable
[2026-02-16 17:36:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| win98 is most certainly vulnerable
[2026-02-16 17:36:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its so cheap and easy to do fingerprint scanning
[2026-02-16 17:36:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its so cheap and easy to do fingerprint scanning
[2026-02-16 17:36:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| rly no reason not to
[2026-02-16 17:36:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| rly no reason not to
[2026-02-16 17:37:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| doesnt wild goose use win98?
[2026-02-16 17:37:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| doesnt wild goose use win98?
[2026-02-16 17:37:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do ppl still use shodan?
[2026-02-16 17:37:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do ppl still use shodan?
[2026-02-16 17:37:09] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @wwnelg
[2026-02-16 17:37:09] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @wwnelg
[2026-02-16 17:37:14] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| you guys could actually try this stuff yourself
[2026-02-16 17:37:14] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| you guys could actually try this stuff yourself
[2026-02-16 17:37:25] <Lucifer_arma> oh sure it's vulnerable, but it's also extinct, so why would any of the stuff that attacks win98 still even be around?
[2026-02-16 17:37:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| oh sure it's vulnerable, but it's also extinct, so why would any of the stuff that attacks win98 still even be around?
[2026-02-16 17:37:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| because the number of systems is definitely not 0
[2026-02-16 17:37:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| because the number of systems is definitely not 0
[2026-02-16 17:37:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's an account on fedi that does a roaming "shodan safari", it's kidna fun
[2026-02-16 17:37:53] <Lucifer_arma> it'd be like a virus that only attacked non-avian dinosaurs still existing now.
[2026-02-16 17:37:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's an account on fedi that does a roaming "shodan safari", it's kidna fun
[2026-02-16 17:37:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it'd be like a virus that only attacked non-avian dinosaurs still existing now.
[2026-02-16 17:38:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| except software is built to last in a way biology isnt
[2026-02-16 17:38:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| except software is built to last in a way biology isnt
[2026-02-16 17:38:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| there's a surprising amount of cross-compatibility between winxp attacks and win98 attacks. And even newer ones too tbh
[2026-02-16 17:38:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| there's a surprising amount of cross-compatibility between winxp attacks and win98 attacks. And even newer ones too tbh
[2026-02-16 17:38:39] <Lucifer_arma> really?  Even with the kernels being completely different?
[2026-02-16 17:38:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| really?  Even with the kernels being completely different?
[2026-02-16 17:38:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The kernels might be different, but a lot of the old libs will be the same or similar
[2026-02-16 17:38:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The kernels might be different, but a lot of the old libs will be the same or similar
[2026-02-16 17:39:07] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| also hi lucifer_arma, long while of not being around
[2026-02-16 17:39:07] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| also hi lucifer_arma, long while of not being around
[2026-02-16 17:39:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| like the c++ runtimes from like, 2003
[2026-02-16 17:39:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| like the c++ runtimes from like, 2003
[2026-02-16 17:39:10] <Lucifer_arma> ignoring all the attacks that require a user.  I just want to know what would happen if it's simply connected and left running
[2026-02-16 17:39:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ignoring all the attacks that require a user.  I just want to know what would happen if it's simply connected and left running
[2026-02-16 17:39:26] <Lucifer_arma> ?  I've been here pretty regularly, just quiet.  :)
[2026-02-16 17:39:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ?  I've been here pretty regularly, just quiet.  :)
[2026-02-16 17:39:27] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| be scientific, dont just make random guesses and assumptions
[2026-02-16 17:39:27] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| be scientific, dont just make random guesses and assumptions
[2026-02-16 17:39:36] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| thats what i meant :)
[2026-02-16 17:39:37] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| thats what i meant :)
[2026-02-16 17:39:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this chat
[2026-02-16 17:39:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this chat
[2026-02-16 17:39:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| a win98 machine? prolly not a lot, it's lacking a lot of capability. You could probably enroll it in a ddos botnet to some degree, but otherwise idk
[2026-02-16 17:39:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| a win98 machine? prolly not a lot, it's lacking a lot of capability. You could probably enroll it in a ddos botnet to some degree, but otherwise idk
[2026-02-16 17:39:45] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| what have you been up to lucifer_arma?
[2026-02-16 17:39:45] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| what have you been up to lucifer_arma?
[2026-02-16 17:39:45] <Lucifer_arma> we are being scientific, we're hypothesizing :)
[2026-02-16 17:39:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we are being scientific, we're hypothesizing :)
[2026-02-16 17:39:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its literally for random guesses and assumptions
[2026-02-16 17:39:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its literally for random guesses and assumptions
[2026-02-16 17:39:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if i was gonna do any science its certainly not here
[2026-02-16 17:39:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if i was gonna do any science its certainly not here
[2026-02-16 17:40:03] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| bruh
[2026-02-16 17:40:03] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| bruh
[2026-02-16 17:40:15] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| science is mostly theory anyway nelg 😉
[2026-02-16 17:40:15] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| science is mostly theory anyway nelg 😉
[2026-02-16 17:40:34] <Lucifer_arma> juesto: Working on an animation program.  I'm kinda stuck right now figuring out what to do with my file parser
[2026-02-16 17:40:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| juesto: Working on an animation program.  I'm kinda stuck right now figuring out what to do with my file parser
[2026-02-16 17:41:03] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| that's interesting, good luck figuring it out
[2026-02-16 17:41:03] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| that's interesting, good luck figuring it out
[2026-02-16 17:41:25] <Lucifer_arma> I've written a block parser for ini files so that I can change the config options programmatically without clobbering the comments and formatting in the file
[2026-02-16 17:41:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've written a block parser for ini files so that I can change the config options programmatically without clobbering the comments and formatting in the file
[2026-02-16 17:41:44] <Lucifer_arma> right now it reads fine, and I'm trying to hammer out the interface
[2026-02-16 17:41:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| right now it reads fine, and I'm trying to hammer out the interface
[2026-02-16 17:42:46] <Lucifer_arma> by "reads", I mean it reads the file into the block parser and reconstructs the original file, so once I get it to change/add config options, it'll output the modified file correctly
[2026-02-16 17:42:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| by "reads", I mean it reads the file into the block parser and reconstructs the original file, so once I get it to change/add config options, it'll output the modified file correctly
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[2026-02-16 18:31:37] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| cool
[2026-02-16 18:31:37] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| cool
[2026-02-16 18:32:03] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| sounds like a bit of redundant work tho
[2026-02-16 18:32:03] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| sounds like a bit of redundant work tho
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[2026-02-16 19:32:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:zzz.elo| idk it was 2v2v2v2 fighting for a zone
[2026-02-16 19:32:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:zzz.elo| idk it was 2v2v2v2 fighting for a zone
[2026-02-16 20:13:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's tst
[2026-02-16 20:13:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's tst
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[2026-02-16 21:04:53] <Lucifer_arma_> holy crap, sourceforge is still around
[2026-02-16 21:04:54] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| holy crap, sourceforge is still around
[2026-02-16 21:19:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:zzz.elo| what does tst stand for
[2026-02-16 21:19:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:zzz.elo| what does tst stand for
[2026-02-16 21:36:52] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Team sumo tournament
[2026-02-16 21:36:52] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Team sumo tournament
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[2026-02-16 22:30:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:!╭˚.✦ Rx.Luigi ✦.˚╮!| Anyone got a room open outta Illinois kinda need to get outa state ill possibly be able to get half my money im post to get when my gnaw passes nothing left for me here anymore
[2026-02-16 22:30:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:!╭˚.✦ Rx.Luigi ✦.˚╮!| Anyone got a room open outta Illinois kinda need to get outa state ill possibly be able to get half my money im post to get when my gnaw passes nothing left for me here anymore
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