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[2026-01-04 01:11:34] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| !add pbtm
[2026-01-04 01:11:34] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| !add pbtm
[2026-01-04 01:13:34] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| ! add
[2026-01-04 01:13:35] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| ! add
[2026-01-04 01:13:36] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| !add
[2026-01-04 01:13:36] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| !add
[2026-01-04 01:13:38] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| damn
[2026-01-04 01:13:38] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:poweredbythemoon| damn
[2026-01-04 02:17:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| gotta do this in #pickup channel
[2026-01-04 02:17:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| gotta do this in #pickup channel
[2026-01-04 02:25:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:kawaii2347| lookin forward to tryin to learn this game
[2026-01-04 02:25:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:kawaii2347| lookin forward to tryin to learn this game
[2026-01-04 03:13:51] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| you can also find recordings of tournaments on forums.armagetronad.net under competitions in specific threads and use nelgs browser to playback
[2026-01-04 03:13:51] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| you can also find recordings of tournaments on forums.armagetronad.net under competitions in specific threads and use nelgs browser to playback
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[2026-01-04 11:05:28] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| This is nice to see 🥳
[2026-01-04 11:05:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| This is nice to see 🥳
[2026-01-04 11:05:29] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1457404577317126195/Screenshot_2026-01-04-11-04-59-03_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=695be148&is=695a8fc8&hm=7a183ab11405e6d0d78013ba705c10a8b52efc8c2f257580638de4f2653faff0&
[2026-01-04 11:05:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1457404577317126195/Screenshot_2026-01-04-11-04-59-03_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=695be148&is=695a8fc8&hm=7a183ab11405e6d0d78013ba705c10a8b52efc8c2f257580638de4f2653faff0&
[2026-01-04 11:16:23] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| uh oh
[2026-01-04 11:16:23] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| uh oh
[2026-01-04 11:16:25] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| another Taco
[2026-01-04 11:16:25] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| another Taco
[2026-01-04 11:16:34] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| Oh no.
[2026-01-04 11:16:34] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| Oh no.
[2026-01-04 11:16:49] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| that's not me LOL!
[2026-01-04 11:16:50] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| that's not me LOL!
[2026-01-04 11:32:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know tron is coming back when u have to fight for ur name
[2026-01-04 11:32:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know tron is coming back when u have to fight for ur name
[2026-01-04 11:32:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its a status game
[2026-01-04 11:32:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its a status game
[2026-01-04 11:36:38] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| What, synchronize acknowledge?
[2026-01-04 11:36:38] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| What, synchronize acknowledge?
[2026-01-04 11:37:06] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| TCP reference?
[2026-01-04 11:37:06] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| TCP reference?
[2026-01-04 11:41:00] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Oh it's in reference to taco, nevermind
[2026-01-04 11:41:00] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Oh it's in reference to taco, nevermind
[2026-01-04 11:45:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no but i like how you think @girlyguppy
[2026-01-04 11:45:13] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no but i like how you think @girlyguppy
[2026-01-04 11:45:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| my name has a couple interpretations and syn/ack is one of them yea
[2026-01-04 11:45:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| my name has a couple interpretations and syn/ack is one of them yea
[2026-01-04 11:55:21] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| What would the others be? Lol
[2026-01-04 11:55:21] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| What would the others be? Lol
[2026-01-04 11:58:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| accelerationism
[2026-01-04 11:58:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| accelerationism
[2026-01-04 11:58:43] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| Did you guys have rewrites in rust yet :>
[2026-01-04 11:58:43] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| Did you guys have rewrites in rust yet :>
[2026-01-04 11:58:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and syncretism
[2026-01-04 11:58:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and syncretism
[2026-01-04 11:58:49] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| both of which i write about a lot in other places
[2026-01-04 11:58:49] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| both of which i write about a lot in other places
[2026-01-04 11:59:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but synthetic acceleration too ive used before
[2026-01-04 11:59:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but synthetic acceleration too ive used before
[2026-01-04 11:59:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its versatile!
[2026-01-04 11:59:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its versatile!
[2026-01-04 12:00:11] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Oh that explains the bio
[2026-01-04 12:00:12] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Oh that explains the bio
[2026-01-04 12:00:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ye
[2026-01-04 12:00:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ye
[2026-01-04 12:00:48] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| I can't claim to know what they mean but based on the vibe of the word I think I get accelerationism
[2026-01-04 12:00:48] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| I can't claim to know what they mean but based on the vibe of the word I think I get accelerationism
[2026-01-04 12:00:48] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| But I'm not sure about syncrenism
[2026-01-04 12:00:48] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| But I'm not sure about syncrenism
[2026-01-04 12:01:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| basically the way belief systems merge and change
[2026-01-04 12:01:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| basically the way belief systems merge and change
[2026-01-04 12:01:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| mostly in religious or theology discourse
[2026-01-04 12:01:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| mostly in religious or theology discourse
[2026-01-04 12:03:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We have no rust devs here afaik. The current rewrite project is in C++. 
[2026-01-04 12:03:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We have no rust devs here afaik. The current rewrite project is in C++. 
[2026-01-04 12:03:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I attempted to learn rust by jumping in to a project with a GUI. This was a terrible idea. Although I did get the application to spit out a website into the terminal
[2026-01-04 12:03:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I attempted to learn rust by jumping in to a project with a GUI. This was a terrible idea. Although I did get the application to spit out a website into the terminal
[2026-01-04 12:03:53] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| Most curious, I'm not one either, but this would have been a perfect target
[2026-01-04 12:03:53] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| Most curious, I'm not one either, but this would have been a perfect target
[2026-01-04 12:04:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| maybe, maybe not. The vast majority of this codebase is twenty years old, so realistically it needs updating first
[2026-01-04 12:04:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| maybe, maybe not. The vast majority of this codebase is twenty years old, so realistically it needs updating first
[2026-01-04 12:04:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also we really need to add proper ssl to the auth function
[2026-01-04 12:04:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also we really need to add proper ssl to the auth function
[2026-01-04 12:05:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and update the hashing function to use something more modern than *MD%*
[2026-01-04 12:05:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and update the hashing function to use something more modern than *MD%*
[2026-01-04 12:06:03] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| ssl? I assume tls. Do you send passwords over tcp or something?
[2026-01-04 12:06:03] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| ssl? I assume tls. Do you send passwords over tcp or something?
[2026-01-04 12:07:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the game converts to md5 and sends over plaintext, which is really not suitable for today's internet
[2026-01-04 12:07:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the game converts to md5 and sends over plaintext, which is really not suitable for today's internet
[2026-01-04 12:07:55] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| wow
[2026-01-04 12:07:56] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| wow
[2026-01-04 12:08:12] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| "Store password on disk is unsafe"
[2026-01-04 12:08:12] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| "Store password on disk is unsafe"
[2026-01-04 12:08:13] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| My encrypted drive: :BaroDev:
[2026-01-04 12:08:14] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| My encrypted drive: :BaroDev:
[2026-01-04 12:08:36] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| As an exercise, I would like to try to intercept some
[2026-01-04 12:08:36] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| As an exercise, I would like to try to intercept some
[2026-01-04 12:08:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| yup. legacy stuff from two decades ago. Back then there wasn't an ssl lib that was small enough or efficient enough to meet requirements, and eventually I reckon ti jsut got forgotten about
[2026-01-04 12:08:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yup. legacy stuff from two decades ago. Back then there wasn't an ssl lib that was small enough or efficient enough to meet requirements, and eventually I reckon ti jsut got forgotten about
[2026-01-04 12:09:10] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| There isn't much to it. You just open wireshark and see it
[2026-01-04 12:09:10] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| There isn't much to it. You just open wireshark and see it
[2026-01-04 12:09:56] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Oh really ok
[2026-01-04 12:09:56] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Oh really ok
[2026-01-04 12:09:56] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| But like, isn't that mostly for local network stuff? Or is it because I'd be connected to the server so I could see server traffic too? I'm kinda new to networking
[2026-01-04 12:09:56] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| But like, isn't that mostly for local network stuff? Or is it because I'd be connected to the server so I could see server traffic too? I'm kinda new to networking
[2026-01-04 12:10:07] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| I think the most sane solution would be to link against openssl. You probably don't want to roll your own
[2026-01-04 12:10:07] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| I think the most sane solution would be to link against openssl. You probably don't want to roll your own
[2026-01-04 12:10:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's for whatever you're trying to intercept. All you need to do is place your wireshark machin in between the source and target
[2026-01-04 12:10:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's for whatever you're trying to intercept. All you need to do is place your wireshark machin in between the source and target
[2026-01-04 12:10:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| or just run wireshark on your local machine, capture local traffic, and then run tron
[2026-01-04 12:10:43] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or just run wireshark on your local machine, capture local traffic, and then run tron
[2026-01-04 12:11:06] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| You see everything you have access to on local interfaces
[2026-01-04 12:11:06] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| You see everything you have access to on local interfaces
[2026-01-04 12:11:33] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Right.. so that would let me see my own, but how would I put my machine in between another player and the server? Or am I misunderstanding
[2026-01-04 12:11:33] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Right.. so that would let me see my own, but how would I put my machine in between another player and the server? Or am I misunderstanding
[2026-01-04 12:12:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We don't, but openssl is a bit overkill. I'd probably look at something like libsodium, assuming its still around. Openssl is the whole kitchen, let alone the sink
[2026-01-04 12:12:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We don't, but openssl is a bit overkill. I'd probably look at something like libsodium, assuming its still around. Openssl is the whole kitchen, let alone the sink
[2026-01-04 12:12:07] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| Which is everything that goes both towards you and the server, basically everything that goes through no matter the direction
[2026-01-04 12:12:07] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| Which is everything that goes both towards you and the server, basically everything that goes through no matter the direction
[2026-01-04 12:12:37] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| Do you not link dynamically?
[2026-01-04 12:12:37] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| Do you not link dynamically?
[2026-01-04 12:12:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Run a server and get people to log in to it. But in practise, I would not suggest attempting to capture other user's logins even as a demonstration
[2026-01-04 12:12:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Run a server and get people to log in to it. But in practise, I would not suggest attempting to capture other user's logins even as a demonstration
[2026-01-04 12:13:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Good question, and I don't think so? I'm not a C++ dev, though, so I can't say for sure
[2026-01-04 12:13:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Good question, and I don't think so? I'm not a C++ dev, though, so I can't say for sure
[2026-01-04 12:13:23] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| I'll just test it on myself
[2026-01-04 12:13:23] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| I'll just test it on myself
[2026-01-04 12:13:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| someone in #armagetron-dev is better qualified to tell you
[2026-01-04 12:13:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| someone in #armagetron-dev is better qualified to tell you
[2026-01-04 12:13:28] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Thanks for the info
[2026-01-04 12:13:28] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| Thanks for the info
[2026-01-04 12:13:48] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| And I'll use a password that I don't use anywhere else 😂
[2026-01-04 12:13:48] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:girlyguppy| And I'll use a password that I don't use anywhere else 😂
[2026-01-04 12:14:06] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| I now remembered that you distribute an appimage
[2026-01-04 12:14:06] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| I now remembered that you distribute an appimage
[2026-01-04 12:14:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ugh don't remind me
[2026-01-04 12:14:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ugh don't remind me
[2026-01-04 12:15:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| appimages, snaps, flatpaks, none of these should exist.
[2026-01-04 12:15:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| appimages, snaps, flatpaks, none of these should exist.
[2026-01-04 12:16:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| only reason they do is because the structure of 'nixes leads to dependency problems.
[2026-01-04 12:16:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| only reason they do is because the structure of 'nixes leads to dependency problems.
[2026-01-04 12:16:21] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| the reason is actually glibc
[2026-01-04 12:16:21] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| the reason is actually glibc
[2026-01-04 12:16:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I actually started writing a spec for modenr linux, that includes a restructured approach to deps
[2026-01-04 12:16:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I actually started writing a spec for modenr linux, that includes a restructured approach to deps
[2026-01-04 12:16:44] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| It can't link statically, therefore you need to containerize so libs
[2026-01-04 12:16:44] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| It can't link statically, therefore you need to containerize so libs
[2026-01-04 12:18:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, yes, but if you could just add your dependent libs to a target system without borking it, we'd have no need for an entire contianer
[2026-01-04 12:18:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, yes, but if you could just add your dependent libs to a target system without borking it, we'd have no need for an entire contianer
[2026-01-04 12:19:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| "oh hey this needs lib v3.1.4" "I got lib v3.1.9 installed tho" "no problem, I can have both"
[2026-01-04 12:19:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| "oh hey this needs lib v3.1.4" "I got lib v3.1.9 installed tho" "no problem, I can have both"
[2026-01-04 12:19:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| aight gotta go do some actual work before the day is gone and I achieve nothing again
[2026-01-04 12:19:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| aight gotta go do some actual work before the day is gone and I achieve nothing again
[2026-01-04 12:19:49] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| That sounds like a flatpack
[2026-01-04 12:19:49] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| That sounds like a flatpack
[2026-01-04 12:20:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| whats your background @iilinray ? you keep talking like this imma drag you into the rebuild efforts
[2026-01-04 12:20:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| whats your background @iilinray ? you keep talking like this imma drag you into the rebuild efforts
[2026-01-04 12:21:11] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| I'm NEET linux C++ semi-experienced dev with nothing to show for it
[2026-01-04 12:21:11] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| I'm NEET linux C++ semi-experienced dev with nothing to show for it
[2026-01-04 12:21:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| fair
[2026-01-04 12:21:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| fair
[2026-01-04 12:21:52] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| But hey, I daily drive gentoo, so I'm basically a god xd
[2026-01-04 12:21:52] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| But hey, I daily drive gentoo, so I'm basically a god xd
[2026-01-04 12:21:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not many pure c++ background ppl around
[2026-01-04 12:21:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not many pure c++ background ppl around
[2026-01-04 12:22:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| daily driving linux is my idea of hell
[2026-01-04 12:22:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| daily driving linux is my idea of hell
[2026-01-04 12:22:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but to each their own
[2026-01-04 12:22:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but to each their own
[2026-01-04 12:23:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oi, I daily debian
[2026-01-04 12:23:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oi, I daily debian
[2026-01-04 12:23:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| gentoo, though, that's something else
[2026-01-04 12:23:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| gentoo, though, that's something else
[2026-01-04 12:23:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, you interested?
[2026-01-04 12:23:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, you interested?
[2026-01-04 12:23:50] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| I can try cook up a crypto related patch for you guys. I'm unfamiliar with the codebase and everything. I've never even logged in the game
[2026-01-04 12:23:50] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| I can try cook up a crypto related patch for you guys. I'm unfamiliar with the codebase and everything. I've never even logged in the game
[2026-01-04 12:24:35] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| I am very semi-familiar with tls, certificates and stuff
[2026-01-04 12:24:35] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| I am very semi-familiar with tls, certificates and stuff
[2026-01-04 12:24:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We're yet to make a proper start, but we're looking at extracting and separating the gui from the core engine first. That makes everything else a bit easier.
[2026-01-04 12:24:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We're yet to make a proper start, but we're looking at extracting and separating the gui from the core engine first. That makes everything else a bit easier.
[2026-01-04 12:25:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| adding ssl is the next step after, then we need to rebuild the gui as a separate graphical frontend in SDL3, since we're currently running on two layers of compat
[2026-01-04 12:25:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| adding ssl is the next step after, then we need to rebuild the gui as a separate graphical frontend in SDL3, since we're currently running on two layers of compat
[2026-01-04 13:04:40] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| part of the decision to avoid additional dependencies at the time was to keep the game installer small enough to fit on a single floppy diskette
[2026-01-04 13:04:40] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| part of the decision to avoid additional dependencies at the time was to keep the game installer small enough to fit on a single floppy diskette
[2026-01-04 13:06:46] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| and while openssl would be pretty trivial to link against on linux as a system library, doing so for windows is a bit more complex as we then need to compile and distribute that dll along with the binary
[2026-01-04 13:06:46] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| and while openssl would be pretty trivial to link against on linux as a system library, doing so for windows is a bit more complex as we then need to compile and distribute that dll along with the binary
[2026-01-04 13:07:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Chloe Box| in fort sometimes there are no zones, are we just on a bad map?
[2026-01-04 13:07:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Chloe Box| in fort sometimes there are no zones, are we just on a bad map?
[2026-01-04 13:07:56] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| Hey all! Pizza and I have decided to try and partner up on a somewhat official Ladle Team! The idea I have marinating in my head is an "Open Team" concept but with more organization than simply throwing people together last second. So, there may be a few rotating spots as we bring some structure and momentum to it.
[2026-01-04 13:07:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| Hey all! Pizza and I have decided to try and partner up on a somewhat official Ladle Team! The idea I have marinating in my head is an "Open Team" concept but with more organization than simply throwing people together last second. So, there may be a few rotating spots as we bring some structure and momentum to it.
[2026-01-04 13:07:56] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| So, with that being said- Anyone not married to a team right now but who would like to be a part of a fun experiment and like to see a new team built again, please feel free to join our server! Post anything you want in the " #flow-with-us " channel and we'll get together! (Currently have 2 spots available for next Sunday!) 
[2026-01-04 13:07:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| So, with that being said- Anyone not married to a team right now but who would like to be a part of a fun experiment and like to see a new team built again, please feel free to join our server! Post anything you want in the " #flow-with-us " channel and we'll get together! (Currently have 2 spots available for next Sunday!) 
[2026-01-04 13:07:58] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| Anyone else who would like to join the Server to support the objective, always welcome. 
[2026-01-04 13:07:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| Anyone else who would like to join the Server to support the objective, always welcome. 
[2026-01-04 13:07:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| PS: Anyone is welcome to request playing with us! However, if you're TOO green to really compete in a ladle, we'll likely take you under our wing and help get you up to speed ❤️ 
[2026-01-04 13:07:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| PS: Anyone is welcome to request playing with us! However, if you're TOO green to really compete in a ladle, we'll likely take you under our wing and help get you up to speed ❤️ 
[2026-01-04 13:08:00] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:tovan1s| https://discord.gg/eE7TG5WA
[2026-01-04 13:08:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:tovan1s| https://discord.gg/eE7TG5WA
[2026-01-04 13:35:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is why I was thinking libsodium. It's nowhere near as large as openssl, and the only consideration for compilation is a single cflag on aarch64. There's a prebuilt for MinGW too
[2026-01-04 13:35:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is why I was thinking libsodium. It's nowhere near as large as openssl, and the only consideration for compilation is a single cflag on aarch64. There's a prebuilt for MinGW too
[2026-01-04 13:37:26] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| I don't think shipping a tls engine is a good idea ever. You probably should make use of a system's default one, which updates automatically
[2026-01-04 13:37:26] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| I don't think shipping a tls engine is a good idea ever. You probably should make use of a system's default one, which updates automatically
[2026-01-04 13:38:27] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:iilinray| to be fair, I don't how much security matter for a game like this one
[2026-01-04 13:38:27] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:iilinray| to be fair, I don't how much security matter for a game like this one
[2026-01-04 13:39:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| we're not doing a great deal of secure communications, so I'd probably argue that here we're better served by ensuring compatibility and keeping a close eye on issue trackers. we responded very quickly to the xzlib thing, for example - although the only involvement there was.. packaging for macos I think? I forget
[2026-01-04 13:39:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| we're not doing a great deal of secure communications, so I'd probably argue that here we're better served by ensuring compatibility and keeping a close eye on issue trackers. we responded very quickly to the xzlib thing, for example - although the only involvement there was.. packaging for macos I think? I forget
[2026-01-04 13:45:50] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| Do we still build on Windows with gcc/minGW/etc?
[2026-01-04 13:45:51] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| Do we still build on Windows with gcc/minGW/etc?
[2026-01-04 13:47:14] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| I'm sure it's possible to link to whatever Windows uses for SSL if we used MSVC, but doing that with gcc & friends feels like a bit of a cludge. As well as introducing some horrible platform dependencies and backwards compatibility problems.
[2026-01-04 13:47:14] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| I'm sure it's possible to link to whatever Windows uses for SSL if we used MSVC, but doing that with gcc & friends feels like a bit of a cludge. As well as introducing some horrible platform dependencies and backwards compatibility problems.
[2026-01-04 13:47:46] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| Still, patches welcome!
[2026-01-04 13:47:47] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| Still, patches welcome!
[2026-01-04 14:24:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| What is the Ladel? Game mode?
[2026-01-04 14:24:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| What is the Ladel? Game mode?
[2026-01-04 14:31:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:lava| @anjo3060 lol chelsea with the steal
[2026-01-04 14:31:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:lava| @anjo3060 lol chelsea with the steal
[2026-01-04 14:40:29] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:gold_shadowfree_| let's make a DOS version
[2026-01-04 14:40:29] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:gold_shadowfree_| let's make a DOS version
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[2026-01-04 15:34:32] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| is autoaccel racing down?
[2026-01-04 15:34:32] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| is autoaccel racing down?
[2026-01-04 15:34:38] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| can't seem to find it
[2026-01-04 15:34:38] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| can't seem to find it
[2026-01-04 15:53:58] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:francis1snotstraight| WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[2026-01-04 15:53:58] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:francis1snotstraight| WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[2026-01-04 15:54:02] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:francis1snotstraight| pls be wrong
[2026-01-04 15:54:03] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:francis1snotstraight| pls be wrong
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[2026-01-04 18:02:01] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:trig_| Yo does anyone know how to use !add
[2026-01-04 18:02:01] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:trig_| Yo does anyone know how to use !add
[2026-01-04 18:26:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| Are there Fortress teams where people specialize in specific roles or do most people just play pick up typically?
[2026-01-04 18:26:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| Are there Fortress teams where people specialize in specific roles or do most people just play pick up typically?
[2026-01-04 18:27:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| I guess you’d need at least 2 teams to play
[2026-01-04 18:27:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| I guess you’d need at least 2 teams to play
[2026-01-04 18:31:10] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| pickup has a captain system, where they are responsible for assigning positions. we have a #ladle tournament where people play on established teams and players usually have common roles.
[2026-01-04 18:31:10] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| pickup has a captain system, where they are responsible for assigning positions. we have a #ladle tournament where people play on established teams and players usually have common roles.
[2026-01-04 18:31:10] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| for public fort (M-Fortress) you can join and `/shuffle` to any position you want
[2026-01-04 18:31:11] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| for public fort (M-Fortress) you can join and `/shuffle` to any position you want
[2026-01-04 18:31:29] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:risakom_n| found the game by your video. Thanks a lot!!!!!!!
[2026-01-04 18:31:30] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:risakom_n| found the game by your video. Thanks a lot!!!!!!!
[2026-01-04 18:31:37] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:risakom_n| It's really fun
[2026-01-04 18:31:37] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:risakom_n| It's really fun
[2026-01-04 18:32:17] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:trig_| does anyone know how to play the server?
[2026-01-04 18:32:17] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:trig_| does anyone know how to play the server?
[2026-01-04 18:32:23] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:trig_| cause !add doesnt work for me
[2026-01-04 18:32:23] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:trig_| cause !add doesnt work for me
[2026-01-04 18:33:06] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:trig_| !add fort
[2026-01-04 18:33:06] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:trig_| !add fort
[2026-01-04 18:35:38] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:trig_| !help
[2026-01-04 18:35:38] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:trig_| !help
[2026-01-04 18:35:39] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:39] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:40] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ​No Category:
[2026-01-04 18:35:40] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ​No Category:
[2026-01-04 18:35:41] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   help   Shows this message
[2026-01-04 18:35:42] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   help   Shows this message
[2026-01-04 18:35:43] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   remove Command to remove a user's team.
[2026-01-04 18:35:43] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   remove Command to remove a user's team.
[2026-01-04 18:35:44] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| Type !help command for more info on a command.
[2026-01-04 18:35:44] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| Type !help command for more info on a command.
[2026-01-04 18:35:45] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| You can also type !help category for more info on a category.
[2026-01-04 18:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| You can also type !help category for more info on a category.
[2026-01-04 18:35:47] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:47] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:48] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:48] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:49] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ​No Category:
[2026-01-04 18:35:49] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ​No Category:
[2026-01-04 18:35:51] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   help   Shows this message
[2026-01-04 18:35:51] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   help   Shows this message
[2026-01-04 18:35:52] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   remove Command to remove a user's team.
[2026-01-04 18:35:52] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy|   remove Command to remove a user's team.
[2026-01-04 18:35:53] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| Type !help command for more info on a command.
[2026-01-04 18:35:53] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| Type !help command for more info on a command.
[2026-01-04 18:35:54] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| You can also type !help category for more info on a category.
[2026-01-04 18:35:55] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| You can also type !help category for more info on a category.
[2026-01-04 18:35:56] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:56] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| ```
[2026-01-04 18:35:57] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:trig_| !help add
[2026-01-04 18:35:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:trig_| !help add
[2026-01-04 18:35:58] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| No command called "add" found.
[2026-01-04 18:35:59] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| No command called "add" found.
[2026-01-04 18:36:00] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| No command called "add" found.
[2026-01-04 18:36:00] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:SuperLadleBoy| No command called "add" found.
[2026-01-04 18:36:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| Type add in #pickup I think
[2026-01-04 18:36:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:the_roundabout| Type add in #pickup I think
[2026-01-04 19:01:26] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zaxrer_1| armagetron in the big 26
[2026-01-04 19:01:26] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zaxrer_1| armagetron in the big 26
[2026-01-04 19:13:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:bigcat518| hello
[2026-01-04 19:13:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:bigcat518| hello
[2026-01-04 22:18:08] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:cu1r| New to this game, small question.
[2026-01-04 22:18:08] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:cu1r| New to this game, small question.
[2026-01-04 22:18:09] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:cu1r| Been really interested in all the different settings and systems and I've seen footage of people with all cycles highlighted white, but as far as I can tell, this isn't possible with the color system. Is this accomplished with a moviepack or some other means?
[2026-01-04 22:18:09] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:cu1r| Been really interested in all the different settings and systems and I've seen footage of people with all cycles highlighted white, but as far as I can tell, this isn't possible with the color system. Is this accomplished with a moviepack or some other means?
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