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[2025-11-21 03:16:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| @zman_0 can't wait to see your show tomorrow!
[2025-11-21 03:16:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| @zman_0 can't wait to see your show tomorrow!
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[2025-11-21 07:20:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you're hosting at home, you'll need to forward port 4534 to your machine from your router. This can be a bit hard to figure out on your own, so here's a handy dandy guide: https://portforward.com/
[2025-11-21 07:20:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you're hosting at home, you'll need to forward port 4534 to your machine from your router. This can be a bit hard to figure out on your own, so here's a handy dandy guide: https://portforward.com/
[2025-11-21 07:20:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Use the search box on that site to find your router, the vast majority are included.
[2025-11-21 07:20:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Use the search box on that site to find your router, the vast majority are included.
[2025-11-21 07:20:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Note: **DO NOT USE THEIR SOFTWARE, IT OPENS UP VULNERABILITIES IN ISP SUPPLIED ROUTERS. JUST FOLLOW THE MANUAL INSTRUCTIONS.**
[2025-11-21 07:20:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Note: **DO NOT USE THEIR SOFTWARE, IT OPENS UP VULNERABILITIES IN ISP SUPPLIED ROUTERS. JUST FOLLOW THE MANUAL INSTRUCTIONS.**
[2025-11-21 07:20:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You'll probably also need to allow Armagetron/Retrocycles in your firewall. If you're on  Windows 11 (my sympathies), you can get there by selecting `Firewall and network protection` in the Windows Security window. Also, [this link](windowsdefender://network/) might work? 
[2025-11-21 07:20:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You'll probably also need to allow Armagetron/Retrocycles in your firewall. If you're on  Windows 11 (my sympathies), you can get there by selecting `Firewall and network protection` in the Windows Security window. Also, [this link](windowsdefender://network/) might work? 
[2025-11-21 07:20:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then, select "allow an app through firewall" and find the retrocycles executable. It should be in `%appdata%/steam/steamapps/retrocycles` or similar.
[2025-11-21 07:20:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then, select "allow an app through firewall" and find the retrocycles executable. It should be in `%appdata%/steam/steamapps/retrocycles` or similar.
[2025-11-21 07:21:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then give your friend your IP address and job done. I would, however, suggest you either get a VPS of your own, or ask your parents to get one for you if you're still a youngin. It's a little more secure than opening up a lil hole in your own network, and you can learn a lot with a VPS. It's best to use a linux based one in this scenario.
[2025-11-21 07:21:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then give your friend your IP address and job done. I would, however, suggest you either get a VPS of your own, or ask your parents to get one for you if you're still a youngin. It's a little more secure than opening up a lil hole in your own network, and you can learn a lot with a VPS. It's best to use a linux based one in this scenario.
[2025-11-21 07:24:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| lmfao
[2025-11-21 07:24:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| lmfao
[2025-11-21 07:24:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| we really need to make self hosting easier
[2025-11-21 07:24:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| we really need to make self hosting easier
[2025-11-21 07:24:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for sure
[2025-11-21 07:24:38] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| for sure
[2025-11-21 07:24:47] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| we had it good when players had managed services
[2025-11-21 07:24:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we had it good when players had managed services
[2025-11-21 07:24:49] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:apathyismyderision| Definitely lol
[2025-11-21 07:24:49] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:apathyismyderision| Definitely lol
[2025-11-21 07:24:51] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| like dukes ftp ui
[2025-11-21 07:24:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| like dukes ftp ui
[2025-11-21 07:25:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| dukevin that is
[2025-11-21 07:25:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| dukevin that is
[2025-11-21 07:25:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's not actually *hard*, just very involved is all. Especially if you've never gotten into that sort of thing
[2025-11-21 07:25:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's not actually *hard*, just very involved is all. Especially if you've never gotten into that sort of thing
[2025-11-21 07:25:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| whats the word I want
[2025-11-21 07:25:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| whats the word I want
[2025-11-21 07:25:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| and the being on a windows desktop thing
[2025-11-21 07:25:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and the being on a windows desktop thing
[2025-11-21 07:25:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| not imposing
[2025-11-21 07:25:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| not imposing
[2025-11-21 07:25:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it is incredibly simple on a vps
[2025-11-21 07:25:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it is incredibly simple on a vps
[2025-11-21 07:25:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| especially if you opt into docker
[2025-11-21 07:25:55] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| especially if you opt into docker
[2025-11-21 07:26:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Docker *can* be easy, but when it goes wrong it's SO much harder to figure out whats happening
[2025-11-21 07:26:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Docker *can* be easy, but when it goes wrong it's SO much harder to figure out whats happening
[2025-11-21 07:26:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| in my experience tron servers dont really go wrong in unexpected ways
[2025-11-21 07:26:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| in my experience tron servers dont really go wrong in unexpected ways
[2025-11-21 07:26:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's kinda why I like the screen approach. Just make a folder for a server innit
[2025-11-21 07:26:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's kinda why I like the screen approach. Just make a folder for a server innit
[2025-11-21 07:26:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but yeah there are other issues for sure
[2025-11-21 07:26:55] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but yeah there are other issues for sure
[2025-11-21 07:26:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| hah! I've hosted tons, tust me there's so much little icky stuff that can make a machin fall over
[2025-11-21 07:26:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| hah! I've hosted tons, tust me there's so much little icky stuff that can make a machin fall over
[2025-11-21 07:27:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| im a creature of convenience
[2025-11-21 07:27:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| im a creature of convenience
[2025-11-21 07:28:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly? I find the screen approach more convenient. I have a base folder with empty logs and an empty config, I just `cp base <servername>` and then copy my config. Then all I gotta do is `. boot.sh <servername>`
[2025-11-21 07:28:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly? I find the screen approach more convenient. I have a base folder with empty logs and an empty config, I just `cp base <servername>` and then copy my config. Then all I gotta do is `. boot.sh <servername>`
[2025-11-21 07:28:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| docker is much more involved, shit like internal networking etc etc
[2025-11-21 07:28:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| docker is much more involved, shit like internal networking etc etc
[2025-11-21 07:28:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| can't be fucked
[2025-11-21 07:28:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| can't be fucked
[2025-11-21 07:30:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| huh
[2025-11-21 07:30:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| huh
[2025-11-21 07:30:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its just docker start
[2025-11-21 07:30:51] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| its just docker start
[2025-11-21 07:31:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i dont do any internal config
[2025-11-21 07:31:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i dont do any internal config
[2025-11-21 07:31:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and that other thing off the other week when you were trying to push a new config and it wouldn't pull it
[2025-11-21 07:31:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and that other thing off the other week when you were trying to push a new config and it wouldn't pull it
[2025-11-21 07:31:28] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah thats fair
[2025-11-21 07:31:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah thats fair
[2025-11-21 07:31:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| did you ever find out why?
[2025-11-21 07:31:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| did you ever find out why?
[2025-11-21 07:31:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the whole cleanup thing
[2025-11-21 07:31:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the whole cleanup thing
[2025-11-21 07:31:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| uhhh no tbh i i dont think i did
[2025-11-21 07:31:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| uhhh no tbh i i dont think i did
[2025-11-21 07:31:56] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i think i was just misremembering the command
[2025-11-21 07:31:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i think i was just misremembering the command
[2025-11-21 07:32:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| to force recreate the container
[2025-11-21 07:32:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| to force recreate the container
[2025-11-21 07:32:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh. All scripted here
[2025-11-21 07:32:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh. All scripted here
[2025-11-21 07:32:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but tbh usually its just a restart
[2025-11-21 07:32:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but tbh usually its just a restart
[2025-11-21 13:25:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Pro tip for all you young lot when you get your first house, assuming you ever do: Don't fucking tile on a wall that doesn't have a piss coat on it. You might get a decade our of it, but it WILL crackle off, the tiles WILL come away, and it WILL rip half the fucking plaster off the wall.
[2025-11-21 13:25:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Pro tip for all you young lot when you get your first house, assuming you ever do: Don't fucking tile on a wall that doesn't have a piss coat on it. You might get a decade our of it, but it WILL crackle off, the tiles WILL come away, and it WILL rip half the fucking plaster off the wall.
[2025-11-21 13:25:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ask me how the fuck I know, and what I've been fixing all afternoon.
[2025-11-21 13:25:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ask me how the fuck I know, and what I've been fixing all afternoon.
[2025-11-21 13:28:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the young lot are never getting a house
[2025-11-21 13:28:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the young lot are never getting a house
[2025-11-21 13:36:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| you say that, but some of the older gen z lot are buying up old places on teh cheap and doing them up. And I know fo at least one who has a mortgage so
[2025-11-21 13:36:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you say that, but some of the older gen z lot are buying up old places on teh cheap and doing them up. And I know fo at least one who has a mortgage so
[2025-11-21 13:36:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I can't wait for the housing crunch tbh, land gonna be so cheap
[2025-11-21 13:36:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I can't wait for the housing crunch tbh, land gonna be so cheap
[2025-11-21 13:36:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| must be nice
[2025-11-21 13:36:28] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| must be nice
[2025-11-21 13:36:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i am the older gen z lot and honestly cant relate
[2025-11-21 13:36:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i am the older gen z lot and honestly cant relate
[2025-11-21 13:37:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i make very good money and still the only mortgages i could get would massively decrease my living standards
[2025-11-21 13:37:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i make very good money and still the only mortgages i could get would massively decrease my living standards
[2025-11-21 13:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Yeah I wouldn't mortgage either. If I were to buy a house, it would be upfront for cash. I plan to build tho so
[2025-11-21 13:37:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Yeah I wouldn't mortgage either. If I were to buy a house, it would be upfront for cash. I plan to build tho so
[2025-11-21 13:38:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also you lot are fucking up our housing market up here lmao. Cost of a house has fkin tripled up in the north over hte last decade
[2025-11-21 13:38:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also you lot are fucking up our housing market up here lmao. Cost of a house has fkin tripled up in the north over hte last decade
[2025-11-21 13:40:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| let me just accrue half a million in cash
[2025-11-21 13:40:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| let me just accrue half a million in cash
[2025-11-21 13:41:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ew what
[2025-11-21 13:41:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ew what
[2025-11-21 13:41:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| is that really a two up two down where you are
[2025-11-21 13:41:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| is that really a two up two down where you are
[2025-11-21 13:48:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 🤣
[2025-11-21 13:48:04] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| 🤣
[2025-11-21 13:48:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no brother
[2025-11-21 13:48:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no brother
[2025-11-21 13:48:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| a 2 up 2 down where i am is not possible
[2025-11-21 13:48:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a 2 up 2 down where i am is not possible
[2025-11-21 13:48:27] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| that is a 2 bedroom flat
[2025-11-21 13:48:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| that is a 2 bedroom flat
[2025-11-21 13:48:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| W H A T
[2025-11-21 13:48:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| W H A T
[2025-11-21 13:48:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| T H E
[2025-11-21 13:48:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| T H E
[2025-11-21 13:48:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| F U C K
[2025-11-21 13:48:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| F U C K
[2025-11-21 13:49:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| half a mil for a flat
[2025-11-21 13:49:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| half a mil for a flat
[2025-11-21 13:49:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| jfc
[2025-11-21 13:49:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| jfc
[2025-11-21 14:21:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah and the 3 bed flats are closer to 750-800
[2025-11-21 14:21:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah and the 3 bed flats are closer to 750-800
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[2025-11-21 18:13:59] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| may i ask what a "piss coat" is? 😆
[2025-11-21 18:13:59] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| may i ask what a "piss coat" is? 😆
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