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[2025-09-20 01:30:28] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:krystal_76070| you too lol
[2025-09-20 01:30:28] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:krystal_76070| you too lol
[2025-09-20 01:31:53] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:krystal_76070| :3
[2025-09-20 01:31:54] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:krystal_76070| :3
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[2025-09-20 04:37:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:bsd.us| @northernscrub sorry to ping you again on this but im curious on what you're up to
[2025-09-20 04:37:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:bsd.us| @northernscrub sorry to ping you again on this but im curious on what you're up to
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[2025-09-20 06:46:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh sorry, I completely missed that.
[2025-09-20 06:46:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh sorry, I completely missed that.
[2025-09-20 06:58:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm looking potentially at Upryzing, which is a fork of Revolt by... I wanna say Sophie? I forget. Anyway, this one is foss from the beginning, instead of those weird CLA licenses. 
[2025-09-20 06:58:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm looking potentially at Upryzing, which is a fork of Revolt by... I wanna say Sophie? I forget. Anyway, this one is foss from the beginning, instead of those weird CLA licenses. 
[2025-09-20 06:58:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Not because Revolt is bad software, or because there's a mixture of CLA, FLA, AGPL and other libre-esque licenses, but because revolt in general hasn't entirely settled on how they're going to proceed. They seem to intend to find a single approach to libre software, but there's a lot of community bickering and it doesn't seem quite appropriate to be using the suite when its futur <clipped message>
[2025-09-20 06:58:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Not because Revolt is bad software, or because there's a mixture of CLA, FLA, AGPL and other libre-esque licenses, but because revolt in general hasn't entirely settled on how they're going to proceed. They seem to intend to find a single approach to libre software, but there's a lot of community bickering and it doesn't seem quite appropriate to be using the suite when its futur <clipped message>
[2025-09-20 06:58:46] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| e is not 100% set in stone, barring disaster. It's probably par for the course, this is a huge project and it's being headed up by a man who has literally just become a man - he's fresh out of uni and this was something he started on before he left college. Real life is obviously going to come first, but that's kinda left revolt a little bit lost in the ether. 
[2025-09-20 06:58:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| e is not 100% set in stone, barring disaster. It's probably par for the course, this is a huge project and it's being headed up by a man who has literally just become a man - he's fresh out of uni and this was something he started on before he left college. Real life is obviously going to come first, but that's kinda left revolt a little bit lost in the ether. 
[2025-09-20 06:58:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| They do seem to be settling on a path forwards, though, so it may not be necessary to actually switch over - particularly by the time *I* get around to doing anything about it. We'll see.
[2025-09-20 06:58:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| They do seem to be settling on a path forwards, though, so it may not be necessary to actually switch over - particularly by the time *I* get around to doing anything about it. We'll see.
[2025-09-20 07:30:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:bsd.us| thank you for sharing, but yeah Upryzing doesn't seem even working atm, maybe in the mean time keeping revolt would be a great idea
[2025-09-20 07:30:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:bsd.us| thank you for sharing, but yeah Upryzing doesn't seem even working atm, maybe in the mean time keeping revolt would be a great idea
[2025-09-20 07:31:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:bsd.us| I personnaly don't feel like Upryzing is more future proof than revolt tbh
[2025-09-20 07:31:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:bsd.us| I personnaly don't feel like Upryzing is more future proof than revolt tbh
[2025-09-20 07:31:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:bsd.us| they're both in development so anything could happen idk
[2025-09-20 07:31:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:bsd.us| they're both in development so anything could happen idk
[2025-09-20 07:33:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh ya, nothing set in stone yet. And tbf, nobody uses the self-hosted side of the community yet, mostly because it's not 100% bridged. I still need to figure out how to bridge the voice chats, which may result in a hacky solution
[2025-09-20 07:33:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh ya, nothing set in stone yet. And tbf, nobody uses the self-hosted side of the community yet, mostly because it's not 100% bridged. I still need to figure out how to bridge the voice chats, which may result in a hacky solution
[2025-09-20 08:13:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| Nothing screams open source like 5 forks 6 licenses and 0 working platforms
[2025-09-20 08:13:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| Nothing screams open source like 5 forks 6 licenses and 0 working platforms
[2025-09-20 08:13:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| 10x the politics 0.1x the features
[2025-09-20 08:13:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| 10x the politics 0.1x the features
[2025-09-20 08:16:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| @northernscrub @ninjapotato1080 can we do this?
[2025-09-20 08:16:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| @northernscrub @ninjapotato1080 can we do this?
[2025-09-20 08:16:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1418933958686670940/image.png?ex=68cfecba&is=68ce9b3a&hm=9a00edb8e1a8f4f281e4a0f1a5658d0a2770b2fb3e43ea322ce3ce7884e1f961&
[2025-09-20 08:16:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1418933958686670940/image.png?ex=68cfecba&is=68ce9b3a&hm=9a00edb8e1a8f4f281e4a0f1a5658d0a2770b2fb3e43ea322ce3ce7884e1f961&
[2025-09-20 08:17:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1418933959378600007/image.png?ex=68cfecba&is=68ce9b3a&hm=597c5be777ab1ef2fc5876770302cb105d43f6060ac043cc35d37ac71b286cb3&
[2025-09-20 08:17:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1418933959378600007/image.png?ex=68cfecba&is=68ce9b3a&hm=597c5be777ab1ef2fc5876770302cb105d43f6060ac043cc35d37ac71b286cb3&
[2025-09-20 08:27:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| What tags do we use though? TRON would be the most obvious, but also trademarks could be a problem. AA might be misinterpreted as Alcoholics Anonymous. RC is too obscure, and might be misinterpreted as someone being very interested in radio comms or remote control vehicles.
[2025-09-20 08:27:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| What tags do we use though? TRON would be the most obvious, but also trademarks could be a problem. AA might be misinterpreted as Alcoholics Anonymous. RC is too obscure, and might be misinterpreted as someone being very interested in radio comms or remote control vehicles.
[2025-09-20 08:28:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| sumo or fort maybe? granted not really insightful or relevant to anyone who doesnt know the game though. 
[2025-09-20 08:28:58] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| sumo or fort maybe? granted not really insightful or relevant to anyone who doesnt know the game though. 
[2025-09-20 08:28:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| bind? arma?
[2025-09-20 08:28:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| bind? arma?
[2025-09-20 08:29:15] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| zone
[2025-09-20 08:29:15] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| zone
[2025-09-20 08:30:08] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| maze
[2025-09-20 08:30:08] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| maze
[2025-09-20 08:39:27] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:i_hate_cheese| AA tag already exists
[2025-09-20 08:39:28] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:i_hate_cheese| AA tag already exists
[2025-09-20 08:39:39] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:i_hate_cheese| I think Grid would be good
[2025-09-20 08:39:39] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:i_hate_cheese| I think Grid would be good
[2025-09-20 08:39:58] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| grid is a good one
[2025-09-20 08:39:58] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| grid is a good one
[2025-09-20 08:40:10] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| it doesn't matter much if the tag isnt unique
[2025-09-20 08:40:10] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| it doesn't matter much if the tag isnt unique
[2025-09-20 08:40:51] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| bc like
[2025-09-20 08:40:51] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| bc like
[2025-09-20 08:40:52] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| 1. tags are mainly vanity for the user imo
[2025-09-20 08:40:52] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| 1. tags are mainly vanity for the user imo
[2025-09-20 08:40:53] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| 2. clicking the tag links to the server so there won't be misconceptions
[2025-09-20 08:40:53] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:ptr1chr| 2. clicking the tag links to the server so there won't be misconceptions
[2025-09-20 08:50:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| I love grid
[2025-09-20 08:50:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| I love grid
[2025-09-20 09:11:43] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:krystal_76070| grid is good
[2025-09-20 09:11:43] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:krystal_76070| grid is good
[2025-09-20 09:24:55] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:icedtea25| grid is a good one
[2025-09-20 09:24:55] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:icedtea25| grid is a good one
[2025-09-20 09:26:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| grid sounds great
[2025-09-20 09:26:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| grid sounds great
[2025-09-20 09:30:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| we need two more boosts for it though. Unless I disable the first boost level, which would remove hd streaming and the wobbly server icon
[2025-09-20 09:30:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| we need two more boosts for it though. Unless I disable the first boost level, which would remove hd streaming and the wobbly server icon
[2025-09-20 09:33:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| thoughts on doing that?
[2025-09-20 09:33:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| thoughts on doing that?
[2025-09-20 09:33:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| huh
[2025-09-20 09:33:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| huh
[2025-09-20 09:33:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| it says 3 boosts tho
[2025-09-20 09:33:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| it says 3 boosts tho
[2025-09-20 09:33:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya and we've used two
[2025-09-20 09:33:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya and we've used two
[2025-09-20 09:35:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| oh its like a currency? weird
[2025-09-20 09:35:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| oh its like a currency? weird
[2025-09-20 09:40:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| i kinda like HD streaming i use that often to show the game to new ppl
[2025-09-20 09:40:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| i kinda like HD streaming i use that often to show the game to new ppl
[2025-09-20 09:40:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| but the animated icon is meh imo
[2025-09-20 09:40:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| but the animated icon is meh imo
[2025-09-20 09:51:22] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| Damn it never used to be like a currency
[2025-09-20 09:51:22] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| Damn it never used to be like a currency
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[2025-09-20 12:58:59] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:en1321241| Yo wsp
[2025-09-20 12:58:59] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:en1321241| Yo wsp
[2025-09-20 13:06:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| hey!
[2025-09-20 13:06:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| hey!
[2025-09-20 13:07:05] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:en1321241| Yo
[2025-09-20 13:07:05] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:en1321241| Yo
[2025-09-20 13:07:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| how are you finding the grid
[2025-09-20 13:07:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| how are you finding the grid
[2025-09-20 13:11:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:en1321241| I still haven't played
[2025-09-20 13:11:20] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:en1321241| I still haven't played
[2025-09-20 13:14:01] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:en1321241| It isn't letting me join a team
[2025-09-20 13:14:01] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:en1321241| It isn't letting me join a team
[2025-09-20 13:16:24] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:en1321241| How do I get in
[2025-09-20 13:16:24] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:en1321241| How do I get in
[2025-09-20 13:35:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| forums is down i think @northernscrub idk who to tag
[2025-09-20 13:35:25] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| forums is down i think @northernscrub idk who to tag
[2025-09-20 13:36:42] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| 403
[2025-09-20 13:36:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| 403
[2025-09-20 13:38:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yep. blame OSA
[2025-09-20 13:38:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| yep. blame OSA
[2025-09-20 14:29:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| deli this is some bs and you know it
[2025-09-20 14:29:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| deli this is some bs and you know it
[2025-09-20 14:29:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| give me it i’ll host it
[2025-09-20 14:29:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| give me it i’ll host it
[2025-09-20 14:29:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| this little rebellion does nothing but harm us
[2025-09-20 14:29:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| this little rebellion does nothing but harm us
[2025-09-20 14:30:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| i would not be as cautious as Tank, but the decision is up to him and I have no say in the operation thereof. Once I get our disclaimer done (which will take a hot minute) we'll be back up
[2025-09-20 14:30:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| i would not be as cautious as Tank, but the decision is up to him and I have no say in the operation thereof. Once I get our disclaimer done (which will take a hot minute) we'll be back up
[2025-09-20 14:30:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| Why will it take a hot minute
[2025-09-20 14:30:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| Why will it take a hot minute
[2025-09-20 14:30:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| I’d have it done in 2 mins
[2025-09-20 14:30:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| I’d have it done in 2 mins
[2025-09-20 14:33:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| because I have a number of other things on my plate, not least the physical health issues that will continue to plague me for some time yet. 
[2025-09-20 14:33:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| because I have a number of other things on my plate, not least the physical health issues that will continue to plague me for some time yet. 
[2025-09-20 14:33:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The disclaimer is... more complex than that. It's several pages of risk assessments plus region-specific compliance measures. I'd argue that we don't really need more than a few words or paragraphs dictating how we manage risk, perceived or real, but the proper disclaimer is belt and braces. I just need a moment to go through the actual act, the templating set in place, etcetera.
[2025-09-20 14:33:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The disclaimer is... more complex than that. It's several pages of risk assessments plus region-specific compliance measures. I'd argue that we don't really need more than a few words or paragraphs dictating how we manage risk, perceived or real, but the proper disclaimer is belt and braces. I just need a moment to go through the actual act, the templating set in place, etcetera.
[2025-09-20 14:34:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| And in reality, that's the approach we *should* take. I certainly can't afford a costly legal incident because someone posted something slightly naughty on the revolt server and a ten year old laughed at the boobies.
[2025-09-20 14:34:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| And in reality, that's the approach we *should* take. I certainly can't afford a costly legal incident because someone posted something slightly naughty on the revolt server and a ten year old laughed at the boobies.
[2025-09-20 14:34:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| bro
[2025-09-20 14:34:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| bro
[2025-09-20 14:35:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| nobody
[2025-09-20 14:35:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| nobody
[2025-09-20 14:35:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| will ever
[2025-09-20 14:35:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| will ever
[2025-09-20 14:35:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| read this
[2025-09-20 14:35:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| read this
[2025-09-20 14:36:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| I get this is important to you. I do. In a way I respect it; but can’t you see that your personal views are clouding this matter?
[2025-09-20 14:36:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| I get this is important to you. I do. In a way I respect it; but can’t you see that your personal views are clouding this matter?
[2025-09-20 14:37:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| You have shoehorned yourself into this idea of a social media operator and that you are held to those same restrictions. I would revisit this assumption.
[2025-09-20 14:37:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| You have shoehorned yourself into this idea of a social media operator and that you are held to those same restrictions. I would revisit this assumption.
[2025-09-20 14:38:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's already happening. The OSA has already been used to prosecute platforms in the wake of protests the other week, as well as other communications. It's not merely "social media" that is required to take note of the act, it's anyone operating any platform on which communication may or may nto take place
[2025-09-20 14:38:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's already happening. The OSA has already been used to prosecute platforms in the wake of protests the other week, as well as other communications. It's not merely "social media" that is required to take note of the act, it's anyone operating any platform on which communication may or may nto take place
[2025-09-20 14:38:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| When in reality it just means a huge portion of the EU player base just can’t access the forums. Great.
[2025-09-20 14:38:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| When in reality it just means a huge portion of the EU player base just can’t access the forums. Great.
[2025-09-20 14:38:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| This is a game deli not a social activism community
[2025-09-20 14:38:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| This is a game deli not a social activism community
[2025-09-20 14:39:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:Jamie| An *extremely* niche game at that.
[2025-09-20 14:39:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:Jamie| An *extremely* niche game at that.
[2025-09-20 14:40:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes, and like I said, I wouldn't go as far as Tank has - that's why I haven't taken the revolt server offline. Tank has elected to do what he has done because of his interpretation of the act and its connotations, but here's the thing: realistically, how many people access the forums? For the moment, *not that many people*. But irrespective of how we approach the interim, I promi <clipped message>
[2025-09-20 14:40:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes, and like I said, I wouldn't go as far as Tank has - that's why I haven't taken the revolt server offline. Tank has elected to do what he has done because of his interpretation of the act and its connotations, but here's the thing: realistically, how many people access the forums? For the moment, *not that many people*. But irrespective of how we approach the interim, I promi <clipped message>
[2025-09-20 14:40:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sed tank I'd do a prope rdisclaimer that we can apply to the community as a whole. Couple days maybe.
[2025-09-20 14:40:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sed tank I'd do a prope rdisclaimer that we can apply to the community as a whole. Couple days maybe.
[2025-09-20 14:42:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and tbf, the disclaimer mostly boils down to "we actively moderate this platform, and as such the risk of exposure to 'improper' content is minimal"
[2025-09-20 14:42:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and tbf, the disclaimer mostly boils down to "we actively moderate this platform, and as such the risk of exposure to 'improper' content is minimal"
[2025-09-20 14:42:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| just expressed as like, twenty risk assessments
[2025-09-20 14:42:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| just expressed as like, twenty risk assessments
[2025-09-20 14:42:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes, it's super fucking stupid
[2025-09-20 14:42:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| yes, it's super fucking stupid
[2025-09-20 14:42:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| (yes, I also want to leave this country)
[2025-09-20 14:42:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| (yes, I also want to leave this country)
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