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[2020-06-01 03:46:47] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1263 Merge branch 'legacy_0.2.8.3_docker_fixes1' into 'legacy_0.2... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] Versions branded 'alpha' go to the 'alpha' series || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] New image for wine based builds || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] Disable armalpine_64 build, it is unused
[2020-06-01 04:47:00] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1541 Merge CI system from 0.2.8.3 with adaptions... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Prepare for merge to 0.2.8...
[2020-06-01 05:47:13] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1542 Merge from legacy_0.2.8.3 || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1264 Sensible _alpha, _beta and _rc version part...
[2020-06-01 12:48:41] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1268 Narrow download site deployment dependencies... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1267 Add windows source zip generation || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1266 Fix CI_COMMIT_REF_NAME during deploy || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1265 Remove stray letter
[2020-06-01 14:49:07] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1543 Merge from 0.2.8.3: Small build system fixes...
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[2020-06-01 17:19:37] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1275 Update NEWS by hand from CHANGELOG.md || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1274 Support new issue types in patch notes... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1273 Deploy LTS builds to LTS ppa... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1272 Current CHANGELOG.md, autogenerated || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1271 Make formatting match the patchnote generator... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1270 Add
[2020-06-01 17:49:44] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1277 Automatically generate NEWS || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1276 Fix rc version for zeroinstall
[2020-06-01 18:49:54] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1278 Add build type to download news entry...
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[2020-06-01 19:30:20] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc .6 * 600
[2020-06-01 19:30:21] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 360
[2020-06-01 20:16:48] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc .9 * 350
[2020-06-01 20:16:49] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 315
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[2020-06-01 23:02:47] <Lucifer_arma> I really wish that all these white people in this country would stop whining about the looting and the fires and realize that if these problems don't get addressed, sooner or later, the shooting back starts

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[2020-06-02 00:51:13] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1544 Merge from 0.2.8.3
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[2020-06-02 01:21:21] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1545 Update CHANGELOG_FROZEN.md to keep NEWS consistent...
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[2020-06-02 01:51:29] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1279 Never consider -pre* versions stable for zeroinstall
[2020-06-02 02:21:34] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1546 Activate Steam build and deployment
[2020-06-02 06:21:13] <Armanelgtron> https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/steam-art/-/blob/master/good/icons/LinuxIcons/icon_96x96.png no hub? feels like I'm looking into a black hole, heh
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[2020-06-02 17:24:34] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1282 Make staging/nonstaging accessible to testing... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1281 Refine Ubuntu PPA target selection... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1280 Refine CI test environment setup...
[2020-06-02 17:54:43] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1547 Merge from 0.2.8.3...
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[2020-06-03 03:26:36] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1285 Non-releases do not deploy to ppa in staging phase || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1284 Print relevant deployment variables in ci_test || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1283 Only set git configuration if none is present yet...
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[2020-06-03 05:27:02] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1289 Enable merge test job... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1288 Deactivate regular build on merge pipeline || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1286 Add CI targets for quicker merge checks... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1287 Activate special merge test targets
[2020-06-03 06:27:10] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1548 Merge from 0.2.8.3...
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[2020-06-03 11:58:20] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1549 Merge from 0.2.8.3... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1291 Fix ppa association of 0.2.9 release candidates... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1290 Optimize CI build...
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[2020-06-04 17:01:22] <Z-Man> Uuuuurgh steam nuissance. The runtime is based on Ubunut 12.04. Its age is already causing trouble for the master build (boost::shared_ptr is broken is C++11 mode), nothing I can't solve quickly, but it's a major worry for future upgrades.
[2020-06-04 17:12:42] <Z-Man> Heck, it means C++14 is out of reach.
[2020-06-04 17:35:44] <Z-Man> Scratch the quick fix. boost::thread, naturally, uses boost::shared_ptr. Hmm. I guess I need to patch the header in steam's docker image, then.
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[2020-06-05 00:25:29] -!- Topic for #armagetron is "http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup"
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[2020-06-05 07:38:00] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1550 Merge from 0.2.8.3... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1292 Deal with non-fixed issues properly
[2020-06-05 10:08:32] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3133 Merge branch 'master_prepare_ci' into 'master'... || [0.4-armagetronad] Don't include -handler.destop in appimage... || [0.4-armagetronad] Add required non-localized Name field... || [0.4-armagetronad] Adapt to new library name on master || [0.4-armagetronad] Merge from 0.2.9 || [0.4-armagetronad] Update steam build image || [0.4-armagetronad] Remove redundant libraries... || [0.4-armagetron
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[2020-06-05 10:20:58] -!- Topic set by guru3 on 2015-04-22 20:50:50 UTC
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[2020-06-05 15:39:42] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1293 Rename staging -> stage for grammar consistency
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[2020-06-05 16:20:16] -!- Topic set by guru3 on 2015-04-22 20:50:50 UTC
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[2020-06-05 16:39:57] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1294 Simplify CI yaml...
[2020-06-05 17:10:04] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3134 Quit tFakeVersion.h nonsense...
[2020-06-05 17:40:09] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3135 Merge from 0.2.8... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1551 Merge from 0.2.8.3... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1296 Add script for ff merging to beta or release... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1295 Add script for merging from safe source...
[2020-06-05 18:10:16] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1552 Merge from 0.2.8.3 || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1297 Fix ff merge into release...
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[2020-06-05 21:11:49] -!- Topic set by guru3 on 2015-04-22 20:50:50 UTC
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[2020-06-06 09:20:32] -!- Topic set by guru3 on 2015-04-22 20:50:50 UTC
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[2020-06-06 09:38:03] <Z-Man> Elegant hack solution: start with steam sdk docker image, apt install some dependencies, copy over repository sources from later ubuntu version, apt install other dependencies (boost only, currently).
[2020-06-06 09:39:23] <Z-Man> Assuming the second wave of dependencies have THEIR dependencies correctly versioned, this should just work.
[2020-06-06 09:41:18] <Z-Man> And we can freely move stuff to the second insallation wave and choose the ubuntu version to use as source, probably always matching the one used for the regular builds. We don't need to chase and patch individual problems, then.
[2020-06-06 09:42:34] <Z-Man> (The first such problem, which I forgot to rant about, was that while ZThread is installable, it comes without configure script. So I already had to pull that one in externally. That solves itself automatically on master, of course.)
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[2020-06-06 16:44:54] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1301 Format correction || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1300 Add gitlab runner section || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1299 Add section about docker rootless inside VM for host || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1298 Correct .local tag directory
[2020-06-06 17:15:01] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1304 Update the index before checking for modifications... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1303 Test for git existence with 'test -e'... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1302 Refuse to merge/ff if the branch has local changes
[2020-06-06 17:45:04] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3136 Merge from 0.2.8... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1553 Merge from 0.2.8.3...
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[2020-06-07 02:53:07] <Armanelgtron> well, 0.4 is "crashing" a lot for me now (that thing where it doesnt sync game objects)
[2020-06-07 02:53:18] <Armanelgtron> I should probably capture a debug recording, but I'm not entirely sure if it would help...
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[2020-06-07 12:51:47] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3137 Merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1554 Merge from 0.2.8.3 || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1305 Merge from beta_0.2.8.3... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] Leave most zeroinstall stability decisions to feed...
[2020-06-07 13:21:48] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1306 Don't use --set-stability if we want to leave it at default
[2020-06-07 15:52:24] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1307 More specific latest build info for download site...
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[2020-06-07 18:53:06] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1555 Merge from 0.2.8.3... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1309 More changelog format adaptions... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1308 Fix sublists in frozen changelog
[2020-06-07 19:23:11] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3140 Update CHANGELOG.md and NEWS || [0.4-armagetronad] r3139 Merge from 0.2.8 || [0.4-armagetronad] r3138 Add trunk/0.3/0.4 histroy to frozen changelog
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[2020-06-08 17:57:55] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1312 Do the actual work in 'docker run', not 'build'... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1311 Pass make jobserver info down to build scripts... || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1310 Hide output of git update-index...
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[2020-06-08 19:28:17] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3141 Merge from 0.2.8
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[2020-06-09 03:29:46] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3142 Add missing debian dependencies
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[2020-06-10 02:12:27] <physkets> Hey!
[2020-06-10 02:13:20] <physkets> If I'm using the latest git version, and somone else, the stable, 0.2.8.x.x version, can we play together?
[2020-06-10 02:13:32] <Armanelgtron> yes
[2020-06-10 02:13:41] <physkets> I mean to ask if a server hosted by one is accessible by the other
[2020-06-10 02:13:47] <physkets> oh! cool! Thanks Armanelgtron
[2020-06-10 02:17:10] <Armanelgtron> to my understanding there are some differences but 0.4 will fallback to something 0.2 can understand
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[2020-06-10 02:49:05] <Armanelgtron> I've finally been convinced that I should find another name other than "3dcycles"
[2020-06-10 02:49:23] <Armanelgtron> confusing bits: there's another game called "3d cycles" that appears to be glTron but with a stolen Armagetron logo
[2020-06-10 02:49:48] <Armanelgtron> also, not to be confused with cycles3d
[2020-06-10 02:50:16] <Armanelgtron> I knew it was a terrible name but I'm not that creative
[2020-06-10 02:55:07] <physkets> Armanelgtron: oh, so there are some differences in the communication code? Any idea what they roughtly are?
[2020-06-10 03:04:48] <Armanelgtron> physkets: Aside from stuff like ZonesV2, 0.4 uses Protobuf and supports unicode, but I don't know the lower level differences
[2020-06-10 03:06:50] <Armanelgtron> it seems 0.2 scrambles strings before transmitting for whatever reason
[2020-06-10 03:09:18] <Armanelgtron> but, for the user, 0.2 and 0.4 is able to connect together just fine
[2020-06-10 03:09:53] <Lucifer_arma> that's as long as the 0.4 server isn't using anything that 0.2 can't understand
[2020-06-10 03:17:53] <physkets> Lucifer_arma: like?
[2020-06-10 03:28:14] <Armanelgtron> physkets: the main thing I can think of is polygonal zones; 0.2 only supports circular zones ... not really a problem unless you're doing a custom map or game mode though.
[2020-06-10 03:29:04] <physkets> Armanelgtron: okay, so for a simple multi-player game with mostly default settings, it should be fine?
[2020-06-10 03:29:16] <Armanelgtron> yeah
[2020-06-10 03:29:36] <physkets> okay!
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[2020-06-10 17:59:49] <Z-Man> The reason 0.2 scrambles strings is that the basic unit of communication there is a 16 bit word, so I just smashed two characters into it, not caring how it would look in packet sniffers or how much pain it would cause third party implementations :)
[2020-06-10 18:00:08] <Z-Man> Armanelgtron: A recording would definitely help more than no recording.
[2020-06-10 18:00:36] <Z-Man> Prime suspect would be the clever differential compression I implemented for the protobuf packets.
[2020-06-10 18:01:41] <Z-Man> (icydk: 'clever' is a curseword among programmers)
[2020-06-10 18:03:02] <Z-Man> It does save bandwidth, but would definitely be impossible to adapt by third party clients or servers, and it's computationally expensive and everyone has to keep a backlog of packets.
[2020-06-10 18:40:24] <Z-Man> I think I'll replace it with something dumb, simple and safe.
[2020-06-10 18:46:45] <Armanelgtron> hmm, maybe an exchange between the server and client to determine what is supported?
[2020-06-10 20:07:13] <Armanelgtron> sorry, was only thinking of the third party client problem, heh
[2020-06-10 20:15:36] <Armanelgtron> Z-Man: actually, the server is 0.2.(8? 9?) sty+ct, both 0.2 and 0.4 clients can stop syncing with the server properly
[2020-06-10 20:15:40] <Armanelgtron> seems more likely to happen if there's lots of turn spam and/or respawns
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[2020-06-10 23:20:43] <Lucifer_arma> just strip out all the zeros.  That'll compress it pretty well.
[2020-06-10 23:21:27] <Lucifer_arma> well, my RV got stolen, so now I'm fucked
[2020-06-10 23:21:32] <Lucifer_arma> *sigh* again

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[2020-06-13 05:19:05] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: That is fucked up. Assholes.
[2020-06-13 05:21:11] <Z-Man> Armanelgtron_: Heh, yeah, of course we have a protocol negotiation thing. Everybody tells everybody else what protocol they support, and when sending, care is taken to not overburden the receiver. We still send stuff the receiver does not understand yet, but that is supposed to get ignored safely.
[2020-06-13 05:21:33] <Z-Man> If one of the ends is < 0.4, then at least it's not the compression. Still an overcomplicated system, though.
[2020-06-13 05:35:47] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc 98/12
[2020-06-13 05:35:48] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 8.16666666667
[2020-06-13 05:44:54] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: so now I'm on the hunt for another one.  :(  I know where I can get a free one, but the guy says I have to show up with a wrecker to tow it, I can't fix it and drive it out.
[2020-06-13 05:45:17] <Lucifer_arma> Looking at trailers, too, even though I don't have anything that can pull one.  one problem at a time.  :/
[2020-06-13 05:46:15] <Lucifer_arma> but right now, for some reason, RVs have gone into really high demand, so once one gets listed, it goes pretty quick
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[2020-06-13 05:46:43] <Lucifer_arma> so, with postmates not having much business because of the protests, I think I'm going to start flipping scooters/vehicles
[2020-06-13 05:46:51] <Armanelgtron> whoops, need to figure out how to automagically change the name to the correct one with Quassel
[2020-06-13 05:50:34] <Armanelgtron> anyway, I know there's a version_min and _max thing, but not really what I was thinking
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[2020-06-13 06:01:32] <Armanelgtron> a third party implementation might support shapepolygons or the VERIFY_COLOR_STRICT command (what a name!) but might not be able to work with the network protocol changes late 0.3 (I think? I don't think I've actually tried using version ID 21... hmmm) and 0.4 introduces
[2020-06-13 06:02:36] <Armanelgtron> (I was under the impression that 0.4 servers would just reject 0.3 but I think that happens on the client)
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[2020-06-13 11:22:27] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1566 Remove dependency version.sh -> tarball... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1565 After modifying makefiles, call automake...
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[2020-06-13 11:52:34] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3146 Merge branch 'legacy_0.2.8' into 'master'...
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[2020-06-14 16:58:52] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1331 Add information...
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[2020-06-15 03:40:27] <Lucifer_arma> I need an algorithm that can read news articles and extract the information from them
[2020-06-15 03:40:45] <Lucifer_arma> names, dates, locations, quotations, age, etc.
[2020-06-15 03:41:36] <Lucifer_arma> be nice if it could extract individual facts associated with each person
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[2020-06-16 14:07:50] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1571 Merge from 0.2.8.3 || [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1332 Correct check for local modifications
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[2020-06-16 23:57:46] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc 700*52
[2020-06-16 23:57:47] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 36400

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[2020-06-17 05:20:31] <Lucifer_arma> ]ping
[2020-06-17 05:20:32] <ljrbot> pong
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[2020-06-17 23:54:10] <Lucifer_arma> Ok, so we have More Evidence that black people are being regularly executed by cops, and trump republicans are still whining about freedom because they've been asked to wear masks to protect one another
[2020-06-17 23:54:37] <Lucifer_arma> For some reason, this is reminding me of the bike shed argument

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[2020-06-18 05:46:09] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-sty+ct+ap] r1109 Check CanRespawn for zone spawn action.
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[2020-06-18 14:31:07] <Z-Man> Itch.io have the best project names: https://github.com/itchio
[2020-06-18 14:31:22] <Z-Man> elefant: probes ELF files
[2020-06-18 14:31:34] <Z-Man> dash: runs stuff
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[2020-06-18 17:33:48] <Armanelgtron> any particular reason why SIZE_ and SPEED_FACTOR are ints instead of floats/REALs?
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[2020-06-18 18:39:24] <Armanelgtron> well I made the change locally (including replacing that exponent function with something a little more simple), which branch should I be targeting though? 0.2.8? 0.2.8.3?
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[2020-06-18 23:22:47] <Lucifer_arma> I figured out why conservatives in America don't like Algebra being taught in schools.  They force you to solve inequalities.

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[2020-06-19 08:41:17] <ct|kyle> I thought it was math in general, they don't like the arabic numerals
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[2020-06-19 18:42:38] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma, ct|kyle: heh :)
[2020-06-19 18:43:05] <Z-Man> Armanelgtron: wouldn't that break network compatibility? I don't remember which variable is transmitted...
[2020-06-19 18:45:08] <Z-Man> The reason it's an int is for the menu. Seemed easier to do at the time.
[2020-06-19 18:46:26] <Z-Man> For the branch question, you can develop on any branch you like! Even if you develop fro 0.2.8.3, I can merge it to 0.2.8 no problem. Well, apart from conflicts.
[2020-06-19 18:47:58] <Z-Man> Only the git history looks weird when you do such a thing and enable --graph.
[2020-06-19 18:48:40] <Z-Man> Anyway, I would not merge that into 0.2.8.3, so 0.2.8 is the best choice.
[2020-06-19 18:49:59] <Armanelgtron> REAL_ARENA_SIZE_FACTOR is what is transmitted, which is already a real
[2020-06-19 18:51:10] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma, guru3_: Don't you want to be co-maintainers on GitLab? Send your IDs and I'll make that so.
[2020-06-19 18:54:59] <Z-Man> Armanelgtron: I see. But it still breaks configurations? While breaking stuff, I'd replace the exponential function with something MUCH more simple then, while at it; equality. REAL_ARENA_SIZE_FACTOR should just be SIZE_FACTOR, and you should just see that in the menu, with appropriate editing possibilities so it does not take ages to to from 1 to 100.
[2020-06-19 18:57:33] <Z-Man> And if it breaks config compatibility, it should go to the master branch, I think.
[2020-06-19 19:00:32] <Armanelgtron> Z-Man: well, what I've done shouldn't break compatibility. Since you're already including math.h, I'm taking advantage of "pow" instead of the current stuff in exponent, the same way I'm doing it in armawebtron. It should produce the same results to REAL_ARENA_SIZE_FACTOR
[2020-06-19 19:01:01] <Armanelgtron> (yes, I decided to call 3dcycles armawebtron, even though I don't really like that name either)
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[2020-06-19 19:55:00] -!- Topic for #armagetron is "http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup"
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[2020-06-19 20:39:45] <Armanelgtron> also, if you ask me, I think we should get rid of seperate SP_ for fundamental game configuration
[2020-06-19 20:40:46] <Armanelgtron> why do we need our wall lengths and map sizes different between single player and multiplayer? but meh
[2020-06-19 20:41:46] <Armanelgtron> another confusing bit, if people don't know better they'll edit CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH manually and be confused at it changing every round
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[2020-06-19 21:56:34] <Armanelgtron> I've been using "confusing bit" a lot lately ... 

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[2020-06-20 03:48:18] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: that's going to require me to create a gitlab account
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[2020-06-20 05:31:42] -!- Topic for #armagetron is "http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup"
[2020-06-20 05:31:42] -!- Topic set by guru3 on 2015-04-22 20:50:50 UTC
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[2020-06-20 05:31:45] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2006-11-26 06:42:45 UTC
[2020-06-20 05:51:48] <Z-Man> Ah, THAT confusing math. I had forgotten about it. Yes, that change should not break config compatibility. Merged.
[2020-06-20 05:54:06] <Z-Man> Also, I don't know what the best procedure there is, but I added you as a guest to the project so I can assign to you the issue I created so a patch note gets created.
[2020-06-20 05:55:24] <Z-Man> You can't assign issues to non-members, it seems. I suppose you can invite someone, assign them an issue, then kick them out again, but that seems rude :)
[2020-06-20 05:56:34] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1572 Make SIZE_ and SPEED_FACTOR a REAL and simplify "exponent"... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Make SIZE_ and SPEED_FACTOR a REAL and simplify "exponent"
[2020-06-20 05:56:54] <Z-Man> Or leave the issue unassigned and let the merge request act as visible credit.
[2020-06-20 06:02:11] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: you can just sign in with pretty much any other service: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/integration/omniauth.html#supported-providers
[2020-06-20 06:03:19] <Z-Man> You can later set up an individual sign-in and password and cut the connection to the original sign-in account.
[2020-06-20 06:05:51] <Z-Man> You don't have to, of course. You've got more important stuff to deal with.
[2020-06-20 06:06:10] <Z-Man> ^^ forgot to ping Armanelgtron
[2020-06-20 06:16:45] <Z-Man> The SP_ /not SP_ divide is for two use cases: On the client, you want to have different configurations for when you battle bots on your own and when playing an ad-hoc LAN game with your pals.
[2020-06-20 06:17:02] <Z-Man> Almost nobody does either of those things :)
[2020-06-20 06:17:42] <Z-Man> And on a server, you want a single player configuration so people don't have to get bored while they're waiting for other players to join.
[2020-06-20 06:17:54] <Z-Man> That can be solved by scripts relatively easily.
[2020-06-20 06:19:06] <Z-Man> So yeah, not may people would probably miss the SP_ versions.
[2020-06-20 06:28:03] <Z-Man> The CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH should just be hidden and protected from modification by the user (though I suppose some people use it for effect?). The division between that and WALLS_LENGTH is required so that changes to WALLS_LENGTH only take effect in the next round because instant changes are problematic (walls can only grow backwards so much). There would be better ways to tackle this, of course.
[2020-06-20 06:32:52] <Z-Man> Future configuration could be based on protobuf. It seems like protobuf has a conversion to/from JSON.
[2020-06-20 06:33:41] <Z-Man> So configuration could be a JSON file, that gets read into a protobuf message, where we have access to the individual settings as regular C++ members.
[2020-06-20 06:34:38] <Z-Man> And to sync settings to clients, we send them the message. With update-only optimization for changes, of course.
[2020-06-20 06:35:36] <Z-Man> That's also the easiest path to team specific settings for asymetric game modes, as both JSON and protobuf support nesting.
[2020-06-20 06:35:48] <Z-Man> All dreams and speculation, of course.
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[2020-06-20 10:31:53] -!- Topic set by guru3 on 2015-04-22 20:50:50 UTC
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[2020-06-20 11:33:29] <Armanelgtron> FWIW I do use CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH in the snake server ... don't particularly care for the wall growing backwards in that application, heh
[2020-06-20 13:28:17] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-sty+ct+ap] r1110 Merge from 0.2.8.
[2020-06-20 16:05:38] <Armanelgtron> Z-Man: I was going to mention something else but I've since forgotten what. I'll just address the single player thing: The minimum teams/players/bots configuration does make sense to me, but not the ability to change some game play elements in single player
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[2020-06-21 21:18:33] <Lucifer_arma> It's definitely time for some tubthumping
[2020-06-21 21:18:40] <Lucifer_arma> I found and took possession of another RV :)
[2020-06-21 21:20:20] <Lucifer_arma> In this RV, everything worked when it was parked about 5 years ago.  So, getting it running shouldn't really be all that difficult for me :)
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[2020-06-22 19:27:35] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc 120-72
[2020-06-22 19:27:36] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 48
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[2020-06-24 16:52:14] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3149 Merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1573 Merge from beta_0.2.9 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Remove duplicate access_level_change language string || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] German translations... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Add missing German translations... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Rename old silence_player_* strings to ignore_player_*... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Rename
[2020-06-24 18:52:42] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3150 Remove obsolete language file resurrected by merge
[2020-06-24 19:22:46] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad] r3151 Fix screen initialization error handling... || [0.4-armagetronad] Recreate screen on depth changes... || [0.4-armagetronad] On video mode init failure, try reducing depth first... || [0.4-armagetronad] Fix storage of last fullscreen mode...
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[2020-06-25 17:59:35] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1574 Tag downloaded docker images...
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[2020-06-26 18:24:25] <Z-Man> ITCH.IO IS AMAZING
[2020-06-26 18:24:45] <Z-Man> Their tool only requires login credentials in a file
[2020-06-26 18:25:30] <Z-Man> you point it to a directory with your game, tell it via a tag which OS it is for
[2020-06-26 18:25:45] <Z-Man> And that's it. If there's only one executable in the top level of that directory, that's what gets run.
[2020-06-26 18:27:55] <Z-Man> It's as if their design goals are "Right. Creating games is hard enough. Publishing them should be as simple as possible."
[2020-06-26 18:29:08] <Z-Man> They also have a dropdown menu somewhere where you can tell them your game is GPL. (or MIT or whatever)
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[2020-06-27 04:36:43] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8.3-armagetronad-work] r1333 Made AppRun work if call path contains spaces...
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[2020-06-27 14:08:39] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1576 Correct forum link
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[2020-06-28 16:46:12] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1579 Remove trailing .0 in version on alpha branch, too
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[2020-06-29 20:49:47] <Lucifer_arma> xysdbx
[2020-06-29 21:00:37] <Armanelgtron> dbx? dolby!
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[2020-06-30 00:08:21] <Lucifer_arma> heh, no, that was a special code for an online only discount that they served up in a copy-safe image rather than something I could copy into the clipboard
[2020-06-30 01:55:07] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1583 Adapt to /usr/local -> /usr move
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[2020-06-30 07:02:59] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc 180-85
[2020-06-30 07:02:59] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 95
[2020-06-30 07:03:17] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc 95*2
[2020-06-30 07:03:17] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 190
[2020-06-30 07:03:33] <Lucifer_arma> ]math calc 360-290
[2020-06-30 07:03:33] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 70
[2020-06-30 07:03:51] <Lucifer_arma> ok, my method was correct, but my arithmetic was wrong.  No surprise, I'm sleepy.
[2020-06-30 10:57:01] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-sty+ct+ap] r1111 Disallow scoreboard from being toggled while chatting instea...
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[2020-06-30 15:58:11] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1586 Test AppDir and AppImage... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1585 Add some indirect dependencies to libraries || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1584 AppRun: Quote safety for arguments
[2020-06-30 16:28:16] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-sty+ct+ap] r1112 Aspect ratio correction for text.
[2020-06-30 19:28:49] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-sty+ct+ap] r1113 Don't include colors when shrinking center messages.
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