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[11:22:25] <Z-Man> It's practically never not at least a bit windy around here, and we have windows to the east and west. So in the summer, if we open both sides, we always get a nice draft. We don't even have a fan :) When I'm too hot, I just make myself wet a little and let the wind/draft do the rest. The inner parts of the forearms are particularly effective, that's where all the veins are, so you cool your blood and that at least leads to feeling not so
[11:22:25] <Z-Man> hot quickly.
[11:22:45] <Z-Man> WET WITH TAP WATER, just to clear that up
[11:25:31] <Z-Man> What also helps is that our building is massive 50cm concrete on the outside walls, which keeps the cold of the night in reserve a bit for the day.
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[11:31:05] <Z-Man> Cologne is niche and compact, like most our cities (except possibly Hamburg and Berlin, they're just too big). Even though we live on the outer rim, it's still only 7km to the center.
[11:32:41] <Z-Man> And our supermarkets are spread throughout, so it's never a huge treck to get to one. We have two that are as huge as they get about one km away.
[11:35:00] <Z-Man> It would all be super bicicle friendly, it's just that the bike lanes are often in bad shape or badly designed (too narrow to safely overtake, mostly)
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[15:12:44] <Lucifer_arma> heh, around here, with the advent of AC, builders got lazy and just started pointing every home in arbitrary directions. The home I was living in right before my divorce had the least insulated part with the most windows pointing directly at the rising sun.
[15:13:27] <Lucifer_arma> so when the AC is out, 19th century cooling techniques don't work so well. I once watched a documentary going into detail on how 19th century ranchers in their ranch houses were able to keep a cool 80F inside their homes,
[15:13:52] <Lucifer_arma> and there was a lot of "Build it with the windows pointing east and west, put a roof over the patios on both sides" stuff going on
[15:14:06] <Lucifer_arma> out in the desert, of course, they build with adobe, which has the same effect as your concrete building
[15:15:04] <Lucifer_arma> but around here, everything is still wood-framed. I'm in a three storey building that's a wood framed building, for example. Luckily, our windows point north and south, and we're in the middle, so the top apartment is the hot one and the bottom one is the cool one
[15:15:16] <Lucifer_arma> *I meant windows facing north and south int he ranch houses, of course
[15:16:01] <Lucifer_arma> anyway, 7km doesn't get you too far in Austin. I'm probably more like 14km from the center of town, and 3km from the edge, and that's not even counting that the town wasn't really designed well, so there are no direct routes to go anywhere
[15:17:35] <Lucifer_arma> and we're so humid, we don't get cold of the night. If the daily high is 90F, the overnight low will be around 84F. When you factor in how much heat the atmosphere can hold, our altitude above sea level, and so forth,
[15:18:04] <Lucifer_arma> I'm in the NW corner of the hottest part of the world. So we don't get it as bad as Corpus Christi, and down where the Rio Grande drains into the gulf is the hottest place.
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[15:18:40] <Lucifer_arma> we don't get the highest temperatures, because those are invariable in the middle east, but we get the most heat/m^3 stored in the atmosphere
[15:19:38] <Lucifer_arma> you're experiencing subtropical climate right now, but typically the only one in europe is southern France/Italy, and that's one of the cooler ones.
[15:19:55] <Lucifer_arma> iirc, Hong Kong competes with Texas for heat overall.
[15:22:27] <Lucifer_arma> but right now, we're more temperate, and it's very much out-of-season and out-of-character. So we're hitting low-90s during the day, but dropping to low-70s at night. It's nice, but disturbing, because I keep coming back to Texas being a Republican state
[15:23:04] <Lucifer_arma> our lawmakers technically work part-time, but when they're in session, it's right here in Austin where they're living, and they make Texas energy policy very much based on the climate in Austin
[15:23:28] <Lucifer_arma> if climate change is causing us to be more temperate now, then our lawmakers in Texas will be much more inclined to deny climate change than they already were
[15:24:02] <Lucifer_arma> and Texas is not only one of the big energy states, but we're the second most populous state in the country. We're so big, when our state school board decides that science textbooks have to have "intelligent design" presented,
[15:24:18] <Lucifer_arma> at least 15 other states are stuck having to buy those textbooks, regardless of what their own educational policies are
[15:25:29] <Lucifer_arma> economically, we're bigger than France and most of the individual EU countries. So Texas state energy/climate policies have an outsized impact on the world.
[15:26:06] <Lucifer_arma> luckily, the legislation just finished their session, so they're not actually making laws in this climate (and they did *some* good things, for a change). It'll be a year and a half before they're in session again.
[15:29:50] <Lucifer_arma> also, luckily, we're a leader in renewable energy (mostly wind), and natural gas power. Rick Perry tried really hard to push coal, but the coal market kept getting more expensive
[15:30:26] <Lucifer_arma> but he also saw that renewable energy would be a big market for Texas, since we export not only oil and natural gas, but generated electricity, so he pushed for that, all the time denying climate change :)
[15:30:52] <Lucifer_arma> our new governor is doubling down, with the intention of being like 50% renewable in 10-15 years or something like that.
[15:31:44] <Lucifer_arma> but they keep backing away from any significant public transit initiatives and pushing toll roads and more car driving, naturally because the oil companies are paying them
[17:43:01] <luke-jr> [19:23:28] <Lucifer_arma> if climate change is causing us to be more temperate now, then our lawmakers in Texas will be much more inclined to deny climate change than they already were <-- or embrace climate change, more like?>
[18:02:07] <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: that would be nice, but remember that it was originally "global warming", hence why a Republican senator took a snowball into the senate chamber to argue against climate change just last year or so
[18:02:30] <Lucifer_arma> we'll know if Texas republicans embrace climate change when they start worrying about Houston
[18:04:52] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: no, I meant literally embrace it :P
[18:05:06] <luke-jr> "yeah! climate change FTW"
[18:13:34] <Lucifer_arma> oh, haha. :)
[18:13:47] <Lucifer_arma> like that time Spidey and I tried to cause global warming in civ
[18:14:20] <Lucifer_arma> I've actually been wondering if Russia's been baiting us intentionally to cause global warming to strengthen their own land and open up the northwest passage
[18:15:03] <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: I also wonder how many texas lawmakers and their friends have been investing in property out in Bastrop with the hope that it'll be coastal property in twenty years
[18:16:00] <Lucifer_arma> but I guarantee you there'll be an "inland coastal property" land grab once the models clear up enough to figure out where the new sea levels will stabilize
[18:31:41] <luke-jr> if I ever get that far in civ, I do try to mix nuclear winter and global warming
[18:32:06] <luke-jr> freeze the oceans, then thaw it a bit :D
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