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Log from 2019-02-21: [07:34:54] *** Quits: theocrite (~Jean-Mari@april/member/theocrite) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [07:48:31] *** Joins: theocrite (~Jean-Mari@april/member/theocrite) [09:01:35] *** Quits: physkets (~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets) (Quit: physkets) [10:44:47] *** Joins: physkets (~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets) [14:56:34] *** Quits: physkets (~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets) (Quit: physkets) [17:50:41] *** Joins: Lucifer_arma (~kubuntu@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) [17:51:11] <Lucifer_arma> I have just determined that Ubuntu LTS releases functioned as enablers for my drinking [17:51:34] <Lucifer_arma> They did so by making it possible for me to go two years at a time without upgrading my OS, which can be difficult to keep up with if you're drunk ;) [17:53:33] *** Quits: Lucifer_arma (~kubuntu@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) (Client Quit) [18:03:13] *** Joins: Lucifer_arma (~kubuntu@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) [19:21:56] *** Quits: Lucifer_arma (~kubuntu@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) (Remote host closed the connection) [20:43:46] *** Joins: Lucifer_arma (~dave@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) [20:44:17] <Lucifer_arma> alrighty then. Got my new OS installed onto my new hard drive. Computer is working again. Not yet at 100%, but at least it's working. [21:03:06] *** Joins: zmanuel (~Z-Man@p5B3265BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [21:03:06] *** Z-Man is now known as Guest3465 [21:03:07] *** Quits: Guest3465 (~Z-Man@p5B3265E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) [21:03:07] *** zmanuel is now known as Z-Man [21:10:22] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: Welcome back [21:10:24] <Lucifer_arma> So how does this make sense? [21:10:36] <Lucifer_arma> I have used the same software for years, on old hardware that's been supported for years [21:10:49] <Lucifer_arma> None of this software has gotten significant new features that have changed how I use it in any way [21:11:06] <Lucifer_arma> why in the hell am I still having to run "Software Updates" every couple of days? What the hell are they updating? [21:11:27] <ct|kyle> lots of patching? [21:12:41] <ct|kyle> Firefox has changed a lot in 2 years [21:13:07] <Lucifer_arma> I can't help but compare it to replacing working parts in a car just because the new parts have fewer old flaws, but introduce new ones that will inevitably require replacing on an otherwise perfectly funcational vehicle [21:13:54] <Lucifer_arma> what about Kate? The only new feature it's gotten in ten years that I can see is changing the scrollbar to a rendering of the text file that's open [21:14:13] <Lucifer_arma> what about Bash? What in the hell can they possibly still be adding to bash? [21:14:44] <ct|kyle> who said they were adding [21:14:57] <Lucifer_arma> then why does it need regular updating? [21:15:09] <ct|kyle> did't the kernel lines of code get reduced recently [21:15:21] <Lucifer_arma> it's the most-used shell, and has been for like three decades. Is it really possible it still has bugs in it? [21:15:32] <Lucifer_arma> I don't know. The kernel updates make sense. :) [21:15:47] <ct|kyle> bugs or ways to optimize stuff [21:16:06] <Lucifer_arma> but I wonder, with apps like Kate, how much work they do on the app just to keep it compatible with changes in the underlying toolkits [21:16:38] <ct|kyle> I feel like a lot of the KDE platform apps just get updated to support the new release of kde [21:16:39] <Lucifer_arma> like, I'd be surprised if less than 99% of work done on Kate isn't just fixing flags added to Qt because they wanted Kate to keep behaving the same [21:17:15] <Lucifer_arma> they need new builds to stay compatible with the libraries, no doubt, and if a library changes because of a fix there, then any app depending on it has to be updated too [21:17:24] <ct|kyle> there are also new lanfuages / syntaxes they might be trying to support too [21:17:31] <ct|kyle> languages* [21:17:43] <Lucifer_arma> those are done through text files that describe the language [21:17:56] <Lucifer_arma> afaik, the format of that file hasn't changed in a loooooooooong time [21:18:34] <ct|kyle> I'm sure they probbaoly added stuff fo rust, go, kotlin ... [21:19:06] <Lucifer_arma> heh, apps I don't use ;) [21:19:29] <Lucifer_arma> here's one: command-not-found [21:20:04] <Lucifer_arma> you know, the little script that runs when bash can't find the command you typed, and it says something like "dick not found. It probably exists in packages fake-dick, dildo, etc." [21:20:25] <Lucifer_arma> Kubuntu 18.10, and here we are in 19.02 and fucking command-not-found has an update [21:20:40] <Lucifer_arma> that's four months since release [21:21:08] <Lucifer_arma> but wait, it's Kubuntu 18.10.2, so it's not even what was released in october. how many times have they already updated command-not-found in this release sequence? [21:23:07] <ct|kyle> don't the "update" ie everytime there is a new distro update, because all packages must be made for said distro? [21:23:49] <ct|kyle> which is stupid, but that's what a binary system does [21:23:50] <Lucifer_arma> doesn't it just do a quick grep through the package database? [21:24:08] <Lucifer_arma> how about tzdata? [21:24:22] <Lucifer_arma> why is tzdata needing an update? Did Russia create a new timezone or something? [21:24:45] <ct|kyle> actually that one may be to handle some new leap seconds :P [21:24:59] <Lucifer_arma> nah, those are handled through the time servers :) [21:25:20] <Lucifer_arma> also, why is it 2019 and we have :P, but we still don't have something to represent "grabs your stuck out tongue"? [21:25:38] <Lucifer_arma> because irl, if you stuck your tongue out at me, I'd try to grab it [21:26:35] <Lucifer_arma> these updates need to hurry up. I forgot to install bzr before running it, and I want to get davenetgame from my other computer, where I kept a backup of it just in case my hard drive crashed :) [21:26:51] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: because luke-jr has not paid to have it added to UTF emojis like the tonal stuff [21:27:21] <Lucifer_arma> the tonal stuff? I think I blocked those from my memory. Do I want it refreshed? [21:27:30] <ct|kyle> no [21:28:11] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: did you block luke-jr too ? [21:28:15] <Lucifer_arma> here's one for plasma: now that they have the Windows 10 taskbar, why haven't they merged the systray with it? [21:28:23] <Lucifer_arma> no. New OS install. [21:28:36] <Lucifer_arma> unless I blocked him here in irc, but I don't remember doing that. [21:36:51] <ct|kyle> why does freciv need an update :P [21:41:03] <luke-jr> it doesn't [21:43:50] <Lucifer_arma> what's freciv? [21:47:16] <luke-jr> I wonder if it's possible to make an artificial onsen [22:00:17] <Lucifer_arma> onsen? [22:01:07] <Lucifer_arma> I wish plasma still supported different background images for each virtual desktop [22:01:15] <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll have to learn about activities. :/ [22:03:32] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: mineral hot springs they have in Japan (due to volcanic proximity) [22:06:11] <Lucifer_arma> ah [22:06:16] <Lucifer_arma> why not just throw some sulfur into a hot tub? 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