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Log from 2017-08-03:
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Log from 2017-08-04:
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Log from 2017-08-08:
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[16:14:08] <Z-Man> I'm not familiar enough with MacOS, especially the newest edition, to be of any help to G5. I'd guess it's a firewall problem? Sometimes, on Windows, you have firewalls that freeze programs when they try to access the net. They usually only do so to display a window asking for permission.
[16:17:11] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma, guru3: wouldn't it be better to just lower the number of approved posts required? The current limit seems to be 15. I don't like the idea of having to approve 15 trash topics. THAT'S KIND OF THE OPPOSITE of what I want to do :)
[16:19:19] <Z-Man> Well, at least you can move them to the trash before approving.
[16:48:43] <Z-Man> Oh, that's what Lucifer says too, the limit lowering, I mean.
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[17:41:21] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: Heh, I just posted explaining why I was OK doing the junk post thing this one time.
[17:41:49] <Lucifer_arma> I think we've beat the main problem that led to the probationary period in the first place, so lowering the limit seems reasonable to me since it's now primarily a spam filter
[17:43:22] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: did you come up with a way to forward the contents of a post to your phone as a text message?  Iirc, the email that gets sent doesn't contain that.  That would be handy, a little gmail filter that forwards the notification emails to my phone that contains the post contents.
[17:44:51] <Lucifer_arma> G5: you joined after Z-Man said it, soooo, have you checked firewall settings?
[17:45:31] <Lucifer_arma> My son had a similar problem in Windows (I think it's Windows 7), but it was weird how it happened.  He was able to download server info from three master servers, then it failed in four successive attempts before it just started working agian
[17:45:57] <Lucifer_arma> He was being silly and trying specifically to connect to mine, and mine only, hence the multiple successive attempts.
[17:50:31] <Lucifer_arma> Side note, I want my phone's autocorrect to start trying to guess the topic based on keywords and suggest words that are associated with that topic, while also learning what words I use associated with topics
[17:50:53] <G5> Lucifer_arma: Yes, I run Little Snitch and that does not even report the Area client trying to connect anywhere
[17:51:13] <G5> Area = Arma ...
[17:51:24] <Lucifer_arma> I wrote "laundry" in a text, and then had to spell "wash" before autocorrect figured out I was saying "washed".  It should have figured it out when I typed "w", after I'd already said "laundry"
[17:52:01] <Lucifer_arma> G5: that indicates it's getting shut down somewhere before the firewall, obviously.  Have you run it from a terminal to see if there are any error messages reported to stdout?
[17:52:20] <G5> wait a second
[17:54:58] <Lucifer_arma> I'm guessing the problem is getting the socket from the kernel.  That's the place where it would most likely hang, I think.  But Z-man would have put a timeout on the socket.open call (or whatever it is in c++)
[17:56:11] <Lucifer_arma> a similar issue I'm having with an Android game looks the same, and I'm 99% certain it's because the kernel doesn't free sockets properly when the app sleeps (it's the broken Bionic c library that's to blame)
[17:56:25] <Lucifer_arma> ]ping
[17:56:25] <ljrbot> pong
[17:57:40] <Z-Man> (Repeating for G5) I'm not familiar enough with MacOS, especially the newest edition, to be of any help to G5. I'd guess it's a firewall problem? Sometimes, on Windows, you have firewalls that freeze programs when they try to access the net. They usually only do so to display a window asking for permission.
[17:59:06] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: I'm using the RSS feed. I have it subscribed in Innoreader, and their phone app has the option to enable push notifications for one feed (in the free version, more in the paid versions).
[17:59:44] <G5> All I get as console output is error messages on unknown commands in my config files. Nothing more. Can I increase verbosity?
[18:00:31] <Lucifer_arma> why would you be getting error messages about unknown commands?
[18:00:34] <Z-Man> Or rather, had. They axed a bunch of stuff for free subscribers, that seems to be one of the things.
[18:00:55] <G5> Like: Command CAMERA_GLANCE_RISE unknown.
[18:01:19] <Lucifer_arma> ok, why is it unknown?  Using a fresh build with config files that used previous customizations?
[18:01:23] <G5> I don't know why … Outdated? Copied it somewhere and never checked.
[18:01:50] <Lucifer_arma> iirc, that's a command associated with the mercam
[18:02:03] <G5> I was never a problem before. I guess the client simply ignores these commands.
[18:02:19] <Lucifer_arma> I'm wondering if somewhere you got an outdated DNS command for the master server, so the client is starting up without one
[18:02:44] <Lucifer_arma> then it wouldn't be able to talk to the master server because it'd have nothing to do, but I can't see that hanging the app.
[18:02:52] <Lucifer_arma> os version and arma version?
[18:04:01] <Lucifer_arma> I'm still suspecting C library problem, though, heh.  If it was linked against an outdated C library that the new macOS doesn't have, that's a potential symptom.
[18:04:33] <G5> In the Arma windows is says "Connecting to master server 1" (or 2 or 3 or 4), looks like always, but then nothing happens
[18:04:53] <G5> macOS current version 10.12.6
[18:05:40] <G5> Arma is a binary build I downloaded, from Feb 2012, claiming to be 0.4 alpha z1865
[18:06:45] <Lucifer_arma> Yeah, that's quite an old build.  Have you run arma on Sierra before?
[18:07:15] <Lucifer_arma> It's quite possible you're going to need to build it, simply because of how old that build is.  Have you built arma before?
[18:08:25] <G5> Ok, I also have a z2242 build. I can connect to the master servers but gfx are broken
[18:08:27] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: how's taco cart and the runnaway?
[18:08:50] <Lucifer_arma> ct|kyle: runaway got married and is in pennsylvania.  Taco Truck not happening, focused on writing.
[18:09:08] <Lucifer_arma> currently procrastinating writing for the day, but I need to do *something* on my book today
[18:09:49] <ct|kyle> Just write "it" I'm sure you can place it somewhere more logical tomorrow
[18:10:10] <Lucifer_arma> Heh, that's a potentially dangerous move.  :)
[18:10:25] <Lucifer_arma> The first complete draft is almost finished (I cheated to declare the rough draft finished)
[18:10:53] <ct|kyle> ah, at that stage
[18:11:00] <Lucifer_arma> and if I just start writing new content, it's likely going to be stuff that belongs in the sequel.  I had to start the sequel just so I could write more story that was in my head, while also putting a wall marking the end of the first book
[18:11:32] <Lucifer_arma> Part of my problem is that the last task I completed was to read through the draft and note every single named character, and give some characters names that I lazed on and didn't name yet
[18:11:37] <ct|kyle> so she really ran away then, did she finish school first?
[18:11:41] <Lucifer_arma> that was tedious as fuck.
[18:11:49] <Lucifer_arma> she got her GED.
[18:12:21] <ct|kyle> how many characters?
[18:12:44] <Lucifer_arma> she's also completely failed to stay out of the hospital.  So her marriage will have one of three possibilities: short-lived, long abusive (with her as the abuser :(  ), or it will save her life somehow
[18:13:16] <Lucifer_arma> around a hundred characters, but they don't all have to be named.  :)  Most of them can be randomly named as flavor.
[18:13:29] <Lucifer_arma> Of the important named characters, probably around twenty
[18:13:45] <G5> I found a v0.3 from 2009. This looks good, gfx are fine and I can connect to master servers … very strange.
[18:14:07] <G5> Ok, I need to build the client myself again some day ... anyone still playing?
[18:14:19] <G5> Thanks and good night
[18:14:38] <ct|kyle> I need to start playing again
[18:14:58] <Lucifer_arma> my choices of tasks right now are: start dropping new characters into scenes that are more like extras than actual characters, start dropping descriptions into dialog scenes to give more context, or continue working on TODO items in the manuscript
[18:14:59] <ct|kyle> I just wish there were others to enjoy CTWF with again
[18:15:12] <Lucifer_arma> my computer can't run arma anymore.  :(
[18:15:52] <Lucifer_arma> I also need to factor most of the staff meetings and turn them into individual scenes between the GM and the Department Manager(s)
[18:15:53] <ct|kyle> I don't think I even ahve the source code on this machine, yet alone the install
[18:16:42] <Lucifer_arma> all three of those tasks carry a certain level of tedium.  I think I'm going to need some beer just to be able to work today, heh
[18:17:23] <ct|kyle> ballmer peak
[18:17:35] <Lucifer_arma> hurricane
[18:17:42] <Lucifer_arma> 8.1% ABV
[18:17:51] <Lucifer_arma> my tolerance is ridiculously high right now
[18:18:10] <ct|kyle> why not just moonshine
[18:18:13] <Lucifer_arma> if I'm going to continue being a functional alcoholic, I'm probably going to have to switch to liquor
[18:19:15] <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm a make a beer run, then I'm going to factor the one staff meeting that's really bothering me and then see what else I want to do today
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[18:30:37] <Lucifer_arma> I factored out the derivative so that I could see the file, but it was in a faraday cage, so I had to use archimedes' principle to open the cage, and then there it was!
[18:30:49] <Lucifer_arma> (just putting that there because I don't have anywhere else to put it before I forget it)
[20:36:56] <ct|kyle> because IRC is the best place to take notes :)
[20:37:11] <ct|kyle> It is realy good at storing root passwords too
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[21:08:35] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I store mine here
[21:08:39] <Lucifer_arma> see?  It's **********
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[22:23:44] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: I know it's really secure since all i see are *'s, mine is **************
[22:24:11] <Lucifer_arma> wow, yours is bigger than mine
[22:25:36] <ct|kyle> I thought the * lenght was not related to the password's length, but the hash's first 4 bits
[22:26:20] <ct|kyle> http://bash.org/?244321
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[17:30:21] <Lucifer_arma_> yay, finally got quassel working right
[17:31:27] <Lucifer_arma_> Yep. I did.
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[17:49:53] <Lucifer_arma> now im typing on my tablet, using vnc
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[17:57:29] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm ready to move most of my work to my tablet now.  Just need to get that keyboard on monday.  A bluetooth mouse might be a nice addition, though.
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Log from 2017-08-12:
[00:12:39] <Lucifer_arma> Anybody know an Android vnc client that can disable mouse input? Or a vnc server that can do it?
[00:13:11] <Lucifer_arma> ]ping
[00:13:11] <ljrbot> pong
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[16:27:32] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: I don't know of any really usable vnc client for android :(
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[20:00:16] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: I found one, actually.  I forget what it's called, but it's made by the RealVNC people.  It'll work for what I need, the problem is the mouse control in it is kind of crap.
[20:00:40] <Lucifer_arma> I can get around those problems with a keyboard that has arrow keys and page up/down keys, and I have one coming that should have those things.
[20:01:10] <Lucifer_arma> I also thought I could get around those problems with a touchpad app for my phone that connects directly to my laptop and turns the phone into a touchpad
[20:01:47] <Lucifer_arma> the problem there is that the vnc server (x11vnc, in this case) gets in conflict with the vnc client and the remote control client, leading to the touchpad not working.
[20:02:07] <Lucifer_arma> my next option is to see if one of these touchpad apps can control the mouse on my tablet, which would also fix the problem.
[20:02:22] <Lucifer_arma> ultimately, the best fix available is a mouse for my tablet, but I'm trying to keep costs down
[20:02:51] <Lucifer_arma> this is all in service of the goal of allowing me to write in my bedroom on my tablet without having to deal with sync issues, because my laptop is no longer portable due to physical damage
[20:03:07] <Lucifer_arma> wow, that's a lot of effort I'm going through just to write in my underwear.  Did that make any sense?
[20:04:25] <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the vnc client I found is good enough to work in LibreOffice, and that's all I need from it.  I've otherwise been able to duplicate everything else I do on my laptop (other than the odd programming here and there) on my tablet, making my tablet a near replacement for my laptop
[20:04:51] <Lucifer_arma> now, if I could get an x11 app for my tablet, I could move all my stuff to my home server and eliminate the laptop completely...
[20:21:07] <Lucifer_arma> turns out there is an x11 server for android, now I need to get my laptop configured to let me login remotely
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[23:54:36] <Lucifer_arma> well, I failed to get my tablet to login to a full desktop environment on my home server, but I succeeded at getting it to use individual apps from my server.
[23:55:16] <Lucifer_arma> I'll need to test which is the highest performing (and therefore easiest to use), using XDMCP to run LibreOffice, or using VNC to see the whole desktop
[23:55:58] <Lucifer_arma> that's a test I can't really conduct until I have my keyboard, but I can tell you that XFCE4 has some decent touchscreen support, which VNC doesn't have
[23:56:08] <Lucifer_arma> that'll probably be what makes the decision, honestly.

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[03:07:46] <Lucifer_arma> Hi.
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[18:07:12] <Z-Man> Heh. I gave up on inhouse remote desktoping when I noticed that even before I take setup hassle into account, the annoyances of the remote solution are always going to weigh heavier than the annoyance of just going down the eight steps to the PC :)
[18:07:39] <Z-Man> Even if it means I have to return my nerd card.
[18:09:15] <Z-Man> Remote gaming with steam inhouse streaming does work reasonably well, though.
[19:07:38] <Lucifer_arma> I've moved to look at file sync instead, since i do have a native office suite for android.
[19:08:45] <Lucifer_arma> I'm also considering just permanently moving my laptop to my bedroom.
[19:32:33] <Lucifer_arma> Keyboard is here.  :)
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[18:46:24] <Lucifer_arma> Well, in one press conference, our president has put the apocalypse back on track
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[22:14:09] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: I think he's even going to make day turn to night for some
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[19:48:57] <Lucifer_arma> Hmmm.  Is there exactly 52 weeks in a year?
[19:49:04] <Lucifer_arma> ]match 365/7
[19:49:04] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: Error: "match" is not a valid command.
[19:49:09] <Lucifer_arma> ]math 365/7
[19:49:09] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "365/7" in it.  Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.
[19:49:20] <Lucifer_arma> ]calc 365/7
[19:49:20] <ljrbot> Lucifer_arma: 52.1428571429
[19:49:57] <Lucifer_arma> Then, is there a year in which someone who gets paid every other week will receive an extra paycheck?
[19:50:49] <Lucifer_arma> see, if you get paid every other week, then you get 26 paychecks per year, which is two more than you'd get if you were paid twice a month, so there are two months a year when you get three paychecks
[19:51:53] <Lucifer_arma> those two months are almost always the ones with 31 days in them, and it's caused by the fact that only one month has exactly four weeks in it (a multiple of 2, for every other week)
[19:52:37] <Lucifer_arma> since a year isn't exactly 52 weeks, are there enough remaining days that are outside of the 52 week period to allow for a year where you get 27 paychecks?
[21:06:38] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: there is only 1 extra day in that
[21:06:54] <ct|kyle> 2 in a leap year
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[20:37:54] <Lucifer_arma> Today, we've had periods without rain.  :)  The wind is still wild, but it's easing up.  My mother-in-law lost power in her home, though, so Austin is going to share in some of the overall suffering from Harvey.
[20:38:39] <Lucifer_arma> I haven't checked to see where Harvey's at right now, or his current strength, but my gut is telling me we're on the backend of the storm.
[20:39:17] <Lucifer_arma> sinewav: where is your girlfriend?  You said Austin, but what part?
[20:39:44] <sinewav> I don't know which part since she moved into her new place last year.
[20:40:04] <sinewav> The flooding near Houston looks insane.
[20:41:47] <Lucifer_arma> It would be mildly entertaining if she lives near me.  We're right by the intersection of Duval and Research, in NW austin
[20:42:00] <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, Houston got fucked.  They're Waterworld right now.
[20:42:39] <sinewav> Hmm, she mailed me something last month and I didn't think to save her address. I'm stupid. I'll have to ask her.
[20:43:13] <Lucifer_arma> I just want a major intersection.  I know the town pretty well, that should tell me reasonably how close she is.
[20:47:35] <sinewav> she's in 78725
[20:47:53] <Lucifer_arma> zip codes I don't know.  I used to, though.
[20:49:00] <Lucifer_arma> hah, that zip code looks like it was gerrymandered, which makes no sense for a zip code
[20:50:21] <Lucifer_arma> she's out there, east austin.  May not even be in Austin city limits.  Much closer to Harvey than I am, by like 15 miles or so.
[20:50:42] <Lucifer_arma> to the extent that there's a complete opposite part of town to be in from her, I'm in it.
[20:51:47] <sinewav> yeah, off the 183 near farm 969
[20:52:05] <sinewav> she used to live off MKL drive
[20:52:12] <Lucifer_arma> I know that area.  I used to live near it, and worked at a junkyard over there.
[20:52:16] <sinewav> east of 35
[20:52:36] <Lucifer_arma> When I was there, I lived a majjor intersection north of MLK.
[20:52:59] <Lucifer_arma> Pro tip: When you're in a strange city, and someone asks you where something is, tell them it's on MLK.  Every city has an MLK street of some sort.
[20:53:33] <Lucifer_arma> so she's technically off the same highway I am, but on the other side of town, heh.  I'm west of MoPac, she's east of I35.
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[21:41:31] <sinewav> https://www.ventusky.com/?p=29.75;-97.43;6&l=rain-3h&t=20170828/00
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