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Apr 29 13:42:49 2016 <P4> tronner, shell curl -s https://wrtlprnft.net/serverlist/styles.css | grep src
Apr 29 13:42:50 2016 <tronner> P4: src: url(http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/Armagetronad.ttf) format("truetype");
Apr 29 13:43:09 2016 <P4> good that I have Armagetronad.ttf in my system ;)
Apr 29 13:49:23 2016 <theocrite> tronner, shell cat /etc/motd
Apr 29 13:49:30 2016 * theocrite cries in spanish
Apr 29 13:52:35 2016 <P4> tronner, call cat /etc/motd.tcl
Apr 29 13:52:37 2016 <tronner> P4: #!/usr/bin/env tclsh, # MOTD script original? / mod mewbies.com / mod P4, # http://www.mewbies.com/how_to_customize_your_console_login_message_tutorial.htm, # * Variables, set var(user) $env(USER), set var(path) $env(PWD), set var(home) $env(HOME), # * Calculate current system uptime, set uptime [exec -- /usr/bin/cut -d. -f1 /proc/uptime], set up(days) [expr {$uptime/60/60/24}], set up(hours) [expr
Apr 29 13:52:39 2016 <tronner> P4: {$uptime/60/60%24}], set up(mins) [expr {$uptime/60%60}], set up(secs) [expr {$uptime%60}], # * Calculate usage of home directory, set usage [lindex [exec -- /usr/bin/du -ms $var(home)] 0], set usager [lindex [exec -- /bin/df / | grep dev] 4], # * Calculate SSH logins:, set logins [exec -- users | wc -w], set log(c) [lindex $logins 3], # * Calculate processes, set psu [lindex [exec -- ps U (10 more messages)
Apr 29 13:52:41 2016 <P4> :P
Apr 29 13:54:13 2016 <wrtlprnft> P4, tronner: it's been wrtlprnft.net for ages, I lost .ath.cx
Apr 29 13:54:34 2016 <wrtlprnft> oh, it's my fault
Apr 29 13:54:39 2016 <theocrite> Unfair! Revolution!
Apr 29 13:54:50 2016 <P4> oh yea, i was dreaming you are back in charge with ed, Voo, loops and the other :))
Apr 29 13:54:56 2016 * theocrite lost lots of ath.cx years ago too.
Apr 29 13:55:21 2016 <wrtlprnft> tronner, shell curl -s https://wrtlprnft.net/serverlist/styles.css | grep src
Apr 29 13:55:28 2016 <wrtlprnft> aww
Apr 29 13:55:29 2016 <P4> wasn't ath.cx managed by dyndns? it was so geeky, prob even moar than wrtl…
Apr 29 13:55:36 2016 <P4> tronner, shell curl -s https://wrtlprnft.net/serverlist/styles.css | grep src
Apr 29 13:55:38 2016 <tronner> P4: src: url(http://wrtlprnft.net/Armagetronad.ttf) format("truetype");
Apr 29 13:55:39 2016 <theocrite> lel
Apr 29 13:55:43 2016 <P4> <3
Apr 29 13:55:45 2016 <wrtlprnft> yes, but they started sucking
Apr 29 13:56:05 2016 <P4> men use to start sucking when spawn kids…
Apr 29 13:56:25 2016 <theocrite> As far as I remember we had to re-activate domains every 2 months or so, and at some point we couldn't do that anymore without paying, right?
Apr 29 13:56:25 2016 <wrtlprnft> essentially, .ath.cx was only available to paying customers (and they were more expensive than a real domain), but existing registrations remained free
Apr 29 13:56:44 2016 <P4> how come you lost it?
Apr 29 13:56:47 2016 <wrtlprnft> the catch was that you had to log in every month and one time, i was too late
Apr 29 13:56:56 2016 <wrtlprnft> theocrite is pretty much correct
Apr 29 13:57:11 2016 <P4> oh yea, but e-mail notifications helped with the login part
Apr 29 13:57:18 2016 <theocrite> Yeah I think that's what happened to everybody.
Apr 29 13:57:29 2016 <P4> what a pity :/
Apr 29 13:57:32 2016 <wrtlprnft> jup, and one time the mail landed in my spam and I realized it too late
Apr 29 13:57:47 2016 <P4> :P
Apr 29 13:58:07 2016 <wrtlprnft> and it was not like, “oh, let's put the domain on hold but grant a couple of days of grace period for the owner to reclaim it”, it was just gone
Apr 29 13:58:25 2016 <wrtlprnft> it had been a redirection to .net for about a year because i wanted an ssl cert
Apr 29 13:59:01 2016 <theocrite> I was a cool domain for kids, but I don't regret the switch to more professionals registars
Apr 29 14:03:22 2016 <P4> so… can programs still contact you if they had any problems? refering to ,,(shell curl -s https://wrtlprnft.net/ | grep onn) :D
Apr 29 14:03:23 2016 <tronner> P4: <li><a href="http://crazy-tronners.com/">Crazy Tronners</a>—I'm admin on their servers, so if you have any problems contact me.</li>
Apr 29 14:03:40 2016 <P4> no need to reset your PW? :D
Apr 29 14:04:31 2016 <theocrite> P4: $CMD || mails -s "something went wrong" P4@crazy-tronners.com
Apr 29 14:04:57 2016 <P4> .call which mails
Apr 29 14:06:50 2016 <theocrite> mail
Apr 29 14:06:53 2016 <theocrite> not mails
Apr 29 14:08:10 2016 <theocrite> provided by sendmail, qmail, exim, postfix, etc.
Apr 29 14:08:15 2016 <P4> Program mail nie jest obecnie zainstalowany. Możesz go zainstalować wpisując: apt-get install mailutils
Apr 29 14:08:20 2016 <P4> :P
Apr 29 14:08:50 2016 <P4> .fight exim postfix
Apr 29 14:08:51 2016 <tronner> P4: exim: 776000, postfix: 648000
Apr 29 14:09:22 2016 <theocrite> postfix is waaaaaaaay more popular, but exim comes by default under Debian, lot of people stick with it.
Apr 29 14:09:39 2016 <P4> which one is more advanced?
Apr 29 14:10:53 2016 <P4> how are you guys restricting users from inspecting system resources in multi-user environment, e.g. so ps shows only processes you own? talking about debian flavours. and sorry about being off-topic :P
Apr 29 14:12:41 2016 <theocrite> Either a container like lxc. Each user gets his own "fake" server. Some fs might be shared.
Apr 29 14:13:02 2016 <theocrite> Or maybe a restricted shell (like sftp if you only want to drop files, not run shell commands).
Apr 29 14:13:31 2016 <theocrite> Or a real VM (more than just a container), like KVM, XEN etc.
Apr 29 14:13:43 2016 <theocrite> But that's more "overkill" maybe.
Apr 29 14:14:09 2016 <theocrite> With a real shell, someone with enough motivation will always find a way to get these informations.
Apr 29 14:14:19 2016 <P4> nah, i'm talking more about the core linux support for AAA, simple server with base system only but limiting users from looking into other users resources
Apr 29 14:15:03 2016 <theocrite> AAA ?
Apr 29 14:16:34 2016 <P4> Authentication, Authorization and Accounting
Apr 29 14:16:55 2016 <theocrite> Also you can't really limit users accessing resources. You just can set the FS rights the right way (chmod & all), but you can't really prevent anyone from doing a ps or seeing things in /proc (like /proc/mdstat, not that' it's secret).
Apr 29 14:17:15 2016 <P4> oh yes you can
Apr 29 14:17:23 2016 <P4> example @ #openshells
Apr 29 14:17:36 2016 <P4> and this is core functionality of multiuser system
Apr 29 14:17:50 2016 <P4> i just need hints on the keywords to look for :P
Apr 29 14:17:56 2016 <theocrite> Also for the other question, you probably should go with exim if you want just the basic installation, postfix if you intend to do a lot of things with it.
Apr 29 14:18:19 2016 <P4> so postfix seem to be more advanced, right?
Apr 29 14:18:55 2016 <theocrite> I don't know about openshells I'll look into that later. But that seems to confirm what I said "With a real sell, blabla".
Apr 29 14:19:00 2016 <theocrite> I would say so, yes.
Apr 29 14:19:03 2016 <P4> not talking about servig zillion accounts in the cluster but rather the ability to tweaking the service for custom needs
Apr 29 14:19:25 2016 <theocrite> Come to think about it, there is a tool to manage MAC. Something done by the NSA. I can't remember the name.
Apr 29 14:19:31 2016 <theocrite> It's in default in Red Hat now.
Apr 29 14:19:35 2016 <theocrite> Maybe in Debian too.
Apr 29 14:19:46 2016 * theocrite thinks
Apr 29 14:20:07 2016 <theocrite> P4: SELinux might be what you want.
Apr 29 14:20:12 2016 <P4> if you request for an #openshells then you have my vouch obviously :p
Apr 29 14:20:15 2016 <theocrite> But that's a lot of work to get started with it.
Apr 29 14:20:47 2016 <P4> i believe that SELinux is the next step after the basic AAA setup in linux that I am looking for
Apr 29 14:21:02 2016 <theocrite> I'm in a hurry I need to go soon, but I'll see what openshells is, and I'll possibly get back to you (Not promissing anything, I have so many things to remember :) )
Apr 29 14:22:41 2016 <P4> yea, no worries, enjoy! :)
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Apr 29 17:53:33 2016 <wrtlprnft> P4: sorry, I was AFK. That information is probably outdated (but I haven't checked ;-)
Apr 29 17:54:17 2016 <wrtlprnft> is ed still around?
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