Log from 2016-04-06:
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Apr 06 00:08:08 2016 <AmarokNelg> He's gone, oh why, oh why, let's pay the devil to replace him
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Apr 06 14:45:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm on a guitar tab site and I want to print the tab. I highlight everything and press CTRL-C, intending to paste into a Kate document and print it
Apr 06 14:46:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma> the stupid website popped up a dialog saying "You have to be a premium member to access this feature"
Apr 06 14:46:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I said a big ol' fuck you and did a little middle-click
Apr 06 14:46:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma> <3 Linux
Apr 06 14:46:47 2016 * Lucifer_arma <3 Linux
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Apr 06 16:51:39 2016 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: next step just copy the DOM from dev tools
Apr 06 16:51:55 2016 <ct|kyle> (if you would have had to go that far)
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Apr 06 17:02:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I obviously didn't have to go that far :)
Apr 06 17:02:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma> but I've hacked the DOM in Firefox to send a username on a form that wasn't letting me put one in
Apr 06 17:03:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know how I can put a bunch of png files into a PDF in Linux? Also, have to combine it with another PDF
Apr 06 17:03:36 2016 * wrtlprnft (~quassel@46.128.208.100.dynamic.cablesurf.de) has joined #armagetron
Apr 06 17:03:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: !
Apr 06 17:05:37 2016 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i still exist sometimes :-D
Apr 06 17:06:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma> been awhile since I've seen you in here.... que paso?
Apr 06 17:07:31 2016 <wrtlprnft> i'm fine, just have been busy with university and all
Apr 06 17:08:01 2016 <wrtlprnft> just a sec…
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Apr 06 17:08:44 2016 * Lucifer_arma is finishing his taxes
Apr 06 17:08:54 2016 <wrtlprnft> sounds kind of recurring
Apr 06 17:10:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma> it is, heh
Apr 06 17:10:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma> all I need now is the IRS PIN they gave my wife, since she was the victim of identity theft last year
Apr 06 17:10:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you'd be out of university by now. Did you quit for awhile?
Apr 06 17:11:35 2016 <wrtlprnft> almost finished
Apr 06 17:11:58 2016 <wrtlprnft> i didn't quit university, if that's what you're asking
Apr 06 17:14:31 2016 <wrtlprnft> I'd been lurking here under a different nick for a while (probably not too difficult to guess that now), but my IRC client screwed me over just now
Apr 06 17:14:35 2016 <wrtlprnft> oh well :-P
Apr 06 17:17:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I never read the nick list, heh
Apr 06 17:18:04 2016 <wrtlprnft> but joins, apparently
Apr 06 17:18:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma> sorta. Yours caught my attention because it's a name I haven't heard in a long time. A long time.
Apr 06 17:18:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I could search with your hostname and find out your other nick
Apr 06 17:18:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma> but who's got time for that? ;)
Apr 06 17:20:06 2016 * z-man (~quassel@p4FC16EA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron
Apr 06 17:20:20 2016 <wrtlprnft> it's easier than that, but the result would not be very enlightning
Apr 06 17:22:01 2016 <wrtlprnft> so anyways, armagetron development seems to be going slowly as usual, with the occasional douchebags?
Apr 06 17:22:25 2016 <wrtlprnft> and a hostile fork, apparently
Apr 06 17:22:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma> we have a hostile fork now?
Apr 06 17:22:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma> does that mean /dev/null finally forked?
Apr 06 17:23:29 2016 <wrtlprnft> I thought you had a fork or something, presumably dead now
Apr 06 17:24:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma> ah, there was for awhile. Ww forked into Tr2n: Origins, or something like that
Apr 06 17:24:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma> Manta and Destiny split up, I believe, and in the process the whole project melted
Apr 06 17:24:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma> turns out it's a lot harder to keep a project together than it seems at first glance ;)
Apr 06 17:25:38 2016 <wrtlprnft> did that fork include anything useful?
Apr 06 17:26:03 2016 <wrtlprnft> i.e. that could be salvaged instead of being mostly opinion-based stuff?
Apr 06 17:27:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma> Everything I'm aware that fork had was also implemented in the sty/ctf/ap branch, which ct|kyle is supposed to go through it and make a patch for 0.4 at some point
Apr 06 17:27:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma> except they did the brainless breaking of network compatibility without any technical reason whatsoever
Apr 06 17:28:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma> just "my side, your side" stuff
Apr 06 17:28:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma> oddly enough, we added a couple of features to arma just to support that fork, and also the ladle
Apr 06 17:29:02 2016 <wrtlprnft> were there any client changes at all?
Apr 06 17:29:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they had a moviepack selector :)
Apr 06 17:29:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma> that's pretty much the only thing I know they had, heh
Apr 06 17:29:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma> and since I haven't gotten off my butt and made the gzipped resource files like I wanted, I haven't made moviepacks into a resource
Apr 06 17:31:31 2016 <wrtlprnft> why not have every texture, 3D model and whatnot be its own resource?
Apr 06 17:31:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma> there's no reason not to do that, but if that's how a moviepack will be configured, it'll be a pain to change moviepacks
Apr 06 17:32:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma> but I think z-man was intending to do something a little more brutal
Apr 06 17:32:38 2016 <wrtlprnft> I meant with some config file being the root resource that references all the others
Apr 06 17:33:03 2016 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's the reason I remember why moviepack resources never got implemented
Apr 06 17:33:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma> well, that would fall right in line with my dependency dreams, where you'd refer to other resources
Apr 06 17:33:54 2016 <wrtlprnft> honestly, these days, I'd probably want to go the git way: index everything by its hash and be done with it
Apr 06 17:34:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma> heh, ideally, we'd have the ability to refer to files in other resources (or the resource itself, if it's a single file), so you could, say, make a moviepack or cockpit using someone's texture pack
Apr 06 17:34:23 2016 <wrtlprnft> cockpits can already use texture resources
Apr 06 17:34:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I would like to load a resource tree of sorts
Apr 06 17:34:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but if sinewav releases sinewave_texture_pack_1005, and you want to make a cockpit with it, you have to break up the texture pack
Apr 06 17:35:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma> it's not that big of a deal, just something on my wishlist
Apr 06 17:35:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma> since the textures themselves would be the same for every cockpit that wants to use them, you still get the filesystem space-saving goodness
Apr 06 17:35:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma> but then again, when your server disappeared, cockpits using textures you'd hosted on it stopped working
Apr 06 17:36:04 2016 <wrtlprnft> oh
Apr 06 17:36:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma> so there's that ;)
Apr 06 17:36:19 2016 <wrtlprnft> plenty of people should have had the files cached, though
Apr 06 17:36:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I fixed them, since the textures were right there in the source tree
Apr 06 17:36:44 2016 <wrtlprnft> and the server never disappeared, it only changed .ath.cx to .net because I lost control over the stupid dyndns hostname
Apr 06 17:36:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma> it was really a matter of changing the url's referenced and bumping up the version number
Apr 06 17:38:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma> well, this was all still in the trunk, so it's not like we were going to release with bundled cockpits that used a different repository
Apr 06 17:38:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma> honestly, I'd place a distributed repository as much higher priority than making resources capable of supporting multiple files in a gzipped package
Apr 06 17:39:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma> hell, should probably reconsider the gzipping, since it could easily make image and sound files bigger
Apr 06 17:39:19 2016 <wrtlprnft> one semi-interesting thing would be to label resources with metadata
Apr 06 17:39:22 2016 <wrtlprnft> license and such
Apr 06 17:39:37 2016 <wrtlprnft> easy for textfiles, hard for images
Apr 06 17:39:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma> true, but if packed together, heh ;)
Apr 06 17:42:32 2016 * z-man wants to say "OHI wrtlprnft!", but actually rather needs a shower
Apr 06 17:42:44 2016 <wrtlprnft> hi :-)
Apr 06 17:43:13 2016 <z-man> Plus, looking forward to a nice dentist appointment tomorrow. Wisdom teeth.
Apr 06 17:43:40 2016 <z-man> "It may be over in ten minutes", he said.
Apr 06 17:43:51 2016 <wrtlprnft> don't believe him!
Apr 06 17:44:20 2016 <wrtlprnft> having some experince with that, I can say that it definitely sounds nasty
Apr 06 17:44:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma> does that count the 40 minute wait to get in after your scheduled appointment time?
Apr 06 17:44:23 2016 <z-man> Yeah. What he means is that it MAY be over for HIM.
Apr 06 17:44:46 2016 <wrtlprnft> as in, the sound a tooth makes when forced out
Apr 06 17:44:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma> they'll just x-ray it and refer you to an oral surgeon
Apr 06 17:45:00 2016 <z-man> Lucifer_arma: Actually, so far, I did not have to wait a single time with him.
Apr 06 17:46:01 2016 <wrtlprnft> but it definitely doesn't count the time waiting for the local anaesthetisation to set in
Apr 06 17:46:14 2016 <z-man> Yeah.
Apr 06 17:47:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I got lucky, my wisdom teeth grew in just fine and are sitting back there being wise and all
Apr 06 17:47:26 2016 <z-man> Thanks for reminding me of the pain of the syringe going into soft and thin gums.
Apr 06 17:47:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I've had a dentist tell me I should get them removed to avoid cavities and stuff
Apr 06 17:47:53 2016 <z-man> Mine were fine, too, but now they moved back a millimeter or so
Apr 06 17:48:07 2016 <z-man> So now there is a nasty, uncleanable gap between them and the next teeth.
Apr 06 17:48:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma> heh, getting old sucks ;)
Apr 06 17:49:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma> in election news, my nice little script failed to predict the Wisconsin primary :(
Apr 06 17:49:09 2016 <z-man> Mostly. Don't get me started about my knees.
Apr 06 17:49:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma> my knees are in terrible shape, too. Need to ride my bike again.
Apr 06 17:51:01 2016 <z-man> That must suffice for chitchat. Shower time! Night, wrtlprnft and Lucifer_arma.
Apr 06 17:51:57 2016 <wrtlprnft> good night, I'm going to bed myself
Apr 06 17:53:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
Apr 06 17:53:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma> I'll fool around some more, then eat dinner and watch more Buffy ;)
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Apr 06 17:56:12 2016 <AmarokNelg> ]md5
Apr 06 17:56:12 2016 <ljrbot> AmarokNelg: (md5 <text>) -- Returns the md5 hash of a given string. Read http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/faq/3-6-6.html for more information about md5.
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Apr 06 19:44:21 2016 <ct|kyle> !randomteam 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
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