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Feb 01 18:17:52 2016 <ct|kyle>	]randomteam 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
Feb 01 18:17:53 2016 <ljrbot>	ct|kyle: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand160201181751.txt  8, ~bye~14, 2, 1, 11, ~bye~6, ~bye~7, 12, 4, ~bye~10, ~bye~3, 17, 7, ~bye~2, ~bye~11, 9, 16, ~bye~12, ~bye~1, 10, 18, ~bye~4, ~bye~9, 5, 15, ~bye~8, ~bye~5, 14, 3, 6, ~bye~13, 13
Feb 01 18:31:04 2016 <theocrite>	I'm totally waiting for team 3 vs team 6.
Feb 01 18:35:07 2016 <ct|kyle>	theocrite: oh ya
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Log from 2016-02-02:
Feb 02 00:10:51 2016 <Deso>	Hoax_: pep to city? Oo
Feb 02 00:11:28 2016 <Hoax_>	finally confirmed yea
Feb 02 00:14:54 2016 <Deso>	oh you're awake
Feb 02 00:15:07 2016 <Deso>	though I'm not that surprised
Feb 02 00:16:41 2016 <Hoax_>	haha
Feb 02 00:19:43 2016 <Hoax_>	hope he flops
Feb 02 00:20:18 2016 <Hoax_>	but whatever happens at least it'll be interesting
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Feb 02 11:26:06 2016 <Deso>	oops missed this Hoax_ but ya for sure, man city pulling a chelsea next season
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Feb 04 13:41:18 2016 <P4>	sinewav, i hope you don't mind that i uploaded your promotional video to youtube. your server serves the video at 7kBps speed :P @ https://youtu.be/YT1l6kmeD7w
Feb 04 13:41:37 2016 <P4>	let me know if you want me to remove it :)
Feb 04 13:51:36 2016 <sinewav>	P4: Thanks! That reminds me, I need to specify a license on adventuresoftron.com. I will be redesigning that site in the next couple months and will pick a license that allows as much freedom as possible.
Feb 04 13:53:05 2016 <P4>	okay, thanks for that production and a t-shirt! i try to wash it as rare as possible and in hands :D btw. do you know more or less how many of the promo t-shirts are there world-wide? :D
Feb 04 13:56:13 2016 <sinewav>	I printed 18 t-shirts and one prototype (which I am wearing right now!)
Feb 04 13:56:27 2016 <sinewav>	All of them were distributed. I have no more left.
Feb 04 13:57:04 2016 <P4>	okay, greate. so these are really unique :D <3
Feb 04 13:57:13 2016 <P4>	s/te/t/
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Feb 05 06:25:56 2016 *	Now talking on #armagetron
Feb 05 06:25:56 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup
Feb 05 06:25:56 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 06 14:36:54 2016 <aP|Kevin>	hello everyone
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Feb 06 21:11:07 2016 <Overrated>	hmm
Feb 06 21:11:28 2016 <ct|kyle>	oi
Feb 06 21:11:31 2016 <Overrated>	anyone happen to be around? no one's done brackets so i'll get them taken care of if i have a witness
Feb 06 21:11:43 2016 <ct|kyle>	me and sinewav are working on them
Feb 06 21:11:58 2016 <Overrated>	ah, ok. cool :) sorry to bother
Feb 06 21:12:03 2016 <ct|kyle>	but you can help too if you want
Feb 06 21:12:08 2016 <sinewav>	!r
Feb 06 21:12:19 2016 <sinewav>	]r
Feb 06 21:12:19 2016 <ljrbot>	sinewav: Error: "r" is not a valid command.
Feb 06 21:12:19 2016 <ct|kyle>	]r
Feb 06 21:12:21 2016 <ljrbot>	ct|kyle: Error: "r" is not a valid command.
Feb 06 21:12:24 2016 <sinewav>	...
Feb 06 21:12:28 2016 <sinewav>	]roulette
Feb 06 21:12:28 2016 <ljrbot>	sinewav: *click*
Feb 06 21:12:34 2016 <sinewav>	needs an alias...
Feb 06 21:12:47 2016 <sinewav>	What are the best servers, these days?
Feb 06 21:12:53 2016 <sinewav>	We don't rank them anymore.
Feb 06 21:13:43 2016 <Overrated>	well, i feel ct's are hit or miss. i think there were issues last ladle
Feb 06 21:13:59 2016 <Overrated>	and i think compguy's had an issue a ladle or two ago, i don't recall exactly why
Feb 06 21:14:08 2016 <ct|kyle>	I just upgraded the US ones
Feb 06 21:14:10 2016 <sinewav>	I'm thinking zman, then genes, then ct
Feb 06 21:14:18 2016 <Overrated>	but i think we spent most of the time in compguys
Feb 06 21:14:21 2016 <ct|kyle>	prepping for CTWF and sstyball :P
Feb 06 21:14:43 2016 <Overrated>	unfortunately i won't likely be there kyle, saddens me :<
Feb 06 21:15:13 2016 <ct|kyle>	:( noone has singed up for CTWF
Feb 06 21:15:16 2016 <Overrated>	i would be ok with than sinewav, but i think most people get upset with using zman's servers for some reason
Feb 06 21:15:42 2016 <ct|kyle>	z-man has been very active in monitoring his
Feb 06 21:15:43 2016 <Overrated>	sorry kyle :< maybe people will sign up after ladle/need a reminder :P
Feb 06 21:15:59 2016 <ct|kyle>	(posting tomrrow around ladle time)
Feb 06 21:16:32 2016 <sinewav>	who is lord nikon
Feb 06 21:16:51 2016 <Overrated>	the earlier start has completely killed me in terms of being able to show up for anything :<
Feb 06 21:16:54 2016 <Overrated>	i have no idea
Feb 06 21:18:52 2016 <sinewav>	wtf the bracket code is all fucked up.
Feb 06 21:19:00 2016 <sinewav>	I really have my work cut out for me.
Feb 06 21:20:05 2016 <sinewav>	Anyway, I can fix it later. Let's get this over with.
Feb 06 21:20:10 2016 <sinewav>	Please check:
Feb 06 21:20:10 2016 <sinewav>	randomteam CrazyTronners Cataclyzm MonstersUnleashed SuperSmashBros RogueTronners Sparksandfriends WildWest
Feb 06 21:21:20 2016 <sinewav>	hmmm
Feb 06 21:21:26 2016 <ct|kyle>	no SuperSmashBros
Feb 06 21:21:30 2016 <sinewav>	where did that data come from...
Feb 06 21:21:48 2016 <ct|kyle>	and m7m no monsters unleashed
Feb 06 21:22:02 2016 <sinewav>	Holy shit, the teams arre commented out now because people are too lazy?
Feb 06 21:22:12 2016 <ct|kyle>	sinewav: did you  cat /dev/null again?
Feb 06 21:22:16 2016 <sinewav>	This wiki has really gone to shit since I've been gone.
Feb 06 21:22:54 2016 <sinewav>	OK CHECK THIS
Feb 06 21:22:55 2016 <sinewav>	randomteam 1 Cataclyzm mm Sparksandfriends WildWest CrazyTronnersOpenTeam
Feb 06 21:23:01 2016 <sinewav>	-1
Feb 06 21:23:57 2016 <sinewav>	now rogues aren't showing up.. jesus christ.
Feb 06 21:24:05 2016 <sinewav>	guess I have to do it by hand.
Feb 06 21:24:36 2016 <sinewav>	randomteam RogueTronners Cataclyzm mm Sparksandfriends WildWest CrazyTronnersOpenTeam
Feb 06 21:24:44 2016 <ct|kyle>	looks good
Feb 06 21:24:57 2016 <sinewav>	Get ready to fire.
Feb 06 21:25:03 2016 <sinewav>	]randomteam RogueTronners Cataclyzm mm Sparksandfriends WildWest CrazyTronnersOpenTeam
Feb 06 21:25:03 2016 <ct|kyle>	]roulette
Feb 06 21:25:03 2016 <ljrbot>	sinewav: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand160206212502.txt  mm, ~bye~2, Sparksandfriends, WildWest, RogueTronners, Cataclyzm, ~bye~1, CrazyTronnersOpenTeam,
Feb 06 21:25:04 2016 <ljrbot>	ct|kyle: *click*
Feb 06 21:25:08 2016 <sinewav>	Thanks!
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Feb 06 21:35:28 2016 <ct|kyle>	sinewav: shouldent rt have the bye?
Feb 06 21:35:41 2016 <ct|kyle>	i forget if we are seeding or not
Feb 06 21:40:31 2016 <sinewav>	no seeds
Feb 06 21:40:37 2016 <sinewav>	all random
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Feb 06 21:40:49 2016 <ct|kyle>	ok
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Feb 07 02:28:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Well, that was disappointing
Feb 07 02:29:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh good, election news
Feb 07 02:38:04 2016 <Luke-Jr>	?
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Feb 07 03:03:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr: I was hoping for more on the forums, and there was just something in the "bunch of trolls" thread
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Feb 07 09:17:16 2016 <ljrbot>	ct|kyle: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand160207091713.txt  2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 6, 4,
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Feb 07 10:54:05 2016 <P4>	]help randomteam
Feb 07 10:54:05 2016 <ljrbot>	P4: (randomteam <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [concat http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random_2.php?teams=[urlquote $*]]".
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Feb 07 13:02:34 2016 <Word>	sparks need some subs, i think
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Feb 07 13:07:04 2016 <sinewav>	Word I needed to compile a new version of Arma. I lost all my settings. Setting up the game now.
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Feb 07 14:33:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guru3: what's with the forums loading so slowly, and mostly not at all?
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Feb 07 14:46:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	z-man: I'm having trouble connecting to the forums
Feb 07 14:48:28 2016 <z-man>	Tweezy is attacking the forums.
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Feb 07 14:53:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	z-man: ah
Feb 07 14:54:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	shouldn't he be watching the Super Bowl with all the other asshats?
Feb 07 14:54:40 2016 <z-man>	      I know its definitely him because he blackmailed me on my ladle server to get unbanned.
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Feb 07 14:56:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	can he wait until we decide if it's ethical or not to eat beef before attacking?
Feb 07 15:03:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	maybe you guys should have a your website a lot more resistant to attacks
Feb 07 15:06:24 2016 <guru3>	well this doesn't sound good
Feb 07 15:07:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm curious how you'd do that on the shoestring budget we have
Feb 07 15:07:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's not like we can just make 100 mirrors of the forums.  Hell, we don't even have 100 active users.
Feb 07 15:09:25 2016 <guru3>	-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root      21560683 Feb  7 12:08 access.log
Feb 07 15:09:34 2016 <guru3>	-rw-r--r-- 1 guru3 pg1209952   422849 Feb  5 00:35 access.log.2016-02-04.gz
Feb 07 15:09:42 2016 <guru3>	yes, there is definetely something up
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Feb 07 15:12:48 2016 <guru3>	it looks like i could enable cloudfare, Lucifer_arma, z-manuel , what do you think?
Feb 07 15:12:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	sure it's not Trump supporters trying to vote early?
Feb 07 15:12:59 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	what's cloudfare?
Feb 07 15:13:32 2016 <guru3>	it's a proxy/caching service
Feb 07 15:13:47 2016 <guru3>	instead of requests going directly to our webhost, it goes to them
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Feb 07 15:13:58 2016 <guru3>	they then fetch from us if needed
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Feb 07 15:17:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	how well does that work with a website that generates its pages for each page request?
Feb 07 15:17:56 2016 <guru3>	i have no idea really
Feb 07 15:18:21 2016 <guru3>	but i assume it does
Feb 07 15:18:46 2016 <guru3>	https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-tips-using-cloudflare-for-your-for/
Feb 07 15:18:48 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: CloudFlare Tips: Using CloudFlare for your forums (at blog.cloudflare.com)
Feb 07 15:19:11 2016 <guru3>	seems to be supported
Feb 07 15:19:13 2016 <z-man>	Z-manuel is really me
Feb 07 15:19:34 2016 <z-manuel>	My laptop just died last week and I have not yet set up IRC here correctly. GRR.
Feb 07 15:20:01 2016 <z-manuel>	The other account is on crappy phone IRC, so really painful to use.
Feb 07 15:20:21 2016 <z-manuel>	Ayway, yeah, I suppose cloudflare works all right.
Feb 07 15:20:37 2016 <z-manuel>	Trouble is, if he already has the server's real IP, he can just attack that.
Feb 07 15:21:29 2016 <guru3>	the fact thatit's showing up in access.log
Feb 07 15:21:32 2016 <guru3>	means that he's not
Feb 07 15:21:46 2016 <guru3>	or rather, means i find it unlikely
Feb 07 15:21:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	um, how can he even get logged in access.log without having the server's IP?
Feb 07 15:21:54 2016 <guru3>	because that would require some special software to spoof the http headers
Feb 07 15:22:06 2016 <guru3>	because it's a shared webhost
Feb 07 15:22:13 2016 <z-manuel>	Oh, guru3: There's a thread on the forums about adding a trial period to new users so their posts require mod approval :http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24378 Check it out and add your .02$.
Feb 07 15:22:15 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Them Trolls (Split) (at forums3.armagetronad.net)
Feb 07 15:22:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	how easy is it to change the server's IP?  If he's already got it, then changing to cloudfare won't fix it
Feb 07 15:22:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, being able to put old users on probation when they misbehave, as an additional tool to temporary bans
Feb 07 15:23:38 2016 <guru3>	i can't change the server's ip
Feb 07 15:23:43 2016 <guru3>	shared webhost
Feb 07 15:25:13 2016 <guru3>	there's also the fact that i'm in a hotel at a conference at the moment
Feb 07 15:25:22 2016 <guru3>	there's not a lot i can do overall
Feb 07 15:25:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you can keep farting
Feb 07 15:25:38 2016 *	Lucifer_arma is in an odd mood
Feb 07 15:25:46 2016 <guru3>	not sure how that would help the situation, ;)
Feb 07 15:26:06 2016 <guru3>	but i shall bear in mind that not withholding farts may help, and proceed accordingly
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Feb 07 15:28:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	cloudfare looks interesting.  Cost?
Feb 07 15:28:54 2016 <guru3>	free
Feb 07 15:29:04 2016 <guru3>	it's included with the hosting plan
Feb 07 15:29:10 2016 <guru3>	first time i've ever noticed it though
Feb 07 15:29:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	you use dreamhost?
Feb 07 15:29:21 2016 <guru3>	yeah
Feb 07 15:29:25 2016 <AmarokNelg>	is that also free?
Feb 07 15:29:42 2016 <guru3>	no that i pay for with the help of the occaisional donation
Feb 07 15:30:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	there's also a free version of the service.  Do you get the free version with the hosting plan, or the Pro version?
Feb 07 15:31:14 2016 <guru3>	the free version?
Feb 07 15:31:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm not seeing a reason not to try it.  It would definitely be nice to not have to clean up every time some asshat gets their butt hurt and decides to attack the forums
Feb 07 15:31:20 2016 <guru3>	is there a particular need for the pro version?
Feb 07 15:31:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no, I was just wondering which came with the hosting plan
Feb 07 15:31:40 2016 <guru3>	i have no idea which it comes with
Feb 07 15:31:50 2016 <guru3>	it's just a tickbox that says 'enable cloudflare'
Feb 07 15:32:45 2016 <guru3>	apparently the big difference is ssl, which we're not using anyway
Feb 07 15:32:55 2016 <z-manuel>	Well, can't hurt then.
Feb 07 15:33:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it looked like they had ssl in the free version
Feb 07 15:33:27 2016 <guru3>	oh maybe the dreamhost wiki is out of date then
Feb 07 15:33:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	on a slightly different note, I think the next GOP presidential debate should require waterboarding every candidate for every question
Feb 07 15:37:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or we should at least use "advanced interrogation techniques" on Trump every time he lies
Feb 07 15:37:41 2016 <guru3>	onk cloudfare has been enabled
Feb 07 15:37:44 2016 <guru3>	*ok
Feb 07 15:37:58 2016 <guru3>	if it all explodes i\ll next be available in about 12 hours
Feb 07 15:39:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	roger that
Feb 07 15:40:01 2016 <guru3>	hopefully it won't, but yeah
Feb 07 15:42:27 2016 <z-manuel>	Have a fun conference!
Feb 07 15:42:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	hahahahahahahahahaha doubt it
Feb 07 15:42:43 2016 <guru3>	woo
Feb 07 15:42:44 2016 <z-manuel>	Farting should probably be limited to the hotel room.
Feb 07 15:43:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh no, science says holding your farts in decreases your life expectancy
Feb 07 15:43:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	meanwhile, smelling other people's farts does nothing to your life expectancy
Feb 07 15:43:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's why we are still listening to Trump
Feb 07 15:44:15 2016 <guru3>	oh you guys
Feb 07 15:44:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	stick around and we might make a triumvirate vote on public farting
Feb 07 15:44:41 2016 <z-manuel>	Sure that was not just a plot in South Park?
Feb 07 15:44:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	never watched South Park :)
Feb 07 15:45:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	won't this year either, because the GOP primary is so entertaining
Feb 07 15:45:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's the three stooges running for president
Feb 07 15:45:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	does lucifer always joke like this?
Feb 07 15:45:56 2016 <guru3>	it's not out of character i'd say
Feb 07 15:46:13 2016 <guru3>	and now i'm off to breakfast and then the conference, so packing away the laptop
Feb 07 15:46:17 2016 <guru3>	ttyl
Feb 07 15:46:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	later, guru3
Feb 07 15:46:28 2016 <z-manuel>	later
Feb 07 15:47:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's either hang out here and tell bad jokes or kick my kick off the xbox and play my Star Trek game.  I'm in the mood for some mild virtual genociding
Feb 07 15:48:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and there won't be interesting election news until tuesday evening anyway
Feb 07 15:49:25 2016 <z-manuel>	Surely, Trump will say something interesting in the meantime.
Feb 07 15:49:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	doubtful.  I think he's running out of hate.
Feb 07 15:50:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'd like him to win at least one primary so he can give a victory speech where he says "You're fired!"
Feb 07 15:50:44 2016 <z-manuel>	He can do that when he loses; he can fire the entire party that failed to elect him.
Feb 07 15:50:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh
Feb 07 15:51:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	my money's on Rubio this time.  It'll be Rubio v Sanders, and Sanders will clean the floor with Rubio
Feb 07 15:51:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hopefully he'll tap Clinton for veep, so when he dies of natural causes in a couple of years, we'll still get Clinton
Feb 07 15:52:18 2016 <z-manuel>	You say that like you already have natural causes planned.
Feb 07 15:52:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, if I were going to sell my soul to do something to Sanders, it'd be to ensure he wins and serves two terms
Feb 07 15:53:07 2016 *	Lucifer_arma has gotten all caught up on Supernatural
Feb 07 15:53:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	except for season 11
Feb 07 15:53:56 2016 <z-manuel>	's good?
Feb 07 15:54:04 2016 *	z-manuel checks whether it's on amazon prime here
Feb 07 15:54:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	really good.  I have to admit I didn't like their portrayal of Lucifer, but if that's my only complaint, that's saying something
Feb 07 15:55:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we went through firefly in nothing flat and are now on farscape, heh
Feb 07 15:55:49 2016 <z-manuel>	9 seasons are, and in the original version. If only I had time to watch MY TV.
Feb 07 15:56:00 2016 <z-manuel>	It's all My Little Pony and stuff right now.
Feb 07 15:56:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh yeah, the two brothers arguing all the time and breaking up at least once per season gets a bit old
Feb 07 15:56:26 2016 <z-manuel>	On the plus side, Kid's TV is MUUCH better now than Iremember it being back when I was little.
Feb 07 15:56:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hah, I got my kids into star trek as soon as they learned English so I could watch something decent every now and then
Feb 07 15:57:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm not so sure I agree with that, but I've heard Good Things about the new My Little Pony serieses
Feb 07 15:58:21 2016 <z-manuel>	It is pretty darn good.
Feb 07 15:59:51 2016 <z-manuel>	What round is the ladle even in right now? There were never more than two games at once.
Feb 07 16:00:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	honestly, I'm glad my kids are older.  We're not stuck watching Barbie movies every day
Feb 07 16:00:11 2016 <z-manuel>	Guess that comes with 6 teams.
Feb 07 16:00:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	in fact, I haven't seen a barbie movie in 8 years or so
Feb 07 16:00:20 2016 <z-manuel>	We're pre-filtering. Barbie movies are right out.
Feb 07 16:00:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we pre-filtered too, but barbie movies made it through the filter.  Damned grandparents!
Feb 07 16:00:49 2016 <z-manuel>	Of course, then she catches some ad for another show in the post-show commercial block...
Feb 07 16:01:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah, the beauty of not having cable
Feb 07 16:01:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or any form of broadcast tv
Feb 07 16:01:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	nowadays, even piracy isn't so useful what with all the streaming media services
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Feb 07 16:02:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm guessing Z-girl has a likelihood of being scared watching Supernatural
Feb 07 16:03:02 2016 <z-manuel>	We're watching from recorded shows, so in principle, we have everything under control. Just somethimes, something slips through.
Feb 07 16:03:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, I've had that happen too
Feb 07 16:03:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	usually it was in the form of christmas/birthday presents, for which I had very little control
Feb 07 16:03:36 2016 <z-manuel>	So far, she's showing good taste. Worst thing was "Cloe's Closet" where they recycle the same three stolen songs with new lyrics every epiosode.
Feb 07 16:04:28 2016 <z-manuel>	And she likes scary stuff. Maybe not adult scary stuff, though :)
Feb 07 16:04:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	has she started obsessively watching stuff?
Feb 07 16:04:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Finding Nemo five times a day got old, even for that movie, heh
Feb 07 16:05:06 2016 <z-manuel>	We let her watch what she wants while she does her inhalations.
Feb 07 16:05:16 2016 <z-manuel>	And yeah, Frozen about 10 times in a row.
Feb 07 16:05:23 2016 <z-manuel>	not on one day :)
Feb 07 16:05:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh no!  Not Disney's gay story!
Feb 07 16:05:50 2016 *	Lucifer_arma hasn't seen it.  ;)
Feb 07 16:06:35 2016 <z-manuel>	It's not gay, it's feminist. Two female leads who dare to have thoughts on their own.
Feb 07 16:06:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but I've had more than my fill of first person shooters.  Damn teenagers.
Feb 07 16:07:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, I'm familiar with the story.  My oldest gave me the low-down on it.  I just can't bring myself to watch another Pixar movie, after having seen so many
Feb 07 16:07:44 2016 <z-manuel>	I don't think it's Pixar. Plain old main Disney.
Feb 07 16:07:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	besides, my kids don't want me knowing Frozen songs.  I'll regale them with Frozen songs until they're sick of the movie.
Feb 07 16:07:55 2016 <z-manuel>	They do computer animation now, too.
Feb 07 16:08:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	really?  I thought Disney was done with animation and just letting Pixar carry the load
Feb 07 16:08:46 2016 <z-manuel>	I think so. It does not have the Pixar logo at the start, and I think the real ones still do.
Feb 07 16:08:53 2016 *	z-manuel hasn't seen Inside Out yet
Feb 07 16:10:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Up! was the last Pixar movie I saw, and I managed to miss the one about the fat humans and the droids that work for them
Feb 07 16:10:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	WALL-E, that's it.  ;)
Feb 07 16:13:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	do we have a test to determine what animals are sentient?  Or are we still debating what sentience is?
Feb 07 16:14:11 2016 <z-manuel>	We have the mirror test.
Feb 07 16:14:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's recognizing that the being in the mirror is you, right?
Feb 07 16:14:30 2016 <z-manuel>	Usually, paint a doton their forehead, place them in front of a mirrror.
Feb 07 16:14:46 2016 <z-manuel>	If they notice THEY have the dot and clean it, we know they have something.
Feb 07 16:15:01 2016 <z-manuel>	That test failed for pigs, suprisingly.
Feb 07 16:15:15 2016 <z-manuel>	Even though later tests revealed that they do recognize themselves.
Feb 07 16:15:29 2016 <z-manuel>	They just don't care about dirt in their faces.
Feb 07 16:15:59 2016 <z-manuel>	But anyway, that's not full sentience. I guess nobody has really defined what that really means.
Feb 07 16:16:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah.  That wouldn't work on cats, they'd notice the dot being painted and scratch you
Feb 07 16:17:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, there's an interesting ethical question raised by Light.  If current food animals are sentient, then obviously we can't eat them.  But would that turn into them being able to consent to sexual relations with humans?
Feb 07 16:17:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or is inter-species sex always wrong, and Spock is a freak born of original sin?
Feb 07 16:17:35 2016 <z-manuel>	Either you can eat it or you can fuck it, I say.
Feb 07 16:17:46 2016 <z-manuel>	EXCEPT FOR KIDS.
Feb 07 16:17:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hahahaha
Feb 07 16:23:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	my kids are animals.  They'd eat sentient beings, except for people.
Feb 07 16:23:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	where have I gone wrong?  Was it too much Star Trek?
Feb 07 16:23:55 2016 <AmarokNelg>	so are the forums being cached right now?
Feb 07 16:40:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	dunno.  They're hit and miss slow for me right now.
Feb 07 16:42:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's on cloudflare now, I just got an error page about it
Feb 07 16:53:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
Feb 07 16:53:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	dbdbot: ping
Feb 07 16:53:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ljrbot: ping
Feb 07 16:53:56 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 07 16:53:57 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 07 16:53:57 2016 <dbdbot>	pong
Feb 07 17:03:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ljrbot: ping
Feb 07 17:03:11 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 07 17:05:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	my oldest just explained what irl means.  I about roflmao'd all over the place
Feb 07 17:09:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ljrbot: ping
Feb 07 17:09:24 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 07 17:19:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guru3: forums are broke now
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Feb 07 18:22:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Not Found
Feb 07 18:22:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	The requested URL / was not found on this server.
Feb 07 18:22:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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Feb 07 18:43:34 2016 <Monkey__>	I'm guessing that people already know that the forums are down? If so, anyone know what happened to them?
Feb 07 18:43:40 2016 <Monkey__>	ddosers?
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Feb 07 18:49:24 2016 <ct|kyle>	Monkey__: at first yes, but now because of a change
Feb 07 18:50:57 2016 <Monkey__>	ok, thanks for the reply ct|kyle... so what change is happening ?
Feb 07 18:56:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	Monkey__: they enabled cloudfare
Feb 07 18:57:02 2016 *	Monkey__ googles cloudfare
Feb 07 18:57:39 2016 <ct|kyle>	and guru3 will be back in 8 around hours to fix it
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Feb 07 19:01:31 2016 <Monkey__>	looks good, hopefully that will keep the annoying script kiddies at bay
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Feb 07 19:48:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@ Monkey__ 
Feb 07 19:48:17 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: "Monkey__" is not a valid command.
Feb 07 19:48:19 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!google cloudfare
Feb 07 19:48:22 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: <https://www.cloudflare.com/> - CloudFlare | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company
Feb 07 19:48:22 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: CloudFlare | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company (at www.cloudflare.com)
Feb 07 19:48:46 2016 <Monkey__>	ok thx :P
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Feb 07 20:01:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	considering the forums were under attack, the possibility exists the attacker got in and did some serious damage
Feb 07 20:02:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the error page when cloudflare wasn't able to reach the forums is different than the "there is no website here" error pages we're getting now
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Feb 07 20:19:22 2016 <Ratchett>	okay so
Feb 07 20:19:33 2016 <Ratchett>	is my computer being dumb or is the site down?
Feb 07 20:19:58 2016 <Ratchett>	ct|kyle, dlh Hoax guru3 Lucifer_arma Monkey__ sinewav
Feb 07 20:20:24 2016 <Ratchett>	I'm getting a 404 error on the forums and the main domain :/
Feb 07 20:20:42 2016 <Monkey__>	Ratchett its down due to an attacker but theyre fixing it and getting ddos protection too
Feb 07 20:20:44 2016 <Hoax>	down
Feb 07 20:20:55 2016 <Ratchett>	fml, okay thanks
Feb 07 20:21:06 2016 <Monkey__>	hey btw :)
Feb 07 20:21:15 2016 <Ratchett>	hi :) watching super bowl lol
Feb 07 20:21:22 2016 <Monkey__>	i guessed so
Feb 07 20:21:26 2016 <Ratchett>	was working on a school assignment and figured I'd check the forums
Feb 07 20:21:31 2016 <Ratchett>	and then I was sad
Feb 07 20:21:35 2016 <Ratchett>	how long have they been down?
Feb 07 20:21:35 2016 <Monkey__>	:\
Feb 07 20:21:39 2016 <Monkey__>	i dont know
Feb 07 20:21:41 2016 <Ratchett>	ah
Feb 07 20:21:54 2016 <Ratchett>	well, how have you been??
Feb 07 20:22:29 2016 <Monkey__>	im ok thx, u?
Feb 07 20:22:45 2016 <Ratchett>	pretty good. stressed and busy but good :)
Feb 07 20:22:52 2016 <Monkey__>	hows the course?
Feb 07 20:23:35 2016 <Ratchett>	going great, except for one class that I'm annoyed with
Feb 07 20:24:01 2016 <Monkey__>	which is?
Feb 07 20:24:03 2016 <Ratchett>	a microelectronics course that focuses on bipolar junction transistors and the like; my teacher is incredibly poor at stimulating interest
Feb 07 20:24:20 2016 <Ratchett>	and the analysis of them in circuits is less than thrilling
Feb 07 20:24:26 2016 <Monkey__>	:\
Feb 07 20:24:36 2016 <Monkey__>	i think teachers can make the difference
Feb 07 20:24:40 2016 <Ratchett>	very much so
Feb 07 20:25:17 2016 <Ratchett>	I think the class would be interesting with a different professor. a more "readable" textbook would greatly improve my outlook as well
Feb 07 20:25:24 2016 <Ratchett>	but, I can't change it, so I have to adapt haha
Feb 07 20:25:34 2016 <Monkey__>	bad book + bad teacher = fail
Feb 07 20:25:48 2016 <Monkey__>	i know the feeling
Feb 07 20:25:54 2016 <Ratchett>	yup! it's the first engineering exam I've failed lol
Feb 07 20:25:57 2016 <Ratchett>	I'm a 3.8 student
Feb 07 20:26:25 2016 <Ratchett>	I'll survive; I'll probably still get a B in the class. I just have to put more time towards it
Feb 07 20:26:40 2016 <Monkey__>	yeah
Feb 07 20:27:03 2016 <Ratchett>	only a year left. I'm pretty excited about that. I'm nearly done with my Junior year
Feb 07 20:27:19 2016 <Ratchett>	only one quarter left :p
Feb 07 20:27:31 2016 <Monkey__>	nice. are you going to do any further study after that or go into work?
Feb 07 20:28:02 2016 <Ratchett>	I'm looking to go into work. I plan on taking the Fundamentals of Engineering and the Professional Engineering exams to become a PE
Feb 07 20:28:22 2016 <Monkey__>	PE = professional engineer?
Feb 07 20:28:24 2016 <Ratchett>	yup
Feb 07 20:28:37 2016 <Monkey__>	good luck man
Feb 07 20:28:52 2016 <Ratchett>	even if you have an engineering degree, you're not properly recognized until you become a PE
Feb 07 20:29:04 2016 <Ratchett>	thanks! it's a big goal of mine haha
Feb 07 20:29:26 2016 <Monkey__>	i didnt know that. here in the UK i dont think we have that ...although i wouldnt really know because i did computer science/software engineering
Feb 07 20:29:53 2016 <Ratchett>	yeah; I'm not certain about that
Feb 07 20:30:05 2016 <Ratchett>	the purpose of becoming a PE is more geared towards construction companies anyways
Feb 07 20:30:09 2016 <Monkey__>	right
Feb 07 20:30:16 2016 <Ratchett>	you can't "stamp" drawings unless you're a PE
Feb 07 20:30:24 2016 <Monkey__>	ah ok
Feb 07 20:30:55 2016 <Ratchett>	essentially, the person who stamps it is responsible for ensuring the construction document conforms to all standards
Feb 07 20:31:41 2016 <Monkey__>	so its serious shiz
Feb 07 20:32:10 2016 <Ratchett>	to some people it doesn't matter, but it's something I'd like to add to my resume haha
Feb 07 20:32:31 2016 <Ratchett>	it demands a bit more respect, especially with regards to pay
Feb 07 20:32:56 2016 <Monkey__>	when u say construction, you mean construction of computer hardware or? IIRC you were doing Electronic Engineering or is my memory bad?
Feb 07 20:33:18 2016 <Ratchett>	I'm doing EE :)
Feb 07 20:33:27 2016 <Monkey__>	thought so :P
Feb 07 20:33:45 2016 <Ratchett>	I'm sure some IC manufacturing requires stamped drawings, I'm not certain though.
Feb 07 20:33:52 2016 <Ratchett>	as far as EE's go, it's mostly substation design
Feb 07 20:34:01 2016 <Ratchett>	and the associated electrical drawings
Feb 07 20:34:24 2016 <Ratchett>	EE's who specialize in power distribution mostly need PE certification
Feb 07 20:35:02 2016 <Monkey__>	what is substation design?
Feb 07 20:35:45 2016 <Ratchett>	https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/electric_power/images/substation_energy_flow.jpg
Feb 07 20:35:49 2016 <Ratchett>	the design of those lol
Feb 07 20:36:27 2016 <Ratchett>	taking high voltage, low current lines and transforming it into usable voltage, medium current lines
Feb 07 20:36:48 2016 <Ratchett>	generally, electricity is transmitted at mega high voltages, more than 300kV
Feb 07 20:37:13 2016 <Ratchett>	the purpose being: less current means less power loss in the transmission wires
Feb 07 20:37:26 2016 <Monkey__>	oh so EE is electrical engineering not electronic or?
Feb 07 20:37:47 2016 <Ratchett>	Electrical Engineering is both, and more
Feb 07 20:38:05 2016 <Monkey__>	ah ok
Feb 07 20:38:11 2016 <Ratchett>	you can choose to specialize in power, electronics, or communications at my university
Feb 07 20:38:28 2016 <Ratchett>	electronics also falls under the umbrella of "controls"
Feb 07 20:38:38 2016 <Ratchett>	which is what I intend to specialize in
Feb 07 20:39:03 2016 <Monkey__>	how can you specialize in controls when it's an umbrella term?
Feb 07 20:39:11 2016 <Ratchett>	lol
Feb 07 20:39:14 2016 <Monkey__>	:P
Feb 07 20:40:18 2016 <Ratchett>	it's incredibly difficult to offer everything EE has to offer in school haha
Feb 07 20:40:46 2016 <Ratchett>	with a specialization in controls, I can still work with IC's, microprocessors, PLC/DCSs, etc
Feb 07 20:41:08 2016 <Ratchett>	I want to do factory/plant automation
Feb 07 20:41:12 2016 <Ratchett>	I like programming
Feb 07 20:41:32 2016 <Monkey__>	what languages have you learnt?
Feb 07 20:41:38 2016 <Ratchett>	this summer I'm going to be working with Albemarle in their EE/ChemE department doing PLCs
Feb 07 20:42:05 2016 <Ratchett>	I have never had a course or proper teaching in programming
Feb 07 20:42:11 2016 <Monkey__>	meh, i
Feb 07 20:42:20 2016 <Monkey__>	im mostly self taught too
Feb 07 20:42:23 2016 <Ratchett>	I've learned C/C++ and C# on my own
Feb 07 20:42:28 2016 <Monkey__>	me too lol
Feb 07 20:42:30 2016 <Ratchett>	my favorite is C#
Feb 07 20:42:41 2016 <Monkey__>	but but...microsoft ...
Feb 07 20:42:42 2016 <Ratchett>	lol
Feb 07 20:42:44 2016 <Monkey__>	:)
Feb 07 20:42:52 2016 <Ratchett>	I know, I just like how intuitive the language is
Feb 07 20:43:01 2016 <Monkey__>	ive actually heard its quite good
Feb 07 20:43:06 2016 <Monkey__>	its supposed to be like java but better
Feb 07 20:43:26 2016 <Monkey__>	im currently learning C on my own accord
Feb 07 20:43:33 2016 <Ratchett>	even if I'm working with something I've never heard of, I can usually figure out how to use it because of how streamlined the language is
Feb 07 20:43:42 2016 <Ratchett>	it's just... easy to learn as you go
Feb 07 20:43:50 2016 <Monkey__>	right
Feb 07 20:44:09 2016 <Ratchett>	I have used C a bit in my microprocessors class
Feb 07 20:44:25 2016 <Ratchett>	it's similar to C#, of course
Feb 07 20:44:40 2016 <Monkey__>	yes
Feb 07 20:45:08 2016 <Ratchett>	I've also done a small amount of FPGA programming in Verilog
Feb 07 20:45:15 2016 <Ratchett>	that was an interesting language
Feb 07 20:45:17 2016 <Monkey__>	verilog OO
Feb 07 20:45:23 2016 <Monkey__>	ive used prolog
Feb 07 20:45:32 2016 <Ratchett>	never heard of that lol
Feb 07 20:45:42 2016 <Monkey__>	ive never heard of verilog so we're even
Feb 07 20:45:47 2016 <Ratchett>	hahaha
Feb 07 20:46:09 2016 <Ratchett>	do you know the difference between structural programming and behavioral programming?
Feb 07 20:46:45 2016 <Monkey__>	i know structural but im not too sure about behavioural..i think it rings a bell but i dont recall what it means
Feb 07 20:47:39 2016 <Ratchett>	in the FPGA world: structural is programming using wires and gates
Feb 07 20:47:48 2016 <Ratchett>	logic gates, that is
Feb 07 20:48:09 2016 <Ratchett>	X = Y^(A|B)
Feb 07 20:48:10 2016 <Ratchett>	etc
Feb 07 20:48:15 2016 <Monkey__>	yes ok
Feb 07 20:48:16 2016 <Ratchett>	it's continuous
Feb 07 20:48:18 2016 <Monkey__>	right
Feb 07 20:48:31 2016 <Ratchett>	and behavioral is traditional programming, executing in a loop
Feb 07 20:48:43 2016 <Ratchett>	well, what I consider traditional programming lol
Feb 07 20:49:12 2016 <Monkey__>	yeah i was gonna say that in comp science, i would consider "structural programming" as traditional
Feb 07 20:49:13 2016 <Ratchett>	you set triggers to look for and develop code that happens when that trigger is hit
Feb 07 20:49:15 2016 <Ratchett>	like an interrupt
Feb 07 20:49:28 2016 <Monkey__>	ok
Feb 07 20:49:28 2016 <Ratchett>	interesting
Feb 07 20:49:38 2016 <Ratchett>	I didn't know people used that a whole lot :p
Feb 07 20:50:19 2016 <Monkey__>	its not just about logical operations in comp science
Feb 07 20:50:34 2016 <Monkey__>	structural has a slightly different meaning i guess
Feb 07 20:50:39 2016 <Ratchett>	sure
Feb 07 20:51:28 2016 <Ratchett>	what do you do in your employment?
Feb 07 20:52:12 2016 <Monkey__>	i work in a shop
Feb 07 20:52:15 2016 <Monkey__>	haha
Feb 07 20:52:18 2016 <Ratchett>	lol
Feb 07 20:52:24 2016 <Ratchett>	what kindof shop :P
Feb 07 20:52:24 2016 <Monkey__>	but im going to change that
Feb 07 20:52:27 2016 <Ratchett>	not using your degree?
Feb 07 20:52:28 2016 <ct|kyle>	Ratchett: I've only ise structural once, that was programming a PLD in high school
Feb 07 20:52:40 2016 <Monkey__>	we sell clothes, bric-a-brac and stuff
Feb 07 20:52:47 2016 <Ratchett>	ah, lol
Feb 07 20:52:49 2016 <Ratchett>	interesting Kyle
Feb 07 20:52:57 2016 <Ratchett>	it was a fun experience
Feb 07 20:53:08 2016 <Ratchett>	what are you going to do about it, monkey?
Feb 07 20:53:10 2016 <Monkey__>	yeah im not using my degree at all
Feb 07 20:53:39 2016 <Monkey__>	im either gonna get into software development or have my own business in the food industry
Feb 07 20:53:42 2016 <ct|kyle>	Monkey__: maybe it's because BSD is slowing you down?
Feb 07 20:53:47 2016 <Monkey__>	lmao kyle
Feb 07 20:54:14 2016 <Monkey__>	in 10 years time I'll remind you of that statement
Feb 07 20:54:17 2016 <Ratchett>	lol
Feb 07 20:54:20 2016 <Monkey__>	:P
Feb 07 20:54:34 2016 <Ratchett>	food industry?
Feb 07 20:54:37 2016 <Ratchett>	I like the sound of htat
Feb 07 20:54:38 2016 <Ratchett>	that*
Feb 07 20:54:44 2016 <Monkey__>	yeah ive been a cook/chef
Feb 07 20:54:57 2016 <ct|kyle>	Monkey__: https://xkcd.com/1508/
Feb 07 20:54:58 2016 <Ratchett>	I love cooking
Feb 07 20:54:58 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: xkcd: Operating Systems (at xkcd.com)
Feb 07 20:55:00 2016 <Monkey__>	and im very self taught in that too
Feb 07 20:55:11 2016 <Ratchett>	lol I'm from a cajun family
Feb 07 20:55:20 2016 <Ratchett>	my grandmother cooks some amazing food
Feb 07 20:55:21 2016 <Monkey__>	i like cajun flavours
Feb 07 20:55:26 2016 <Ratchett>	I've always wanted to cook as good has her
Feb 07 20:55:26 2016 <ct|kyle>	I'm done Ext.js and Yii at work
Feb 07 20:55:31 2016 <ct|kyle>	doning*
Feb 07 20:56:44 2016 <Monkey__>	GNU hurd LOL
Feb 07 20:56:48 2016 <Ratchett>	best of luck in your endeavors, monkey! I'm actually gonna go fix me something to eat haha
Feb 07 20:56:55 2016 <Ratchett>	good to see you, and you too Kyle
Feb 07 20:57:02 2016 <ct|kyle>	remember to add sugar to taste
Feb 07 20:57:05 2016 <Monkey__>	yeah see ya ratchett
Feb 07 20:57:11 2016 <ct|kyle>	https://xkcd.com
Feb 07 20:57:12 2016 <Ratchett>	I wish you both the best! I hope the forums come back up soon..
Feb 07 20:57:13 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: xkcd: To Taste (at xkcd.com)
Feb 07 20:57:17 2016 <Ratchett>	later :)
Feb 07 20:57:21 2016 <ct|kyle>	see you
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Feb 07 20:57:30 2016 <Monkey__>	what os do you use kyle?
Feb 07 20:57:39 2016 <ct|kyle>	Monkey__: gentoo
Feb 07 20:57:44 2016 <Monkey__>	:\
Feb 07 20:57:53 2016 <ct|kyle>	fedora, debian, ubuntu
Feb 07 20:57:55 2016 <Monkey__>	are you done compiling yet?
Feb 07 20:58:07 2016 <ct|kyle>	all of those for one reason or another :P
Feb 07 20:58:14 2016 <Monkey__>	i used to use debian (5 years) then slackware (3 years)
Feb 07 20:58:22 2016 <ct|kyle>	Monkey__: I save upgrades for cold nights :P
Feb 07 20:58:26 2016 <Monkey__>	 haha
Feb 07 21:48:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	guru3: are you back around yet?
Feb 07 22:00:06 2016 <Monkey__>	gn
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Feb 08 00:04:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	*knock knock*
Feb 08 00:04:25 2016 <AmarokNelg>	how are the forums doing?
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Feb 08 00:53:08 2016 <boink__>	i had a flash of a couple of years back when I used to play it a lot and ended up here
Feb 08 00:53:18 2016 <boink__>	happy to see there is still a community around it
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Feb 08 15:50:23 2016 <guru3>	if there are anymore problems with the forums, let me know ASAP please
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Feb 08 15:50:45 2016 <guru3>	Lucifer_arma: poke
Feb 08 15:51:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guru3: peek
Feb 08 15:51:17 2016 <guru3>	good, you're here
Feb 08 15:51:21 2016 <guru3>	pm please
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Feb 08 16:31:53 2016 <z-man>	Pong.
Feb 08 16:31:59 2016 <z-man>	Forums strill borked?
Feb 08 16:32:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	good, you're here ;)
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Feb 08 19:02:41 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup
Feb 08 19:02:41 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
Feb 08 19:44:06 2016 <Lightron>	So, is the downtime now from attacks or cloud issues?
Feb 08 19:48:35 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lightron: I think attacks, but i pmed guru3, just in case
Feb 08 19:50:16 2016 <Lightron>	I messaged him earlier when it first seemed to start again, but dunno if he's around.
Feb 08 19:50:47 2016 <ct|kyle>	it's working now
Feb 08 19:52:51 2016 <Lightron>	It's working off and on.
Feb 08 19:53:27 2016 <Lightron>	Hopefully his new setup makes a difference.
Feb 08 19:58:26 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lightron: I think that may have been reverted because of the other problems it caused
Feb 08 19:59:45 2016 <Lightron>	I guess we'll see where he decides to go with it.  Simply blocking with iptables seems to do wonders for me.  I find it odd they can even make a dent on any real network, unless it's just using too many server resources.
Feb 08 20:00:05 2016 <Lightron>	Anyways, I'm gonna go watch a show.  Have a good night ct|kyle
Feb 08 20:16:18 2016 <guru3>	were still being ddosed, but i dont have time to sort it properly so the fprums are disabled again
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Feb 08 20:23:57 2016 <Misery_>	Is anyone else having an issue with the forums? I'm getting 404
Feb 08 20:44:50 2016 <ct|kyle>	Misery_: down because og DDoS
Feb 08 20:44:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	of*
Feb 08 20:55:28 2016 <Misery_>	Oh... ok. Wasn't sure if it was just me. Thanks. :)
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Feb 09 03:49:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Bernie's winning!  :)
Feb 09 03:50:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	out of like 40 votes or so
Feb 09 03:50:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	in New Hamster
Feb 09 04:11:28 2016 <theocrite>	Unfortunately, if Bernie wins, then the republican candidate will propably be elected.
Feb 09 04:12:43 2016 <theocrite>	USA is not ready.
Feb 09 04:20:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	All the polls show Bernie beating the republicans easily
Feb 09 04:20:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Clinton loses to Cruz, Bernie wins narrowly
Feb 09 04:20:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we're ready for Bernie.  Hell, we've had 8 years of Obama, and he's not even a socialist
Feb 09 04:20:53 2016 *	Lucifer_arma thinks Obama has been a really great president
Feb 09 04:21:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	not sure how Bernie compares to Rubio, and the way things are going, I really think it's going to be either Rubio or Christie that wins the nomination
Feb 09 04:22:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but I don't think either of them have the ground game needed in each state
Feb 09 04:23:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Clinton fucked that up during the last primary she contested, and she went into this one with the same "just crown me now" attitude she had last time
Feb 09 04:23:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Bernie will clean the floor with his GOP opponents.  He just has to get past Clinton.
Feb 09 04:24:16 2016 <theocrite>	Well I hope you're right. About "he's not even a socialist", that's the point. USA is very afraid of socialism. Every time I speak to someone in the US I hear things like "I don't want to give my money to lazy people" "communism doesn't work".
Feb 09 04:24:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and I'm sorry Hillary's run against such better candidates.  I would love to vote for her, and if she wins the nomination, I will vote for her
Feb 09 04:24:29 2016 <theocrite>	I don't think a lot of people really understand socialism.
Feb 09 04:24:38 2016 <theocrite>	But maybe I don't speak to the right people.
Feb 09 04:24:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	a lot of people understand Bernie's message.  He's a democratic socialist, aka a European socialist.
Feb 09 04:25:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Which isn't helpful, I realize
Feb 09 04:25:30 2016 <theocrite>	Offtopic: Are you using emacs/ERC?
Feb 09 04:25:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm in the middle of Texas, a notoriously conservative state.  But I'm in the capitol, a notoriously liberal place.  And I haven't yet met a Clinton supporter
Feb 09 04:25:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	dunno what ERC is, don't use emacs
Feb 09 04:26:29 2016 <theocrite>	It's just that you end your sentences with a '.' and then you use 2 whitespace. Exactly like some people using Emacs.
Feb 09 04:26:31 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I fist-bumped a Bernie supporter earlier when I was checking my kid into a mental hospital (whose bills would be paid by the state if Bernie gets elected)
Feb 09 04:26:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	That's American typography.  We're taught to end sentences with a "." and then two spaces.
Feb 09 04:27:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's part of the curriculum.  That's why HTML is so weird to us.
Feb 09 04:27:50 2016 <theocrite>	Oh I see.
Feb 09 04:28:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you have to differentiate between me saying "This is Dr. Blah PhD. who will be handling your case" and "This is Dr Blah PhD.  He will be handling your case."
Feb 09 04:28:27 2016 <theocrite>	My French friends using Emacs are using that double spaces rule. Maybe it's because it's in Emacs, maybe not.
Feb 09 04:28:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or so we're told.  heh.
Feb 09 04:28:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I wouldn't know anything about Emacs, other than it's the reason GNU never got a real kernel.
Feb 09 04:29:05 2016 <theocrite>	Emacs is the reason for that?
Feb 09 04:29:08 2016 <theocrite>	oO
Feb 09 04:29:10 2016 <theocrite>	How so?
Feb 09 04:29:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	See, Linus Torvalds turned a terminal program into a kernel.  GNU had a word processor.  Obvious problem there!
Feb 09 04:29:32 2016 *	Lucifer_arma make a joke, ha-ha!
Feb 09 04:29:59 2016 <theocrite>	:)
Feb 09 04:30:13 2016 <theocrite>	Yeah, who needs a kernel when you already have a full OS.
Feb 09 04:30:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	then the individualists at GNU decided to name their kernel "HURD".  OOOOoooopsssssssieeeeesssssss!
Feb 09 04:31:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	THEN they made it a "microkernel".  Um, Linux has a bigger dick?
Feb 09 04:31:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I could go on about how GNU fucked up on their kernel.  You got me started, let me stop now, please.  ;)
Feb 09 04:32:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	getting back to the election, Trump ain't gonna win shit.  He talks a big game, but he doesn't have enough support from enough people.  He has enough to show well in the polls, but Cruz, Rubio, and Christie will eat at his numbers
Feb 09 04:33:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Of those, Christie is the most liked establishment candidate.
Feb 09 04:33:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	We might see the GOP finally lose its shit and break off into two parties, which I would like, because that would ensure either Bernie or Hillary wins, and I'll take either
Feb 09 04:33:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but I'm for Bernie
Feb 09 04:33:45 2016 <theocrite>	I don't think he can win either, unfortunately. I think it would have been funny if he won. Sometimes, having the worst helps being vaccinated (I'm not sure about that word) for a while.
Feb 09 04:34:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I was for Obama when he "couldn't win" in 2007, and I had loads of people tell me I was a moron for that
Feb 09 04:34:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	WELL WHO'S COUNTING NOW????  :)
Feb 09 04:34:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Trump can't win.  He might be able to win the nomination, but he can't win the general election.  Not against the players that are competing on the other side.
Feb 09 04:35:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and it wouldn't be funny if he won.  I'm thinking nuclear holocaust if he wins.  He's fucking evil.
Feb 09 04:35:40 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	You might find him scary, just try being an American who gives a shit and looking at him.  He's going to take the world out.
Feb 09 04:37:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	He won't just torture people.  He'll look at our weapons situation and say "Hey, we got tactical nukes?  They violate treaties?  I don't care!  Use them!"
Feb 09 04:37:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm sure you can guess what Russia would do about that.  Then, nuclear winter for all of us.
Feb 09 04:37:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	That's a Trump presidency.
Feb 09 04:37:25 2016 <theocrite>	Nah, he uses his big mouth to provoke. But I don't think he would do so much. Or can (cause of the congress & all, he cannot do everything). But again I'm not from the USA, so I might be wrong about how things work there.
Feb 09 04:37:44 2016 <theocrite>	So I guess the best configuration would be Bernie vs Trump?
Feb 09 04:37:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	he's commander-in-chief, if he wins.
Feb 09 04:38:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'd love to see a Bernie vs Trump election, but I'd really like to see the GOP get their shit together and nominate Christie.
Feb 09 04:38:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	He's reasonably moderate, I might even vote for him, and it says bad things if they nominate Trump, Cruz, or Rubio.
Feb 09 04:38:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Bush isn't even tracking.  He'll have better luck in a different election year, like 2004, for example.
Feb 09 04:38:57 2016 <theocrite>	What about Ted Bush?
Feb 09 04:39:03 2016 <theocrite>	Heh.
Feb 09 04:39:23 2016 <theocrite>	You already elected 2, why not a 3rd? :)
Feb 09 04:39:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	The GOP's coming apart at the seems.  The problem is that the Democrats are also coming apart.
Feb 09 04:39:45 2016 <Luke-Jr>	only supporting someone pro-life
Feb 09 04:39:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Um, I think that question answers itself
Feb 09 04:40:23 2016 <Luke-Jr>	wish Rand didn't give up
Feb 09 04:40:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr is a single issue voter.  Doesn't care about nuclear holocaust or anything like that.  Just that we ensure that babies that are conceived are protected, and we slaughter black men in prison
Feb 09 04:40:45 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: the other issues can wait 4 years
Feb 09 04:41:01 2016 <Luke-Jr>	once we have babykillers being prosecuted, we can move on
Feb 09 04:41:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr: which issues?  The genocide of black people that's currently happening?  That can wait?
Feb 09 04:41:22 2016 <Luke-Jr>	the genocide of black people is mostly pre-born
Feb 09 04:41:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no, it's all on death row
Feb 09 04:41:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	theocrite: great, now Luke-Jr is here.  Ready for an epic argument?
Feb 09 04:42:08 2016 <theocrite>	Not ready I'm about to leave to go to work.
Feb 09 04:42:14 2016 <Luke-Jr>	death row is tiny compared to the slaughter of the unborn
Feb 09 04:42:15 2016 <theocrite>	s/ready/really/
Feb 09 04:42:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	right, slaughtering innocent people in the name of justice is somehow less than aborting a fetus that would otherwise grow up to be someone on death row
Feb 09 04:43:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you know the difference between preventive maintenance and repair, right?
Feb 09 04:43:20 2016 <Luke-Jr>	the people are death row aren't innocent
Feb 09 04:43:25 2016 <Luke-Jr>	the unborn actually are
Feb 09 04:43:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	(don't worry, I'm not going to hang in here too long either)
Feb 09 04:43:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	um, based on various numbers, up to 25% AT LEAST of people on death row ARE INNOCENT
Feb 09 04:44:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I don't see you running out there to stop their deaths
Feb 09 04:44:10 2016 <Luke-Jr>	even if some races get away with crimes more often (which I'm not necessarily conceding), that doesn't make those caught any less guilty.
Feb 09 04:44:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you're more like "Oh no, you were convicted, and that's it"
Feb 09 04:44:37 2016 <theocrite>	Everytime I hear someone talking about "genocide of pre-born" I think about this: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/03/05/brazil-church-excommunicates-mom-doctors-after-raped-year-old-has-abortion.html
Feb 09 04:44:38 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Brazil Church Excommunicates Mom, Doctors After Raped 9-Year-Old Has Abortion | Fox News (at www.foxnews.com)
Feb 09 04:44:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	"I realize the justice system doesn't work when I'm charged with a crime, but it works when it's you, and you're black, so you're dead"
Feb 09 04:44:51 2016 <Luke-Jr>	in any case, even if 100% of death row were innocent, that's less than 1% of those slaughered in abortions
Feb 09 04:44:59 2016 <theocrite>	It's ok if you rape a child, but abortion for a 9 years old girl? Oh god no!
Feb 09 04:45:11 2016 <Luke-Jr>	theocrite: murder is worse than rape, idiot
Feb 09 04:45:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	murder of an unborn child who was conceived through rape is worse than abortion?
Feb 09 04:45:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	really?
Feb 09 04:45:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	what twisted value system are you using, anyway?
Feb 09 04:45:54 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: that question doesn't evne parse
Feb 09 04:45:59 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh, right, fundamentalist catholic.  You're still stuck on that?
Feb 09 04:46:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	haven't you grown up yet?
Feb 09 04:46:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it totally "evne" parses
Feb 09 04:46:49 2016 <theocrite>	Luke-Jr: see, that's why I fear religious people. They force their view into yours and then call you idiot. Also they think everything is absolute. Black and white. There are no shades of grey.
Feb 09 04:47:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	theocrite: you better hurry up and go to work, because if we continue this argument, you're calling in late
Feb 09 04:47:14 2016 <Luke-Jr>	theocrite: truth is in fact absolute, though
Feb 09 04:47:34 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: murder of an unborn child who was conceived through rape literally /is/ abortion
Feb 09 04:47:35 2016 <theocrite>	Actually I'm already late. I need to hurry either way. :)
Feb 09 04:47:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr: no, reality doesn't exist in black and white.  It's all shades of grey.
Feb 09 04:47:46 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: that's just your delusions
Feb 09 04:48:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr: but the rapist was the murderer, the one who forced, without consent of the mother, the child to be conceived
Feb 09 04:48:13 2016 <Luke-Jr>	nonsense
Feb 09 04:48:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	she just corrected that
Feb 09 04:48:22 2016 <Luke-Jr>	murder is not a correction
Feb 09 04:48:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	she didn't do the murder, the rapist did it.  So he's a rapist AND a murderer.
Feb 09 04:48:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	she wouldn't need the abortion if he hadn't raped her.
Feb 09 04:49:12 2016 <Luke-Jr>	she never needed the abortion
Feb 09 04:49:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yes, she needed it after she was RAPED
Feb 09 04:49:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you're ok with someone forcing a kid onto your wife/girlfriend?
Feb 09 04:49:38 2016 <Luke-Jr>	her mother is guilty of murder-for-hire
Feb 09 04:49:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you'll raise that kid as your own?
Feb 09 04:49:52 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: if someone rapes my wife, I will raise the child as my own, yes
Feb 09 04:49:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	knowing it's not yours?
Feb 09 04:49:55 2016 <Luke-Jr>	that is the only decent thing to do
Feb 09 04:50:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I think abortion is the only decent thing to do
Feb 09 04:50:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hey, did our audience leave?
Feb 09 04:50:13 2016 <Luke-Jr>	murdering the innocent baby is not decent ever
Feb 09 04:50:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's not so fun to argue with you when there's no audience.  We already know how each other thinks, and we're not changing each other's minds.
Feb 09 04:50:33 2016 <Luke-Jr>	(clarification: adoption would also be decent, but I wouldn't do that)
Feb 09 04:50:42 2016 *	player_42_ is still munching popcorn
Feb 09 04:50:43 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: and you're still wrong
Feb 09 04:50:44 2016 <theocrite>	BTW faith was also absolute when Giordano Bruno was executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno#Imprisonment.2C_trial_and_execution.2C_1593.E2.80.931600 So it goes rape < murder < questionning Church?
Feb 09 04:50:45 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Giordano Bruno - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
Feb 09 04:51:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no, you're wrong
Feb 09 04:51:20 2016 <theocrite>	After all he said that earth wasn't the center of the universe, and maybe there was life somewhere else.
Feb 09 04:51:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	tell me, do you support TANF and/or SNAP for needy families?
Feb 09 04:51:49 2016 <Luke-Jr>	theocrite: s/questioning Church/heresy/
Feb 09 04:51:59 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: I don't recognise those acronyms
Feb 09 04:52:19 2016 <Luke-Jr>	theocrite: that wasn't all he said
Feb 09 04:52:39 2016 <Luke-Jr>	theocrite: St. Thomas Aquinas speculated on the latter, and the former was *conceived of* by *Fr.* Copernicus
Feb 09 04:53:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	TANF = temporary assistance for needy families.  SNAP = food stamps (it's supplemental nutritional assistance program)
Feb 09 04:53:16 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: if that's what's necessary to end abortion, great
Feb 09 04:53:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Basically, after the state forces a woman to have a baby, are you willing to use your tax dollars to pay child support?
Feb 09 04:53:43 2016 <Luke-Jr>	ideally, charity should be freely organised, not forced through the State; but if society is too corrupt to do it on their own, I agree the State ought to step in
Feb 09 04:53:57 2016 <theocrite>	Luke-Jr: so it's ok to burn people for heresy?
Feb 09 04:54:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	there's no charity in a forced child birth
Feb 09 04:54:14 2016 <Luke-Jr>	theocrite: the State may, yes
Feb 09 04:54:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I get that you're a single issue voter, and as such, you may not have someone to vote for this time aroound
Feb 09 04:54:45 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: Florida doesn't allow Catholics to vote anyway
Feb 09 04:54:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah they do, silly
Feb 09 04:54:57 2016 <Luke-Jr>	nope
Feb 09 04:55:07 2016 <Luke-Jr>	go read the FL Constitution sometime
Feb 09 04:55:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	they don't allow asshats to vote, maybe
Feb 09 04:55:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	are you registered to vote?  have you voted?
Feb 09 04:55:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it may be in their constitution, but there happens to be a SCOTUS decision that renders it obsolete
Feb 09 04:55:46 2016 <Luke-Jr>	registering to vote requires taking an oath of heresy
Feb 09 04:55:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you need to quit focusing on what's in your immediate view and look at the broader picture
Feb 09 04:56:01 2016 <Luke-Jr>	is there? FL apparently ignores it in practice
Feb 09 04:56:22 2016 <Luke-Jr>	de facto, I am not allowed to vote if I try
Feb 09 04:56:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you really have to take an oath?  I just had to fill out paperwork.
Feb 09 04:56:27 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: yes
Feb 09 04:56:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	then sue
Feb 09 04:56:42 2016 <player_42_>	Wait what? The state should burn people for registering to vote?
Feb 09 04:56:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm sure the Satanic Temple would take your side for religious freedom
Feb 09 04:56:56 2016 <Luke-Jr>	player_42_: lolwut
Feb 09 04:57:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or just threaten to sue.  After FL lost to the Satanic Temple, you can capitalize on that.
Feb 09 04:57:41 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: no time; the elections are rigged anyway
Feb 09 04:57:42 2016 <player_42_>	You just agreed that it's ok to burn people for heresy
Feb 09 04:57:55 2016 *	Lucifer_arma is enjoying the rise of Satanism.  No surprise at all.
Feb 09 04:57:56 2016 <Luke-Jr>	player_42_: the State may != the State should
Feb 09 04:58:10 2016 <Luke-Jr>	player_42_: and I was abbreviating the problem. the oath isn't to heresy itself, but to defend heresy.
Feb 09 04:58:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	unless they're mothers that have had abortions
Feb 09 04:58:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr would kill my wife if he ever met her, but he won't acknowledge her as my wife.
Feb 09 04:58:37 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: most "Satanists" these days are just atheists
Feb 09 04:58:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	But I'd kill him if he made the wrong moves at her, no questions asked.  Just like in Freeciv.  Nuke everything.
Feb 09 04:59:11 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: I am not a State
Feb 09 04:59:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr: I'll still kill you if you look at my wife funny for having had more than one abortion.
Feb 09 04:59:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	in a heartbeat.
Feb 09 04:59:49 2016 <Luke-Jr>	Lucifer_arma: if you tried, you'd be dead first
Feb 09 04:59:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	shoot you in the back, with the gun I don't own.
Feb 09 04:59:59 2016 <Luke-Jr>	see, I actually do own at least one gun
Feb 09 05:00:04 2016 <player_42_>	Meh, i'm on a phone and technically at work, so i'll just read along
Feb 09 05:00:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Luke-Jr: You can own that gun all you want, it won't stop me from snapping your neck.
Feb 09 05:00:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	You'll still be loading it when I lay in my attack.
Feb 09 05:00:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Just like in freeciv.
Feb 09 05:00:52 2016 <Luke-Jr>	I keep it loaded.
Feb 09 05:01:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	On Sunday.  You know, Jesus Day.
Feb 09 05:01:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Other days?  Yeah, maybe it's still loaded.  Which means you'll misfire because of the dust collected since the last time you fired it.
Feb 09 05:01:58 2016 <Luke-Jr>	I have sufficient property to practice at home.
Feb 09 05:02:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Are we done with this showmanship Luke-Jr vs Lucifer crap?
Feb 09 05:05:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'll be honest.  As much as I love you, Luke-Jr, and I do, I don't want to have to kill you in self defense if we should ever meet.  I will, if I have to, but I don't want to.  Love.  Jesus preaching.  Love.
Feb 09 05:05:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Maybe you should listen to Jesus more.
Feb 09 05:36:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	old school still wins....as long as you're not clumsy
Feb 09 05:36:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I was clumsy
Feb 09 05:36:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I still won a lot more than I should have
Feb 09 05:39:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	It is curious that I was asked "Who was your trainer?"
Feb 09 05:39:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Um, I don't know, last time I checked, nobody trained me
Feb 09 05:39:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Interesting
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Feb 09 15:33:52 2016 <AmarokNelg>	"Most users ever online was 569 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:24 am" lol oreally?
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Feb 09 15:50:23 2016 <Lightron>	Gonna assume they're hitting port 80 with an actual request?  The user agent could always be checked and weeded out to help avoid extra work with the database and data sent back.
Feb 09 15:50:45 2016 <Lightron>	Assuming they're not spoofing a real browser.  They don't seem to have bothered trying to make things too pretty as of yet.
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Feb 09 15:59:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it would be trivial to make an actual http request, and it would load the server up more than just pings
Feb 09 16:01:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you'd think that after Iowa, people would quit using Trump's poll numbers to predict a win
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Feb 09 17:04:11 2016 <z-man>	Forums are borked, so here are the ladle recordings: http://vps-zman.armagetronad.org/~manuel/armarecordings/ladle102/
Feb 09 17:04:12 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Index of /~manuel/armarecordings/ladle102 (at vps-zman.armagetronad.org)
Feb 09 17:32:44 2016 <z-man>	And my master server at home is now a raspi. Woo!
Feb 09 17:34:09 2016 <z-man>	Now I just need to get rid of the bzr-svn syncing and I can retire the poor old laptop that has been running 24/7 for the past ten years.
Feb 09 17:34:47 2016 <z-man>	It survived TWO dell successors.
Feb 09 17:53:10 2016 <ct|kyle>	z-man: so why don't we go after this asshat?
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Feb 09 19:56:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	if anyone's interested in the New Hamster primary: https://www.washingtonpost.com/2016-election-results/new-hampshire/
Feb 09 19:56:48 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: New Hampshire Election Results 2016: Live Maps, Polling, Analysis, Schedule, Complete Updates - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com)
Feb 09 19:59:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: use this instead http://trumpdonald.org/
Feb 09 19:59:41 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: TrumpDonald.org (at trumpdonald.org)
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Feb 09 20:04:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's awesome ct|kyle
Feb 09 20:12:10 2016 <Lightron>	+1 to Kyle. :P
Feb 09 20:12:41 2016 <Lightron>	Yours made me happy too, Luci.  Just not quite so entertained. lol
Feb 09 20:23:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	The GOP race just got interesting.  Kasich in second?  Really?
Feb 09 20:35:53 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: it's been interesting the whole time, where have you been
Feb 09 20:36:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	eh?  I've been watching.  Trump's a dickhead, and it looked like Cruz/Rubio/Bush were going to be the next ones up.
Feb 09 20:36:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but with what's going on in New Hamster, Kasich might come out of this a contender
Feb 09 20:36:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that'll shake up the race quite a bit
Feb 09 20:36:56 2016 <ct|kyle>	Except for that one debate, (3 or 4 ago)
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Feb 09 20:38:19 2016 <ct|kyle>	I really think rand paul should have stayed in for this one, with the crazy results, he could have been in contention for second also
Feb 09 20:39:39 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: when does Texas (or are you still in TX) have thier primary?
Feb 09 20:39:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Well, I'm not watching the debates.  I already know who I'm for on the demo side, and I'm not interested in watching Trump
Feb 09 20:40:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we're on Super Tuesday, which is March 1, iirc
Feb 09 20:40:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	I have to wait to may 3 :/
Feb 09 20:41:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Kasich is both closing on Trump, with a lot of distance to cover, but increasing over Bush
Feb 09 20:41:06 2016 <ct|kyle>	so most likely it'll be decided by then
Feb 09 20:41:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm not voting in the primary.  In Texas, that's how you declare party affiliation.  I really want my local politicians to see me as an independent who has to be swayed to their side
Feb 09 20:41:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Bernie is trouncing Hillary pretty hard right now.
Feb 09 20:42:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the state her husband won easily won't nominate her, haha
Feb 09 20:42:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, apparently we have 222 delegates for the dem side
Feb 09 20:43:19 2016 <ct|kyle>	ya, it'll be interesting if he makes it to IN again, she still had a chance 8 years ago when it got that far
Feb 09 20:43:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I see a lot of support for bernie, bush, and cruz around Austin
Feb 09 20:43:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	man, that primary was crazy ;)
Feb 09 20:44:03 2016 *	Lucifer_arma loved every minute of the 2008 primary, especially when Obama finally won
Feb 09 20:44:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I told people in December '07 that I wanted Obama to win, and I got a few people talking shit to me about it
Feb 09 20:44:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	WHO'S LAUGHING NOW MUTHERFUCKAS?!?!?  hUH?
Feb 09 20:44:40 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	;)
Feb 09 20:44:56 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: i never voted for him
Feb 09 20:45:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	if Bernie's a contender, the race won't be decided before IN
Feb 09 20:45:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	wait, you were too young, weren't you?
Feb 09 20:45:31 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	didn't you turn 18 like last month or so?
Feb 09 20:45:35 2016 <ct|kyle>	too many people want more and more, but they only way they get it is with more and more of the bill of rights going away
Feb 09 20:45:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: i'm almost 27
Feb 09 20:46:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we don't have to give up any liberty to demand increased government services
Feb 09 20:46:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's just the compromise the government offers us.  "Want better security?  Submit to security scanning"
Feb 09 20:46:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and assholes vote FOR that stuff
Feb 09 20:46:55 2016 <ct|kyle>	yes we do, increased government -> incread taxess -> less money -> less finatial freedom
Feb 09 20:47:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you must be making a shitload of money if increasing taxes is going to be a burden for you
Feb 09 20:47:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, you'd have to be living beyond your means WHILE making a shitload of money
Feb 09 20:48:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the problem with taxes is that people in the 80k-150k range pay 33% or so, while people above that pay only 25%
Feb 09 20:48:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I think I can see a place where we can raise taxes without hurting anybody
Feb 09 20:48:44 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: I'm still for a federal sales tax only
Feb 09 20:48:59 2016 <ct|kyle>	it should not be based on income, only what we spend
Feb 09 20:49:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hell, we'd gain $500/month in income if the government just took over healthcare.  I'd gladly pay an extra $25/month in taxes for that ;)
Feb 09 20:49:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	nah, that disproportionately hurts poor people.  You might have no problems shitting out another 8% for every purchase, but for people at the poverty line, that extra 8% could mean the difference between food every day and not
Feb 09 20:50:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I like the tiered income tax system, but ours is riddled with problems that could be fixed
Feb 09 20:51:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	going afk to make dinner.  I'm sure we'll have plenty of opportunity to debate policy during this election cycle ;)
Feb 09 20:51:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	I'm not against helping those under the poverty line, for food and whatnot, we do that anyway.
Feb 09 20:59:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'd be interested in adding to our federal tax code provisions that taxed the states, rather than the people, and let states decide how to spread the tax burden around
Feb 09 21:01:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, I'm pretty much in favor of cutting medicaid and other services to the poor, so long as we raise the minimum wage to at least $15 an hour.
Feb 09 21:02:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	In fact, that'd be how it would work.  We double minimum wage, and then most people collecting low income benefits will fail to qualify because they'll have enough money
Feb 09 21:03:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, the increased tax revenue from the increased wages would be tremendous
Feb 09 21:04:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and the increased economic activity...
Feb 09 21:04:22 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: I'd like to fund education, but not in the way it is curently working, standardized tests don't do well. All the techers do anymore are team for a test, they fail to apply the concepts to the real world. I fell behind in reading / writting because 1) did not feel like writting something about me for my teacher to read. and 2) I had no interest in the books they had us read
Feb 09 21:07:09 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: with an increase in minimum wage, we would loose a lot of jobs, more people under poverty because there are no jobs for them
Feb 09 21:08:44 2016 <ct|kyle>	but education at the federal level is horible, the school district that i was in recieve < $100 from the gevernment and of cource had to comply with no child left behind
Feb 09 21:12:10 2016 <ct|kyle>	and the district probaboly had about 6,000 students
Feb 09 21:16:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we won't lose jobs.  99% of current minimum wage jobs are food and retail, which you may notice as being location-dependent
Feb 09 21:16:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Also, under severe pressure, Wal-mart, Target, and some of the other big department stores are already paying at least $12/hour
Feb 09 21:17:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Academy, where my wife works, bumped her up over $15/hour when they made that change in pay.  (She's a Senior Team Lead, so not getting their smallest wage paid)
Feb 09 21:17:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	as to increased costs/fear of inflation, there will be cost increases, which might amount to something like 50 cents per Big Mac
Feb 09 21:18:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and that cost increase will be shared by *all* wage earners, not disproportionately thrown on the backs of the lowest earners
Feb 09 21:18:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and yes, we need no child left behind to be gone.  I don't remember Obama getting it repealed early, before there was too much Republican opposition
Feb 09 21:20:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's a way of punishing schools that perform poorly due to inaccurate measuring (standardized tests) by taking away their resources and asking them to do even better
Feb 09 21:20:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	just the dumbest idea anybody ever had.
Feb 09 21:21:32 2016 <ct|kyle>	But there really should be a way for a family to live off of 1 job, This is the root of a lot of the behavioral problems, kids have grown up basically  parentless.
Feb 09 21:21:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	as it stands right now, anybody who works full time and has to collect government benefits to make ends meet is effectively subsidizing their low wage with tax dollars
Feb 09 21:22:02 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: it's not jsut schools, teachers pay now is based on that
Feb 09 21:22:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, around here, teachers' pay is set by the school board ;)
Feb 09 21:22:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the principal has little say in how much they get paid, only in whether or not they get paid (s/he can fire teachers)
Feb 09 21:23:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but no child left behind does proscribe stuff the school districts have to do.  It's all just terrible.
Feb 09 21:23:14 2016 <ct|kyle>	was not sure if it was IN only or fed for aht one, but next year the teachers raises are purely based on thier students performance
Feb 09 21:23:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we should eliminate all the testing and focus on essays to demonstrate understanding and knowledge, and math math math
Feb 09 21:24:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that might be fed.  But the federal government doesn't cut the funding, necessarily.  They'll require the districts to do that.
Feb 09 21:24:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and fund band, orchestra, drama, debate, etc.  The fun stuff.  Kids that are engaged in their schools really fucking pay attention.
Feb 09 21:24:55 2016 <ct|kyle>	i see the problem with math, is there are many ways to perform an operation, I was good at it, but only because i would not listen to the teacher since I had already found my way of doing something.
Feb 09 21:25:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, the common core math looks awesome to me.  They're really teaching all sorts of different ways of looking at numbers.
Feb 09 21:25:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I see the early stuff that people bitch about looking ridiculous really making it easier to learn algebra, trig, and calculus
Feb 09 21:26:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you know, later on
Feb 09 21:29:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	I agree, and in my scool i never saw the connection of the differnt subjects until way to late. for sintance if math story problems were part of reading, I would have been more engaged in reading early on. and since they only accounted for a very small part of math, reading was something that i was not very engaged in.
Feb 09 21:31:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	In high school, I finally had a reading teacher connect reading / writting to math. After the next year he was essentually fired
Feb 09 21:34:53 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: Anyway i think we pretty much so would agree on what education should be. I would be for getting rid of the cores and group them into 1, exploration, at least in the eyes of the students.
Feb 09 21:36:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	There's really not a lot of reason for the amount of separation that exists between the cores
Feb 09 21:36:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	kids can learn to read and write while studying history
Feb 09 21:37:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	a linguistics core that covered language structure could cover grammar while also discussing other languages, making it easier to learn languages later in life
Feb 09 21:37:18 2016 <ct|kyle>	they can read write and do math with statistics
Feb 09 21:37:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	indeed, and there's plenty of statistical data to study that comes from history studies.  Also plenty of auxiliary reading and analysis.
Feb 09 21:38:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	So, basic arithmetic would come from that, and I think I'd agree with making statistics a core
Feb 09 21:38:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so the cores we're looking at in our Perfect Education System would be History, Linguistics, and Statistics
Feb 09 21:38:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Oh, also, Art and Literature
Feb 09 21:38:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	as one core, of course
Feb 09 21:38:57 2016 <ct|kyle>	and science
Feb 09 21:39:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	more specialized electives would still be on the table so kids can broaden knowledge in subjects they find interesting
Feb 09 21:39:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'd embed scientific method into the others during the k-6 years, and probably introduce science as an elective
Feb 09 21:39:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it wouldn't develop into a required specialty class until around 7th grade, but heavy science would be required to graduate
Feb 09 21:40:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm a firm believer that if you teach kids how to use their brains in the K-6 range, then we can raise the standards on what they need to know in 7-12 quite dramatically
Feb 09 21:41:07 2016 <ct|kyle>	ya
Feb 09 21:41:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hell, I personally learned more about math from logic puzzles and word problems than I ever did just doing exercises
Feb 09 21:41:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	of course, you still have to practice factoring and all the other boring shit, heh
Feb 09 21:42:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but courses like calculus made the most sense when we were doing word problems
Feb 09 21:42:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Hillary is feeling the bern in New Hamster right now, btw
Feb 09 21:42:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Kasich has cleared away from Cruz quite nicely, but is still having trouble gaining on Trump
Feb 09 21:43:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Cruz, Bush, and Rubio are all sharing the third spot, statistically
Feb 09 21:44:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hah, ct|kyle, now I realized why you're so young in my head.  :)  10 years ago, you were in high school while I was in college
Feb 09 21:46:18 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: and 8 years ago we were working on the lunar rover :P
Feb 09 21:46:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	right, right before my divorce completely derailed that
Feb 09 21:46:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	good times :)
Feb 09 21:46:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we should work on the rover again, just for kicks
Feb 09 21:47:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	technology has come so far, we could use the raspberry pi as the brain
Feb 09 21:48:12 2016 <ct|kyle>	I like the arduino mega :)
Feb 09 21:48:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh look, Cruz's star started to rise a little.  Bush, too, but Rubio is staying put
Feb 09 21:50:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	wow, 15 pins that can be used for PWM
Feb 09 21:50:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	how many motors do we want on this thing?  ;)
Feb 09 21:50:33 2016 <ct|kyle>	once i get it done, maybe i'll post some pictures of my arduino alarm clock
Feb 09 21:51:08 2016 <ct|kyle>	I've used it for 3 months, and have not worked on it though
Feb 09 21:51:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	nice.  An open source IDE for it.  We wouldn't have to worry about making an OS for it, we can just jump straight in to software
Feb 09 21:51:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but what about cameras and shit?
Feb 09 21:51:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hey, speaking of robots, you ever get into robocode?
Feb 09 21:52:33 2016 <ct|kyle>	I don't think cameras would be too hard to do with it. I have not looked at that or robocode
Feb 09 21:53:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you should check out robocode.  :)  Java robot battles!
Feb 09 21:53:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I have a robocode bot I was playing with a few weeks back.  My older son is interested in it.
Feb 09 21:54:08 2016 <ct|kyle>	looks neat
Feb 09 21:54:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Cruz and Bush are almost far enough ahead of Rubio to share third place, but put Rubio in 4th
Feb 09 21:54:56 2016 <ct|kyle>	kasich projected to be 2nd
Feb 09 21:57:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the camera interface would still depend on a library capable of using camera input to create an internal map.  Hmmm.....
Feb 09 21:57:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 09 22:58:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, I'm glad there are reasonable republicans out there somewhere.  Kasich is probably the closest to reasonable candidate they're running, and he got second
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Feb 10 13:20:53 2016 <Deso>	how is the pi
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Feb 11 12:38:52 2016 <z-man>	GRAVITY WAVES WOOO
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Feb 11 14:35:40 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	they were very specific about it...
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Feb 11 18:30:10 2016 <Ratchett>	z-man, site offline?
Feb 11 18:30:43 2016 <Ratchett>	it is on my end. I indicated on the thread of interest that I was having odd issues with 522 errors, though, and no one else seemed to be
Feb 11 18:31:43 2016 <Ratchett>	I tried connecting earlier and got this: http://i.imgur.com/gkBNjAd.png
Feb 11 18:31:49 2016 <Ratchett>	which is the same error I was getting before
Feb 11 18:32:03 2016 <Ratchett>	currently it just says "offline" in plaintext
Feb 11 18:41:29 2016 <sinewav>	Ratchett: give it some time. we are in a phase where a lot of issues can only be resolved by Tank Program who is notoriously absent from the forums.
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Feb 11 19:06:05 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Lucifer_arma yes, of course. In German, there is no distinction between the two. Plus, GRAVITY fits better with WOOO
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Feb 12 15:00:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Z-Man-Windows: so does that mean we're taking gravitons seriously now, instead of treating them as star trek technobabble?
Feb 12 15:00:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, I'm sure there's a yo' momma joke in this discovery, but I haven't found it yet
Feb 12 15:17:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Dude, yo' mamma so fat, everytime she fuck somebody, LIGO has to recalibrate
Feb 12 15:33:36 2016 <AmarokNelg>	you guys should limit the number of connections happening at the same time
Feb 12 15:34:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Lucifer_arma, z-man, guru3 
Feb 12 15:39:05 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Lucifer_arma We have always taken gravitons seriously. They're just even harder to detect :) Nobody really expects that to ever be possible.
Feb 12 15:39:30 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	We'll be happy to have a CONSISTENT theory of quantum gravity, really.
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Feb 12 15:48:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	AmarokNelg: I think we'd need access to the apache config, which I don't think we have.  But apache's standard config limits connections already
Feb 12 15:48:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	And, awww, no comment on my yo' momma joke?
Feb 12 15:49:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and why does my bluetooth keyboard come with a USB cable to charge it, but no base to plug it into?
Feb 12 15:50:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	the USB wireless mouse hasnt even died yet... how could a bluetooth keyboard need a USB cable
Feb 12 15:50:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	to charge it, of course
Feb 12 15:50:57 2016 <AmarokNelg>	does it die quickly?
Feb 12 15:51:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	if you hadn't noticed, tablets and their accessories are all going to mini-usb plugs for charging
Feb 12 15:51:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and I don't know if it dies quickly.  Just got it.
Feb 12 15:51:49 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I thought they used microusb
Feb 12 15:51:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	not miniusb
Feb 12 15:53:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	micro, whatever.  Either way, it still needs to be charged from time to time.  ;)
Feb 12 15:53:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's a tablet case with a bluetooth keyboard.  AKA the future of mobile computing.  ;)
Feb 12 15:54:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I've had this mouse for about a year but it hasnt died... battery claims to be at 55%
Feb 12 15:54:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	which means it will probably die in a year from now, right?
Feb 12 15:54:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	assuming same mouse usage, I suppose.
Feb 12 15:55:31 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	now I need to dig up a base so I can charge everything.  I let the tablet run dead a couple days ago, and it's only at 55% right now
Feb 12 15:55:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but it's paired to the new keyboard, and the old one unpaired.
Feb 12 15:56:03 2016 <AmarokNelg>	im not going to bother with wireless keyboards for now
Feb 12 15:56:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Now I'm going to look FANCY when I'm using my tablet to scan with my OBD-II interface.  :)
Feb 12 15:56:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'd have been happy with a usb keyboard/case combo, but there don't seem to be many of those for tablet this size.
Feb 12 15:56:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	*any, we didn't find any
Feb 12 15:57:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's what I had for my 7 inch tablet, and I really liked it, but the keys were just slightly smaller than my fingertips, making it difficult to use.
Feb 12 16:04:58 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Since my laptop pretty much died (I suppose it could hold out a couple of months in non-3d-mode), I'm also looking for a tablet replacement for couch stuff.
Feb 12 16:05:13 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Thinking about a combo of a 10 inch and a LARGE keyboard
Feb 12 16:05:32 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	by large, I mean pretty much regular size, larger than the tablet.
Feb 12 16:05:58 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	So not really a mobile solution, but good for couch use.
Feb 12 16:06:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I was using a USB laptop keyboard.  So, no keypad, but otherwise a regular sized keyboard.  The problem with that was that I didn't have a way to stand up the tablet, and the usb cable was really long.
Feb 12 16:06:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but you can get a full-USB to micro-USB adapter.
Feb 12 16:07:02 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	I'm in the process of determining what I really want from my couch/mobile device.
Feb 12 16:07:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Then you can get a case for the tablet that can stand it up for you.  Doesn't have to have an embedded keyboard.
Feb 12 16:07:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the keyboard I just got has regular sized keys, but is a few centimeters thinner than the keyboard on my laptop
Feb 12 16:08:04 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Here's the couch keyboard I have in mind: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00MWNDUDM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3BSDVVRHPC2AR&coliid=I1B6STHV4A1VQ2&psc=1
Feb 12 16:08:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the biggest problem I'm having with Android in general is the broken c-library that prevents so many desktop apps from running on it.
Feb 12 16:08:17 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	allows you to put in the tablet in the slot on top.
Feb 12 16:08:56 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Well, the thing I'm pondering is... they just announced an Ubuntu tablet.
Feb 12 16:09:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, and it uses uClibc
Feb 12 16:09:23 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	That would be perfect for the occasional coding, as it turns into a proper Ubuntu desktop once you connect mouse and keyboard.
Feb 12 16:09:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that would probably replace my laptop completely.
Feb 12 16:10:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Ubuntu has the right approach, and if they can really nail it, they could well take over the tablet market.  Or at the very least, force Google and Apple to release more POSIX-compatible operating systems
Feb 12 16:10:35 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Except that it's ARM, of course, so it won't run a couple of closed source stuff. Nothing too important. Skype and Steam.
Feb 12 16:10:55 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	uClibc is the bad one?
Feb 12 16:11:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Steam is Java.  I thought Skype was still open source?
Feb 12 16:11:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	uClibc isn't as good as glibc, but it's as posix-compatible.  It's designed to be small.
Feb 12 16:11:17 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Steam is x86 only.
Feb 12 16:11:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Google made up their own libc for android that has broken threads, hacked ABI interfaces, etc.
Feb 12 16:11:37 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	And Skype never was open source, don't think so.
Feb 12 16:11:48 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Ah
Feb 12 16:12:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	they gave it a fancy powerful name that I can't remember
Feb 12 16:12:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but it's the fundamental reason we can't just compile arma for android
Feb 12 16:12:45 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	The from my point of view brillant thing about the Ubuntu tablet is that it's based on the Android tablet I had been eyeing anyway.
Feb 12 16:12:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	with a decent c library, we could rebuild all of our libraries and static-link to them
Feb 12 16:13:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh, that's lucky :)
Feb 12 16:13:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I ended up with a Tagital 10.1 inch tablet.
Feb 12 16:13:09 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	There'd just be the GLES issue.
Feb 12 16:13:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	right.  Which shouldn't be too hard to solve since all the GL code is next to each other.
Feb 12 16:13:51 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	And not spread around the whole source like a madman wrote it.
Feb 12 16:13:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	haha :)
Feb 12 16:14:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	isn't it that opengl header you made that would be where to work on it?  Or is it that we'd need SDL to build and "fix" the GLES issue for us?
Feb 12 16:15:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we'd also need to be able to rescale on the fly, for when the tablet gets rotated, but that can be disabled and we can force landscape mode.
Feb 12 16:15:18 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	In theory, yes, that header would be for adaption to other 3D libraries.
Feb 12 16:15:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	in practice, we'd get it "working" there, but then have to fix small problems that show up everywhere else?
Feb 12 16:15:41 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	In practice, it wraps precisely the kind of interface GLES does not have.
Feb 12 16:15:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah, maybe I should learn more about GLES
Feb 12 16:16:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ALways thought it was just a subset of openGL
Feb 12 16:16:42 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Yes, only a subset that has pretty much no overlap with what we're using.
Feb 12 16:16:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	see, I was thinking about making a WINE-style adapter for Android and seeing how far that got me.  That was when I learned about the c library problems.
Feb 12 16:16:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I look in the source code and see a function, but its confusing,  I wanna know the exact formula of SIZE_FACTOR vs REAL_ARENA_SIZE_FACTOR
Feb 12 16:16:57 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	It would not hurt performance on the regular version to go for the GLES subset.
Feb 12 16:17:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	eek, that sounds like work :)
Feb 12 16:17:30 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	REAL_SIZE_FACTOR=2^(SIZE_FACTOR*0.5) or something
Feb 12 16:17:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm not working right now by using the excuse that my tablet's charging :)
Feb 12 16:18:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	just keep your map in the 500x500 range and it'll scale like you expect ;)
Feb 12 16:18:03 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Tagital does not even get sold her.
Feb 12 16:18:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Texas company.  We had to pay sales tax on Amazon.  :(  So depressing.
Feb 12 16:18:32 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ping
Feb 12 16:18:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	:\
Feb 12 16:18:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	pong
Feb 12 16:18:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
Feb 12 16:18:45 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 12 16:18:55 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]calc
Feb 12 16:18:56 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: (calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
Feb 12 16:18:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]calc 2^(-1*0.5)
Feb 12 16:18:59 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
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Feb 12 16:19:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ping
Feb 12 16:19:06 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: pong
Feb 12 16:19:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc 2^(-1*0.5)
Feb 12 16:19:09 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	0.7071067811865475244
Feb 12 16:19:20 2016 <AmarokNelg>	is that what it is ingame?
Feb 12 16:19:37 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Yep
Feb 12 16:19:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that'll make it very small.
Feb 12 16:20:03 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Every SIZE_FACTOR step down decreases the map size by a factor of sqrt(2)
Feb 12 16:20:15 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Lucifer_arma from the base size.
Feb 12 16:20:30 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	!calc 500 * 2^(-.5)
Feb 12 16:20:30 2016 <nelg-bot>	Z-Man-Windows:	353.5533905932737622
Feb 12 16:20:41 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	that would be the side length of the basic map
Feb 12 16:20:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh right, I didn't read that 0.5 exponent correctly
Feb 12 16:20:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	sorry.  Been awhile since I mathed.
Feb 12 16:21:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	my kids are letting me down by being too good at math in school.  But I gave my step-daughter a trig intro, and when they hit it in class the next day, she was bored.
Feb 12 16:21:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	That reminds me, I've got the law of cosines written on the marker board.  I meant to add the law of sines.
Feb 12 16:23:36 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	That one always weirds me out. How can it be so simple?
Feb 12 16:24:11 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	The law of cosines is just Pythagoras extended.
Feb 12 16:24:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, they already knew Pythagoras, so I felt like they should see the extended version regularly.
Feb 12 16:25:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and yeah, the law of sines is kind of whack
Feb 12 16:25:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I feel a bit of cognitive dissonance using it
Feb 12 16:25:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm more comfortable with sin/cos = tan
Feb 12 16:26:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'll derive that one for my step-daughter soon, so she can see magic at work ;)
Feb 12 16:28:37 2016 <ct|kyle>	Looks like forms being down is a good thing, no more dead IRC
Feb 12 16:31:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, but hardly anyone here wants to talk elections :)
Feb 12 16:31:23 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Oh, that's an easier proof of the law of sines than I came up with: http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/math/algtrig/att12/derivelawofsines.htm
Feb 12 16:31:24 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Deriving Law of Sines and Law of Cosines (at www.regentsprep.org)
Feb 12 16:31:34 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Turns out it's not weird at all.
Feb 12 16:32:31 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh wow, that's so simple
Feb 12 16:32:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we did a much harder one in trig
Feb 12 16:33:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	actually, we didn't do a harder one, we "proved" it by being given the law and plugging in values from several triangles
Feb 12 16:33:19 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: only because either of the ones leading, will hurt the country more
Feb 12 16:33:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	not exactly rigorous, but enough for us to believe in it
Feb 12 16:34:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, but Trump's not really "leading".  As the other candidates drop out, they'll throw their support to a !Trump candidate.
Feb 12 16:34:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	there's 33 delegates currently in control of people who won't support Trump
Feb 12 16:34:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	he's only got 17.
Feb 12 16:34:35 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	I don't remember doing any proof of either law in school.
Feb 12 16:34:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	he's only "leading" if they all go to the convention, which they won't.  Sometime in March, we should start seeing significant movement there.
Feb 12 16:34:52 2016 <Z-Man-Windows>	Later, with vector algebra, I think we did the proof of the Law of Cosines.
Feb 12 16:35:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we proved the law of cosines, but I don't remember the proof.
Feb 12 16:35:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I remember it involved dropping the vertical to get two right triangles.
Feb 12 16:36:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	like the proof on that webpage ;)
Feb 12 16:37:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I have this plan to list a lot of the trig identities somewhere where my kids will see them regularly with the hope that they'll end up memorizing them by being exposed to them
Feb 12 16:37:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	then they'll breeze through calc 2
Feb 12 16:40:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	how come ]calc errored when trying to calculate that btw?
Feb 12 16:41:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	different bots?
Feb 12 16:41:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	is yours a supybot?
Feb 12 16:41:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	is there any real point to putting any living NAZI assholes on trial anymore?
Feb 12 16:41:49 2016 <AmarokNelg>	mines not a supybot, no...
Feb 12 16:41:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	that might be the difference
Feb 12 16:41:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	They're all gonna be in their 90s, and probably going to die soon anyway
Feb 12 16:42:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, python should be able to do that math, but supybot might not let negative exponents get through
Feb 12 16:42:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 2*-1
Feb 12 16:42:44 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: -2
Feb 12 16:42:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 2*0.5
Feb 12 16:42:54 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 1
Feb 12 16:43:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	huh?
Feb 12 16:43:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 2.0*0.5
Feb 12 16:43:06 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 1
Feb 12 16:43:11 2016 <AmarokNelg>	* is mutiplication, ^ is exponent...
Feb 12 16:43:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	wait
Feb 12 16:43:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 2^-1
Feb 12 16:43:19 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 12 16:43:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 2^0.5
Feb 12 16:43:26 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 12 16:43:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, that was a typo
Feb 12 16:43:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 4^0.5
Feb 12 16:43:34 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 12 16:43:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ah ok
Feb 12 16:43:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 4^2
Feb 12 16:43:38 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 12 16:43:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ahhh, duh
Feb 12 16:43:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 4**2
Feb 12 16:43:47 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 16
Feb 12 16:43:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 4**0.5
Feb 12 16:43:56 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 2
Feb 12 16:44:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's right.  Python uses ** instead of ^
Feb 12 16:44:17 2016 <player_42>	]calc 10**100
Feb 12 16:44:17 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: 10000000000000000159028911097599180468360808563945281389781327557747838772170381060813469985856815104
Feb 12 16:44:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc 2**(-1*0.5)
Feb 12 16:44:21 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 0.707106781187
Feb 12 16:44:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc 10**100
Feb 12 16:44:32 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Feb 12 16:44:33 2016 <player_42>	but python should get that one right
Feb 12 16:44:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	floating point implementations?
Feb 12 16:44:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	python *should* pass that unchanged to the c library
Feb 12 16:45:04 2016 <player_42>	no, pyrthon does bigints
Feb 12 16:45:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]calc abs(-1)
Feb 12 16:45:42 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: 1
Feb 12 16:45:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that looks like the kind of error you'd get with floats and big calculations
Feb 12 16:45:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]calc pi()
Feb 12 16:45:54 2016 <player_42>	yeah
Feb 12 16:45:54 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 12 16:45:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	:\
Feb 12 16:45:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]calc pi()
Feb 12 16:46:00 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 12 16:46:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc PI
Feb 12 16:46:01 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 3.14159265359
Feb 12 16:46:04 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh
Feb 12 16:46:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	makes me feel like an idiot
Feb 12 16:46:12 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc pi()
Feb 12 16:46:13 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	3.14159265358979323846
Feb 12 16:46:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	looks like a round() is being called in supybot
Feb 12 16:47:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc PI*100
Feb 12 16:47:08 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 314.159265359
Feb 12 16:47:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's interesting
Feb 12 16:47:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]calc PI*10000
Feb 12 16:47:21 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: 31415.9265359
Feb 12 16:47:39 2016 <player_42>	]calc pi*1e8
Feb 12 16:47:39 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Feb 12 16:47:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's not a round, that's a sig fig thing
Feb 12 16:47:44 2016 <player_42>	]calc pi*1.0e8
Feb 12 16:47:44 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Feb 12 16:47:58 2016 <player_42>	]calc 0x1e8
Feb 12 16:47:58 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: 488
Feb 12 16:48:21 2016 <player_42>	]calc 0x3e8
Feb 12 16:48:21 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: 1000
Feb 12 16:48:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	are you trying to use engineering notation?
Feb 12 16:48:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]list
Feb 12 16:48:32 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: AcronymFinder, Admin, Alias, Bible, BitcoinData, Channel, Config, Currency, CyborgName, Format, Games, IgnoreFormatting, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Rhyme, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, String, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
Feb 12 16:48:33 2016 <player_42>	yeah
Feb 12 16:48:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]commands
Feb 12 16:48:38 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Feb 12 16:48:39 2016 <player_42>	apparently unsupported
Feb 12 16:48:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's taking that as base-16 (the name for it isn't coming to mind)
Feb 12 16:48:53 2016 <player_42>	hex
Feb 12 16:48:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!math
Feb 12 16:48:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: I couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 12 16:49:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I keep getting things confused ] vs !
Feb 12 16:49:08 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]math
Feb 12 16:49:09 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: Error: "math" is not a valid command.
Feb 12 16:49:14 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I see math on the list though
Feb 12 16:49:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	is that not a list of commands?
Feb 12 16:49:22 2016 <player_42>	but that 3e8 = speed of light = 1000 in hex is a nice coincedence I like
Feb 12 16:49:37 2016 <player_42>	]echo !echo hi
Feb 12 16:49:37 2016 <ljrbot>	!echo hi
Feb 12 16:49:37 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: I couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 12 16:49:38 2016 <ljrbot>	It is true that you couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 12 16:49:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm sure that means the universe is really base-16
Feb 12 16:49:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or that we're living in the matrix
Feb 12 16:49:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	one of the two
Feb 12 16:50:06 2016 <player_42>	]echo !commands
Feb 12 16:50:06 2016 <ljrbot>	!commands
Feb 12 16:50:07 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: Commands: !help, !commands (!list), !about, !calc, !google, !weather, !dict, !scramble, !typo, !find, !lastseen, !servers, !slap, !md5, !sha1, !base64, !debase64, !bf, !say, !me, !ladle, !8ball, !date, !readtimer, !timer, !time, !generate, !copycat
Feb 12 16:50:07 2016 <Guest57901823>	It is Commands:.
Feb 12 16:50:08 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: Error: "Commands:" is not a valid command.
Feb 12 16:50:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's not TRON, this world isn't that pretty
Feb 12 16:50:24 2016 <player_42>	]echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:50:25 2016 <ljrbot>	!say hi
Feb 12 16:50:25 2016 <nelg-bot>	hi
Feb 12 16:50:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!8ball should I do a line?
Feb 12 16:50:28 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: Reply hazy try again
Feb 12 16:50:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!8ball should I do a line?
Feb 12 16:50:32 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: You may rely on it.
Feb 12 16:50:43 2016 <player_42>	]echo !say ]echo !say ]echo !say ]echo !say ]echo !say ]echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:50:43 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Feb 12 16:50:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!8ball can I buy that at the grocery store?
Feb 12 16:50:44 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: You may rely on it.
Feb 12 16:50:47 2016 <player_42>	aww
Feb 12 16:51:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo "!say ']echo'"
Feb 12 16:51:20 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ']echo'
Feb 12 16:51:20 2016 <nelg-bot>	']echo'
Feb 12 16:51:28 2016 <player_42>	i'm too lazy to figure out how to properly quote that if nested deeply
Feb 12 16:51:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I don't think you can.
Feb 12 16:52:01 2016 <player_42>	]echo "can I say \"hello, world\"?"
Feb 12 16:52:02 2016 <ljrbot>	can I say "hello, world"?
Feb 12 16:52:09 2016 <player_42>	!say "can I say \"hello, world\"?"
Feb 12 16:52:09 2016 <nelg-bot>	"can I say \"hello, world\"?"
Feb 12 16:52:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo "!say ']echo !say ]echo'"
Feb 12 16:52:13 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ']echo !say ]echo'
Feb 12 16:52:13 2016 <nelg-bot>	']echo !say ]echo'
Feb 12 16:52:13 2016 <player_42>	!say "can I say "hello, world"?"
Feb 12 16:52:13 2016 <nelg-bot>	"can I say "hello, world"?"
Feb 12 16:52:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh wait
Feb 12 16:52:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo "!say ]echo !say ]echo"
Feb 12 16:52:29 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ]echo !say ]echo
Feb 12 16:52:30 2016 <nelg-bot>	]echo !say ]echo
Feb 12 16:52:31 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Feb 12 16:52:34 2016 <player_42>	!say !][]!"' do you want me to quote at all?
Feb 12 16:52:34 2016 <nelg-bot>	!][]!"' do you want me to quote at all?
Feb 12 16:52:38 2016 <player_42>	apparently not
Feb 12 16:52:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo "!say ]echo '!say ]echo'"
Feb 12 16:52:48 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ]echo '!say ]echo'
Feb 12 16:52:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	]echo '!say ]echo'
Feb 12 16:52:50 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Feb 12 16:53:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo "!say ]echo !say ']echo'"
Feb 12 16:53:02 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ]echo !say ']echo'
Feb 12 16:53:02 2016 <nelg-bot>	]echo !say ']echo'
Feb 12 16:53:04 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Feb 12 16:53:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ok, this is frying my brain, I'm quitting
Feb 12 16:53:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh, I see.  ljrbot is stopping this from happening.
Feb 12 16:55:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Cruz should have let the ad with the former porn star run (hopefully after verifying the "former" status), saying "Jesus can forgive her, so why can't I?"
Feb 12 16:55:26 2016 <player_42>	]echo "!say ]echo \"!say ]echo hi\""
Feb 12 16:55:26 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ]echo "!say ]echo hi"
Feb 12 16:55:27 2016 <nelg-bot>	]echo "!say ]echo hi"
Feb 12 16:55:28 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ]echo hi
Feb 12 16:55:28 2016 <nelg-bot>	]echo hi
Feb 12 16:55:29 2016 <ljrbot>	hi
Feb 12 16:55:44 2016 <AmarokNelg>	lol!
Feb 12 16:56:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!ping
Feb 12 16:56:06 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: pong
Feb 12 16:56:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo !ping
Feb 12 16:56:17 2016 <ljrbot>	!ping
Feb 12 16:56:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: pong
Feb 12 16:56:18 2016 <ljrbot>	ping
Feb 12 16:57:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo "!ping !ping"
Feb 12 16:57:03 2016 <ljrbot>	!ping !ping
Feb 12 16:57:03 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: pong
Feb 12 16:57:03 2016 <ljrbot>	ping
Feb 12 16:57:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	wait, I got this
Feb 12 16:57:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	having fun with bots much?
Feb 12 16:58:07 2016 <player_42>	do we even need any quotes?
Feb 12 16:58:37 2016 <player_42>	ljrbot: echo nelgbot: say ljrbot: echo nelgbot: sayljrbot: echo nelgbot: sayljrbot: echo nelgbot: say hi
Feb 12 16:58:37 2016 <ljrbot>	nelgbot: say ljrbot: echo nelgbot: sayljrbot: echo nelgbot: sayljrbot: echo nelgbot: say hi
Feb 12 16:58:45 2016 <player_42>	nelg-bot: say test
Feb 12 16:59:16 2016 <player_42>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:16 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:18 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:19 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:20 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:21 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:21 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:22 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:23 2016 <player_42>	there
Feb 12 16:59:23 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say hi
Feb 12 16:59:24 2016 <ljrbot>	!say hi
Feb 12 16:59:24 2016 <nelg-bot>	hi
Feb 12 16:59:30 2016 *	player_42 is done with spamming
Feb 12 16:59:30 2016 *	nelg-bot is also done with spamming 
Feb 12 17:07:22 2016 <player_42>	of course, if we define an alias with ljrbot we should be able to create an endless loop
Feb 12 17:07:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!8ball is my name lucifer?
Feb 12 17:07:35 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Better not tell you now
Feb 12 17:07:42 2016 <player_42>	but stopping it would probably require kicking one of the bots
Feb 12 17:07:50 2016 <player_42>	or undefining the alias…
Feb 12 17:07:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!8ball is my name lucifer?
Feb 12 17:07:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Nah
Feb 12 17:08:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!8ball is my name nelg?
Feb 12 17:08:01 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Concentrate and ask again.
Feb 12 17:08:02 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!8ball is my name nelg?
Feb 12 17:08:03 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: No
Feb 12 17:08:27 2016 <AmarokNelg>	wait
Feb 12 17:08:35 2016 <player_42>	]help alias
Feb 12 17:08:35 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: There is no command "alias".
Feb 12 17:08:45 2016 <player_42>	]alias
Feb 12 17:08:45 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: "alias" is not a valid command.
Feb 12 17:08:54 2016 <player_42>	ah
Feb 12 17:08:55 2016 <player_42>	!alias
Feb 12 17:08:55 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: I couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 12 17:08:59 2016 <player_42>	!help alias
Feb 12 17:08:59 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: The command !alias may not exist or be documented.
Feb 12 17:09:03 2016 <player_42>	!commands
Feb 12 17:09:04 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: Commands: !help, !commands (!list), !about, !calc, !google, !weather, !dict, !scramble, !typo, !find, !lastseen, !servers, !slap, !md5, !sha1, !base64, !debase64, !bf, !say, !me, !ladle, !8ball, !date, !readtimer, !timer, !time, !generate, !copycat
Feb 12 17:09:04 2016 <Guest57901823>	It is Commands:.
Feb 12 17:09:07 2016 <player_42>	]commands
Feb 12 17:09:07 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Feb 12 17:09:37 2016 <player_42>	]list
Feb 12 17:09:38 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: AcronymFinder, Admin, Alias, Bible, BitcoinData, Channel, Config, Currency, CyborgName, Format, Games, IgnoreFormatting, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Rhyme, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, String, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
Feb 12 17:09:49 2016 <player_42>	]Alias help
Feb 12 17:09:49 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "help" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
Feb 12 17:09:54 2016 <player_42>	]list Alias
Feb 12 17:09:54 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: d, d, roulette, d, r, roulette, kek, dicks, good, nicks, r, roulette, seen, roulette, r, !, !repeat100, /me, 8ball, 93a, a, aawiki, abs, abstain, abstains, action, add, addsabutton, addup, aeromax, aids, aiias, aka, aliasb, alot, andre, appless, appreciate, armaconfig, as, ay, ayyyyy, b%, b&, b&-, b&random, badbot, baddude, badequals, baka, ban, bc,blocks, bc,calc, bc,calcd, (15 more messages)
Feb 12 17:10:03 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]more
Feb 12 17:10:03 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
Feb 12 17:10:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]list Alias
Feb 12 17:10:10 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: d, d, roulette, d, r, roulette, kek, dicks, good, nicks, r, roulette, seen, roulette, r, !, !repeat100, /me, 8ball, 93a, a, aawiki, abs, abstain, abstains, action, add, addsabutton, addup, aeromax, aids, aiias, aka, aliasb, alot, andre, appless, appreciate, armaconfig, as, ay, ayyyyy, b%, b&, b&-, b&random, badbot, baddude, badequals, baka, ban, bc,blocks, bc,calc, bc,calcd, (15 more messages)
Feb 12 17:10:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo nelg-bot: say ljr-bot: echo neg-bot: say ljr-bot: "!ping"
Feb 12 17:10:11 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: say ljr-bot: echo neg-bot: say ljr-bot: !ping
Feb 12 17:10:24 2016 <player_42>	]more
Feb 12 17:10:25 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: bc,calcdiff, bc,calcgh, bc,calckh, bc,calcmh, bc,calcth, bc,calcᵇh, bc,calcᵐh, bc,diff, bc,difficulty, bc,eligius, bc,eligius,calc, bc,eligiuseu, bc,eligiuseu,calc, bc,eligiuslastfoundby, bc,eligiusra, bc,eligiussu, bc,eligiusti, bc,eligiusus, bc,eligiusus,calc, bc,estimate, bc,estimateblocksleft, bc,gen, bc,gend, bc,gengh, bc,genkh, bc,genmh, bc,genth, bc,idealeff, bc,idealeffgh, bc,idealeffkh, (14 more messages)
Feb 12 17:10:31 2016 <player_42>	]more
Feb 12 17:10:31 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: bc,idealeffmh, bc,sharereward, bc,sharesperday, be, best, bet, bib, bible, bit, bitch, bite, bits, bittwist, blah, blame, bugs, bye, byte, bzr, c, candy, charat, check, cheer, chodes, civdesu, civsong, claim, cocks, coin3, coin3+, coinflp, col, cookie, coolstory, cpc, cpcbackup, ctcp, ctgroups, cyname, d, d, d, dango, danisanidiot, dart, dart, dartattack, dartscore, dartscore, dccc, dccs, (13 more messages)
Feb 12 17:10:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	theres a lot of "bc"s in there
Feb 12 17:10:48 2016 <player_42>	no clear command
Feb 12 17:10:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo nelg-bot: say ljrbot: echo nelg-bot: say ljrbot: "!ping"
Feb 12 17:10:52 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: say ljrbot: echo nelg-bot: say ljrbot: !ping
Feb 12 17:11:12 2016 <player_42>	]alias new
Feb 12 17:11:12 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "new" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
Feb 12 17:11:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	nelg-bot: ping
Feb 12 17:11:24 2016 <player_42>	]alias define
Feb 12 17:11:24 2016 <ljrbot>	player_42: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "define" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
Feb 12 17:11:32 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc for
Feb 12 17:11:33 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:Left parenthesis expected  Error in commands
Feb 12 17:11:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: "!ping"
Feb 12 17:11:36 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: !ping
Feb 12 17:11:37 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: !ping
Feb 12 17:11:38 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: !ping
Feb 12 17:11:39 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: !ping
Feb 12 17:11:40 2016 <ljrbot>	nelg-bot: Error: "!ping" is not a valid command.
Feb 12 17:11:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]echo !say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo "!ping"
Feb 12 17:11:54 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !ping
Feb 12 17:11:55 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !say ljrbot: echo !ping
Feb 12 17:11:59 2016 <ljrbot>	!say ljrbot: echo !ping
Feb 12 17:11:59 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: echo !ping
Feb 12 17:12:02 2016 <ljrbot>	!ping
Feb 12 17:12:02 2016 <nelg-bot>	ljrbot: pong
Feb 12 17:12:03 2016 <ljrbot>	ping
Feb 12 17:12:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that's the best I've got
Feb 12 17:12:19 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc for()
Feb 12 17:12:20 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:Missing semicolon  Error in commands
Feb 12 17:12:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	uhhh how do I do for loops again?
Feb 12 17:12:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc foreach(true){print "]ping";}
Feb 12 17:12:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:"true" is undefined  Error in commands
Feb 12 17:12:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc foreach(1){print "]ping";}
Feb 12 17:12:59 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:Semicolon expected  Error in commands
Feb 12 17:14:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh
Feb 12 17:14:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc while(1){print "]ping";}
Feb 12 17:14:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Output exceeds limit of 800 digits.
Feb 12 17:14:54 2016 <player_42>	too bad. ljrbot is now ignoring me because I /msg'd too many more commands. therefore, we could get the bots to ignore each other, but no infinite loop :-(
Feb 12 17:15:10 2016 <player_42>	!calc 10*"x"
Feb 12 17:15:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxx"
Feb 12 17:15:19 2016 <player_42>	!calc 20*"x"
Feb 12 17:15:20 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Feb 12 17:15:29 2016 <player_42>	what's with the spaces?
Feb 12 17:15:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so, if a naked guy carrying no weapons charges a police officer, and the cop is currently still waiting for backup, what should the cop do?
Feb 12 17:15:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	spaces?
Feb 12 17:16:02 2016 <player_42>	in nelg-bot's response, before the first quote
Feb 12 17:16:11 2016 <player_42>	8 of them
Feb 12 17:16:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	only one space shows over here
Feb 12 17:16:26 2016 <AmarokNelg>	over here it looks like <nelg-bot> player_42: "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Feb 12 17:16:32 2016 <player_42>	probably your IRC client
Feb 12 17:16:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm seeing all the spaces, your irc client is probably trimming them out
Feb 12 17:16:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	weird then
Feb 12 17:16:54 2016 <player_42>	!calc 789*"x"
Feb 12 17:16:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feb 12 17:16:57 2016 <player_42>	!calc 798*"x"
Feb 12 17:16:57 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: Output exceeds limit of 800 digits.
Feb 12 17:17:07 2016 <player_42>	!calc 790*"x"
Feb 12 17:17:08 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feb 12 17:17:10 2016 <player_42>	!calc 791*"x"
Feb 12 17:17:11 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feb 12 17:17:12 2016 <player_42>	!calc 792*"x"
Feb 12 17:17:13 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feb 12 17:17:18 2016 <player_42>	!calc 794*"x"
Feb 12 17:17:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feb 12 17:17:21 2016 <player_42>	!calc 796*"x"
Feb 12 17:17:21 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feb 12 17:17:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	it seems the irc channel or something is also enforcing a limit
Feb 12 17:17:29 2016 <AmarokNelg>	because it doesnt have an ending quote
Feb 12 17:17:32 2016 <player_42>	!calc 797*"x"
Feb 12 17:17:32 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: Output exceeds limit of 800 digits.
Feb 12 17:17:40 2016 <player_42>	oh
Feb 12 17:17:45 2016 <player_42>	i didn't even notice
Feb 12 17:18:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc print \r
Feb 12 17:18:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:"r" is undefined  Error in commands
Feb 12 17:18:12 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc print "\r"
Feb 12 17:18:13 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:
Feb 12 17:18:17 2016 <player_42>	!calc 797*"…"
Feb 12 17:18:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: Output exceeds limit of 800 digits.
Feb 12 17:18:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc print "hello\rhow"
Feb 12 17:18:19 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:hello
Feb 12 17:18:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc print "hello\\rhow"
Feb 12 17:18:25 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:hello
Feb 12 17:18:25 2016 <player_42>	!calc 796*"…"
Feb 12 17:18:26 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42: Output exceeds limit of 800 digits.
Feb 12 17:18:42 2016 <player_42>	!calc 265*"…"
Feb 12 17:18:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	player_42:	"………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
Feb 12 17:19:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*100
Feb 12 17:19:22 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
Feb 12 17:19:25 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*200
Feb 12 17:19:26 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
Feb 12 17:19:27 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*300
Feb 12 17:19:28 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
Feb 12 17:19:29 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*400
Feb 12 17:19:30 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
Feb 12 17:19:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*500
Feb 12 17:19:32 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Feb 12 17:19:35 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*450
Feb 12 17:19:35 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Feb 12 17:19:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*430
Feb 12 17:19:38 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
Feb 12 17:19:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!calc "+"*440
Feb 12 17:19:41 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg:	"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Feb 12 17:19:52 2016 <AmarokNelg>	should the limit be lowered down to 430 so that IRC isnt trimming it?
Feb 12 17:20:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!admin REBOOT
Feb 12 17:20:59 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Rebooting process, please be patient...
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Feb 12 17:21:59 2016 <player_42>	nelg-bot: calc "…………"
Feb 12 17:22:36 2016 <AmarokNelg>	hm
Feb 12 17:29:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so, if a naked guy carrying no weapons charges a police officer, and the cop is currently still waiting for backup, what should the cop do?
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Feb 12 17:51:08 2016 <ct|kyle>	.calc []+{}
Feb 12 17:51:36 2016 <ct|kyle>	!calc []+{}
Feb 12 17:51:36 2016 <nelg-bot>	ct|kyle:Left bracket with no preceding lvalue  Error in commands
Feb 12 17:54:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	remind me not to read comments in a fox news article about, well, anything, but in this case it was a Trump v Pope article
Feb 12 18:03:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	hahaha
Feb 12 18:04:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	in an Amazon review for Uranium, a person said "I purchased this product 4.47 billion years ago, and when I finally opened it up today, it was half empty"
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Feb 12 19:01:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh noes, its swag :(
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Feb 13 05:26:33 2016 <Word>	Hi
Feb 13 05:27:19 2016 <Word>	Just wanted to ask whether you are going to put an end to the attacks and how long it probably takes
Feb 13 05:27:26 2016 <Word>	or if you don't
Feb 13 05:28:40 2016 <Lightron>	Right now it looks like he took it down again himself and hasn't gotten it put back up yet.
Feb 13 05:30:21 2016 <Word>	ah, thanks
Feb 13 05:30:46 2016 <Word>	do you guys work on something to make it harder for him?
Feb 13 05:30:51 2016 <Word>	or is that impossible?
Feb 13 05:33:02 2016 <Lightron>	Not impossible, and so far he's going in that direction using a cloud.  I haven't seen him give much detail on what he's actually doing, so I can't tell you any more than you really already know.
Feb 13 05:35:25 2016 <Word>	k, thanks
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Feb 13 05:57:37 2016 <guruthree>	right, so heavily firewalled internet atm with no ssh access
Feb 13 05:57:57 2016 <guruthree>	so it's a bit hard to fix stuff, sorry
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Feb 13 08:32:03 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 13 09:47:11 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 13 12:43:58 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 13 14:49:09 2016 <aP|Kevin>	anybody online?
Feb 13 14:49:32 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I was messing with settings and tried turning on motion blur - it froze tron.  now it is stuck enabled.
Feb 13 14:49:45 2016 <aP|Kevin>	can I disable it without deleting all my config files?
Feb 13 14:52:02 2016 <AmarokNelg2>	im online
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Feb 13 14:52:29 2016 <AmarokNelg>	you are using 0.4, right?
Feb 13 14:52:32 2016 <aP|Kevin>	yes
Feb 13 14:53:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	in $HOME/.config/armagetronad/
Feb 13 14:53:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	look for user.cfg
Feb 13 14:54:35 2016 <AmarokNelg>	then in that file
Feb 13 14:54:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	look for ARMAGETRON_VSYNC
Feb 13 14:54:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	what is it set to?
Feb 13 14:55:10 2016 <aP|Kevin>	3
Feb 13 14:55:26 2016 <aP|Kevin>	fixed it thanks
Feb 13 14:55:54 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I was looking in ~/.local/share/armagetronad
Feb 13 14:56:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh lol
Feb 13 14:56:11 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ping
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Feb 13 14:56:36 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ping
Feb 13 14:56:39 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: pong
Feb 13 14:57:37 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I think its the nvidia driver... it doesnt support vsync
Feb 13 14:57:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	no idea
Feb 13 14:59:01 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I remember when I had an ati rage 128 video card and tron would crash if cycle textures were turned on
Feb 13 14:59:55 2016 <aP|Kevin>	all the textures are set on mipmap trilinear
Feb 13 15:00:44 2016 <AmarokNelg>	im just saying
Feb 13 15:00:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	nvidia is not the same as an outdated ati card
Feb 13 15:01:04 2016 <aP|Kevin>	that is correct
Feb 13 15:01:12 2016 <aP|Kevin>	nvidia still has weird side effects
Feb 13 15:01:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	hey do you know how I can access my xchat remotely?
Feb 13 15:01:49 2016 <aP|Kevin>	use smuxi instead of xchat?
Feb 13 15:04:51 2016 <aP|Kevin>	or use vnc
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Feb 13 16:35:29 2016 <AmarokNelg>	o-o
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Feb 13 18:49:17 2016 <z-man>	Well, I got my laptop back sort of working!
Feb 13 18:49:50 2016 <z-man>	The nouveau driver of Ubuntu 12.04 manages to drive the severely overheated GPU without crashing it.
Feb 13 18:50:13 2016 <z-man>	I'm stuck in 1280x1024 and suspend does not work, but that'll do for now.
Feb 13 18:50:39 2016 <Lightron>	lol That driver is weird.  Sometimes it's way better than the proprietary, and sometimes it falls so extremely short.
Feb 13 18:54:07 2016 <z-man>	It's probably the fact that it's stuck at the lower resolution that makes it still work, so I'm not complaining.
Feb 13 18:56:29 2016 <Lightron>	I think it was a radeon hd 6850 that got better resolution before being logged in and I ran it with 1920x1080.
Feb 13 18:56:53 2016 <Lightron>	That card is a pos, but depending on what I was doing I had to switch between proprietary and nouveau.
Feb 13 18:57:35 2016 <Lightron>	Now I use proprietary drivers on an r9 280x and never have a need to switch, though I could potentially get better fps with it as I have in the past.
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Feb 13 20:11:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	sorry aP|Kevin, I can't maintain a connection to the server :\
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Feb 13 22:49:33 2016 <compguygene>	any news on the arma forums?
Feb 13 22:49:38 2016 *	compguygene misses them
Feb 13 22:53:52 2016 <ct|kyle>	compguygene: we replaced them with this
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Feb 13 22:57:46 2016 <compguygene>	I kinda figured that.  Hence the reason i am back on irc
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Feb 14 00:08:22 2016 <sinewav>	Seriously though, fewer idiots in here than on the forums.
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Feb 14 01:00:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	sinewav: dont say that too much or idiots might start coming here
Feb 14 01:15:27 2016 <compguygene>	yeah, that has always been the case.
Feb 14 01:15:38 2016 <compguygene>	time to spend more time here
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Feb 14 01:20:28 2016 <compguygene>	well, i can see a lot of good reasons for the powers that be to leave the forums database up for auth but the actual forums offline for now
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Feb 14 03:11:40 2016 <Magi>	Lucifer_arma, you hear anything on the forums front?
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Feb 14 05:17:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guru3: any news on the forums? ;)
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Feb 14 05:20:16 2016 <guruthree>	Lucifer_arma: there?
Feb 14 05:20:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guruthree: there
Feb 14 05:20:40 2016 <guruthree>	right
Feb 14 05:20:53 2016 <guruthree>	so, awkward moment on my part
Feb 14 05:21:04 2016 <guruthree>	i'm travelling and stuck without ssh
Feb 14 05:21:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah, no worries, seriously.  You're still doing the conference thing, or headed home?
Feb 14 05:21:26 2016 <guruthree>	which means that I can't actually restore the forums at the moment, as much as I would like to
Feb 14 05:21:35 2016 <guruthree>	I'm on my post-conference travel
Feb 14 05:21:50 2016 <guruthree>	i.e., vacation
Feb 14 05:22:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah
Feb 14 05:22:17 2016 *	Lucifer_arma is having difficulty figuring out how to offer ssh, heh
Feb 14 05:22:39 2016 <guruthree>	basically I'd need something like a secure anyterm server
Feb 14 05:22:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you're probably going to need your key or something anyway
Feb 14 05:22:48 2016 <guruthree>	which had I been clever I would have setup in advance
Feb 14 05:23:01 2016 <guruthree>	there's a chance I could make do with a SOCKS proxy
Feb 14 05:23:16 2016 <guruthree>	but I suspect the connection I'm on is a transparent proxy
Feb 14 05:23:35 2016 <guruthree>	making that a no go, I think
Feb 14 05:24:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	"For a small charge you can use our Anyterm installation to connect to your own systems."
Feb 14 05:24:49 2016 <guruthree>	yeah, but I'd much rather run my own setup/use someone's that I know
Feb 14 05:25:35 2016 <guruthree>	I'm a little paranoid about shoving passwords essentially plaintext even through HTTPS
Feb 14 05:25:51 2016 <guruthree>	http://dag.wiee.rs/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/
Feb 14 05:25:52 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: DAG: Tunneling SSH over HTTP(S) (at dag.wiee.rs)
Feb 14 05:25:55 2016 <guruthree>	something like that might work
Feb 14 05:26:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I don't know if I can get one setup quickly enough.  Hell, I'm not even sure my server's still running.  I keep forgetting to pay the bill.
Feb 14 05:27:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm up to like $11 or so.
Feb 14 05:27:38 2016 <guruthree>	I was hoping it'd be something z-man could put on his VPS temporarily
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Feb 14 05:27:50 2016 <guruthree>	heh
Feb 14 05:28:22 2016 <guruthree>	it might be as simple really as running an SSH server on port 80
Feb 14 05:28:30 2016 <guruthree>	that'd actually probably be the easiest thing to check
Feb 14 05:28:40 2016 <guruthree>	it's just I'm on the wrong side of the firewall for it all
Feb 14 05:29:45 2016 <guruthree>	I'm really kicking myself for not thinking of this scenario before I left
Feb 14 05:31:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, I could make a user for you real quick on my server, turn off apache, and move sshd to port 80
Feb 14 05:31:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	then you could ssh to my server, and then bounce to yours
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Feb 14 05:31:50 2016 <guruthree>	that sounds feasible
Feb 14 05:32:02 2016 <guruthree>	provided of course the firewall or whatever here lets it through
Feb 14 05:32:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	lemme do the server changes first.
Feb 14 05:32:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	does it check past tcp to make sure it's actual http happening?
Feb 14 05:32:29 2016 <guruthree>	I have no idea
Feb 14 05:32:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I mean, you can come here using the web interface....
Feb 14 05:32:37 2016 <guruthree>	before bothering to setup a user account, just do the server port
Feb 14 05:32:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, I was going to do that ;)
Feb 14 05:32:51 2016 <guruthree>	if I can't get it to prompt for a password there's no point
Feb 14 05:32:53 2016 <guruthree>	><
Feb 14 05:34:00 2016 <guruthree>	http://www.nurdletech.com/linux-notes/ssh/via-http.html
Feb 14 05:34:02 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: SSH via HTTP Nurdletech (at www.nurdletech.com)
Feb 14 05:34:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	how do you change the port the client tries to connect with?
Feb 14 05:34:24 2016 <guruthree>	that feels like a cleaner explanation
Feb 14 05:34:35 2016 <guruthree>	ssh -p number hostname
Feb 14 05:34:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah, got it
Feb 14 05:34:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ummm, now why isn't my sshd at that port?
Feb 14 05:35:04 2016 <guruthree>	need to restart the service?
Feb 14 05:35:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ok, see if you can connect
Feb 14 05:35:59 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	www.davefancella.com port 80
Feb 14 05:36:17 2016 <guruthree>	yes that's working
Feb 14 05:36:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	now, how do I make a user with the commandline?  ;)
Feb 14 05:36:52 2016 <guruthree>	useradd
Feb 14 05:37:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	this web page is telling me to do adduser
Feb 14 05:37:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the two are synonymous, right?
Feb 14 05:37:26 2016 <z-man>	both work
Feb 14 05:37:32 2016 <z-man>	slightly different
Feb 14 05:37:40 2016 <guruthree>	hurrah! it's z-man!
Feb 14 05:37:54 2016 <z-man>	yeah, I got my laptop patched back together.
Feb 14 05:38:08 2016 <guruthree>	I think adduser is the older less happy version?
Feb 14 05:38:37 2016 <z-man>	Running Ubuntu 12.04 with the OS graphics driver. Holds together for now. suspend does not work, but hibernate. Good enough for now.
Feb 14 05:39:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 right now
Feb 14 05:39:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	waiting for 14.04 before I upgrade
Feb 14 05:39:56 2016 <guruthree>	gentoo
Feb 14 05:41:12 2016 <guruthree>	updated as of about 3 weeks ago
Feb 14 05:41:20 2016 <guruthree>	thanks Lucifer_arma, I'm in
Feb 14 05:41:26 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	roger that
Feb 14 05:41:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I was on an off version of Ubuntu, and I kept forgetting regular updates, then I had to the pain in the ass version of updating using the obsolete repositories
Feb 14 05:41:54 2016 <guruthree>	now to route to my vps
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Feb 14 06:07:04 2016 <guru3>	ok, I have an ssh window out into the world
Feb 14 06:07:13 2016 <guru3>	thanks Lucifer_arma
Feb 14 06:07:36 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no problem.  are they up again, then?
Feb 14 06:07:53 2016 <guru3>	no, it took me that long just to sort out the best quick hack to get ssh to my vps
Feb 14 06:08:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh.  er, you could just go straight there from my server?
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Feb 14 06:08:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	*couldn't
Feb 14 06:09:00 2016 <guru3>	possibly
Feb 14 06:10:47 2016 <guru3>	but this is easier then in terms of ssh keys
Feb 14 06:12:06 2016 <guru3>	z-man: are you still here?
Feb 14 06:12:50 2016 <z-man>	yes
Feb 14 06:14:08 2016 <z-man>	guru3: and even if not, I can probably read what you write later whenever I appear online.
Feb 14 06:15:09 2016 <guru3>	I believe I've just invited you and Lucifer_arma to a new channel
Feb 14 06:18:05 2016 <z-man>	guru3: I don't see an invite, could be because I'm stupid
Feb 14 06:18:17 2016 <guru3>	grr
Feb 14 06:18:24 2016 <guru3>	stupid irc clients
Feb 14 06:18:27 2016 <guru3>	join #armaconf
Feb 14 06:18:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you have to look at Kubuntu IRC to see it
Feb 14 06:18:49 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you know, where the freenode server messages come from
Feb 14 06:19:17 2016 <z-man>	Ah.
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Feb 14 11:57:27 2016 <z-man>	There were 14010 failed login attempts since the last successful login.
Feb 14 11:57:42 2016 <z-man>	That may explain why ssh logins to z-man-fr are slow right now :)
Feb 14 11:57:54 2016 <z-man>	(last login was a couple of hours ago)
Feb 14 11:58:52 2016 <z-man>	Time for fail2ban.
Feb 14 11:59:57 2016 <Lightron>	It's normal with SSH servers.  Almost all of the IP's that tried to connect tend to be Chinese as well.
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Feb 14 12:00:28 2016 <Lightron>	I just use pam_tally2 and my own script to block the brute forcers.
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Feb 14 12:03:02 2016 <ct|kyle>	z-man: simple iptabes rule to fix that
Feb 14 12:03:59 2016 <z-man>	Yeah, that works, too.
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Feb 15 01:22:08 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 15 17:37:21 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 15 21:45:55 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: have you looked at ION yet https://github.com/google/ion
Feb 15 21:45:56 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: GitHub - google/ion: Ion (at github.com)
Feb 15 21:48:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no, but I'd heard of it
Feb 15 21:48:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	why does KTorrent keep crashing?  :(
Feb 15 21:50:10 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: Your ISP is messing with you?
Feb 15 21:50:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I think it's this magnet link not working somehow, and KTorrent is failing badly
Feb 15 21:50:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yep, there it went again
Feb 15 21:52:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	trying a different magnet link
Feb 15 21:52:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'm finally trying to rebuild my music collection, after the hard drive crash a year ago or so took it out
Feb 15 21:52:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	everything else on the hard drive survived, but not my music collection :(
Feb 15 21:53:12 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: ah, I hate when that happends
Feb 15 21:53:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I found all my old music backup cd's, but those were all downloaded from Napster during dialup era
Feb 15 21:53:31 2016 <ct|kyle>	always hard to find good quility of what you had
Feb 15 21:53:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	not if you know where to look, heh ;)
Feb 15 21:54:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	luckily for me, my collection is something like 50% out of print stuff, so the likelihood of getting sued is less
Feb 15 21:55:35 2016 <compguygene>	  this is why I keep all my music on Google music
Feb 15 21:55:49 2016 <compguygene>	Hard drive crashes don't matter
Feb 15 21:57:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	then I'd have to buy it
Feb 15 21:58:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and as previously mentioned, a lot of this stuff is out of print, so buying just isn't an option
Feb 15 22:05:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Some of the hardest-to-find stuff, I've managed to keep on CD all these years
Feb 15 22:06:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so I'm ripping those right now :)
Feb 15 22:06:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	CD's what are those?
Feb 15 22:08:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh
Feb 15 22:09:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I'll need to get an sdcard of some sort to make a backup when I've got my collection back together.  ;)
Feb 15 22:10:02 2016 <compguygene>	no.  I have never paid for google music, and about 70 percent of my music is pirated
Feb 15 22:10:09 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: just burn them to blu-ray
Feb 15 22:10:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	blu-ray?  What's that?
Feb 15 22:10:45 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh, actually, I don't have a blu-ray drive at all yet
Feb 15 22:11:16 2016 <compguygene>	google music wants your business so bad they will let you store 20,000 songs for free. and not pay a dime.
Feb 15 22:11:23 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: you are missing out on the joy of breaking encryption just to play them
Feb 15 22:11:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	compguygene: I'm sure they want you to legally own them, first.
Feb 15 22:12:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ct|kyle: there's no libdvdcss for blu-ray yet?
Feb 15 22:12:36 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: I have not really messed with it in 3 years
Feb 15 22:15:59 2016 <sinewav>	Lucifer_arma: How many GB is your collection? I think I have an extra 100GB SATA drive in an enclosure lying around.
Feb 15 22:16:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it was only 16
Feb 15 22:16:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but I need to expand our media center to include EVERYBODY's ;)
Feb 15 22:17:13 2016 <sinewav>	K let me know. I have like 5 external drives lying around and need like 1.
Feb 15 22:17:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I can take what you can give, we're perpetually short of hard drive space
Feb 15 22:17:45 2016 <compguygene>	it's a wink wink situation.  you agree to say legally own your music you upload (wink, wink) when you sign up.
Feb 15 22:17:58 2016 <compguygene>	and by that they let you upload what you want
Feb 15 22:24:00 2016 <sinewav>	Lucifer_arma: Actually, I'll take a look at what we have at work. I work for a non-profit and we are not allowed to sell defunct hardware so we e-waste a ton. A couple weeks ago I junked about 20 drives ranging from 250GB to 1TB.
Feb 15 22:24:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh wow, that'd be awesome
Feb 15 22:24:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	we're still using the old IDE drives, too, so if there're any of those...
Feb 15 22:25:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	actually, any hardware.  I'm collecting parts again.  Can pay for shipping.
Feb 15 22:25:23 2016 <sinewav>	I can probably send you a pair of drives for you to make a RAID 1 out of. You'll have to find your own nifty enclosure though.
Feb 15 22:25:50 2016 <sinewav>	I think we have a couple 4-bay NAS Units ready to Junk. I'll look into it.
Feb 15 22:25:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I can get them mounted and running ;)
Feb 15 22:26:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the ultimate plan is still a custom-mount situation, putting a computer inside an 80s stereo console to make it a full-blown modern media center
Feb 15 22:26:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	might even fix the turn-table at some point, because it has one :)
Feb 15 22:27:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	going afk for awhile, lemme know when you know, and we'll work out the details
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Feb 15 22:28:51 2016 <sinewav>	k

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Feb 16 21:38:02 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Would it be terribly hard to delete swag's troll account? |Phamton~Rider|@forums
Feb 16 21:40:05 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Lucifer_arma_? guru3?
Feb 16 21:41:05 2016 <AmarokNelg>	btw read that closely and dont confuse it with the real account
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Feb 16 21:54:04 2016 <ct|kyle>	AmarokNelg: guru3 would be the only one that could do it
Feb 16 21:54:12 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ah ok
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Feb 17 01:59:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	AmarokNelg: yeah, it takes owner privileges to delete accounts, and guru3 is on vacation.  He might still be able to do it, but he's pretty busy having Phun right now.  ;)
Feb 17 04:29:25 2016 -kloeri-	[Global Notice] It's upgrade all the things day which also means lots of reboots. This will unfortunately be quite noisy. Remember connecting to chat.freenode.net, stay calm and don't panic!  
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Feb 17 05:08:32 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 17 08:26:00 2016 -kloeri-	[Global Notice] And we're done for now with all the rebooting.. except for a single server that will be rebooted when it's done pretending it's a tree. Thank you for using freenode and have a great day.  
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Feb 17 23:16:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 18 00:09:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 18 00:09:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ok, so now my internet's working fine
Feb 18 00:09:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	probably got jealous when I used my phone, heh
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Feb 18 19:18:41 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: pong
Feb 18 19:18:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ct|kyle: ping
Feb 18 19:21:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I love being ponged and then ignored.  That's one of my favorite things.  ;)
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Feb 18 19:58:02 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: heh :P
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Feb 18 20:40:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	]ping
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Feb 18 20:40:34 2016 *	Lucifer_arma_ is now known as Lucifer
Feb 18 20:41:02 2016 <Lucifer>	my step-daughter just sang "His name is Lucifer, and he's here to take your assifer"
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Feb 18 20:42:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	]ping
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Feb 18 21:47:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	]ping
Feb 18 21:47:44 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 18 21:49:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Lucifer_arma_: do you enjoy pinging bots?
Feb 18 21:49:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	it's a hobby
Feb 18 21:49:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	welp
Feb 18 21:49:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	actually, I'm doing it to see if my internet connection is working.
Feb 18 21:49:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ah ok
Feb 18 21:53:35 2016 <dMoult>	bot ping pong
Feb 18 21:53:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ping
Feb 18 21:53:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: pong
Feb 18 21:53:44 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]ping
Feb 18 21:53:45 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 18 21:53:55 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@ping
Feb 18 21:53:56 2016 <dbdbot>	pong
Feb 18 21:54:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	can I ask why master 4 is down, lucifer?
Feb 18 21:55:02 2016 <AmarokNelg>	it feels like it's been down for uhhh
Feb 18 21:55:07 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma_: 32 psi, that is getting close to the low, after running it for a while it may decline?
Feb 18 21:55:10 2016 <AmarokNelg>	actually I should check to make sure its still down
Feb 18 21:55:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	you know, supybot has an easter egg where if you start your line with /nick, you can force them all to change their nicknames.
Feb 18 21:55:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	Try it:  /nick Dumbass
Feb 18 21:55:47 2016 <ct|kyle>	]echo /nick dumbass
Feb 18 21:55:47 2016 <ljrbot>	/nick dumbass
Feb 18 21:55:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	ct|kyle: that was at idle
Feb 18 21:55:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	yep master 4 is down :\
Feb 18 21:56:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	AmarokNelg: that's mine, isn't it?
Feb 18 21:56:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	gotta run.  Kid needs meds, and I need to take a shit.
Feb 18 21:56:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	if your name is dave fancella, then yes
Feb 18 21:56:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	otherwise, no
Feb 18 21:56:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	xD
Feb 18 21:56:43 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma_: yes, but it you drive it for a while, it may get lower at idle
Feb 18 21:57:27 2016 <ct|kyle>	I just know how much stuff that i've had go bad that passed the tests when i wad first having symtems but latter was the problem
Feb 18 21:57:51 2016 <ct|kyle>	I had a starter that when we took in for the core, they tested it and it passed
Feb 18 21:57:59 2016 <ct|kyle>	2 times before it failed
Feb 18 22:00:53 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma_: I drove for 2-3 months on a bad alternator that tested fine
Feb 18 22:03:00 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma_: not saying it is the fuel pump, but i would not completely rule it out either
Feb 18 22:21:05 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:21:06 2016 <nelg-bot>	Master server rejected me!
Feb 18 22:21:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master2.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:21:51 2016 <nelg-bot>	Master server rejected me!
Feb 18 22:21:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master2.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:21:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 2; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 18 22:21:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine.
Feb 18 22:23:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!admin REBOOT
Feb 18 22:23:25 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Rebooting process, please be patient...
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Feb 18 22:23:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master2.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:24:05 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ping
Feb 18 22:24:06 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: pong
Feb 18 22:24:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master2.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:24:41 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 1; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 18 22:24:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
Feb 18 22:24:47 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master1.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:24:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 1; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 18 22:24:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
Feb 18 22:24:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master3.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:24:55 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 1; version_min 0; version_max 16
Feb 18 22:24:56 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
Feb 18 22:25:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:25:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	Master server rejected me!
Feb 18 22:35:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	ct|kyle: I could do a more thorouogh check on it
Feb 18 22:53:52 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:54:04 2016 <nelg-bot>	Master server rejected me!
Feb 18 22:54:12 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Lucifer_arma_: when is the master server going back up then? :P
Feb 18 22:54:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	oh right, heh
Feb 18 22:54:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	maybe when I figure out where it's actually running....
Feb 18 22:54:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	$ host master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 22:54:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	master4.armagetronad.net is an alias for master4.armagetronad.org.
Feb 18 22:54:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	master4.armagetronad.org is an alias for armagetron.davefancella.com.
Feb 18 22:54:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	armagetron.davefancella.com is an alias for www.davefancella.com.
Feb 18 22:54:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	www.davefancella.com is an alias for redirect.davefancella.com.
Feb 18 22:54:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	redirect.davefancella.com has address 167.88.120.201
Feb 18 22:56:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	shit
Feb 18 22:59:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	erm, why can't my armagetronad user execute bash?
Feb 18 23:03:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 23:03:06 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 1; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 18 23:03:07 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
Feb 18 23:03:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	AmarokNelg:
Feb 18 23:03:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 18 23:03:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 1; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 18 23:03:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
Feb 18 23:06:26 2016 <AmarokNelg>	huh my internet is being slow suddenly
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Feb 19 08:45:54 2016 -spb-	[Global Notice] We've made some changes to the way we do things in light of the recent events that so many of you have commented on. If you're interested, read more at https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/
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Feb 19 20:25:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guru3: I just had the crazy idea to setup a permanent port redirect that's not port 80, but would require port-knocking to use, that would still allow you to ssh to my server from another place
Feb 19 20:25:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	is it worth it to you?  Also, if it is, what port should I use?  Not sure which ports can be reliably expected to be available through any firewall.
Feb 19 20:51:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 19 20:51:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
Feb 19 20:51:46 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 19 20:52:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	AmarokNelg: Where's your bot?  I wanted to see if my master server was still running
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Feb 19 21:48:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh, my server's in Atlanta
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Feb 19 22:32:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	woohoo!  Now I get a text notification whenever someone logs in to my server :)
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Feb 19 23:11:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	guru3: what's the upload file size limit on the forums?  ;)
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Feb 20 07:56:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Lucifer_arma: it keeps pinging out for some bizzare reason... I have yet to figure out why because it seems to reply to all of the pings from the IRC
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Feb 20 20:22:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 20 20:22:24 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 1; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 20 20:22:24 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
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Feb 20 21:09:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Poor Cruz.  Thought he might win after Ioway, but now he's stuck in third place twice in a row.
Feb 20 21:12:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	whoah, Bush just quit
Feb 20 21:12:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I wonder who he's going to endorse
Feb 20 21:12:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Rubio?  The other Floridian?
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Feb 21 02:45:00 2016 <sinewav>	OK!
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Feb 21 19:17:54 2016 <aP|Kevin>	Why does my windows version of armagetron have a different textured plane than my linux version of armagetron?
Feb 21 19:18:01 2016 <aP|Kevin>	on windows it was green, on linux it is blue.
Feb 21 19:19:04 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: Windows does not know colors?
Feb 21 19:19:25 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: is it supposed to be blue?
Feb 21 19:19:44 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: I'm not even sure what you ar refering to
Feb 21 19:20:56 2016 <aP|Kevin>	the default grid when you are playing the game with no moviepack
Feb 21 19:21:22 2016 <aP|Kevin>	the floor
Feb 21 19:21:53 2016 <aP|Kevin>	you can change how it looks in display settings to "textured plane" "dual textured plane" or "just grid"
Feb 21 19:21:59 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: it's a configuration, so probbaoly just differnt from the versions you installed
Feb 21 19:23:27 2016 <aP|Kevin>	also weird... I struggled to get over 70fps or so on windows but on linux I get 300-500 easy.
Feb 21 19:24:15 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: depends on how optimized your GPU driver is for openGL
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Feb 21 19:35:36 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: where do you play at?
Feb 21 19:45:13 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: styball tourney on saturday, but i have not played in a month
Feb 21 19:45:57 2016 <dHod>	styball tourney? any open spots left?
Feb 21 19:46:09 2016 <ct|kyle>	http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=CTStyball
Feb 21 19:46:11 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: CTStyball - Armagetron Advanced Wiki (at wiki.armagetronad.org)
Feb 21 19:46:58 2016 <dHod>	ah 4 teams rn
Feb 21 19:47:01 2016 <dHod>	its Deso btw
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Feb 21 20:21:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]about
Feb 21 20:21:30 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: Error: "about" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 20:21:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@about
Feb 21 20:21:35 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: "about" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 20:21:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@whoownsthisbot
Feb 21 20:21:39 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: "whoownsthisbot" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 20:21:43 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@owner
Feb 21 20:21:44 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: "owner" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 20:21:55 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@list
Feb 21 20:21:56 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, Dunno, Filter, Format, Google, Herald, Internet, Later, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Owner, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Relay, Reply, Seen, Status, Success, Time, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
Feb 21 20:22:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@commands
Feb 21 20:22:09 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\:, action, add, alert, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, aol, apply, apropos, as, at, azn, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, blank, bold, c, cache, calc, can, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, (5 more messages)
Feb 21 20:22:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@more
Feb 21 20:22:18 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: capitalize, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, cmd, color, colorize, commands, concat, config, convert, cpu, crypt, ctime, ctwf, cut, cycle, dbdbot, dbdclan, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, dns, doctype, echo, echoraph, edbomb, elapsed, enable, errno, error\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\:, (4 more messages)
Feb 21 20:22:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@more
Feb 21 20:22:23 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: export, fetch, ffa, field, fight, fit, flush, format, fortune, fu, fuckyou, fuwwbot, get, gnu, google, grab, halfop, headers, hebrew, help, hexip, hexlify, hi, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, icalc, identify, ignore, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, info, insert, invite, ircquote, jeffk, join, kban, key, kick, killsimitry, killsimitryunread, (3 more messages)
Feb 21 20:22:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@more
Feb 21 20:22:28 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: killstshitstorm, ladle, ladlebrackets, ladlecb, last, lastseen, leet, limit, list, lithp, load, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, lock, log, lower, ls, lucky, m, mdfk, moar, mode, moderate, more, morse, net, netcraft, nick, notes, notice, nou, op, outfilter, pang, part, paste, pastebinception, pathetique, phonebook, pid, ping, pm, pong, private, punch, qg, quit, quote, (2 more messages)
Feb 21 20:22:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@more
Feb 21 20:22:31 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: rainbow, random, rank, rdclan, rdclannews, redo, register, reload, remove, rename, reorder, replace, reply, repr, restore, reverse, rot13, rpn, rss, said, sbt, sc, scramble, search, seconds, seen, separator, server, serverinfo, serverlist, set, set password, set secure, shovel, shrink, shuffle, si, size, slap, soul_, source, spam, spell, spellit, squish, stats, status, stfu, stripcolor, (1 more message)
Feb 21 20:22:32 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@more
Feb 21 20:22:32 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: success, supa1337, swap, tell, thanks, threads, time, title, titslap, topic, translate, trontimes, tronwiki, ty, unban, underline, undo, undup, unhexlify, unidentify, units, uniud, unload, unlock, unmoderate, unmorse, unregister, unrename, until, upkeep, upper, uptime, urlquote, urlunquote, urnab, user, username, version, voice, whereintheworldis, whoami, whois, wst, wtf, xkcd, and ye
Feb 21 20:23:11 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@uptime
Feb 21 20:23:12 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: I have been running for 3 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, 28 minutes, and 6 seconds.
Feb 21 20:23:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	whew
Feb 21 20:23:49 2016 <aP|Kevin>	AmarokNelg: did you get my message?
Feb 21 20:23:52 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@calc
Feb 21 20:23:52 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
Feb 21 20:24:04 2016 <AmarokNelg>	no aP|Kevin, what message?
Feb 21 20:24:33 2016 <aP|Kevin>	HR-bot3.php was using tons of CPU
Feb 21 20:24:42 2016 <aP|Kevin>	so I killed it
Feb 21 20:26:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	hr bot 3 shouldnt even be in operation still
Feb 21 20:26:31 2016 <aP|Kevin>	well it was
Feb 21 20:27:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I presume you killed hr-bot-loop3 too?
Feb 21 20:27:40 2016 <aP|Kevin>	i killed just the bot3 and when it came back I killed every process on your username
Feb 21 20:28:01 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ah ok - thanks
Feb 21 20:29:11 2016 <aP|Kevin>	maybe you have a loop without a sleep in it that occasionally runs until triggered
Feb 21 20:53:04 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell text
Feb 21 20:53:06 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: "text" may be spelled correctly.
Feb 21 20:53:08 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell
Feb 21 20:53:09 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: (spell <word>) -- Returns the result of passing <word> to aspell/ispell. The results shown are sorted from best to worst in terms of being a likely match for the spelling of <word>.
Feb 21 20:53:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell kavin
Feb 21 20:53:29 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: Possible spellings for "kavin": Gavin, Kevin, Kalvin, Garvin, Kain, Kevina, Kevon, caving, Davin, Karin, Kevan, Gavan, Gaven, Keven, Kevyn, Jain, Kaine, carving, Arvin, avian, Kan, Kin, kin, Calvin, Galvin, Kelvin, kelvin, Cain, fain, gain, Fagin, Gavin's, and Kevin's.
Feb 21 20:53:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell kevin
Feb 21 20:53:42 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: Possible spellings for "kevin": Kevin, Kevina, Kevon, Kevan, Keven, Kevyn, Kelvin, kelvin, Levin, Evin, Bevin, Devin, Nevin, Gavin, and Kevin's.
Feb 21 20:53:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell Kevin
Feb 21 20:53:47 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: "Kevin" may be spelled correctly.
Feb 21 20:53:49 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell Nelg
Feb 21 20:53:50 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: Possible spellings for "Nelg": Ne lg, Ne-lg, Belg, Neg, Nell, and Nels.
Feb 21 20:53:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@spell nelg
Feb 21 20:53:54 2016 <dbdbot>	AmarokNelg: Possible spellings for "nelg": Belg, neg, Nell, and Nels.
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Feb 21 20:54:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!dict nelg
Feb 21 20:54:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: No definitions found for "nelg"
Feb 21 20:54:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	:\ sniff
Feb 21 20:55:02 2016 <AmarokNelg>	nelg is apparently not a word
Feb 21 20:55:10 2016 <aP|Kevin>	AmarokNelg: I restarted tron and came back you were gone.
Feb 21 20:55:17 2016 <aP|Kevin>	!dict glen
Feb 21 20:55:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	aP|Kevin: 4 definitions found
Feb 21 20:55:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	aP|Kevin: From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Feb 21 20:55:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	aP|Kevin:   Glen \Glen\, n. [Of Celtic origin; cf. W. glyn a deep valley,
Feb 21 20:55:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	aP|Kevin:      Ir. & Gael. gleann valley, glen.]
Feb 21 20:55:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	aP|Kevin:      A secluded and narrow valley; a dale; a depression between
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Feb 21 20:55:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	sad
Feb 21 20:56:04 2016 <aP|Kevin>	There is a place close to me called Glen Carbon
Feb 21 20:56:32 2016 <aP|Kevin>	also I have a weird white rectangle that appears while I play armagetron
Feb 21 20:56:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	screenshot?
Feb 21 20:58:08 2016 <aP|Kevin>	i dont know how to right now
Feb 21 20:59:32 2016 <AmarokNelg>	there is a button named "prnt screen" on your keyboard
Feb 21 20:59:57 2016 <AmarokNelg>	it will save your screenshot (presuming you're in full screen) into the userdatadir in a folder named screenshots
Feb 21 21:00:11 2016 <ct|kyle>	AmarokNelg: mine is named "Print Screen SysRq"
Feb 21 21:00:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	it depends on the kayboard but its usually about the same
Feb 21 21:00:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	keyboard*
Feb 21 21:02:05 2016 <aP|Kevin>	i sent it to you
Feb 21 21:02:52 2016 <aP|Kevin>	the printsc button wasnt working for me.  it wasnt putting anything in clipboard and it wasnt saving a screenshot.  I had to set it in global keyboard config
Feb 21 21:03:58 2016 <aP|Kevin>	http://imgur.com/a/ShRX0
Feb 21 21:03:59 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (at imgur.com)
Feb 21 21:05:15 2016 <aP|Kevin>	it appears even when playing
Feb 21 21:05:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	huh i've never seen anything like that
Feb 21 21:08:36 2016 <aP|Kevin>	it stops for a second after each round
Feb 21 21:08:41 2016 <aP|Kevin>	then starts back up again
Feb 21 21:09:21 2016 <aP|Kevin>	and on the "waiting for real players screen" it does not appear
Feb 21 21:12:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Lucifer_arma any ideas?
Feb 21 21:15:29 2016 <ct|kyle>	version / os
Feb 21 21:15:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	is armagetron the only game this happens in, kevin?
Feb 21 21:16:03 2016 <ct|kyle>	(as i saidthat i remembered version was in ss
Feb 21 21:16:30 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ss?
Feb 21 21:16:37 2016 <ct|kyle>	screen scot
Feb 21 21:16:41 2016 <ct|kyle>	shot*
Feb 21 21:16:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	man you're full of typos today
Feb 21 21:17:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	trying to stay up as long as P4?
Feb 21 21:17:22 2016 <ct|kyle>	happends when i type too much
Feb 21 21:17:36 2016 <aP|Kevin>	armagetron 0.4 z2299, Linux Kernel 4.4.2
Feb 21 21:17:53 2016 <aP|Kevin>	its the only app that it happens in
Feb 21 21:18:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	any other applications using opengl?
Feb 21 21:18:41 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: and always same position?
Feb 21 21:19:17 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: when I first start armagetron it is huge and in the middle of the screen but only for a few seconds.  otherwise it is in the corner like that screenshot shows
Feb 21 21:19:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	what was the exact GPU again?
Feb 21 21:20:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	a nvidia something, right?
Feb 21 21:20:17 2016 <aP|Kevin>	Nvidia Geforce 940M using the 361.28 driver
Feb 21 21:20:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	M as in Mobility?
Feb 21 21:20:40 2016 <aP|Kevin>	yes
Feb 21 21:20:55 2016 <aP|Kevin>	so I have nvidia and intel graphics
Feb 21 21:21:07 2016 <aP|Kevin>	switching between them is a pain so I force it to always use nvidia
Feb 21 21:21:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	its funny my dell laptop has a mobile thing but theres no way to switch to any other card option
Feb 21 21:22:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	(its the amd/ati thing I was talking about yesterday, remember?)
Feb 21 21:22:13 2016 <aP|Kevin>	how new is that laptop?  what cpu/gpu?
Feb 21 21:22:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dunno the age of the laptop hmm
Feb 21 21:23:00 2016 <aP|Kevin>	the switchable graphics is only on Core i3/i5/i7 computers as far as I know
Feb 21 21:23:07 2016 <ct|kyle>	did you compile it or is it from a binary
Feb 21 21:23:13 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: compiled
Feb 21 21:23:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	maybe you can compile without using SDL2?
Feb 21 21:23:48 2016 <aP|Kevin>	95% of what is running on my computer is compiled.
Feb 21 21:24:13 2016 <aP|Kevin>	but SDL2 gave me better FPS..
Feb 21 21:24:29 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: LFS?
Feb 21 21:24:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	no I think he's using gentoo
Feb 21 21:25:12 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: gentoo
Feb 21 21:26:46 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: what desktop?
Feb 21 21:27:07 2016 <aP|Kevin>	xfce4 right now.  havent installed systemd so I cant use gnome yet :(
Feb 21 21:27:45 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dislike gnome... especially gnome 3
Feb 21 21:27:47 2016 <AmarokNelg>	lol
Feb 21 21:27:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	KDE :)
Feb 21 21:27:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	^
Feb 21 21:28:18 2016 <ct|kyle>	(althought from tron it is so much more FPS starting it isn it's own xscreen session
Feb 21 21:28:22 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I have KDE Plasma but the gentoo plasma-meta package didnt bring in anything more than the KDE basics
Feb 21 21:28:29 2016 <ct|kyle>	although for*
Feb 21 21:28:47 2016 <ct|kyle>	(damn i cannot type tonight)
Feb 21 21:29:38 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I am using X and not wayland.
Feb 21 21:29:46 2016 <aP|Kevin>	wayland doesnt work with nvidia
Feb 21 21:30:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	+aP|Kevin the laptop is from around 2003
Feb 21 21:30:48 2016 <aP|Kevin>	AmarokNelg: that is ancient. laptops didnt have switchable graphics back then
Feb 21 21:31:01 2016 <ct|kyle>	aP|Kevin: you could try downgrading or upgrading the nvidia driver, I know they have been hit or miss in the past for me, but i really think something else may be broken
Feb 21 21:31:01 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: could --enable-particles do this?
Feb 21 21:31:58 2016 <ct|kyle>	I was thinking maybe it is something with FTGL
Feb 21 21:32:04 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@aP|Kevin the specs aren't too bad, its a lot faster than my 1999 toshiba was
Feb 21 21:32:05 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: "aP|Kevin" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 21:32:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	LOL nice dbdbot 
Feb 21 21:32:44 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	considering where it's at, I'm wondering if it's FTGL
Feb 21 21:32:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	aP|Kevin: you're building from source, right?  Now running a snapshot?
Feb 21 21:32:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	*Not
Feb 21 21:32:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	--enable-particles *could* do that
Feb 21 21:33:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's worth trying to rebuild it without that library, especially since none of it has been implemented anyway
Feb 21 21:33:31 2016 <aP|Kevin>	without ftgl?
Feb 21 21:33:33 2016 *	Lucifer_arma thinks the default option for that is 'no'
Feb 21 21:33:44 2016 <aP|Kevin>	Lucifer_arma: lol I enabled everything
Feb 21 21:33:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no, without particles
Feb 21 21:34:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ftgl is required
Feb 21 21:34:53 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ok so is there any reason I would want to enable more stuff than defaults?  any reason I shouldnt?
Feb 21 21:35:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	does the rectangle appear during the splash screen, or just the UI?
Feb 21 21:36:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	anything that's not default is experimental, so you should stick with the defaults
Feb 21 21:36:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	do a make distclean and then start over
Feb 21 21:37:39 2016 <aP|Kevin>	yes, splash screen
Feb 21 21:38:21 2016 <aP|Kevin>	armagetron 0.2.8 is so old though.  if I am going with 0.4 I thought I might as well get the most experimental of everything
Feb 21 21:38:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	....lol?
Feb 21 21:38:35 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh, ftgl is what gives us this beautiful font, and theoretically the option to really translate into lots of languages
Feb 21 21:38:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	what's still experimental in 0.4 is probably stuff that will not make it to the release anyway
Feb 21 21:40:17 2016 <aP|Kevin>	does any server use krawall?
Feb 21 21:40:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no.  I thought krawall was removed
Feb 21 21:40:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that was something z-man did many many years ago on contract
Feb 21 21:41:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I don't think even he knows if it works at all anymore
Feb 21 21:41:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	what is krawall?
Feb 21 21:41:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but in any case, it would only be triggered if you logged into one of krawall's servers, and I don't think they even exist as a company anymore
Feb 21 21:41:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	AmarokNelg: I believe they were a German game services provider
Feb 21 21:42:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but I thought armathentication started with the krawall code, so it's possible it's removed everywhere except configure
Feb 21 21:42:52 2016 <aP|Kevin>	./configure CFLAGS="-march=native -pipe" CXXFLAGS="-march=native -pipe"
Feb 21 21:42:57 2016 <aP|Kevin>	so just do that and nothing else?
Feb 21 21:43:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I guess I could go grep it
Feb 21 21:43:07 2016 <ct|kyle>	should work
Feb 21 21:43:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	dave@Herman:~/Projects/armagetronad/0.4/src$ grep -Ir "krawall" *
Feb 21 21:43:43 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	network/nKrawall.cpp:    // TODO: Check for krawall adress
Feb 21 21:44:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the I option to grep makes it case insensitive, right?
Feb 21 21:44:24 2016 <ct|kyle>	remember to use "make -j99999999999" when you compile  (fried a new CPU installing getoo with that)
Feb 21 21:44:39 2016 <aP|Kevin>	ct|kyle: I use make -j4...
Feb 21 21:44:42 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh no, there's a bunch of krawall ifdef's still.
Feb 21 21:45:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, you need set LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS
Feb 21 21:45:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that one's important
Feb 21 21:45:22 2016 <aP|Kevin>	do get something done under contract, how much does that cost approximately?
Feb 21 21:45:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	depends on the something?
Feb 21 21:46:29 2016 <ct|kyle>	I prefer the CT_EXTRA_RUBBER patch i apply to all CT servers :)
Feb 21 21:46:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that was the only time anybody made any money directly off this game.  I got a job indirectly because I had written a plugin to MamboCMS to show player stats on a server
Feb 21 21:46:54 2016 <aP|Kevin>	the motion blur feature doesnt work on my GPU
Feb 21 21:47:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it may not work at all, heh
Feb 21 21:47:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	iirc, all it does is render 2-3 frames at a time to give an illusion of blur
Feb 21 21:47:36 2016 <aP|Kevin>	my GPU isnt connected to my display directly - no app that uses vsync actually works right
Feb 21 21:48:40 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	what's it connected to?
Feb 21 21:48:40 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	switch?
Feb 21 21:49:00 2016 <aP|Kevin>	Lucifer_arma: it is a Nvidia optimus card
Feb 21 21:49:31 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I use xrandr commands to make my card output to my screen
Feb 21 21:49:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	<--- not a hardware guy
Feb 21 21:50:28 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I would like to be able to throttle to a specific FPS and not go too much over.
Feb 21 21:51:01 2016 <aP|Kevin>	long tron sessions burn by legs
Feb 21 21:51:12 2016 <ct|kyle>	lol
Feb 21 21:51:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I thought we had a way to limit fps
Feb 21 21:52:11 2016 <aP|Kevin>	just wait for vsync or dont wait
Feb 21 21:52:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I know we have a way to limit the simulation framerate, I seem to remember asking for that one, heh
Feb 21 21:53:03 2016 <aP|Kevin>	since my 3D GPU is different than my display GPU, opengl apps dont see a refresh rate
Feb 21 21:53:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	theres features that were in the older arma that are no longer in the new arma... I've wondered about that
Feb 21 21:54:22 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	like what?
Feb 21 21:55:33 2016 *	Lucifer_arma doesn't remember any features that got removed.
Feb 21 21:56:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	like Persp. Correction, Line Antialiasing, Polygon Antial.
Feb 21 21:57:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ZTrick
Feb 21 21:58:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ztrick was removed, iirc, because the double-buffering was added
Feb 21 21:58:19 2016 <AmarokNelg>	what about the other things, then?
Feb 21 21:58:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	those others, I don't see them as "features" so much as they were ways to make your 3d card work faster by disabling shit.  So they're either always enabled now,
Feb 21 21:58:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	or most modern GPUs made them irrelevant.
Feb 21 21:59:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you gotta remember the codebase goes back like 15 years and consider the types of cards that needed to be supported along the way.
Feb 21 21:59:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the "features" might still be there, just removed from the UI.
Feb 21 22:00:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you'll have to ask z-man about then if/when he shows up again and is talkative
Feb 21 22:00:44 2016 <AmarokNelg>	theres no antialiasing in the commands list on 0.4 as far as I can see
Feb 21 22:03:16 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I saw someone online made a opengles port of armagetron that works on raspberripi
Feb 21 22:04:10 2016 <AmarokNelg>	wasn't there already an official port to raspberry pi?
Feb 21 22:05:37 2016 <aP|Kevin>	armapitron is only 0.2.8.3.2
Feb 21 22:05:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	http://three.guru/armapitron/
Feb 21 22:05:39 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Armapitron - Armagetron Advanced for the Raspberry Pi (at three.guru)
Feb 21 22:05:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ah
Feb 21 22:12:19 2016 <aP|Kevin>	what about a Android port, including online play of course.
Feb 21 22:13:35 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I believe there was an iOS port or something, but no android :\
Feb 21 22:14:01 2016 <dHod>	lets make one! ha ha ha
Feb 21 22:14:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	someone could be like a developer of neverball and remake one for java
Feb 21 22:15:40 2016 <aP|Kevin>	I would be willing to put $100 towards that goal.
Feb 21 22:17:16 2016 <dHod>	i would definitely help work on one
Feb 21 22:17:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	durf is apparently working on a web armagetron but I dont think its even going to use the same master server (I think that would be a bit of a mistake)
Feb 21 22:17:52 2016 <aP|Kevin>	android port of armagetron 0.4.  left half of screen touch sensitive to turning left. right half of screen touch sensitive to turning right.  two finger tap for double bind play
Feb 21 22:18:11 2016 <AmarokNelg>	keyboard compatibility (if your device has an external keyboard0 please...
Feb 21 22:18:36 2016 <aP|Kevin>	AmarokNelg: i think they would have to remove that for it to not work
Feb 21 22:18:45 2016 <dHod>	forums are still down?
Feb 21 22:18:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dont think so
Feb 21 22:19:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	make sure you're typing forums3.armagetronad.net
Feb 21 22:19:19 2016 <AmarokNelg>	not just forums.armagetronad.net
Feb 21 22:19:54 2016 <dHod>	well in any case the link to forums at armagetronad.net should be updated
Feb 21 22:22:11 2016 <AmarokNelg>	well just for now, be sure to use forums3 instead of just forums
Feb 21 22:22:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	unless you're on certain connections :P
Feb 21 22:23:01 2016 <dHod>	ominous
Feb 21 22:29:00 2016 <aP|Kevin>	AmarokNelg: did you find out why hr-bot3 was using so much cpu?
Feb 21 22:29:29 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I never checked and hr-bot3 isnt going to be used - hopefully it doesnt happen with any of the other bots
Feb 21 22:30:38 2016 <dHod>	wait what is this: <http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23073>
Feb 21 22:30:40 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Good News: Android Port (at forums3.armagetronad.net)
Feb 21 22:31:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	an april fools
Feb 21 22:31:19 2016 <dHod>	oh
Feb 21 22:31:21 2016 <dHod>	ya
Feb 21 22:31:22 2016 <dHod>	nvm
Feb 21 22:31:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	basically, its a crappy clone of armagetron without internet play or anything
Feb 21 22:32:03 2016 <dHod>	still a sweet in depth joke haha
Feb 21 22:33:24 2016 <dHod>	well any actual interest in one?
Feb 21 22:34:11 2016 <aP|Kevin>	dHod: I have $100 worth of interest
Feb 21 22:35:30 2016 <dHod>	i'd get behind it but i'm still a student, not sure how much i can spearhead an effort like that
Feb 21 22:35:36 2016 <dHod>	i'll be back in a little bit
Feb 21 22:36:07 2016 <aP|Kevin>	$100 isnt much to someone who isnt a student
Feb 21 22:36:57 2016 <dHod>	heh ya i know
Feb 21 22:37:19 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I may be able to help... I know a little bit of python, some php, a tiny bit of C++ (probably not enough.)
Feb 21 22:37:30 2016 <dHod>	not necessarily much to me either :)
Feb 21 22:37:42 2016 <dHod>	im best in java and python
Feb 21 22:38:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	php is probably my best xD
Feb 21 22:39:08 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I know enough html/css/js to make a functional website like http://armanelgtron.tk
Feb 21 22:39:13 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: ArmaNelgTron.tk (at armanelgtron.tk)
Feb 21 22:40:49 2016 <dHod>	hmm nice :) i like it
Feb 21 22:40:58 2016 <dHod>	ok actually bbiab this time
Feb 21 22:42:12 2016 <AmarokNelg>	bbiab?
Feb 21 22:42:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh
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Feb 21 23:36:17 2016 <dHod>	AmarokNelg yup!
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Feb 22 00:54:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	wow, poor guy got sucked in by 2 april fool's pranks
Feb 22 00:54:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	in better news, turns out I'd make a great president.  I was opposed to the war in Iraq before it happened, and every day it was happening.
Feb 22 00:54:59 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	LuciForPresident!
Feb 22 01:05:19 2016 <dHod>	i literally read the titles and one sentence, sent the link, went back to reading and figured it out
Feb 22 01:08:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, I quit.  I took my two lines of code out of arma and am currently making an all new one for a private studio
Feb 22 01:08:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you know, since we're on pranks :)
Feb 22 01:08:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	more importantly, unlike Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and all the other republicans, I was always against the war in Iraq
Feb 22 01:09:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so vote for me.  Write me in.  If you aren't American, write me in on your forged ballot.
Feb 22 01:10:35 2016 <dHod>	i read that one too :)
Feb 22 01:10:54 2016 <dHod>	ill be sure to write you in
Feb 22 01:10:59 2016 <dHod>	"Lucifer"
Feb 22 01:11:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	make sure you spell it right
Feb 22 01:11:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that looks good
Feb 22 01:11:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	none of that _arma crap, that's only for freenode
Feb 22 01:11:19 2016 <dHod>	would "Beezlebub" be acceptable
Feb 22 01:11:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no.  He's my veep
Feb 22 01:11:35 2016 <dHod>	oh of course
Feb 22 01:11:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	he also holds Trump's contract
Feb 22 01:12:26 2016 <dHod>	i'll grab hillary clinton's domain name when she forgets to renew and redirect it to luciferispresident.com
Feb 22 01:12:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and he spells him name these days a BL Zebub
Feb 22 01:12:45 2016 *	Lucifer_arma actually giggled out loud a little bit
Feb 22 01:13:06 2016 <dHod>	hehe
Feb 22 01:13:24 2016 <dHod>	you said you're doing android stuff now?
Feb 22 01:13:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you know, if arma were to ever be big enough for me to go to Comicon or something like that, I'll totally wear a sexy devil costume
Feb 22 01:13:48 2016 <dHod>	hahahahaha
Feb 22 01:13:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	no, my 'droid tablet's keyboard is crankier than guru3
Feb 22 01:13:54 2016 <dHod>	well that's now the goal
Feb 22 01:14:28 2016 <dHod>	arma will soon takeover the world and the original tron storyline can actually happen
Feb 22 01:14:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and I'll get on stage and say "Hello.  My name is Lucifer.  And I'm here to kick your assifer."
Feb 22 01:15:32 2016 <dHod>	i can see it now, signs made with the default instant chats written on them "Only idiots keep their chats at default values"
Feb 22 01:16:35 2016 <dHod>	i'm off to bed
Feb 22 01:16:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh, 'night
Feb 22 01:16:46 2016 <dHod>	bb
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Feb 22 16:23:36 2016 <AmarokNelg>	how secure would you rate these passwords? :o
Feb 22 16:23:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!generate password
Feb 22 16:23:37 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: wyJV24aE
Feb 22 16:23:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!generate password
Feb 22 16:23:39 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: ECSpzX67
Feb 22 16:23:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!generate password
Feb 22 16:23:41 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Onf0pfcr
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Feb 22 16:34:16 2016 <Lightron>	A symbol or two would make it better, along with being at least 9 characters.  8 characters have become such a standard that it's usually the first shot at brute forcing.  They are though, better than most people use.
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Feb 22 17:02:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!generate password
Feb 22 17:02:07 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: 4O2ry5Sj
Feb 22 17:02:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!generate password
Feb 22 17:02:25 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: !zNgIH0VI
Feb 22 17:02:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	there its now printing 9 chars
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Feb 22 20:23:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 22 21:11:53 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!checkmaster master4.armagetronad.net
Feb 22 21:11:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	clientid 2; version_min 0; version_max 17
Feb 22 21:11:55 2016 <nelg-bot>	Seemed to go fine. (after 1 tries)
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Feb 22 21:38:02 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup
Feb 22 21:38:02 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
Feb 22 21:52:30 2016 <AmarokNelg>       !admin CHANNELS
Feb 22 21:52:30 2016 <nelg-bot> AmarokNelg: #armagetron, #armagetron.tourneys, #crazytronners
Feb 22 21:53:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>      !join luke-jrisanasshat
Feb 22 21:53:33 2016 <nelg-bot>  Lucifer_arma: Insufficient access rights!
Feb 22 21:54:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>      haha, I have a character who's an idiot blowhard running for president, named Ronald Spade.
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Feb 23 02:49:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma>      Wooo!  I think Rubio's about to knock Cruz out of the race!  That's exciting!
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Feb 23 04:19:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>      I started thinking I should add ?humane suicide for fat people? to my platform, because there were clearly some fat bitches out there who needed this option in their lives.
Feb 23 04:19:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>      Man, my lead character is really an asshole.
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Feb 23 15:59:04 2016 <theocrite> "<Lucifer_ar>  Wooo!  I think Rubio's about to knock Cruz out of the race" <= That's racist!!!!11!
Feb 23 15:59:22 2016 <theocrite> Ok => []
Feb 23 16:03:35 2016 <AmarokNelg>       ?
Feb 23 16:11:05 2016 <theocrite> race... racist... get it? Oh my, that pun was terrible. I'm so lonely.
Feb 23 16:20:10 2016 <AmarokNelg>       its also a suprisingly popular pun now
Feb 23 16:23:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>       it seems the IRC logging system has managed to break itself... http://armanelgtron.tk/armagetronad/IRC/?log=armagetron&month=2016@Feb :(
Feb 23 16:23:25 2016 <dbdbot>    Title: ArmaNelgTron.tk (at armanelgtron.tk)
Feb 23 16:26:14 2016 <AmarokNelg>       "**** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 22 21:36:28 2016" :o
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Feb 23 16:54:05 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup
Feb 23 16:54:05 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 24 01:43:59 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping'
Feb 24 01:43:59 2016 <ljrbot>	Lucifer_arma: Error: "ping'" is not a valid command.
Feb 24 01:44:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 24 17:27:01 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	]ping
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Feb 24 17:49:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	aP|Kevin: are you around?
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Feb 24 20:55:03 2016 <aP|Kevin>	AmarokNelg: Yes I am.
Feb 24 20:55:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	aP|Kevin: 3 hours later
Feb 24 20:55:54 2016 <aP|Kevin>	Can you get head to increase the max clients?
Feb 24 20:57:23 2016 <aP|Kevin>	or... make server.bot leave so I can join OMG HR?
Feb 24 20:59:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	I would increase max clients in exchange for head
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Feb 24 21:35:05 2016 *	Now talking on #armagetron
Feb 24 21:35:05 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup
Feb 24 21:35:05 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
Feb 24 21:39:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	aP|Kevin: sorry you should have included AmarokNelg within the message...
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Feb 24 21:53:46 2016 <ct|kyle>	AmarokNelg: should we include AmarokNelg will all messages?
Feb 24 21:54:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ct|kyle: all messages you speak, including ones that are not intended for me to read?
Feb 24 21:54:41 2016 <ct|kyle>	ok AmarokNelg
Feb 24 21:55:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	AmarokNelg: hey ct|kyle!  How are you doing!
Feb 24 21:56:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	]ping
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Feb 24 21:56:18 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma_: doing fine AmarokNelg
Feb 24 21:56:31 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	that's good to (AmarokNelg) hear
Feb 24 21:57:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	I'm retrogaming right now.  (AmarokNelg)  Playing Campaign Manager, you know, because it's an election year
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Feb 24 21:57:55 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I think I should put you guys on block for a few hours...
Feb 24 21:58:27 2016 *	Lucifer_arma_ chuckle out loud a bit
Feb 24 21:58:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	naming my democratic candidate AmarokNelg
Feb 24 21:59:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	you're a general from new york
Feb 24 21:59:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma_: you forgot the AmarokNelg in the last one
Feb 24 22:00:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	I didn't need it, I was talking directly to him.  Don't need it here either because I'm talking about him.
Feb 24 22:01:10 2016 <ct|kyle>	Ah yes, to him or about him we don't need it :)
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Feb 24 22:03:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=IRC_Channel doesnt mention dbdbot or nelg-bot
Feb 24 22:03:33 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: IRC Channel - Armagetron Advanced Wiki (at wiki.armagetronad.org)
Feb 24 22:03:43 2016 <AmarokNelg>	it mentions the dead Frobot though
Feb 24 22:03:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	does it still mention LuciBot or armabot?
Feb 24 22:04:01 2016 <AmarokNelg>	i see ljrbot
Feb 24 22:04:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dont see a Luci or Arma bot
Feb 24 22:04:13 2016 <AmarokNelg>	in the channel nor on the page
Feb 24 22:04:24 2016 <ct|kyle>	what about tronner?
Feb 24 22:04:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	LuciBot was first.  :)  name changed to armabot
Feb 24 22:04:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	so, where is it
Feb 24 22:04:50 2016 <ct|kyle>	she*
Feb 24 22:05:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	"it" is technically proper when you're talking about bots
Feb 24 22:05:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	she is resting
Feb 24 22:05:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	no, armabot is a she
Feb 24 22:05:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	then I'll call it a she I suppose, dont be suprised if I call it an it still
Feb 24 22:06:27 2016 <AmarokNelg>	in other words, I'll try to call it a she but I'll probably just call her an "it"
Feb 24 22:06:52 2016 <AmarokNelg>	also, you dont need that additional underscore after your name
Feb 24 22:06:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	just FYI
Feb 24 22:07:04 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	when I get myself setup with NickServ again, I'll bring her back, OP her, and have her boot you everytime you call her an it
Feb 24 22:07:19 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	my client did that automatically because my old instance hadn't timed out yet
Feb 24 22:08:26 2016 <ct|kyle>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY (At the end i was waiting for the Atlas to fight back)
Feb 24 22:08:26 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!chat #armagetron
Feb 24 22:08:28 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: This is disabled for secuirty reasons
Feb 24 22:08:32 2016 <AmarokNelg>	ugh hang on
Feb 24 22:08:49 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!chat #armagetron
Feb 24 22:09:30 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!chat #armagetron no, don't boot nelg!
Feb 24 22:09:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	sniff
Feb 24 22:09:57 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!admin CHAT #armagetron no, don't boot nelg!
Feb 24 22:09:57 2016 <nelg-bot>	no, don't boot nelg!
Feb 24 22:10:10 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!chat #armagetron no, don't boot nelg!
Feb 24 22:10:11 2016 <nelg-bot>	Message from AmarokNelg in #armagetron: no, don't boot nelg!
Feb 24 22:19:37 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	AmarokNelg won the election, 284 to 254, or something like that.
Feb 24 22:30:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma_>	]ping
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Feb 26 16:35:14 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:35:16 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 117 days, 7 hours, 50 minutes and 15 seconds away
Feb 26 16:35:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dont think that's right
Feb 26 16:36:13 2016 <ct|kyle>	lol
Feb 26 16:36:27 2016 <ct|kyle>	9 days
Feb 26 16:36:42 2016 <ct|kyle>	wait even the time is off
Feb 26 16:42:45 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:42:46 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 16838 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds away
Feb 26 16:42:49 2016 <AmarokNelg>	...
Feb 26 16:43:05 2016 <ct|kyle>	lol
Feb 26 16:44:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:44:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 19 days, 21 hours, 44 minutes and 47 seconds away
Feb 26 16:46:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:46:09 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 19 days, 21 hours, 46 minutes and 9 seconds away
Feb 26 16:47:00 2016 <ct|kyle>	off by 12
Feb 26 16:48:45 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:48:46 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 16857 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes and 45 seconds away
Feb 26 16:48:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	humph
Feb 26 16:49:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:49:57 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 16857 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 57 seconds away
Feb 26 16:50:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:50:34 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 16857 days, 21 hours, 50 minutes and 34 seconds away (date Mon Nov  5 20:09:26 CST 1923)
Feb 26 16:50:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dont think the next ladle is going to happen in 1923
Feb 26 16:51:25 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:51:26 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 16857 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes and 26 seconds away (date Mon Nov  5 20:08:34 CST 1923)
Feb 26 16:52:49 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:52:50 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 2 hours, 7 minutes and 11 seconds away (date Thu Jan  8 21:07:11 EST 1970)
Feb 26 16:53:09 2016 <ct|kyle>	at least we can time travel fast
Feb 26 16:53:36 2016 <AmarokNelg>	lol now the date stamp is wrong but the time untill the next ladle is semi-correct
Feb 26 16:53:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	until
Feb 26 16:53:54 2016 <ct|kyle>	wrong timezone
Feb 26 16:55:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
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Feb 26 16:56:03 2016 <AmarokNelg>	lol it crashed
Feb 26 16:56:08 2016 <ct|kyle>	lol
Feb 26 16:56:41 2016 <ct|kyle>	I will say 1 thing, i hate date based programming, but you take it to a whole new level if you have to use MS Sql server
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Feb 26 16:56:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:57:00 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 2 hours, 3 minutes and 1 seconds away (date Sat Mar  5 19:00:00 EST 2016)
Feb 26 16:57:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:57:15 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes and 45 seconds away (date Sat Mar  5 19:00:00 EST 2016)
Feb 26 16:57:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 16:57:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 7 hours, 2 minutes and 11 seconds away (date Sun Mar  6 00:00:00 EST 2016)
Feb 26 16:58:11 2016 <ct|kyle>	now GMT instead of EST
Feb 26 17:00:14 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:00:14 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 6 hours, 59 minutes and 46 seconds away (date Sun Mar  6 05:00:00 GMT 2016)
Feb 26 17:00:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	the hours are still off I think
Feb 26 17:01:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:01:09 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 6 hours, 58 minutes and 51 seconds away (date Sun Mar  6 05:00:00 GMT 2016)
Feb 26 17:01:38 2016 <ct|kyle>	should be about 21 hours
Feb 26 17:01:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	19 if you're looking at http://lightron.org/Ladle/
Feb 26 17:01:57 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Lightron - Ladle Countdown (at lightron.org)
Feb 26 17:06:35 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:06:36 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 6 hours, 53 minutes and 25 seconds away (05:00:00 UTC at March 6th)
Feb 26 17:08:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	this is coded so badly, im not sure if it should be any suprise its not working properly
Feb 26 17:09:27 2016 <ct|kyle>	why not write beeter code?
Feb 26 17:09:29 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:09:30 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3491 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes and 29 seconds away (August 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:09:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:09:40 2016 <nelg-bot>	ct|kyle: The next ladle is 3491 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes and 40 seconds away (August 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:11:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
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Feb 26 17:12:40 2016 <ct|kyle>	I'm just upgrading fedora 20 to 23 :P
Feb 26 17:12:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:12:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3491 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes and 48 seconds away (August 6th 2006 at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:13:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:13:23 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 1 hours, 46 minutes and 37 seconds away (March 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:14:10 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:14:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 45 minutes and 50 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:14:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:14:23 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 45 minutes and 38 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:14:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	well I made it worse xD
Feb 26 17:14:57 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:14:57 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 45 minutes and 3 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:15:00 2016 <ct|kyle>	unfortuantely KDE doe not properly load the default settings when it gets upgraded
Feb 26 17:15:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:15:15 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 44 minutes and 45 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:15:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:15:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 44 minutes and 18 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:15:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:15:59 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 44 minutes and 1 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:16:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:16:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 43 minutes and 50 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:16:32 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:16:33 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 1 hours, 43 minutes and 27 seconds away (March 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:16:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:16:43 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 3 days, 1 hours, 43 minutes and 17 seconds away (March 1st at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:17:52 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:17:53 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 1 hours, 42 minutes and 7 seconds away (March 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:18:02 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:18:02 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 1 hours, 41 minutes and 58 seconds away (March 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:19:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:19:01 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 1 hours, 41 minutes and 0 seconds away (March 6th at 00:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:19:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:19:34 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 14 hours, 40 minutes and 27 seconds away (March 6th at 13:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:19:43 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:19:43 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 19 hours, 40 minutes and 17 seconds away (March 6th at 18:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:19:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	well that took long enough xD
Feb 26 17:20:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:20:57 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 8 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes and 4 seconds away (March 6th at 18:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:22:02 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!list
Feb 26 17:22:03 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Commands: !help, !commands (!list), !about, !calc, !google, !weather, !dict, !scramble, !typo, !find, !lastseen, !servers, !slap, !md5, !sha1, !base64, !debase64, !bf, !say, !me, !ladle, !8ball, !date, !readtimer, !timer, !time, !generate, !copycat
Feb 26 17:22:03 2016 <Guest57901823>	It is Commands:.
Feb 26 17:22:21 2016 <AmarokNelg>	what kind of bot is Guest57901823 supposed to be?
Feb 26 17:42:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ct|kyle: date-based programming in python is easy
Feb 26 17:43:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!ladle
Feb 26 17:43:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: The next ladle is 8 days, 19 hours, 16 minutes and 51 seconds away (March 6th at 18:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 17:44:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!searchpi
Feb 26 17:44:53 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: I couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 26 17:45:01 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch
Feb 26 17:45:01 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Usage: !searchpi <integer> - Searches the first 10 thousand digits of pi for the integer number inputted
Feb 26 17:45:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 3
Feb 26 17:45:08 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 3 not found in pi!
Feb 26 17:45:14 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 14159
Feb 26 17:45:14 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 14159 not found in pi!
Feb 26 17:45:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	lol!
Feb 26 17:46:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 14159
Feb 26 17:46:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 14159 not found in pi!
Feb 26 17:47:26 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 14159
Feb 26 17:47:27 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 14159 not found in pi!
Feb 26 17:47:58 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 14159
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Feb 26 17:49:18 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 14159
Feb 26 17:49:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 14159 not found in pi!
Feb 26 17:49:27 2016 <AmarokNelg>	its weird
Feb 26 18:09:25 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 14159
Feb 26 18:09:26 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 14159 found at 99 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:09:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch  6555
Feb 26 18:09:34 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Usage: !searchpi <integer> - Searches the first 10 thousand digits of pi for the number inputted
Feb 26 18:09:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 65521
Feb 26 18:09:38 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 65521 found at 109 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:09:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 6552100
Feb 26 18:09:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 6552100 not found in pi!
Feb 26 18:09:45 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 54354353
Feb 26 18:09:46 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 54354353 not found in pi!
Feb 26 18:09:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 543
Feb 26 18:09:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 543 found at 10078 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:09:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 75474
Feb 26 18:09:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 75474 found at 103 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:09:57 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 754748
Feb 26 18:09:58 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 754748 found at 17 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:10:00 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 7547489
Feb 26 18:10:01 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 7547489 found at position[s] 5156761, 5156761, .
Feb 26 18:11:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 7547489
Feb 26 18:11:07 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 7547489 found at 2 position[s]: 5156761, 5156761, .
Feb 26 18:11:37 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh heh its listing the same position twice
Feb 26 18:12:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 7547489
Feb 26 18:12:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 7547489 found at 11 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:12:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 75474895
Feb 26 18:12:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 75474895 found at 3 position[s]: 14805100, 14805100, 61037056, .
Feb 26 18:13:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 75474895
Feb 26 18:13:18 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 75474895 found at 0 position[s]: 14805100, 14805100, 61037056, .
Feb 26 18:13:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 75474895
Feb 26 18:13:29 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 75474895 found at 3 position[s]: 14805100, 14805100, 61037056, .
Feb 26 18:14:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch
Feb 26 18:14:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Usage: !searchpi <integer> - Searches the first 10 thousand digits of pi for the number inputted
Feb 26 18:14:21 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh
Feb 26 18:14:26 2016 <AmarokNelg>	oh
Feb 26 18:14:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch
Feb 26 18:14:29 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Usage: !searchpi <integer> - Searches the first 100 thousand digits of pi for the number inputted
Feb 26 18:14:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 435098340958034985
Feb 26 18:14:43 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 435098340958034985 not found in pi!
Feb 26 18:14:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 43509834
Feb 26 18:14:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 43509834 found at 3 position[s]: 21449479, 21449479, 86637604, .
Feb 26 18:14:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 4350983445
Feb 26 18:14:51 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 4350983445 not found in pi!
Feb 26 18:14:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 4350983456
Feb 26 18:14:55 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 4350983456 not found in pi!
Feb 26 18:15:01 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 888
Feb 26 18:15:03 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 888 found at 100452 positions. To consume space, the locations are not listed.
Feb 26 18:15:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 888888888
Feb 26 18:15:07 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 888888888 found at 2 position[s]: 46663521, 46663521, .
Feb 26 18:15:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 888888888
Feb 26 18:15:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 888888888 found at 0 position[s]: 46663521.
Feb 26 18:16:17 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 888888888
Feb 26 18:16:19 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 888888888 found at 1 position[s]: 46663521.
Feb 26 18:16:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 8888888888888
Feb 26 18:16:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 8888888888888 not found in pi!
Feb 26 18:17:43 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I don't see how that should ever happen
Feb 26 18:18:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 46663521
Feb 26 18:19:01 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 46663521 found at 1 position[s]: 28885577.
Feb 26 18:30:04 2016 <aP|Kevin_>	wow lots of Nelgspam.
Feb 26 18:30:11 2016 *	aP|Kevin_ is now known as aP|Kevin
Feb 26 18:30:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	im testing a pi searcher
Feb 26 18:30:26 2016 <AmarokNelg>	well, not anymore, but I was
Feb 26 18:31:12 2016 <aP|Kevin>	and ladle
Feb 26 18:48:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you can't /msg your bot?
Feb 26 19:11:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I can
Feb 26 19:12:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	@ Lucifer_arma 
Feb 26 19:12:17 2016 -dbdbot/#armagetron-	AmarokNelg: Error: "Lucifer_arma" is not a valid command.
Feb 26 19:13:51 2016 <ct|kyle>	!ladle
Feb 26 19:13:52 2016 <nelg-bot>	ct|kyle: The next ladle is 8 days, 17 hours, 46 minutes and 9 seconds away (March 6th at 18:00:00 UTC)
Feb 26 19:15:04 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: wish i could use that at work, rather than javascipt php and m$sql
Feb 26 19:16:20 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	php isn't too bad
Feb 26 19:16:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	when you have good database drivers, anyway
Feb 26 19:16:55 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: yes but your limited to the mssql date stuff :P
Feb 26 19:17:08 2016 <AmarokNelg>	thats not even mysql
Feb 26 19:17:14 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that comes out as strings, doesn't it?
Feb 26 19:17:32 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	does php5 have operator override?
Feb 26 19:18:20 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: not sure if the version i use does
Feb 26 19:18:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	what version are you using?
Feb 26 19:18:48 2016 *	Lucifer_arma doesn't think php4 had operator override
Feb 26 19:20:18 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: i think 5.4.?
Feb 26 19:21:11 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: of cource i have to write web code to support IE9
Feb 26 19:27:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ct|kyle: http://pecl.php.net/package/operator  ?
Feb 26 19:27:12 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: PECL :: Package :: operator (at pecl.php.net)
Feb 26 19:28:55 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: not worth it
Feb 26 19:29:00 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it's written in c
Feb 26 19:29:13 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	yeah, not portable from one server to another unless they've installed the package
Feb 26 19:29:33 2016 <ct|kyle>	yes, and almost done with that project
Feb 26 19:29:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I used to make methods to handle arithmetic, so I could make a time object that can be added/subtracted
Feb 26 19:32:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	well, now I remember why I made my own datetime objects.  php4 didn't have them, heh
Feb 26 19:32:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and yeah, even with what's there for php5, I can see that being a big mess
Feb 26 19:38:35 2016 <ct|kyle>	Lucifer_arma: really my fun was the SQL server queries had to do intervals
Feb 26 19:38:55 2016 <ct|kyle>	and first week of the year and last week of the year are 2 different weeks :P
Feb 26 19:38:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	isn't there a standard function in SQL for that?
Feb 26 19:39:46 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I have to admit, I'm so spoiled by python that I would only have the database server do it's own functions if I thought I needed really high performance
Feb 26 19:40:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you should talk your company into switching to django, and then you'll be the happiest fucker around
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Feb 27 16:43:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]ping
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Feb 27 18:04:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 27 20:09:34 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	AmarokNelg: do you have code for your checkmaster bot that I could maybe use?
Feb 27 20:14:45 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I like how you worded that "that I could maybe use"
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Feb 27 21:49:02 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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Feb 27 22:07:56 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
Feb 27 22:08:13 2016 -NickServ-	Invalid password for AmarokNelg.
Feb 27 22:08:13 2016 -NickServ-	You are now identified for AmarokNelg.
Feb 27 22:08:13 2016 -NickServ-	1 failed login since last login.
Feb 27 22:08:13 2016 -NickServ-	Last failed attempt from: AmarokNelg2!~AmarokNel@50.102.69.102 on Feb 28 03:08:08 2016.
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Feb 27 22:48:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
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Feb 27 23:03:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]ping
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Feb 27 23:04:07 2016 <AmarokNelg>	hm
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Feb 28 09:37:21 2016 <compguygene>	 /msg NickServ identify billyb68
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Feb 28 11:54:40 2016 <AmarokNelg>	compguygene: is that a test to see how many people will try to login as you? I'm assuming that its an incorrect password...?
Feb 28 12:30:19 2016 <player_42>	But how would he find out how many people tried?
Feb 28 12:32:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	Upon next nickserv login, he'll see a count of the invalid passwords, and a list of who those connections were
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Feb 28 14:53:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!sha hi_bob
Feb 28 14:53:22 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: I couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 28 14:53:25 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!sha1 hi_bob
Feb 28 14:53:26 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: 8bb1f9f6add67cd4e9df9327900e09a03f3c7008
Feb 28 14:59:31 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]len The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog... Can you cook it?
Feb 28 14:59:31 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: 64
Feb 28 14:59:44 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!sha1 The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog... Can you cook it?
Feb 28 14:59:45 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: beda32a96b8a4aac8bf470aa92370f6f7a53e943
Feb 28 15:00:03 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!sha1 The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog... Can you cook it? 65521
Feb 28 15:00:03 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: 60e36c68fd8dc259a050b016edf5a3f2074cabb9
Feb 28 15:00:09 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]len The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog... Can you cook it? 65521
Feb 28 15:00:09 2016 <ljrbot>	AmarokNelg: 70
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Feb 28 21:28:43 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!base64 this_is_a_test
Feb 28 21:28:43 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: dGhpc19pc19hX3Rlc3Q=
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Feb 28 22:44:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!translate esttay
Feb 28 22:44:43 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: esttay
Feb 28 22:55:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate puto
Feb 28 22:55:07 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: fucking
Feb 28 22:55:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	naughty!
Feb 28 22:55:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	?  I thought it was more like "bitch"
Feb 28 22:55:40 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate gavron
Feb 28 22:55:41 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: gavron
Feb 28 22:56:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate cavron
Feb 28 22:56:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	]ping
Feb 28 22:56:16 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 28 22:56:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: Cavron
Feb 28 22:56:42 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!translate es
Feb 28 22:56:43 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: is
Feb 28 22:56:46 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!translate es hola
Feb 28 22:56:47 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: is Hello
Feb 28 22:56:51 2016 <AmarokNelg>	hm hang on
Feb 28 22:57:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate puto cabron
Feb 28 22:57:30 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: fucking asshole
Feb 28 22:58:01 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!translate hola es en
Feb 28 22:58:02 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: hello it is in
Feb 28 22:58:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!tradico
Feb 28 22:58:24 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: I couldn't recognize that command. Please see !commands
Feb 28 22:58:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate Hola, cabron
Feb 28 22:58:28 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: Hello, asshole
Feb 28 22:58:39 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!traducir hello
Feb 28 22:58:41 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Hola
Feb 28 22:58:43 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!traducir hey there
Feb 28 22:58:44 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Hola
Feb 28 22:58:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!traducir Lucifer
Feb 28 22:58:49 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Lucifer
Feb 28 22:58:53 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!traducir Tron
Feb 28 22:58:54 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Tron
Feb 28 22:58:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	meh
Feb 28 22:59:08 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!traducir meh
Feb 28 22:59:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: meh
Feb 28 22:59:15 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!traducir CAN YOU TRANSLATE ANYTHING
Feb 28 22:59:17 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Se puede traducir NADA
Feb 28 22:59:24 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!translate Se puede traducir NADA
Feb 28 22:59:25 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: NOTHING can be translated
Feb 28 22:59:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	uh lol
Feb 28 23:00:08 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate Chinga tu madre, cabron
Feb 28 23:00:09 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: Chinga your mother, asshole
Feb 28 23:00:56 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!pisearch 1461837
Feb 28 23:00:58 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Number 1461837 found at 10 position[s]: 28593580, 34806563, 40953971, 43564106, 56227049, 57301928, 61602231, 64648758, 75997326, 90998259.
Feb 28 23:01:11 2016 <AmarokNelg>	that's supposed to look like lucifer
Feb 28 23:01:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate estos pinches aguacates están podridos
Feb 28 23:01:32 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma:
Feb 28 23:02:34 2016 <AmarokNelg>	try without the special a?
Feb 28 23:09:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	doesn't support unicode, eh?
Feb 28 23:09:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	!translate estos pinches aguacates estan podridos
Feb 28 23:09:10 2016 <nelg-bot>	Lucifer_arma: these pinches avocados are rotten
Feb 28 23:09:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!google lucifer
Feb 28 23:10:00 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4052886/> - Lucifer (TV Series 2016– ) - IMDb
Feb 28 23:10:02 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Lucifer (TV Series 2016– ) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
Feb 28 23:10:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!google lucifer arma
Feb 28 23:10:34 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D2W987S_56AY> - Devil May Cry 4 - Lucifer (Español) HD - YouTube
Feb 28 23:10:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!google lucifer armaget
Feb 28 23:10:40 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: <http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Lucifer> - Lucifer - Megami Tensei Wiki - Wikia
Feb 28 23:10:41 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Lucifer - Megami Tensei Wiki - Wikia (at megamitensei.wikia.com)
Feb 28 23:10:41 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!google lucifer armagetron
Feb 28 23:10:42 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: <http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DPlaying_Maps> - Playing Maps - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
Feb 28 23:10:44 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Playing Maps - Armagetron Advanced Wiki (at wiki.armagetronad.org)
Feb 28 23:10:54 2016 <AmarokNelg>	I dont see how that contains lucifer at all
Feb 28 23:10:59 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!google "lucifer" armagetron
Feb 28 23:11:00 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: <http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DPlaying_Maps> - Playing Maps - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
Feb 28 23:11:02 2016 <dbdbot>	Title: Playing Maps - Armagetron Advanced Wiki (at wiki.armagetronad.org)
Feb 28 23:12:09 2016 *	AmarokNelg loves AmarokNelg
Feb 28 23:12:09 2016 *	nelg-bot loves AmarokNelg  too
Feb 28 23:12:18 2016 *	AmarokNelg killed lucifer
Feb 28 23:12:19 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: You killed Lucifer? How dare you, you wicked creature!
Feb 28 23:12:36 2016 *	AmarokNelg will sleep
Feb 28 23:12:36 2016 *	nelg-bot will not sleep 
Feb 28 23:12:53 2016 *	AmarokNelg is a noob
Feb 28 23:12:53 2016 *	nelg-bot is also a noob 
Feb 28 23:14:48 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!translate buenas-noche
Feb 28 23:14:50 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: good night
Feb 28 23:17:12 2016 <AmarokNelg>	]ping
Feb 28 23:17:12 2016 <ljrbot>	pong
Feb 28 23:19:50 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!ladle
Feb 28 23:19:51 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: The next ladle is 6 days, 13 hours, 40 minutes and 9 seconds away (March 6th at 18:00:00 UTC)
Feb 28 23:23:23 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!timer 0:0:1
Feb 28 23:23:23 2016 <Long_Shoota>	It is 0:0:1.
Feb 28 23:23:25 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Timer set for 00:00:01
Feb 28 23:23:28 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!readtimer
Feb 28 23:23:29 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Currently is 00:00:00
Feb 28 23:23:33 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!timer 0:0:70
Feb 28 23:23:33 2016 <Long_Shoota>	It is 0:0:70.
Feb 28 23:23:35 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Timer set for 00:01:10
Feb 28 23:23:36 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!readtimer
Feb 28 23:23:36 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Currently is 00:01:07
Feb 28 23:23:38 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!readtimer
Feb 28 23:23:38 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Currently is 00:01:05
Feb 28 23:24:14 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!readtimer
Feb 28 23:24:15 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Currently is 00:00:28
Feb 28 23:27:22 2016 <AmarokNelg>	!readtimer
Feb 28 23:27:23 2016 <nelg-bot>	AmarokNelg: Currently is 00:00:00
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Feb 28 23:32:58 2016 *	Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015
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