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Log from 2009-12-03:
--- Day changed Thu Dec 03 2009
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01:23 <Flex> .m ct|kyle hello
01:23 <tronner> Flex: The operation succeeded.
01:23 <Flex> #ping
01:23 <Flex> .ping
01:23 <tronner> pong
01:25 <noob13> .fortune
01:25 <tronner> noob13: 'The days are all empty and the nights are unreal.\r\n\n[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/34679\n'
01:26 <noob13> how true...
01:31 <Flex> .fortune
01:31 <tronner> Flex: "Living in the past has one thing in its favour - it's cheap.\r\n\n[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/21684\n"
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02:57 <ct|kyle> .m Flex hello
02:57 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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12:03 <boneafied> oi
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16:16 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r694 change the delay_command clear so it is before everytime is ... || [armagetronad-fortress_launch_monitor] r943 Return an error code || [armagetronad-fortress_launch_monitor] r942 Added new cockpit data source: fortress_launch_distance_to_t... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r693 handle authentication level for target command: apply same l... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r692 add delayed co
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21:07 <\u03b5> guru3, ping
21:07 <\u03b5> guru3, http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19812 [nsfw]
21:08 <madmax> .ls g5
21:08 <tronner> madmax: ~|DS|~G5 seems to be on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress right now.
21:08 <G5> madmax?
21:08 <G5> :)
21:08 <madmax> oh heh.
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23:03 <noob13> .sd fort
23:03 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (14/32): -=VcL.FlyBye, 2020, Anumeric, Carwyn, drunken_akira, FaXe, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Gin And Tonic, Kabe (Kabe@forums), killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), Lackadaisical, Orion, pavelo (pavelo@forums), Stoned2
23:19 <ct|kyle> testing
23:19 <ct|kyle> .randomteam degree°Clan ~*SpeederS*~ Twi¦×¦ted_¦×¦ats Open_Team Super_Gays Crazy_Cowboys PLEASE_RES_US! Team_Poland Team_uNknown. The_Usual_Suspects Immortal_Silence Plus Dark_Syndicate -=VcL. Crazy_tronners_Alpha Crazy_tronners_Beta
23:19 <tronner> ct|kyle: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand091203221915.txt  Immortal_Silence, ~*SpeederS*~, Crazy_Cowboys, Plus, degree°Clan, The_Usual_Suspects, Crazy_tronners_Beta, PLEASE_RES_US!, -=VcL., Crazy_tronners_Alpha, Twi¦×¦ted_¦×¦ats, Super_Gays, Team_uNknown., Open_Team, Dark_Syndicate, Team_Poland
23:19 <ct|kyle> ready Flex
23:19 <Flex> yup
23:20 <ct|kyle> do your .r
23:20 <Flex> .r
23:20 <ct|kyle> .randomteam degree°Clan ~*SpeederS*~ Twi¦×¦ted_¦×¦ats Open_Team Super_Gays Crazy_Cowboys PLEASE_RES_US! Team_Poland Team_uNknown. The_Usual_Suspects Immortal_Silence Plus Dark_Syndicate -=VcL. Crazy_tronners_Alpha Crazy_tronners_Beta
23:20 <tronner> Flex: ilckc**
23:20 <tronner> ct|kyle: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand091203222007.txt  Crazy_tronners_Alpha, ~*SpeederS*~, Dark_Syndicate, degree°Clan, The_Usual_Suspects, Open_Team, Team_uNknown., Plus, Team_Poland, Immortal_Silence, Super_Gays, PLEASE_RES_US!, Twi¦×¦ted_¦×¦ats, Crazy_Cowboys, -=VcL., Crazy_tronners_Beta
23:20 <Flex> i think z-man should do the .r and the .randomteam from now on
23:20 <Flex> or well, someone who isn't taking part in the tournament
23:21 <ct|kyle> oh btw I added him ad admin to the authentication config for this ladle
23:21 <ct|kyle> ad|as
23:21 <Flex> that's good
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23:22 <Flex> well not that we've had any issues with the randomization, so no need to make things more complicated
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23:22 <sinewav> when are ladle barckets pickd?
23:23 <Flex> just happened
23:24 <dlh> sinewav: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand091203222007.txt
23:24 <sinewav> oh cool, thanks Flex
23:25 <Flex> it's cool
23:26 <ct|kyle> sinewav: now
23:26 <ct|kyle> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Template:Ladle28Bracket
23:26 <Flex> hehe nice
23:26 <ct|kyle> that's not right
23:26 <ct|kyle> that template is not right
23:27 <dlh> Yeah, the template is jumbled
23:27 <ct|kyle> no it's not
23:27 <ct|kyle> oh I used my test one
23:28 <ct|kyle> heh
23:28 <Flex> yes..
23:28 <ct|kyle> Fixing
23:28 <sinewav> ...
23:28 <Flex> maybe from now on, just use simple chraracters too when producing the list
23:28 <sinewav> I was excited.
23:28 <Flex> sorry when using the .randomteam
23:28 <sinewav> I agree, no need for special char.
23:28 <Flex> just to prevent some mixups
23:28  * sinewav backs up Flex on that.
23:29  * Flex backs sinewav on that.
23:29 <Flex> aw forget the up
23:29 <Flex> start again..
23:30 <sinewav> wow, exactly 16 teams... cool!
23:30 <Flex> ct|kyle, got an image?
23:30 <Flex> of the bracket
23:31 <sinewav> I wonder why BS couldn't get a full team? Hmm...
23:33 <ct|kyle> no
23:33 <ct|kyle> I will though now that is it corrected
23:33 <ct|kyle> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Template:Ladle28Bracket
23:33 <sinewav> so is that the right one?
23:34 <ct|kyle> yes
23:34 <ct|kyle> the 2 CT teams on the outside :P
23:34 <ct|kyle> someone please double check it though
23:34 <dlh> It's correct
23:34 <Flex> wow that's a top heavy bracket
23:34 <ct|kyle> ok
23:35 <ct|kyle> ya a little bit
23:35 <ct|kyle> oh well that's what random gives us
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23:38 <ct|kyle> see Flex zmanuel is too late to do the .r
23:38 <Flex> unnecessary requirment anyway
23:39 <ct|kyle> need someone around to at least validate that it is for ladle
23:39 <ct|kyle> really players are the best
23:39 <Flex> a mix of different players, should make it fair
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23:39 <Flex> was only just a suggestion though
23:43 <sinewav> I guess I better go practice.
23:47 <\u03b5> is the shuffling done?
23:47 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: yes
23:47 <\u03b5> ok
23:48 <ct|kyle> I think we should vote to have team sign-ups end by today
23:48 <ct|kyle> or to have brackets set as early as today
23:54 <Spidey> O.o
23:55  * \u03b5 slaps Spidey 
23:55 <Spidey> oi
23:55 <Spidey> not so rough!
23:56 <\u03b5> night <o.

Log from 2009-12-04:
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00:05 <ct|kyle> sinewav: btw we are still trying to get a team for CT vs Plus
00:06 <sinewav> cool, thanks kyle. imma bump that thread soon.
00:07 <ct|kyle> we have 3 players signed up right now
00:08 <ct|kyle> I mean 4
00:20 <Flex> it has to be closed now.. or did you mean you want it early like this time for future ladles, ct|kyle?
00:20 <Flex> fridays seems more suitable
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03:05 <ct|kyle> wb
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03:26 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yo man, can you think of a Fort server with fort-bots in it right now?
03:27 <sinewav> how about a US one?
03:35 <ct|kyle> sinewav: incam should still be up
03:35 <ct|kyle> .si incam
03:35 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners InCam Fortress USA: Players (0/32):
03:35 <sinewav> yeah. other than that one.
03:35 <ct|kyle> nope donno
03:35 <sinewav> I guess I don't really need one, I was just wonderin'
03:36 <sinewav> I need to practice on a US server. I've realized I'm getting way too comfortable with the extra ping rubber
03:36 <sinewav> you know, everyone always plays DS fort.
03:36 <sinewav> and when I play on a US server I can't handle it because I'm used to the extra rubber.
03:37 <sinewav> oh well.
03:37 <sinewav> I better shut up before I flood this channel, heh.
03:38 <ct|kyle> sinewav: LOL
03:38 <sinewav> :)
03:38  * sinewav gets kicked for spam
03:38 <ct|kyle> what a ladle like server with 4 attackers and 4 defender bots :P
03:38 <ct|kyle> err 3 and 3
03:38 <sinewav> man that would rule.
03:39 <ct|kyle> lets see
03:39 <ct|kyle> ya that should be easy
03:40 <sinewav> I now wish I didn't delete gene from my IM list. I can get him to set up a Server Pharm one I bet. That's my main concern is that server, because of L-28
03:40 <luke-jr> ...
03:40 <sinewav> I want to be as good as I can. tough, tough matches ahead.
03:41 <sinewav> luke-jr: I didn't say I was giving him any money!
03:42 <ct|kyle> sinewav: your first one is euro
03:42 <sinewav> I know, that one will be hard, but not as hard as the rest.
03:43 <sinewav> UnK is tough when they are having a good day.
03:43 <luke-jr> sinewav: that's beside the point?
03:43 <luke-jr> sinewav: why not just configure yours?
03:44 <sinewav> luke-jr: you know, I was thinking about something like that.
03:44 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I can put one up :P
03:45 <ct|kyle> on CT USA
03:45 <sinewav> oh sure, if you feel up to it. I wouldn't object. :P
03:45 <sinewav> you got bots to do your work anyway, right?
03:46 <ct|kyle> unfortunately no :(
03:46 <ct|kyle> but I've almost got the hard part done :P
03:46 <sinewav> oh dude, then don'e bother, really.
03:46 <sinewav> oh
03:46 <sinewav> ok
03:46 <luke-jr> Linux 2.6.33 to include ramzswap ;)
03:46 <ct|kyle> it actually sounds like a nice idea for a server
03:47 <luke-jr> makes a compressed ramdisk for swap...
03:47 <sinewav> Also, I've almost definitely decided to move to kubuntu when my current box dies.
03:47 <sinewav> I was using it last week in San Diego. I liked it.
03:49 <ct|kyle> ya I now love KDE 4
04:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: now I need a few settings
04:09 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 sp_num
04:09 <tronner> ct|kyle: SP_NUM_AIS: Number of AI players in single player mode (Default: 1)
04:10 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 balance
04:10 <tronner> ct|kyle: SP_TEAM_BALANCE_ON_QUIT: Balance teams on player quit in single player mode? (Default: 0) || SP_TEAM_BALANCE_WITH_AIS: Balance teams with AI players in single player mode? (Default: 1) || SP_TEAM_MAX_IMBALANCE: Maximum allowed team imbalance in single player mode (Default: 1) || TEAM_BALANCE_ON_QUIT: Balance teams on player quit? (Default: 0) || TEAM_BALANCE_WITH_AIS: Balance teams with AI (1 more message)
04:10 <ct|kyle> .more
04:10 <tronner> ct|kyle: players? (Default: 1) || TEAM_MAX_IMBALANCE: Maximum allowed team imbalance (Default: 1)
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05:34  * hoax thinks epsy gets up too early >:|
05:35  * ct|kyle agrees
05:35 <ct|kyle> hoax has yet to goto bed?
05:36 <hoax> naow
05:39 <hoax> .seen armabot
05:39 <tronner> hoax: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 2 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <armabot> K-Yo: Lucio has last been seen on The YELLOW Submarine 3 hours 19 minutes ago.
05:39 <noob13> .seen noob7
05:39 <tronner> noob13: I have not seen noob7.
05:39 <hoax> well if that was here id say gn
05:39 <noob13> .seen noob7_away
05:39 <tronner> noob13: I have not seen noob7_away.
05:39 <noob13> gn hoax
05:39 <hoax> :]
05:41 <ct|kyle> .night
05:41 <tronner> Good night ct|kyle!
05:41 <ct|kyle> :P
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16:08 <\u03b5> is concord the only one to think I'm an attacker?
16:10 <noob13> you make the hole ;)
16:11 <\u03b5> guess so
16:12 <noob13> my team ranks higher than yours :P
16:12 <noob13> not necessarily in my opinion though
16:12 <noob13> we'll see..
16:14 <\u03b5> well, he ranked VcL #16 while they've won a match against trix(#2)
16:14 <noob13> an interesting prediction, no less
16:15 <\u03b5> it's interestingly far off
16:15 <noob13> why dont you make your own version then?
16:15 <noob13> i think pru should actually be higher up
16:15 <noob13> they've improved a lot since the days
16:16 <\u03b5> I'm tied between school, practising, and coding in armagetron and other projects
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16:17 <noob13> then you have no right to devalue other peoples effort
16:18 <\u03b5> it's not because you haven't coded anything in arma that you can't say "feature X is shit"
16:19 <noob13> fair enough, btw...
16:19 <\u03b5> it's not because I've never participated in the production of a TV news broadcast that I can't say it's totally bullshit
16:19 <noob13> feature X IS shit.
16:19 <ct|kyle> oi pikey
16:19 <pikey> hey kyle :)
16:19 <pikey> havent been here lately
16:20 <pikey> still 40 minutes of work left :P
16:20 <ct|kyle> pikey: play tron :P
16:20 <pikey> nah my boss will kill me :)
16:23 <pikey> it's my pay day today :D
16:23 <noob13> eds fortress moviepack makes me motion sick
16:24 <noob13> i think its because the grid lines are farther apart and i appear to be going slower
16:24  * pikey agrees
16:24 <noob13> that also makes me die on grinds somehow :P
16:25 <pikey> because you trust your moviepack lines too much
16:25 <ct|kyle> btw sp mode of this is fun
16:25 <ct|kyle> .ls kyle
16:25 <tronner> ct|kyle: ct¤kyle seems to be on Crazy Tronners USA Fortress right now.
16:25 <noob13> does it have fort-ai? :O
16:26 <noob13> there so needs to be a server with the fort ai..
16:26 <pikey> there is
16:26 <pikey> vbut its only incam\
16:27 <pikey> it's pretty difficult i must say
16:27 <ct|kyle> no
16:27 <pikey> no?
16:27 <ct|kyle> this one is 6 fort AI's, 5 attack 1 defends and ladle settings
16:27 <pikey> wow
16:28 <pikey> why i didnt know this?
16:28 <noob13> omg!
16:28 <ct|kyle> ya :)
16:29  * ct|kyle just got pwnt
16:29 <pikey> you dont play ladle kyle?
16:31 <ct|kyle> I'm busy this weekend
16:32 <pikey> ah too bad
16:32 <pikey> i cant wait for that team pl - ctb semifinal :)
16:32 <ct|kyle> I can't wait for CT CT fianls
16:33 <pikey> :)
16:34 <akira_arma> ...
16:34 <pikey> it'd be great if every match was recorded (hey akira!)
16:37 <pikey> im not gonna watch so many great matches
16:39 <luke-jr> so um
16:39 <luke-jr> I have $50 Google AdWords credits...
16:41 <ct|kyle> noob13: I like how if their  defence dies they automatically send an attacker to defender
16:52 <noob13> ct|kyle: that is quite cool.. perhaps they could even react to messages such as "def down" or "attack" :P
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17:45 <hoax> \u03b5 well, he ranked VcL #16 while they've won a match against trix(#2) do you mean ww?
17:49 <hoax> oh wow
17:50 <hoax> if you say something enough people actually believe it
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18:19 <\u03b5> that's what I heard
18:19 <\u03b5> now if they lied, shame on them
18:20 <akira_arma> lol
18:21 <akira_arma> hear-say ;)
18:55 <hoax> yeah & the gullible that take it as fact
18:55 <hoax> who's watching the world cup draw?
18:56 <hoax> i want a french accent
19:00 <ct|kyle> hoax: only because you're gay :P
19:00 <hoax> LOL
19:06 <hoax> I better stay away from gay remarks tbh before it becomes 'true'
19:09 <ct|kyle> hoax: so for another couple hours?
19:09 <hoax> haha we just got usa
19:09 <hoax> unlucky ct|kyle :D
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21:21 <akira_arma> .ping madmax
21:21 <tronner> pong
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23:01 <guru3> I wonder if it would be possible to cross reference armathentication with the birthdays bit of the forums to create age-limit servers...
23:03 <ct|kyle> probaboly
23:03 <guru3> Although, filtering by join date might be more effective.
23:06 <ct|kyle> ya that may be
23:07 <ct|kyle> especially since I never set my birthday
23:10 <madmax> .as
23:10 <tronner> madmax: This data is 51 seconds old; twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats fortress. (15/18), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (8/8), WILDCAT (8/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), Wild West  =High Rubber= (7/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), -=VcL.Clan New Sumo (6/12), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (6/8), Wild West  =Fortress= (5/24), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), (1 more message)
23:10 <madmax> .sd fort
23:11 <tronner> madmax: twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats fortress.: Players (15/18): .×] Hoax, 1200, Ashi, Cassidy, CTxZaP [New PC] (Gonzap@ct/senior), ct~orly?, freako (freako@forums), Kabe, Lizmatic°, Mkay-1, moth, sun[badinternet, Vanhayes, ~KirBy!<(^.^)>~, ~|DS-t|~milan (milan@ct/public)
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23:28 <guru3> asdgkf
23:30 <\u03b5> that's totally lies
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23:52 <zmanuel> .help
23:52 <tronner> zmanuel: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
23:53 <zmanuel> .r a b
23:53 <tronner> zmanuel: let(touer pn)i[s] -- isreF het .lrvoerev fI het betllu (2 more messages)
23:59 <ct|kyle> what are you looking for zmanuel
23:59 <zmanuel> I'm just trying to shuffle some players for seeding a tourney.
23:59 <ct|kyle> .randomteam a b
23:59 <tronner> ct|kyle: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
23:59 <ct|kyle> oops that won't work
23:59 <zmanuel> .randomteam bla ble?
23:59 <ct|kyle> it worked for more than 8
23:59 <tronner> zmanuel: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.

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00:00 <zmanuel> ah. Luckily, I do have more than 8.
00:00 <ct|kyle> I can change that though
00:00 <ct|kyle> I keep fortgrtting to anyway
00:00 <ct|kyle> forgetting*
00:04 <ct|kyle> .randomteam bla ble
00:04 <tronner> ct|kyle: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand091204230428.txt  ble, ~bye~, ~bye~, ~bye~, ~bye~, ~bye~, bla, ~bye~,
00:07 <zmanuel> .randomteam den247 xbigdoser Dr_Jackyll Aninael TurtleTheAwkward Belevon ToAGlassOfSherry Nyalugwe MEX LordDraco3 PyROphantasea
00:07 <tronner> zmanuel: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand091204230740.txt  Dr_Jackyll, ~bye~, Nyalugwe, xbigdoser, den247, ~bye~, Belevon, ~bye~, TurtleTheAwkward, ToAGlassOfSherry, Aninael, ~bye~, LordDraco3, MEX, PyROphantasea, ~bye~
00:08 <zmanuel> Ah, it pads to 16?
00:08 <ct|kyle> well 4 8 16 32 or 64
00:08 <zmanuel> course.
00:08 <ct|kyle> err 32 is highest
00:09 <ct|kyle> and the link gives you the wiki entries
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11:40 <iloafk> hi
11:42 <PinkTomato> iloafk, ?
11:42 <PinkTomato> hi there
11:43 <iloafk> hi
11:43 <iloafk> I'm a big fan of aad :)
11:43 <iloafk> I'd expected this channel would exist
11:44 <\u03b5> \o
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12:00 <pavelo> it's called "arma" :)
12:06 <iloafk> me my collegues at work have a funny spare time server, but it is becoming more and more time, not spare, we are not serious at all however
12:10 <PinkTomato> that makes a change
12:14 <iloafk> we built some internal tools to manage the server remotely, now other people at work want to join the server also
12:14 <iloafk> it is being fun
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13:16 <akira_arma> .ls eggcozy
13:16 <tronner> akira_arma: timed out
13:16 <akira_arma> #ls eggcozy
13:21 <madmax> .sg pharm
13:21 <tronner> madmax: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “pharm” at the moment, sorry
13:21 <madmax> .sg tsp
13:21 <tronner> madmax: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “tsp” at the moment, sorry
13:23 <madmax> .sd pharm
13:23 <tronner> madmax: Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY): Players (0/32):
13:23 <madmax> heh, .sg fails
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14:35 <iloafk> where is the place to submit an issue about authentication failing?
14:35 <iloafk> bzr? forum? sf?
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14:51 <\u03b5> iloafk, forums or lp bugs
14:52 <iloafk> I created a bug report in lp, thanks
14:52 <\u03b5> rather forum, as this sounds like a general usage question
14:53 <iloafk> mm.. looks like a bug to me
14:53 <\u03b5> you use "" to give an empty prefix/suffix in the reference implementation right?
14:53 <iloafk> ''
14:54 <\u03b5> ok
14:54 <iloafk> single quoted
14:54 <iloafk> but I tested with doubled also, same results
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16:20 <iloafk> can anyone point me about which arma version should we start to work with? is 0.3.1 trunk the same as 0.2.8.3?
16:21 <iloafk> we are used to svn and cvs, but noobs to launchpad
16:22 <iloafk> I guess they are different, but we haven't seen any oficial release for 3, only for 2.8 so there comes the confusion
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16:34 <iloafk> no mind, I'd just reviewed to see they are quite different versions
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19:20 <luke-jr> iloafk: we use Linux's old version scheme
19:20 <luke-jr> iloafk: 0.3 will always be experimental/unstable, merely snapshots of trunk
19:20 <luke-jr> iloafk: all development should be on trunk
19:20 <luke-jr> not 0.2.8 nor snapshots thereof
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20:22 <\u03b5> luke-jr, we use gimp's version scheme :)
20:27 <luke-jr> ...
20:27 <luke-jr> \u03b5: Linux's old version scheme :p
20:28 <\u03b5> mine's shorter!
20:28 <luke-jr> who cares if crap like GIMP copied it too
20:29 <iloafk> so luke-jr, should we stick to 0.2.8?
20:29 <luke-jr> iloafk: for?
20:29 <iloafk> we'll be developing a tool to admin a server
20:30 <luke-jr> [12:20:50] <luke-jr> iloafk: all development should be on trunk
20:30 <luke-jr> btw, you mean like http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=aademo
20:30 <iloafk> no luke-jr, we are not going to touch arma code.. but make an app for that
20:31 <iloafk> well, not exactly
20:31 <PinkTomato> iloafk, most servers run stableish .2.8
20:32 <iloafk> our intention is to integrate both a portal and the server tool
20:32 <iloafk> but not using a forum as a portal
20:32 <iloafk> we are working on Drupal
20:32 <luke-jr> ew
20:36 <\u03b5> luke-jr, raging over the fact GIMP uses GTK?
20:36 <\u03b5> woo Krita \o
20:37  * luke-jr notes GTK apps hang his system regularly... when he has to use them
20:38  * \u03b5 doesn't
20:38 <\u03b5> except for the flash plugin, but that's really something else
20:39 <luke-jr> unfortunately, Krita seems to be lacking many important basic features for photos :(
20:39  * \u03b5 wonders why luke-jr is on a crussade against GTK+ apps
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20:40 <luke-jr> 1. it's ugly
20:40 <luke-jr> 2. it's slow
20:40 <luke-jr> 3. it's non-standard
20:40 <luke-jr> 4. it crashes my system
20:40 <luke-jr> 5. it's REALLY ugly
20:40 <luke-jr> 6. even the API is ugly
20:40 <\u03b5> not ugly, not slow, what standard?
20:40 <luke-jr> desktops have standard widgets
20:40 <luke-jr> on Windows, GDI
20:40 <luke-jr> on OS X, Cocoa
20:41 <luke-jr> on KDE, Qt4
20:41 <\u03b5> I use windows so VNC is non-standard
20:42 <luke-jr> Windozeluser
20:42 <\u03b5> I use Windows so UNIX is non-standard
20:42 <\u03b5> :)
20:42 <iloafk> well, thanks luke-jr, PinkTomato, and no, definitely we have no kind of arma server services in mind
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20:43 <luke-jr> Windozeluser
20:44 <PinkTomato> KDE seems to Fault a lot for me
20:45 <\u03b5> idk, I only use dolphin from KDE, afair
20:51 <luke-jr> my biggest problem w/ KDE is memory leaks, and Plasma's taskbar leaving crap that isn't open anymore
20:55 <\u03b5> arr
20:55 <luke-jr> ARR
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21:37 <noob13> .ls fingerbib
21:37 <tronner> noob13: fingerbib has last been seen on .:Prutopolis:. .:Sumo:. 3 days 23 hours 39 minutes ago.
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22:14 <noob13> .sg fort
22:15 <tronner> noob13: timed out
22:33 <\u03b5> dlh, does http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/ladle/ query servers each time?
22:35 <\u03b5> dlh, also, it seems to set the var "i" globally at some point
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22:44 <dlh> \u03b5: Yes, it queries each time
22:45 <\u03b5> hrm, can you take degree off it?
22:46 <dlh> Why?
22:46 <\u03b5> a bug on trunk
22:46 <\u03b5> apparently, the queries wrtl's script sends are malformed
22:47 <\u03b5> trunk chuckles on it and dismisses it, kills the client
22:47 <\u03b5> but somehow, it sends a packet to all it's clients too
22:47 <\u03b5> and 0.3.0 interpret these packets are a tentative from the server to "cheat"
22:47 <\u03b5> so it spams their console
22:47 <dlh> hmm, really?
22:47 <\u03b5> in-game
22:47 <\u03b5> yeah
22:48 <dlh> The global i must be coming from a library I use. I just checked
22:48 <\u03b5> i can reproduce it, I was going to work on it but either got on build issues with 0.3.0 or 0.3.1 alphas or had to do other stuff
22:49 <\u03b5> dlh, not something like for( i in iterable ) ?
22:53 <dlh> There's only 3 uses as i as variable in my code, and they're all local. It's probably the tablesorter library I use
22:53 <dlh> of i as *
22:55 <\u03b5> doesn't jQuery UI have such a thing?
22:56 <dlh> The degree server has been removed from my online server browser
22:58 <\u03b5> thanks a lot
22:59 <iloafk> is there a lp version of armagetron_php_client.php?
22:59 <dlh> Yes there is
22:59 <iloafk> oh good
23:00 <iloafk> who manages it?
23:00 <dlh> iloafk: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-work
23:00 <\u03b5> iloafk, there also is a python port if you are interested
23:00 <iloafk> thank you dlh
23:00 <\u03b5> search for pygamequery
23:00 <iloafk> our work is focused on php :/
23:01 <\u03b5> as said, if you're interested :)
23:01 <dlh> The global i is coming from the tablesorter library. Javascript scoping rules are dumb.
23:01 <\u03b5> maybe if I find hosting I'll put a monster pygamequery instance somewhere
23:01 <luke-jr> ...
23:01 <\u03b5> which could be queried with php
23:01 <luke-jr> code hosting?
23:01 <luke-jr> Launchpad?
23:01 <\u03b5> no
23:01 <iloafk> thans \u03b5
23:02 <\u03b5> it's already on launchpad
23:02 <luke-jr> o
23:02 <\u03b5> I said an _instance_ :)
23:02 <luke-jr> does it work with my service layer? :P
23:02 <\u03b5> there is no monster deamon yet anyway, if that's what you're asking for
23:03 <\u03b5> but I have something like that in mind, and it wouldn't be too far away, considering how solid the base app is
23:03 <\u03b5> however still needs some little changes
23:05 <luke-jr> huh?
23:05 <luke-jr> my service layer spawns Arma directly, with its stdio specially handled
23:05 <luke-jr> how does your stuff talk to Arma? :p
23:05 <\u03b5> ah
23:06 <\u03b5> atm it just uses a python port of wrtl's lib, so it sends a bigserverinfo message to the server and waits for a response
23:07 <\u03b5> in the future the armagetron plugin will use protobuf if that's possible
23:11 <\u03b5> sinewav, if you're still interested in any way: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1796852
23:13 <luke-jr> ... so I don't get it
23:13 <\u03b5> what are you trying to do?
23:14 <luke-jr> figure out what you want
23:15 <\u03b5> a monster instance would keep collecting info from all servers and give it out on queries
23:15 <iloafk> so.. before I get some love too, ..
23:15 <iloafk> what is the process to submit patches for the tools-php-client
23:16 <\u03b5> ie. centralize it in one place to save traffic to servers
23:16 <\u03b5> umm
23:16 <\u03b5> branch and merge request
23:16 <sinewav> \u03b5: thanks man. I bookmarked it to read later. It still interests me.
23:16 <\u03b5> yw
23:17 <\u03b5> iloafk, if that wasn't clear to you, I meant branch it, publish your edited branch(on lp), then do a merge request
23:17 <iloafk> ok, we will be doing some heavy testing to that client, so probably I'll finish with several updates
23:17 <luke-jr> \u03b5: Arma VPS?
23:17 <iloafk> \u03b5, better small changes each time?
23:18 <\u03b5> you can split it up in commits in your branch
23:18 <\u03b5> then propose the merge once it's done
23:19 <iloafk> \u03b5, sorry if I bother you, it is going to be my lp's first time
23:19 <iloafk> so..
23:19 <\u03b5> luke-jr, nope, and while armagetron is one of the only three games it supports it, it's not a central aspect of it yet
23:19 <\u03b5> np, I was rendered unproductive before starting to read irc anyway :)
23:21 <iloafk> mm luke-jr, was you the last one working on the php client?
23:21 <luke-jr> yes
23:22 <iloafk> perhaps the first approach, considering I'm new to lp, woudl be to do some clean ups and put docs/comments in the php
23:23 <iloafk> may I ask for support while doing this?
23:23 <\u03b5> you should read http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/index.html if you haven't yet
23:24 <\u03b5> it explains the concept of distributed version control and is a very good guide to bzr
23:24 <\u03b5> (the tool we use for revision control)
23:24 <iloafk> tyvm \u03b5
23:24 <\u03b5> do NOT skip the intro :)
23:24 <iloafk> lol
23:26 <iloafk> well, \u03b5, a link about how do you use bzr for the project would do
23:26 <iloafk> it is pretty much a general guide
23:28 <\u03b5> _I_ use it like http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html#decentralized-with-shared-mainline
23:28 <\u03b5> luke-jr afairs uses it like http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html#centralized
23:28 <\u03b5> or at least encourages me to
23:28 <\u03b5> :)
23:29 <\u03b5> to get you a general idea
23:29 <luke-jr> lies
23:29 <\u03b5> you'd first branch the php tools branch from lanchpad
23:29 <iloafk> haha
23:29 <\u03b5> make some changes, commit, make some changes, commit
23:29 <iloafk> do I have to update between changes?
23:29 <\u03b5> when you want to publish your work you would push your work
23:30 <iloafk> I'd say no
23:30 <luke-jr> I don't use/encourage *any* of those workflows..
23:30 <\u03b5> luke-jr prefers to use butterflies
23:30 <luke-jr> I make a branch per enhancement, and merge it to mainline when it works
23:30 <luke-jr> lol
23:30 <\u03b5> and when you want us to review your patch and merge it do a merge request on launchpad
23:30 <luke-jr> http://xkcd.com/378/
23:31 <\u03b5> that's pretty much Decentralized with shared mainline
23:31 <iloafk> ok
23:31 <iloafk> thank you both :)
23:31 <luke-jr> \u03b5: except that branches are per enhancement, not per person
23:31 <luke-jr> so multiple persons might be working on a branch, and one person might work on multiple branches
23:32  * \u03b5 nods
23:32 <\u03b5> yw
23:32 <iloafk> but nobody could work on my branch untill I push it, right?
23:32 <luke-jr> iloafk: I encourage branching onto Launchpad, and making a checkout of that branch ;)
23:33 <iloafk> that makes sense for me also
23:34 <iloafk> if I could find the way to do so
23:35 <\u03b5> iloafk, yes
23:35 <iloafk> register a new bzr branch for this project?
23:35 <\u03b5> first bzr branch the /BASE/ branch
23:36 <\u03b5> that being the php tools one
23:36 <iloafk> what I already did following your orders
23:36 <\u03b5> from that point, you can do like me and work on your own branch, pushing changes whenever you want
23:36 <iloafk> mm being base: bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-work
23:37 <\u03b5> or, you can do like luke-jr and put it on launchpad first, then have your commits pushed right as you do them
23:37 <iloafk> I just confronted the 'register new branch' and cry
23:37 <iloafk> the form, I mean
23:37 <\u03b5> bzr push lp:~ilo/armagetronad/my-fancy-branch-name
23:37 <\u03b5> you don't need to fill that form
23:37 <dlh> Yeah, you don't need to register a branch from the form
23:38 <\u03b5> it works just as well if you push to the branch first
23:38 <\u03b5> so you only have details like description to fill
23:38 <luke-jr> ..
23:38 <iloafk> do I need to do some trick about being in a folder to do that or something?
23:39 <iloafk> after the bzr branch command, I mean
23:39 <luke-jr> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-work lp:~ilo/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-BRANCHNAME
23:39 <luke-jr> bzr checkout lp:~ilo/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-BRANCHNAME
23:39 <iloafk> oh thank you
23:40 <noob13> .ls pike
23:40 <tronner> noob13: ct|pike has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress 2 hours 26 minutes ago.
23:43 <iloafk> arg, I do have to submit ssh key first
23:45 <iloafk> pgp key, I meant
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23:59 <iloafk> one question, how is it easier for review once I finished all the clean up.. doing small commits or doesn't matter

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00:00 <\u03b5> because we would only have to review it one time, and not every time you make a change
00:01 <iloafk> ah ok, I thought review could also be done by commit
00:01 <iloafk> thank you, all your start up help is really much appreciated
00:02 <\u03b5> that'd be a lot of work for us
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00:31 <iloafk> oh lol
00:31 <iloafk> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "/~ilo/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-codecleanup": : ilo cannot create branches owned by ILO
00:32 <iloafk> mm
00:32 <iloafk> oh, I spotted..
00:33 <iloafk> https://code.launchpad.net/~inaki-lopez/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-codecleanup
00:50 <iloafk> luke-jr, \u03b5, in aa terminology, what do you think about in game login
00:50 <iloafk> I mean, what is login()..
00:51 <iloafk> I said this becuase I've seen doAuthInit() function exec-ing "/login " command
00:52 -!- evaldusia [n=evaldusi@lan70-973.elekta.lt] has quit []
00:53 <luke-jr> ...
00:57 <iloafk> sorry, It just confused me, because dologin() is used to connect the client to the server, not to perform a login operation
00:58 <madmax> don't mind luke-jr, he's on an endless quest to find pacman
00:58 <iloafk> hehe
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01:44 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@cpc3-oxfd18-2-0-cust250.know.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
01:48 <iloafk> well, thank you all
01:48 <iloafk> enough for today
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01:55 <Vanhayes> madmax,  did that server just crash?
01:55 <Vanhayes> ah nvrm it is showing up now
01:59 <noob13> .sd fortress
01:59 <tronner> noob13: .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: Players (20/32): -=VcL.Biggy, -=}ID< killer, 1200, 123456789012345, alf, amphetamine° (dubStep@forums), Flex, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Lackadaisical, Lethergic, madmax, mAus°, Radian, Vanhayes, Wildcat, z3r0, Zooropa, ~*FoFoLiNo*~, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums), ~*SP*~Magic
02:00 <\u03b5> kinda makes me puke ppl play 10v10
02:02 <Vanhayes> it makes everything at the start delayed
02:02 <Vanhayes> and I keep getting disconected
02:03 <Vanhayes> seriously every time
02:05 <Vanhayes> .si ted
02:05 <tronner> Vanhayes: .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: Players (17/32): -=}ID< killer, 1200, 123456789012345, alf, Flex, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Lackadaisical, Lethergic, madmax, mAus°, Radian, Revolutionary (dubStep@forums), z3r0, Zooropa, ~*FoFoLiNo*~, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums), ~*SP*~Magic
02:05 <Vanhayes> hmm
02:07 <\u03b5> well, night
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02:15 <Vanhayes> well that server doesnt even want to show up on the list anymore
02:16 <madmax> it's still there
02:16 <madmax> (alive)
02:17 <ct|kyle> .si -v ted
02:17 <tronner> ct|kyle: .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×. (68.168.213.18:4534) (68.168.213.18) running 0.2.8_alpha20090610 unix dedicated, url: http://xats.ath.cx, Description: “Fortress, compliments of the Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats clan, hosted by Durka“, Players (16/32): -=}ID< killer, 1200, 123456789012345, alf, biertje° (dubStep@forums), Flex, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Lackadaisical, madmax, (1 more message)
02:18 <Vanhayes> ya it is a whore to me
02:19 <Vanhayes> keeps disconnecting me and saying maybe its my ethernet cable
02:26 <madmax> when I die attacking center, I still reach the enemy zone
02:26 <madmax> now that's magic
02:45 <noob13> no, its skill.
02:52 <noob13> anyone know good "bird view" cam settings?
02:52 <noob13> is that even possible?
02:57 <Vanhayes> it should be, you want to do old school top down view?
02:58 <madmax> magic as in lag :-/
02:59 <noob13> Vanhayes: yeah! just played around with camera_custom_rise and *_pitch
02:59 <noob13> seems cool..
02:59 <Vanhayes> i know when i die in incam it sometimes zooms to overhead
03:25 <ct|kyle> .sg fort
03:25 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (7/14): , .n3rD#_x, Arthur Dent, Flamin Borritto, GO CELTICS, hever, roop1, sevencube3, .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: (6/32): , 123456789012345, Bellum, Discosuperstar, fingerbib, Hyp3, Mkay-1
03:26 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: yes it goes to your default camera for spectating
03:27 <dlh> It used to switch to smartcam. It now switches to your default camera.
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03:55 <nowimproved> how do I clear input configuration?
03:56 <nowimproved> how do I unbind all the keys on turn left?
04:00 <nowimproved> anyone?
04:01 <dlh> press delete
04:01 <nowimproved> backspace
04:01 <nowimproved> thanks
04:01 <nowimproved> figured it out
04:01 <nowimproved> took a while
04:01 <nowimproved> but I pressed every key on my board
04:01 <dlh> That should be in the help message :\
04:01 <nowimproved> dont think it is
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04:28 <compguygene> hi, i have a question about a problem that i appear to be having with custom connecting to a server that i am running that shows on the master list
04:29 <noob13> hi compguygene
04:29 <compguygene> hi
04:29 <compguygene> how have you been?
04:30 <noob13> great, as always. yourself?
04:30 <compguygene> ok
04:30 <compguygene> i just seem to be having difficulty forming a custom connect to my NY ladle server
04:30 <compguygene> i can connect via the master list
04:31 <compguygene> and have verified the port IP address and dns
04:31 <compguygene> when i attempt to custom connect, the client times out after the 10 second default
04:31 <compguygene> however
04:31 <compguygene> the server seems to see the client
04:32 <compguygene> the following was what appeared on the server console as i tried to connect
04:33 <compguygene> 1 TS=2009/12/05-22:16:12] Received login from 98.16.102.61:61919 via socket *.*.*.*:4551, network version: 0.2.8.3_beta2 (ID: 16).
04:33 <compguygene> [1 TS=2009/12/05-22:16:12] New user: 1
04:33 <compguygene> [0 TS=2009/12/05-22:16:15] Waiting for real players...
04:33 <compguygene> [0 TS=2009/12/05-22:16:15] Waiting for real players (only spectators online)...
04:33 <compguygene> [2 TS=2009/12/05-22:16:17] Received login from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx via socket *.*.*.*:4551, network version: 0.2.8.3_beta2 (ID: 16).
04:33 <compguygene> [2 TS=2009/12/05-22:16:17] New user: 2
04:33 <compguygene> the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx being my IP address that i was connecting from
04:33 <compguygene> any ideas?
04:34 <noob13> and via server browser it worked?
04:34 <compguygene> yes
04:34 <compguygene> that's what is confusing me
04:34 <compguygene> I also did verify that ports are open, and i can see the arma server running on the proper ports
04:35 <noob13> perhaps the port you've configured is already taken, causing the server to jump to the next one.
04:35 <compguygene> and i can  connect via the server browser and play
04:35 <noob13> ah, hm...
04:35 <compguygene> i checked that as well
04:35 <compguygene> i even allowed the server to self select another open port
04:35 <compguygene> same thing happened
04:36 <dlh> Is it the ladle server, compguygene?
04:36 <noob13> whats the ip:port to you server, i'll give it a try
04:38 <dlh> Oh, nvm. read up
04:38 <dlh> compguygene: ny.theserverpharm.net resolves to 66.45.244.50. The address from the master server is 66.45.244.54.
04:39 <noob13> that might explain it :P
04:39 <compguygene> ahhh
04:39 <compguygene> that might
04:40 <ct|kyle> I was going to ask that
04:40 <compguygene> i saw that on the server browser
04:40 <compguygene> and yes it is the ladle server [NY}
04:40  * ct|kyle needs to make sure the CT servers are up to date and working
04:40 <compguygene> do i need to specify the SERVER_DNS?
04:40 <luke-jr> my little boy cries like a girl -.-
04:41  * compguygene waves hi to luke!
04:41 <dlh> .cfg SERVER_DNS
04:41  * luke-jr poisons compguygene's tea.
04:41 <tronner> dlh: SERVER_DNS: If your server is on dynamic IP and you set up a dynamic DNS that always points to it, you can set this variable to the DNS name to help clients remember your server across IP changes. (default: )
04:41 <luke-jr> j/k <.<
04:41 <dlh> Is it a dynamic IP, compguygene?
04:41 <ct|kyle> compguygene: we were going to put one of your servers for the secondary in finals, but I did not know which one would be better
04:41 <compguygene> no
04:41 <compguygene> the ny2 one would be best
04:42 <dlh> No need to use SERVER_DNS then
04:42 <ct|kyle> too late now, but let us know for next time
04:42 <compguygene> it is a static IP, running on a true dedicated server, in a data center
04:42 <compguygene> well
04:42 <compguygene> the ny1 server is good, other than the current custom connect problem
04:43 <compguygene> i thought i did not need to specify a SERVER_DNS
04:43 <dlh> You just need to update your DNS records to point to the correct place. Nothing needs configuration in arma
04:43 <compguygene> well
04:44 <compguygene> i just did, so perhaps the change needs to propagate first
04:44 <compguygene> but
04:44 <compguygene> my concern is this
04:44 <ct|kyle> dlh: so for liv.crazy-tronners.com I can just set SERVER_IP for the server and everything will work fine?
04:45 <compguygene> if i try to custom connect to the ip address, it does come up with the problem
04:45 <dlh> .cfg SERVER_IP
04:45 <tronner> dlh: SERVER_IP: IP the server listens on (default: ANY)
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04:49 <ct|kyle> .si -v ct's 1
04:49 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 28 (CT\'s 1) (78.46.226.237:4541) (static.237.226.46.78.clients.your-server.de) running 0.2.8_alpha20090403 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Ladle server powered by Crazy tronner\'s“, Players (0/24):
04:51 <compguygene> .si -v TSP NY
04:51 <ct|kyle> .si -v ct's 1
04:51 <tronner> compguygene: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “tsp ny” at the moment, sorry
04:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 28 (CT\'s 1) (78.46.226.237:4542) (static.237.226.46.78.clients.your-server.de) running 0.2.8_alpha20090403 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Ladle server powered by Crazy tronner\'s“, Players (1/24): ct¤kyle
04:51 <ct|kyle> not sure where that is running :P
04:52 <compguygene> .si -v TheServerPharmNY
04:52 <tronner> compguygene: FPL>>TheServerPharmNY (66.45.244.54:4557) (66.45.244.54) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090725 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (0/32):
04:52 <compguygene> .si -v ladle 28 (TheServerPharmNY)
04:52 <tronner> compguygene: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “ladle 28 (theserverpharmny)” at the moment, sorry
04:53 <ct|kyle> now I should only have 1 server 1
04:56 <ct|kyle> do you know if there is a way to force all players on 1 team and make and AI only team?
04:56 <compguygene> .si v Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY)
04:56 <tronner> compguygene: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “v ladle 28 (the server pharm ny)” at the moment, sorry
04:59 <ct|kyle> .si -v (The Server Pharm NY
04:59 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY) (66.45.244.54:4551) (66.45.244.54) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090725 unix dedicated, Description: “This server setup for Ladles.“, Players (1/32): Ww_compguygene
04:59 <ct|kyle> sorry compguygene it just must not like you :P
04:59 <compguygene> hehe
04:59 <compguygene> methinks it didn't like my closing paren
05:01 <compguygene> ok
05:01 <ct|kyle> .si v Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY)
05:01 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “v ladle 28 (the server pharm ny)” at the moment, sorry
05:01 <compguygene> the custom connect works to 66.45.244.54
05:01 <compguygene> lol
05:01 <ct|kyle> no you used v instead of -v
05:01 <compguygene> guess i will change the dns entry to reflect that
05:01 <compguygene> lol
05:01 <ct|kyle> .si -v Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY)
05:01 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY) (66.45.244.54:4551) (66.45.244.54) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090725 unix dedicated, Description: “This server setup for Ladles.“, Players (1/32):
05:01 <compguygene> its always the simple stuff
05:02 <ct|kyle> .sg ladle
05:02 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY): (1/32): ,
05:02 <ct|kyle> it only shows the ones with people, but all the ones with people
05:02 <compguygene> nice
05:03 <compguygene> well, the dns will prolly take 24 hours to propagate
05:03 <compguygene> so,
05:04 <compguygene> i will change the wiki to reflect the actual ip address
05:04 <compguygene> lol, the one that actually works
05:04 <compguygene> btw
05:04 <compguygene> upon further research, the ip that it is actually using is the servers secondary ip
05:04 <ct|kyle> heh
05:04 <compguygene> uggg
05:07 <compguygene> ok
05:08 <compguygene> the wiki is updated with the actual, working ip address
05:11 <compguygene> ty kyle
05:12 <ct|kyle> good luck at ladle
05:12 <compguygene> thanks
05:12 <ct|kyle> I'm going to be gone for this one again :(
05:12 <compguygene> i understand:(
05:12 <compguygene> I hope to coach my Crazy Cowboys via teamspeak to a win against TX
05:13 <compguygene> Contrary to the "popular wisdom" i think we can win
05:13 <ct|kyle> maybe by the next one iI'll be able to play on weekends again
05:13 <compguygene> y can't you play on weekends?
05:13 <ct|kyle> I hope to see CT vs CT in finals
05:13 <ct|kyle> actually most days right now
05:13 <compguygene> is it work?
05:13 <ct|kyle> busy getting a house fixed up
05:14 <compguygene> ahh
05:14 <compguygene> i have that happen a lot too
05:14 <compguygene> btw
05:14 <compguygene> i feel really silly to ask this
05:14 <compguygene> but, i lost the script you gave me!
05:14 <compguygene> and when u here how, you will laugh
05:14 <ct|kyle> the one I made for sinewav
05:14 <compguygene> yeah
05:15 <compguygene> we have kittens that we are finding a home for
05:15 <ct|kyle> I just sent it to Pathetique
05:15 <compguygene> and one of them walked on my keyboard of my netbook
05:15 <compguygene> that i use
05:15 <compguygene> and deleted it!
05:15 <compguygene> grrr
05:15 <ct|kyle> sure :P
05:15 <compguygene> i am totally not kidding
05:16 <compguygene> i lost a few things that i had just stored on a server!
05:16 <compguygene> and i did not have a backup of the script!
05:16 <ct|kyle> http://pastebin.com/m48ff42af
05:16 <compguygene> grrrrr
05:16 <compguygene> ty
05:16  * compguygene knows this sounds way too much like "my cat ate my homework"
05:17 <ct|kyle> yes it does
05:17  * ct|kyle now knows the new school homework excuse
05:17 <ct|kyle> My cat waked on my keyboard and press delete on that file
05:18 <compguygene> i had it highlighted to backup
05:18 <ct|kyle> better not tell your kids that one
05:18 <compguygene> walked away
05:18 <compguygene> and saw the darn thing deleting files!
05:18 <compguygene> lol
05:18 <ct|kyle> heh
05:18 <compguygene> it is lucky that it survived
05:19 <ct|kyle> better double bind more often :P
05:19 <compguygene> lol
05:19 <compguygene> thanks again for the script
05:19 <compguygene> what sux, is i lost my changes....but thats ok...i can start over
05:19 <ct|kyle> no problem, like I said it was an easy script
05:20 <ct|kyle> you'll learn python quicker that way :P
05:20 <compguygene> well
05:20 <compguygene> well,
05:20 <compguygene> i gtg
05:20 <ct|kyle> see you
05:20 <compguygene> later
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14:17 <\u03b5> dlh, oh,, same applies to gene's server
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15:23 <pikey> ?
15:24 <ct|kyle> irc server was lost
15:32 <\u03b5> armagetronad://crazy-tronners.com:4538
15:32 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://crazy-tronners.com:4538>:Ladle 28 (CT's 2) (5/26)
15:33 <\u03b5> need to restart this instance lol
15:33 <pikey> hmm kyle what was the server with good fort bots?
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15:33 <\u03b5> armagetronad://crazy-tronners.com:4538
15:33 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://crazy-tronners.com:4538>: Ladle 28 (CT's 2) (5/26)
15:33 <pikey> and the name?
15:34 <pikey> ah
15:34 <\u03b5> and I'm not replying to you pikey, just testing if the bot still works
15:34 <\u03b5> :)
15:34 <pikey> :)
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15:53 <ct|kyle> armagetronad://usa.crazy-tronners.com:4542
15:53 <ct|kyle> .si -v usa fort
15:53 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners USA Fortress (usa.crazy-tronners.com:4542) () running 0.3_alpha20091204 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Ladle like fortress server with single player mode“, Players (3/32): ct|pike (pike@ct/junior), newbÎe, slash
15:54 <ct|kyle> looks like pikey found it :P
15:55 <pikey> i just need to lock the teams :|
15:55 <\u03b5>  /callvote referee pikey ?
15:56 <pikey> too few possible voters online
15:57 <pikey> and i need moderator there :P
15:57 <\u03b5> :/
15:58 <ct|kyle> pikey: I gtg now message me that and I'll remember to add you to the list
15:59 <pikey> ok
15:59 <ct|kyle> pikey: ya I only put it us qucik did not check settings
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16:29 <Concord> ct|kyle: do you have any info about ct-plus fpl match today?
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17:12 <Pathetique> P4: ping
17:12 <Pathetique> P4 You guys have about 30 Ladle (CT 1) servers up
17:14 <madmax> did 2020 finally gather an army of players?
17:15 <dlh> heh
17:17 <Concord> I had the weirdest dream
17:18 <Concord> there was a professional 4 team sty ball league in southwest canada, but they were all really bad
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17:23 <Pathetique> LOL
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17:55 <Jip> hi
17:56 <pikey> hey
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18:06 <pikey> hey
18:06 <Pr3> hey pike
18:06 <Pr3> thanks for meeting me
18:06 <noob13> hey Pr3!
18:07 <Pr3> hey noob
18:07 <Pr3> pike i've been using fraps to record tron - but I have yet to get the quality of your recordings - what program to do you use?
18:10 <pikey> let's talk in private message :)
18:12 <pikey> can u see pm window?
18:22 <\u03b5> is it such a secret ?
18:22 <pikey> yes
18:22 <pikey> we can't let epsy hear it :)
18:23 <\u03b5> may I ask why?
18:23 <pikey> it's a secret :)
18:24 <P4> thanks for a notice Pathetique, i'm in brussels now, untill 18th, please complain to ct¦kyle / solete
18:25 <\u03b5> pikey, that's stupid
18:26 <pikey> that's stupid secret :)
18:26 <\u03b5> freakoism
18:26 <pikey> so we should put our spam here?
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18:59 <Jip> tröööööööööt
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19:04 <Pr3> hey sine! Plus ready? :)
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19:13 <sinewav> Plus is somewhat ready...
19:14 <sinewav> we have some issues with one player and his connection though.
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19:29 <Pr3> There are 2 CT1s
19:29 <pavelo> lal
19:30 <Pr3> the one that worked crashed*
19:30 <Pr3> I guess we'll use CT 2?
19:35 <akira_arma> cant login in serverpharm NY
19:36 <akira_arma> gives server adress mismatch.. pharming suspected
19:37 <dlh> z-man-work: ping. can you come to serverpharm ny?
19:37 <dlh> z-man-work: nvm
19:39 <pikey> epsy we need some team captains on degree's
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20:25  * pikey slaps epsy
20:25 <solete> still tx vs ww?
20:25 <pikey> we really need to lock the teams
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20:34 <Flex> k-yo here?
20:38 <madmax> .ls sine
20:38 <tronner> madmax: sinewav+ has last been seen on Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY) 2 minutes ago.
20:38 <madmax> .ls 2020
20:38 <tronner> madmax: 2020+ seems to be on Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY) right now.
20:39 <madmax> .sd -v pharm ny
20:39 <tronner> madmax: Ladle 28 (The Server Pharm NY) (66.45.244.54:4551) (66.45.244.54) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090725 unix dedicated, Description: “This server setup for Ladles.“, Players (9/32): + teEn (teen@forums), +W33D, 1200+, 2020+, ?? eggcozy (eggcozy@forums), ?? free kill, ?? lckdscl, ?? pavelo (pavelo@forums), Concord+
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20:48 <dlh> what a huge clusterfuck
20:49 <dlh> 20 minutes late so far
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21:32 <sinewav> WD Usual Suspects! Please don't take my taunting as mean, I love you guys. :)
21:33 <madmax> pussy def!
21:33 <madmax> :-D
21:37 <sinewav> LOL!
21:41 <luke-jr> http://code.google.com/p/pink-pony/
21:41 <luke-jr> screw Armagetron, let's play Pink Pony!
21:41 <luke-jr> XD
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21:47 <sinewav> Does the pinkPony have online play? We should have a competition... I would totally do that.
21:50 <luke-jr> lol
21:51 <luke-jr> it uses protobuf o.o
21:51 <luke-jr> wonder if it's 0.3 compat
21:51 <luke-jr> and FTGL
21:56 <\u03b5> luke-jr, you're like, 6 months late
21:56 <luke-jr> \u03b5: :p
21:56 <\u03b5> :))
21:56 <\u03b5> damn hell i cant connect to the TX serv
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22:16 <Durka> z-man: open your server
22:16 <Durka> z-man-work: u too
22:16 <z-man> Match is still going on, patience.
22:16 <z-man> Don't need no TX crowd heckling in there.
22:17 <Durka> er
22:17 <Durka> fine
22:17 <Durka> but can i get a score update at least
22:17 <z-man> It's done :)
22:17 <z-man> US won.
22:18 <Durka> k
22:18 <Durka> now let us in?
22:18 <Durka> :D
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23:27 <sine_wav> yo, who won L-28?
23:27 <pavelo> tx
23:28 <pavelo> or whatever they're called
23:28 <sine_wav> no way, what was the last score?
23:28 <sine_wav> I can't believe it.
23:28 <Lackadaisical> 2-1
23:28 <pavelo> very close
23:28 <Lackadaisical> we go owned the first match
23:28 <sine_wav> I saw the first 2 matches
23:28 <Lackadaisical> second and third match were close
23:28 <sine_wav> amazing.
23:29 <sine_wav> I am surprised, even thought I shouldn't be.
23:29 <sine_wav> you're all very good
23:30 <sine_wav> well I hope everyone had fun. I did. I think this was one of the best Ladles, except for gene's server crashing.
23:31 <sine_wav> and CT1 going down 20 seconds into Plus
23:31 <sine_wav> first match there
23:31 <sine_wav> oh well.
23:31 <sine_wav> night all.
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23:41 <dlh> what was the score for Crazy Tronners Alpha vs. ~*SpeederS*~, and ~*SpeederS*~ vs. Dark Syndicate?
23:41 <akira_arma> 2:0
23:41 <dlh> both?
23:41 <akira_arma> yea
23:42 <akira_arma> only 2* 2:1 results
23:42 <akira_arma> degree / Ds
23:42 <akira_arma> and we
23:46 <akira_arma> CT got quite dismantled
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23:50 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 game_mode
23:50 <tronner> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
23:50 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 game_t
23:50 <tronner> ct|kyle: GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (Default: 10) || GAME_TYPE: Type of game played. 0 for freestyle, 1 for last team standing and 2 for humans vs. AIs. (Default: 1) || LADDERLOG_GAME_TIME_INTERVAL: If nonnegative, write a line with the current game time to the ladder log every n seconds. (Default: -1) || (1 more message)
23:50 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 sp_GAME_TYPE
23:50 <tronner> ct|kyle: SP_GAME_TYPE: Type of game played in single player mode. 0 for freestyle, 1 for last team standing and 2 for humans vs. AIs. (Default: 1)

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13:31 <Gh0stly> hello
13:32 <Gh0stly> irc from my hero :D
13:33 <Gh0stly> now if we could just get arma to work on my phone...
13:35 <Gh0stly> well bb
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13:49 <Gh0stly> oi
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16:38 <ct|kyle> oi
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17:02 <hoax> #tea
17:02 <armabot> hoax: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
17:03 <wrtlprnft> eh?
17:03 <\u03b5> armagetron.at:4534
17:03 <\u03b5> armagetron.at:4539
17:03  * \u03b5 makes a no sign
17:04 <\u03b5> degree.asdf.ch is down too :<
17:04 <\u03b5> armagetronad://armagetron.at:4534
17:04 <wrtlprnft> #tea
17:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
17:05 <\u03b5> did pyga..
17:05 <\u03b5> right
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17:05 <\u03b5> armagetron.at:4534
17:05 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://armagetron.at:4534>: Fortress Test Server (1/16)
17:05 <\u03b5> mh :]
17:06 <wrtlprnft> foo:12345
17:06  * \u03b5 goes inspect why pygamequery didn't reconnect
17:06 <\u03b5> wrtlprnft, what game would that be? :)
17:06 <wrtlprnft> well, foo might be a hostname, how should it know?
17:07 <wrtlprnft> foo.org:4535
17:07 <\u03b5> but no game it knows about uses port 12345 :)
17:07 <\u03b5> :)
17:07 <\u03b5> it ignores servers that don't exist
17:07 <wrtlprnft> well, i figured since this is #armagetron it might assume armagetronad://
17:08  * \u03b5 notes down
17:08 <wrtlprnft> google.com:80
17:08 <\u03b5> but the parser just compares anything with it's games
17:10 <\u03b5> so it shouldn't assume armagetronad:// on any word
17:10 <wrtlprnft> armagetron.at:4534
17:10 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://armagetron.at:4534>: Fortress Test Server (0/16)
17:10 <wrtlprnft> help://
17:10 <\u03b5> heh
17:10 <wrtlprnft> so it probably doesn't query in real time
17:11 <\u03b5> it does
17:11 <\u03b5> except in some special cases
17:11 <\u03b5> (flood protection)
17:11 <\u03b5> I haven't published the irc bot script yet, but the rest is up on launchpad
17:11 <wrtlprnft> armagetron.at:4534
17:11 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://armagetron.at:4534>: Fortress Test Server (0/16)
17:12 <\u03b5> it allows a ping every 30 seconds
17:12 <\u03b5> and allows the same info to be spit on the same channel only once in 30 seconds
17:13 <\u03b5> if you query it on another channel about the same server it will give the cached info
17:13 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad://wrtlprnft.ath.cx:4533
17:13 <wrtlprnft> heh, it actually sent a packet :-)
17:13 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad://master1.armagetronad.net:4533
17:14 <\u03b5> haha
17:14 <\u03b5> pygamequery handles master lists, but the script obviousely doesn't do such requests
17:14 <\u03b5> [the irc bot one]
17:15 <wrtlprnft> well, it still uses the armagetronad protocol, so something funny might have theorethically happened
17:15 <\u03b5> yup, it probably sent a packed to master1
17:15 <wrtlprnft> although the master probably just denies regular login attempts
17:15 <\u03b5> <class 'pygamequery.errors.ServerTimeoutError'>: Error connecting to armagetronad://master1.armagetronad.net:4533: Timed out
17:16 <\u03b5> s/denies/ignores/
17:16 <wrtlprnft> meh
17:16 <wrtlprnft> everyone denies udp packets they don't care about
17:16 <wrtlprnft> so the master isn't even special17:16 <\u03b5> that's kinda how udp was designed :)
17:17 <wrtlprnft> s/denies/ignores
17:22 <ct|kyle>  armagetronad://
17:22 <ct|kyle> armagetronad://usa.crazy-tronners.com:4534
17:22 <\u03b5> the primary part of an url is the hostname, so protocol alone won't work
17:22 <ct|kyle> armagetronad:///usa.crazy-tronners.com:4534
17:23 <\u03b5> are these running trunk?
17:23 <ct|kyle> I think it is down
17:23 <ct|kyle> my VPS provider seams to be offline
17:23 <ct|kyle> just as I was restarting my VPS
17:25 <ct|kyle> armagetronad:///crazy-tronners.com:4534
17:25 <ct|kyle> armagetronad://crazy-tronners.com:4534
17:25 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://crazy-tronners.com:4534>: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (2/14)
17:25 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: can't it show who is actually there?
17:26 <\u03b5> the base program still needs to abstract such things as "player" list and so does the output formatter
17:28 <\u03b5> so it could probably show a repr() of the playerlist
17:28 <\u03b5> which isn't really proper
17:29 <\u03b5>  $ gamequery ping -f "{player_count}: {players}" crazy-tronners.com:4534 2>/dev/null
17:29 <\u03b5> 0: ['']
17:30 <\u03b5> $ gamequery ping -f "{player_count}: {players}" ctos 2>/dev/null
17:30 <\u03b5> 11: ['75', 'SpinAce', 'Tavren.nub', '.pRu|Garial', 'Eulo', 'Rayo', 'Radian +', 'CT_B3eR', 'akira', 'ace', 'ct|Puuquie']
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18:54 <Gh0stly> oi
18:57 <luke-jr> SAID: MENTAL PENS
19:03 <Gh0stly> lol
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19:58 <\u03b5> PinkTomato, do you play WoW ?
19:58 <PinkTomato> \u03b5, I used to for like 2 months
19:59 <\u03b5> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223064889 reply 10.
20:00 <PinkTomato> haha, that isn't me :)
20:01 <\u03b5> :P
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21:44 <ct|kyle> armagetronad://usa.crazy-tronners.com:4534
21:44 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://usa.crazy-tronners.com:4534>: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA (0/14)
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22:13 <noob13> armagetronad://mastercontrolprogram.de:4539
22:14 <noob13> armagetronad://mastercontrolprogram.de:4540
22:14 <pygamequery> Info for <armagetronad://mastercontrolprogram.de:4540>: Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU] (0/32)
22:15 <\u03b5> the colors look funny on irc :)
22:16 <pavelo> as opposed to... in arma, where they are cool ?
22:16 <\u03b5> try it in PM
22:17 <\u03b5> or on a chan which allows colors
22:17 <noob13> neat, how do you convert the color codes?
22:19 <\u03b5> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~epsy/pygamequery/trunk/annotate/head%3A/pygamequery/bind.py#L139
22:19 <\u03b5> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eepsy/pygamequery/trunk/annotate/head%3A/pygamequery/modules/armagetronad/__init__.py#L153
22:21 <\u03b5> the armagetron part translates color codes to formatting info
22:22 <\u03b5> (color tuples, bold toggle, etc)
22:22 <\u03b5> then it is translated to irc color codes
22:23 <noob13> nice, will have a look at that some day..
22:24 <\u03b5> in the irc bot script, it looks like
22:24 <\u03b5>             fmt = Format( result, "Info for <{full_address}>: "+format )
22:24 <\u03b5>             fmt.bind.colors = None
22:24 <\u03b5> then         self.msg(place, str(fmt))
22:24 <\u03b5> (which does send the message to irc)
22:24 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: colors don't seam too far off considering it's IRC
22:25 <\u03b5> yeah, I was surprised in a nice way :)
22:26 <ct|kyle> now if it could pick up trunk servers too
22:27 <\u03b5> I keep getting distracted off that
22:27 <\u03b5> :<
22:27 <\u03b5> .sd -v referee
22:28 <tronner> \u03b5: Bugfarm - Referee Votes - Ger (armagetron.at:4538) () running 0.3_alpha_z1340_20090731 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: ““, Players (0/32):
22:28  * \u03b5 gg's :w
22:30 <\u03b5> armagetron.at:4538
22:30 <\u03b5> #sd -v referee
22:30 <armabot> \u03b5: Bugfarm - Referee Votes - Ger (armagetron.at:4538) running 0.3_alpha_z1340_20090731 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: ““, Players (0/32):
22:30 <\u03b5> I wonder
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05:02 <sinewav> ct|kyle: I said "ew" because the "Rev" kid entered. But yeah, old school server ftw.
05:03 <ct|kyle> sinewav: oh :P
05:03 <ct|kyle> sinewav: and you just like CTWF because of good ping :P
05:05 <sinewav> you know, that helps. That was one of the frustrating things about CTWF UK for me - lag.
05:05 <sinewav> back when I was a n00b, that is...
05:07 <sinewav> Also, I never cared for the rotating physics. Maps yes, not physics. Just something doesn't sit right with me. I'm the same way about mixing music genres on an album. I hate it for the most part.
05:08 <sinewav> time for comic books.
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17:15 <ct|kyle> Pathetique:
17:15 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 max_kill
17:15 <tronner> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
17:15 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 kill_min
17:15 <tronner> ct|kyle: FORTRESS_CONQUERED_KILL_MIN: UNDOCUMENTED (Default: 0)
17:28 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 decay
17:28 <tronner> ct|kyle: BALL_SPEED_DECAY: ball_speed_decay_help (Default: 0) || CHATBOT_DECAY: rate at which the quality of the chatbot decays over time (Default: 0.02) || CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE: Rate of cycle speed approaching the value of CYCLE_SPEED from above (Default: 0.1) || CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE differs from its default? (Default: 3) || (2 more messages)
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19:24 <noob13> .sd fortress
19:24 <tronner> noob13: Table \'./ct_forum/players\' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed
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19:31 <madmax> P4: ^
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01:30 <noob13> #armaservers
01:30 <armabot> noob13: This data is 23 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA (8/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (6/10), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (5/16), `|pNd+ Loose DF (5/10), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- (1 more message)
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06:42 <noob13> good morning \u03b5!
06:42 <\u03b5> morning
06:48 <sinewav> oh wow, morning already? I need to go to bed.
06:51 <\u03b5> sun isn't up
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07:15 <luke-jr> lol
07:18 <\u03b5> bb
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17:47 <Vanhayes> .si
17:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry
17:47 <Vanhayes> .as
17:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 138863 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), `|pNd+Loose (8/8), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), ID -=}< OPEN SuMo (6/12), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (4/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (1 more message)
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18:57 <P4> yeh, that's kyle's case again :þ
18:58 <P4> i'd digged it if i were at home… but i'm far far away and actually i have no time for tron issues untill 18th (hopefuly)
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19:00 <P4> but thanks for report, max/13/cruz
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19:46 <Pathetique> Anyone know if SET_ZONE_RADIUS can work with relative values, like +5 or -5?
19:48 <Pathetique> Apparently not
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21:54 <dubStep> ct|kyle: hi
21:55 <ct|kyle> oi dubStep
22:01 <spidey> colt45 and 2 zig zags, baby that's all we need, we can goto the club after dark and smoke that tumble weed, as the marijuana burns we can our turns singin them dirty rap songs! stop and hit the bong like cheech and chong
22:02 <spidey> Vanhayes, whats up bitch
22:02 <spidey> ;D
22:02 <P4> http://p4.rootnode.net/mp3/classical/ ← for Your pleasure :)
22:03 <spidey> ew
22:03 <spidey> li get enough classics at work
22:03 <spidey> all my boss listens to on the radio -.-
22:03 <P4> but this is special :)
22:05 <spidey> doesn't work so well on dial-a-ho
22:06 -!- Liz [n=chatzill@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:09 <P4> Liz, do you live close to BRU?
22:11 <P4> emphasis: you're also .nl :)
22:11 <Liz> BRU?
22:11 <Liz> brussel?:S
22:11 <P4> yeh, i'm here up to next friday
22:11 <P4> i'm gonna visit AMS or RTD again this friday
22:12 <Liz> i live in north amsterdam
22:12 <P4> but if you suggest any other city :)
22:12 <P4> oh noes
22:12 <Liz> rotterdam is a shithole
22:12 <P4> i was in AMS last… few weeks ago
22:12 <P4> i've heard rotertdam is more industrial :>
22:12 <Liz> went to some coffeeshops? :p
22:12 <P4> industrial speedcore for the win :>
22:12 <Liz> rotterdam most filthy and most crime
22:13 <P4> Liz, meet you next friday somewhere in the AMS? :)
22:13 <Liz> haha
22:14 <P4> rly, or maybe better suttarday since last train goes back at 21
22:14 <Liz> have work from 8-5 though :<
22:14 <P4> so do i
22:14 <Liz> what are you doing so much in holland?
22:14 <P4> i mean 8-5 but sit there up to 6-7 sometimes
22:14 <P4> we're trying to get theird ERP system to polish conditions
22:15 <P4> quite fucking hard task since it's actually a set of msaccess forms
22:15 <Liz> kurwa
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22:15 <P4> it barely handles produciton in german and belgian plants, and it must handle our polish much-more-complex production line with deadlines impossible to met
22:16 <P4> nvm, let's don't talk about the work…
22:16 <Liz> lol%
22:17 <P4> but AMS-BRU is about 30EUR and 2.5h away, so it's quite OK for me to go there
22:17 <P4> especially i plan to get more stuff this time ;)
22:17 <Liz> stuff=w33d?
22:17 <P4> yeh
22:18 <\u03b5> it's P4, what do you expect
22:19 <P4> hey, i don't smoke that much recently… it's all for my friends :þ
22:19 <P4> for instance, i haven't smoke for 2 weeks, while normally i was smoking everyday :þ
22:20 <\u03b5> call that "normally"
22:20 <\u03b5> :))
22:20 <P4> and i feel much better with that… but you know how what influence an environment press on one…
22:20 <sinewav> is that the only "instance"?
22:20 <\u03b5> sinewav, of?
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22:20 <sinewav> not smoking
22:20 <\u03b5> eugh blue paedobears
22:21 <Liz> i don't smoke weed :>
22:21 <P4> well… actually this is a great opportunity to leave an addiction and enter the tailored moments ;)
22:21 <P4> good for you, Liz
22:21 <\u00b5> pft
22:21 <\u00b5> i dont smoke weed anymore*
22:22 <Liz> duh i'm from holland, of course at some point i did
22:22 <\u00b5> :d
22:22 <\u00b5> hai awesine.wav
22:22 <P4> hopefuly you don't discriminate smokers :þ
22:22 <Liz> i think smoking cigs is useless
22:22 <\u00b5> it is
22:22 <Liz> but i don't care :)
22:22 <\u00b5> liar
22:23 <P4> smoking cigs is as useless as listening to good music or drinking a good wine
22:23 <Liz> i'm not anti-smoking, but no smoking allowed in my apt
22:23 <P4> or watching a good movie :þ
22:23 <\u00b5> "if u wana get cancer u can do it a better way than smoking"
22:23 <Liz> only in the backroom
22:23 <\u00b5> sth like that
22:23 <Liz> LOL!
22:23 <\u00b5> :P
22:26 <spidey> i miss pot
22:26 <spidey> she was my first love ;/
22:26 <Liz> get out of here filthy lungs!
22:26 <spidey> but to have a job in america, you can't smoke, or only smoke between drug tests ;'(
22:27 <P4> drug tests, lol\
22:27 <P4> amerika sucks :þ
22:27 <spidey> Liz, i would say eat me, but i think i'd rather eat you :>
22:27 <Liz> get out of here you filthy american!
22:27 <Liz> wat
22:27 <spidey> Lol
22:27 <P4> Watt*
22:27 <spidey> hey P4 long time ;D
22:27 <Liz> havent you heard, i'm a total dyke
22:27 <Liz> ew men etc..
22:27 <P4> oh yes, about… 2h :þ
22:27 <\u00b5> lol!
22:28 <Liz> <insert something in here what lesbians would say>
22:28 <\u00b5> rofl
22:28 <\u00b5> what do lesbians say :s
22:28 <Liz> i dont know
22:28 <P4> .ls emph
22:28 <tronner> P4: I haven\'t seen anyone matching “emph” yet, sorry.
22:29 
22:29 <Liz> dont see it
22:29 <\u00b5> its in yellow :<
22:29 <P4> it's in everytime, it should be there
22:29 <P4> ah shit, forgot to put the CONOSLE_MESSAGE in the beginning :þ
22:29 <\u00b5> p4 can we have it in the smexy colours?
22:30 <P4> it already is
22:30 <\u00b5> xD
22:30 <P4> but without the message :þ
22:30 <\u00b5> lolol
22:30 <Liz> nothing when i come in
22:30 <\u00b5> <P4>	ah shit, forgot to put the CONOSLE_MESSAGE in the beginning :þ
22:30 <P4> done
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22:30 <Liz> convinced that one person to do the same thing yet mya? :X
22:31 <Liz> lol theres already a TST server :S
22:31 <P4> .si tst
22:31 <\u00b5> which
22:31 <tronner> P4: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “tst” at the moment, sorry
22:31 <\u00b5> that one
22:31 <\u00b5> OH
22:31 <\u00b5> snhit
22:31 <\u00b5> -n
22:31 <\u00b5> no shes not on msn
22:31 <\u00b5> or wasnt
22:31  * \u00b5 checks
22:32 <Liz> P4: TST.2009.01 - |x|;s :p
22:32 <P4> .si -v 2009
22:33 <tronner> P4: TST 2009.01 - ¦×¦\'s (armagetron.at:4536) () running 0.2.8_alpha20090426 unix dedicated, url: http://xats.ath.cx/, Description: “TST-ready server.“, Players (12/8): -=}ID< Tremor, .×] Hoax, .×] JS, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), 3asy, Carwyn, cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@ct/jedi), CT_emmy (ct_emmy@L_OP), Desolate, Dr.Mojo, Orion, `WwRudycantfail
22:33 <Liz> wtf still dont see a msg in CT OS
22:33 <P4> ah , ok
22:33 <Liz> now i do
22:33 <Liz> ..
22:33 <\u00b5> lol!
22:33 <Liz> :D
22:34 <\u03b5> ow.
22:34  * \u03b5 forgot about resett
22:34 <\u03b5> [22:35] <pygamequery>: Info for <armagetronad://armagetron.at:4536>: TST 2009.01 - 0xRESETT¦×¦'s (12/8)
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22:34 <\u00b5> resett?
22:38 <P4> 0xcafeba :þ
22:40 <\u03b5> 0xdeadbe0xefcafe
22:40 <Liz> 0xwhat0x
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22:41 <P4> didn't know epsy follows MS shit (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/132349) :þ
22:41 <\u03b5> facefeed
22:41 <\u03b5> rofl
22:41 <P4> should be facepalm :þ
22:42 <\u03b5> but uuh, why do you say that? Oo
22:42 <P4> that's a first [plen skojarzenie] i found :þ
22:42 <P4> .plen skojarzenie
22:42 <tronner> P4: association
22:43 <P4> i'm not sure it's aproper translations
22:43 <P4> translation*
22:44 <P4> did i mention http://➽.ws/櫿? :þ
22:44 <\u03b5> yes you did
22:44 <\u03b5> when liz entered
22:44  * P4 goes downstarirs for a lil' smoke
22:44 <\u03b5> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/dubs11.png
22:44 <\u03b5> poor addons
22:45 <P4> what's that bug?
22:45 <\u03b5> firebug
22:45 <P4> ah, good i don't need it :þ
22:45 <\u03b5> an EXCELLENT javascript debugger
22:45 <P4> i block js :þ
22:46 <\u03b5> and replaces dom inspector very well, can sniff traffic etc
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23:11 <noob13> whats the purpose of max_in_rate and max_out_rate, again?
23:11 <joda_bot1> noob13: to limit the amount of bandwidth per client
23:12 <joda_bot1> I guess the values was in kbyte
23:12 <joda_bot1> but I'm not 100% sure
23:13 <noob13> ok, what if you change it on the client? no effect? server determines it?
23:13 <noob13> and why would you want to limit the bandwidth? :P
23:18 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 _rate
23:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" from being conquered (Default: 0.1) || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_RATE: Rate a fortress zone gets conquered with for each enemy in it (Default: 0.5) || FORTRESS_DEFEND_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" for each defending player (Default: 0.25) || MAX_IN_RATE: Maximum network input rate (Default: 8) || MAX_OUT_RATE: Maximum network (1 more message)
23:19 <\u03b5> normally, client should be affected by these just as well as the server
23:19 <\u03b5> I don't think the code distuguishes client & server for that
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23:25 <noob13> what might happen if i change the values?
23:25 <noob13> hardly anything?
23:25 <noob13> more/less lag? :P

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01:05 <\u00b5> \o
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02:35 <noob13> What Can I Wear With a "Fedora" Hat?
02:35 <noob13> :D ...i had to laugh
02:36 <ct|kyle> ya noob13
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09:36 <noob13> .sd cheers
09:36 <tronner> noob13: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (2/12):
09:36 <noob13> O_o
09:36 <noob13> somethings not right
09:37 <noob13> claims to have two users while its actually empty..
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17:22 <luke-jr_> so guys
17:23 <luke-jr_> I have $50 in Google AdWords credits
17:23 <luke-jr_> I can use (some of?) it for Armagetron...
17:23 <luke-jr_> who is good at making ads?
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17:49 <sinewav> luke-jr: I'm an artist. we can work on something if you like.
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21:30 <K-Yo> hello
21:30 <K-Yo> how are numbers given in the console log?
21:30 <K-Yo> like: "[1] New user: 1"
21:31 <K-Yo> why is it 1?
21:31 <K-Yo> how will the next be chosen?
21:31 <K-Yo> apparently, the next one can be the same number... http://pastebin.com/d7f1974c7
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21:35 <K-Yo> \u03b5: may I bring your attention to what I just wrote?
21:45 <K-Yo> \u03b5: CT have a US server for TST too if needed, but we'll let it as FPL until it's needed
21:46 <ct|kyle> s|have|has
21:46 <K-Yo> whatever
21:46 <K-Yo> =)
21:46 <ct|kyle> I guess epsy would probably understand the Frenglish better anyway :P
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02:57 <spidey> BOO
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07:41 <noob13> .as
07:41 <tronner> noob13: This data is 14 seconds old; ID -=}< OPEN SuMo (9/12), Wild West  =Dog Fight= (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), `|pNd+ Loose DF (3/10), degree°Fortress (3/32), Wild West  =High Rubber= (2/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2/8), SpleafNet Test (2/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (1/16), Saffy's Shower (1/12), -=VcL.Clan New (1 more message)
07:41 <noob13> .ys
07:41 <tronner> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine: Players (5/12): AnGeL, Laghole Son, max, |FA|CLU, |Flynn
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02:34 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
02:34 <armabot> pong
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06:16 <armabot> lpbugs: [492844] md5 authentication fails with empty prefix <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/492844> || [437380] 0.3 servers don't represent WIN_ZONE_INITIAL_SIZE correctly <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/437380> || [427506] Random client crash as spec on 0.2.8.3rc2 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/427506> || [423182] zones don't work if there is no point 0,0 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/423182> || [420529] Uninstall script ge
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11:32 <\u00b5> P4: what's with the pings in ctos? :s
11:46 <noob13> whats with them &epsilon;?
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18:54 <Vanhayes> .as
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20:10 <akira_arma> woa
20:10 <akira_arma> where did they all come from?
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20:22 <Vanhayes> .si ds
20:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (14/14): -=}ID< ARî (arilou@forums), -=}ID< Force, -=}ID< INW (INW@forums), -=}ID< Soapy, -=}ID< Tremor (-=}id<_tremor@L_OP), -=}ID< tyler, ~|DS|~ Plage (plage@forums), ~|DS|~dvDosc (dvDosc@forums), ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~Mustang, ~|DS|~noname, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums), ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (alien@ct/public), ~|DS|~|CruZ|~ (CruZ@forums)
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Log from 2009-12-14:
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00:25 <madmax> woot, looks like I missed the new drama thread. any awesomely funny stuff in there?
00:25 <sinewav> dunno.
00:25 <sinewav> but I was just about to say I can't believe how happy I feel today. I think I'm having a manic episode.
00:26 <luke-jr> sinewav is bipolar?
00:26 <luke-jr> <.<
00:27 <sinewav> luke-jr: I have some...er...problems...
00:27 <luke-jr> ...
00:27 <Lackadaisical> wow it has 15 pages in two days
00:27 <sinewav> sometimes requires hospitalization
00:27 <sinewav> any of it good?
00:27 <sinewav> even 1/15th?
00:28 <Lackadaisical> i dont have high hopes
00:28 <Lackadaisical> i saw z-man posted in it :o
00:29 <sinewav> I saw that on the first page. Then lost interest.
00:37 <ct|kyle> wich one?
00:37 <ct|kyle> oh
00:38 <ct|kyle> the one I've been ignoring for the past week
00:38 <sinewav> ct|kyle: 2 days.
00:38 <Lackadaisical> i guess that's the only sensible thing to do
00:39 <ct|kyle> sinewav: there was another thread like it too
00:39 <ct|kyle> I need to white some script to just make some topics stay hiden :P
00:40 <ct|kyle> but I'm addicted to the latest firefox, and 99% of the good  plugins don't work with it :(
00:43 <sinewav> Yeah there should be an ignore topic feature.
00:43 <sinewav> so it doesn't show in your new posts and stuff.
00:43 <ct|kyle> ya
00:43 <sinewav> can't someone here write it into phpBB3?
00:43 <sinewav> :)
00:44 <ct|kyle> mark topics read does not satisfy me
00:44 <sinewav> Maybe there is a plugin already written for phpbb3. I'll look later.
00:46 <ct|kyle> looks like there are
00:49 <sinewav> Oh you know what would be awesome? If you could automatically ignore all posts started by people on your ignore list. man that would rule.
00:50 <sinewav> I could eliminate half the post I wade through everytime I login.
00:50 <madmax> indeed
00:52 <ct|kyle> yes
00:52 <ct|kyle> I agree
00:54 <ct|kyle> at least any post by someone in foes list should not show up as unread topic
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09:00 <luke-jr> ...
09:00 <luke-jr> FaceBook is trying to sell me a T-shirt that says "Flynn's Arcade"
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10:46 <noob13> .weather jyvaskyla, finland
10:46 <noob13> #weather jyvaskyla, finland
10:46 <armabot> noob13: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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13:44 <noob13> .as
13:44 <tronner> noob13: This data is 57 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr) (6/12), ~Wild Night~DF~ (5/10), The YELLOW Submarine (4/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (2/12), WILDCAT (1/8), >>> FAST TRACK TRAINING SERVER <<< (1/2)
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17:16 <akira_arma> z-man-work: I think you should employ a more rigid forum-trill banning policy
17:16 <akira_arma> troll*
17:16 <z-man-work> Trills deserve banning, too!
17:17 <akira_arma> :)
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17:27 <z-man-work> Wait, aren't Trill a Star Trek race? The ones with the worm in their gut?
17:28 <z-man-work> And annoying emo problems because each worm goes through several humanoid hosts in his life?
17:28 <luke-jr> Trill is a baby navi in Rockman.EXE Beast
17:29 <z-man-work> That would be useful information if I knew what a navi was. Or Rockman.EXE Beast.
17:29 <z-man-work> Argh, anime.
17:29 <luke-jr> lol
17:47 <Long_Shoota> i think that was a tribble
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18:11 <z-man-work> Long_Shoota: no, those are the cute little furry things that multiply like crazy. Born pregnant, as Bones notes.
18:13 <z-man-work> Of course, we neither want them nor emo symbionts nor mythical norse monsters on our forums.
18:14 <luke-jr> just greek gods
18:14 <z-man-work> They're fine. The Greeks knew what being a God is all about.
18:14 <z-man-work> Not that pansy 'love all humans' thing.
18:15 <z-man-work> No, disguising as a bull or swan to get a mortal girl, that's where it's at.
18:15 <z-man-work> Not to mention all the smiting with trown lightning and stuff.
18:16 <sinewav> Norse gods too.
18:16 <z-man-work> Getting wars started by fullfiling a man's wish to get the most beautiful woman on the world.
18:17 <z-man-work> Sending off a guy to roam the seas aimlessly for ten years because he thought his cunning and not the help of the gods won that war.
18:18 <sinewav> That's good stuff right there.
18:18 <z-man-work> Anyway, Greek and Norse and Egyptian gods are all welcome on the forums.
18:19 <z-man-work> Romans, too, but they're posers.
18:20 <z-man-work> Quetzalcoatl is definitely welcome.
18:20 <z-man-work> And Ganesha.
18:20 <z-man-work> Dunno about the other Hindu things, but Ganesha kicks ass.
18:22 <z-man-work> Oh crap, Fire Barons apparently now cost 175 fans. How are we supposed to spam them now?
18:38 <sinewav> Oh, in the Bhagavad Gita, the god Krishna tells Arjuna not to worry about killing his brothers in war because it's his duty to do so.
18:38 <sinewav> Hinduism is a little brutal at times. Lots of demon faces and swords and shit.18:43 <z-man-work> Oh fine, they can come too, then.
18:43 <ct|kyle> so who are we banning?
18:44 <z-man-work> EVERYONE.
18:44 <\u03b5> especially SpideyLol
18:44 <ct|kyle> that is one way to stop the spam
18:45 <\u03b5> but yeah, I'm quite getting tired of VcL vs ID popping up here
18:45 <ct|kyle> and guru3
18:45 <\u03b5> and guru3 should really wake up >.<
18:50 <PinkTomato> someone needs banning?
18:50 <PinkTomato> has it got that bad?
18:51 <ct|kyle> 15 pages in 2 days
18:51 <\u03b5> <2 days
18:51 <ct|kyle> if there was just in ignore topic button
18:51 <ct|kyle> then we sould not have to see all them lolcats
18:52 <PinkTomato> Who stuck the stupidly large image that made everything one line?
18:52 <\u03b5> certainly not me
18:53 <PinkTomato> haha
18:53 <\u03b5> but heh, the earlier pages were flawed by oversized screenshots before I came
18:53 <PinkTomato> found it, though it has caused my browser to hang
18:53 <\u03b5> It gave me the idea
18:53 <\u03b5> what browser?
18:53 <luke-jr> maybe VcL vs ID will stop if the devteam takes a side
18:53  * luke-jr ducks
18:54 <ct|kyle> but the thing is it's just VCL posting for the most part
18:54 <PinkTomato> Firefox 3.5.5, I can't "View Image" properly
18:54 <\u03b5> properly?
18:54 <ct|kyle> then again I did not read hardly any of the 15 pages
18:54 <\u03b5> luke-jr, I take the side of "fuck you both"
18:54 <PinkTomato> \u03b5, it's kinda bizarre, if you open, http://epsy46.free.fr/enlarge.gif, on my browser the old content is not removed.
18:55 <ct|kyle> I'd say anyone in my foe list just ban
18:55 <\u03b5> lol
18:55 <ct|kyle> that includes luke-jr :P
18:55 <luke-jr> f u
18:55 <ct|kyle> well should be he dies not post enough to add
18:55 <ct|kyle> s|be|but
18:56 <ct|kyle> s|dies does
18:56 <\u03b5> what is this heretic s syntax?
18:56 <ct|kyle> you never saw that? s for switch word (with word
18:57 <\u03b5> so, lord tried to do s/pattern/replace but failed to keep a consistent syntax?
18:58 <ct|kyle> sure
18:58 <\u03b5> lol
18:58 <\u03b5> why do they have to change the syntax
18:58 <luke-jr> uhm
18:58 <luke-jr> what?
18:59 <luke-jr> for a start, the final / is required
18:59 <luke-jr> s/foo/bar/
18:59 <ct|kyle> .slap luke-jr 2
18:59  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with the vicious file system
18:59  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with a lost shadowrunner
18:59 <luke-jr> secondly, / can be pretty much any character
18:59 <luke-jr> s|a|b| is common for regex with / in them
18:59 <luke-jr> s(a)(b) is also valid
18:59 <luke-jr> as is s[a][b]
19:00 <ct|kyle> s{a}{b}  too?
19:00 <luke-jr> I think
19:00  * luke-jr tests
19:00 <luke-jr> yep
19:01 <luke-jr> s{a{2}}{b} even works :p
19:01 <sinewav> How about colons?
19:01 <luke-jr> yeah, colons are pretty common too
19:01 <luke-jr> s:a:b:
19:01 <sinewav> man, is there nothing it can't do?
19:01 <luke-jr> fairly readable too IMO
19:02 <luke-jr> sinewav: nothing.,
19:02 <ct|kyle> s#a#b#
19:02 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that just wastes ink!
19:02 <ct|kyle> what about s<a><b>
19:02 <luke-jr> sinewav: http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Lingua-Romana-Perligata-0.50/lib/Lingua/Romana/Perligata.pm#SUMMARIUM
19:02 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yeah, that works
19:03 <sinewav> luke-jr: omg that is the strangest thing
19:04 <luke-jr> LOL
19:04 <ct|kyle> what 3 questions should I ask about the windows registry
19:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: 1. why does it exist?
19:04 <luke-jr> 2. whose insane idea was it?
19:04 <luke-jr> 3. who needs to die to get rid of it?
19:04 <luke-jr> obvious
19:05 <ct|kyle> hmm don't think those will work, I have to have answers too
19:05 <luke-jr> lol
19:05 <luke-jr> why ask questions if you already have answers?
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19:06 <sinewav> 42
19:06 <luke-jr> sinewav: point made
19:06 <luke-jr> well done
19:06 <sinewav> ;)
19:06 <ct|kyle> my final Exam for my XP command line class is write 3 questions with answers on 26 topics that were given to us, don't worry I have plenty of linux questions in is already
19:06 <ct|kyle> I also have to have source of information
19:07 <ct|kyle> I was going to cite #armagetron on irc.freenode.net :P
19:07 <luke-jr> haha
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19:08 <PinkTomato> XP Command Line Class?
19:08 <ct|kyle> yes
19:08 <PinkTomato> Is the windows Command Line that big?
19:08 <ct|kyle> no
19:08 <ct|kyle> maybe 20 commands
19:09 <PinkTomato> hehe :), Though one could say the same as unix?
19:09 <ct|kyle> that we were taught through the class
19:10 <ct|kyle> no dir instead of ls, md for mkdir, ren for mv
19:10 <ct|kyle> only thing the same is cd I believe
19:12 <PinkTomato> Ah, I meant the amount of commands must be about the same, as I was thinking that *nix seems to be much more powerful, but they would be separate programs, I think.
19:13 <PinkTomato> Oh, I didn't know there was a shorthand for mkdir on windows :)
19:13 <ct|kyle> maybe, I'll find out next semester :P
19:13 <ct|kyle> when I take Advanced operating systems (unix)
19:14 <ct|kyle> you know rd too right?
19:14 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle, assuming it is rmdir?
19:14 <ct|kyle> ya
19:14 <ct|kyle> rd /s C:\
19:15 <PinkTomato> Why say advanced? :P, if anything *nix is easier
19:15 <PinkTomato> It does what you want
19:15 <ct|kyle> that is what they call is
19:15 <ct|kyle> it*
19:17 <ct|kyle> and windows xp command line was required before taking that
19:18 <PinkTomato> ah :), next one should be good :),
19:18 <ct|kyle> ya
19:39 <P4> 14Dec09 190854 <ct¦kyle> maybe 20 commands ← you're crazy? :Ăľ
19:39 <P4> did you count all the rundll features? :þ
19:56 <ct|kyle> P4: that we coverend in my class
19:56 <ct|kyle> covered*
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11:35 <madmax> almost a bot ladle team: http://imgur.com/IjyKg
11:45 <K-Yo> madmax, what's that? p_P
11:45 <K-Yo> o_O
11:47 <madmax> a bunch of bots reading the drama threads
11:51 <K-Yo> ^^
11:51 <K-Yo> they love it
11:51 <K-Yo> .servers
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11:51 <K-Yo> .si ds
11:51 <tronner> K-Yo: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (2/32): noob13, rugkei
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17:26 <madmax> .as
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19:17 <sinewave> who is in charge of the resource repo now?
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20:25 <\u03b5> \u00b5, ping
20:25 <\u00b5> ty
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20:54 <\u03b5> emphasis, wrong email
20:54 <\u03b5> well
20:55 <\u03b5> "mailbox unavailable"
21:14 <emphasis> i did receive mail, so must be good
21:14 <emphasis> and so did gonzap :D
21:16 <emphasis> how come, we are not confirmed in sign up, while we both clicked on the link in the email?
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21:27 <\u03b5> emphasis, gonzap hasnt confirmed
21:30 <ct|kyle> .slap gonzap
21:30  * tronner slaps gonzap around with a white bug
21:30 <emphasis> hmm, gonz says: they said that confirmation will have to wait
21:31 <\u03b5> it works now, but his mailbox doesnt work
21:32 <emphasis> ah, damn gonzy :D
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21:46 <K-Yo> .servers
21:46 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 20 seconds old; Mini-TST 2010.01 degree° (13/32), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), |FA| Devils Rings! (9/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), [] Cheers! reloaded [] (7/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (7/32), WILDCAT (6/8), `|pNd+ Loose DF (6/10), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted (1 more message)
21:46 <K-Yo> .ctos
21:46 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): BuDDha Ant, freetosk8brd, Frosty Frank, harrGGsel (GluGGsel@ct/public), judd, punish, sei.nub\', Sena 21, Simon
21:50 <emphasis> ah, gonzzap's mail was indeed wrong, its without an underscore :X
21:50 <emphasis> could you change that, or should i sign us up again?
21:51 <emphasis> see pm
21:55 <ct|kyle> emphasis: it is @gmail.com too
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21:55 <emphasis> allready told that in pm :P
22:04 <ct|kyle> heh hoax http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=215862#p215862
22:08 <madmax> that's a sensible post if you ask me
22:13 <ct|kyle> I know
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22:36 <madmax> .as
22:36 <tronner> madmax: This data is 60 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (7/8), .:VcL:.Clan Sumo (7/12), Mini-TST 2010.01 degree° (7/32), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Sumo (US) [Ã. (6/32), [] Cheers! reloaded [] (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), WILDCAT (5/8), (1 more message)
22:36 <madmax> .ls lack
22:36 <tronner> madmax: Slack seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
22:36 <madmax> .ls lackad
22:36 <tronner> madmax: Lackadaisical has last been seen on Mini-TST 2010.01 degree° 2 minutes ago.
22:36 <madmax> erm
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22:56 <madmax> .aka madmax
22:56 <tronner> madmax: [Errno 113] No route to host
22:56 <madmax> #aka madmax
22:56 <armabot> madmax: [Errno 101] Network is unreachable
22:56 <madmax> heh
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23:25 <sinewav> ct|kyle: you around?
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23:25 <sinewav> luke-jr: good evening sir
23:25 <luke-jr> no u
23:26 <sinewav> :|
23:27 <sinewav> luke-jr: oh, just so you know. I'm unemployed. Although it's unlikely I'll stop renting from you, I wanted to let you know the possibility is there.
23:28 <sinewav> just so you're not surpised later.
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00:58 <Flex> #lastseen sinewav
00:58 <armabot> Flex: timed out
00:58 <Flex> .lastseen sinewav
00:58 <tronner> Flex: timed out
01:00 <Flex> .m sinewav what's happening with the fpl? "*December matches to be based upon standings at that time" exactly at what time was/is it decided?
01:00 <tronner> Flex: The operation succeeded.
01:01 <sinewav> Flex: Yo, I'll find out about the FPL. I was wondering that myself.
01:03 <Flex> oh you're here
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01:03 <Flex> how did i not see you! lol
01:04 <sinewav> I never know if I'm here. my client is wacky the last 2 days
01:04 <sinewav> or maybe it freenode
01:04 <sinewav> idk
01:04 <Flex> it's my eyes
01:04 <Flex> well who exactly is sp going to play?
01:04 <Flex> is this december the end of fpl? kind of want to finish this soon
01:05 <Flex> or the "season"
01:05 <sinewav> yes, final matches this month. I'll find out from Concord.
01:05 <sinewav> he originally wanted a play-off, but i don't know.
01:06 <Flex> yes please.. personally FPL has shown that playing weekly is too much, kind of occupies too many weekends. so if you guys plan to continue, maybe twice a month would be suitable
01:06 <sinewav> this was a great learning experience for all I think.
01:07 <Flex> i don't think everyone liked it
01:07 <sinewav> next FPL will be much different I suppose
01:07 <Flex> but it was something new
01:07 <sinewav> maybe a 4v4 once a month would be cool.
01:07 <sinewav> I even thought maybe onslaught or 4-team fort, haha
01:08 <Flex> 5v5 is perfect
01:08 <sinewav> yes, that is good.
01:08 <sinewav> I'm sure there will be a discussion thread in a few months.
01:09 <sinewav> work out the bugs.
01:09 <Flex> 6 ensures both wings have an outside, but with a 5vs5 you can decide if you want your defender to go all the way with the team
01:09 <sinewav> also, 5v5 adds more decisions on offense/defensive "weight"
01:09 <sinewav> that's important
01:09 <Flex> yeah, i think that's something give more balance to stratergy rather than brute force
01:10 <sinewav> I totally agree
01:11 <Flex> how soon can you let us know who SP plays?
01:11 <sinewav> I'm posting on the Plus wiki now. 24 hours methinks.
01:12 <Flex> if we can finish this off this sunday, it would be great, because things are busy this month for everybody i guess
01:23 <Flex> .lastmessage Flex
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02:42 <ct|kyle> sinewav: pong
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04:42 <sinewav> luke-jr: a question coming your way...
04:44 <sinewav> How difficult would it be to grab player's high scores from the server and output them to MESSAGE_OF_DAY? lemme know.
04:46 <luke-jr> not very
04:47 <sinewav> you see where I'm going with this?
04:47 <sinewav> haha
04:47 <sinewav> I, of course, will pay you for your time.
04:48 <sinewav> no rush though. the game isn't quite ready yet.
04:48 <sinewav> I just wanted to put the idea in your head.
04:48 <ct|kyle> lies, you just wanted a lame-ass comment
04:48 <sinewav> haha
04:48 <ct|kyle> err smart-ass*
04:49 <sinewav> I was hoping for a more derogatory comment that "not very"
04:49 <sinewav> than*
04:50 <sinewav> "not very hard for a genuis like me" would have been good.
04:50 <luke-jr> sinewav: no, I have no idea where you're going with it
04:51 <luke-jr> seriously though, it's mostly just replacing \n with \\\n and prefixing it with MESSAGE_OF_THE_DAY<space>
04:53 <sinewav> that's what I thought. The new server idea I'm working on would be great if it had people's high scores available.
04:53 <sinewav> it's modeled after the original TRON arcade game.
04:54 <sinewav> I'll let you know more later.
04:54 <ct|kyle> the one you want uber awesome bots for?
04:54 <sinewav> uh huh
04:56 <ct|kyle> heh, I forgot I have my Limit respawns hack on my VPA
04:56 <ct|kyle> I really should push it but I think it needs more testing, as it may be buggy :P
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08:27 <noob13> .later tell \u00b5 hey, Thump signed me up with an ancient hotmail account so I didnt receive a TST confirmation e-mail. how do you suggest we proceed?
08:27 <tronner> noob13: The operation succeeded.
08:27 <noob13> \u00b5: ^
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08:27 <\u00b5> lol
08:27 <\u00b5> erm
08:28 <noob13> you're dubs, right? :P
08:28 <\u00b5> can you pm me on forums with the names you used to sign up & emails, and the email you wanna use instead?
08:28 <\u00b5> yea
08:28 <\u00b5> lol
08:29 <noob13> sure, i'll do that.
08:29 <\u00b5> ty
08:29 <noob13> are you dubStep on the forums?
08:29 <\u00b5> yea
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17:33 <\u00b5> noob13: there?
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17:57 <noob13> wb
17:58 <noob13> or re, whatever :P
17:58 <noob13> .as
17:58 <tronner> noob13: This data is 48 seconds old; degree°Fortress (13/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/12), WILDCAT (6/8), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), .:Prutopolis:. .:Loose DF:. (5/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), [] Cheers! reloaded [] (3/12), XZL  -=High Rubber=-  Mirror (2/16), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), Wild West  =Wild (1 more message)
17:58 <noob13> .sd -v degree
17:58 <tronner> noob13: degree°Fortress (degree.asdf.ch:4541) () running 0.3_alpha_z956 unix dedicated, url: http://degree.asdf.ch, Description: “Café fortress settings.“, Players (13/32): -=WoD=- LAVA, -||BS|Sunrise, AtomicTide, boo, Clinical, freetosk8brd, harrGGsel, Jip (Jip@forums), liz° (Lizmatic@forums), zac atk, `WwM0Nk, ~|DS|~°DoCtOrÂ, ~|DS|~Mustang
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02:07 <ct|kyle> LOL sinewav
02:08 <sinewav> acid?
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02:08 <ct|kyle> ya02:08 <sinewav> haha
02:08 <ct|kyle> that was your version of Flex's right?
02:08 <sinewav> yes
02:09 <sinewav> dude, why does the rubber code have to be so complicated?
02:09 <sinewav> I wish I had a flowchar to something.
02:09 <ct|kyle> it's not too bad
02:09 <sinewav> flowchart*
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02:10 <ct|kyle> sinewav: http://www.flickr.com/photos/heyitsnoah/320683673/
02:12 <sinewav> nice
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03:10 <Flex> huh? what version
03:10 <Flex> ct|kyle
03:11 <ct|kyle> Flex: read the how I got started in tron topic, the post right under yours
03:12 <Flex> lol??
03:12 <ct|kyle> that is sinewav's version of what you said :P
03:13 <Flex> why does he have a version?
03:13 <ct|kyle> because yours is not as believable as his
03:14 <Flex> really? well that's what happened..
03:14 <Flex> what makes it unbelievable?
03:14  * Flex confused..
03:15 <ct|kyle> because "Found a party with a bunch of drugs, and randomly took some without  asking what it was. It happened to be acid and never tried anything else  after that. I think it was around early 2006, tripped for a few days,  then got lost in the woods, but a few months later I was bored and  remembered it was fun and found it after searching for quite a bit!  Couldn't remember the damn name hehe." is
03:15 <Flex> sinewav, enlighten me on the joke..
03:21 <sinewav> Flex: hey man, that's not a burn on you. I thought it was funny to compare arma to drugs, which it is, and your entry inspired me. You inspired creative writing. I don't hate you bro, for real.
03:22 <sinewav> if you are offended I'll delete it. But don't be, becuae it's hilarious.
03:22 <Flex> no i'm not it's ok
03:22 <sinewav> I don't think anyone is taking it as animosity.
03:22 <Flex> i just didn't quite get it03:22 <sinewav> ok
03:22 <sinewav> phew
03:23 <Flex> sorry to kill your fun
03:23 <Flex> lol
03:23 <sinewav> ;)
03:23 <ct|kyle> I almost did not get it at first, because I read it then I read Flex's almost did not read Flex's
03:24 <ct|kyle> .slap xfroggy
03:24  * tronner slaps xfroggy around with a remote controlled w6
03:24 <Flex> i'm a tron addict
03:25 <Flex> i'll go see a doctor and see if i can stop the habbit
03:25 <ct|kyle> heh
03:25 <sinewav> I should have quoted Flex's entry.
03:25 <ct|kyle> did you know altavista is still alive
03:26 <Flex> sinewav, it wasn't you, it was ct|kyle for saying mine isn't believable :(
03:26 <ct|kyle> :)
03:26 <Flex> as if i lied to make my life seem more interesting, for popularity!
03:26 <sinewav> kyle, don't fuck up the joke.
03:26 <Flex> yeah, you dick!
03:26 <ct|kyle> I just wanted Flex to see it
03:27 <Flex> i think it was this link
03:27 <Flex> http://osswin.sourceforge.net/games.html
03:28 <ct|kyle> heh, Altavista is better at finding relevant pages for crazy tronners than is is from armagetron
03:29 <ct|kyle> you'd have to be still hungover from acid and tired from getting lost in the forest to goto that site :P
03:30 <ct|kyle> sorry Flex, it's just looks like a site your would have to be tripped to navigate it
03:30 <Flex> it had a white background, when i was there first
03:30 <Flex> list was more centreed and longer!
03:31 <ct|kyle> did the links get bigger though?
03:31 <Flex> sinewav, psyko, insanity, psy can't make it this sunday, hopefully if the others are good we're still good
03:31 <sinewav> Man, had Arma been named differently, you might have chosen GLTron.
03:31 <sinewav> Ok, flex. Plus has 3 members committed right now.
03:31 <Flex> thank my lazieness that i never scrolled down!
03:31 <Flex> my life would have been different
03:31 <sinewav> glTron rocks though. not like Arma, but different
03:32 <ct|kyle> you would have keps looking for games and given up
03:32 <ct|kyle> gltrom has AI's
03:32 <ct|kyle> gltron*
03:33 <Flex> yeah
03:33 <Flex> lol
03:33 <Flex> http://codenautics.com/zombies/ss5.jpg
03:33 <Flex> http://codenautics.com/zombies/ss4.jpg
03:33 <ct|kyle> noone has tweeted armagetron since last night when I found someone tweet it
03:34 <ct|kyle> I really kind of like yebol  http://www.yebol.com/newsearch?key=armagetron&t=s&x=0&y=0
03:34 <Flex> TrueCombat: Elite is an awesome game
03:34 <Flex> free, too
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14:36 <noob13> \u03b5: got my pm? can i just sign us up again?
14:36 <noob13> \u03b5: if its not full yet.
14:36 <noob13> :|
14:37 <noob13> 28 teams so far it seems..
15:21 <\u03b5> where did you send me a PM noob13 ?
15:22 <noob13> main forums..?
15:23 <noob13> hm, apparently i failed.
15:23 <noob13> anyways, i was signed up with the e-mail address, and haven't gotten a confirmation..
15:24 <noob13> should i register again? or can you ninja it somehow?
15:25 <noob13> oh, and i meant to say "with the WRONG* e-mail address" above..
15:31 <\u03b5> I can ninja!
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20:12 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: what's the COMMAND stuff you added into tron do again
20:12 <\u03b5> I'm not sure what you mean?
20:12 <\u03b5> *-?
20:12 <ct|kyle> the handle_command_intercept
20:12 <\u03b5> ah
20:13 <ct|kyle> how does it work
20:13 <\u03b5> I think that's luke's work, but I worked with that once
20:13 <\u03b5> basically, you have two modes for it
20:13 <\u03b5> either grab everything with a / and which isnt recognized by arma and send them to the log or w/e
20:14 <\u03b5> or set a list of commands that will go to that place
20:15 <ct|kyle> so it essentially eliminates the ct code for it?
20:15 <\u03b5> I don't know anything to the ct codebase, sorry
20:15 <ct|kyle> we have COMMAND for /cmd  and INVALID_COMMAND for /whaterer is not recognized
20:16 <\u03b5> ah
20:16 <\u03b5> there's probably a setting to send it to ladderlog
20:16 <ct|kyle> y it uses COMMAND
20:17 <ct|kyle> I could not figure out why CTWF was crashing, then I found that it uses the same
20:17 <\u03b5> because it's the logical way to name it I guess :)
20:18 <\u03b5> if you do modifications and keep merging from mainline, pay more attention to silent conflicts by reading changelogs
20:18 <ct|kyle> ya it did not realize is used COMMAND like ours
20:18 <\u03b5> it crashed reading the line?
20:19 <ct|kyle> it crashed because there were 2 instances of sg_command_writter
20:19 <\u03b5> ah
20:20 <ct|kyle> I think I'll just change your COMMAND output in Sty+ct and just make 1 command writter
20:21 <ct|kyle> or change ours to CMD
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22:53 <noob13> .as
22:53 <tronner> noob13: This data is 16 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! reloaded [] (10/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), -=VcL.Clan Team Sumo (10/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (7/12), degree°Mini-TST (7/32), |FA| Devils Rings! (6/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2 more messages)
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Log from 2009-12-18:
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01:00 <jono0080> hi there
01:00 <jono0080> i have a tec issue but not sure where to go for help im running on 9.04
01:02 <jono0080> O:-)
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01:02 <luke-jr_> what 9.04?
01:02 <luke-jr_> fail
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02:41 <Spidey_> tron is at v9.04?
02:41 <Spidey_> wow
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04:26 <luke-jr_> hehehe
04:26 <luke-jr_> Spidey_: you're back for good? :D
04:27 <luke-jr_> how about some freeciv?
04:27 <luke-jr_> getting tired of AIs
04:27 <Spidey_> um
04:27 <Spidey_> i'm on dialup
04:27 <Spidey_> and i have to work tomorrow
04:27 <Spidey_> and the next day
04:27 <Spidey_> and the next day
04:27 <Spidey_> and the day after that
04:28 <Spidey_> which means i'm going to sleep now, cya
04:28 <Spidey_> btw, what happened to luci
04:29 <luke-jr_> I guess he moved to Kansas
04:29 <luke-jr_> or something like that
04:29 <Spidey_> O.o
04:29 <ct|kyle> sinewav: with his brother
04:30 <Spidey_> i'm working 60+ hours a week
04:30 <Spidey_> now
04:30 <Spidey_> fulltime + parttime
04:30 <luke-jr_> why
04:30 <Spidey_> i'm making quite a bit of money
04:30 <luke-jr_> but why? :p
04:30 <Spidey_> i fdon't even need it
04:30 <Spidey_> why not?
04:30 <luke-jr_> money is useless itself
04:30 <luke-jr_> it exists merely as a means to something else
04:31 <Spidey_> with money you buy things you want/need
04:31 <luke-jr_> Spidey_: wanna finance a startup?
04:31 <luke-jr_> I want to design an AR wearable
04:31 <Spidey_> but i'm young,  20,  so why not make as much as you can early,  off,
04:32 <luke-jr_> Dennou Coil style
04:32 <Spidey_> instead of busting your ass down the road to support a kid etc :P
04:32 <Spidey_> besides that, i want to goto college sometime
04:32 <Spidey_> X_x
04:32 <luke-jr_> why?
04:32 <luke-jr_> college is fail
04:32 <Spidey_> the degree?
04:32 <ct|kyle> Spidey_: I agreee with you being the same age
04:32 <luke-jr_> very few things can be learned better than trial and error
04:33 <Spidey_> luke-jr_, so what?
04:33 <luke-jr_> no, the paper is worth something
04:33 <luke-jr_> but only if you get taken to court or such
04:33 <Spidey_> your employeer won't know that
04:33 <luke-jr_> Spidey_: your employer is likely to see more value in 4 years of work experience than a piece of paper ;)
04:34 <Spidey_> luke-jr_, assuming you can find a job that will last 4 years without the peice of paper
04:34 <Spidey_> if you did good for you
04:34 <Spidey_> tennessee isn't as easy
04:34 <Spidey_> (i tried many places )
04:34 <Spidey_> but they only want the paper
04:34 <Spidey_> so shush
04:34 <ct|kyle> if you smart turn that paper into something else
04:34 <luke-jr_> the first few years can be hobby/gratis
04:35 <luke-jr_> I have to work with a bunch of masters students who have interns at a company I do work for
04:35 <luke-jr_> they're all idiots :(
04:36 <luke-jr_> they know how to use Google and type up what they read
04:36 <luke-jr_> that's about it
04:36 <Spidey_> just depends
04:36 <Spidey_> how much you make a hr
04:37 <luke-jr_> depends on the project
04:37 <luke-jr_> the lowest I work for right now (not including stuff I do on my own time) is $25/hr
04:37 <Spidey_> mm
04:37 <Spidey_> right now i'm working for dollar general
04:38 <Spidey_> my manager told me if i kept up the way i am
04:38 <Spidey_> within a year or 2 i could have my own store to manage
04:38 <luke-jr_> yeah right
04:38 <luke-jr_> but good luck ;)
04:38 <Spidey_> ..
04:38 <Spidey_> now i remember why i disliked you, heh
04:38 <luke-jr_> Spidey_: in general, managed can almost never cross over into management
04:39 <luke-jr_> that's just how the US works
04:39 <luke-jr_> :/
04:39 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: lies
04:39 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: at least in the tech industry
04:39 <Spidey_> luke-jr_, when the district manager is always complimenting on how great of a job you're doing
04:39 <luke-jr_> Spidey_: the jobs of managed and managers are entirely different
04:40 <luke-jr_> they use different skills
04:40 <Spidey_> i actually know this
04:40 <luke-jr_> unfortunately, the way things are, the managers are always idiots on the actual job stuff :/
04:40 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: your theory does not apply to Spidey_
04:40 <Spidey_> and retail is NOT tech
04:40 <luke-jr_> perhaps, I'm no expert in retail
04:41 <Spidey_> it's completely different
04:41 <ct|kyle> retail I've seen several people climb the ladder quick
04:41 <Spidey_> retail is the easiest ladder to climb
04:41 <ct|kyle> ya
04:41 <Spidey_> especially when dollar general, over a little time, gives you management training
04:43 <Spidey_> atleast, my manager does, he retired from district manager in verizon
04:43 <Spidey_> came back as kroger manager, then dollar general, to help his son goto college
04:43 <Spidey_> anyways, i'm going to sleep
04:43 <Spidey_> 'night
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05:59 <ct|kyle> .m P4 in the next day or 2 I'm going to change is so COMMAND will print the correct format for you, so if you are not in a hurry to update binaries don't :P
05:59 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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09:31 <noob13> .sd arcade
09:31 <tronner> noob13: Flynn\'s Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan Nano: Players (0/8):
09:32 <noob13> .sd original
09:32 <tronner> noob13: Adventures of TRON >> Original Arcade <<: Players (0/4):
09:32 <noob13> .sd -v original
09:32 <tronner> noob13: Adventures of TRON >> Original Arcade << (65.18.193.128:4539) (orificeplate.com) running 0.2.8_alpha20080822 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Inspired by the classic 80\'s arcade game \"TRON\"“, Players (0/4):
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15:08 <Vanhayes> If anyone is kicking around, and know, what is the name of the server that has the fortress bots and isnt incam?
15:11 <P4> got the pm
15:14 <noob13> Vanhayes: its called something like "crazy tronners fortress USA", in green text i think
15:14 <noob13> Vanhayes: but i just had a look and it doesn't seem to be up
15:14 <noob13> ct|kyle: ping
15:15 <Vanhayes> ah ok, i was thinking it was that but all i could find was ct crazy fort us
15:15 <Vanhayes> and there was someone there so i couldnt try it with the bots
15:20 <noob13> Vanhayes: wanna go for original arcade? :)
15:21 <Vanhayes> maybe in a bit, playing sumo atm
15:21 <noob13> ok
15:22 <Vanhayes> noob13, ok maych is over, wanna go?
15:23 <Vanhayes> .si arcade
15:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: Flynn\'s Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan Nano: Players (0/8):
15:23 <Vanhayes> hmm it isnt showing up for me
15:26 <noob13> .sd original
15:26 <tronner> noob13: Adventures of TRON >> Original Arcade <<: Players (1/4): Vanhayes
15:26 <Vanhayes> heh i found it
15:40 <Vanhayes> .si fort
15:40 <tronner> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (13/14): -||BS|Theroze, .pRu|Word, aok yoshy (aok\\_yoshy@ct/public), BS|House, CamaroSS, Depor, Hi Guy!!!!!, Jip (Jip@forums), killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), Micky, Player 1, Sl33py (Sl33py@ct/public), TBoSs (spain)
15:40 <Vanhayes> .as
15:40 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 16 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), WILDCAT (8/8), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (6/8), |FA| Devils Rings! (5/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (5/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (4/12), [] Cheers! reloaded [] (4/12), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), Adventures of TRON >> Original Arcade << (2/4), Wild West  =High (1 more message)
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19:02 <Vanhayes> .as
19:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 60 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), WILDCAT (8/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (8/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (8/10), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (7/8), |FA| Devils Rings! (6/16), -=ets)) ~'FightClan' (6/8), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), (1 more message)19:02 <Vanhayes> ,more
19:02 <Vanhayes> .more
19:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: `|pNd+Loose (5/5), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (2/12), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (2/10), Crazy Tronners Open FUN (2/16), hotshot's death pen......of DOOM! >:D (2/16), Fortress Onslaught (2/12), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (2/10), boneyard (1/16), ~Wild Night~DF~ (1/10), Adventures of TRON >> Original Arcade << (1/4), *** SpleafNet Test Zone *** (1/16), :) Happy!! :) (1/16)
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19:04 <sinewav> Vanhayes: they are in the moviepack on the forums
19:05 <Vanhayes> ah ok ill check it out then
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19:29 <Vanhayes> .si ons
19:29 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (8/12): .pRu|Gaspard, alf (alf@ct/public), BuDDha Ant, ctt_Xyron, Jip (Jip@forums), pwnage, stax (stax@forums), Vanhayes
19:30 <Vanhayes> .ping
19:30 <tronner> pong
19:40 <madmax> .as
19:40 <madmax> #as
19:41 <tronner> madmax: This data is 26 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (14/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (8/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), WILDCAT (7/8), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), ~Wild Night~DF~ (5/10), -=ets)) ~'FightClan' (4/8), `|pNd+Loose (3/4), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (3/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (2/16), (1 more message)
19:41 <armabot> madmax: This data is 38 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (14/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (8/8), WILDCAT (8/8), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), ~Wild Night~DF~ (6/10), `|pNd+Loose (4/4), -=ets)) ~'FightClan' (4/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (3/8), Wild West  =High (1 more message)
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19:44 <AshitakA> .ping
19:44 <tronner> pong
19:46 <AshitakA> .tea
19:46 <tronner> AshitakA: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:50 <Vanhayes> .ping
19:50 <tronner> pong
19:51 <AshitakA> .tea
19:51 <tronner> AshitakA: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:53 <AshitakA> .tea
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19:53 <tronner> AshitakA: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): AshitakA
19:53 <\u03b5> 2 spots left for TST
19:54 <AshitakA>  two spots for some noobs ;)
19:54 <\u03b5> just like you! Sign with your teammate at http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/sign-up/
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20:25 <AshitakA>  if i would have one i would try
20:26 <AshitakA>  same like ladle, no team no game
20:38 <ct|kyle> AshitakA: no this one is no partner in crime no game
20:48 <AshitakA>  aha, new modus
20:48 <AshitakA>  anywayl no mate no game
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22:31 <Vanhayes> argh connection is getting wonky
22:31 <Vanhayes> .night
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22:31 <tronner> Good night Vanhayes!
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23:05 <Vanhayes> #finc -40
23:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: -40.0
23:06 <Vanhayes> #finc -10
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: -23.3333333333
23:06 <Vanhayes> #finc -15
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: -26.1111111111
23:11 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
23:11 <armabot> ct|kyle: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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23:12 <Vanhayes> weather plug in isnt working for either bot
23:12 <ct|kyle> nope
23:12 <ct|kyle> I wonder if supybot has updated it
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23:13 <Vanhayes> hasnt worked in a while i dont think
23:13 <ct|kyle> not since middle of subber
23:13 <ct|kyle> summer*
23:14 <Vanhayes> ]weather saint john
23:14 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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23:22 <ct|kyle> .google weather fort wayne
23:22 <tronner> ct|kyle: Home | WANE.com | Fort Wayne, Indiana News, Weather Sports with ...: <http://www.wane.com/>; Fort Wayne, Indiana (46801) Conditions & Forecast : Weather ...: <http://www.wunderground.com/US/IN/Fort_Wayne.html>; 7-Day Forecast for Latitude 41.08°N and Longitude 85.11°W (Elev ...: <http://forecast.weather.gov/zipcity.php?inputstring=Fort%20Wayne,%20IN>
23:22 <Vanhayes> 1 rubber fort in tx us if any one is interested
23:23 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r696 adding setting LEGACY_LADDERLOG_COMMAND to makethe ladderlog...
23:23 <ct|kyle> .sg fort
23:23 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (13/14): , +Zo|o+, -~=|ANTHRAX|=~-, BlindMan (BlindMan@ct/public), BuBBle, Burning Tires, helel, Jazz^^, mWDoc=-, Nelhybel (Nelhybel@ct/public), pZ.Warste!ner, STAPLES, |€§wi$$.h4ck3, |lulejko|, .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: (9/32): , .×] Hoax, 2020, AshitakA, ct|Puuquie, freako, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Rampage, Richie, Zombie Jesus
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23:58 <K-Yo> .help sg
23:59 <tronner> K-Yo: (sg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "reply [sc [fetch [concat http://78.46.226.238:7899/grid/servergrep.php?name= [urlquote $*]]]]".
23:59 <ct|kyle> server grep
23:59 <K-Yo> ok
23:59 <K-Yo> =)
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00:34 <Vanhayes> .cfg hole
00:34 <tronner> Vanhayes: Sorry, no matches :S
00:34 <Vanhayes> #cfg hole
00:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: Sorry, no matches :S
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00:38 <Vanhayes> .cfg score
00:38 <tronner> Vanhayes: KEYBOARD 9 PLAYER_BIND SCORE 0 : || LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score (default: 100) || SCORE_DIE: Amount of points you get for dying (default: -2) || SCORE_KILL: Amount of points you get for killing someone (default: 3) || SCORE_SUICIDE: Amount of points you get for stupidly dying (default: -4) || SCORE_WIN: Amount of points you get for winning a round (default: (1 more message)
00:38 <Vanhayes> .more
00:38 <tronner> Vanhayes: 10) || SP_LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score in single player mode (default: 100000) || SP_SCORE_WIN: What you get for winning a round in single player mode (default: 10)
00:54 <madmax> #cfg2 hole
00:54 <armabot> madmax: SCORE_HOLE: What you get for making a hole for your teammates (Default: 0)
01:02 <sinewav> 1 rubber fort = awesome. as I thought it would be.
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18:06 <noob13> hey sinewav, did you change cycle_delay or somesuch since yesterday?
18:06 <noob13> (on the orig. arcade server, that is)
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19:28 <sinewav> noob13: yeah, we made that change.
19:28 <sinewav> sorry, we're trying to prevent people from abusing the brake and rubber.
19:47 <noob13> sinewav: understandable, though i did die a few times on a quick left-right.. like it didnt recognise me second turn at all
19:47 <noob13> maybe it can be tweaked a bit? not sure...
19:49 <noob13> core bumps ftw
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04:30 <ct|kyle> Why is admin Silece ineffective to /team chat?
04:37 <sinewav> ct|kyle: is it so spectators can still talk in team?
04:38 <sinewav> like, during an event?
04:48 <ct|kyle> spectators are not silanced usually
04:49 <ct|kyle> sinewav: if I want to Admin silence someone I don't want them to spam the team they are on with messages
04:51 <sinewav> yes, that would be best.
04:52 <ct|kyle> I guess it is time for me to learn some more tron code in ePlayer
04:52 <sinewav> yeah slacker
04:54 <ct|kyle> should be able to check if they are a spectator or not
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11:24 <noob13> .as
11:24 <tronner> noob13: This data is 59 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (4/12), WILDCAT (3/8), |JacKZenTH| XMaS HigH RuBBeR (3/8), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (1/10), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Sumo (US) [Ã. (1/32), The Tavern (1/16), The YELLOW Submarine (1/12)
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15:51 <noob13> .as
15:51 <tronner> noob13: This data is 25 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (8/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), Norms Home - Classic Fun (4/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (4/32), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), .:Prutopolis:. .:Loose DF:. (3/16), The Tavern (3/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2/8), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (1/10)
15:52 <noob13> .sd fort
15:52 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (5/14): .n3rDouZ#__x (.n3rDouZ#__x@ct/public), Jack Of Noobs, lag, Odio17, Szym
16:02 <ct|kyle> .sg fort
16:02 <tronner> ct|kyle: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: (4/32): , .pRu|AbsYntH, eckzº, Jip (Jip@forums), noob13 (noob13@forums), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (4/14): , Jack Of Noobs, lag (lag@ct/public), Slayer, Szym
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16:45 <ChrisGW> hi ?
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18:19 <zmanuel> Aww, what, no bans? guru3 is way too soft.
18:19 <zmanuel> It'll be the doom of us all, I say! :)
18:20 <guru3> im trying not to turn myself into that which we look down upon
18:20 <guru3> freedom of speech for all!
18:20 <guru3> no arbitrary bans!
18:20 <guru3> but god help them if they piss me off
18:20 <zmanuel> Who said arbitrary?
18:21 <guru3> well it's not
18:21 <guru3> but i'm not quite prepared to go that far yet
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18:22 <zmanuel> I should probably have posted in the dev only section that you, playing good cop, should turn them into time limited bans.
18:22 <guru3> in all honesty it didn't seem as bad this time
18:22 <guru3> so i have some hopes of them maturing
18:22 <zmanuel> Yeah, but the accumulation gets annoying.
18:22 <guru3> if something like this happens
18:22 <zmanuel> Plus, ID and VzL are obviously out to destroy each other. Let them, but not on our forums.
18:23 <guru3> just send me a msg on irc
18:23 <akira_arma> plus?
18:23 <zmanuel> Not the clan/team :)
18:23 <akira_arma> oh
18:24 <zmanuel> Reminds me, we need to create clans comma, "and", "versus", "winner" for maximum confusion.
18:24 <guru3> i'd say that this is the last shot
18:24 <zmanuel> Well, you're the boss.
18:24 <guru3> a bad one lately :/
18:25 <guru3> getting way too sucked into doing university work and reading books
18:25 <zmanuel> No worries, we understand.
18:25 <akira_arma> entertaining books?
18:25 <guru3> quite
18:25 <akira_arma> what is bad about that?
18:25 <guru3> it means i forget to check the forums
18:26 <guru3> so drama threads get started, out of control, and finish before i even notice
18:26 <guru3> so prod me when they're happening! (same for spam)
18:26 <akira_arma> those drama threads have one good effect: I know who the idiots are
18:26 <guru3> i'm starting to miss the good old days when all we had were people like zapple
18:27 <akira_arma> yea and tank was playing on tigers classic ;)
18:27 <zmanuel> Yeah, individual trolls are much more entertaining than clan tag team trolling.
18:27 <akira_arma> indeed
18:28 <guru3> i would play more a) if i was any good at fortress and b) hadn't hit was essentially the peak of my skill curve in regular tron
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19:01 <noob13> can i ask why there's only one forum admin? i mean, couldn't someone like z-man be given the right to lock/delete topics?
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19:08 <AshitakA> noob13 i think its possible
19:09 <AshitakA>  maybe someone has already
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19:41 <sinewav> Flex:
19:44 <sinewav> Flex: did we decide a server for our match soon? we don't have a preference.
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20:56 <akira_arma> .as
20:56 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 25 seconds old; Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU] (12/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), Fortress Onslaught (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (8/8), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), -=VcL.Clan Dog Fight (8/16), ID -=}< OPEN SuMo (6/12), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (6/10), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), The Tavern (5/16), (2 more messages)
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18:26 <IHaveAProblem> Hello
18:26 <IHaveAProblem> I have a problem as my nick says
18:26 <IHaveAProblem> when i'm joining the game my screen is mixing
18:27 <IHaveAProblem> the walls are mixing with floor and i can't see anything
18:27 <IHaveAProblem> but when i press Esc for menu everything is bac to normal
18:27 <IHaveAProblem> but only in menu
18:28 <IHaveAProblem> when im pressing resume is mixing agin
18:28 <IHaveAProblem> what should i do ?
18:32 <IHaveAProblem> nvm problem sloved
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18:41 <dlh> #monologue
18:41 <armabot> dlh: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
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20:44 <akira_arma> .as
20:44 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 52 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), -=VcL.Clan Sumo (8/14), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), .dBd|Wonderland Fortress (5/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), SPACEZONE III (4/15), The Tavern (4/16), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous (1 more message)
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21:08 <noob13> .si fortress
21:08 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (9/14): .pRu|NRJ², alf (alf@ct/public), aok yoshy (aok\\_yoshy@ct/public), godisamyth, goofyshop, iþer_§, iceray, Potato Chef, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
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00:33 <\u03b5> not gonna trash stuff further down, but aah, it feels so good to troll an asshole
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01:39 <Flex> \u03b5 what does troll fail have anything to the member list of SP?
01:40 <Flex> who are you calling an asshole?
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02:32 <\u00b5> lol honestly.. rocket science? nay
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02:51 <Lucifer> #math calc 51/12
02:51 <armabot> Lucifer: 4.25
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03:55 <luke-jr_> so are we going to revive the resource repository any time?
03:55 <luke-jr_> it's been months now since it was effectively deleted
04:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: I'm considering updating all of CT's maps to a new ct user, is it possible to create that?
04:03 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: while the repository technically doesn't exist, no.
04:03 <luke-jr_> ordinarily, clans could have accounts, yes
04:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: but you can still upload them right?
04:05 <luke-jr_> nope
04:05 <luke-jr_> there's nowhere to upload them to
04:05 <luke-jr_> the server literally does not exist
04:05 <ct|kyle> oh
04:05 <luke-jr_> well I mean, technically, the old one is still in my garage waiting for someone to wipe it or something
04:06 <luke-jr_> but it hasn't been on for months and won't be back
04:06 <sinewav> I gave up on the repro. I host my own now.
04:06 <luke-jr_> this is a good way to splinter the community :p
04:07 <luke-jr_> instead of helping fix the problem, just fork it
04:07 <luke-jr_> <.<
04:07 <ct|kyle> I wish arma could take md5's of maps on client side and compare them to the server one
04:07 <sinewav> I agree
04:07 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: the filepath is a "MD5"
04:08 <luke-jr_> filepath was originally going to be a literal MD5, but we decided unique names would be easier to deal with
04:08 <ct|kyle> who's to say someone did not tweak the xml
04:09 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: that is indeed a problem :(
04:09 <luke-jr_> but using MD5s would also have problems
04:09 <luke-jr_> :/
04:10 <ct|kyle> also, I need to verify it, but trunk always crashes when it needs to download a new map
04:10 <luke-jr_> no clue
04:10 <ct|kyle> sinewav: any new maps in your servers?
04:13 <ct|kyle> actually it triggers map load failure and terminates server if you don't have it instead of waiting for download
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04:22 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yeah, just the "arcade" one. It has a new map and I wound up hosting it on my website.
04:22 <ct|kyle> wb sinewav
04:22 <sinewav> client crash
04:22 <ct|kyle> no, just map load failure
04:22 <ct|kyle> and terminates server
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04:23 <sinewav> wait what? I tried to say my IM client crashed. I don't know what you were talking about before.
04:24 <luke-jr_> lol
04:24 <ct|kyle> oh, when I don't have a map on arma, tron calls map loaf failure before it attempts to download it.
04:26 <sinewav> mmm maploaf....
04:28 <ct|kyle> load :P
04:29 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
04:29 <armabot> pong
04:31 <ct|kyle> .fort
04:31 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (9/14): , -=}ID< Robo, Armillaria, Discosuperstar, KOOL-AID MAN, Lost, Nelhybel (Nelhybel@ct/public), noobly[mho]noob, Poig, ^&%&^, Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (3/32): , .tHump, fingerbib (fingerbib@forums), Pr³
04:31 <ct|kyle> .ladle
04:31 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: o hai
04:32 <ct|kyle> .alias add ladle sg ladle
04:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
04:33 <Your_mom_arma> hey luke-jr_
04:33 <luke-jr_> .
04:42 <ct|kyle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/499332
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04:53 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: what do you think of my idea? :p
04:53 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: what idea?
04:55  * luke-jr_ too lazy to dig out a forum link
04:56 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: I'll go look
04:56 <ct|kyle> I have not been there for a bit
04:56 <luke-jr_> me either
04:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: might be nice to get some good minds together for once
05:02 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: you know that ct has server side scripting on trunk working
05:03 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: define server side scripting
05:04  * luke-jr_ would certainly list unifying the CT and mainline branches as a goal
05:05 <ct|kyle> built in scripting
05:05 <ct|kyle> of course it still is not complete but it is working, seams to have some memory leaks though
05:07 <luke-jr_> via stdio or bindings for some language?
05:08 <ct|kyle> for python
05:08 <ct|kyle> basically the ruby stuff was scrapped and python was added
05:09 <luke-jr_> why was the ruby scrapped?
05:09  * luke-jr_ personally cares not for Python nor Ruby
05:09 <ct|kyle> did not work
05:10 <luke-jr_> O.o
05:10 <ct|kyle> after that voodoo talked about adding in php
05:11 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/armagetronad-ct that is where it is at
05:11 <ct|kyle> I don't know where to put the scripts and stuff to run it :P
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05:33 <armabot> lpbugs: [499332] new maps always fail to load <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/499332>
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21:27 <akira_arma> .as
21:27 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 41 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (18/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (14/14), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), |FA| Devils Rings! (6/16), WILDCAT (6/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (1 more message)
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00:14 <ct|kyle> .fort
00:14 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (8/14): , Armillaria, beer!!, ct¤$ø1 (sol@ct/jedi), DOo.oOT, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), Red, Retrofishy, roflcopter, Speeders Fortress (EU): (5/32): , .Audio, alf (alf@ct/public), Radian, spling, ~*þsy*~ (Psy@forums), .dBd|Wonderland Fortress: (2/16): , .dBd|Pathetique (Pathetique@forums), Mkay-1
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04:38 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: how much bandwidth does the resource repository use?
05:05 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: no idea, never metered it
05:06 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: the mirror system should mitigate it
05:06 <luke-jr_> if necessary, we could always make the master non-rotated
05:18 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: I probably could host it
05:19 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: so could I
05:19 <luke-jr_> z-man has a project VPS, and I am more than willing to provide one
05:19 <luke-jr_> the problem is actually getting it done :P
05:19 <ct|kyle> ah
05:20 <ct|kyle> GID login system would be nice
05:20 <luke-jr_> I concur.
05:20 <luke-jr_> you want to write it? :p
05:20 <ct|kyle> but I don't like GID for username
05:22 <luke-jr_> ...
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22:52 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 2 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), ID -=}< OPEN SuMo (9/12), ~~~~~~~Br3akfast In H3LL~~~~~~~ (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), WILDCAT (6/8), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (5/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (4/8), (1 more message)
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02:40 <\u03b5> http://twitter.com/ArmagetronAd/status/6983716739 :)
02:41 <\u03b5> RT if you have twitter
02:51 <luke-jr> \u03b5: 12 Noon Central?
02:52 <\u03b5> where do you see that?
02:52 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=2010_Q1_Dev_Meeting
02:54 <\u03b5> that's 45 minutes before ladle starts
02:56 <luke-jr> why is the time GMT instead of UTC? :/
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02:57 <\u03b5> lol :)
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06:29 <Lucifer> <flamebait>
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07:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer: you jerk
07:03 <Lucifer> tht's a flame?
07:04 <luke-jr> <.<
07:04 <luke-jr> when I'm lazy it is
07:04 <luke-jr> ljrbot: insult Lucifer
07:04 <ljrbot> Lucifer sucks.
07:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer: Noon is afternoon? :p
07:05 <Lucifer> the class runs from 12:30 to about 3
07:06 <luke-jr> hm
07:06 <luke-jr> maybe we should reschedule then?
07:08 <Lucifer> hmmm, Roger Ebert is an asshat
07:08 <Lucifer> you shouldn't reschedule on my account, I probably don't have anything worthwhile to contribute right now anyway
07:08 <Lucifer> and am certainly not in a position to take action on anything that's decided
07:08 <Lucifer> if I'm needed for a decision, you can reference the transcripts :)
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07:14 <Lucifer> but Roger Ebert is an idiot
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07:15 <teen> Hello there
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22:41 <TaZ> ct|kyle
22:41 <TaZ> can you check out this please http://crazy-tronners.com/viewtopic.php?p=41505#41505
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01:28 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r768 Merge from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r945 After fetching a resource, return the correct filepath. Fixe...
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01:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9287 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/resource/tResourceManager.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: After fetching a resource, return the correct filepath. Fixes bug #499332.
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02:19 <ct|kyle> thanks dlh
02:20 <dlh> It was bothering me too :)
02:21 <ct|kyle> it only started bothering me when I was updating maps on CTWF to test and then I'd get dissconected
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03:29 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1152 Do not extract whitespace from authentication params using s...
03:46 <dlh> I'm on a roll for 1 line bug fixes...
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04:24 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9289 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tXmlParser.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Don't crash if resource validation fails. Fixes bug #402870.
04:28 <ct|kyle> dlh: 403261  has actually been fixed, it was the points 0,0 error
04:29 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r946 Don't crash if resource validation fails. Fixes bug #402870....
04:33 <ct|kyle> dlh: actually I guess they still don't spin
04:52 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: O.o
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05:08 <luke-jr> armabot: weather 68134
05:09 <armabot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
05:09 <luke-jr> fail
05:09 <luke-jr> -.-
05:09 <luke-jr> ljrbot: weather 68134
05:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
05:09 <luke-jr> wtf
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08:30 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r769 Merge from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r948 Use displayed screen name for team, and don't show boring te... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r947 In the Team menu show only one "join spectators" menu entry,...
09:09 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9290 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gTeam.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: In the Team menu show only one "join spectators" menu entry, and also fix the action to put you in spectator mode.
09:11 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9291 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Use displayed screen name for team, and don't show boring team name update messages.
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