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Log from 2009-06-28:
--- Day changed Sun Jun 28 2009
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00:24 <Flex> G5, hope that was fine using the server like that.. when we joined it was empty, and everyone that joined came for a "special" match
00:25 <Flex> K-Yo offered a server, but i said it was fine, as we weren't going to kick or control the server.
00:26 <Flex> only when you came, we assumed to make it more organised, ect.
00:27 <G5> Flex: Sure. That's what servers are for ...
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00:51 <Vanhayes> #as
00:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 27 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (16/32), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (9/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), ~~M0$t Wànt3d~~ (4/16), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  - (1 more message)
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00:59 <Lucifer> baaaaaaaaah!
01:10 <madmax> whaaaaaaaaaa?
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01:16 <K-Yo> baaaaaaaaaaah
01:18 <PinkTomato> naaaaaaaaaaah!
01:21 <Lucifer> lalalaaaa lililiiiiii
01:21 <Lucifer> !
01:22 <PinkTomato> lu lu lu
01:25 <solete> eeeeeeehhhhhhhhh?
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01:26 <Vanhayes> did everyone just have a stroke or something?
01:26 <sinewav> :o
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01:30 <Lucifer> something
01:31  * Lucifer needs to juggle some more, heh
01:32  * sinewav will now go to the gym.
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01:36 <madmax> did you quite smoking yet Lucifer?
01:37 <epsy> I quite quietly quit smoking
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01:45 <Luke-Jr> ]admin ignore add *!*@@ip-167.net-89-3-104.rev.numericable.fr
01:46 <Luke-Jr> ]admin ignore add *!*@ip-167.net-89-3-104.rev.numericable.fr
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03:49 <Flex> what's so good about CentOS
03:50 <epsy> it's because ct|kyle uses it
03:50 <Flex> any good?
03:51 <ct|kyle> epsy: no I don't
03:52 <ct|kyle> Flex: it's crap
03:52 <Flex> CentOS or Fedora?
03:52 <epsy> hah
03:52 <ct|kyle> heh
03:52 <Flex> (better one?)
03:52 <ct|kyle> they are the same
03:52 <ct|kyle> essentually
03:53 <ct|kyle> I did just try fedora when 11 came out
03:53 <ct|kyle> I have to keep up with the products from the company I invest in :P
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04:07 <ct|kyle> Flex: what do you want it for?
04:07 <Flex> just wondering.. read someone it was good
04:07 <Flex> is it better than debian?
04:08 <Flex> strickly hosting
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04:26 <Sticky__> Flex: ill pay you £100 if you can tell a diff between them from the command line
04:26 <ct|kyle> heh
04:27 <ct|kyle> I missed all of Flex's replies
04:27 <Luke-Jr> ……..
04:27 <Luke-Jr> Sticky__: make me the offer!
04:27 <Flex> haha
04:27 <Sticky__> nope
04:27 <Sticky__> this challenge is for mear linux mortals...ie not you
04:28 <Flex> like you would pay
04:28 <ct|kyle> how long does the challenge last for?
04:28 <Sticky__> tbf you will notice the differance when it comes to package installation. outside that not really
04:29 <Flex> but i'm talking about performance
04:29 <Sticky__> naa you wont notice that at all
04:30 <ct|kyle> about the same, and debian is better than those at least cent and fedora is a bigger pig than cent
04:32 <Sticky__> if your worried about performance go for gentoo...cos hours of crying and 100 hours of down time a week while it compiles itself is so worth it for a 1% speed boost
04:33 <ct|kyle> that reminds me I need to reinstall gentoo
04:33  * Sticky__ hands ct|kyle some tisues
04:34 <ct|kyle> no need, just need a jar of cookies for emerge kde-base
04:34 <ct|kyle> kde-meta*
04:34 <Flex> how's it going Sticky__?
04:35 <Flex> why aren't you out!
04:35 <Sticky__> not bad
04:35 <ct|kyle> that only takes about 3 hours I think noe
04:35 <Sticky__> im out and proud
04:35 <ct|kyle> maybe 4
04:35 <Flex> i'd go for debian anyway
04:36 <Sticky__> Flex: actualy temporaraly back at parents before moving to london
04:36 <Flex> moving to london? i thought you were here already
04:37 <Sticky__> naa
04:37 <Sticky__> just a frequent visitor
04:37 <Flex> i see
04:39 <ct|kyle> Sticky__: if you still have that extra box of tissues send them to sine_awave
04:39 <Sticky__> whats he doing?
04:40 <Luke-Jr> Sticky__: FUD
04:40 <Luke-Jr> there is no downtime for Gentoo
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04:41 <sinewav> ct|kyle: LOL!
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04:41 <ct|kyle> Sticky__: getting beat
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05:04 <dubStep> Flex: !
05:04 <Flex> yeah?
05:05 <dubStep> hi
05:05 <dubStep> ^^
05:05 <Flex> hello
05:05 <Flex> switch the virgin.. bt sucks
05:06 <dubStep> meh
05:06 <Flex> just check out the pricing.. much better
05:07 <dubStep> yea but my mom is like blah about it
05:07 <dubStep> meh il think about it
05:07 <dubStep> its just a game lol
05:08 <Flex> i'm not talking about just armagetron.. i'm talking about your general internet.. it's cheaper and better
05:09 <dubStep> hmm k
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05:35 <dlh> I wonder if it is possible for launchpad to be any slower than it is now.
05:49 <ct|kyle> probably
05:56 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r765 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r916 When showing completion possibilities use the correct result...
06:24 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9234 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/ui/uMenu.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: When showing completion possibilities use the correct result, which could be the simplified version. Fixes bug #373907.
06:26 <Flex> ct|kyle
06:26 <Flex> i time out trying to join.. log doesn't say anything apart from killing the user.. any ideas?
06:28 <ct|kyle> Flex: on what?
06:28 <Flex> on what, what
06:28 <Flex> arma server
06:29 <Flex> [0] Waiting for real players (only spectators online)...
06:29 <Flex> [0] User 2 timed out.
06:29 <Flex> [2] Killing user 2, ping 1.25.
06:29 <ct|kyle> what server
06:30 <Flex> mine
06:33 <ct|kyle> not sure
06:33 <Lucifer> it appears I've been invited to juggle/fire dance to an event tomorrow
06:35 <Luke-Jr> yandere in #anime
06:35 <Lucifer> Flex: maybe it's your router
06:35 <Lucifer> did you try connecting to localhost?  (Is it running on the same machine as your client?)
06:35 <Flex> no, different machine
06:35 <Flex> sticky can't connect either, same issue
06:37 <ct|kyle> servers net is extreamly slow?
06:38 <Lucifer> disable any running firewalls yet?
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06:38 <Lucifer> I had weird problems with ipmasq
06:38 <Luke-Jr> …
06:39 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: ipmasq was Linux 2.2
06:39 <Lucifer> Luke-Jr: then why is it shipped with ubuntu?
06:39 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: it's not...
06:39 <Luke-Jr> wait, I'm thinking ipchains
06:39  * Lucifer wasn't just invited to go, was invited to put out a tip jar and stuff :)
06:39 <Luke-Jr> wtf is 'ipmasq'?
06:39 <Lucifer> firewall/router thingee
06:39 <Lucifer> I installed it trying to setup my computer as a router
06:40 <Luke-Jr> that's iptables
06:40 <Lucifer> it's why my desktop stopped working
06:40 <Lucifer> no, there's another one
06:40 <Lucifer> wait, maybe its dnsmasq
06:40 <Lucifer> no, it's ipmasq
06:41 <Lucifer> wow, that's the fastest anybody's ever clicked something around one of my status updates
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06:48 <dubStep> oi
07:08 <sinewav> oi
07:12 <Lucifer> maybe one of you guys has better google skills than I do
07:12 <Lucifer> I'm trying to find a pioneer museum on volente rd, might be either in austin tx or cedar park tx
07:14 <dubStep> only one i see is in Fredericksburg
07:21 <Flex> Ahhhhh
07:21 <Flex> why doesn't this work :(
07:22 <Flex> where is server_info.cfg
07:23 <Flex> is there a readme for isntalling arma on debian?
07:24 <Luke-Jr> "aptitude install armagetronad"
07:24 <Flex> already got it installed
07:24 <Flex> running, too..
07:25 <Flex> i think
07:25 <Flex> and i'm talking about a server, not client
07:25 <Flex> Luke-Jr
07:25 <Luke-Jr> "aptitude install armagetronad-dedicated"
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07:29 <Flex> k, now Luke-Jr?
07:39 <Luke-Jr> now it's installed
07:41 <Flex> yeah, i time out trying to join.
07:41 <Flex> checked the port, it works fine
07:53 <dlh> Flex: did you use the init.d script to start it? Or are you just running armagetronad-dedicated to test?
07:53 <Flex> yeah, i used that
07:54 <dlh> Make sure you really are connecting the to right port... look for a line like this in the logs "Bound socket to *.*.*.*:4534", where 4534 is the right port
07:54 <Flex> yup, i checked that
07:54 <Flex> correct port
07:54 <dlh> anything else in the log file?
07:54 <Flex> no nothing weird.. just shows user joining, then it kills user
07:55 <Flex> while client side is a simple time out
07:55 <dlh> iptables -L
07:55 <dlh> Maybe your firewall is blocking it
07:56 <Flex> i was going to start again, but let me check that
07:58 <dlh> Flex: paste the logs for when a user tries to join
08:00 <Flex> k, give me a sec, getting it
08:01 <Flex> dlh
08:01 <Flex> this is what i was getting
08:01 <Flex> http://pastebin.com/d455ee1b1
08:02 <dlh> What does iptables -L look like?
08:03 <Flex> (policy ACCEPT)
08:03 <Flex> on 3 of them
08:06 <Flex> urm dlh, apart from "ARMAGETRONAD_SERVER_START=1"
08:06 <Flex> do i have to change anything else?
08:10 <Lucifer> grrr, why can't I find this website I was just looking at on another computer?
08:10 <Flex> because my server don't work!!
08:17 <Lucifer> http://www.pioneerfarms.org/location/  <-- this is what I was looking at earlier, but that's not in the location I was told it should be in
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10:07 <Flex> how was your sleep?
10:07 <akira_arma> ......
10:08 <Flex> waaat!
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18:06 <armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r918 Removed debug output.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r917 Don't show splash on OS X after handling a URL event
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18:30 <Flex> dlh, g5, K-Yo, Lackadaisical, madmax, noob13, sinewav, Vanhayes
18:30 <Flex> come test a server!
18:30 <Lackadaisical> where?
18:30 <madmax> what?
18:30 <Flex> flex's test server: fortress
18:31 <Lackadaisical> is it special?
18:31 <Flex> yes!
18:31 <Flex> 16vs16 as the test!
18:31 <PinkTomato> #si flex
18:31 <armabot> PinkTomato: Flex's Test Server: Fortress: Players (7/32): .×] Durka (DDMJ@forums), .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), Flex (Flex@forums), footo9000, Player 1, preStige, ~*PsYkO*~
18:33 <dlh> #sd -v flex
18:33 <armabot> dlh: Flex's Test Server: Fortress ( running 0.2.8_alpha20090628 unix dedicated, url: http://flex.armagetron.co.uk, Description: ““, Players (10/32): .x]D¡mb, .×] Durka (DDMJ@forums), .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), dubStep (dubStep@ct), enigmA, Flex (Flex@forums), Player 1, preStige, user, ~*PsYkO*~
18:34 <Flex> commmeee
18:34 <Flex> you useless people
18:35 <madmax> it's normal fort but 16vs16
18:35 <madmax> ?
18:35 <Flex> pretty much
18:36 <PinkTomato> #si cafe
18:36 <armabot> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): -=VcL.Student, -»|olive, -»|þsy, .×] Hoax, GNU/Linux, NayP, peed, °Bs°| Theroze, °ß$°|MµtH
18:36 <PinkTomato> cafe is 32 as well.
18:36 <madmax> slots, not players
18:37 <madmax> max is 9vs9
18:37 <PinkTomato> Oh
18:37 <Flex> madmax join?
18:38 <madmax> I'm sort of busy, if you had said ramps and flying circles...
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18:38 <Flex> oh.. i forgot there's like.. urm these zones
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18:38 <madmax> :-O
18:42 <PinkTomato> #si Flex -d
18:42 <armabot> PinkTomato: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flex -d” at the moment, sorry.
18:42 <PinkTomato> #sd Flex -d
18:42 <armabot> PinkTomato: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flex -d” at the moment, sorry.
18:42 <PinkTomato> #sd Flex
18:42 <armabot> PinkTomato: Flex's Test Server: Fortress: Players (14/32): -=VçL.ViRµS, .x]D¡mb, .×] Durka (DDMJ@forums), .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), dubStep (dubStep@ct), Flex (Flex@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), gArIsImO, Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums), Player 1, preStige, user, ~*Delta*~, ~*PsYkO*~ (~*PsYkO*~@forums)
18:43 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
18:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (6/14): 123456789012345, chochin, i have a f cold, lag (lag@ct), Ptboi, St_Rain (St_Rain@ct)
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19:19 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9235 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Don't show splash on OS X after handling a URL event
19:20 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9236 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gArmagetron.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Removed debug output.
19:30 <Vanhayes> #si test
19:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: tronners->testing: Players (0/10):
19:30 <Vanhayes> #as
19:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 2 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (8/20), WILDCAT (7/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), Fortress (16 vs 16) (7/32), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Advanced!= (6/12), Afrothunder's High Rubber (6/10), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), Wild West  =Capture The (2 more messages)
19:31 <Vanhayes> any chance you can get lead poisoning from scraping paint?
19:31 <Vanhayes> scraping paint off a veranda built in 1870s*
19:34 <Flex> :o
19:34 <Flex> wear masks for shit that's old..
19:34 <Flex> don't mess around, it's not funny
19:39 <Vanhayes> well i was told it was only 20 years old, but that was the back part, where i wasnt scraping
19:39 <Vanhayes> amazing house, they are selling it for 500 000 plus a tonne of land
19:40 <Vanhayes> it was built before there was even a real town here
19:42 <Vanhayes> what are the symptoms of lead poisoning?
19:43 <Vanhayes> cause i was really tired after i did it and lept for like 16 hours and am still tired
19:43 <Vanhayes> slept*
19:43 <Flex> really small particles, enough to breathe and get stuck in your lungs causing permanent respiratory problems.. forgot completely..
19:44 <Flex> that's what i'm talking about, regarding airborn particles.. not sure about the other
19:45 <Flex> anyway, sometimes when you sleep for that long, you still feel tired
19:46 <Vanhayes> well ya i did it for a few days last week too
19:46 <Flex> didn't your work provide you masks and proper equipment..
19:46 <Vanhayes> felt tired afterward then too, but i did alot more yesterday, pressure washed it and alot more came off
19:47 <Vanhayes> im sort of working for myself atm
19:47 <Flex> so get that shit!
19:47 <Vanhayes> doing oddjobs for cash
19:47 <Vanhayes> well i have all of it but never thought to use since i was told it was less then 20 yo
19:49 <Lucifer> heh, I'm going to go busking again
19:49 <Flex> if you feel you have lead poisoning.. see a doctor. don't guess..
19:50 <Vanhayes> meh im just tired dont feel too sick
19:50 <Vanhayes> need to go to a BBQ soon anyways, lead poisoning can wait
19:50 <Flex> long term damage is what the issue is here, mostly.. i think
19:51 <Vanhayes> heh, i even had a heavy duty industrial resperator here from when I was insulating
19:51 <Vanhayes> well, if they need any more scraping done ill just use that
19:51 <Flex> won't have too much of an effect if you're doing odd jobs
19:52 <Flex> if you're a smoker.. that's more high risk
19:52 <Flex> i think?
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20:47 <madmax> ok... USA winning against Brazil. something's wrong here
20:47 <PinkTomato> o_O
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20:55 <Flex> haha, good stuff
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21:00 <Lackadaisical> :O
21:00 <madmax> 2-0
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21:18 <epsy> sth is wrong
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22:10 <apparition> anyone know w33d's msn?
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23:13 <animuson> how can i access a file elsewhere on the server from a user's home directory? like accessing /etc/data from /home/admin
23:13 <animuson> (im using php)
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23:18 <epsy> fopen("/path/to/file", ...) ?
23:18 <animuson> i tried but it says cannot open file in /var/www
23:18 <animuson> it doesnt leave the directory :(
23:19 <epsy> can you give the full error?
23:19 <epsy> because that's usually the filepath where the error comes from
23:20 <animuson> Warning: fopen(/etc/cron.daily/www) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/animsuon/cron-test.php on line 19
23:21 <PinkTomato> animuson: ...
23:21 <PinkTomato> can't you even spell your name correctly...
23:21 <animuson> lol
23:21 <PinkTomato> sorry, that was rather rude :)
23:21 <animuson> noone ever sees that :P
23:22  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a RedCabbage
23:28 <animuson> nothing?
23:31 <PinkTomato> animuson: ?
23:31 <animuson> tomato :P
23:32 <Luke-Jr> lolol
23:32 <Luke-Jr> animuson: that means the file doesn't exist
23:32 <Luke-Jr> fail
23:33 <animuson> no it means its not looking in /etc/cron.daily
23:33 <Luke-Jr> no, it means you fail
23:33 <animuson> the file exists im looking at it right now
23:34 <PinkTomato> ...
23:34 <PinkTomato> /animsuon/
23:34 <PinkTomato> do you really have a folder called animsuon?
23:34 <epsy> /home/animuson/ :D
23:34 <animuson> yea i mispelled it when i installed apache :P
23:34 <animuson> lol
23:34 <epsy> oh
23:34 <epsy> hahaha
23:34 <epsy> pwnt
23:35 <PinkTomato> animuson: does /etc/cron.daily/www exist?
23:35 <PinkTomato> is www a file?
23:36 <animuson> yea its a file
23:36 <PinkTomato> right.
23:36 <PinkTomato> ]dice
23:36 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
23:36 <PinkTomato> ]dice 1d10
23:36 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: 6
23:36 <PinkTomato> Sorry animuson it was 6 rather than a 7
23:36 <animuson> the problem is its looking for /var/www/animsuon/etc/cron.daily instead of /etc/cron.daily
23:37 <PinkTomato> animuson: /etc/cron.daily/www
23:37 <PinkTomato> it can't open that file
23:37 <PinkTomato> cd /etc/cron.daily
23:37 <PinkTomato> ls -l
23:37 <PinkTomato> copy and paste the www line
23:38 <animuson> why?
23:38 <PinkTomato> because I think I know the problem, and I don't want to sound like an idiot if I'm wrong
23:38 <PinkTomato> so I can check before I say
23:39 <animuson> so what am i looking for?
23:39 <PinkTomato> cd /etc/cron.daily in a terminal
23:39 <PinkTomato> ls -l www
23:39 <PinkTomato> then paste the result of the www file
23:40 <animuson> -rw-r--r-- 1 admin root 5 Jun 29 01:39 www
23:40 <PinkTomato> OK.
23:40 <PinkTomato> and apache runs as what user?
23:40 <animuson> admin
23:40 <PinkTomato> hopefully not admin.
23:41 <PinkTomato> usually www-data
23:41 <PinkTomato> (for ubuntu)
23:41 <animuson> that user does not exist on my server :P
23:41 <PinkTomato> are you sure?
23:41 <animuson> i just used admin cause its easier for me to remember
23:41 <Luke-Jr> ……..
23:42 <PinkTomato> to me, I would check the permissions on the www file
23:42 <PinkTomato> wait,
23:42 <PinkTomato> it would still open it, unless you are openning it for writing
23:42 <animuson> no just for reading
23:43 <Luke-Jr> PinkTomato: it said file doesn't exist, not permission denied
23:43 <animuson> yea because its not going to the root before searching for /etc
23:43 <animuson> its starting at /var/www/animsuon and searching for /etc there
23:44 <PinkTomato> Luke-Jr: Hmm, I know, for some reason I remembered getting a file not found for incorrect permission.
23:44 <Luke-Jr> and you would know this how?
23:47 <PinkTomato> Luke-Jr: what if www-data user can't list the cron.daily folder?
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23:54 <PinkTomato> animuson: any luck?
23:54 <animuson> i think i figured it out
23:54 <animuson> apache limits a folder on the web
23:55 <animuson> to its home directory and the location for php
23:55 <animuson> so i just added /etc/cron.daily to the access lsit
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23:56 <PinkTomato> and it works?
23:56 <animuson> it doesnt error out nemore but it also doesnt do nething
23:56 <animuson> so i figure its a php error now
23:56 <animuson> something else

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