Log from 2009-04-16:
--- Day changed Thu Apr 16 2009
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00:07 <PinkTomato> .llog MATCH_WINNER
00:07 <tronner> PinkTomato: MATCH_WINNER: [team]
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00:14 <Vanhayes> .tea
00:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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00:15 <nsh22> luke-jr: can you check the status on the vps?
00:23 <noob13> .tea
00:23 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:24 <noob13> .sd fort
00:24 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (4/14): 808 STATE, Alfa, CDC!@LE3Xo1!BPT, EX-3
00:24 <noob13> .server
00:24 <tronner> noob13: holmes.freenode.net
00:24 <noob13> .serves
00:24 <noob13> .servers
00:24 <tronner> noob13: This data is 53 seconds old; Wild West =Sumo= (9/16), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/10), |FA| Black Tar! (8/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), Afrothunder's High Rubber (7/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (6/16), WILDCAT (5/8), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), Afrothunder's Project Freedom (4/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (1 more message)
00:25 <PinkTomato> .more
00:25 <PinkTomato> (23:34:07) tronner: Error: That's all, there is no more.
00:25 <PinkTomato> lies.
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00:40 <noob13> .more
00:40 <tronner> noob13: (4/14), -=MadZenTH=- Micro High Rubber (4/5), -=Prutopolis=- -=Dog Fight=- (3/17), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (2/10), |FA| Devils Rings! (1/16), World Of Cy (Loose DF touching walls allowed) (Beta) (1/8), {PinkTomato} NonWorkingServer (1/16), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (1/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1/12), - [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ] - . (1/8)
00:41 <noob13> :P
00:41 <noob13> 7 days..
00:43 <PinkTomato> noob13: 7 days :)?
00:44 <Vanhayes> 7 days of what?
00:44 <noob13> that movie with the film and the well and the spooky woman saying "seeveeen daaays.."?
00:45 <epsy> this is a bait for your mum jokes.
00:46 <noob13> what was that movie called again, gah..
00:46 <noob13> whatever.
00:46 <Vanhayes> the ring?
00:46 <noob13> i was actually referring to ubuntu 9.04 being released in 7 days
00:46 <noob13> YES!
00:46 <noob13> thats the one, thanks.
00:47 <noob13> ... i never saw Ring 2 :P
00:47 <Vanhayes> i never saw ring 1
00:47 <noob13> it was hilarious!
00:48 * Vanhayes doesnt care for horror movies
00:48 <Vanhayes> or rather "horror"
00:48 <noob13> they are mildly entertaining at times
00:48 <noob13> why is epsy up so late btw?
00:49 <Vanhayes> crack
00:50 <Vanhayes> wait, isnt it like 1 am for you noob13 ?
00:50 <noob13> 01:50 am at the moment
00:50 <noob13> GMT+3
00:51 <noob13> but i dont got shit to do tomorrow
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00:51 <noob13> plus my rhythm is still kinda screwed
00:52 * Vanhayes has to stay up all night about once a month to reset the rythm
00:53 <noob13> yeah, sounds familiar.. ;P
00:55 <nsh22> espy, where do you live in paris (btw i want to live there so watch out)
00:56 <Vanhayes> the eiffel tower
00:57 <noob13> he's sitting on it.
00:58 <nsh22> i was on that thing, it was awesome
00:58 <noob13> i was there once too..
00:59 <noob13> we were the first people to get in
00:59 <noob13> so we smoked a spliff at about 10 am at the top
00:59 <noob13> after an hour it was packed with tourists
00:59 <Vanhayes> and you didnt want to share with them?
00:59 <nsh22> lol you were there when it opened or some other day?
01:00 <noob13> heh, no we didnt wanna share :P
01:00 <noob13> and we had just arrived in paris with a night train
01:00 <nsh22> noob13: are you french?
01:01 <noob13> nope.
01:01 <noob13> Je suis Finlandais...
01:02 <noob13> hm, no idea if thats correct.
01:02 <nsh22> partly, dunno about filandais tjho
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01:02 <nsh22> luke-jr: !!!!
01:03 <Vanhayes> PLAYOFFS
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01:11 <Vanhayes> >google fight Pittsburgh Philidelphia
01:11 <Vanhayes> .google fight Pittsburgh Philidelphia
01:11 <tronner> Vanhayes: http://digg.com/world_news/WTF_Fight_over_urinating_dog_lured_police_to_Pa_ambush - WTF? Fight over urinating dog lured police to Pa. ambush
01:11 <Vanhayes> ]google fight Pittsburgh Philidelphia
01:11 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "google" is not a valid command.
01:12 <Vanhayes> bah you are all infirior to armabot
01:13 <Vanhayes> meh probably pittsburgh
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01:15 <nsh22> rogers fails
01:16 <Vanhayes_> epic
01:17 <nsh22> epic fail
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01:18 <Vanhayes_> hmm this time last year i was watching the playoffs in a hostel in edmonton with 3 montrealers 2 irishmen and a girl from outside london
01:19 <Vanhayes_> the montrealers were hardest to understand
01:20 <nsh22> obvi
01:22 <Vanhayes_> hmm i need to plan a hosteling trip this summer
01:23 <nsh22> to wherE?
01:23 <Vanhayes_> somewhere down in the states
01:24 -!- Ratchet-- [n=Joshua@99-195-13-23.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #armagetron
01:24 <Vanhayes_> i want to go back to the desert
01:24 * Ratchet-- is back now
01:24 <Ratchet--> i just butraped some guyz on cod4 :o
01:25 <nsh22> vanhayes: use your tax return and go to france :P
01:25 <Ratchet--> The_Master, The player that's been in CTFS the last few days?
01:25 <nsh22> Ratchet--: ew
01:25 <The_Master> Ratchet--: What specifically brings been in CTFS the last few days to mind?
01:27 <nsh22> ratch, i hope you know its a bot
01:27 <PinkTomato> yay!
01:27 <nsh22> LUKE-JR!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:27 <PinkTomato> Anyone have a RINCLUDE for pigsty CTF, CTFS?
01:28 <Vanhayes_> if i wanted to be surrounded by french people id go to Quebec city, alot cheaper
01:28 <luke-jr> WTF U WANT NSH22
01:28 <nsh22> <nsh22> luke-jr: can you check the status on the vps?
01:28 <nsh22> i think its dead
01:29 <Vanhayes_> it is, I killed it
01:29 <Ratchet--> looking at your name....
01:29 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: ?
01:29 <luke-jr> nsh22: what IP again?
01:29 <Ratchet--> i was skimming the names on the right side, and saw you PinkTomato
01:29 <nsh22> ratch, i hope you know who i am
01:29 <PinkTomato> you have ctf settings on a server?
01:29 <Ratchet--> i did, til ivantis crashed it
01:29 <Ratchet--> :
01:29 <PinkTomato> webserver
01:29 <PinkTomato> aww
01:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: ah, 66.216.20.12
01:30 <nsh22> ... -_-
01:30 <luke-jr> what?
01:30 <nsh22> nvm
01:30 <luke-jr> looks fine to me
01:30 <nsh22> but i cant get on it
01:30 <PinkTomato> (00時39分39秒) Ratchet--: i want something really really simple, php has all )(*&)(&)][;][ll[];[
01:31 <PinkTomato> anyone, got a clue what he means?
01:31 <luke-jr> nsh22: why not?
01:31 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you're Japanese?
01:31 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: he wants BASIC
01:31 <nsh22> luke-jr: ok specifically, i cant get n aa-admin (cannot display webpage) and my ftp wont work on it
01:31 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: No, But I have yet to configure the IME to work in english (UK) :)
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01:32 <nsh22> Ratchet--: im neal btw :P
01:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: looks like a problem on your end
01:32 <Ratchet--> i know
01:32 <Vanhayes_> keep blaming luke-jr tho
01:32 <nsh22> another person cant get on it as well...
01:32 <Ratchet--> luke thats my vps
01:32 <Ratchet--> :o
01:33 <Ratchet--> ooh
01:33 <Ratchet--> nm
01:33 <Ratchet--> 12
01:33 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: …
01:33 <Ratchet--> mines 16
01:33 <Ratchet--> rofl didn't notice tha last #
01:33 <luke-jr> nsh22: what's your IP at home?
01:33 <luke-jr> or where u r
01:33 <PinkTomato> so luke-jr sold 15 of them?
01:33 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no, the range starts at 12
01:33 <nsh22> luke-jr: why?
01:33 <PinkTomato> oo, ok :)
01:33 <luke-jr> nsh22: so I can traceroute to you
01:34 <luke-jr> cuz everythign is working from here
01:34 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: and Lucifer isn't paying atm
01:34 <nsh22> i dont even know my own ip so....
01:34 <luke-jr> so I think it's more like 4 or 5
01:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: http://whatismyip.com
01:34 <Vanhayes_> nsh22, its 32
01:34 <Ratchet--> what are good easy programming languages, besides VB, that are able to use a GUI with
01:34 <Ratchet--> :o
01:34 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: you can use Kate/KWrite with any good language
01:35 <nsh22> luke-jr: couldnt you supposedly hack my comp with my ip?
01:35 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: Perl looks creepy, but works well
01:35 <PinkTomato> nsh22: No!
01:35 <luke-jr> nsh22: no
01:35 <luke-jr> nsh22: IPs are public information
01:35 <PinkTomato> and for a start luke-jr could already get it
01:35 <PinkTomato> and I could get yours if you have been on my server :)
01:35 <Ratchet--> ditto
01:35 <nsh22> oh nvm, it works again :P
01:35 <luke-jr> ………
01:36 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: why do you need to GUI?
01:36 <PinkTomato> programming GUI is a pain,
01:36 <PinkTomato> I did swing once..
01:36 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I like Kate
01:36 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: me too :)
01:36 <Vanhayes_> who is kate?
01:36 <noob13> she's hot, for sure.
01:36 <nsh22> i like armaboot, but she ran away
01:36 <Vanhayes_> high priced hooker?
01:37 <Vanhayes_> with a heart of gold of course
01:37 <noob13> Vanhayes_: sounds about right.
01:37 <nsh22> Vanhayes_: kate is lukes wife (jkjkjkjk plz dont kill me)
01:37 <Ratchet--> what good is a program without a visual form
01:37 <Ratchet--> and i dont think i'd like doing it manually
01:37 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: I don't understand what you want
01:37 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: programming is always in text
01:37 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: computing is in text for real users
01:37 <luke-jr> mouse is a design flaw
01:37 <PinkTomato> do you want an IDE with drag and drop
01:38 <PinkTomato> or do you want to program GUI's
01:38 <Ratchet--> i want something where you design it with buttons and toolz, not text
01:38 <PinkTomato> The whole drag and drop IDE is a soley Microsoft thing,
01:38 <PinkTomato> afaik
01:38 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: no such thing exists
01:39 <luke-jr> and probably never will
01:39 <luke-jr> because it is inherently flawed
01:39 <Ratchet--> yes'
01:39 <Ratchet--> like that qt thingy
01:39 <PinkTomato> Microsoft's solution is flawed
01:39 <luke-jr> that's for designing GUIs
01:39 <Ratchet--> and ms's visual thingies
01:39 <luke-jr> not for programming
01:39 <PinkTomato> Those things always produce Absolute sizing,
01:40 <Ratchet--> im confused
01:40 <PinkTomato> so it goes funny when you resize your box
01:40 <PinkTomato> your window
01:40 <Ratchet--> ok
01:40 <Ratchet--> so lets say
01:40 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no
01:40 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ?
01:40 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: Qt Designer works quite well
01:40 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: not tried that, but I know Microsoft fails at it
01:40 <luke-jr> sure
01:40 <Ratchet--> ok lets say i got python
01:41 <luke-jr> but Qt Designer makes you use relative stuff
01:41 <Ratchet--> and use kate, which is just a text editor
01:41 <epsy> Ratchet--, there's this lego thing, but it is pretty expensive
01:41 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: not "just" a text editor
01:41 <Ratchet--> how am i stupposed to edit the looks of the program
01:41 <Ratchet--> when ran
01:41 <epsy> and you're not going to program anything else than a robot with it
01:41 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: programs don't have looks
01:41 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: they have input and output
01:41 <Ratchet--> ..
01:41 <Ratchet--> THE IRC CLIENT WE ARE ON HAS LOOKS
01:41 <Ratchet--> YOU SEE IT
01:41 <Ratchet--> .
01:41 <Ratchet--> IT WAS PROGRAMMED
01:41 <Ratchet--> ARGUMENT OVER
01:42 <Ratchet--> :|
01:42 <Ratchet--> jeez
01:42 <epsy> no it wasn't programmed, it rose up magically
01:42 <epsy> fool
01:42 <luke-jr> design flaw
01:42 <Vanhayes_> i created it with cheese
01:43 <luke-jr> there should be no such thing as an "IRC client"
01:43 <luke-jr> there should be a MUC GUI
01:43 <luke-jr> and an IRC backend
01:43 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: http://www.javabeginner.com/java-swing/java-swing-tutorial
01:43 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: don't promote Swing plz
01:43 <PinkTomato> that's a rubbish site, and I'm not advocating Swing,
01:43 <PinkTomato> or Java.
01:44 <PinkTomato> But it was a good 10 lines of code that can be understood
01:44 <nsh22> btw, is forum auth workng yet?
01:44 <noob13> nsh22: yes.
01:44 <Vanhayes_> yup
01:44 <nsh22> ok :P
01:44 <Ratchet--> with THAT being said
01:44 <noob13> nsh22: you'll have to login to the forums though
01:45 <nsh22> oh ok
01:45 <Ratchet--> i'll ask again, how would it work putting the looks of the program and the text together
01:45 <noob13> nsh22: ... if you haven't yet.
01:45 <Ratchet--> 2 programs?
01:45 <Ratchet--> is there 1 with both?
01:45 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: I'm going to suggest
01:45 <PinkTomato> that you start with command line
01:45 <PinkTomato> first
01:46 * noob13 agrees
01:46 <PinkTomato> It will also get your head in the right direction
01:46 <noob13> Ratchet--: if you're going to use python, look into GTK and try glade2
01:46 <Ratchet--> still gotta decide a language..
01:46 <noob13> thats what i used for my pythin thing
01:47 <Ratchet--> i want an ez one with semi-intelligable
01:47 <Ratchet--> syntax
01:47 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: python's good, forces you to keep clean code
01:47 <Ratchet--> python, i think i was using IDLE, and uhh
01:47 <epsy> IDLE?
01:47 <PinkTomato> Now, for some reason though, Java seems to be the first language of choice at many schools
01:47 <PinkTomato> or at least mine
01:48 <nsh22> PinkTomato: yeah, they teach it at mone too
01:48 <nsh22> mine*
01:48 <Ratchet--> Integrated DeveLopment Environment
01:48 <PinkTomato> IDE,
01:48 <Ratchet--> its called idle on ubuntu..
01:48 <Ratchet--> its a python shell
01:48 <Ratchet--> like command line
01:48 <PinkTomato> It's an IDE
01:49 <Ratchet--> its an IDE, but its CALLED Idle
01:49 <Ratchet--> when you download, tha name is IDLE
01:49 <PinkTomato> you don't need an IDE for python :)
01:49 <Ratchet--> .google IDLE
01:49 <tronner> Ratchet--: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idle - Idle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:49 <Ratchet--> nope
01:49 <Ratchet--> .google Python IDLE
01:49 <tronner> Ratchet--: http://docs.python.org/library/idle.html - 25.5. IDLE — Python v2.6.1 documentation
01:49 <Ratchet--> voila
01:50 <noob13> Idle is a term which generally refers to a lack of motion and/or energy.
01:50 <Ratchet--> IDLE is the Python IDE built with the tkinter GUI toolkit.
01:50 <noob13> "*"
01:50 <Ratchet--> .
01:50 <epsy> noob13, hrhr
01:50 <epsy> noob13, lazyness ;à
01:50 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: no need for an IDE...
01:50 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: also, keep it simple
01:51 <Ratchet--> k
01:51 <PinkTomato> some say one task done well is better than loads of little tasks done not so well.
01:51 <Ratchet--> just pointing out pink,
01:51 <Ratchet--> you said start out with a command line
01:51 <epsy> yeah, text editor + interpretter is entirely sufficient
01:51 <Ratchet--> IDLE, is a python program that you type code in, just like command line, and it executes it
01:51 <Ratchet--> :/
01:52 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: it might not execute it in the way you want it to work
01:52 <Ratchet--> oh?
01:52 <epsy> the interpreter has such a function
01:52 <epsy> a bit like php's php -a
01:52 <PinkTomato> input | ./process | output
01:52 <PinkTomato> something like that,
01:52 <epsy> no
01:53 <PinkTomato> is it not?
01:53 <epsy> python -
01:53 <epsy> simply
01:55 <noob13> i liked python, unlike java you dont have to type lots to achieve simple things
01:55 <noob13> same might apply to perl and php
01:56 <noob13> perhaps many others too
01:57 <noob13> http://aardvarks.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/sarajeanunderwoodplayboylingerieadvertisements107112.jpg
01:57 <noob13> also, googling python brings goodies.
01:58 <Ratchet--> yeh i think il lstart at python
01:58 <noob13> i wouldn't mind my python in that..
01:58 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: If your not busy, join me in {PinkTomato} NonWorkingServer
01:58 <epsy> noob13 brought the winning point
01:58 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: why did you brick your server
01:58 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ?
01:59 <Ratchet--> k
01:59 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: NonWorkingServer
01:59 <PinkTomato> Because I forgot my IP, so I kept it on master, and wanted a name to scare people off
02:00 <ct|kyle> heh
02:00 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
02:05 <noob13> tronner: tea
02:05 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:06 <noob13> hm, not surprised.
02:06 <noob13> .sd fort
02:06 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (8/14): 3450, 3dot (3dot@ct), Azam Ali, Blubber Nuggets, icepick, maño (hand@ct), MobiusPoint (MobiusPoint@ct), pruHell-lo
02:06 <PinkTomato> .sd PinkTomato
02:06 <tronner> PinkTomato: {PinkTomato} NonWorkingServer0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (2/16): Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums), Råt¢hêt
02:07 <noob13> sounds amazing :D
02:07 <PinkTomato> LOL, it can start a new match, you can join teams,
02:07 <PinkTomato> only needs to know when to stop
02:07 <PinkTomato> it's counting match wins correct as well
02:11 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: Ty, good to user test
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02:21 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato: yw :o
02:23 <PinkTomato> noob13: thanks to you to, I'll think about the team system :)
02:31 <Ratchet--> ww.isgettingrelegay
02:31 <Ratchet--> always messing up some server
02:31 <Ratchet--> anyone here want a sig
02:31 <Ratchet--> im bored as all hell
02:34 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: Nothing wrong with Ww really
02:34 <PinkTomato> They can do what they want with their servers anyway
02:35 <PinkTomato> Only, I wish they could make their forums actually readable :(
02:36 <Ratchet--> exactly
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02:39 <noob13> PinkTomato: the log file probably takes note of someone wanting to join/create a team, you could use that as a trigger..
02:40 <PinkTomato> .llog TEAM
02:40 <tronner> PinkTomato: DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL: [killed] [killer] || DEATH_TEAMKILL: [killed] [killer]
02:40 <PinkTomato> Not that I am aware :S.
02:40 <noob13> hmm
02:41 <noob13> then maybe, some /help messages could do the trick
02:42 <PinkTomato> OK :),
02:42 <noob13> meaning people would have to use the #join etc stuffs
02:42 <PinkTomato> yeah :/
02:42 <noob13> they'd have to be documented/spammed in the console output somehow
02:42 <noob13> :)
02:43 <noob13> idk what im talking about
02:43 <noob13> :P
02:45 <PinkTomato> haha, Yeah, I get it :)
02:45 <PinkTomato> anyways,
02:45 <PinkTomato> .night :)
02:45 <tronner> Good night PinkTomato!
02:47 <Ratchet--> store it in #help
02:47 <Ratchet--> and when they type it, it pops up
02:47 <Ratchet--> =]
02:47 <PinkTomato> :)
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02:48 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: tkinter FTL
02:48 <luke-jr> epsy: 'python -' < 'python'
02:48 <epsy> vroom.
02:51 <noob13> .help llog
02:51 <tronner> noob13: (llog <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/ladderlogconfig.php?config=$1".
02:53 <luke-jr> wow, my wifi map almost doubled in size today
02:53 <luke-jr> http://dashjr.org/maps/wifi/
02:53 <epsy> and that's a firefoxfreezer
02:54 <luke-jr> epsy: might take a while to load
02:54 <luke-jr> but my old desktop did it under a mintue
02:55 <epsy> OMG INCOMING MYBRUTE SPAM
02:56 <Ratchet--> luke-jr: i see your house.
02:56 <luke-jr> …
02:57 <noob13> .fortune
02:57 <tronner> noob13: 'Change your thoughts and you change your world.\n\n[fortune] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/46722\n'
02:57 <noob13> wow, how insightful.
02:57 <epsy> fortune sucks donkey balls..
02:58 <epsy> if you haven't got that already >.>
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02:58 <noob13> .eightball does fortune really suck a donkeys ball?
02:58 <tronner> noob13: You're kidding, right?
02:59 <epsy> @8ball does fortune really suck donkey balls?
02:59 <noob13> most bot generated crap sucks donkey balls
02:59 <epsy> time to run our magic command
03:00 <noob13> !cyborg epsy
03:00 <Frobot> noob13: E.P.S.Y.: Electronic Person Skilled in Yelling
03:00 <noob13> heh, forgot he was here
03:00 <noob13> !part
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03:00 <noob13> i should !part myself
03:00 <noob13> its late
03:00 <noob13> gn
03:01 <epsy> it teabot ever going to reconnect ? >.>
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03:07 <luke-jr> wtf
03:08 <luke-jr> teabot = dreamhost abuse?
03:12 <epsy> good night
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05:33 <zurd> luke-jr ping
05:34 <luke-jr> what
05:35 <zurd> i went to set up a new server, on an exsisting account, i did "/addusr"(or w/e, i know thats not the code, but i put in the right code) and the control panal is on that account, but when i start the server, its not on the list
05:35 <zurd> but it says its running
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05:37 <luke-jr> did you add TALK_TO_MASTER?
05:38 <zurd> well, yeah, TALK_TO_MASTER 1 is added automaticly to the server, and i did just check, its there
05:41 <zurd> hrm...
05:42 <zurd> aparently they JUST started working, luke-jr
05:43 <ivantis> It takes a second for it to appear on the list
05:43 <luke-jr> zurd: so how's your Arma hosting biz working out?
05:43 <luke-jr> got a site?
05:47 <zurd> well...we have kinda
05:47 <zurd> http://66.216.20.12
05:47 <zurd> but no domain
05:48 <luke-jr> zurd: that looks like your clan site
05:48 <luke-jr> :p
05:48 <ivantis> armahosting.ath.cx?
05:49 * luke-jr grabs it
05:49 <ivantis> luke-jr: look at the bottom of the page
05:49 <luke-jr> :O
05:50 <ivantis> Wow, lightspeed systems is sofaking stupid
05:51 <ivantis> They don't filter things by subdomains, so if one .ath.cx website has pr0ns on it, they block all of them
05:51 <luke-jr> zurd: you're too cheap :x
05:51 * luke-jr is going to have to move to just VPS hosting eventually
05:51 <luke-jr> maybe
05:52 <luke-jr> my support is still pretty competitive ;)
05:52 <ivantis> Why?
05:52 <zurd> not for the cheap servers i provide, i think its just right ;)
05:52 <zurd> :P
05:52 <luke-jr> ivantis: his prices are insanely low compared to mine
05:52 <ivantis> Yeah, SSH and the web-interface are cool
05:52 <luke-jr> ivantis: zurd has my web interface
05:53 <ivantis> Ö
05:53 <luke-jr> and in theory can offer SSH too
05:53 <ivantis> Yeah, if he isn't a noob and can set it up right
05:53 <luke-jr> well, he has limited help from me on that
05:53 <luke-jr> it's just a matter of setting the user's shell, rly
05:54 <ivantis> Jah
05:54 <ivantis> But is scp not an issue still?
05:54 <ivantis> I remember you had someone do something bad with the scp on the demo servers
05:55 <luke-jr> ivantis: I think demo servers is beyond what I support him with ☺
05:55 <luke-jr> Actually, I think my "solution" was to turn off scp for demo :p
05:55 <ivantis> What was that last character?
05:55 <luke-jr> a smiley
05:56 <ivantis> I can't see it on my phone
05:56 <luke-jr> stupid phone
05:56 <ivantis> Unicode fails
05:56 <ivantis> The chart has a lot of empty spots
05:56 <luke-jr> pfft
05:56 <luke-jr> the smiley is basic ASCII
05:57 <luke-jr> maybe
05:57 <ivantis> Maybe, but I still can't see it
05:58 <luke-jr> no, it was added in CP437
05:58 <ivantis> Fascinatinglÿ, I have entry for accented characters and some other things, …, but cannot see a simple smiley face
05:58 <luke-jr> in CP437, it's chr(1)
05:58 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437
05:58 <ivantis> ...…...…
05:58 <ivantis> They look the same
05:59 <ivantis> chr(1)? Smileys are important
05:59 <zurd> darnit...luke, whats the code to edit user levels, for the vps
05:59 <luke-jr> zurd: wtf?
05:59 <zurd> sudo?
05:59 <zurd> visduo?
05:59 <luke-jr> visudo
05:59 <zurd> ty
06:00 <luke-jr> be careful you don't delete the control panel's entries
06:00 <luke-jr> ☺
06:00 <zurd> k
06:00 <ivantis> ©2009 ivantis
06:00 <ivantis> ç
06:00 <luke-jr> :o
06:00 <luke-jr> :O
06:00 <luke-jr> hm
06:00 <luke-jr> why doesn't that replace work
06:01 <ivantis> ö
06:01 <luke-jr> -
06:01 <zurd> its ./adduser <name> right?
06:01 <ivantis> Ö
06:01 <luke-jr> zurd: just do ./adduser to get usage
06:01 <zurd> kk
06:01 <luke-jr> ö
06:01 <luke-jr> Ö
06:01 <zurd> ty
06:02 <luke-jr> there we go
06:02 <luke-jr> :p
06:02 <luke-jr> Ö
06:02 <luke-jr> meh
06:02 <zurd> -bash: ./adduser: No such file or directory
06:02 <luke-jr> my NULL- didn't work
06:02 <luke-jr> zurd: fail
06:02 <zurd> o.o
06:02 <zurd> where did i fail?
06:02 <luke-jr> :O
06:02 <luke-jr> there
06:03 <zurd> ^.-
06:03 <zurd> O.o
06:03 <luke-jr> Ö
06:03 <luke-jr> I can type BOTH now
06:03 <luke-jr> :D
06:05 <ivantis> Great, my paypal account got done processing, but I forgotten the password
06:05 <ivantis> And the email address password
06:05 <zurd> ╛.╛
06:05 <zurd> luke-jr why did it say -bash: ./adduser: No such file or directory???
06:05 <zurd> what did i do wrong?
06:06 <zurd> ouch
06:06 <zurd> that sucks
06:06 <ivantis> adduser doesn't exist, noob
06:06 <luke-jr> zurd: go find the real command name
06:06 <luke-jr> and make sure you're in the right dir
06:06 <ivantis> Try adduser, without the ./
06:07 <luke-jr> ivantis: chances are he wants the control panel setup script
06:07 <zurd> thank you ivantis, heven forbid luke tell me that >.<
06:08 <luke-jr> [23:07:31] <dattaway> I have seen things happen and have a need to be anonymous sometimes
06:08 <luke-jr> [23:07:49] <luke-jr> dattaway: blabbign about it on IRC is hardly the best step to being anonymous
06:08 <luke-jr> [23:07:53] <luke-jr> dattaway: consider yourself reported
06:08 <luke-jr> [
06:08 <ivantis> luke-jr, wat email address would I send muneyz to to get VPS server?
06:08 <luke-jr> ivantis: none, you setup service first
06:09 <ivantis> How?
06:09 <luke-jr> PM me
06:09 <zurd> 21:08 luke-jr [23:07:31] <dattaway> I have seen things happen and have a need to be anonymous sometimes 21:08 luke-jr [23:07:49] <luke-jr> dattaway: blabbign about it on IRC is hardly the best step to being anonymous 21:08 luke-jr [23:07:53] <luke-jr> dattaway: consider yourself reported
06:09 <zurd> whats that mean?
06:09 <zurd> or have to do with anything lol
06:09 <ivantis> PM you? No let us speak in here
06:09 <luke-jr> you want everyone here to get your address and phone number?
06:10 <ivantis> Why do you need that?
06:10 <zurd> luke, you dont even have our address and phone numbers...
06:10 <zurd> >.<
06:10 <luke-jr> ivantis: billing address
06:10 <luke-jr> zurd: uh, yes I do
06:10 <zurd> "paypal"
06:10 <ivantis> For paypal?
06:10 <zurd> you dont have mine, i never gave that info O.o
06:11 <luke-jr> ivantis: yeah, PayPal will provide it anyway, but I generally ask outside first, and then verify it matches
06:11 <zurd> :o
06:11 <luke-jr> zurd: yeah, I think the service is technically under neal
06:11 <zurd> whats my adress!
06:11 <ivantis> It does?
06:11 <zurd> ohh, right...
06:11 <ivantis> 123 noob lane
06:11 <luke-jr> zurd: you live in Canada? that's the address I have for you
06:11 <zurd> lol
06:11 <zurd> >.<
06:11 <luke-jr> ivantis: I don't take fraudulent customers anymore, sorry.
06:11 <ivantis> Fraudulent?
06:12 <zurd> fraudulent costumers lol, as long as yer geting paid luke!
06:12 <ivantis> Why of course not! I am not fraudulent
06:12 <luke-jr> ivantis: yeah, that's what lying about your address is when money is involved
06:12 <luke-jr> zurd: stolen credit cards are not somethign I enjoy dealing with
06:12 <zurd> meh
06:12 <ivantis> Can you do a lookup on paypal?
06:12 <zurd> happens
06:12 <ivantis> Like now
06:12 <luke-jr> ivantis: no
06:12 <luke-jr> it would be with the payment
06:13 <luke-jr> which is generally after I setup service
06:13 <ivantis> I don't think I changed my address after I moved
06:13 <ivantis> Possibly
06:13 <luke-jr> either way, I need your current address :p
06:13 <ivantis> Why?
06:13 <ivantis> Trust me, I'm not a robot
06:13 <luke-jr> because billing addresses are a must in the real world
06:14 <luke-jr> (and phone number if you want a VPS, for emergencies only)
06:14 <ivantis> Emergencies?
06:14 <luke-jr> unless you don't mind me simply shutting the VPS off in such emergencies
06:14 <ivantis> You can't call me when I'm in schoolz
06:14 <luke-jr> emergencies like a ton of bandwidth drain
06:15 <luke-jr> I call to verify it's intentional, not DoS
06:15 <ivantis> And can you send me a text message instead?
06:15 <luke-jr> I don't have txt msg capability, but if I can email txt msg fine
06:15 <ivantis> my_phone@ivantis.net
06:15 <ivantis> But I wouldn't be able to reply
06:15 <luke-jr> but if I don't hear back in a timely manner, I might have to turn it off
06:16 <ivantis> !
06:16 <luke-jr> ivantis: if you want me to leave it on, I will, but I'm not sure how much over-bandwidth bill you could afford
06:16 <luke-jr> that's the main concern I have
06:16 <ivantis> Cool
06:17 <luke-jr> eg, 2 TB over bandwidth would be pretty expensive
06:17 <ivantis> And how much bandwidth would one need for a simple webstie?
06:17 <luke-jr> depends on traffic obviously
06:17 <luke-jr> not 2 TB :p
06:17 <ivantis> That's all I'm probably going to need it for
06:17 <luke-jr> like I said, it's the DoS I'd be alerting about
06:17 <luke-jr> or rather, the attempted DoS
06:18 <luke-jr> a verified DoS would get the datacenters null routing the IP due to impact to other servers
06:18 <ivantis> And why no text messaging capabilities?
06:18 <ivantis> Get a better cellular device plan
06:18 <luke-jr> ivantis: you want to buy me text messaging service?
06:19 <luke-jr> feel free :D
06:19 <ivantis> I usually have used all my minutes
06:19 <ivantis> I only get 300 a month
06:19 <luke-jr> I don't even own a cell phone, so there.
06:19 <ivantis> What am I talking about? My phone checks my email every 5 minutes
06:20 <luke-jr> lol
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06:55 <zurd> LOL
06:55 <zurd> 20:33 barjavel.freenode.net idoru set your hostname to "gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-38b3f3a935035e04" 20:33 barjavel.freenode.net 477: | [0] zurd, [1] #armagetron, [2] [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 21:43 barjavel.freenode.net 465: | [0] zurd,
06:55 <zurd> wtf??
07:00 <ivantis> It was explaining that you are a troll and need to be kicked
07:04 <zurd> and none of you are!
07:04 <zurd> >.<
07:04 <zurd> no fair!
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07:06 <luke-jr> ivantis said "I'm tired"
07:06 <luke-jr> so I asked "Yandere?"
07:06 <luke-jr> lulz
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17:53 <noob13> .tea
17:53 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:17 <epsy> guru3, http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19226
18:18 <epsy> guru3, don't let this crap go thru, seriousemy
18:18 <epsy> we have people posing such links coming every 5 minutes in another channel
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19:15 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL, you fucked up ADD_help_topic, in what you gave me
19:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I didn't give you anything, idiot
19:15 <ct|kyle> on launchpad you told me to merge with you
19:16 <luke-jr> oh that
19:16 <luke-jr> I didn't touch the code
19:16 <luke-jr> I just merged it
19:18 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I'm guessing I should take out http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/663
19:18 <ct|kyle> the ePlayer.cpp part
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19:23 <Vanhayes> .tea
19:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): -»|boo, -»|hoop (hoop@forums), AJ
19:23 <MrBougo> it's Van!
19:24 <MrBougo> eh, he has a new friend
19:24 <MrBougo> Lance Ingvar
19:24 <MrBougo> hairy torso!
19:24 <luke-jr> >>> Emerging (4 of 8) x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6
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19:42 <Vanhayes> not me
19:43 <PinkTomato> .tea
19:43 <tronner> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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19:46 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r666 merging with mainline || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r665 Removing obsolete /help || [armagetronad-old-glancing] r763 Merge from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r913 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9201 to 9219:...
19:50 <noob13> .tea
19:51 <tronner> noob13: timed out
19:53 <PinkTomato> .ctos
19:53 <tronner> PinkTomato: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (10/12): *ÂlÊx*, -=}Teck, -»~¡©£®~, Néró ©, PhysiX_FuZZel, Pink Tomatoes (Pink\\_Tomatoes@forums), thelastSunrise, WTF IS A TRON, Zombie Jesus, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
19:54 <PinkTomato> tronner: Convert latin-1 into UTF-8 Please :)
19:55 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: it isn't?
19:55 <luke-jr> it shouldn't
19:55 <luke-jr> the master data should be UTF-8
19:55 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: -»~¡©£®~ should be ?-»~¡©£®~«-?, ?
19:55 <noob13> ]tea
19:55 <PinkTomato> oh,,
19:55 <ljrbot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): noob13 (noob13@forums)
19:56 <noob13> come!! :P
19:56 <Vanhayes> lobely noob13 ?
19:56 <noob13> yeh, a bit
19:59 <akira_arma> O.o
19:59 <akira_arma> i am fnished dwonlaoding kubuntu in 50 ... then ill join
20:00 <luke-jr> y
20:08 <PinkTomato> 50 whats?
20:11 <Vanhayes> days
20:11 <PinkTomato> haha
20:11 <PinkTomato> no idea what ubuntu servers are like,
20:12 <PinkTomato> isn't kubuntu 9.04 out in a few days?
20:17 <akira_arma> i am downloading 9.10
20:18 <akira_arma> err
20:18 <akira_arma> 8.10
20:19 <PinkTomato> ah
20:19 <akira_arma> i can upgrade when it hits stable
20:19 <akira_arma> i used fedora
20:20 <akira_arma> but i had probs with some of my hardware
20:20 <akira_arma> well soundcard
20:23 <PinkTomato> :( I have had that.
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21:29 <spidey> .tea
21:29 <tronner> spidey: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:29 * spidey pokes Vanhayes
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21:39 <noob13> .tea
21:39 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:54 <PinkTomato> .sl
22:54 <tronner> PinkTomato: This data is 3 seconds old; - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (11/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (7/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), -=JacKZenTH=- High RUbber (7/8), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), *~ 7-clan ~*~ DirtFight ~* (6/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), bib (5/16), Wild West =Sumo= (2 more messages)
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23:59 <madmax> .tea
23:59 <tronner> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): ¦×¦ Liza (Liza@x/member), blueZ0r, e¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), noob13, noob28, PhysiX_FuZZel
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Logs from 2006-2009 pulled from wrtlprnft
Format changes at: 2015-08-25, 2017-02-20, and 2020-03-23. Times (2015 and later) should be Eastern.
• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
» Other icons: fontawesome

is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...