Log from 2009-04-12:
--- Day changed Sun Apr 12 2009
00:00 <epsy> should be explained by the tooltip
00:09 <Lucifer> well, I guess I'm ready
00:09 <Lucifer> tie-dye bandana, tie-dye button up shirt, black tie
00:10 <PinkTomato> :)
00:10 <epsy> what are you ready for?
00:11 <epsy> Lucifer, have you signed up to the glou-devel ML ?
00:13 <Lucifer> epsy: no, not yet, been a bit busy last couple of days
00:13 <epsy> it's currently about using XMPP as backend
00:13 <Lucifer> heh
00:13 <Lucifer> i see luke-jr joined already
00:13 <epsy> nah
00:13 <epsy> it's actually well fit for the task
00:13 <Lucifer> you want me to go in and piss on that idea?
00:14 <epsy> but I've just had to arise the problem of web-authentication
00:14 <epsy> why would you do that?
00:14 <Lucifer> xmpp doesn't lend itself well to web authentication
00:14 <epsy> yeah
00:15 <Vanhayes> Lucifer, are you buskering?
00:15 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: yessir
00:15 <Lucifer> my buddy and I decided I needed a more outrageous costume, so here it is, heh
00:15 <epsy> tbh, it has all what's needed, ie. presence protocol, chatting protocol, conference rooms, buddy list
00:15 * Lucifer should take a picture, he thinks he looks kinda cool
00:16 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: the cops totally left me alone last night, which was mainly waht i wanted to know
00:16 <epsy> - and voicechat
00:16 <Vanhayes> as long as no one complains, i doubt the cops would get involved, though you never know
00:16 <Lucifer> austin's supposed to be busker-friendly, but the cops and the council don't always see eye to eye, and on the street, the cops make the decisions
00:17 <Vanhayes> how long did it take to make 17$?
00:17 <Lucifer> around 5 hours
00:17 <luke-jr> epsy: wha?
00:17 <Ratchet--> lol
00:17 <Ratchet--> jeez
00:17 <Lucifer> but it was my first time, show needs work ;)
00:17 <PinkTomato> .math 17 / 5
00:17 <Ratchet--> just go sell some cans or something Lucifer
00:17 <Lucifer> you guys give up too easily
00:17 <Lucifer> google around and you'll find that's a decent take for a first-timer
00:18 <Lucifer> now I need to improve that, of course... ;)
00:18 <Vanhayes> the better the show the more it attracts a crowd, the more money you get
00:18 <Ratchet--> get a guitar
00:18 <Ratchet--> you'll make more :P
00:18 <Vanhayes> if you are any good
00:18 <Lucifer> guitar players are a dime a dozen here, and the competition is fierce
00:18 <Vanhayes> take up sax
00:18 <Ratchet--> oic
00:18 <Lucifer> there is, to my knowledge, only one juggler, and that's me
00:18 <Ratchet--> where you live?
00:18 <PinkTomato> What do you juggle?
00:18 <Ratchet--> xD
00:18 <Lucifer> Austin, TX, the live music capital of the world
00:18 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: just balls right now
00:19 <Ratchet--> i lives around Lake Charles, La
00:19 <Vanhayes> saw a sax player buskering in dowtown calgary last year and he was making a killing, really good
00:19 <PinkTomato> how many :)?
00:19 <Lucifer> no money for other supplies, but I'm considering converting some pvc pipes to clubs and work up a club routine
00:19 <Lucifer> only 3 right now, heh
00:19 <Vanhayes> 17 bucks is pretty good for your first time with 3 balls then
00:19 <Lucifer> they sell fireballs I could juggle, but it's $100 for a set of three
00:19 <Ratchet--> really on fire?
00:20 <Ratchet--> or just a name
00:20 <Lucifer> yes, really on fire
00:20 <Vanhayes> maybe team up with a guitarist?
00:20 <Ratchet--> lol
00:20 <Vanhayes> but then i guess you'd have to split it
00:20 <Lucifer> guitar players are a dime a dozen down here, heh
00:20 <Lucifer> I can play guitar, that's not an issue for me
00:20 <Lucifer> I could rehearse a good set in a week or so, and go do that
00:20 <Ratchet--> harmonica!
00:20 <epsy> sleep time
00:20 <Vanhayes> how many guitar/juggling shows tho?
00:20 <epsy> night
00:20 <Ratchet--> gnite
00:20 <PinkTomato> I like the spanish? juggling?
00:20 <Lucifer> it's just that there are so damned many guitar players, and people can go into any random club and see a talented band playing
00:20 <PinkTomato> night :)
00:21 <PinkTomato> the one with the clear ball
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00:21 <Vanhayes> true, i guess its different when its busker season all the time there, not too many here in -20 to -40 degree weather
00:22 <Lucifer> on the flip side, the word on the internet anyway is that buskers in canada do really well
00:22 <Lucifer> and austin is one of the harder places to do well, so we'll see
00:22 <Vanhayes> you there is a nice busker festival in halifax every year
00:22 <Vanhayes> ya*
00:22 <Lucifer> I need to work on making a good show with what I've got before I worry too much about how much I'm making
00:23 <Vanhayes> saw fire juggling/eating there one yeatr
00:23 <Lucifer> if I get around $20 with steady improvements that correspond to an improving show, then I'm happy
00:23 <Lucifer> good way to spend the weekend, really, when I'd otherwise probably be at home hanging out in irc ;)
00:24 <Vanhayes> ya, 17$ isnt a whole lot, but its more than you make doing nothing
00:24 <MrBougo> Vanhayes, did Van change his photo again?
00:24 <Vanhayes> .google vanhayes
00:24 <Lucifer> there's also the "fun" part of it, I had a really great time last night
00:24 <tronner> Vanhayes: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
00:24 <Lucifer> the kind of great time you'd normally have to *spend* $20 to have ;)
00:24 <MrBougo> oh he's bacl
00:24 <Ratchet--> lol
00:25 <MrBougo> hahahahhaha Vanhayes
00:25 <Lucifer> so you could think of it as "I made $37, because I did't have to spend naything"
00:25 <MrBougo> you'll love one of Van Hayes' friends
00:25 <MrBougo> Ates Bear
00:25 <MrBougo> http://it-it.facebook.com/people/Ates-Bear/1127687080
00:25 <Ratchet--> haha van
00:25 <Lucifer> is that really you on FaceBook, Vanhayes (hi there!) ?
00:25 <Ratchet--> you is so sexi
00:25 <Ratchet--> (jk)
00:26 <MrBougo> and Lance Ingvar too
00:26 <Ratchet--> rofl mr bougo
00:26 <MrBougo> Van Hayes' friends are hairy
00:26 <Vanhayes> yes, they found me out, im really an aging overweight man in a pool from florida :/
00:26 <Ratchet--> lol!!
00:26 <MrBougo> too bad you didn't see the pic in the tub
00:26 <Vanhayes> ya that was sexy
00:26 <MrBougo> it was excellent
00:26 <Lucifer> heh, i didn't see the location
00:26 * Lucifer was about to friend you there...
00:27 <Vanhayes> MrBougo, Ates bear will haunt my dreams
00:27 <Lucifer> well, I gotta finish getting ready and then call my ride
00:27 <Lucifer> bbl
00:27 <PinkTomato> bye! :)
00:27 <MrBougo> "He is proud to be CHRISTIAN"
00:27 <Vanhayes> nah, im not really on facebook, ive seen how addicting it ca be
00:27 <MrBougo> Vanhayes, lmao
00:28 <MrBougo> I think he'll haunt mine too D:
00:28 <Vanhayes> Ates is a fan of http://it-it.facebook.com/pages/rough-gods/46143324049 it seems
00:29 <MrBougo> hahahahahhaha
00:29 <MrBougo> amazing
00:29 <Vanhayes> anywas bboab
00:29 <MrBougo> baobab
00:30 <PinkTomato> boabobaob?
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00:40 <Ratchet--> this conficker stuff
00:41 <Ratchet--> is it something real, or some bullshit april fools?
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00:43 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: don't you use Ubuntu ;)?
00:45 <Ratchet--> what do you mean mate
00:45 <Ratchet--> my vps is on ubuntu yes
00:45 <Ratchet--> and i have vista and ubuntu on my computer
00:45 <Ratchet--> but im on the vista half atm
00:46 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
00:46 <Ratchet--> Which were you referring to? :)
00:46 <PinkTomato> home PC,
00:46 <PinkTomato> You wouldn't run Windows on a server usuallu
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00:50 <Ratchet--> I use ubuntu sometimes :D why did you want to know? :P
00:51 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
00:51 <PinkTomato> (23:49:33) Ratchet--: this conficker stuff
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00:52 <Ratchet--> ah
00:52 <Ratchet--> ah
00:52 <Ratchet--> only windows is ..exposed
00:52 <Ratchet--> correct?
00:53 <Ratchet--> makes sense
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00:54 <PinkTomato> well... yeah... I think so...
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00:55 <PinkTomato> Windows programs and viruses don't work on Linux
00:55 <PinkTomato> though you can run some viruses through wine....
00:55 <PinkTomato> no idea why you would do that though
01:00 <Ratchet--> lol
01:00 <Ratchet--> brb
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01:16 <noob13> hi
01:16 <Ratchet--> hello
01:16 <noob13> anyone familiar with GRUB?
01:16 <PinkTomato> sort of, not really
01:17 <Ratchet--> .google supybot
01:17 <tronner> Ratchet--: http://supybot.com/ - SourceForge.net: Supybot
01:17 <noob13> i've installed xp and ubuntu on a family machine in hopes to have working dual boot
01:18 <noob13> but grub gives me error 12: invalid device requested
01:18 <Ratchet--> when you start it up does it go to a black screen
01:18 <Ratchet--> to choose OS
01:18 <Ratchet--> or automatically boots grub
01:19 <noob13> when i boot the computer it loads grub fine.. when i select XP and hit enter it gives me the error
01:19 <noob13> im staring at my /boot/grub/menu.lst atm..
01:19 <noob13> it seems alright :P
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01:20 <noob13> bai then :P
01:21 <PinkTomato> You have a sort of back-up rescue system (not system restore) on your pc?
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01:23 <noob13> there's that system restore partition (vista)... nothing else.
01:24 <noob13> btw, vista fucking blows :P
01:24 <Ratchet--> yes it does
01:25 <PinkTomato> noob13: well a quick way to get a quick fix if you have people annyoyed, is to run use a windows recovery console, and use fixmbr and fixboot
01:25 <noob13> it used 1 gb of ram while just sitting around after booting.. and cpu went from 20 to 70 % all the time
01:25 <PinkTomato> noob13: sounds like norton was installed, teehee :)
01:26 <noob13> PinkTomato, won't those commands make my ubuntu partition inaccessible again?
01:26 <Ratchet--> uh
01:26 <PinkTomato> unfortunatly,
01:26 <Ratchet--> download gparted and put it in livecd
01:26 <Ratchet--> wipe out your partition and reinstall ubuntu
01:26 <Ratchet--> :/
01:27 <PinkTomato> sounds excessive,
01:27 <noob13> yeah, :P
01:27 <PinkTomato> computers use logic anywy
01:27 <Ratchet--> takes a bit but it works
01:27 <PinkTomato> anyway*
01:27 <PinkTomato> if it failed the first time, it will fail the next
01:27 <Ratchet--> might not be the 'fastest' route
01:27 <Ratchet--> bummed ubuntu maybe?
01:27 <PinkTomato> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1065634
01:27 <Ratchet--> some versions are shitty
01:28 <PinkTomato> noob13: not sure that lionk will be any use :)
01:28 <noob13> installed 9.04 beta on this
01:29 <noob13> hmm, looks like the other 100 forum threads i skimmed through today :P
01:30 <Ratchet--> i love this extra graphics option in ubuntu
01:30 <Ratchet--> just bouncing the windows around like jelly is so fun
01:31 <noob13> yeah, those are fun, was playing with them myself earlier..
01:32 <Ratchet--> lol
01:32 <noob13> :P
01:32 <Ratchet--> and when you place a window in the corner it kinda sticks
01:32 <Ratchet--> so you slowly pull away then it POPs!
01:33 <noob13> yep, and the desktop cube and all the other compiz shiz is fun..
01:33 <noob13> but so useless! :P
01:33 <PinkTomato> oh no!
01:33 <PinkTomato> desktop cube
01:33 <Ratchet--> desktop cube?
01:33 <PinkTomato> I had one side with my College Work,
01:34 <PinkTomato> One with a firefox window full of stuff that I needed for it
01:34 <PinkTomato> and another side with facebook on it, xD
01:34 <noob13> hehe, yea.. it could work in theory
01:34 <noob13> i just kept losing my windows
01:35 <noob13> plus it made Xorg use an excessive amount of cpu
01:36 <noob13> arh, ppl at #grub aren't responding..
01:37 <Ratchet--> where would i get desktop cube
01:37 <Ratchet--> isn't in app list
01:39 <noob13> u might need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
01:39 <Ratchet--> hey
01:39 <noob13> hey
01:39 <Ratchet--> pink
01:39 <Ratchet--> lol
01:39 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
01:39 <PinkTomato> ?
01:39 <Ratchet--> go to system, preferences, remote desktop prefs
01:40 <Ratchet--> under sharing
01:40 <Ratchet--> would you be able to access that via ssh
01:40 <Ratchet--> or what?
01:41 <PinkTomato> no idea, but I got to go to bed very very shortly :)
01:41 <PinkTomato> in fact, night ::)
01:41 <Ratchet--> ok
01:41 <Ratchet--> my computers being a bit laggy
01:41 <Ratchet--> goodnight
01:41 <PinkTomato> good luck noob13 :)
01:41 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: compiz ? ;)
01:42 <PinkTomato> compiz causes loads of problems
01:42 <Ratchet--> whats compiz
01:42 <Ratchet--> ?
01:42 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
01:42 <PinkTomato> silly wobbly windows ;)
01:42 <Ratchet--> im on ubuntu
01:42 <Ratchet--> atm
01:42 <Ratchet--> ;
01:43 <noob13> compiz hadles the fancy effects on ubuntu
01:43 <Ratchet--> when minimizing windows its like reeley slow
01:43 <Ratchet--> oic
01:43 <noob13> go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual effects and change it to "none"
01:43 <noob13> see if that helps...
01:44 <Ratchet--> a bit
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01:46 <noob13> do you have a slow computer?
01:47 <Ratchet--> not at all
01:47 <Ratchet--> 4 gb ram dual core processors
01:47 <PinkTomato> make sure you are using right graphics card
01:47 <PinkTomato> drivers
01:48 <Ratchet--> looks correct
01:48 <Ratchet--> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
01:48 <Ratchet--> enabled
01:48 <Ratchet--> also, my wireless is messed up on this again
01:48 <Ratchet--> will have to check into that
01:49 <Ratchet--> i got a new computer
01:49 <Ratchet--> and it's not working
01:49 <Ratchet--> i haven't tried any fixing yet, though
01:50 <Ratchet--> btw
01:50 <noob13> wireless worked out of the box for the first time for me on this machine
01:50 <Ratchet--> how would i go about getting better non shitty fonts
01:50 <noob13> might have been the 9.04
01:51 <Ratchet--> because the internet fonts suckass
01:51 <noob13> or just chilling hardware
01:52 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: install windows non-free fonts
01:53 <Ratchet--> non-free?
01:53 <PinkTomato> though that makes everything become that horrible Arial font
01:53 <PinkTomato> it is something like that
01:53 <Ratchet--> costing?
01:53 <noob13> i think the fonts are sexy in ubuntu :P
01:53 <Ratchet--> how much
01:53 <noob13> meaning..
01:53 <noob13> ubuntu doesn't ship with them as they aren't 'free'
01:53 <Ratchet--> how can you like them
01:54 <noob13> but u can still get them for free
01:54 <Ratchet--> all the letters run together on ubuntu
01:54 <Ratchet--> at least on the internet
01:54 <Ratchet--> applications are fine
01:54 <noob13> not for me
01:54 <Ratchet--> but internet pages are shit
01:54 <noob13> dunno about that
01:55 <noob13> looks sweet to me
01:56 <Ratchet--> k picture comin' your way
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01:56 <Ratchet--> http://i41.tinypic.com/24whic2.png
01:56 <Ratchet--> check it out :/
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01:59 <noob13> i'd blame the author.. looks like some twisted css rules..
02:00 <noob13> it looks kinda the same on mine
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08:24 <Ratchet--> hello folks
08:24 <Ratchet--> let me tell you a story, about how i fuqed up.
08:24 <Ratchet--> earlier today, i decided hell, time to do windows updates for once
08:25 <Ratchet--> so yada ya i do updates and it says shut down now, shut down later
08:25 <Ratchet--> so i shut down now?! !
08:25 <Ratchet--> k then im lyk
08:25 <Ratchet--> oh i haven't played around on my ubuntu for a while let's go there
08:25 <Ratchet--> so i play on ubuntu for a while!
08:25 <Ratchet--> i load windows
08:25 <Ratchet--> or rather, get the message that windows totally hates me now
08:26 <Ratchet--> i get about 50 errors on the windows side when i try to boot it
08:26 <Ratchet--> no way around but completely wiping computer
08:26 <Ratchet--> and that is the story of why windows blows
08:26 <Ratchet--> the end
08:26 <Ratchet--> /applause
08:27 <Ratchet--> ping luke-jr
08:27 <Ratchet--> Hey can i get my resource password changed bud?
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22:10 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): Alfa, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), Mieguy
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22:41 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:41 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): 09\', °°° ³dot °, balls!, own all, Retard, Tdsok, Zombie Jesus
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23:12 <epsy> @tea
23:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): Monolyth
23:12 <epsy> @sd -v café
23:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090228 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (1/32): Monolyth
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23:31 <Vanhayes> .si fort
23:31 <tronner> Vanhayes: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress: Players (15/32): \'rope, -»|hoop (hoop@forums), 1200, ac3¦Cookie_fet (dubStep@ct), Ace.Outlook_fet, CtxWoned, Ct_Concord, ct|Puuquie (Puuquie@ct), DDMJ (DDMJ@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), SNAFU, WildWest, Zombie Jesus, _~`Ww_Superman, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
23:32 <Vanhayes> epsy, tahts where everyone is
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Logs from 2006-2009 pulled from wrtlprnft
Format changes at: 2015-08-25, 2017-02-20, and 2020-03-23. Times (2015 and later) should be Eastern.
• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
» Other icons: fontawesome

is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...