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Log from 2008-08-20:
--- Day changed Wed Aug 20 2008
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00:43 <ivantis> internet outage at my house, due to some dork unplugging my modem
01:02 <Lucifer> go unplug it again
01:03 <ivantis> no
01:07 <Lucifer> please?
01:19 <ivantis> no
01:20 <ivantis> Lucifer: how do i call a void in C++?
01:20 <ivantis> like how do i make one run at a certain time
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01:47 <ivantis> nvm
01:51 <Monkey_arma> ivantis?
01:51 <Monkey_arma> "call" a void?
01:53 <K-Yo> use his phone number of course
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02:21 <Lucifer> ivantis: write the program, then stick it in a cronjob
03:07 <ivantis> no
03:07 <ivantis> not like that, i mean like
03:07 <ivantis> how would i call this?
03:07 <ivantis> static void sg_CreateZone_conf(std::istream &s)
03:07 <ivantis> just sg_CreateZone(arguments)?
03:10 <Lucifer> ummmm, yes?
03:10  * Lucifer thinks your question answers itself
03:10 <ivantis> would it be sg_CreateZone_ or just sg_CreateZone? because the void has a _ before the conf
03:15 <Lucifer> sg_CreateZone_conf(std::istream &s)
03:15 <Lucifer> why would you leave off the _conf part?
03:15 <ivantis> oh yeah
03:15 <Lucifer> that's part of the name
03:15 <ivantis> righto
03:16 <ivantis> error on make: tron/gWinZone.cpp:4697: error: ‘sg_CreateZone_conf’ was not declared in this scope
03:16  * Lucifer is modifying a python script that he doesn't know that generates code he doesn't know to generate c++ classes instead of c structs
03:16 <Lucifer> the error message clearly tells you what's not working :)
03:16 <ivantis> yes
03:16 <ivantis> but how do i make it work?
03:16 <ivantis> its in the same file
03:17 <Lucifer> beats me, I'd have to look at the whole thing to figure it out
03:17 <ivantis> well
03:17 <Lucifer> you'll need to focus on the word "scope" in the error message
03:17 <ivantis> scope
03:17 <Lucifer> and "declared"
03:17 <Lucifer> those are the two key words that provide meaning
03:17 <ivantis> yes, now how do i declare it in that scope?
03:17 <Lucifer> check your basic c++ book?
03:17  * Lucifer isn't a c++ instructor
03:17 <ivantis> uhm
03:18 <ivantis> Jamsa's C/C++ Programmer's Bible?
03:18 <Lucifer> declaring data types and scope are fundamentals of c/c++
03:18 <Lucifer> I don't read bibles
03:18 <Lucifer> not much for religion, myself
03:18 <ivantis> neither do i
03:18 <ivantis> this book is retarded
03:18 <ivantis> its all on VC++
03:18 <ivantis> for windows
03:18 <ivantis> most of it is
03:19 <ivantis> there isnt a good C++ book selection at my library
03:20 <Lucifer> luckily, you have the internet available to you
03:20 <ivantis> yes
03:20 <ivantis> lucky me
03:21 <ivantis> should the top of the void i am adding it to have this line in it: &sg_CreateZone_conf ?
03:24 <ivantis> nevermind that, but aha! could it be because the block of code defining it is below the block of code calling it?
03:24 <ivantis> hmm?
03:26 <ivantis> yes, i think that was it!
03:26 <ivantis> new problem:
03:26 <ivantis> tron/gWinZone.cpp:5375: error: invalid initialization of non-const reference of type ‘std::istream&’ from a temporary of type ‘const char*’
03:26 <ivantis> tron/gWinZone.cpp:4854: error: in passing argument 1 of ‘void sg_CreateZone_conf(std::istream&)’
03:27 <Monkey_arma> ivantis, join ##c++ and ask them for some good online c++ documentation
03:28 <ivantis> no, i prefer to bug you guys
03:28 <Monkey_arma> There are 500 people in there
03:28 <Monkey_arma> I was not being sarcastic
03:28 <ivantis> i know
03:28 <Monkey_arma> I will be asking in there soon too
03:28 <Monkey_arma> also:
03:28 <ivantis> ive been there before
03:28 <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=77af4e7555591e0e4971687ef426751d
03:32 <GodTodd> ivantis: #C++ will recommend TICPP
03:32  * GodTodd is in pain.
03:32 <ivantis> hey geniuses, why wouldnt this work?
03:32 <ivantis> sg_CreateZone_conf << "death 150 150 4";
03:33 <ivantis> it says tron/gWinZone.cpp:5375: error: invalid operands of types ‘void ()(std::istream&)’ and ‘const char [16]’ to binary ‘operator<<’
03:33 <ivantis> i dont get it
03:34 <GodTodd> says you can't do 'that' to 'those'
03:36 <ivantis> know what?
03:36 <ivantis> im too tired
03:36  * ivantis will pick up tomorrow
03:39 <Lucifer> freeciv's packet processing code is hopelessly complicated
03:39 <Lucifer> all I want to see is the guts of the operation so I can reimplement it in a c++-like fashion
03:39 <Lucifer> :(
03:52 <GodTodd> i forgot utd was more expensive than ccccd :/
03:53 <Lucifer> heh
03:53 <GodTodd> like more *expensive*
03:54 <GodTodd> gonna be an interesting semester
03:54 <GodTodd> i'll be going to two schools
03:55 <Lucifer> still more classes to take at cccccccccp?
03:56 <GodTodd> yeah...they want me to take calc III there
03:57 <ivantis> perl is so much more simple than C++
03:57 <ivantis> calculus?
03:58 <ivantis> that sounds hard
03:58 <ivantis> im only in geometry
03:58 <GodTodd> so i'm taking discrete math, calc III, and intro to digital systems
03:58 <Lucifer> http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/health/bal-drink0819,0,48166.story   <---- people who think we've got free speech here should watch what happens to the people who suggested studying the drinking age again
03:58 <ivantis> i wish there was a programming class at my school
03:58 <ivantis> where i could talk to people
03:58 <ivantis> unlike in IRC
03:59 <ivantis> where you can only chat
03:59 <GodTodd> heh...in high school what languages did we have to choose from....BASIC, Fortran, Pascal....any others? ;)
03:59 <Lucifer> I don't recall fortran being available
03:59 <ivantis> bah, im only in Jr High still
04:00 <GodTodd> maybe it wasn't
04:00 <Lucifer> ivantis: I knew basic in jr high :)
04:00 <Lucifer> might have started in on C then, not sure exactly when that happened
04:00 <ivantis> have any of you guys played the original TRON of the arcade?
04:00 <Lucifer> I have
04:00 <Lucifer> also played the original star wars
04:00 <GodTodd> i have
04:00 <ivantis> the levels are named BASIC, Snobol, Fortran, pascal
04:00 <ivantis> OS
04:00 <ivantis> RAM
04:00 <ivantis> stuff like that
04:00 <Lucifer> never noticed that
04:01 <ivantis> yeah, it says at the bottom
04:01 <ivantis> of the selection screen
04:01 <GodTodd> man...junior high...what'd they have in that lab? apple IIe weren't they?
04:01 <Lucifer> yeah
04:01 <Lucifer> I think they upgraded to apple IIgs while we were there
04:01 <ivantis> now we all have Windows XP
04:01 <GodTodd> could be
04:01 <Lucifer> or maybe it was that they had one
04:02 <GodTodd> people give me a dog fart look when i mention Alpha Micros
04:03 <Lucifer> I don't think I've yet encountered an old school geek that knows what they were
04:03 <GodTodd> i haven't
04:03 <GodTodd> i keep trying the geek teachers
04:03 <Lucifer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Micro
04:04 <GodTodd> closest i got was my physics II teacher that told the story of his college roommate scrounging trash 80s for the gold connections for beer money
04:04 <Lucifer> holy shit, alpha micro is still in business
04:04 <GodTodd> no shit?
04:05 <Lucifer> no shit
04:05 <GodTodd> i hope they're using smaller disks
04:05 <GodTodd> ;)
04:05 <Lucifer> http://www.alphamicro.com/amphtm/home.htm
04:05 <ivantis> whats alphamicro?
04:06 <ivantis> computer company?
04:06 <ivantis> i feel short
04:06 <GodTodd> yep
04:06 <Lucifer> clearly they're doing so poorly because they insist on producing their own proprietary operating system that nobody likes
04:06 <GodTodd> almost as old as me and Lucifer
04:06 <ivantis> wow, that must be old
04:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer, that doesn't sound like anyone in the computer business ;)
04:07 <GodTodd> wow...they've finally gone GUI?
04:08 <Lucifer> AM-7000 is the fastest Alpha Micro computer we've ever built.....Motorola 68060 75MHz CPU  <--- there's no way they can still be in business
04:11 <GodTodd> http://www.alphamicro.com/amphtm/docs.htm#idxtag001
04:11 <GodTodd> they're still marketing an awful lot for a dead company ;)
04:11 <GodTodd> man...remember kermit?
04:11 <ivantis> the home page isnt loading
04:11 <GodTodd> that was fucking fun
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04:12 <ivantis> ok
04:13 <ivantis> here is my problem:
04:13 <luke-jr> we don't care
04:13 <ivantis> this is the line, static void sg_CreateZone_conf(std::istream &s)
04:13 <ivantis> how do i call it and have the input?
04:13 <ivantis> as the "s"
04:13 <ivantis> i tried sg_CreateZone_conf << "<s>"
04:13 <ivantis> but it gave me an error
04:13 <ivantis> what do i do now???
04:14 <ivantis> it said like
04:14 <luke-jr> do 5 jumping jacks and stand on one hand while you play Candy Land
04:14 <ivantis> tron/gWinZone.cpp:5375: error: invalid operands of types ‘void ()(std::istream&)’ and ‘const char [16]’ to binary ‘operator<<’
04:14 <ivantis> no
04:14 <ivantis> i wont
04:14 <luke-jr> then you're stuck
04:15 <ivantis> come on, i know you can help me!
04:15 <luke-jr> maybe, if I tried!
04:15 <ivantis> other than the candy land solution
04:15 <ivantis> well, try!
04:15 <ivantis> puh-leez
04:15 <luke-jr> so wtf is "<s>" supposed to mean anyhow?
04:16 <ivantis> like the &s input of sg_CreateZone_conf
04:16 <ivantis> it reads s as the argument
04:17 <ivantis> ?
04:17 <luke-jr> or you just made up a bunch of baloney
04:17 <ivantis> no i didnt
04:17 <ivantis> but why does sg_whatever << "input" not work?
04:17 <ivantis> how should it be?
04:18 <luke-jr> probably a std::istream instead of a character array
04:18 <ivantis> how do i do that?
04:20 <ivantis> ??
04:21 <ct|kyle> ivantis: remember you were supposed to read that C++ book not skim it
04:21 <ivantis> oh yeah
04:21 <luke-jr> lol ct|kyle
04:21 <luke-jr> wd
04:22 <ivantis> ]night
04:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i just remembered what the monkey said
04:22 <luke-jr> still wd
04:23 <ct|kyle> now where can i find a python tutorial
04:23 <ct|kyle> i don't feel like buying a book and skimming it :P
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04:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: check out the official reference
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04:32 <GodTodd> sl JIP
04:32 <GodTodd> dl*
04:32 <luke-jr> no
04:33 <GodTodd> was i talking to you, penis wrinkle?
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04:39 <GodTodd> and actually it's not JIP it's DIP :)
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05:32 <Lucifer> ok, Friday is the day
05:32 <Lucifer> I will quit smoking on Friday
05:32 <Lucifer> damn, where's armabot to make the reminder?
05:33 <hoax> rofl gl
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05:36 <Lucifer> so I'm a go to the store and buy a pack, and work out a plan
05:36 <hoax> what u smoke
05:36 <Lucifer> you know, something I can refer to when I get crazy after not smoking for a day or two
05:36 <Lucifer> American Spirits
05:36 <hoax> hrm
05:36 <Lucifer> may as well just smoke money, heh
05:37 <hoax> yank fags eh
05:37 <Lucifer> not really, no
05:37 <Lucifer> well, I guess so, since they sold out
05:37 <Lucifer> used to be a native american owned and operated company
05:37 <Lucifer> the yanks are the immigrants that conquered the country :)
05:37 <hoax> how much for 20 then
05:37 <Lucifer> $6
05:37 <hoax> so bout 3 quid
05:37 <xfroggy> smoke bronco's lol
05:37 <hoax> jeez
05:38 <xfroggy> after a 5 packs I gave up smoking and haven't looked back lol
05:38 <xfroggy> i dont think I could breath for a month after those things lol
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05:39  * hoax just gets denver broncos on google
05:39 <Lucifer> heh
05:39 <Lucifer> I've long considered it part of the problem that I smoke really good cigarettes
05:39 <Lucifer> I'm trying to reprogram myself to think they're really bad cigarettes
05:39 <hoax> rofl xfroggy they made in columbia
05:39 <xfroggy> yea...LOL
05:39 <hoax> maybe liz is on that shit
05:39 <Lucifer> I think if I screw up and grab a smoke after I quit, I won't smoke it without beating myself up somehow
05:39 <Lucifer> you know, phycisally
05:39 <xfroggy> i kinda went broke after started ordering smokes from europe
05:40 <xfroggy> so i had to switch :S
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05:40 <hoax> rofl
05:40 <Lucifer> I'll like put some vice crips on my nutsack or something
05:40 <xfroggy> whatever you do Lucifer, when you ready to quit, make sure you buy yourself a full pack lol
05:40 <Lucifer> you making fun of me?
05:40 <xfroggy> no
05:40 <hoax> LOL
05:40 <Lucifer> ok, so why buy the full pack?
05:40 <xfroggy> thats how my friends & I quit though lol
05:41 <xfroggy> tricking your mind
05:41 <xfroggy> its not "ima finish this and thats it"
05:41 <xfroggy> u have a pack laying around, but thats it...u done smoking
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05:41 <hoax> thats just a waste of fkn money
05:41 <hoax> lol
05:41 <xfroggy> nah
05:41 <Lucifer> you didn't crack it open when you were craving?
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05:41 <hoax> too good for the smokes ay
05:41 <xfroggy> if u going to wait till the last pack, it will never end
05:41 <hoax> lol
05:41 <xfroggy> nope
05:42 <Lucifer> I have considered buying a pack and writing all over it with a sharpie
05:42 <xfroggy> well I did smoked bronco's last
05:42 <Lucifer> "Loser!  Don't touch!"  etc
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05:42 <xfroggy> my lungs couldn't take it lol
05:42 <hoax> they do that here, write stuff on em
05:42 <Lucifer> people who quit?  or just stuff that's printed on the packs?
05:42 <xfroggy> haha
05:42 <hoax> lol
05:43 <hoax> smokers die younger
05:43 <hoax> erm
05:43 <hoax> thx for that
05:43 <xfroggy> ...
05:43 <Lucifer> ?  did I miss something?
05:43  * Lucifer suspects luke-jr is talking again
05:43 <luke-jr> WRONG
05:43 <hoax> hay luke
05:43 <hoax> i cant connect to one of your servers
05:43 <luke-jr> what
05:44 <luke-jr> why
05:44 <hoax> @sd -v twist
05:44 <teabot> hoax: Twisted Rats Sewers [ Fortress ] ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080310 unix dedicated, url: http://tr.1c3d.net, Description: “// Standard sumo // Chill atmosphere // Contact apparition //“, Players (0/12):
05:44 <xfroggy> this is probably a stupid idea, but my couch recommended people another trick. Getting a straw and every time you get a craving just put it in ur mouth and play with it for a minute or two
05:44 <Lucifer> interesting that 8 out of 10 people that use fancy patches and stuff relapse
05:44 <hoax> doesnt show up on the master list right, & i cant even custom connect
05:44 <hoax> any ideas?
05:44 <hoax> xfroggy, u know why bc half of smoking is the habbit ^^
05:45 <Lucifer> last time I tried to quit, I had no craving based on "having something in my mouth"
05:45 <Lucifer> I got the flavor of the cigarette, rather the memory of the flavor, flooding my thoughts
05:45 <Lucifer> of course, now I'm reading that that's still the habit, part of my brain wants to light up and is trying to convince the rest of my brain to do it
05:45 <xfroggy> I think smoking is a different addiction to each person....one is addicted to smoking, one just having something in his mouth/hand, the other just part of a daily route probably
05:46 <xfroggy> routine*
05:46 <hoax> man stop talking about the flavour & shit lol
05:46 <hoax> oi lata nvm luke-jr
05:46 <luke-jr> hoax: why
05:46 <xfroggy> I had the biggest craving for cigarette during driving.....that was a worse part for me to get used to not driving and smoking lol
05:47 <xfroggy> to driving & not smoking* lol
05:47 <Lucifer> I want to buy a punching bag
05:47 <Lucifer> I think having something to hit would be very helpful
05:47 <xfroggy> are u gonna punch it or look at it lol
05:47 <Lucifer> any sort of intense desire can be dealt with by beating the shit out of something
05:48 <Lucifer> the problem is there's a definite lack of things to beat the shit out of, and what I have that I can beat the shit out of won't survive very long
05:48 <Lucifer> I'll see if freecycle can deliver
05:48 <xfroggy> might as well join gym
05:51 <xfroggy> whoa....
05:51 <xfroggy> RECHARGING? Some scientists wonder if the unconscious erections that occur when a man sleeps might be the body’s way of making sure oxygen levels in penile tissue stay high.
05:51 <luke-jr> xfroggy FAIL
05:51 <Lucifer> problem with the gym idea is that I need to be able to do *something* without leaving my kids home alone
05:52 <Lucifer> otherwise I'd just rely on my bike
05:52 <Lucifer> also, something my wife can take a turn on would be nice
05:52 <luke-jr> I wish KMail had a button for "Mark Message as Nonsense"
05:52 <xfroggy> hrm...how about pumpin iron at home
05:52 <Lucifer> no weights
05:53 <Lucifer> meaning, I don't have any weights :)
05:53 <Lucifer> also, no money
05:53 <Lucifer> it's one of those things where if we can quit for a month, we can afford whatever we needed to use to help quit
05:53 <Lucifer> but we can't take a loan on that
05:54 <Lucifer> maybe freecycle will have on.  They had a sink, after all.  ;)
05:55 <Lucifer> I said in my post that I want it to help me quit smoking, that'll probably help a lot to draw out someone who might have one laying around they never use, but are packratting
05:55 <xfroggy> whatever you do...dont replace it with eating habit lol
05:56 <xfroggy> quitting smoking usually ends up picking up another addictive habit...
05:56 <Lucifer> sex!!!!
05:56 <Lucifer> bbiab
05:56 <xfroggy> :D
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08:32 <Lucifer> It has been estimated that fewer than 5% of people who stop smoking using NRT gum are still using the gum over a year later.  <--- what they don't tell you is that 8 out of 10 of those people have relapsed to regular cigarettes and don't need the NRT
08:33 <Lucifer> the site that came form sells NRT products, so I probably shouldn't waste more time reading it
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13:39 <ivantis> bah
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15:11 <Armand_> Hello
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15:13 <K-Yo> hi Ar
15:13 <K-Yo> Armand_:
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15:22 <Monkey_arma> is beta.armagetronad.net down??
15:25 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
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15:54 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle http://itworksnowitmusthavebeentemporaryohandbtwctwfsucks.com
15:56 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: at least i gave you a valid link
15:59 <Monkey_arma> http://www.stfu.com/
16:05 <Monkey_arma> "valid" ;)
16:09 <epsy> and useful
16:14 <hoax> www.hai2u.com
16:15 <eddiefantastic> haha
16:15 <epsy> that..wasn't useful
16:15 <hoax> ROFL
16:16 <epsy> in other words, he just typed a random url
16:16 <epsy> (and now clicked on it)
16:17 <hoax> lmfao sure
16:23 <hoax> http://flashfabrica.com/f_learning/brain/brain.html
16:23 <hoax> click the no.s lowest to highest
16:23 <hoax> what do you get?
16:23  * eddiefantastic is scared to click on hoax's links
16:24 <hoax> lol sorry
16:24 <hoax> i thought monk might like it
16:24 <hoax> that one is legit
16:24 <hoax> xD
16:24  * ct|kyle waits for tank to look first
16:24 <epsy> haha
16:25 <hoax> that test didnt do my esteem very good
16:25 <hoax> since your peak brain age is like early 20s or smth
16:25 <hoax> meh not sure how it 100% works anywho
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16:58 <Lucifer> I scored 24
16:58 <Lucifer> is that good?
16:59 <hoax> yeah I guess
17:01 <hoax> i suck
17:01 <hoax> lol
17:01 <hoax> 3rd time lucky
17:03 <hoax> meh
17:03 <hoax> dumb test imo >.<
17:04 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i got a 31
17:05 <Lucifer> is that good?
17:05 <ct|kyle> after i figured out waht i had to do
17:05 <ct|kyle> i donno
17:05 <Lucifer> I couldn't read the japanese stuff that told me if it was any good
17:07 <hoax> well it's supposed to tell you your brain age...
17:08 <Lucifer> hmm, seems like there's somewhere around a maximum of 40 though
17:10 <hoax> LOL
17:10 <hoax> no
17:10 <hoax> :(
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17:18 <ct|kyle> have you tried http://flashfabrica.com/f_learning/brain4/brain4.html
17:21 <ct|kyle> 48 must be the best on that, i got them all right
17:21 <eddiefantastic> 41 and I got 2 wrong, you're too slow
17:22 <ct|kyle> it is a speed thing?
17:22 <eddiefantastic> gotta be
17:22 <eddiefantastic> either that or it takes into account imperfections ;)
17:23 <ct|kyle> btw eddiefantastic my python script is starting to work
17:23 <eddiefantastic> Coolio Englaisius
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17:28 <MaZuffeR> you guys suck, i got 20 on both tests
17:33 <hoax> jaja FUCK off MaZuffeR
17:33 <hoax> last time i post urls in here
17:33 <MaZuffeR> :P
17:34 <hoax> xD
17:43 <Lucifer> what am I supposed to do on the second test?
17:44 <MaZuffeR> click the one that differs from the others
17:46 <Lucifer> 42 on that one, then
17:47 <Lucifer> I got them all right, so if ct|kyle (hi there!) got 48, then there must also be a time element to the score
17:47 <ct|kyle> so i beat you all on both of them
17:47 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: note that beating someone on the internet is like beating them in the special olympics....
17:47 <hoax> second test eh?
17:48 <hoax> nah these tests are gay
17:49 <hoax> how come no one wanted to do my goat one
17:49 <hoax> http://www.howmanygoats.com/
17:50 <ct|kyle> heh i got a 29 that time and got them all right, i also thought i moved faster
17:51 <Lucifer> 9 out of 10
17:51 <Lucifer> Your goat worth is:
17:51 <Lucifer> 9/10. You're almost the coolest guy around!
17:51 <Lucifer> something tells me that's a bad score
17:52 <hoax> lmao
17:52 <hoax> higher the better
17:52 <hoax> marriage material
17:52 <Lucifer> oh wait, I get it, that's the number of goats my father in law should have given me
17:52 <hoax> although now you've said that it could be takin the piss
17:53 <hoax> oh
17:53 <hoax> yeah
17:53 <hoax> see higher the better
17:53 <ct|kyle> something tells me the lower the score the better
17:53 <Lucifer> well, I shoudl call him and ask for my goats
17:53 <hoax> I got 7
17:53 <ct|kyle> i think it is how long it takes you to complete it correctly
17:53 <hoax> ct|kyle get with the times..we on a new one now
17:53 <hoax> lol
17:55 <eddiefantastic> 10/10. Marriage material. George Clooney, is that you?
17:55 <Lucifer> probably only difference is you didn't answer that you're a student ;)
17:55 <hoax> all the guys that get 10 & 9 are lieing
17:55 <eddiefantastic> or live in Mom's basement
17:55 <hoax> or are already married
17:55 <hoax> lol
17:56 <ct|kyle> i was so bad it did not give me a score
17:56 <Lucifer> it was pretty easy to get a 10 out of 10 on it
17:57 <Lucifer> tests that are easy to game suck
17:57 <hoax> ive wanted a slurpee since i did that test yesterday
17:57  * Lucifer went through and only changed a few answers
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17:59 <eddiefantastic> I need tap water and old spice
17:59 <Lucifer> hmmm, I answered for my wife and only got 6 out of 10
17:59 <Lucifer> maybe I should have her do it herself
18:01 <Lucifer> I wanna puke.  It was yet another test that gives you choices, and none of the choices looked good for most of the questions
18:01 <Lucifer> those kinds of tests slightly annoy me :/
18:01 <ct|kyle> ya
18:08 <StickyNoob> "Do you live at home?" where am i supposed to live?
18:10 <eddiefantastic> that one got me thinking too
18:11 <StickyNoob> err what does 7/0 mean?
18:20 <Lucifer> yeah, took me a minute to figure out they meant "do you live with your parents?"
18:22 <Lucifer> I will be so glad of the opportunity to vote john cornyn out of office
18:24 <ct|kyle> it would be nice to know who McCain and Obama are taking as their running mate
18:34 <Lucifer> well, if one of them takes cornyn as their running mate, I won't vote for him
18:35 <ct|kyle> I'm not planning on voting for either of the 2
18:35 <Lucifer> I got on john cornyn's mailing list awhile ago, and now I get an email every now and then that basically says "Here's the problems we face in Texas, and here's how it's the Democrats' fault, and here's how I can say that and still claim to be bipartisan"
18:35 <ct|kyle> I joined bob barrs and most of them is how we should fight to get him on the ballets
18:36 <ct|kyle> or that we should donate
19:13 <Lucifer> I like bob barr actually
19:13 <Lucifer> but who am I to judge?  I like Nader too
19:13 <ct|kyle> heh
19:15 <Lucifer> when my wife gets home, I'm going to get two pencils and two pieces of paper and have her sit with me and write all the reasons she wants to quit smoking
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19:15 <Lucifer> the idea is that we'll take empty cigarette packs and put these papers in them
19:15 <ct|kyle> i think bob barr will do what he says and his main problem is that there is not much founding, he has only raised around 80,000 since the first of the month so he should be asking for money, especially when other candidates try to take him off of the state ballets
19:15 <StickyNoob> Lucifer: you ever given up smoking?
19:16 <Lucifer> the reason third parties can't get elected is because they *will* do what they say, and the special interests they serve are (for the most part) the people
19:16 <Lucifer> StickyNoob: I've gone a month before
19:16 <Lucifer> then relapsed
19:17 <StickyNoob> ahh right, just going to say asking a smoker to do these types of things when you have never been through it just kind of makes you resentful
19:17 <StickyNoob> atleast it did when people lectured me with great arguments like "why dont you just quit"
19:18 <Lucifer> er, I'm not trying to get her to quit alone, we're going to quit together
19:18 <StickyNoob> yeah
19:18 <Lucifer> Friday is the day, it's quitting day
19:18 <Lucifer> so I'm setting up for it :)
19:18 <StickyNoob> heh
19:18 <Lucifer> if we have half a carton of cigarettes on friday, I'm throwing it in the trash!
19:19 <Lucifer> so yeah, the reason there'll be *two* pieces of paper is because I'll write my reasons on one of them
19:20 <Lucifer> I'm considering getting a full pack and wrapping it up in packing tape and putting a paper wrapper with some more writing on it
19:20 <StickyNoob> i quit many time, its strange untill you literaly flick that switch in your head that says i will never smoke again, it just dosent seem to work
19:20 <Lucifer> you know, make it really hard to open, and put all sorts of reminders of what I should do
19:20 <Lucifer> I feel pretty sure I"ve flicked the switch, but I also know my own withdrawal is atypical
19:20 <Lucifer> otoh, I've been studying up on the physical effects and have all sorts of new information on how to compensate
19:21 <StickyNoob> i never found physical addicion all that bad, my problem was routine and habit, that was what i missed
19:22 <StickyNoob> it was just along the lines of, you walk out the door after work, you light up. you wait at the bus stop, you light up. sudenly not doing it was the most noticable loss
19:23 -!- luke-jr__ is now known as luke-jr
19:25 <Lucifer> well, it is a personal experience :)
19:26 <Lucifer> that month, it was the physical withdrawal
19:26 <Lucifer> I know that it took 2-3 days for all the nicotine to leave the body, then it's another 2-3 days for your body to make up the difference in terms of sugars and stuff
19:26 <Lucifer> but man, that second stage lasted several weeks
19:27 <Lucifer> with the psychological part, the part that triggers the cravings and irritability and quick anger (and I'm already quick to anger) going on the whole time,
19:27 <Lucifer> even though it was purely psychological after those several weeks, well, I failed that time
19:28 <Lucifer> this time will be different.  I'm armed with much more information than last time, and I have the benefit of knowing the pitfalls from last time
19:28 <Lucifer> there will be new pitfalls no doubt, but I'm working on the problem
19:28 <Lucifer> hopefully I'll be ready by Friday.
19:31 <StickyNoob> it was a very bizzare sense of morality that finaly made me quit
19:33 <StickyNoob> when applying to rent a flat one of the questions on the form was if i was a smoker. i knew from previous conversations that answering yes would mean i would be rejected. so i put no, but then with my guilt complex I couldnt flat out lie, so since filling outh the form i havnt smoked
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19:49 <Lucifer> Punching bags are used for boxing and marital arts workouts in gyms and in homes  <--- most unfortunate typo ever
19:53 <epsy> ct|kyle, nice way of promoting your servers: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_984.png :D
19:53 <ct|kyle> epsy: :)
19:54 <ct|kyle> that is what happens when SIGHUP does not kill tron
19:54 <epsy> hahahahahaha
19:54 <ct|kyle> epsy: that was yesterday right?
19:54 <epsy> no
19:54 <epsy> just now
19:54 <ct|kyle> wtf
19:55 <ct|kyle> no
19:55 <ct|kyle> can't be
19:55 <epsy> see the dates
19:55 <ct|kyle> it is only running once
19:55 <epsy> running != in master list
19:55 <ct|kyle> it went in master list a lot yesterday
19:56 <ct|kyle> most should be dead
19:56 <ct|kyle> all but 1
20:01 <Lucifer> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/latest_poll_reveals_430_new
20:03 <ct|kyle> i think i saw that already
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20:34 <hoax> G5_, here?
20:34 <G5_> yeah?
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20:44 <Monkey_arma> ns info G5_
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21:37 <ivantis> lol
21:37 <ivantis> what is this? se_AdminLogin_ReallyOnlyCallFromChatKTHNXBYE
21:37 <ivantis> did z-man do that in the original or did someone else add that?
21:37 <ivantis> its in ePlayer.cpp for /login
21:37 <ivantis> KTHNXBYE
21:38 <epsy> doodz, you already told us 5 times about this line, stfu now
21:38 <ivantis> i did?
21:38 <ivantis> no i didnt
21:38 <ivantis> i dont remember it
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21:50 <GodTodd> man...i should have overseeded the lawn last weekend :/
21:59 <P4> remove tronner's ban or ban *bot too, this is a discrimination! :þ
22:00 <hoax> yeah :D
22:01 <Monkey_arma> tronner sucks
22:01 <Monkey_arma> :0
22:02 <epsy> @aol tronner sucks
22:02 <Monkey_arma> where the f*** is armabot?
22:02 <teabot> epsy: tronner sucks:-D:-D:-D
22:02 <Monkey_arma> that the hell is teabot? is that ivantis' bot?
22:02 <Monkey_arma> fricken ljrbot...
22:02 <epsy> hopefully not
22:02 <Monkey_arma> what has happened to this channel jeez
22:03 <epsy> Monkey_arma, a channel is about people, not bots
22:03 <Monkey_arma> oh so you dont use armabot
22:03 <Monkey_arma> hrmmf
22:03 <hoax> armabot, tronner, ljrbot..then teabot is the order of greatness....right epsy? :-D:-D:-D
22:04 <ct|kyle> #g the answer to life the universe and everything
22:04  * ct|kyle agrees with hoax
22:04 <ct|kyle> well
22:05 <epsy> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc
22:05 <teabot> epsy: The number of seconds Durka can stay online on irc = 30
22:05 <ct|kyle> thre is not much different in ljrbot and teabot
22:05 <hoax> no except epsy is gay -.-
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22:06 <epsy> bye P4 :O
22:06 <ct|kyle> and luke-jr ia an asshat what is the difference
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22:06 <ct|kyle> is*
22:06 <hoax> :D
22:06 <hoax> Lucifer unban tronner ftw
22:07 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: tronner has been potty trained unlike ivanbot and teabot and ljrbot
22:08 <epsy> teabot is perfectly trained
22:08 <ivantis> ivanbot is better
22:08 <epsy> better than tronner
22:08 <ct|kyle> LIES
22:08 <epsy> ct|kyle, proof:
22:08 <epsy> @echo $randomNick
22:08 <teabot> someone
22:08 <ivantis> what a noob
22:08 <epsy> ]echo @ping
22:08 <ljrbot> @ping
22:08 <hoax> ROFL ivanbot
22:09 <ivantis> he is better
22:09 <epsy> yeah he's better for doing botloops
22:09 <hoax> what do you need a bot for?
22:09 <epsy> botloops
22:09 <ivantis> being a noob
22:09 <hoax> great answer
22:09 <hoax> that's the first step
22:09 <ivantis> no, for seeing whos on a server
22:10 <ivantis> and other pointless aliases
22:10 <hoax> so what's armabot for oO
22:10 <ivantis> idk
22:10 <hoax> I thought you wern't chatting with us idiots anyway
22:10 <epsy> Roflcopter xD
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22:33 <Lucifer> I thought tronner was unbanned a long time ago
22:52  * ivantis had a weird idea
22:53 <ivantis> a zone, that when entered, spawns another zone
22:53 <P4> …and disappears
22:54 <ivantis> maybe
22:54  * P4 silences ivantis
22:54 <epsy> Roflcopter xD
22:54 <ivantis> why?
22:54 <epsy> ivantis, shh, u got pwnt
22:55  * ivantis is working on the idea right now
22:56 <ivantis> i figured out how to execute a command in source
22:56 <ivantis> ownt
22:56 <epsy> lol?
22:56 <epsy> @man system
22:56 <teabot> epsy: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=system&exact=1
22:57 <ivantis> no
22:57 <ivantis> i mean in arma source
22:58 <epsy> system() works as soon as you include <stdlib.h>
22:58 <ivantis> no
22:58 <ivantis> an arma command
22:58 <epsy> call the function that's linked from the tConfItemFunc ?
22:58 <ivantis> yes
22:58 <ivantis> something like that
22:59 <ivantis> more like tConfItemBase::LoadLine(stream);
22:59 <ivantis> is what im using
22:59 <epsy> lol -.-
22:59 <epsy> that's not really meant to be used that way
23:00 <ivantis> well, it works
23:00 <epsy> mkay..it's utter-crappy but..it works
23:01 <ivantis> its the one for /admin
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23:01 <epsy> it's not meant to be called from anything else than consoles
23:01 <ivantis> yeah
23:01 <ivantis> whatever
23:01 <ivantis> shush
23:01 <epsy> so it's crap :)
23:02 <ivantis> ba
23:02 <ivantis> h
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23:03 <ivantis> im making targets spawn a death zone somewhere else
23:03  * epsy got a wonderful idea
23:04 <epsy> make a zone that pops a dz at the same place when you enter it
23:04 <ivantis> what?
23:04 <epsy> damn useful :D
23:04 <ivantis> i've done that
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23:04 <ivantis> just now
23:05 <ivantis> custom connect: armaserver.space-lab.us:4537 to see the magic
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23:18 <Monkey_arma> make a zone thats starts to move away just as you are about to conquer it ...make it go roughly the same speed as the player ...teasing them
23:18 <ivantis> how?
23:19 <ivantis> oh, right when you hit it
23:19 <epsy> Monkey_arma, http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/
23:19 <ivantis> i get it
23:19 <epsy> wait
23:19 <epsy> Monkey_arma, more like: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=464
23:20 <ivantis> epsy: is target->Player()->ListID() to get the player ID?
23:20 <epsy> 1/ make sure to know wtf is target
23:20 <epsy> don't tell me it's a pointer
23:20 <epsy> i know that :P
23:21 <ivantis> its in the block of code when a player enters a target zone
23:21 <ivantis> i think it is the player
23:21 <ivantis> well, at least target->Player() is
23:21 <epsy> i guessed that
23:21 <ct|kyle> ivantis: i thought you were going to read that C++ book not just skim it
23:21 <epsy> wtf is target, give me a type name
23:21 <ivantis> well, i was
23:22 <ivantis> idk, how can i tell?
23:22 <epsy> scroll up
23:22 <epsy> look
23:22 <ivantis> hold on...
23:22 <epsy> and understand
23:22 <ivantis> understand what?
23:23 <ivantis> i dont get it
23:23 <epsy> understand what you're looking at
23:23 <ivantis> oh
23:23 <ivantis> void gTargetZoneHack::OnEnter(gCycle * target, REAL time )
23:23 <epsy> woot
23:23 <ivantis> gCycle is target i guess
23:24 <epsy> little correction: pointer to a gCycle ;)
23:24 <ivantis> so what is the variable that is the player name or player ID
23:24 <ivantis> of target-> something
23:25 <epsy> gCycle is an nNetObject
23:25 <epsy> Owner()
23:25 <ivantis> oh right
23:25 <ivantis> so target->Owner() is the player name?
23:25 <epsy> i suppose you mean client ID and not player ID
23:25 <epsy> no
23:25 <ivantis> huh?
23:25 <ivantis> well then what is it?
23:27 <ivantis> look, i just want to know how to find what player entered the zone
23:27 <ivantis> by name or player ID
23:27 <epsy> hm, look at how death by deathzone messages are done
23:27 <epsy> also, http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/doxy/html/
23:27 <ivantis> ok
23:28 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/doxy/html/classgDeathZoneHack.html#611ae7ab395489bcacd00c0760211a03
23:28 <epsy> 00714     target->Player()->AddScore(score_deathzone, tOutput(), "$player_lose_suicide");
23:28 <ivantis> ooh, this?
23:28 <ivantis> ePlayerNetID::FilterName(target->Player()->GetUserName())
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23:28 <ivantis> is that it?
23:29 <epsy> you will get his user name like that, not sure that's what you want
23:29 <epsy> ->GetColoredName ?
23:29 <ivantis> well, thats all i need
23:30 <epsy> wtf are you doing with this? Oo
23:30 <ivantis> hold on...
23:30 <ct|kyle> o0
23:30 <ct|kyle> compile error
23:30 <epsy> an username is, by definition, filtered by ePlayerNetID::FilterName
23:31 <ivantis> hold on...
23:31 <ivantis> waiting
23:31 <ct|kyle> boom
23:31 <ivantis> no boom yet
23:34 <ivantis> this will be really cool if it works
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23:37 <ivantis> dangit
23:37 <ivantis> didnt work
23:37 <ivantis> but, i was trying to do the teleport thing
23:37 <ivantis> remember that from your server kyle?
23:37 <ivantis> but didnt work
23:44 <ivantis> this might work
23:50 <ivantis> ok, now this should work
23:51 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron
23:54 <ivantis> epsy: how can i record gametime?
23:55 <epsy> ?
23:56 <ivantis> like how could i record se_GameTime() to use later?
23:56 <ivantis> and the variable i assigned it to would be the same as it was before
23:57 <epsy> ivantis, did you ever hold anything of programming?
23:57 <ivantis> ?
23:57 <ivantis> no i didnt

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