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Log from 2008-07-30:
--- Day changed Wed Jul 30 2008
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00:13 <sithy> #help
00:13 <armabot> sithy: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
00:13 <sithy> #showcommands
00:13 <sithy> #help im a noob
00:14 <armabot> sithy: Error: There is no command "im a noob".
00:14 <Monkey_arma> #list
00:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
00:14 <sithy> :)
00:14 <Monkey_arma> #help alias
00:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: There is no command "alias".
00:14 <sithy> #help freshmeat
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00:14 <armabot> sithy: (freshmeat <project name>) -- Returns Freshmeat data about a given project.
00:14 <Monkey_arma> #list alias
00:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, (4 more messages)
00:14 <sithy> #help weather
00:14 <Monkey_arma> #more
00:14 <armabot> sithy: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
00:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma: die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, epicfail, epsy, eroulette, f, fail, fastfood, fight, finc, fink, flashyy, flex's, flex'sepitaph, fofo, fortune, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, ivantis, (3 more messages)
00:15 <Monkey_arma> #more
00:15 <armabot> Monkey_arma: jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, lock, log, log, ls, luke, lukejr, lukejrwork, lukejrworks, m, mail, man, mcalc, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, n00b, nano, new, night, no, noob, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, p4, pacman, path, path2, peek, phail, pingme, (2 more messages)
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00:15 <Monkey_arma> #more
00:15 <sithy> #weather paris, france
00:15 <armabot> Monkey_arma: pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, pwn, q, quot, r, raaaaaaape, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, roulotte, rules, r‭oulette, sd, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, si, sing, skill, slap, smoke, speed, ss, stalk, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, test, (1 more message)
00:15 <Monkey_arma> #more
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00:15 <armabot> Monkey_arma: testing, tg, thank, the, thing, toast, tst4, tst5, tstservers, ty, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wanna, wannafight?, wc, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wikipediamonkey, wild, wing, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, wut, ww, x, xd, yay, ying, ys, and ‭
00:15 <armabot> sithy: The current temperature in Paris, France is 69.8°F (12:00 AM CEST on July 30, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
00:15 <Monkey_arma> there u go
00:15 <sithy> hehehe
00:15 <sithy> imperial metrics T_T
00:16 <sithy> #help conver
00:16 <armabot> sithy: Error: There is no command "conver".
00:16 <sithy> #help convert
00:16 <armabot> sithy: (convert [<number>] <unit> to <other unit>) -- Converts from <unit> to <other unit>. If number isn't given, it defaults to 1. For unit information, see 'units' command.
00:16 <sithy> #convert 70 fahrenheit to celsius
00:16 <armabot> sithy: Error: fahrenheit is not a valid unit.
00:16 <sithy> :/
00:17 <sithy> #convert 70 f to c
00:17 <armabot> sithy: Error: f is not a valid unit.
00:17 <sithy> #help bugsubmit
00:17 <ct|kyle> #g 70 Fahrenheit to Celsius
00:17 <armabot> sithy: Error: There is no command "bugsubmit".
00:17 <armabot> ct|kyle: 70 degrees Fahrenheit = 21.1111111 degrees Celsius
00:17 <sithy> hehe
00:17 <ct|kyle> pwnt
00:17 <Monkey_arma> #convert 70 F to C
00:17 <ct|kyle> LOL
00:17 <armabot> Monkey_arma: 21.1111111111
00:17 <sithy> pfffft :p
00:18 <ct|kyle> #finc 70
00:18 <armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
00:18 <ct|kyle> lol
00:18 <sithy> #wisdom
00:18 <epsy> lol
00:18 <epsy> #help wisdom
00:18 <armabot> epsy: (wisdom <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron]".
00:18 <epsy> heh
00:18 <ct|kyle> #help finc
00:18 <armabot> ct|kyle: (finc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo You don't need this, just use Math convert".
00:18 <epsy> gonna take a while
00:19 <sithy> idd
00:19 <epsy> #markov #armagetron
00:20 <sithy> #whoareyou
00:20 <armabot> sithy: What do you think?
00:20 <epsy> #eliza why are you stupid
00:20 <armabot> epsy: Is it because are me stupid that you came to me?
00:20 <epsy> lol :D
00:20 <epsy> #eliza yes
00:20 <armabot> epsy: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
00:20 <sithy> #uname
00:20 <epsy> #eliza i love stupid people
00:20 <armabot> epsy: Please, describe your relationship with stupid people.
00:20 <sithy> #help uname
00:21 <armabot> sithy: Error: There is no command "uname".
00:21 <epsy> #eliza sexual relationships
00:21 <armabot> epsy: Why do you say sexual relationships?
00:21 <epsy> :|
00:21 <sithy> :/
00:21 <sithy> #eliza I drink alot
00:21 <epsy> imagine a second, that everyone would talk like that to you
00:21 <armabot> sithy: Why do you say you drink alot?
00:21 <sithy> #eliza because of epsy
00:21 <epsy> say that its true
00:21 <armabot> sithy: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
00:22 <sithy> #eliza yes
00:22 <armabot> sithy: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
00:22 <epsy> :|
00:22 <sithy> :|
00:22 <sithy> #eliza stfu plzthx
00:22 <armabot> sithy: Why do you say stfu plzthx?
00:22 <sithy> #eliza kthxbai
00:22 <armabot> sithy: Can you elaborate on that?
00:23 <sithy> #roulette
00:23 <armabot> sithy: *click*
00:23 <sithy> hihi
00:23 <sithy> #roulotte
00:23 <armabot> sithy: *click*
00:24 <sithy> #wannafight?
00:24 <armabot> You startin? dont f*ckin start on me mate, I'm a hard ass nutter. I'm a little bit woah....a little bit weah...I'm a geeza. Come on then son, let's do it.......BANG....'av it, get in. Whose the daddy? * I AM *
00:24 <sithy> lolz
00:24 <sithy> #lies
00:24 <armabot> sithy: http://uncyclopedia.org/
00:25 <sithy> #goodnight
00:25 <armabot> Goodnight, sithy
00:25 <epsy> it has an article about arma :P
00:25 <sithy> o rly? :D
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00:29 <sithy> Fortress: In Fortress there are 2 teams of players who use their walls to build fortresses resembling Medieval castles, complete with Turrets, Moats, Boiling Oil and Peasant Hangings. The team that builds the most historically accurate representation of a 14th century Northern European Castle wins and gets 10 points.
00:30 <epsy> no need to quote half of that article, we know about it :P
00:33 <sithy> haha that was hilarious
00:33 <sithy> love the pic of the "homo getting lost"
00:33 <epsy> hah
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05:48 <Lucifer> so, my wife, trying to find a way for me to build a rocket without having to get KNO3 looks up amateur rocketry on wikipedia and finds...
05:48 <Lucifer> ...Rocket Candy!
05:48 <Lucifer> (which is sugar + KNO3, the very thing I'm trying to build)
05:51 <ct|kyle> #ctwf
05:51 <armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (3/14): ct¤ky13, KyuubiVamp|gZ, Z-Man
05:53 <ct|kyle> i'm having fun harassing this faker
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10:34 <Nano1> #ls d'z nuts
10:34 <armabot> Nano1: timed out
10:34 <Nano1> lol
10:34 <Nano1> #ls deez nuts
10:34 <armabot> Nano1: ~*420MikeadeezE has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 hour 30 minutes ago.
10:34 <Nano1> ? lol
10:35 <Nano1> #ls my toes
10:35 <armabot> Nano1: (52) MY NAME has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) 35 minutes ago.
10:35 <Nano1> #aka 007
10:35 <armabot> Nano1: ¿3687 brendon_has_$$ oo7
10:35 <Nano1> #aka Bruce Wayne
10:35 <armabot> Nano1: I don't know anything about 'bruce_wayne'!
10:36 <Nano1> #aka Clark Kent
10:36 <armabot> Nano1: I don't know anything about 'clark_kent'!
10:37 <Nano1> #aka not being a douche
10:37 <armabot> Nano1: I don't know anything about 'not_being_a_douche'!
10:37 <Nano1> rofl
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12:05 <epsy> #help action
12:05 <armabot> epsy: (action <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "/me $*".
12:05 <epsy> #help ls
12:05 <armabot> epsy: (ls <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "lastseen $1".
12:05 <epsy> #alias add ls lastseen $*
12:05 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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12:10 <K-Yo> #help /me
12:10 <armabot> K-Yo: (/me <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo ACTION $*".
12:10 <K-Yo> help echo action
12:11 <K-Yo> #apropos action
12:11 <armabot> K-Yo: action
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16:10 <Pathetique> ...
16:10 <Pathetique> I don't like how the new 0.3.0 branch limits the number of characters you can have in an instachat.
16:13 <Monkey_arma> it does oO
16:13 <Monkey_arma> are you sure?
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16:17 <Pathetique> I mean
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16:17 <Pathetique> I compiled my own version of 0.3.0 with 50 instant chats because I can't type INCLUDE blahblah.cfg fast enough for comfort.
16:18 <epsy> actually it depends on the server you're in
16:18 <Pathetique> hmm...what if I'm not in a server, and am just in the menu?
16:18 <epsy> it's on its default value
16:18 <epsy> 80
16:19 <Pathetique> So using SPAM_MAXLEN 200 on the console doesn't do shit?
16:19 <epsy> maybe
16:20 <Pathetique> lulz
16:20 <Pathetique> If I'm in a local game after doing that it works
16:20 <Pathetique> lol @ my noobery
16:22 <Monkey_arma> ^^
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16:23 <Monkey_arma> http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/690994.html
16:23 <Monkey_arma> lol@kyle
16:24 <epsy> hah
16:24 <epsy> ct|kyle: Booo!
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16:34 <Monkey_arma> ok i finally finished it.
16:34 <Monkey_arma> #flex
16:34 <armabot> There was a new soldier named Flex, who used to play tron in clan |x|, they thought he was barmy, not fit for the army and so they just used him for sex.
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16:41 <Flex> #alias remove flex
16:41 <armabot> Flex: The operation succeeded.
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16:42 <Flex> check your inbox Monkey_arma
16:42 <Monkey_arma> oO
16:42 <Monkey_arma> which one?
16:42 <Monkey_arma> forums?
16:42 <Flex> your main one
16:42 <Monkey_arma> mail?
16:42 <Flex> yeahyeah
16:42 <Monkey_arma> kk
16:45 <Monkey_arma> i have no new messages anywhere..
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16:45 <Monkey_arma> you fucker why did u remove flex?
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17:26 <Pathetique> :o!
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17:44 <Pathetique> Hi Lucifer :)
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17:45 <ivantis> odd
17:45 <ivantis> i think my internet went out
17:46 <ivantis> and my irc connection timed out, i didnt identify and was renamed to ivantis_
17:46 <Pathetique> lulz
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18:01 <ivantis> cafe is back up?
18:01 <ivantis> #tea
18:01 <armabot> ivantis: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
18:01 <ivantis> aw
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18:16 <epsy> ivantis, /msg nickserv help identify
18:16 <ivantis> i did
18:17 <epsy> -NickServ-     /msg NickServ IDENTIFY foo
18:17 <epsy> -NickServ-     /msg NickServ IDENTIFY jilles foo
18:17 <epsy> -NickServ- Syntax: IDENTIFY <nick> <password>
18:17 <ivantis> but when i was asleep, it reconnected and i wasnt there to identify
18:17 <Monkey_arma> set your client to do it automatically
18:17 <epsy> ..lol
18:18 <ivantis> how?
18:18 <ivantis> on xchat?
18:18 <epsy> duh that makefil reformatting was awful
18:18 <epsy> on xchat it's even easy
18:18 <ivantis> how then? i cant find it
18:18 <epsy> well, open your eyes
18:18 <epsy> networks list -> freenode -> edit
18:18 <epsy> there you go
18:20 <Monkey_arma> ivantis put your nickserv password in the box
18:20 <ivantis> oh ok
18:20 <Monkey_arma> if you still have trouble then you can add some commands for when it joins
18:20 <Monkey_arma> it should be fine tho
18:21 <epsy> well, put nickname<space>password
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18:21 <epsy> instead of just password
18:21 <Monkey_arma> er
18:21 <ivantis> o
18:21 <ivantis> k
18:21 <ivantis> got it
18:21 <Monkey_arma> i dont do that
18:22 <Monkey_arma> i put nick in the global nick section in "network list"
18:22 <ivantis> how do i get an account with armabot?
18:22 <epsy> Monkey_arma, <epsy> -NickServ- Syntax: IDENTIFY <nick> <password>
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18:22 <epsy> xchat doesnt make use of <nick>
18:22 <Monkey_arma> oh you dont need to do that epsy
18:23 <Monkey_arma> the nickserv password box should identify each time with  that nick
18:23 <Monkey_arma> why put nick there too?
18:23 <epsy> if, because my connection got pwnt or for whatever reason there will still be someone named epsy when i connect, yes i will need it
18:23 <G5_> Is nickserv broken or what?
18:23 <Monkey_arma> so you mean u put that in the command box, not in the nickserv password box
18:23 <epsy> it works fine in ns passw box too
18:24 <Monkey_arma> oh i didnt know
18:24 <epsy> you know it's just appending that to /msg nickserv identify
18:24 <Monkey_arma> also you could put ghost ...etc but hey
18:24 <epsy> :)
18:24 <Monkey_arma> ah ok
18:24 <Monkey_arma> :)
18:24 <Monkey_arma> er...
18:24 <epsy> the problem with ghost is that it wont be instant
18:24 <Flex> G5
18:24 <Flex> here?
18:25 <Monkey_arma> but surely if you put your nick in the global box it will do the same!
18:25 <epsy> no
18:25 <G5_> Yeah ... but "G5 is already in use"  WTF?
18:25 <Monkey_arma> g5 /msg nickserv help ghost
18:25 <Flex> ghost
18:25 <Flex> hey G5 can you message CruZ
18:25 <Flex> need to ask him something
18:25 <epsy> cruz aint online
18:26 <Flex> how do you know?
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18:26 <Monkey_arma> so epsy if i put my pass in nickserv pass and my nick in the global section....it goes against your theory of using /msg nickserve identify <contents_of_nickserv_password_box>
18:26 <ivantis> G5_: i have had that problem before, it doesnt show it in clients list, /whois <nick> returns nothing, and it says still in use
18:26 <epsy> because i have him on my buddy list?
18:26 <Flex> which client?
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18:26 <ivantis> me?
18:26 <epsy> client? pidgin
18:26 <ivantis> G5_: i have had that problem before, it doesnt show it in clients list, /whois <nick> returns nothing, and it says still in use*
18:26 <Flex> they speak on skype or something
18:27 <Monkey_arma> G5_ /msg nickserv ghost G5 <PASSWORD>
18:27 <epsy> erm, there IS someone using G5 right now
18:27 <Flex> [17:25] <Monkey_arma> g5 /msg nickserv help ghost
18:27 <G5_> Monkey_arma: I did that
18:27 <ivantis> pidgin? barf, i dont like pidgin, it freezes too much
18:27 <Flex> [17:25] <Monkey_arma> g5 /msg nickserv ghost <password>
18:27 <Monkey_arma> G5_ /msg nickserv ghost G5 <PASSWORD>
18:27 <epsy> * [G5] (n=Group5-G@k3.natout.cs.aau.dk): Group5-GDC
18:27 <epsy> * [G5] ##gdc08
18:27 <epsy> * [G5] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
18:27 <epsy> * [g5] Fin de la liste WHOIS.
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18:28 <epsy> Monkey_arma, what xchat does when there's a password in the NickServ password field is SIMPLY doing this at start /msg nickserv identify <whatsinthatfield>
18:29 <G5> Better now  (after second attempt) ... I did nothing different:(
18:29 <epsy> it DOESN'T do this: /msg nickserv identify <nick> <password>
18:29 <epsy> G5, there was a guy named G5
18:29 <Monkey_arma> hmm ok
18:30 <Monkey_arma> g5 put nick protection:
18:30 <G5> epsy: I understood ... but ghosting didnt work the 1st time (but nickserv said it had worked ... strange)
18:30 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv set private on
18:30 <epsy> maybe that guy reconnected" instantly"
18:30 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv help set
18:30 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv set enforce on
18:30 <Monkey_arma> those 2
18:30 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv set private on
18:30 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv set enforce on
18:31 <epsy> yeah, those two
18:31 <epsy>  /msg nickserv set private on
18:31 <epsy>  /msg nickserv set enforce on
18:31 <Monkey_arma> <epsy> yeah, those two
18:31 <Monkey_arma> <epsy>  /msg nickserv set private on
18:31 <Monkey_arma> <epsy>  /msg nickserv set enforce on
18:31 <epsy> <Monkey_arma> <epsy> yeah, those two
18:31 <epsy> <Monkey_arma> <epsy>  /msg nickserv set private on
18:31 <epsy> <Monkey_arma> <epsy>  /msg nickserv set enforce on
18:31 <G5> Ok, both on now
18:31  * Monkey_arma stops
18:31 <G5> Thx
18:31 <epsy> <epsy> <Monkey_arma> <epsy>  /msg nickserv set private on
18:31 <epsy> <epsy> <Monkey_arma> <epsy>  /msg nickserv set enforce on
18:31 <epsy> < e p s y >   < M o n k e y _ a r m a >   < e p s y >   y e a h ,   t h o s e   t w o
18:31 <epsy> ew
18:31 <G5> epsy: possible
18:44 <Monkey_arma> can we have some testers for G5's fort server please
18:44 <Monkey_arma> its looking very good even pings
18:49 <ivantis> guess my game: what MAME game am i playing right now?
18:49 <ivantis> starts with a G
18:52 <epsy> Google!
18:52 <epsy> #sd G5
18:52 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “g5” at the moment, sorry.
18:53 <epsy> Monkey_arma, server name? >.<
18:53 <ivantis> Google?
18:53 <ivantis> no no no
18:54 <ivantis> Ghosts and Goblins
19:04  * ivantis is away: not chatting with you idiots
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19:24 <akira_arma> http://climatecops.com/
19:24 <akira_arma> http://climatecops.com/
19:24 <akira_arma> oops
19:24 <akira_arma> O.o
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20:41 <Lucifer> #dict inconsiderate
20:41 <armabot> Lucifer: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: inconsiderate adj 1: lacking regard for the rights or feelings of others; "shockingly inconsiderate behavior" [ant: {considerate}] 2: without proper consideration or reflection; "slovenly inconsiderate reasoning"; "unconsidered words"; "prejudice is the holding of unconsidered opinions" [syn: {unconsidered}]; gcide: Inconsiderate (6 more messages)
20:41 <Lucifer> #more
20:41 <armabot> Lucifer: \In`con*sid"er*ate\, a. [L. inconsideratus. See {In-} not, and {Considerate}.] [1913 Webster] 1. Not considerate; not attentive to safety or to propriety; not regarding the rights or feelings of others; hasty; careless; thoughtless; heedless; as, the young are generally inconsiderate; inconsiderate conduct. [1913 Webster] It is a very unhappy token of our corruption, that there should be (5 more messages)
20:42 <Lucifer> #more
20:42 <armabot> Lucifer: any so inconsiderate among us as to sacrifice morality to politics. --Addison. [1913 Webster] 2. Inconsiderable. [Obs.] --E. Terry. Syn: Thoughtless; inattentive; inadvertent; heedless; negligent; improvident; careless; imprudent; indiscreet; incautious; injudicious; rash; hasty. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 108 Moby Thesaurus words for "inconsiderate": airy, arbitrary, boorish, brash, (4 more messages)
20:42 <Lucifer> #more
20:42 <armabot> Lucifer: caddish, capricious, careless, casual, coarse, crude, cursory, degage, disregardant, disregardful, easygoing, flippant, forgetful, free and easy, hasty, heedless, hotheaded, ill-advised, ill-bred, ill-considered, ill-contrived, ill-devised, ill-gauged, ill-judged, impolitic, imprudent, inadvertent, inadvisable, incautious, indifferent, indiscreet, inexpedient, injudicious, insensate, (3 more messages)
20:42 <Lucifer> #more
20:42 <armabot> Lucifer: insensitive, insouciant, intolerant, irrational, lazy, loutish, louty, madcap, mindless, misadvised, misguided, myopic, nasty, oblivious, offensive, offhand, perfunctory, rash, reasonless, reckless, regardless, respectless, rude, senseless, sharp, shortsighted, tactless, thoughtless, unaccommodating, unadvised, uncalculating, uncaring, unceremonious, uncomplaisant, unconcerned, (2 more messages)
20:43 <Lucifer> #dict avarice
20:43 <armabot> Lucifer: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: avarice n 1: reprehensible acquisitiveness; insatiable desire for wealth (personified as one of the deadly sins) [syn: {greed}, {covetousness}, {rapacity}, {avaritia}] 2: extreme greed for material wealth [syn: {avariciousness}, {covetousness}, {cupidity}]; gcide: Avarice \Av"a*rice\ ([a^]v"[.a]*r[i^]s), n. [F. avaritia, fr. avarus (4 more messages)
20:44 <Lucifer> #more
20:44 <armabot> Lucifer: avaricious, prob. fr. av[=e]re to covet, fr. a root av to satiate one's self: cf. Gr. 'a`menai, 'a^sai, to satiate, Skr. av to satiate one's self, rejoice, protect.] 1. An excessive or inordinate desire of gain; greediness for wealth; covetousness; cupidity. [1913 Webster] To desire money for its own sake, and in order to hoard it up, is avarice. --Beattie. [1913 Webster] 2. An inordinate (3 more messages)
20:44 <Lucifer> #more
20:44 <armabot> Lucifer: desire for some supposed good. [1913 Webster] All are taught an avarice of praise. --Goldsmith. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 68 Moby Thesaurus words for "avarice": acedia, acquisitiveness, anger, avariciousness, avaritia, avidity, avidness, cheapness, closefistedness, closeness, covetousness, craving, cupidity, deadly sin, desire, envy, frenzy of desire, frugality, fury of desire, (2 more messages)
20:44 <Lucifer> #more
20:44 <armabot> Lucifer: gluttony, grasping, graspingness, greed, greediness, gula, hardfistedness, hoarding, hoggishness, illiberality, incontinence, inordinate desire, insatiability, insatiable desire, intemperateness, invidia, ira, itching palm, lust, luxuria, meanness, miserliness, nearness, niggardliness, overgreediness, parsimoniousness, parsimony, penny-pinching, penuriousness, piggishness, pride, (1 more message)
20:44 <Lucifer> oooo, I like hoggishness
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20:46 <epsy> i almost thought that was #list alias
20:47 <Lucifer> ?  the synonyms for avarice?  ;)
20:48 <epsy> *almost* :)
20:49 <epsy> made half my day reformatting src/Makefile.am from arma
20:49 <epsy> made it so there was only 2 files per line, then i see what ph did for the zone stuff
20:50 <epsy> so i made it the same way all around
20:50 <epsy> until i realized that vim was always using real tabs for makefiles
20:50 <epsy> *ew*
20:51 <luke-jr> what kind of retard would use fake tabs?
20:52 <epsy> anyone who's doing something else than indenting lines?
20:52 <luke-jr> then you don't use tabs at all
20:53 <epsy> i usually use my tab key for putting 4 spaces
20:53 <luke-jr> that's screwed up
20:53 <epsy> ok i will press space 4 time each time now
20:53 <Lucifer> I think I like that word, hoggishness
20:54 <Lucifer> I have kate setup to replace tabs with spaces
20:55 <epsy> somehow vim was setup to NOT expand tabs in makefiles
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20:55 <luke-jr> tabs should always stay tabs
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20:57 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer me too with tab to spaces...I just need to read more about vim (which i am currently doing)
20:57 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr no no no tabs < spaces
20:57 <luke-jr> tabs != spaces
20:57 <Lucifer> grrr, I just realized that I didn't properly separate the themes in my first two paragraphs, so they read exactly the same :(
20:57 <luke-jr> tabs are for indenting
20:57  * Lucifer hates writing papers
20:58 <luke-jr> spaces are for … word breaks
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20:58 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr tabs are for indenting BUT it is better to convert them after wards to spaces for consistency.
20:58 <luke-jr> no
20:59 <Monkey_arma> ya
20:59 <luke-jr> indenting should always be tabs
20:59 <luke-jr> consistently tabs
21:00 <epsy> i agree, indenting is the job of tabs
21:00 <epsy> that's about it
21:00 <epsy> rest => spaces
21:00 <Monkey_arma> BUT then they should be converted to spaces
21:00 <epsy> what would be the purpose of using tabs?
21:00 <Monkey_arma> faster than spaces
21:00 <Monkey_arma> they align automatically
21:00 <epsy> when i say indenting i don't mean aligning stuff
21:00 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: converting them to spaces breaks it
21:01 <Monkey_arma> on the whole more apps show code consistently as spaces than tabs
21:01 <epsy> 	tron/gSparks.h              tron/gSparks.cpp                \
21:01 <epsy> 	tron/gSpawn.h               tron/gSpawn.cpp                 \
21:01 <Monkey_arma> take "view source" on web browsers
21:01 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: wrong
21:02 <luke-jr> epsy: that would be a case for spaces ☺
21:02 <Monkey_arma> how can spaces not be shown consistently?
21:02 <epsy> yep, except for the first chat of both lines
21:02 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: spaces ignore preferences
21:02 <luke-jr> not everyone likes the same indent width
21:03 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr anyone with an editor can automatically convert initial spaces to tab
21:03 <luke-jr> it shouldn't be necessary
21:03 <Monkey_arma> there is even a unix command for it
21:03 <luke-jr> and it isn't a simple process
21:03 <Monkey_arma> expand and unexpand
21:03 <Monkey_arma> pfft lol
21:03 <luke-jr> it would require context
21:03 <luke-jr> to determine what is indenting and what is aligning
21:04 <Monkey_arma> are you an emacs fan by any chance?
21:04 <luke-jr> for example, lines like this: <tab><tab><40x space>// foobar
21:04 <luke-jr> no
21:04 <Monkey_arma> vim?
21:04 <luke-jr> not especially
21:04 <Monkey_arma> then gfto
21:05 <luke-jr> u
21:05 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: how would you automate turning <56x space> into <2x tab><40x space>?
21:05 <luke-jr> how can you determine the correct amounts to convert?
21:05 <luke-jr> programmaticly
21:06 <Monkey_arma> ?
21:06 <Monkey_arma> why both tabs and spaces?
21:06 <luke-jr> see, you don't have a clue
21:06 <epsy> indenting vs aligning
21:06 <Monkey_arma> ye i dot
21:06 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr even expand and unexpand can deal with just the initial spaces/tabs
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21:08 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org
21:08 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/monkey.c
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21:10 <Monkey_arma> and?????
21:10 <Monkey_arma> whats your point?
21:10 <luke-jr> please auto"expand" and unexpand that properly
21:10 <luke-jr> kthx
21:11 <Monkey_arma> you mean the spaces after the tabs in the initial lines
21:11 <Monkey_arma> are you saying vim cant do that? lol
21:11 <Monkey_arma> gtfo
21:12 <Monkey_arma> i will even see if unexpand and expand can
21:12 <Monkey_arma> wait a sec
21:12 <luke-jr> I'm saying you can't automate that output from mere spaces
21:13 <Monkey_arma> so you are saying if i convert the initial tabs to spaces i cant convert them back to tabs?
21:13 <luke-jr> and these are text/c-source, not text/vim-file
21:13 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: right
21:13 <Monkey_arma> vim can do that
21:13 <luke-jr> oh?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> as for unexpand and expand im checking now
21:13 <luke-jr> how can it determine which spaces were tabs originally?
21:13 <epsy> :u \o/
21:13 <Monkey_arma> what editor do u use luke?
21:13 <luke-jr> Kate or KWrite usually
21:14 <Monkey_arma> the LOL LOL
21:14 <Monkey_arma> KDE ft...... L
21:14 <luke-jr> editors are editors
21:14 <luke-jr> KDE ftw
21:15 <Monkey_arma> epsy...correct him plase
21:15 <luke-jr> KDE has no peer
21:15 <Monkey_arma> <luke-jr> editors are editors
21:15 <Monkey_arma> how do i save that as a quote?
21:15 <epsy> editors are NOT editors!
21:15 <luke-jr> you don't
21:15 <luke-jr> ok ok fine
21:15 <luke-jr> the emacs "editor" is an OS
21:15 <luke-jr> not an editor
21:15 <luke-jr> but otherwise
21:15 <epsy> lol
21:15 <luke-jr> editors are still editors
21:16 <Monkey_arma> vim >>>> kate and chums
21:16 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: kate can embed vim
21:16 <luke-jr> so f u
21:16 <Monkey_arma> embed vim lmao
21:16 <Monkey_arma> why not use vim?
21:16 <luke-jr> because I like a GUI
21:16 <Monkey_arma> ok lemme check unexpand etc
21:16 <epsy> it like you can embed firefox within ulteo (or w/e) within firefox
21:16 <Monkey_arma> ....GVIM
21:17 <luke-jr> G* sucks
21:17 <epsy> kVim ftw!
21:17 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf is the point?
21:17 <epsy> actually none
21:17 <luke-jr> what does kVim do that Kate can't?
21:17 <luke-jr> lol
21:17 <Monkey_arma> er...shit loads?
21:17 <epsy> hmm shit loads
21:18 <luke-jr> epsy: even when the competing Kate uses a vim kpart?
21:19 <Monkey_arma> so basically kate can just use vim and call itself kate...er lol
21:19 <epsy> :D
21:19 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: it's still Kate
21:19 <Monkey_arma> well its bs
21:19 <Monkey_arma> kate should be kate in kate mode
21:20 <Monkey_arma> do you use kate in vim embed or w/e mode?
21:20 <epsy> bno, he uses kate in konqueror mode!
21:21 <epsy> #eliza how to patch kde 3.5 under freebsd ?
21:21 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
21:21 <epsy> :(
21:21 <epsy> er wops
21:21 <epsy> #eliza how to patch kde 3.2 under freebsd ?
21:21 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
21:21 <epsy> maybe it works better
21:21 <epsy> ah, er, no
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21:27 <Lucifer> #eliza what should we do with epsy?  Should we eat him or treat him?
21:27 <armabot> Lucifer: Why do you say that?
21:27 <Lucifer> #eliza because it's a real problem we have to solve
21:27 <armabot> Lucifer: Is it because it's a real problem you have to solve that you came to me?
21:27 <Lucifer> #eliza no, I came to you because I was bored
21:27 <armabot> Lucifer: Is it because you were bored that you came to me?
21:27 <Lucifer> #eliza yes
21:27 <armabot> Lucifer: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
21:28 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr guess what btw, unexpand CAN convert that .c file back to how it was lmao
21:28 <Lucifer> #dict chastise
21:28 <armabot> Lucifer: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: chastise v : censure severely; "She chastised him for his insensitive remarks" [syn: {castigate}, {objurgate}, {chasten}, {correct}]; moby-thes: 46 Moby Thesaurus words for "chastise": admonish, baste, beat, belabor, berate, birch, bring to account, bring to book, call to account, cane, castigate, censure, chasten, chide, correct, deal (4 more messages)
21:29 <Lucifer> nvm, indictment is the word I wanted
21:34 <Monkey_arma> also one more point is that if you use tabs to indent but spaces to align, then if you change tab size, the stuff will not be aligned anymore
21:34 <epsy> er
21:34 <Monkey_arma> *may*
21:34 <epsy> if you use spaces for aligning and tabs for indenting, it WONT screw up when you change tab size
21:34 <epsy> that's the whole point of it
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21:42 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: I doubt it. Post the file output
21:43  * Pathetique is 668.5
21:43 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Kate doesn't have its own "mode"
21:43 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy i said it wrong...you misunderstood
21:43 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Kate embeds kparts
21:44 <epsy> so basically you can run konqueror in kate?
21:44 <Monkey_arma> im saying that EVEN if you use spaces for aligning the aligning *may* fuck up...if you use tabs for aligning it *will* fuck up ...ok?
21:44 <epsy> yes
21:44 <luke-jr> epsy: in theory
21:44 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr use unexpand --tabs=8
21:45 <epsy> well if you use spaces to align on different indenting levels it's likely to fuck up
21:45 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: if you use spaces for aligning and tabs for indenting, it will work fine
21:45 <Monkey_arma> first do expand
21:45 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: post the output
21:45 <epsy> but normally you're not really supposed to do that :P
21:45 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr if you use spaces for aligning the aligning *may* fuck up  MAY MAY MAY
21:45 <luke-jr> bet it's not the same
21:45 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: impossible :D
21:46 <epsy> if you remove a space it would be fucked up, ha!
21:46 <luke-jr> epsy: that's cheating
21:46 <epsy> onoz
21:47  * luke-jr turns Monkey_arma into a roll of duct tape so he can be useful.
21:50 <Monkey_arma> well it seems that unexpands can't quite do it...but its a basic command
21:50 <Monkey_arma> vim can
21:50 <Monkey_arma> and any decent editor can
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21:57 <Monkey_arma> to be fair to you though, tabs are not terrible..i guess some use tabs and some spaces...anyway enough
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22:30  * ivantis is back (gone 03:25:45)
22:30 <ivantis> i was gone 3 hours?
22:30 <ivantis> goodness
22:31 <ct|kyle> ivantis: we told you not to announce that
22:35 <ivantis> you did
22:35 <ivantis> ?
22:36 <ivantis> ok, i turned off "announce away" in xhcat
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23:38 <guru3> z-man: thanks! http://guru3.net/temp/landgen-3d-withtext.png <-- ive borrowed the armagetron font! xD
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23:44 <K-Yo> #armaservers
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: This data is 19 seconds old; SPACEZONE III (11/15), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (10/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), [ omGroup.de ][ Team Sumo Server ][ #2 ] (7/16), SPACEZONE II S (7/15), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), |gZ Clan Server (6/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a (1 more message)
23:44 <K-Yo> #si m o
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “m o” at the moment, sorry.
23:44 <K-Yo> #si m s
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: Wild West  =Team Sumo=: Players (10/14): .dBd|Pathetique, .dEm<~ntc, C$ -C>, Monkey, MonkMan, National Rail, pear, Wise Old Man, ~{\¢ock, ~|DS|~PhantoM~
23:44 <K-Yo> #si group
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: [ omGroup.de ][ Team Sumo Server ][ #2 ]: Players (7/16): CtxWoned, ~*SP*~inSanity, ~*SP*~viper~, ~>Tp.DaWg, ~>Tp.Rain, ~>Tp.Sp33D, ¦×¦ Liza
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