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Log from 2008-07-12:
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00:51 <ivantis_away> man, you guys have barely talked since i was gone
00:51 <Pathetique> indeed
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00:51 <ivantis> i went to the pool
00:53 <Pathetique> Cool
00:54 <ivantis> hmm
00:54 <ivantis> know what? i gotta go again
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00:54 <ivantis_away> for real
00:54 <ivantis_away> later
00:54 <ivantis_away> probably not back on until tomorow
00:55 <Pathetique> lolbye
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04:41 <FoFo> hey judd :)
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04:50 <Judders> heya fofo :)
04:51 <Judders> this is all very exciting :)
04:54 <FoFo> :p
04:56 <Monkey_arma> yes irc is for newcomers
05:11 <ct|kyle> #si flower
05:11 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flower” at the moment, sorry.
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06:09 <hoax> that's because trucks are shit Lucifer
06:15 <luke-jr> just like him
06:17 <Pathetique> o.o
06:22 <Pathetique> Holy shit there's a lot of lines in ePlayer.cpp
06:39 <Pathetique> luke-jr: how important is "config_common.h"?
06:43 <luke-jr> never heard of it
06:43 <Pathetique> Its related to the particle system...
06:44 <Pathetique> It doesn't exist in the source.
06:44 <Pathetique> lol
06:45 <Pathetique> Hmmm...xcode is having trouble with anything that calls on tLocale.h
06:45 <Pathetique> woohooo
06:45 <Pathetique> 10000 errors and counting on this compile run
06:46 <Pathetique> it sez
06:46 <Pathetique> error: variable 'std::istringstream stream' has initializer but incomplete type
06:46 <luke-jr> Pathetique: stfu
06:46 <Pathetique> o.o
06:47 <Pathetique> No need to be a douchebag, luke. I'll search for help elsewhere.
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06:57 <FoFo> gn
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08:16 <Pathetique> Hello joda :)
08:22 <Pathetique> wtf
08:22 <Pathetique> in my copy of the source
08:22 <Pathetique> it calls for an nAuthentication.cpp and .h, as well as a nAuthentification.cpp and .h
08:24 <luke-jr> Pathetique: so fix your copy
08:27 <Pathetique> ¬.¬
08:39 <Pathetique> If you don't have anything constructive to say (anything that resembles or could be taken as "Pathetique: read the fucking manual"), then please don't respond.
08:49 <joda_bot> Pathetique: which version are you trying to compile ?
08:49 <joda_bot> where did you get the data from, and which OS / compiler do you use ?
08:49 <Pathetique> 0.2.8-auth, Mac OS X 10.5, Xcode.
08:50 <joda_bot> ah, ok I guess nemosultae is the person to ask about Xcode / Mac OS X
08:50 <joda_bot> haven't looked at those Mac OS in ages
08:50 <Pathetique> Perhaps you might recognize the error I'm getting? :S
08:51 <joda_bot> Yeah, I think you can just remove the nAuthentification files from the project
08:51 <joda_bot> as they are no longer required as far as I can recall
08:51 <joda_bot> atleast that is worth a try
08:51 <Pathetique> Indeed, I did. And then fixed the rest of it.
08:51 <joda_bot> but ?
08:51 <Pathetique> By removing all references/#includes
08:52 <Pathetique> but
08:52 <Pathetique> I keep getting build errors
08:52 <joda_bot> ok which ones ?
08:52 <joda_bot> are nAuthentification cpp and h empty ?
08:52 <Pathetique> Linking issues..."eVoter::HandleChat(ePlayerNetID*, std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&)", referenced from:
08:52 <Pathetique> handle_chat(nMessage&)     in ePlayer.o
08:53 <Pathetique> symbol(s) not found
08:53 <Pathetique> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
08:54 <joda_bot> try cleaning the project
08:54 <joda_bot> if you get linking errors
08:54 <joda_bot> or recompile everything :-)
08:54 <Pathetique> I get warnings when I clean...Warning: The Copy Bundle Resources build phase contains this target's Info.plist file '../src/macosx/Info.plist'.
08:55 <joda_bot> no idea about that ... does it ask you if you want to continue ?
08:55 <joda_bot> otherwise I'd ignore it
08:55 <Pathetique> It says Clean Succeeded.
08:57 <Pathetique> It starts compiling everything just fine until it has to link...I don't quite understand what that involves, but I know it gets an error in reference to eVoter
08:58 <joda_bot> the earlier error, is the best thing to look at
08:58 <joda_bot> the XCode files might fail to compile eVoter.cpp / eVoter.h
08:58 <joda_bot> if one of the mentioned files is not in the project, then add it to make XCode compile that file
08:58 <Pathetique> It seems to only be a ppc build issue...lol
08:58 <joda_bot> but I'm not sure how the build process is structured
08:59 <joda_bot> aha, how so ?
08:59 <Pathetique> I dunnnno
08:59 <Pathetique> But it has--nvm
09:01 <Pathetique> found the line that causes the problem...I made a slight modification to ePlayer.cpp
09:01 <Pathetique> I defined a new chat command
09:01 <Pathetique>  /mod
09:01 <Pathetique> I thought that mods using /admin to do their mod stuff was sloppy or something
09:02 <Pathetique> But uhm, perhaps that caused the issue? Either way, I commented out the /vote and /callvote commands
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09:06 <joda_bot> and it does work now ?
09:07 <Pathetique> holy crap
09:07 <Pathetique> Great Success.
09:07 <Pathetique> Only warnings are about s_topSourceDir being defined in tDirectories.cpp but not being used
09:07 <Pathetique> lol
09:08 <joda_bot> but if you want to make new "admin" commands talk to epsy and/or wrtlprnft, because as far as I know there is already a way to define moderator access permission
09:08 <Pathetique> oh yes
09:08 <Pathetique> ACCESS_LEVEL
09:09 <Pathetique> Lets see if this works first, though. lol
09:09 <joda_bot> ok, good luck
09:09 <joda_bot> :-)
09:09 <Pathetique> ty
09:10 <joda_bot> I'm out now :-)
09:10 <Pathetique> Thanks for the help. :)
09:10 <joda_bot> ah if you don't know about that site, it might help you
09:10 <joda_bot> https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad
09:11 <joda_bot> because that is where the latest developments are put, some of those branches are not on sourceforge, but the main parts are in sync with sourceforge
09:11 <Pathetique> Indeed. :)
09:11 <joda_bot> ok
09:11 <Pathetique> Thanks so much. cu
09:25 <Pathetique> hmmm
09:25 <Pathetique> Internal Error: Internal error in static tLanguage* tLanguage::FindStrict(const tString&) in /Users/evannelson/armagetronad-svn-branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/MacOS/../src/tools/tLocale.cpp:150 :
09:25 <Pathetique>  	Language British English not found.
09:25 <Pathetique> Please send a Bug report!
09:25 <Pathetique> :S
09:37 <Pathetique> #ls nano
09:37 <armabot> Pathetique: |AQ|=SuperNano= has last been seen on Norm's Place 4 hours 26 minutes ago.
09:38 <Pathetique> #ls .dbd|nano
09:38 <armabot> Pathetique: timed out
09:38 <Pathetique> lol
09:39 <joda_bot> Pathetique: I guess the above error message comes from not putting all neccessary files into the build directory
09:39 <joda_bot> on mac os x I don't know how language.txt.in files are transformed to language.txt files... on linux it's done by configure/autoconf
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10:41 <Pathetique> #ls sine
10:41 <armabot> Pathetique: -=}ID< sine.wav seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
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10:45 <Pathetique> #ls sine
10:45 <armabot> Pathetique: -=}ID< sine.wav seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
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16:39 <ivantis> 4
16:39 <wrtlprnft> 5
16:39 <ivantis> 3
16:39 <ivantis> 2
16:39 <ivantis> 1
16:39 <ivantis> `
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16:53 <pippijn> anna: hi
16:53 <anna> Hello there.
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17:05 <K-Yo> hi anna
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17:57 <Pathetique> #shuffle Path My Humps my humps my humps my lovely lady lumps check it out I drive these f***ers crazy I do it by the daily
17:57 <armabot> Pathetique: I lady My it daily my lovely drive Path the humps f***ers lumps my Humps I by out crazy my humps do check these it
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18:14 <Pathetique> Hi Liz!
18:20 <Lizmatic> hey path
18:21 <ivantis> #help shuffle
18:21 <armabot> ivantis: (shuffle <arg> [<arg> ...]) -- Shuffles the arguments given it.
18:21 <ivantis> #shuffle 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
18:21 <armabot> ivantis: 1 5 10 3 4 2 7 8 9 6
18:22 <Lizmatic> #tea
18:22 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:30 <ivantis> whats up with the forums?
18:31 <ivantis> it says 500 internal server error
18:31 <ivantis> guru3:
18:31 <ivantis> youre in charge of the forums right? whatssa matter with them?
18:33 <guru3> mm
18:36 <guru3> it was hit by yahoo slurp
18:36 <ivantis> ?
18:36 <guru3> the yahoo search engine web crawler
18:36 <ivantis> oh
18:36 <guru3> went through crawling the site
18:36 <guru3> and killed it for a bit
18:36 <ivantis> thats stupid
18:36 <guru3> or so it seems
18:38 <ivantis> all right
18:38 <ivantis> it sback up
18:39 <Pathetique> guru, forgot to put a robots.txt up to avert it form whoring so much bandwidth?
18:40 <guru3> oh bandwith isn't a problem
18:40 <Pathetique> Overloaded the CPU, then?
18:40 <guru3> we've got bandwith to serve pages like diarhea
18:40 <Pathetique> LOL
18:40 <ivantis> how much disk space does the forums take up
18:40 <guru3> just it's shared hosting so...
18:40 <guru3> hmmm
18:40 <guru3> 2gb or so now
18:41 <ivantis> thats not that much
18:41 <ivantis> for all of that
18:41 <guru3> ahahaha that's huge for a forum
18:41 <ivantis> well arma is huge
18:41 <Pathetique> Considering that's all text.
18:41 <Pathetique> For the most part.
18:41 <ivantis> well yes
18:41 <ivantis> i only have 65 GB left on my 75 GB harddrive
18:42 <ivantis> including ubuntu OS
18:42 <Pathetique> ...
18:42 <Pathetique> LOL
18:42 <guru3> actually most of that is uploads
18:42 <guru3> the text bit isn't more than 100mb or so
18:42 <ivantis> o
18:42 <Pathetique> *has 20.33 GB left on his 160 GB/really 148GB hard drive*
18:42 <ivantis> goodness
18:42 <Pathetique> mmmmmmmmmmmhm
18:42 <ivantis> what do you store on that?
18:43 <ivantis> lots of your porn
18:43 <Pathetique> And it would be 6 left if I didn't delete that 10 days of music from iTunes by accident
18:43 <Pathetique> No, that goes on the external hard drive, ivantis. LOL!
18:43 <Pathetique> I'm a packrat.
18:43 <ivantis> so am i
18:43 <Pathetique> That, and I have final cut studio on this.
18:43 <ivantis> i keep everthing
18:43 <Pathetique> Final Cut Studio takes up a good 50 GB.
18:43 <ivantis> specially on my mac, you cant see my desktop background
18:44 <Pathetique> lol
18:44 <Pathetique> I had that problem
18:44 <Pathetique> Desktop Curtain ftw
18:44 <ivantis> i put all of it in a folder, and it got cluttered again
18:44 <ivantis> 403 Desktop items total
18:44 <Pathetique> Desktop Curtain ftw
18:44 <ivantis> whats Destkop curtain
18:44 <ivantis> ?
18:44 <Pathetique> look it up
18:44 <Pathetique> lolol
18:45 <ivantis> #google desktop curtain
18:45 <armabot> ivantis: Search took 0.16 seconds: Many Tricks · Desktop Curtain: <http://www.manytricks.com/desktopcurtain/>; Desktop Curtain 1.1 - MacUpdate: <http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17728>; Desktop Curtain 1.1 software download - Mac OS X - VersionTracker: <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/26396>; Universal Binary of Desktop Curtain optimized for Leopard @ prMac: (3 more messages)
18:45 <Pathetique> manytricks
18:45 <Pathetique> go to that one
18:45 <ivantis> what does it do? im not using my mac rihgt now
18:45 <Pathetique> ...
18:45 <Pathetique> Go to the manytricks.com link.
18:45 <ivantis> k
18:45 <Pathetique> It will explain what it does there.
18:46 <ivantis> oh
18:46 <ivantis> i dont really need it
18:46 <ivantis> i just have a blue bg
18:46 <Pathetique> noob
18:46 <Pathetique> It makes you feel less cluttered
18:46 <Pathetique> LOL!
18:46 <ivantis> not to me
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18:48 <ivantis> hello z-man
18:50 <z-man> that code of yours should be something along the lines of "if (!target->Vulnerable()) ..."
18:50 <ivantis> oh
18:50 <Pathetique> :o
18:50 <ivantis> ill check it
18:50 <Pathetique> I got a quick question...
18:53 <Pathetique> I compiled a copy of the dedicated server with a minor modification just for my learning purposes.
18:53 <Pathetique> I added a /mod command for moderators to use on the server, mainly because I thought moderators using /admin is kind of sloppy.
18:53 <ivantis> what file?
18:53 <Pathetique> So when I run said dedicated server, I get the following error: Internal Error: Internal error in static tLanguage* tLanguage::FindStrict(const tString&) in /Users/evannelson/armagetronad-svn-branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/MacOS/../src/tools/tLocale.cpp:150 :
18:53 <Pathetique>  	Language British English not found.
18:53 <Pathetique> Please send a Bug report!
18:54 <ivantis> oh
18:54 <ivantis> when you ran the server, you werent in the right directory
18:54 <Pathetique> o.o
18:55 <ivantis> cd into the directory that language and config and all is in, and run the server from there
18:55 <Pathetique> I ran it both from Terminal and from Xcode
18:55 <Pathetique> oic
18:55 <ivantis> in the terminal
18:55 <ivantis> i used to have that problem with os x too
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18:56 <ivantis> all right
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18:56 <ivantis> it worked with !target->Vulnerable
18:56 <Pathetique> motherfucking iDefrag.
18:57 <Pathetique> Forgot I set it to send the computer to sleep when it is done defragging.
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18:57 <Pathetique> hmmm
18:57 <Pathetique> I see what you mean, ivantis.
18:57 <ivantis> did it work?
18:57 <Pathetique> Perhaps making a dedicated release would solve this without me having to copy and paste all over.
18:57 <Pathetique> lol
18:59 <Pathetique> z-man: did you see the final posts on the iPhone 3G thread?
19:01 <z-man> Probably, let me check. What about it?
19:01 <Pathetique> I can summarize what I posted, if you like.
19:02 <z-man> The last one was the 3/4th of a circle drawing.
19:02 <Pathetique> oh yeah, lol
19:02 <Pathetique> ok, well, I think it was voodoo who said he was compiling it for use with the OpenGL ES?
19:04 <z-man> Maybe. OpenGL ES is complicated and will be a hell to port to, probably.
19:04 <z-man> We're using immediate mode almost exclusively.
19:05 <Pathetique> Indeed. As soon as I realized how much needed to be ported, I thought, "Oh fuck, I have a lot to learn..." but hopefully someone with more experience could do it, which is why I was happy to see that someone else took up the idea and was working on it.
19:09 <ivantis> i
19:09 <ivantis> io
19:09 <ivantis> well, the invulnerable thing doesnt work
19:10 <ivantis> it works if SHOT_KILL_SELF is on so you cant shoot yourself when invulnerable
19:10 <ivantis> but not for other players
19:10 <z-man> Then you put the condition into the wrong place :)
19:10 <ivantis> probably, thats what i was thinking
19:12 <z-man> Why a special channel?
19:12 <ivantis> idk
19:12 <ivantis> luke-jr started it
19:14 <Pathetique> z-man: if I create a new chat command in ePlayer.cpp, do I have to do something for it in tLocale.cpp--wait, I have to add the entry for each new message in the language files.
19:14 <Pathetique> <--- lolnoob
19:15 <ivantis> all right! it works, thanks z-man
19:16 <z-man> Np, I didn't do a thing :)
19:16 <Pathetique> lol
19:16 <ivantis> well, you helped me with the object
19:16 <ivantis> im not good at referals like that
19:16 <Pathetique> You're better than I am, and you're 13.
19:17 <Pathetique> Don't be too hard on yourself.
19:17 <Pathetique> :P
19:18 <Pathetique> z-man: another random question. If I change the version ID requirements for a command such as CYCLE_WIDTH from 14 to 13, would that cause lag/bugginess on the client end of things if I had CYCLE_WIDTH enabled?
19:18 <ivantis> what?
19:19 <ivantis> oh
19:19 <ivantis> it wouldnt be so good with client prediction
19:19 <ivantis> i think
19:21 <Pathetique> ummm
19:21 <Pathetique> lol
19:22 <ivantis> armagetron is great
19:23 <ivantis> ive learned everything (besides 2 chapters in a really stupid book) about C++ i know from it
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19:24 <luke-jr> ivantis: pfft, don't blame me; you're the one who wanted a new channel
19:25 <ivantis> but you registered it
19:26 <ivantis> what does cycle_width do anyway?
19:26 <ivantis> pathetique
19:27 <Pathetique> Basically, if you try to go between two walls that are close, it checks to see if the distance between the walls is bigger than the value specified for CYCLE_WIDTH.
19:27 <ivantis> oh yeah
19:27 <Pathetique> If it isn't, then as you pass through it, you burn rubber.
19:27 <ivantis> now i remember
19:27 <ivantis> as well as how close you are to other walls than your own
19:28 <Pathetique> indeed.
19:28 <ivantis> your cycle will tilt
19:28 <ivantis> sometiems
19:28 <Pathetique> wut?
19:28 <Pathetique> I think that is just something that is programmed into the game...I didn't know it was able to change...
19:28 <ivantis> come to nanos playground, you can see it there
19:28 <Pathetique> in a minute...I'm doing language file stuff.
19:29 <ivantis> boring
19:29 <ivantis> i hate the language file, all my commands will be undocumented
19:29 <Pathetique> noob
19:30 <Pathetique> its always best to document what you do.
19:30 <Pathetique> :P
19:36 <Lizmatic> #tea
19:36 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): JS, SpeeD (speedx@forums), ~|DS|~zion
19:40 <ivantis> hey
19:40 <ivantis> ppl
19:40 <ivantis> i had a good
19:40 <ivantis> idea
19:40 <ivantis> pathetique
19:41 <Pathetique> (try and use complete sentences in single messages lol)
19:41 <ivantis> o
19:41 <ivantis> k
19:41 <ivantis> lo
19:41 <ivantis> l
19:41 <ivantis> now, my idea, CYCLE_BRAKE_WALL_SHRINK
19:41 <ivantis> just like CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK, but when you press brake
19:42 <Pathetique> It would have to be available both server-side and client-side.
19:42 <ivantis> nonsense
19:42 <ivantis> the server bosses the client enough to make it work
19:43 <Pathetique> Otherwise, like my idea with the cycle_booster thing being a chat command like /boost would create lag.
19:43 <ivantis> only brain lag
19:43 <Pathetique> no, it would cause sync issues.
19:43 <ivantis> i dont think so
19:43 <Pathetique> Because the client would sync with the server
19:43 <ivantis> only on prediction
19:44 <Pathetique> and the server would say, your wall is this long, but the client would say, no, its this long, and yes, ultimately the server wins, but it would cause a fair number of bugs...
19:44 <Pathetique> Not to mention not the most pleasant instantaneous wall length changes depending on whether someone is braking or not
19:45 <ivantis> but you could turn it off
19:45 <Pathetique> Turn what off? The brake wall shrink?
19:45 <ivantis> anyway, CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK is in group bumpy
19:45 <Pathetique> Or prediction?
19:45 <ivantis> turn the brake wall shrink off
19:45 <ivantis> its in group bumpy because it gets a little bit bumpy
19:46 <ivantis> i think
19:47 <Pathetique> oic
19:47 <ivantis> and CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH can be sent to the client any time and it changes intantly
19:47 <Pathetique> but that doesn't change dependent on someone brakign
19:47 <ivantis> i know
19:48 <Pathetique> I mean, yeah its doable.
19:48 <Pathetique> Take the flag that is triggered whenever you brake...and have a conditional statement that shrinks the wall if "CYCLE_BRAKE_WALL_SHRINK" has a value other than 0.
19:49 <ivantis> luke-jr: i played at your MCP attack server a couple times, on team red, for going through walls, do you use something like invulnerability so it sets if the cycle is on team red?
19:52 <ivantis> Pathetique: yes, i quote from gCycle.cpp for CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK: "if ( sg_cycleRubberWallShrink >= 0 || sg_rubberCycle < 0 )"
19:56 <ivantis> bah, this looks to complicated
19:57 <Pathetique> lol
19:57 <ivantis> i give u
19:57 <ivantis> p
19:57 <Pathetique> don't give up
19:57 <ivantis> on that one
19:57 <Pathetique> don't give up
19:58 <ivantis> ok
19:58 <ivantis> ill just put it off
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20:03 <ivantis> z-man
20:04 <ivantis> i need more help
20:04 <z-man> with what?
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20:04 <maks_> hello
20:04 <ivantis> is there a simple way (specifically in the file engine/ePlayer.cpp) to check if a player exists and return the full name? i cant figure it out from the /msg
20:04 <maks_> why speak
20:04 <maks_> russian ?
20:05 <z-man> player->GetName() ?
20:05 <ivantis> ok, ill try that
20:05 <maks_> ej
20:05 <ivantis> like player->GetName( "<part of the name>" )?
20:06 <z-man> Err, no.
20:06 <z-man> Do you want the name of a player or the player with a specific name?
20:06 <Pathetique> Здравствулте! maks. Добро пожаловать к каналу irc Armagetron предварительному.
20:07 <ivantis> i want it to return a players full name with a part of a name search
20:07 <ivantis> like in /msg <part of a name>
20:07 <ivantis> it returns the full name somehow
20:07 <z-man> Find the player with ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName()
20:07 <z-man> then, if the return value is not NULL, use ->GetName() on it.
20:08 <ivantis> how does it take input?
20:08 <Pathetique> Maks?
20:09 <z-man> Umm, Find...() takes the substring you're looking for, plus the player requesting the information (the one issuing the chat command, presumably)
20:09 <z-man> and GetName() takes no further input.
20:10 <ivantis> so in ePlayer.cpp, in a chat command, add ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName()?
20:10 <ivantis> and then an if to see if it is NULL,
20:11 <Pathetique> Я огорченн если я обидел вас, то, maks. Я использую переводчика.
20:11 <ivantis> i see after the comment check for player...
20:11 <Pathetique> lololol
20:12 <ivantis> ePlayerNetID * receiver =  se_FindPlayerInChatCommand( p, "/msg", s );
20:12 <z-man> You can use that, too. That also handles the extraction of the player name from the chat string.
20:14 <ivantis> so what is the variable that is the full players name now?
20:14 <ivantis> s?
20:15 <maks_>  <Pathetique
20:16 <ivantis> oh
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20:16 <ivantis> it makes it receiver
20:16 <ivantis> hey kidanger
20:17 <kidanger> hey ivantis !
20:19 <z-man> ivantis: receiver->GetName().
20:19 <ivantis> yeah
20:19 <ivantis> i get it now
20:21 <ivantis> z-man
20:21 <ivantis> it didnt give any errors, but now it returns it as 0
20:22 <ivantis> colored like the players name is
20:22 <kidanger> ivantis:  http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18549 , nice commands !
20:22 <ivantis> ?
20:22 <ivantis> ah yes
20:22 <ivantis> why tank you
20:27 <ivantis> oh
20:27 <ivantis> i realize, it needs a *
20:27 <Pathetique> what does a * do in a situation like that, ivantis?
20:28 <ivantis> idk
20:28 <ivantis> but its in a lot of others
20:29 <Pathetique> LOL
20:31 <ivantis> oops
20:31 <ivantis> it worked for a sec, but if you enter a nonexistant name, it crashes the server
20:32 <Pathetique> lol
20:32 <ivantis> im putting in an if statment
20:32 <ivantis> so it wont
20:32 <Pathetique> indeed
20:32 <ivantis> yes, good idea eh?
20:33 <Pathetique> yes
20:34 <ivantis> fixed it
20:35 <ivantis> but now it has an extra whitespace
20:35 <ivantis> hmm
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20:38  * Lizmatic loves the weekend
20:38 <Lizmatic> doing nothing.. ahhh...
20:38 <Pathetique> lol
20:39 <Pathetique> #bone Lizmatic
20:39 <Pathetique> lol
20:39 <Pathetique> doesn't exist
20:39  * ivantis loves the weekend too
20:39  * ivantis but also has to go
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20:41 <Lizmatic> you can add it :p
20:41 <Flex> orly?
20:41 <Lizmatic> idk how,i suck at codes
20:41 <Lizmatic> yarly
20:41 <Flex> #flex
20:41 <armabot> hello
20:42 <Pathetique> #epsy
20:42 <armabot> Pathetique, do we really need an alias to put YAY in capitals and append an exclamation mark to it?
20:42 <Lizmatic> sav I'm staying up to 2am, I'm playing in the ww sumo tourny :p
20:42 <Pathetique> When is that, btw?
20:42 <Lizmatic> www.lagtest.net more info there
20:42 <Lizmatic> in ctf (:S) tourny section
20:43 <Lizmatic> its 2am for me hehe
20:43 <Flex> if it's sumo tourny, why is it in the ctf tourny section :o
20:44 <Pathetique> yay, I'm in same server as you liz
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20:53 <ivantis> wait
20:53 <ivantis> theres a tourney today?
20:54 <Pathetique> yes
20:54 <Pathetique> sumo tourney
20:54 <ivantis> oh
20:54 <ivantis> i want a ctf tourney
20:54 <ivantis> whens the next one of those?
20:55 <Lizmatic> ctf is for noobs
20:56 <Lizmatic> and flex idk its just in that section :P theyre stupid i guess
21:18 <ivantis> hey
21:18 <ivantis> pathetique
21:18 <ivantis> do you know where help topics are stored?
21:18 <ivantis> is it in language or something
21:18 <Pathetique> um
21:18 <Pathetique> yeah
21:18 <Pathetique> I found them before
21:19 <Pathetique> I think it was like
21:19 <Pathetique> ePlayer, or something.
21:19 <Pathetique> no
21:20 <Pathetique> iunno
21:20 <ivantis> no
21:20 <ivantis> its kept
21:20 <ivantis> on the disk, out of the source
21:20 <ivantis> because you can add them
21:20 <ivantis> after compiling
21:20 <ivantis>  /admin ADD_HELP_TOPIC
21:20 <Pathetique> I dunno
21:20 <Pathetique> yes
21:20 <Pathetique> but you can also compile it with them
21:21 <ivantis> hm
21:21 <madmax> help topics are in the .cfg afaik
21:21 <ivantis> what .cfg?
21:22 <ivantis> no, i just found em: theyre kept in english_base.txt
21:22 <ivantis> in language
21:22 <Pathetique> Yeah
21:22 <Pathetique> But if you make additional ones there
21:22 <Pathetique> it won't show up on the server
21:23 <ivantis> not until you restart the server
21:23 <Pathetique> ...
21:23 <Pathetique> duh
21:23 <Pathetique> I know that much.
21:23 <Pathetique> And I know that they won't show.
21:23 <Pathetique> Just trust me.
21:23 <ivantis> unless you add to an existing one
21:23 <Pathetique> Which is silly.
21:23 <Pathetique> Hold on
21:23 <madmax> I thought you were talking about the actuall commands per server...
21:24 <Pathetique> I'm finding it.
21:24 <madmax> -l
21:27 <Pathetique> I dunno
21:27 <Pathetique> I had it before.
21:27 <Pathetique> Ivantis, like madmax was saying
21:27 <Pathetique> a .cfg that is included every time the server starts is the way to go.
21:29 <Pathetique> Oh, and when adding them, for each variable, like the shortdescription, help topic name, and such, make sure to use quotes around the values you want to show up.
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