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18:26 <ivantis> epsy?
18:27 <epsy> yes?
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18:27 <ivantis> ok, so GID, how does it work?
18:28 <ivantis> you can login like epsy@x
18:28 <ivantis> whats the point?
18:28 <epsy> basically, /login <authority>, where <authority> is the..um..authority you want to login with
18:28 <ivantis> i dont get how it helps
18:28 <epsy> no need to create accounts, andusername/password is same everywhere
18:29 <epsy> makes auto-login possible
18:29 <ivantis> so people get admin powers to all servers?
18:29 <ivantis> with gid enabled
18:29 <ivantis> ?
18:29 <epsy> no, it's the server which gives an user rights, not the authority
18:29 <Monkey_arma> ivantis, basically it allows your server to connect to any of the "auth" servers to auth.
18:30 <epsy> would be chaos otherwise :)
18:30 <ivantis> auth servers? what are those?
18:30 <epsy> authorities
18:30 <Monkey_arma> passwords are stored in forum accounts on those servers instead of you putting a password on your server
18:30 <Monkey_arma> for example
18:30 <ivantis> oh, i get it
18:30 <Monkey_arma> anyone with an account on x server, arma forums etc can auth with that account
18:31 <ivantis> so when you login /login ivantis@forums
18:31 <epsy> yes
18:31 <ivantis> the forums know the password
18:31 <Monkey_arma> yes
18:31 <ivantis> and tell the server
18:31 <Monkey_arma> correct
18:31 <ivantis> i get it
18:31 <luke-jr> ivantis: if you're using an older version of Arma, you need to login to the forums first
18:31 <ivantis> how do you add the password to the forums?
18:31 <luke-jr> the first time
18:31 <epsy> same password
18:31 <Monkey_arma> you dont add it ivantis
18:31 <epsy> luke-jr, he registered after the change i think
18:31 <luke-jr> ah
18:32 <Monkey_arma> people use their own account passwords
18:32 <Monkey_arma> so i am Monkey@x
18:32 <Monkey_arma> and i use my password that i use to access x site
18:32 <ivantis> and its the password to your account on the forums?
18:32 <Monkey_arma> or i could do Monkey@forums
18:32 <Monkey_arma> yes correct
18:32 <ivantis> o
18:32 <luke-jr> btw, I uninstalled Arma and will probably not be playing any time soo
18:32 <luke-jr> n
18:33 <ivantis> so, whats the server setting for it?
18:33 <epsy> « my password that i use to access x site » :P
18:33 <Monkey_arma> you dont play anyway luke
18:33 <epsy> ivantis, GLOBAL_ID 1
18:33 <Monkey_arma> unless you smurf
18:33 <ivantis> ok
18:33 <ivantis> hang on
18:33 <epsy> Monkey_arma, he only plays LMS
18:33 <Monkey_arma> ok
18:33 <luke-jr> ivantis: that will probably break any ladderlog parsers btw
18:33 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen luke-jr
18:33 <ivantis> #lastseen ivantis
18:33 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
18:33 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 8 minutes ago.
18:34 <Monkey_arma> i check the master list regularly
18:34 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x
18:34 <Monkey_arma> i have never seen luke on it
18:34 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: you stalk me?
18:34 <Monkey_arma> not for you lol
18:34 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café 18 days 18 hours 46 minutes ago.
18:34 <ivantis> #lastseen Durka
18:34 <Monkey_arma> just in general when i go on
18:34 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
18:34 * epsy uses stealthmode too much
18:34 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: the uninstall is really the only recent thing, yeah
18:34 <Monkey_arma> what servers do you play then luke?
18:34 <epsy> #ls - gz0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
18:35 <epsy> #ls -g z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
18:35 <armabot> epsy: timed out
18:35 <armabot> epsy: |G| epsy has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 19 days 19 hours 15 minutes ago.
18:35 * epsy will try again in 4 mins :)
18:35 <ivantis> it says GLOBAL_ID unknown
18:35 <epsy> strange, i've thought i've seen your server using a recent version
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18:36 <ivantis> 0.2.8_alpha(some huge number)
18:36 <epsy> (somehugenumber) is a date
18:36 <luke-jr> epsy: it's still disabled by default in configure, isn't it?
18:36 <epsy> luke-jr, yes, but he uses local accounts already
18:36 <epsy> doesn't him?
18:37 <epsy> doesn't he*
18:37 <ivantis> wha?
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18:37 <epsy> ivantis, do you use the old ADMIN_PASS or local accounts?
18:37 <ivantis> admin pass
18:37 <epsy> oh
18:37 <ivantis> how do you do local accounts?
18:37 <epsy> i thought you did so..i wondered
18:38 <epsy> err
18:38 <epsy> #cfg2 local
18:38 <armabot> epsy: LOCAL_TEAM: Adds a local account for an entire team (team tags are compared). || LOCAL_USER: Adds a local user account from a name/password pair.
18:38 <epsy> wont work if you don't have GLOBAL_ID eihter
18:38 <ivantis> ok, how do i configure it?
18:38 <ivantis> dangit
18:39 <epsy> can you tell me what (somehugenumber) is?
18:39 <epsy> :)
18:39 <ivantis> it ends in 502 i think
18:39 <ivantis> with an 8 in it
18:39 <luke-jr> ivantis: why don't you look and tell him
18:39 <ivantis> #sd -v SPACE-LAB
18:39 <armabot> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (ivantis.ath.cx:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (1/16): Z3N
18:39 <luke-jr> good boy
18:39 <epsy> try to read it as 2008-05-08 :)
18:40 <ivantis> oh
18:40 <ivantis> its a date, why?
18:40 <epsy> :P
18:40 <epsy> easier to tell what it is
18:40 <luke-jr> because alphas used dates before we migrated to Svn
18:40 <luke-jr> and 0.2.8 keeps that tradition
18:40 <ivantis> o
18:40 <epsy> and since we use both svn and bzr now, it's impossible to use any revision number
18:41 <luke-jr> epsy: 0.3 still does, afaik
18:41 <luke-jr> git seems to be getting popular
18:41 <epsy> are the dates build dates or..?
18:41 <epsy> not sure on that point..
18:41 <ivantis> in major version its _alphaDATE
18:41 <ivantis> thats aall it is
18:41 <ivantis> in the bzr
18:42 <epsy> well, go to your source dir
18:42 <epsy> and do bzr info
18:42 <ivantis> im not using my server right now
18:42 <luke-jr> epsy: checkout date
18:42 <epsy> ah right :)
18:42 <ivantis> i can ssh tho
18:42 <epsy> perfect
18:42 <ivantis> ok, what should i do?
18:42 <epsy> <epsy> well, go to your source dir
18:42 <epsy> <epsy> and do bzr info
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18:43 * luke-jr ponders
18:43 * luke-jr goes to harrass the people who host with him since he hasn't seen payments for over 2 months
18:43 <ivantis> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch
18:43 <epsy> err, where did you download the source?
18:44 <epsy> or, how
18:44 <ivantis> bzr
18:44 <epsy> do to the checkout dir
18:44 <epsy> go*
18:44 <ivantis> uh
18:44 <epsy> cd
18:44 <ivantis> checkout dir?
18:44 <epsy> yes the checkout dir
18:44 <ivantis> how?
18:44 <epsy> the dir where arma's source resides
18:44 <epsy> cd into it
18:45 <ivantis> would it be the same as the one i have the server-binaries in?
18:45 <epsy> it is possible
18:45 <ivantis> now what?
18:45 <epsy> well it's the dir where you types make from
18:45 <epsy> bzr info :P
18:45 <ivantis> i did
18:45 <epsy> can we get a paste?
18:45 <ivantis> wait, does it have to be the original?
18:46 <ivantis> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/ivantis/arma-ded/".
18:46 <epsy> huh
18:46 <epsy> you need to find the dir where you put arma's source
18:46 <ivantis> this is my backup from when i went to ubuntu hardy
18:46 <ivantis> this is the source
18:46 <ivantis> i think
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18:47 <ivantis> oops, i typed sl instead of ls, the train!
18:48 <ivantis>
18:48 <epsy> wait, did you check-out on your machine, then copied it over scp or anything?
18:48 <ivantis> no
18:48 <ivantis> i did the checkout
18:48 <ivantis> then i copied it using ftp
18:48 <ivantis> to my other computer
18:48 <ivantis> then i upgraded
18:48 <epsy> find the dir where you did it then do a bzr info
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18:49 <epsy> ah
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18:49 <epsy> why didn't you check it our directly from the server? hm
18:49 <ivantis> the bzr server?
18:50 <epsy> the server which hosts your game
18:50 <ivantis> huh?
18:50 <epsy> the server which runs arma
18:50 <ivantis> it was checked out there
18:51 <ivantis> but i upgraded the server
18:51 <ivantis> so i made backups
18:51 <epsy> did you copy hidden files as well?
18:51 <ivantis> i think so
18:51 <epsy> ls -A ?
18:51 <ivantis> pretty sure
18:52 <ivantis> the only hidden ones are . and ..
18:52 <ivantis> were the others important
18:52 <ivantis> ?
18:52 <epsy> m.e.h.
18:52 <epsy> in a bzr checkout there's a .bzr dir
18:52 <ivantis> ugh
18:53 <ivantis> that was foolish
18:53 <ivantis> ill see if theyre stil on this computer with the original backups
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18:54 <ivantis> yes! still there, .bzr and a bunch of others
18:55 <ivantis> while im doing this, how does scp work? whats the syntax?
18:56 <ivantis> ?
18:56 <ivantis> ?
18:56 <ivantis> ??/
18:56 <epsy> ah
18:57 <epsy> scp --help is quite clear
18:57 <epsy> at long as you skip everything except the last line
18:57 <epsy> as*
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19:00 <luke-jr> #later tell flex *poke*
19:00 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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19:02 <ivantis> uh
19:02 <ivantis> do i put the other computer or this computer first on scp?
19:02 <ivantis> it says .bzr is not a regular file
19:02 <epsy> it's like cp
19:02 <epsy> try -R :)
19:03 <ivantis> -R?
19:03 <epsy> scp -R file dest
19:03 <ivantis> o
19:03 <luke-jr> there, 3 overdue notices sent + flex poked
19:03 <ivantis> scp: illegal option -- R
19:04 <luke-jr> epsy: rsync sourcedir/ destdir/ -av
19:04 <epsy> try -r then :P
19:04 <ivantis> sweet
19:04 <ivantis> it worked
19:05 <ivantis> ok, bzr info said...
19:05 <ivantis> Checkout (format: rich-root-pack)
19:05 <ivantis> Location:
19:05 <ivantis> checkout root: .
19:05 <ivantis> checkout of branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/
19:05 <ivantis> Related branches:
19:05 <ivantis> parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/
19:05 <epsy> okay
19:05 <epsy> bzr up
19:06 <epsy> then ./configure --enable-dedicated(or --disable-glout) --enable-authentication
19:06 <ivantis> Tree is up to date at revision 580.
19:06 <ivantis> ./configure again?
19:07 <ivantis> i already did, will it mess something up?
19:07 <ivantis> ill copy it somewhere
19:07 <luke-jr> no
19:07 <luke-jr> just do it
19:07 <luke-jr> and stfu
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19:08 <ivantis> what?
19:08 <epsy> then ./configure --disable-glout --enable-armathentication
19:08 <epsy> you didn't do --enable-armathentication
19:09 <epsy> and that's why you didn't have GLOBAL_ID etc
19:09 <ivantis> o
19:11 <ivantis> well, i dont really think its worth it
19:12 <ivantis> that took way to long anyway
19:12 -!- savas is now known as Flex
19:12 <ivantis> anyway, i need to work on the game im making, Armagepong
19:13 <ivantis> that would be hilarious, armagepon
19:13 <ivantis> g
19:13 <ivantis> ok, i am gettting hungry, i need lunch
19:13 <ivantis> later all
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19:26 <ivantis> #cfg2 -v MASTER_IDLE
19:26 <armabot> ivantis: Sorry, no matches :S
19:26 <ivantis> #cfg2 -v DEDICATED_IDLE
19:26 <armabot> ivantis: Sorry, no matches :S
19:27 <ivantis> #cfg2 -v cycle_rubber
19:27 <armabot> ivantis: Sorry, no matches :S
19:27 <ivantis> #cfg2 cycle_rubber
19:27 <armabot> ivantis: CYCLE_RUBBER: Niceness factor to allow you drive really close to a wall || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY: During this fraction of the cycle delay time after each turn, rubber efficiency will be multiplied with CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS. || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS: Factor for CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY rubber efficiency. || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS (10 more messages)
19:27 <ivantis> #cfg2 master_idle
19:27 <armabot> ivantis: MASTER_IDLE: UNDOCUMENTED
19:27 <ivantis> grr
19:28 <ivantis> #cfg2 dedicated_idle
19:28 <armabot> ivantis: DEDICATED_IDLE: After running this time (in hours), the dedicated server takes the next chance to quit.
19:28 <ivantis> #cfg2 shot_thresh
19:28 <armabot> ivantis: MEGA_SHOT_THRESH: mega_shot_thresh_help || SHOT_THRESH: shot_thresh_help
19:28 <ivantis> #cfg2 shot
19:28 <armabot> ivantis: CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT: Multiplicator to the total effect of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between its own wall and another wall || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT differs from its default? || DEATH_SHOT: death_shot_help || MEGA_SHOT_DIR: mega_shot_dir_help || MEGA_SHOT_EXPLOSION: mega_shot_explosion_help || MEGA_SHOT_MULT: mega_shot_mult_help (2 more messages)
19:29 <luke-jr> #help cfg2
19:29 <armabot> luke-jr: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
19:29 <ivantis> #help d0rka
19:29 <armabot> ivantis: Error: There is no command "d0rka".
19:29 <ivantis> #help tea
19:29 <armabot> ivantis: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo cafe".
19:30 <ivantis> #d
19:30 <ivantis> #help help
19:30 <armabot> ivantis: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
19:30 <ivantis> #help dorka
19:30 <armabot> ivantis: (dorka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen Durka".
19:30 <ivantis> #lastseen ivantis
19:30 <Monkey_arma> ivantis try:
19:30 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 53 minutes ago.
19:30 <Monkey_arma> /query armabot
19:30 <Monkey_arma> that should open up a box for you to type to armabot in
19:31 <Monkey_arma> and you dont need the # in it either
19:31 <Monkey_arma> for example you can do lastseen epsy
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19:32 <Monkey_arma> :\
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20:57 <Monkey_arma> look at bougo spamming
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21:23 <epsy> spammer!
21:24 * wrtlprnft pities him for his connection
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21:25 <epsy> you're on a dynamic IP wrtlprnft, right?
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21:30 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197058#197058
21:30 <epsy> does this guy mean a log-o-meter ?
21:31 <madmax> that was my thought too
21:31 <epsy> heh
21:32 <madmax> I think I want a square thingy that allows me to move crazy fast too
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21:38 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, dynamic in theory
21:38 <wrtlprnft> i never disconnect
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22:09 <madmax> http://codepad.org/
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22:14 <epsy> how long until it gets hijacked
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22:43 <madmax> epsy: read the about section about breaking it
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23:44 <epsy> #later tell flashyy it's a yes :)
23:44 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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23:52 <irc> whos theree?
23:52 <madmax> knock knock
23:52 <irc> im at a friends house
23:53 <irc> with a crummy keyboard
23:53 <wrtlprnft> at a friends house who?
23:53 <irc> mc chirs' house
23:53 <wrtlprnft> no joke? aww!
23:53 <irc> **chris
23:54 <irc> no, thats his arma name
23:54 <wrtlprnft> nvm
23:54 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:54 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:54 <irc> #day
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