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Log from 2008-02-26:
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02:03 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8125 /clio/trunk/clio/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Yay, wrappers now unbox themselves automatically.
02:03 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8126 /clio/trunk/clio/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Made pointers to pointers to pointers... GC-safe.
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02:19 <Ttech2> Well about time
02:19 <Ttech2> I found my way here
02:19 <Ttech2> ;)
02:19 <+P4> hey
02:19 <Ttech2> I used to play it al lthe time as Ttech, The_Doctor, or The_Master
02:19 <Ttech2> ;)
02:20 <Ttech2> Is this the offical help channel?
02:20 <Ttech2> Or is this for a certain server?
02:20 <flex> it's the official armagetron channel
02:20 <Ttech2> humm
02:20 <flex> so yeah
02:20 <flex> :p
02:22 -!- Ttech2 is now known as Ttech
02:24 <+P4> #google fight "crazy-tronners" "|x|-noobclan" "~*SP*~" "~|DS|~" "°°ps" ".:]" "<<<WIR>>>" AoS "Immortal Dynasty" "twisted rats"
02:24 <+armabot> P4: <<<WIR>>>: 670000000, °°ps: 502000000, ~*SP*~: 375000000, ~|DS|~: 291000000, |x|-noobclan: 214000000, AoS: 81100000, twisted rats: 511000, Immortal Dynasty: 302000, crazy-tronners: 589, .:]: 0
02:24 <+P4> #google fight "ct" "|x|" "~*SP*~" "~|DS|~" "°°ps" ".:]" "<<<WIR>>>" AoS "Immortal Dynasty" "twisted rats"
02:24 <+armabot> P4: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
02:24 <Ttech> lol
02:24 <Ttech> LOL
02:24 <+P4> here it is :P
02:24 <Ttech> lol
02:24 <Ttech> hahaha
02:24 <Ttech> What happeend to SPZ
02:24 <Ttech> :/
02:24 <Ttech> I was a member of Space Zone
02:25 <Ttech> then I got busy
02:25 <+P4> heh
02:25 <+P4> .si space
02:25 <+P4> #si space
02:25 <+armabot> P4: SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!]: Players (2/8): ANNEFRANK, Jeremy\
02:25 <Ttech> Yeah
02:25 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8127 /clio/trunk/clio/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Automatic unboxing of references to std::string
02:25 <Ttech> But there are more serrvers then that
02:25 <Ttech> armabot,  list
02:25 <+armabot> Ttech: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:25 <Ttech> how interesting
02:25 <Ttech> ~list CIA
02:26 <Ttech> armabot list CIA
02:26 <+armabot> Ttech: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
02:26 <Ttech> armabot plugin about CIA
02:26 <+armabot> Ttech: Error: There is no command "about CIA".
02:26 <Ttech> armabot plugin  CIA
02:26 <+armabot> Ttech: Error: There is no command "CIA".
02:26 <Ttech> armabot author CIA
02:26 <+armabot> Ttech: Unknown author (unknown) <unknown AT supybot DOT org>
02:26 <Ttech> 0.o
02:26  * Ttech cries
02:26 <+P4> it's in default repos
02:26 <Ttech> P4,  No its not
02:27 <Ttech> Do you have a link?
02:28 <Ttech> armabot,  freshmeat
02:28 <+armabot> Ttech: (freshmeat <project name>) -- Returns Freshmeat data about a given project.
02:28 <Ttech> lol
02:28 <Ttech> armabot,  sourceforge
02:28 <Ttech> armabot,  list sourceforge
02:28 <+armabot> Ttech: bug, bugs, fight, patch, patches, rfe, rfes, stats, total, and tracker
02:28 <Ttech> ~stats
02:28 <Ttech> armabot sourceforge stats
02:28 <+armabot> Ttech: (sourceforge stats [<project>]) -- Returns the current statistics for <project>. <project> is not needed if there is a default project set.
02:28 <Ttech> Whats the project?
02:28 <Ttech> 0.o
02:29 <Ttech> ~search sourceforge
02:29 <Ttech> ~list alias
02:29 <Ttech> armabot, list alias
02:29 <+armabot> Ttech: monologue, roulette, 42, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, botsnack, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, (3 more messages)
02:29 <Ttech> aaah
02:29  * Ttech points to the Encyclopdia module
02:29 <Ttech> Its much better
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02:35 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8128 /clio/trunk/clio/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Manuel Moos: Reordered stuff.
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11:45 <freako> Anyone of the programmers here?
11:50 <+P4> not me, but what's the problem
11:58 <+StickyNoob> whats with the voices in here?
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11:59 <+StickyNoob> #ping
11:59 <+armabot> pong
12:00 <freako> sorry p4 , i rly need a programmer :(
12:00 <+StickyNoob> an arma programmer or will any do?
12:01 <epsy> StickyNoob, those who stay all the time :P
12:02  * epsy wonders what will happen at next netsplit
12:02 <+StickyNoob> ahh are we tagging people to see if they leave or not
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12:02 <+StickyNoob> it appears that we have no admins tho
12:02 <flex> well luke done it..
12:02 <epsy> well i doubt it was the actual goal
12:02 <epsy> and it was wrtl
12:02 <flex> oh
12:02 <flex> yeah..
12:02 <flex> my bad
12:03 <epsy> flex, refresh
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12:03 <freako> sorry sticky i need an arma prgrammer :(
12:03 <+StickyNoob> ahh
12:04 <+StickyNoob> give z-man-work or wrtlprnft a ping then
12:04 <freako> wrtls at school 0.o
12:05 <flex> he is?
12:08 <K-Yo> is it a known bug that compiz makes arma crashes in fullscreen?
12:09 <+StickyNoob> compiz makes everything crash
12:09 <epsy> exactly
12:09 <epsy> did you ever read it was *EXPERIMENTAL*
12:09 <+StickyNoob> i made the mistake of installing it on my gf's computer, now i cant remove it
12:12 <K-Yo> hum
12:12 <K-Yo> can't you?
12:12 <K-Yo> :(
12:12 <K-Yo> I just turn it off to play arma
12:12 <epsy> now his gf left
12:12 <+StickyNoob> you should be able to, i have removed it on other mahines, on hers if i remove it i loose the window decorations, and nothing i do seems to bring them back
12:13 <+StickyNoob> appears to be a problem with metacity
12:17 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8129 /clio/trunk/clio/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added automatic unboxing/converting of numbers and bools.
12:18 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8130 /clio/trunk/clio/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Adapted test results.
12:34 <K-Yo> my screen lowers luminosity automatically while playing fullscreen
12:34 <+StickyNoob> heh
12:34 <+StickyNoob> optical illusion?
12:36 <K-Yo> who knows...
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13:17 <Program> #lastseen knus
13:17 <+armabot> Program: Knus has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 10 minutes ago.
13:17 <Program> #lastseen knus
13:17 <+armabot> Program: Knus has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 10 minutes ago.
13:19 <+duudii> #lastseen Program
13:19 <+armabot> duudii: pROGRAM has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 3 hours 11 minutes ago.
13:20 <Program> #lastseen knus
13:20 <+armabot> Program: Knus has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 13 minutes ago.
13:20 <Program> #sd test
13:20 <+armabot> Program: Fortress Test Server: Players (0/16):
13:21 <+wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: no, it was just me fooling around because someone timed out
13:22 <+wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: we can parse logs if we want to see who times out…
13:22 <+wrtlprnft> does anyone know what freako wanted?
13:23 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8131 /clio/trunk/clio/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Updated docs a bit.
13:24 <Program> i know :D
13:24 -!- Program is now known as freako
13:25 <freako> I had some little bugreport :(
13:25 <+wrtlprnft> lol
13:26 <freako> can you come to nexus 9 server?
13:26 <+wrtlprnft> #sd -v nexus 9
13:26 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “nexus 9” at the moment, sorry.
13:26 <+wrtlprnft> #sd -v nexus
13:26 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (204.8.205.44:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://www.nexusnine.info, Description: “High speed, no rubber, daring players.“, Players (0/20):
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13:44 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8132 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/about.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: Updated some more.
13:45 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8133 /clio/trunk/clio/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added prototypes for missing chapters.
13:45 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8134 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. tests/Makefile.am tests/listtests.sh tests/runtests.sh): Manuel Moos: Less obnoxious test make output.
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13:56 <+StickyNoob> hmm net split does not effect voice
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14:09 <epsy> heh
14:36 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8135 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/about.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: added newline.
14:38 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8136 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/about.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: Fixed another list.
14:50 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8137 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/hello.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: Simplified.
15:01 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8138 /clio/trunk/clio/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Manuel Moos: Spell checked :)
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15:38 <+eddiefantastic> z-man-work: what can I look forward to with this clio stuff?
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15:39 <+z-man-work> Dunno. We haven't decided whether we're going to use it yet.
15:39 <+z-man-work> If we're going to use it, it will be scripting stuff.
15:40 <Ttech2> 0.o
15:40 <+eddiefantastic> cool. When it's ready for testing, I can help with that stuff
15:40 <Ttech2> P4,  solved?
15:40 <+eddiefantastic> if
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16:03 <+P4> Ttech: what was the problem?
16:03 <+P4> #google fight "ct" "|x|" "~*SP*~" "~|DS|~" "°°ps" ".:]" "<<<WIR>>>" AoS "Immortal Dynasty" "twisted rats"
16:03 <+armabot> P4: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
16:05 <Ttech> that
16:05 <Ttech> ;|
16:05 <+P4> Ttech: i didn't found CIA plugin yet, but i'm sure i saw it somewhere
16:05 <Ttech> are you owner?
16:05 <Ttech> P4,  ask the owner to MemoServ me
16:05 <Ttech> ;)
16:05 <Ttech> of the bot
16:05 <Ttech> And are you owner?
16:06 <Ttech> if you are do ~reload Google
16:06 <Ttech> if you are do #reload Google
16:06 <+P4> wrtlprnft: ping
16:06 <Ttech> wrtlprnft,  ping?
16:06 <Ttech> wrtlprnft = Person?
16:06 <+P4> yes
16:06 <+P4> he's admin of the bot
16:07 <Ttech> do #whoami
16:07 <+P4> #whoami
16:07 <+armabot> P4: P4
16:07 <Ttech> can you try #reload Google
16:07 <+P4> #capabilities P4
16:07 <+P4> no, it's not my bot
16:07 <Ttech> Try
16:07 <Ttech> :/
16:07 <Ttech> Does the owner trust you?:
16:07 <Ttech> Aer you friends?
16:08 <+P4> there's a lot of friends here, it doesn't mean everyone is admin
16:08 <Ttech> Because it might be that easy of a fix
16:08 <+P4> what was wrong?
16:11 <Ttech> I do not know
16:12 <Ttech> But thats part of the debugging prossess
16:12 <Ttech> the only one who can say is the person who has the terminal
16:12 <Ttech> you havfe to get the bot out of deamon
16:12 <Ttech> and put it into termianl mode
16:12 <Ttech> Talk to you alter
16:26 <+P4> sure, if i got google's api licence, i could try that on my own bot, i bet it's the same error
16:29 <luke-jr> … seriously, it's just google fight…
16:30 <+P4> nah, it's not just google fight, it's supybot plugin that doesn't work fine
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16:30 <+P4> #google fight "crazy-tronner" "|x|" "~*SP*~" "~|DS|~" "°°ps" ".:]" "<<<WIR>>>" AoS "Immortal Dynasty" "twisted rats"
16:30 <+armabot> P4: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
16:30 <+P4> hrm
16:30 <+P4> #google fight "crazy-tronners" "|x|-noobclan" "~*SP*~" "~|DS|~" "°°ps" ".:]" "<<<WIR>>>" AoS "Immortal Dynasty" "twisted rats"
16:30 <+armabot> P4: <<<WIR>>>: 669000000, °°ps: 502000000, ~*SP*~: 375000000, ~|DS|~: 291000000, |x|-noobclan: 219000000, AoS: 80300000, twisted rats: 515000, Immortal Dynasty: 303000, crazy-tronners: 593, .:]: 0
16:31 <+P4> i don't get wtf is wrongh
16:31 <epsy> hahahahah
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16:36 <+wrtlprnft> #reload Google
16:36 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
16:36 <+wrtlprnft> whatever that was good for.
16:36  * epsy feels forced to use inline scripts
16:38 <+P4> #google fight "crazy-tronner" "|x|" "~*SP*~" "~|DS|~" "°°ps" ".:]" "<<<WIR>>>" AoS "Immortal Dynasty" "twisted rats"
16:38 <+armabot> P4: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
16:38 <+P4> yes, i thought it won'tsolve the issue
16:38 <+P4> wrtlprnft: can you tell me what's the console output?
16:39 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you're very red
16:40 <+wrtlprnft> red?
16:40 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/?authonly=1
16:40 <+wrtlprnft> P4: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/919047
16:41 <+P4> thanks
16:41 <+wrtlprnft> yw#+
16:41 <+wrtlprnft> s/..$//
16:41 <epsy> heh
16:41 <epsy> what does the red mean
16:41 <+wrtlprnft> what red?
16:42 <epsy> on the link luke gave
16:42 <flex> red means gay
16:42 <epsy> how come infa is full white then
16:42 <+wrtlprnft> ah
16:42 <epsy> @x on top btw :p
16:42 <luke-jr> epsy: high volatility
16:42 <luke-jr> white is low volatility
16:42 <+wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i have no clue why i'm red
16:43 <epsy> luke-jr, the less often you play the more you're red?
16:43 <luke-jr> epsy: nothing to do with that
16:43 <luke-jr> I think
16:43 <epsy> or regularity?
16:43 <+wrtlprnft> i haven't played a lot in the last week
16:43 <luke-jr> I think it's more of how much your skill is changing
16:43 <epsy> yea i see
16:43 <luke-jr> so if you're getting sucky, or getting very good
16:44 <epsy> if i am really jumping between sucky and good?
16:44 <luke-jr> I think so
16:44 <luke-jr> but inconsistently
16:44 <luke-jr> if you're consistently jumping, it might just settle on a wide range
16:45 <luke-jr> volatility influences how much your rating expands over time
16:45 <luke-jr> so if your volatility is low, you might expand 1%/RP
16:45 <luke-jr> and high might expand 5%
16:46 <epsy> right
16:48 <luke-jr> I wonder when we'll start seeing clans with requirements on the rating board XD
16:49 <luke-jr> "minimum 1500 rating"
16:49 <luke-jr> :þ
16:49 <+wrtlprnft> maybe when i start to see some connection between the skill of a player and their rating
16:55 <luke-jr> #rating wrtlprnft
16:55 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
16:55 <+armabot> luke-jr: wrtlprnft is 440th with a rating of 1552-1594 (from 1555-1591)
16:55 <+armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 447th with a rating of 1551-1613 (from 1553-1611)
16:55 <luke-jr> :/
16:56  * luke-jr had to reboot and forgot how he started his 3D accel'd X server
16:56  * wrtlprnft pwns luke
16:56 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: actually, you only pwn me in worst case scenario ;p
16:56 <+wrtlprnft> /etc/init.d/xdm start?
16:56 <luke-jr> my potential skill is 19 higher than yours
16:56 <+wrtlprnft> that's the way mine starts
16:57 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: that starts my dual headed X server
16:57 <luke-jr> this video card only has 32 MB of video RAM, so it can't do accel 3D on dual head
16:57 <luke-jr> need to run a seperate single-head X server to do games
17:03 <+wrtlprnft> wow. i love my intel card.
17:19 <+StickyNoob> intel gfx? they are ok had an absolute bitch of a time getting a certain project to work on them
17:20 <+StickyNoob> at least intel were among the first to have open sauce drivers
17:21 <epsy> open sauce?
17:21 <+StickyNoob> yup
17:22 <epsy> like in "open source but still sucky" ?
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17:23 <+StickyNoob> not really just jokeing, the linux intel drivers are quite good
17:23 <epsy> hm
17:24 <epsy> better than nothing, sure
17:24 <+StickyNoob> i curse everytime ubuntu upgrade the kernal on my ati machine as it invariably involves an hour of pokeing to get the 3d drivers and dual monitors back
17:25 <luke-jr> epsy: Intel gfx are the best on Linux
17:25 <epsy> stop saying crap...
17:25 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: I just keep my X.org config across upgrades
17:25 <epsy> with my intel gfx what do i GET?
17:25 <luke-jr> epsy: great 3D accel
17:25 <luke-jr> without a hassle
17:25 <epsy> 10-25fps on most games
17:26 <luke-jr> yeah right
17:26 <epsy> now let's compare that to an nvidia one
17:26 <luke-jr> ok
17:26 <+StickyNoob> epsy: ist that a laptop card?
17:26 <epsy> ha
17:26 <luke-jr> nVidia -- 3D via software only
17:26 <luke-jr> oh boy, look at that fast 2D
17:26 <luke-jr> epsy: I bet Intel gfx can do 2D as well
17:26 <epsy> their drives are easy and quick to install
17:27 <epsy> drivers*
17:27 <luke-jr> their drivers are illegal and you no longer have a free OS when you're done
17:27 <+StickyNoob> they are not illegal
17:27 <epsy> but they work good
17:27 <+StickyNoob> immorale maby but not illegal
17:28 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: illegal
17:28 <luke-jr> copyright violation
17:39 <+StickyNoob> luke-jr: whos drivers are copyright violations?
17:39 <luke-jr> nVidia's
17:39 <+StickyNoob> and whos copyright are they infringing?
17:40 <+StickyNoob> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html they seem to distribute their binary drivers quite happily
17:45 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: yeah, someone should sue them
17:46 <epsy> that argument could be valable to every graphics driver out there, luke-jr
17:47 <luke-jr> epsy: no
17:47 <luke-jr> only nVidia and ATi
17:47 <luke-jr> and ATi is at least working toward conformance
17:47 <epsy> lol
17:47 <luke-jr> hiring Novell to help X.org/DRI write new legal drivers
17:49 <+wrtlprnft> didn't they publish some specs?
17:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: yes, and they are paying Novell to help write drivers based on them
17:49 <luke-jr> AMD is doing their part to work toward compliance
17:49 <+StickyNoob> luke-jr: so whos copyright are the infringing?
17:50 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: a variety of Linux developers
17:50 <+StickyNoob> where do they take gpl code?
17:50 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8139 /clio/trunk/clio/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added overload docs.
17:50 <luke-jr> their little source code wrapper piece is based on Linux code
17:51 <luke-jr> it's "open" source, but not GPL compatible
17:51 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8140 /clio/trunk/clio/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Lots of docs added.
17:51 <+StickyNoob> i thought nvidia were still closed source
17:52 <luke-jr> most of it is
17:52 <luke-jr> "That's it, it is very simple. I've had the misfortune of talking to a lot of different IP lawyers over the years about this topic, and every one that I've talked to all agree that there is no way that anyone can create a Linux kernel module, today, that can be closed source. It just violates the GPL due to fun things like derivative works and linking and other stuff. Again, it's very simple."
17:53 <luke-jr> That's gregkh, one of the major Linux developers
17:54 <+StickyNoob> problem is all you will do with the "shun all non free drivers" idea is push hardware manufactures even further away than they already are
17:56 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: that's why they're all too chicken to sue nVidia
17:56 <+StickyNoob> thats more practicality than chicken
17:56 <luke-jr> no it isn't
17:57 <luke-jr> because in reality, when they win, nVidia has to pay damages
17:57 <luke-jr> which can be the development time to reverse engineer and write legal drivers
17:57 <+StickyNoob> basicly you are saying to all hw manufatures open up your drivers or dont support linux at all
17:57 <luke-jr> exactly
17:57 <+StickyNoob> which isnt good
17:57 <luke-jr> better no support than proprietary support
17:58 <+StickyNoob> i disagree with that
17:58 <luke-jr> at least with no support, people won't buy their crap, and if it's really that good, there's more incentive to reverse engineer it
18:00 <+wrtlprnft> without support enough people will buy their crap
18:00 <+wrtlprnft> they'll just stay with windows
18:01 <+StickyNoob> exactly
18:01 <+wrtlprnft> linux is great on the server market and can't be ignored there, but the handful of linux desktop users with 3D requirements isn't big enough for them to worry that much
18:02 <+StickyNoob> it will just stop them supporting the 5% (or whatever small figure it is) of the extra market they can get
18:02 <+wrtlprnft> intel doesn't have a lot to hide. the graphics chips they produce aren't worth stealing from
18:02 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: they might as well stay with Windows
18:03 <luke-jr> Linux + nVidia is currently just as non-free
18:03 <+wrtlprnft> linux doesn't only rock because it's free.
18:03 <+StickyNoob> heh always with the absolutes 100% free or nothing
18:03 <+wrtlprnft> *… doesn't rock just because …
18:03 <luke-jr> put it this way
18:04 <luke-jr> what do I care if Joe Luser uses Windows or proprietaryLinux?
18:04 <luke-jr> between those two options, neither helps me
18:04 <+StickyNoob> use kde? qt for a long time was not 100% free
18:04 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: it was when I used it
18:04 <luke-jr> In fact, I think it's probably been free longer than it was non-free now
18:05 <+wrtlprnft> by the way, what do I care about the legality of those drivers? noone's going to sue me for it
18:05 <+StickyNoob> heh
18:05 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you can't be sued for it
18:05 <luke-jr> unless you upload them
18:05 <luke-jr> at least that's how it works in the US
18:06 <luke-jr> not sure if Germany prosecutes the downloaded
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18:11 <+wrtlprnft> i know i can't be sued for it
18:11 <+wrtlprnft> and i don't care
18:11 <+wrtlprnft> i think the kernel devs would better not push this too far
18:11 <+wrtlprnft> *should
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19:11 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8141 /clio/trunk/clio/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Fixed namespace/class collisions: classes win.
19:12 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8142 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. clio/iclassinfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Small addition to last fix: let the overridden objects create their protos anyway.
19:25 <K-Yo> #svn
19:25 <+armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
19:27 <spidey__> luke-jr, buy me a liger
19:27 <spidey__> :D
19:27 <luke-jr> spidey__: f u retard
19:27 <spidey__> luke-jr, grow up
19:28 <luke-jr> spidey__: f u retard
19:28 <flex> spidey__
19:28 <flex> you a girl?
19:28 <spidey__> no, but luke-jr is
19:28 <flex> no really
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8143 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/about.t2t.in doc/namespaces.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: Finished namespace documentation.
19:29 <flex> fonkey said you were a girl..
19:29 <spidey__> so?
19:30 <flex> so you are? i was just wondering..
19:30 <spidey__> spidey__ no spidey__ no spidey__ no spidey__ no spidey__ no spidey__ no spidey__ no
19:31 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8144 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/main.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: Added properties stub.
19:31 <flex> ??? jeez was just a question..
19:33 <luke-jr> flex: want his #?>
19:33 <spidey__> if you buy me a liger i'll give it to you
19:34 <flex> no luke, i already have yours ;)
19:37 <luke-jr> flex: I give mine out
19:37 <luke-jr> spidey__: grow up
19:37 <spidey__> dude
19:37 <spidey__> if i had a liger
19:37 <spidey__> i'd make him eat you
19:37 <spidey__> ligers are like 900lbs
19:37 <luke-jr> spidey__: grow up
19:38 <spidey__> and are 12ft tall when they stand up
19:38 <spidey__> :D
19:38 <spidey__> it'd crush your skill with 1 foot
19:38 <spidey__> :O
19:38 <flex> so?
19:40 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8145 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. doc/method_overloads.t2t.in): Manuel Moos: Added small note.
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20:04 <luke-jr> "Whoever…utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet… without disclosing his identity…shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
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20:23  * cusco is comunicating with luke-jr without disclosuring his identity
20:24 <luke-jr> :o
20:36 <epsy> #ping
20:36 <+armabot> pong
20:36 <luke-jr> :o
20:36 <luke-jr> madmax is playing
20:37 <luke-jr> @aka 0:madmax@forums
20:37 <luke-jr> #aka 0:madmax@forums
20:37 <epsy> #tea
20:37 <+armabot> luke-jr: ¿8960 wyyattearp madmax 0:madmax@forums
20:37 <+armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): álf ñ, error, Puuquie, Radian, ToA, ~|DS|~G5, ~°~>(.)GluGGsel
20:37 <luke-jr> #rating madmax
20:37 <+armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 199th with a rating of 1589-1761 (from 1150-1850)
20:37  * luke-jr ponders 
20:37 <epsy> #lastseen madma
20:37 <+armabot> epsy: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 6 minutes ago.
20:37 <epsy> #rating 0:epsy@x
20:38 <+armabot> epsy: 0:epsy@x is 343rd with a rating of 1567-1606 (from 1570-1602)
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20:40 <epsy> luke-jr, and what does the grayness mean ? :þ
20:40 <madmax> who won the TST?
20:40 <epsy> which one? :}
20:41 <madmax> wasn't there one some weeks ago or something?
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20:41 <epsy> yes; goody and sage won
20:41 <epsy> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/competitions.php?c=2069
20:42 <madmax> ah thanks
20:42 <epsy> next TST has been announced today
20:42 <epsy> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=276
20:43 <epsy> i didn't widespread the announcement over forums yet, but i am gonna do that
20:43 <epsy> after dinner probably
20:43 <madmax> congrats Goodygumdrops :-P
20:44 <epsy> registration will open the 2nd of march, the day of the laddle
20:44 <epsy> ladle* :)
20:55 <epsy> #tea
20:55 <+armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): álf ñ, DragonVI, error, Puuquie, Radian, ToA, ~ALEX~, ~°~>(.)GluGGsel, ¦×¦ Hoax
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21:24 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
21:24 <luke-jr> #rating wrtlprnft
21:24 <+armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 280th with a rating of 1576-1629 (from 1553-1611)
21:24 <+armabot> luke-jr: wrtlprnft is 453rd with a rating of 1550-1592 (from 1555-1591)
21:24 <luke-jr> epsy: what greyness?
21:24 <luke-jr> #rating 0:epsy@x
21:24 <+armabot> luke-jr: 0:epsy@x is 344th with a rating of 1567-1606 (from 1570-1602)
21:24 <epsy> on the page
21:24 <luke-jr> …
21:25 <epsy> ?
21:25 <luke-jr> [09:44:08] <luke-jr> white is low volatility
21:25 <epsy> oh
21:25 <epsy> i mean text color
21:26 <luke-jr> ⁈
21:26 <luke-jr> text colour is always black -.-
21:27 <epsy> not on live ratings
21:27 <luke-jr> …
21:27 <luke-jr> oh
21:28 <luke-jr> grey text there means has not played
21:28 <epsy> since his last official rating?
21:28 <luke-jr> yes
21:28 <epsy> right
21:29 <luke-jr> hm
21:29 <luke-jr> how am I 280th?
21:30 <luke-jr> I thought I was still in the 300s
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21:30 <luke-jr> nm, just remembered my goal was to get OUT of the 300s :þ
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22:03 <+wrtlprnft> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Amiga500_system.jpg
22:03 <+wrtlprnft> how can you push a simple clock's version up to 2.22?
22:04 <flex> haha sweet
22:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: those were fun ☹
22:07 <luke-jr> the AREXX had a built in TTS even
22:08 <luke-jr> and Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga to reboot!
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22:32 <epsy> http://csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/202/202.css&page=0
22:34 <+wrtlprnft> wow, on a big screen you get a very high cinema
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23:50 <fonkay> anyone know a good free DVD copy program?
23:57 <+armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8146 /clio/trunk/clio/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added property doc.
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