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Log from 2008-01-01:
--- Day changed Tue Jan 01 2008
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01:48 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:48 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 16.9°F (6:46 PM CST on December 31, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Falling).
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04:24 <luke-jr> ct|ky13:
04:24 <luke-jr> #aka ct_ky13
04:24 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
04:24 <luke-jr> :O
04:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft:
04:25 <ct|ky13> luke-jr:
04:25 <luke-jr> #aka ct_ky13
04:25 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
04:25 <luke-jr> poj armabot
04:27 <ct|ky13> #help aka
04:27 <armabot> ct|ky13: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://stats.aa.dashjr.org/~armastats-srv/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
04:28 <luke-jr> #alias add aka "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
04:28 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:28 <luke-jr> #alias add rating "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
04:28 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:28 <luke-jr> rebooting it now
04:28 <luke-jr> fyi
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04:34 <ct|ky13> how long does that take
04:43 <luke-jr> it's doing a fsck
04:43 <luke-jr> #aka ct_ky13
04:43 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
04:43 <luke-jr> so forever
04:44 <ct|ky13> ya
04:45 <ct|ky13> is there a manual way to check the fs
04:45 <ct|ky13> because mine is surly to have an error with 2 power outages
04:45 <luke-jr> #aka ct_ky13
04:45 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿1516 noob ct_ky13 ctxwoned murked huy
04:46 <luke-jr> why?
04:46 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13
04:46 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13 is 448th with a rating of 1494-1539 (from 1547-1600)
04:46 <luke-jr> :o
04:46 <luke-jr> sucking today :þ
04:46 <luke-jr> bbl
04:47 <ct|ky13> #aka ct_ky13
04:47 <armabot> ct|ky13: ¿1516 noob ct_ky13 ctxwoned murked huy
05:23  * ct|ky13 never played as any of them
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05:40 <ct|ky13> #aka ct_ky13
05:40 <armabot> ct|ky13: ¿1516 noob ct_ky13 ctxwoned murked huy
05:40 <ct|ky13> #serverinfo wild fortress
05:40 <armabot> ct|ky13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (7/14): $atm$:I.C.U @.@, >> LOOK HERE <<, CtxWoned, ct¤ky13, MeGaTrOn, ShowHealion, |atm$$|steve
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14:11 <z-man> Apple sucks for backwards compatibility.
14:12 <z-man> XCode 3.0 does not work on Tiger, and XCode 2.5 does not contain the SDK for 10.2.8 any more.
14:12 <z-man> insert some "worse than microsoft" remarks
14:15 <z-man> Oh wait, found the SDK, it's just not installed by default.
14:27 <z-man> Hrmpf, how come #include <iostream> fails with the 10.2.8 SDK?
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14:38 <z-man> Hmm, the file is there. Looks like it is trying to compile using gcc-4.0, and the include file is only for gcc-3.x.
14:38  * z-man thought he had installed gcc-3.3 already
14:40 <z-man> Oh well, reinstall XCode, install support directly with it. maybe that works.
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14:59 <z-man> grr, that did not install gcc-3.3. Manually installing it afterwards fails to make it known to XCode.
15:55 <K-Yo> #monologue
15:55 <armabot> K-Yo: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
15:55 <K-Yo> :(
15:55 <K-Yo> #monologue
15:55 <armabot> K-Yo: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
15:56 <K-Yo> yeah
16:22 <Sticky_> !tea
16:22 <Sticky_> #tea
16:22 <armabot> Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): matt
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16:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7436 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/macosx/config_common.h: automatically selecting 10.2.8 specific options
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17:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7437 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (macosx/config_common.h tools/tString.cpp): strnlen does not exist on the mac, removed its usage
17:17 <luke-jr> z-man: why not ask nemo to do it?
17:18 <luke-jr> #ratingel_jefe
17:18 <luke-jr> #rating el_jefe
17:18 <luke-jr> wtf
17:18 <armabot> luke-jr: el_jefe is 1st with a rating of 1890-2154 (from 841-1294)
17:28 <wrtlprnft> #help aka
17:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
17:29 <wrtlprnft> #aka wrtl
17:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I don't know anything about 'wrtl'!
17:29 <wrtlprnft> …
17:29 <luke-jr> #aka wrtlprnft
17:29 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'wrtlprnft'!
17:29 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you don't play much?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> #aka wrtlprnft_|mbc|
17:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ¿1494 bbbbb wrtlprnft_|mbc|
17:30 <wrtlprnft> bbbbb?!
17:30 <luke-jr> don't ask me!
17:31 <luke-jr> those are from PLAYER_RENAMED
17:31 <wrtlprnft> o_O
17:31 <luke-jr> #rating ¿1494
17:31 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿1494 is 122nd with a rating of 1581-1685 (from 1583-1684)
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17:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: except the ¿ ones, which are internal UIDs
17:32 <wrtlprnft> i was never named bbbbb, that was someone else
17:32 <luke-jr> did they rename to you?
17:33 <wrtlprnft> maybe
17:35 <cusco> happy new year
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17:40 <wrtlprnft> happy new year you too cusco 
17:42 <cusco> thanks
17:42 <cusco> wa sup
17:42 <wrtlprnft> not much
17:42 <cusco> as usual! :)
17:45 <cusco> here:
17:45 <cusco> 16:47:49 < Yalborap> Hmm....Does anyone know what the application 'ruby' might  be?
17:45 <cusco> 16:48:06 < Yalborap> I mean, is it a virus/spyware, or something harmless?
17:45 <cusco> @ #macosx
17:46 <wrtlprnft> did that guy ever hear about google?
18:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7438 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Fixed plist path to be relative (whatever a plist is)
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18:12 <z-man> luke-jr: bus factor, basically. Of the development people, I'm the only other one with a Mac, so I should enable myself to do proper builds there.
18:12 <luke-jr> o
18:12 <luke-jr> I have a Mac if you can mail me a laptop HD :þ
18:13 <z-man> What type?
18:13 <z-man> Mac, not HD :)
18:14 <luke-jr> G3 I think
18:14 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: just get an adaptor and plug in a regular HD
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18:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: hahaha
18:15 <wrtlprnft> it'd probably need an external power supply and have to love outside the laptop, but who cares?
18:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you can't access any of the connectors for the HD without COMPLETELY disassembling it
18:16 <wrtlprnft> then the notebook sucks
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18:18 <z-man> The only spare notebook HD I have is a fat one, so it probably won't fit.
18:18 <z-man> Macs do accept standard IDE HDs, right?
18:18 <luke-jr> this one should
18:18  * z-man never opened his PwerBook
18:19 <z-man> Ayway, for some reason, I'll feel more comfortable if I know how the build system on the mac works myself.
18:19 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I suspect all Apple is that way
18:21 <z-man> Great, it took ages to convince XCode to use gcc-3.3, and now it won't go back to 4.0 and compiling for osx 10.4
18:22 <z-man> which is really odd, because the changes I made were project specific.
18:22  * z-man hates all IDEs
18:23 <luke-jr> why not get the normal configure stuff to work?
18:23 <z-man> because Macs have all this peculiar stuff with frameworks, ObjectiveC and universal binaries.
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18:25 <luke-jr> flea: yeah
18:25 <flea> lol
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18:32 <z-man> Ah, nemo hardcoded for gcc 3.3 somewhere in the build specific settings
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18:38 <luke-jr> flea: go away
18:39 <flea> lol
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19:02 <luke-jr> MrBougo: !
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19:16 <MrBougo> luke-jr: !
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20:48 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7439 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (9 files in 6 dirs): added new ladderlog stuff (used to be edlog), thanks to ed and voodoo (poke z-man)
22:47 <z-man> And I just wrestled down xcode to produce a build that should run with all OSXes from 10.2.8 on, hah :)
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22:50 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7440 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Build result of 10.2.8 build target should now be a binary that runs natively on ppc and i386 and works with OSX versions from 10.2.8 on.
22:50 <z-man> Now, to find a program that generates nicer .dmgs.
22:52 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7441 / (2 files in 2 dirs):
22:53 <z-man> Oh no, another one of these mystery commits from SVK
23:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7442 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Reverted version change. Need to find out how this was automated.
23:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7443 / (/ armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/README-Subversion): Updated OSX descriptions.
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Log from 2008-01-02:
--- Day changed Wed Jan 02 2008
00:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7444 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Adapted some libraries to their new position, must have slipped nemo a while back.
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00:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7445 / (2 files in 2 dirs):
00:35 <z-man> again?
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01:31 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:31 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Unknown host.
01:32 <ghableska> :o
01:32 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 6.8°F (5:54 PM CST on January 01, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: -14.8°F. Pressure: 30.64 in 1038 hPa (Rising).
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01:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7446 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Argh, reverted SVKs crappy commit.
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02:01 <luke-jr> z-man: admit it, you're doing rev inflation :þ
02:01 <z-man> SDK is to be blamed for all the commentless commits, I swear!
02:02 <z-man> SVK, I mean.
02:02 <luke-jr> ☺
02:02 <luke-jr> sure sure
02:02 <z-man> I mean, look at them. Some are empty. I would not know how to create an empty commit :)
02:02 <luke-jr> ☺
02:02 <luke-jr> yes you do
02:02 <luke-jr> use SVK!
02:02 <luke-jr> :þ
02:02 <z-man> And others simply don't make sense.
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02:36 <luke-jr> #aka .ec|d
02:36 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3151 .ec|d
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05:53 <luke-jr> #rating el_jefe
05:53 <armabot> luke-jr: el_jefe is 1st with a rating of 1912-2164 (from 1890-2154)
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21:33 <luke-jr> #rating greenmonster|gz
21:33 <armabot> luke-jr: greenmonster|gz is 592nd with a rating of 1476-1514 (from 1473-1508)
21:34 <luke-jr> #aka greenmonster|gz
21:34 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3270 gr!n gr!nd3r greenmonster|gz
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22:21 <wrtlprnft> http://htop.sourceforge.net/128.png
22:21  * wrtlprnft wants a machine with 128 cores :(
22:22 <wrtlprnft> and tons of ram
22:23 <wrtlprnft> apparently they figured they had so much ram they don't need a swap partition :D
22:42 <K-Yo> that can be fast enough for arma? oO
22:45 <luke-jr> :O
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22:49 <cusco> lol
22:49 <cusco> woa
22:49 <cusco> thats quality
22:50 <cusco> 882gigs ram
22:56 <luke-jr> lol
23:08 <wrtlprnft> strip off the first two digits of that number and you get the amount i have
23:09 <luke-jr> I have about 4 or 5 GB
23:09 <luke-jr> across 4 or 5 computers :þ
23:18 <cusco> lol
23:19 <cusco> I also have 2gigs
23:31 <luke-jr> I have 3 gigs in my desktop server
23:31 <luke-jr> which I should probably make my desktop one of these days
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Log from 2008-01-03:
--- Day changed Thu Jan 03 2008
00:07 <K-Yo> luke-jr, u here?
00:07 <luke-jr> I am in #armalukechat too
00:08 <K-Yo> luke-jr, what is the number when i use the aka?
00:08 <K-Yo> .aka |<
00:08 <K-Yo> #aka |<
00:08 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿3774 cttxk-yo2 |< baguette la_baguette la_ctt-baguette la_boulange la_boulangerie la_ctt-confitur la_confiture |<-bette |<-guette cttxbaguette cttxbagu cttxk-yo
00:08 <luke-jr> UID
00:08 <K-Yo> ?
00:08 <K-Yo> user ID?
00:10 <luke-jr> yes
00:10 <luke-jr> basically, the UID has the actual ratings
00:10 <luke-jr> the names are just saying "this is UID 3774"
00:12 <K-Yo> ok
00:12 <K-Yo>  how long does it take for the armabot to remember an aka?
00:12 <K-Yo> #aka cttK-Yo
00:12 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'cttk-yo'!
00:13 <K-Yo> i used it today and yesterday
00:13 <K-Yo> no, only today
00:16 <K-Yo> .cters
00:26 <luke-jr> K-Yo: it doesn't take time
00:26 <luke-jr> well, maybe a few seconds
00:30 <epsy> luke-jr, ah
00:30 <epsy> i found myself with multiple UIDs
00:30 <epsy> #aka epsy
00:30 <armabot> epsy: ¿3427 epsybic epsy pep|x|i epu|x|y epsy|x|
00:30 <epsy> #aka |x|epsy
00:30 <armabot> epsy: ¿3832 |x|epsy2 |x|baguette |x|epsy
00:30 <epsy> #aka epussy
00:30 <armabot> epsy: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2
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00:36 <luke-jr> epsy: your fault :D
00:37 <luke-jr> epsy: make sure you rename in a participating server
00:37 <luke-jr> pick one you want to keep and rename to the others
00:37 <luke-jr> it will overwrite them
00:37 <luke-jr> eg, enter as epussy and rename to |x|epsy
00:37 <luke-jr> then |x|epsy will be on uid 143
00:38 <K-Yo> which are the participating servers?
00:38 <epsy> do you keep an up-to-date list of participating servers?
00:38 <zmanuel> So, when I enter that server as |x|epsy and rename to z-man, I'll steal epsy's stats? :)
00:38 <epsy> hehehe
00:38 <K-Yo> #whoisranked1?
00:38 <epsy> .aka ¿1
00:38 <epsy> #aka ¿1
00:38 <K-Yo> player1
00:39 <armabot> epsy: ¿1 player_1
00:39 <epsy> yea
00:39 <epsy> :D
00:39 <K-Yo> that's not a rank :(
00:39 <epsy> #help aka
00:39 <armabot> epsy: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
00:39 <K-Yo> .rank
00:39 <epsy> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/
00:39 <luke-jr> epsy: not really
00:39 <epsy> carnage if i remember
00:39 <luke-jr> zmanuel: you'll share them
00:39 <epsy> luke-jr, give an example
00:40 <luke-jr> epsy: Eclipsed non-training
00:40 <K-Yo> #aka eclipsed
00:40 <epsy> wot's that ?
00:40 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'eclipsed'!
00:40 <luke-jr> epsy: a server
00:40 <epsy> #sd eclip
00:40 <armabot> epsy: .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan TRAINER :.: Players (4/4): Kokain, NicoNitro, paper monster, Wolf.18
00:40 <epsy> #sd non-tra
00:40 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “non-tra” at the moment, sorry.
00:40 <epsy> #sd eclipsed non
00:40 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “eclipsed non” at the moment, sorry.
00:40 <epsy> ...
00:41 <K-Yo> #si eclipse'd no
00:41 <epsy> *#sd
00:41 <K-Yo> #sd eclipse'd no
00:41 <armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “eclipse\'d no” at the moment, sorry.
00:41 <K-Yo> #sd non
00:41 <epsy> luke-jr, does fort café participate?
00:41 <armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “non” at the moment, sorry.
00:41 <luke-jr> epsy: yes
00:42 <epsy> ok easier :p
00:42 <luke-jr> #sd "eclipse'd"
00:42 <K-Yo> indeed
00:42 <armabot> luke-jr: .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan TRAINER :.: Players (4/4): Kokain, NicoNitro, paper monster, Wolf.18
00:42 <luke-jr> meh
00:42 <luke-jr> not that oen
00:42 <K-Yo> #tea
00:42 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
00:43 <K-Yo> #sd UK di
00:43 <armabot> K-Yo: .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - UK Division :.: No online players.
00:43 <epsy> ok thanks, cu
00:43 <K-Yo> this one?
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01:32 <luke-jr> K-Yo: no
01:32 <luke-jr> US
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15:32 <epsy> main forums down
15:42 <wrtlprnft> ?
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16:36 <z-man> epsy: working fine for me
16:38 <epsy> seems to be back online
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20:23 <wrtlprnft> #
20:23 <wrtlprnft> #ping
20:23 <armabot> pong
20:27 <spidey> #nub
20:27 <spidey> http://wtfhax.net/hax/?page=viewtopic&id=1
20:27 <spidey> =D
20:28 <spidey> i'm writing a forum now o.O
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20:33 <Bougo> hehe
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21:04 <mkzelda> love that moment when you figure out a new song on guitar
21:04 <mkzelda> hows it goin arma ppls
21:09 <libervisco> http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com/content/armagetron-advanced-tournament
21:09 <libervisco> :)
21:11 <mkzelda> oh fun
21:12 <mkzelda> libervisco: and the next round of nexuiz?
21:12 <libervisco> as soon as we finish remaining group qualifications
21:12 <libervisco> I'm sending a last all around reminder to everyone with a week time to show up (those who didn't) before disqualifications
21:13 <libervisco> that's really the last one, and should speed qualifications up.. when opponent doesn't show, the one who did deserves qualification just for showing up
21:13 <libervisco> http://www.nuxified.org/blog/freedomware_gamefest_2007_becomes_2007_2008_1
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21:14 <mkzelda> Freedomware Gamefest 2007/2008.1
21:14 <mkzelda> what about .0?
21:14 <for> wrtl your here?
21:14 <libervisco> Oh well it's not really official name.. someone also suggested 2007+1 :)
21:15 <for> 2008.1 lol
21:15 <for> oh how its going with the gamefest actually/
21:16 <mkzelda> arma was slow to sign up, so theres like 10 ppl
21:16 <libervisco> Well AA is getting ready to begin, I'm sending last reminders for other tourneys qualifications.. should be entering Stage 2 for most rather soon I hope :)
21:16 <mkzelda> but it seems that remulous, open arena, and nexuiz have done well
21:16 <for> lol, almost noone knows about
21:16 <mkzelda> i mentioned it in-game on nexuiz and arma servers for months
21:16 <mkzelda> it was on digg several times
21:17 <for> yes?
21:17 <mkzelda> the digg links and the nuxified site were spammed in the respective games' irc channels
21:17 <mkzelda> and on the respective games' forums
21:17 <libervisco> Maybe this tourney helps when we announce the winner and give prize :P
21:17 <mkzelda> not much more u can do
21:17 <for> maybe it could have need promoted on fortress/sumo servers
21:17 <mkzelda> someone can drop into the super bowl w/ a NUXIFIED.ORG parachute
21:17 <for> that are the most dedicated sercers
21:18 <libervisco> :D
21:18 <libervisco> mkzelda, or freedomware-gamefest.com? :P
21:18 <for> i tried to signup, but i didnt. wasnt sure where to post or how to ;)
21:18 <libervisco> for, where are you from?
21:18 <for> oh, need to renick
21:19 <for> im from the netherlands ;)
21:19 <mkzelda> netherlands
21:19 <libervisco> ah more from EU :D
21:19 <for> idk if you know me, but im freako
21:19 <wrtlprnft> for: yeah
21:19 <libervisco> We already have one too much from there for groups
21:19 <for> wrtl
21:20 <for> can you do something for me if it isnt to much work?
21:20 <wrtlprnft> well, what?
21:20 <for> can you ip check f0rz4 on fort cafe server? he was on about 20 minutes ago
21:20 <for> if he has played under different names
21:20 <wrtlprnft> what do you wanna know about him/her?
21:21 <mkzelda> im guessing he/she is a racing enthousiast
21:22 <for> if he has played under different names, and if it could his other name
21:22 <for> maybe zelda forza motorsport :D
21:22 <mkzelda> right
21:22 <mkzelda> it means strength
21:22 <for> was the irc just down for several minutes? i couldnt connect to it
21:22 <mkzelda> no
21:23 <for> strange, my pc does strange last time,
21:23 <for> it says it doesnt have internet connection and i still can play arma online,,, but not browse internet
21:24 <for> #sd Zonetest
21:24 <armabot> for: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zonetest” at the moment, sorry.
21:24 <for> shit stupid router
21:25 <wrtlprnft>  993430 [14] -.0 plays for Team blue.
21:25 <wrtlprnft> that's the same ip…
21:25 <for> mmmmm....
21:25 <wrtlprnft> that's it, at least for the last million log lines
21:26 <mkzelda> go back another 75 million
21:27 <for> for a million log lines, that would be several days?
21:27 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:27 <for> with much spammers :/
21:27 <wrtlprnft> currently opening the last 76 million log lines
21:27 <for> haha
21:28 <mkzelda> haha
21:28 <wrtlprnft> the people on café will thank you mkzelda 
21:28 <for> we all are part of history on your server
21:28 <mkzelda> ill tell them you're dling pr0n
21:29 <wrtlprnft> and then viewing it using aalib
21:29 <wrtlprnft> sounds fun
21:29 <wrtlprnft> ASCII pr0n
21:29 <mkzelda> haha
21:30 <mkzelda> libcaca for color ascii pr0n
21:31 <for>  #show wrtlpronbrowser
21:31 <wrtlprnft> ok, don't use vim with large files
21:31 <wrtlprnft>   PID USER     PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
21:31 <wrtlprnft>  1464 armagetr  18   0  561M  531M  2232 R 47.3 53.1  0:13.01 view -
21:31 <mkzelda> does anyone actually use it other than that guy who made star trek play in ascii over a telnet motd?
21:31 <mkzelda> i mean, i use it sometimes for shits and giggles
21:32 <wrtlprnft> i sometimes use xaos in aalib mode
21:34 <libervisco> Ok here's a scheduling thread for AA tourney: http://www.nuxified.org/topic/armagetron_advanced_tournament_scheduling
21:34 <for> wich gametype?
21:34 <libervisco> LMS
21:35 <for> high, low r?
21:35 <wrtlprnft> ok, how do you kill a vim session that has gone mad?
21:35 <wrtlprnft> kill -9 doesn't work o_O
21:35 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda DOSd my server!
21:35 <for> haha
21:35 <libervisco> for, two times low, one time high OR depending on player vote :)
21:35 <libervisco> best compromise I could think of for everyone
21:36 <for> is there coming one more if this one will be good?
21:36 <libervisco> Gamefest 2008, yeah..
21:36 <for> 2008+1 you mean ;P
21:37 <libervisco> but it's not necessarily so much for this being a blazing success as much as this one being a great learning experience and also material gathering thing that sets a great base for the best gamefest ever :)
21:37 <libervisco> for, and nope, it'd be the real official 2008 one :)
21:37 <libervisco> this one is 2007+1 or 2007/2008.1 or 2008.0 whichever you like ;)
21:38 <for> i like 2009-1 more :D
21:38 <libervisco> :D
21:38 <for> with my little more as basic understanding of pc-s wrtl i say kill vim with a baseballbat :P
21:40 -!- for is now known as freako
21:41 <freako> i always ask the hard and long finding questions :(
21:47 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: kill -9 should work
21:47 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: less is nice on large files
21:47 <luke-jr_> err
21:48 <luke-jr_> 'less'
21:48 <freako> he tried but didnt work :(
21:58 <wrtlprnft> actually the problem was that i didn't do kill -9 but used htop
21:58 <MrBougo> :o
21:58 <wrtlprnft> but that instance of htop was running as a different user than the vim
21:59 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: but i have seen processes that wouldn't quit on kill -9
21:59 <freako> idk what that means :(
21:59 <freako> but are you able to find it or have I false hope?
22:00 <wrtlprnft> find what?
22:00 <wrtlprnft> #man find
22:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: SYNOPSIS || find - search for files in a directory hierarchy
22:00 <freako> oh wrtl that ip, i was for :(
22:00 <wrtlprnft> oh
22:00 <freako> forgot i had a stupid name XD
22:00 <wrtlprnft>
22:01 <freako> ty, now i only need to find the guy with that ip :D
22:03 <wrtlprnft> why are you after him/her/it, anyways?
22:03 <wrtlprnft> epsy is in ¦x¦? O_O
22:04 <freako> yes 0.o
22:04 <freako> Hostname Country Code Country Name Region Region Name City Postal Code Latitude Longitude ISP Organization Metro Code Area Code
22:04 <freako> GB United Kingdom     54.0000 -2.0000 Opal Telecom Opal Telecom
22:05 <freako> someone in X from Uk
22:05 <freako> infa/rico/legio
22:07 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: impossible, I'm pretty sure
22:07 <luke-jr_> at worst, it should leave a zombie
22:08 <luke-jr_> which means it is not running, nor using memory
22:08 <wrtlprnft> i once had an unkillable modprobe command
22:12 <epsy> ?
22:12 <luke-jr_> #rating |x|epsy
22:12 <armabot> luke-jr_: |x|epsy is 237th with a rating of 1543-1585 (from 1538-1575)
22:12 <freako> mmmm... not infa i checked his ip with wereabouts impossible
22:12 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: modprobe might be an exception ☺
22:13 <epsy> merging all my nicks was maybe a wrong decision :P
22:13 <epsy> freako, uyou're on the earplugs case?
22:14 <luke-jr_> #aka epsy
22:14 <armabot> luke-jr_: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2 |x|frenchellent epu|x|y epsybic epsy pep|x|i epsy|x| |x|epsy
22:14 <luke-jr_> oh, you did
22:14 <luke-jr_> wd epsy
22:14 <freako> no, something else
22:14 <freako> i ip checked a player
22:14 <freako> or wrtl did
22:14 <luke-jr_> #aka ¿3427
22:14 <armabot> luke-jr_: ¿3427
22:14 <luke-jr_> #aka ¿3832
22:14 <armabot> luke-jr_: ¿3832 |x|epsy2 |x|baguette
22:14 <freako> i found out where he lives but cant find aplyer close it it
22:14 <epsy> mh
22:14 <luke-jr_> epsy: not quite all :þ
22:14 <epsy> lol
22:14 <epsy> gotta rename
22:15 <freako> epsy you know the whereabouts from rico and legio?
22:16 <luke-jr_> epsy: fyi, you are currently the best player playing
22:16 <epsy> haha
22:16 <epsy> not a reason to distract me :þ
22:16 <luke-jr_> :þ
22:17 <epsy> freako, ?
22:17 <freako> it isnt legio either\
22:17 <freako> wich X-es come from GB except rico/infa/legio?
22:17 <freako> if none that IP is from rico for sure
22:18 <epsy> hm
22:19 <epsy> maybe aeon ?
22:19 <freako> idk for sure
22:19 <MrBougo> http://watchout4snakes.com/creativitytools/RandomSentence/RandomSentence.aspx
22:19 <MrBougo> that would be nice for armabot
22:19 <MrBougo> #markov
22:19 <freako> he is X for sure
22:20 <epsy> haha
22:20 <epsy> why?
22:20 <epsy> and who?
22:20 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins/Markov.html
22:21 <freako> fuck, they al dont life close to it :(
22:22 <freako> idk if aeon is :(
22:22 <freako> or rico
22:22 <epsy> freako, what are you fcking searching for????
22:22 <freako> the player behind this ip
22:22 <freako>
22:22 <epsy> and where did you get this ip goddamn
22:23 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: yeah?
22:23 <luke-jr_> yeah
22:23 <epsy> it's just a random ip?
22:23 <freako> no
22:23 <armabot> luke-jr: styhack?
22:23 <epsy> you're playing choose random ip and search an arma player?
22:23 <epsy> then sSAY IT
22:23 <freako> no
22:23 <wrtlprnft> #list markov
22:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: firsts, follows, lasts, markov, pairs, and stats
22:23 <freako> Hostname Country Code Country Name Region Region Name City Postal Code Latitude Longitude ISP Organization Metro Code Area Code
22:23 <wrtlprnft> #firsts
22:23 <luke-jr_> #aka -.o
22:23 <freako> GB United Kingdom     54.0000 -2.0000 Opal Telecom Opal Telecom
22:23 <armabot> luke-jr_: I don't know anything about '-.o'!
22:24 <freako> no epsy not random
22:24 <luke-jr_> #markov hi
22:24 <epsy> where did you get the ip..
22:24 <freako> from wrtl
22:24 <luke-jr_> #help markov
22:24 <armabot> luke-jr_: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
22:24 <luke-jr_> #markov lame
22:24 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: it's not working ☹
22:25 <wrtlprnft> no clue why
22:25 <wrtlprnft> nothing in the logs
22:25 <luke-jr_> #list markov
22:25 <armabot> luke-jr_: firsts, follows, lasts, markov, pairs, and stats
22:25 <luke-jr_> #stats
22:25 <freako> wrtl gave me the ip, i know the location, but i dont know all other locations to check with
22:25 <armabot> luke-jr_: I have 30 registered users with 28 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
22:25 <luke-jr_> #pairs
22:25 <luke-jr_> #markov stats
22:25 <luke-jr_> #markov firsts
22:25 <luke-jr_> that entire module is dead
22:25 <wrtlprnft> #reload Markov
22:26 <luke-jr_> reload it maybe?
22:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:26 <wrtlprnft> #firsts
22:26 <luke-jr_> #markov
22:26 <armabot> o
22:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There are 1565 firsts in my Markov database for #armagetron.
22:26 <luke-jr_> :/
22:26 <luke-jr_> #markov stats
22:26 <armabot> luke-jr_: Firsts: 1566; Lasts: 2425; Pairs: 15271; Follows: 16740
22:26 <epsy> ...
22:27 <freako> from fort cafe server from a certain player name
22:27 <freako> a certain smurf
22:27 <epsy> goddamn
22:27 <freako> he lives between machester and middlesbrough :/
22:27 <epsy> g i v e  t h e  f u c k i n g  n a m e
22:28 <freako> no
22:28 <epsy> why?
22:28 <freako> you can watch the logs on wrtl site though :(
22:28 <freako> ok ok, on f0rz4 ;)
22:28 <epsy> along with the config files ? *koff* noob7_away *koff*
22:29 <epsy> him.
22:29 <freako> ?
22:29 <epsy> 10 minutes to get a fucking name
22:29 <epsy> wow
22:29 <freako> LOL
22:29 <freako> why did u want to know?
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22:31 <freako> .epsy why did u wanna know?
22:32 <epsy> i can't help you with a suggestion if i don't know who he is
22:32 <epsy> he can't be rico
22:32 <freako> y not?
22:33 <epsy> rico's away
22:33 <freako> he isnt ;) he plays once a while
22:33 <epsy> he said he'ill be until next afl
22:33 <luke-jr_> epsy:  -.o
22:33 <freako> i saw him a few times though, or hes fake ;(
22:34 <freako> it is someone with the rights to watch X members forum
22:34 <epsy> why?
22:35 <freako> i got my own reasons for that ;)
22:35 <freako> he lives in gb
22:35 <epsy> and?
22:35 <freako> and its not infa or legio, because they live to far away for that
22:36 <epsy> why would it be someone who can watch the x forums?
22:36 <freako> its someone living near......leeds
22:36 <epsy> wtf
22:36 <freako> no, he can see members forum
22:37 <freako> he lives northwest of leeds ;)
22:37 <epsy> earplugs
22:37 <freako> can earplugs read members forum?
22:37 <epsy> but he doesn't have access to the x clan boards
22:37 <freako> then it istn him
22:37 <epsy> and i also don't know why he should
22:37 <epsy> if you told me why..
22:37 <freako> I cant :(
22:38 <freako> thats personal :(
22:38 <epsy> how can't you?
22:38 <epsy> pm me then
22:38 <freako> to painfull :(
22:38 <freako> for me :(
22:45 <epsy> well i can't help you then
22:46 <freako> ?
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22:48 <epsy> if you don't tell me why you think he has access to our forums then i can't help yiou
22:48 <freako> i said in private :/
22:49 <freako> i think
22:49 <epsy> didn't recieve it
22:49 <freako> lol do i need to make it clearer ?
22:49 <epsy> freako, #arma.xclan
22:49 <freako> #arma xclan
22:49 <freako> ?
22:49 <epsy> not a space...
22:49 <freako> #arma.xclan
22:50 <freako> #armaxclan
22:50 <freako> ?!?@?!?
22:50 <epsy> /join #arma.xclan
23:04 <luke-jr_> epsy: don't know how to use PM? :þ
23:05 <epsy> he can't
23:05 <epsy> he's not registered
23:05 <freako> lol
23:05 <luke-jr_> so?
23:05 <freako> half my messages dont come ti him :/
23:05 <epsy> not any of them
23:05 <freako> lol
23:05 <luke-jr_> /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
23:05 <luke-jr_> or yes or something
23:06 <cusco> or should he register his nick instead
23:06 <luke-jr_> heh
23:06 <cusco> :D
23:06 <luke-jr_> his nick is registered…
23:06 <cusco> er
23:06 <freako> lol
23:06 <freako> rly?
23:07 <luke-jr_> yes
23:07 <luke-jr_> you're HIJACKING someone else's NICK
23:07 <freako> strange
23:07 <luke-jr_> evil
23:07 <cusco> ah!
23:07 -!- deja_vu_ [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron
23:07 <luke-jr_> last used over a year ago tho
23:07 <freako> i use this nick for 5 years luke-jr ;)
23:07 <luke-jr_> so go in #freenode and demand it be returned
23:07 <cusco> or identify yourselv to nickserv
23:07 <freako> lol
23:07 <luke-jr_> or just tell cusco to go f himself
23:08 <freako> yes!
23:08 <cusco> or tell luke-jr_ that god does not exist
23:08 <freako> go F yourself cusco
23:08 <freako> cLuke jr God Doesn Exist ;0
23:08 <luke-jr_> freako: liar
23:08 <cusco> haha
23:08 <epsy> #sd -v god
23:08 <freako> :)
23:08 <armabot> epsy: GOD DOES NOT EXISTS - Thank you - (high rubber and high speed) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20071210 unix dedic, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (7/8): (RD)2men5, aap, cRACKING, Dallas, s-o-a-r, SK|CodyMaverick, xdevil killer
23:08 <freako> haha
23:08 <epsy> he doesn'T
23:08 <cusco> hahahaha
23:08 <epsy>  http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers
23:09 <cusco> doees it has players?
23:09 <cusco> o.O
23:09 <epsy> 7/8
23:09 <freako> lol
23:09 <cusco> woa
23:09 <epsy> the name sucks for a server tho
23:09 <cusco> i guess those 7 would not totally agree
23:10 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as luke-jr
23:10 <freako> they are prisoners in that server or?
23:10 <freako> or free will>? unlikely
23:10 <epsy> #slap freako
23:11 <epsy> #kill freako
23:11 <freako> #spank epsy
23:11 <armabot> epsy slaps freako for being a raving moron.
23:11 <epsy> :D
23:11 <freako> #slap epsy
23:11 <armabot> freako will die on Thu Jan  3 23:13:45 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by epsy
23:11 <epsy> armabot is slow today
23:11 <armabot> freako slaps epsy for being a raving moron.
23:11 <freako> #kill epsy
23:11 <armabot> epsy will die on Thu Jan  3 23:14:19 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by freako
23:11 <freako> damned
23:12 <freako> you live 34 secons longer then me :(
23:12 <epsy> that's...
23:12 <epsy> now
23:12 <freako> yes!
23:12 <epsy> i'm not dead
23:12 <freako> you are, your dog is chatting now
23:12 <epsy> o - silence
23:12 <epsy> i don't own a dog
23:12 <freako> my cat is chatting 2
23:13 <epsy> jaja
23:13 <freako> a dog from the street then :/
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23:18 <epsy> u made her die freako :(
23:18 <freako> yes :(
23:19 <epsy> #eliza how you doin?
23:19 <epsy> :/
23:20 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
23:20 <freako> lol
23:20 <ct|kyle> epsy: Quite scaring luke-jr away
23:21 <ct|kyle> even though it is the truth
23:21 <freako> lol
23:21 <freako> haha
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23:22 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope
23:23 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
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23:30 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: LIES
23:30 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you
23:30  * ct|kyle tells Truth
23:31 <ct|kyle> .aka luke-jr
23:31 <ct|kyle> #aka luke-jr
23:31 <luke-jr> clearly not
23:32 <luke-jr> …
23:32 <luke-jr> #echo i am slow
23:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿8 luke-jr
23:32 <armabot> i am slow
23:32 <ct|kyle> anywar what it the ? thing at the start
23:32 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: UID
23:32 <luke-jr> I already told you that
23:32 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: LIES
23:33 <luke-jr> u
23:35 <ct|kyle> nope you
23:36 <luke-jr> uuu
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23:45 <ct|kyle> but you host a server that Disbelieves in GOD
23:45 <flea> awesome
23:45 <flea> where can i find that server
23:45 <ct|kyle> #serverinfo GOD DOES
23:46 <ct|kyle> still must not be working
23:46 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “god does” at the moment, sorry.
23:47 <ct|kyle> GOD DOES NOT EXISTS - Thank you - (high rubber and high speed)
23:47 <flea> lol
23:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7447 / (4 files in 3 dirs): Moved config_common.h to config_common.h.in for the Mac so no SVN files get modified by process_files.rb.
23:48 -!- flea [n=blia@] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:52 <cusco> just found out google is a bad moda ass woopin haxor lol
23:52 <cusco> http://www.google.com/search?hl=xx-hacker&q=cool
23:53 <z-man> More from the z-man-blowing-up-our-revision-count-departement
23:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7448 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Should have tested the last commit :)
23:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7449 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Ok, ok, now it's working again.

Log from 2008-01-04:
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00:00 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I don't own, admin, or endorse it.
00:01 <ct|kyle> you endorse for hosting on it luke-jr
00:01 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: learn English and logic
00:02 <GodTodd> or smth
00:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7450 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed bug that made all player names blank on the client side on the initial sync.
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00:44 <vinavil> epsy: let me take a drink
00:44 <epsy> not you're enough drunk like that :«
00:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you there?
00:46 <epsy> hm
00:46 <epsy> obviousely not
00:47 <vinavil> here i am
00:50 <vinavil> so, the trick would be to have a feedbacks.txt file with this layout:
00:50 <vinavil> Player:
00:50 <vinavil> Comment:
00:50 <vinavil> (if possible)Date and Time:
00:50 <vinavil> Example:
00:50 <vinavil> Player: rain
00:50 <vinavil> Comment: more rubber!
00:50 <vinavil> 20/12/08 21.34GMT
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01:53 <spidey> We're sorry...
01:53 <spidey> ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
01:53 <spidey> :|
01:53 <spidey> go die google :<
01:53 <epsy> what did you fcking to do it ? :D
01:54 <spidey> ...
01:54 <epsy> was going to say dat
01:54 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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02:52 <spidey> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/meth_addicts_demand_government
02:56 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 28.9°F (7:57 PM CST on January 03, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.18 in 988.0 hPa (Falling).
04:35 <libervisco> When talking about rubber, we're referring to CYCLE_RUBBER right?
04:36 <libervisco> There are various rubber related commands here, that one seems most basic http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands
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06:52 <luke-jr> #armaconfig LIMIT_ROUNDS
06:52 <armabot> luke-jr: LIMIT_ROUNDS: End the match after this number of rounds (default: 10) || SP_LIMIT_ROUNDS: End the match after this number of rounds in single player mode (default: 10)
06:52 <luke-jr> libervisco: note the seperate SP settings ☺
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08:17  * IAB flicks spidey's ear
08:18 <spidey> ...
08:18 <IAB> <-- burns :-)
08:18 <spidey> BURNS
08:18 <spidey> 'sup dewd
08:18 <IAB> not too much
08:18 <IAB> long time no see..
08:18 <spidey> indeed
08:18 <IAB> I'm attempting to wrangle together a hold the flag server
08:18 <spidey> capture the flag?
08:19 <IAB> no - hold the flag
08:19 <spidey> o.O
08:19 <IAB> think tron version of smear the queer
08:19 <spidey> lol
08:19 <spidey> i haven't played tron in awhile
08:19 <IAB> I was gunna call the server that, but with my luck it'd get banned from the master server list for language
08:20 <spidey> but i'm about  to go play cs:s , you got jabber/aim/msn/yahoo? =D
08:20 <IAB> aim - warmflatsprite
08:20 <IAB> talk to lizz lately?
08:20 <spidey> couple days ago
08:20 <IAB> ah
08:21 <IAB> when you talk to her next - tell her I said hello
08:21 <spidey> k
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08:50 <IAB> what's the automatic respawn setting?
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09:10 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy* i am here.
09:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:10 <wrtlprnft> gotta love those super-pointless messages
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10:06 <wrtlprnft>  10:06:53 up 355 days, 0 min, 11 users,  load average: 2.94, 1.63, 0.66
10:07 <wrtlprnft> :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
10:10 <tramshed> who wants some obfuscated c?
10:11 <IAB> thedailywtf.com does
10:11 <tramshed> they dont seem to accept dccs.
10:12 <IAB> dccs?
10:13 <tramshed> new to irc I take it
10:13 <tramshed> welcome to the asshole of the internet
10:13 <IAB> ha
10:13 <IAB> not exactly new
10:13 <IAB> just ignorant :-p
10:13 <tramshed> lol
10:14 <IAB> IAB == "Ignorant American Bastard"
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10:14 <tramshed> sweety
10:19 <IAB> so what is dccs?
10:21 <wrtlprnft> file transfers on IRC
10:21 <IAB> ah
10:21 <IAB> funny - I've never transfered a file over IRC and I've been using it for years
10:22 <wrtlprnft> usually the geeks who use IRC have their own web server
10:22 <IAB> oh, I'm a geek
10:22 <IAB> jut not an IRC geek
10:22 <IAB> just*
10:23 <wrtlprnft> that's the point
10:23 <wrtlprnft> who needs file transfers over IRC if they have their own web server?
10:23 <IAB> oh, I see
10:24 <IAB> I thought you were referring to some IRC-related server like the one in the topic
10:24 <IAB> sorry - really tired
10:24 <IAB> actually - I'm going to bed.
10:24 <wrtlprnft> no problem :D
10:24 <wrtlprnft> good night
10:24 <IAB> g'night
10:28 <tramshed> I have a web server too!
10:29 <tramshed> im totally gay for internet!
10:34 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/armagetronad/?view=rev&rev=7450 ah, nice. That has annoyed me for quite a while. Didn't know it was a bug, though :D
10:41 <tramshed> oh
10:41 <tramshed> that reminds me
10:41 <tramshed> the dedicated server has a mem leak on bsd
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11:13  * wrtlprnft doesn't have a BSD system…
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12:50 <armabot> pingwinek: kaliber * r11034 /trunk/packages/armagetronad/ (. armagetronad.box): - initial
12:58 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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14:03 <MrBougo> lol wrtlprnft
14:05 <wrtlprnft> ?
14:06 <MrBougo> [13:01] < wrtlprnft> o_O
14:09 <epsy> #aka adio
14:09 <epsy> wrtlprnft, he meant it was a nice smiley
14:09 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about 'adio'!
14:10 <epsy> #aka adolf
14:10 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about 'adolf'!
14:10 <MrBougo> #markov
14:11 <MrBougo> #help markov
14:11 <armabot> MrBougo: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
14:11 <wrtlprnft> #markov
14:11 <wrtlprnft> #reload Markov
14:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:11 <wrtlprnft> #markov
14:11 <epsy> .. he fucking played in a participating serv..
14:11 <armabot> hehe
14:11 <wrtlprnft> hehe indeed
14:11 <wrtlprnft> #markov
14:12 <wrtlprnft> #reload Markov
14:12 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:12 <wrtlprnft> #markov
14:12 <epsy> lol
14:12 <wrtlprnft> … … … … … …
14:12 <MrBougo> seems like we fed it too much
14:12 <armabot> yes
14:12 <MrBougo> hrhrhrhr
14:12 <epsy> haha
14:12 <wrtlprnft> !!!
14:12 <MrBougo> #markov brb
14:13 <armabot> brb
14:13 <MrBougo> i can't imagine how much time #wisdom will take
14:13 <epsy> #ping
14:13 <armabot> pong
14:13 <MrBougo> #piong
14:13 <armabot> poing
14:13 <epsy> she's just slow today :D
14:13 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: haha
14:13 <wrtlprnft> #insight
14:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The insipid oneness of current epistemologies will forever dissipate tomorrow's World Wide Web.
14:14 <MrBougo> #help crazylate
14:14 <armabot> MrBougo: (crazylate <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "babelize spanish english [translate english spanish $*]".
14:14 <MrBougo> #crazylate [insight]
14:14 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate".
14:14 <MrBougo> prft
14:14 <wrtlprnft> better fix that alias
14:14 <MrBougo> #alias add crazylate "babelize spanish english [babelfish translate english spanish $*]"
14:14 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
14:14 <MrBougo> #crazylate [insight]
14:15 <wrtlprnft> babelize?!
14:15 <wrtlprnft> #help babelize
14:15 <armabot> MrBougo: Madness without the precedent of the American system of justice to finish the self-esteem in the morning.
14:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (babelize <from-language> <to-language> <text>) -- Translates <text> repeatedly between <from-language> and <to-language> until it doesn't change anymore or 12 times, whichever is fewer. One of the languages must be English.
14:15 <epsy> lol
14:15 <MrBougo> hrhrhr
14:15 <wrtlprnft> omg.
14:15 <MrBougo> #crazylate Translates <text> repeatedly between <from-language> and <to-language> until it doesn't change anymore or 12 times, whichever is fewer. One of the languages must be English.
14:15 <armabot> MrBougo: She translates in the to center in until several occasions and him she does not change dwells or 12 times, any person is less. One of the languages must be English.
14:16 <MrBougo> :o
14:16 <wrtlprnft> dwells?
14:16 <MrBougo> no idea
14:16 <epsy> #babelize english french i can't imagine how much time #wisdom will take
14:16 <wrtlprnft> the last sentence stayed the same!
14:16 <MrBougo> #babelfish translate en fr dwells
14:16 <epsy> takes its time
14:16 <armabot> epsy: Je ne peux pas imaginer combien d'heure # de la sagesse prendra
14:17 <MrBougo> :p
14:17 <armabot> MrBougo: angles de saturation
14:17 <MrBougo> hahahhahahhaahhahaa
14:17 <epsy> sux, it's almost accurate :/
14:17 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: Dwell angle, a term used in automotive context, indicating the degrees of rotation of the distributor cam during which the ignition contact breaker points in the distributor are closed.
14:17 <MrBougo> hehe epsy
14:17 <MrBougo> #crazylate sux, it's almost accurate :/ sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate
14:18 <MrBougo> now this wont be accurate
14:18 <epsy> :D
14:18 <MrBougo> another way to generate random sentences
14:18 <armabot> MrBougo: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
14:18 <MrBougo> :(
14:18 <MrBougo> #crazylate sux, it's almost accurate :/ sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux, it's almost accurate sux
14:18 <MrBougo> Can epsy excuse the gnome? Wrtlprnft exemplifies the genre. Epsy complains inside this road. Epsy keeps the mindless tribe inside the reactionary constant. Without the logical lawyer matures epsy. When will the alliance bang against the contributor?
14:19 <MrBougo> Epsy eliminates the terrifying incompetent below the amazed fountain. The walking stiff jumps into wrtlprnft. The sick negative graduates wrtlprnft. The bite lusts inside the duck. Epsy argues underneath the directing ribbon.
14:19 <armabot> MrBougo: sux, is: almost exact/sux, is sux almost exact, there am is sux almost exact, there am is sux almost exact, there am is sux almost exact
14:19 <epsy> stop putting a cap letter to my nick
14:19 <MrBougo> sorry, the website does
14:19 <MrBougo> http://watchout4snakes.com/creativitytools/RandomParagraph/RandomParagraph.aspx
14:20 <MrBougo> Your expenditure schedules an ended torture against a guy.
14:20 <MrBougo> hahahahaha
14:20 <MrBougo> A tail lurks without the rhyme.
14:20 <MrBougo> these sentences are epic
14:21 <MrBougo> The life ducks.
14:26 <MrBougo> #crazylate The sinister joke worries. The carpet parades beneath the reporter! Our sunlight figures a concentrate within the split voter. The residence idles the lover. The simulate toe jerks the electorate before the provoked luggage. An expertise trails the chemist. The designate blood changes a clipped music. The water bolts above a hello. The fictional historian kisses the civilized leaflet. The hypocritical continental paces t
14:26 <MrBougo> he score arrival.
14:26 <MrBougo> oops
14:26 <MrBougo> that'll be too long
14:26 <MrBougo> #crazylate The simulate toe jerks the electorate before the provoked luggage. An expertise trails the chemist. The designate blood changes a clipped music. The water bolts above a hello.
14:26 <armabot> MrBougo: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
14:27 <armabot> MrBougo: The toe of the movements of the simulation of a pull to the electorate before the caused luggage. The friction of the masters to chemistry. The indicated blood changes a shortened music. By us of the water in hello.
14:27 <MrBougo> oh wow
14:28 <MrBougo> i wonder how "An expertise trails the chemist." became "The friction of the masters to chemistry."
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17:42 <StickyNoob> xxx hardcoding, these variables are so dirty they dont even know the meaning of #define
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7454 /armagetronad/trunk/ (20 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed)
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7407 to 7453:
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7453 | z-man | 2008-01-04 17:13:51 +0100 (Fri, 04 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad:  Hardcoding version for mac release.
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7452 | z-man | 2008-01-04 16:47:32 +0100 (Fri, 04 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
17:52 <K-Yo> ok
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18:15 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
18:20 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7456 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Updated mac release info.
18:20 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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18:38 <mkzelda> anyone do any aftermarket gpu cooling?
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19:05 <z-man> mkzelda: you mean, rip off the cooler that came with the graphics card and replace it with something else?
19:05 <z-man> I did that once with a GeForce 3.
19:05 <z-man> Heatpipes + passive cooling FTW.
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19:32  * epsy needs a log excerpt
19:35 <epsy> nvm, found one :)
19:36 <IAB> anyone feel like commenting on my server settings?
19:38 <IAB> on default port, or "Some Random Server Hold The Flag" in the master server list if so
19:38 <epsy> <3 hold the flag, i come :P
19:39 <epsy> hm
19:39 <IAB> ?
19:39 <IAB> no connecto?
19:39 <epsy> ctxt is NULL error :/
19:40 <IAB> can you put that in english -- or at least in newb?
19:40 <epsy> idk myself what it really means
19:40 <IAB> I program, so I know what null means
19:40 <IAB> and I'd guess that ctxt is a string somewhere
19:40 <IAB> or an object that's supposed to be instantiated, but isn't
19:40 <epsy> well i host an HTF map somewhere
19:41 <epsy> second
19:41 <IAB> but in the context of my server, I have no idea what that means
19:41 <epsy> http://kowsklan.free.fr/armamaps/   epsy/htf/twoxdentedsquare-0.0.3.aamap.xml
19:42 <IAB> that's the map I'm using, I believe
19:44 <IAB> problem with testing multiplayer settings is that you need multiple players :-/
19:44 <epsy> hrhr
19:45 <epsy> http://pastebin.ca/841522 if you need any example
19:47 <luke-jr> #rating |x|epsy
19:47 <IAB> thanks
19:47 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|epsy is 237th with a rating of 1542-1586 (from 1545-1584)
19:47 <epsy> luke-jr, merged all my nicks and lost 100 ranks :þ
19:48 <luke-jr> epsy: could've merged them all to the higher ranked one
19:48 <luke-jr> #aka |x|epsy
19:48 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2 |x|frenchellent epu|x|y epsybic epsy pep|x|i epsy|x| |x|epsy
19:48 <epsy> ah? lol
19:48 <epsy> thought it would be the same
19:48 <IAB> epsy: mind trying again?
19:48 <luke-jr> the rating is associated with the UID
19:48 <epsy> yes, let me a second
19:49 <IAB> nvm
19:49 <IAB> I put the map in the wrong spot
19:49 <luke-jr> right now it copies A->B
19:49 <epsy> heh
19:49 <luke-jr> I could make it do B->A based on RD, I guess
19:49 <luke-jr> but either way is a hack, really
19:49 <epsy> maybe calculate medium point?
19:49 <luke-jr> no
19:50 <luke-jr> medium point is pointless
19:50 <epsy> ^^
19:50 <luke-jr> if it's the same human, the rating is in reality the same
19:50 <luke-jr> and the lower RD is more accurate a prediction
19:52 <luke-jr> once we have authentication, it can use that ☺
19:54 <luke-jr> #rating ¤
19:54 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
19:54 <epsy> heh
19:54 <luke-jr> :O
19:54 <luke-jr> #rating ¤
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
19:55 <luke-jr> b0rked
19:55 <luke-jr> #rating "¤"
19:55 <epsy> b0rker!
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about '_'!
19:55 <luke-jr> there we go
19:55 <luke-jr> odd bug
19:55 <luke-jr> I vote we use ¤ to signify an authenticated account!
19:56 <luke-jr> since : is already permitted in mangled names
19:56 <luke-jr> #rating :
19:56 <armabot> luke-jr: : is 2094th with a rating of 1255-1341 (from 1256-1339)
19:56 <luke-jr> so ¤xmpp:luke@dashjr.org or xmpp¤luke@dashjr.org
19:59 <epsy> 	$command['command'] = $matches[4];
19:59 <epsy> i feel sick for writing such lines
20:00 <IAB> regex?
20:01 <IAB> be warned -- I'm not a perl person...
20:01 <epsy> i'm a perl regexp fan
20:01 <epsy> :«
20:01 <IAB> I like regex, but I just haven't used perl much
20:02 <epsy> that's php
20:02 <IAB> ah
20:02  * epsy also loves php cli O_o
20:02 <IAB> I think the syntax would work for perl too if it supported string indexers
20:02 <IAB> if it supports*
20:02 <luke-jr> it doesn't
20:02 <IAB> ah
20:02 <epsy> associative arrays :)
20:03 <luke-jr> $matches⚃ refers to the 4th item in the @matches array
20:03 <luke-jr> err
20:03 <luke-jr> where ⚃ is [ 4 ]
20:03 <epsy> lol
20:03 <IAB> every language calls it something different
20:03 <epsy> wtf is your [4] bound to ?
20:03 <luke-jr> ⚃
20:03 <luke-jr> the 4-side of a die
20:03 <IAB> I use C# a lot, so we'd call that a dictionary
20:03 <epsy> haha
20:03 <luke-jr> C# sucks
20:03 <IAB> sure sure
20:03 <luke-jr> IAB: Perl has 3 data types
20:03 <luke-jr> well, 4
20:04 <luke-jr> @ prefix is an array
20:04 <luke-jr> $ prefix is a scalar
20:04 <luke-jr> % prefix is a hash
20:04 <luke-jr> & prefix is code
20:04 <IAB> ah - perl lets you throw blocks around?
20:04 <luke-jr> @a = 1,2,3,4; makes an array with 4 elements
20:04 <epsy> you are making me think the only good thing in perl is pcre
20:04 <luke-jr> $a = 1; makes a scalar containing the number 1
20:05 <IAB> luke-jr: why does C# suck?
20:05 <luke-jr> @a and $a can coexist
20:05 <epsy> hello confusion
20:05 <luke-jr> %a = name=>value, x=>y; makes a hash
20:05 <luke-jr> $a evaluates to 1
20:05 <luke-jr> $a⚁ evaluates to 3
20:05  * luke-jr grr
20:05 <epsy> haha
20:05 <luke-jr> $a[ 2] evaluates to 3
20:05 <luke-jr> $a{x} evaluates to y
20:06 <luke-jr> sub a { "foo"; }
20:06 <luke-jr> &a or simply a evaluates to foo
20:06 <luke-jr> or even a(1,2,3,4) => foo
20:07 <luke-jr> $a = \&a;
20:07 <luke-jr> \ makes a scalar reference
20:07 <luke-jr> $a now contains a reference to &a
20:07 <luke-jr> &$a evaluates to foo now
20:07 <luke-jr> @a = %a;
20:08 <luke-jr> now @a is name, value, x, y
20:08 <luke-jr> I think
20:08 <luke-jr> it might be value, y
20:08 <luke-jr> not sure
20:08 <IAB> ok
20:08 <luke-jr> no, it's name,value,x,y
20:09 <IAB> epsy: I think I'm ready again
20:09 <IAB> I can connect, anyway :-p
20:10 <luke-jr> IAB: you should get your server to participate in ratings! :D
20:11 <luke-jr> epsy: you know Perl 6 is reinventing regex?
20:11 <luke-jr> totally different
20:15 <epsy> bff
20:34 <epsy> IAB, np yw
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21:00 <luke-jr> libervisco: …
21:01 <libervisco> luke-jr, ... to you too :P
21:01 <luke-jr> libervisco: I'm not on the gamefest lists ☹
21:04 <libervisco> luke-jr, well, you didn't confirm and respond to the last check.. I thought you were out or unavailable
21:04 <libervisco> But if you're from US you can be added actually..
21:04 <luke-jr> well, I never saw it :þ
21:05 <luke-jr> I am
21:06 <libervisco> You can be added as a substitute to the US group or we can make groups of 3 then
21:08 <libervisco> Like this? http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com/content/armagetron-advanced-tournament
21:08 <luke-jr> ok
21:15 <epsy> hrhr now i'm only facing rubber players
21:22 <IAB> so there's no easy way to promote this server other than having it on the master server list, eh?
21:22 <luke-jr> IAB: could post about it on the forums
21:23 <IAB> luke-jr: you said I should participate in ratings - ratings for what?
21:23 <IAB> er - my server should
21:23 <luke-jr> IAB: http://ratings.armagetronad.net
21:23 <luke-jr> what's your in-game name?
21:23 <flea> luke-jr: where are the stats from?
21:24 <luke-jr> flea: participating servers
21:24 <luke-jr> #rating flea
21:24 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'flea'!
21:24 <flea> #rating 42o
21:25 <armabot> flea: 42o is 149th with a rating of 1578-1669 (from 1579-1668)
21:25 <IAB> some_random_guy
21:25 <luke-jr> #rating some_random_guy
21:25 <flea> wewt
21:25 <armabot> luke-jr: some_random_guy is 780th with a rating of 1449-1597 (from 1450-1596)
21:25 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
21:25 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 918th with a rating of 1429-1483 (from 1431-1481)
21:26 <luke-jr> I suck :x
21:26 <flea> luke-jr: thats pretty cool thank ya
21:26 <IAB> brb phone
21:26 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7457 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/NEWS: Added luke's new commands
21:27 <luke-jr> flea: do you run any servers?
21:28 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what is FILTER_NAME_MIDDLE for? :x
21:28 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:29 <wrtlprnft> no clue?
21:29 <libervisco> epsy, I can exchange you with someone else?
21:30 <luke-jr> LAG_O_METER(TRESHOLD|BLEND|USE_OLD) <-- should there be an underscore before the last part?
21:30 <libervisco> epsy, I mean put you where there are other low rubber players..
21:30 <luke-jr> also, you forgot PLAYER_MESSAGE ☺
21:30 <epsy> libervisco, ah ? ok :P
21:30 <libervisco> epsy, which one, I don't know all players :P
21:31 <epsy> nvm, all group 2 are fort players
21:31 <libervisco> well the whole tourney is LMS.. so fort doesn't matter really..
21:32 <epsy> i meant, i play lms occasionally, but most of the fort players doesn't at all ^^
21:32 <libervisco> epsy, well worst case scenario is we'll split matches two times higher rubber and once low, based on how many players are for high or low
21:33 <libervisco> about that.. they all were fine with LMS
21:33 <libervisco> else they probably wouldn't confirm :)
21:33 <epsy> libervisco, nvm :D
21:33 <epsy> libervisco, yea that's what happened
21:34 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7458 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/Makefile.manual: Got rid of the spurious commit ;-)
21:34 <libervisco> btw, ping of 60-70 is fine?
21:34 <epsy> yes
21:34 <libervisco> on a server
21:35 <libervisco> What's the threshold generally (max ping tolerable for good gaming)?
21:35 <epsy> hm..
21:35 <epsy> depends on the lag compensation...aka rubber
21:35 <libervisco> in AA that is, I know quake based games have it around 100 max, but for good game around 50 or below
21:35 <epsy> for 5 rubber it would be 230 ping
21:35 <libervisco> oh
21:36 <epsy> but that would be the really max values
21:36 <libervisco> yeah :)
21:36 <libervisco> ok then :)
21:36 <epsy> players at 230+ ping would need to be experienced at that ping
21:37 <libervisco> right now in qualifications we have them nicely grouped, EU in EU and US in US
21:37 <epsy> yes
21:37 <libervisco> but it may happen in the stage 2 that some players face US vs EU
21:37 <libervisco> which is when we'll just have to rotate servers... play equal number of times on an EU server and then US...
21:38 <epsy> o btw
21:38 <libervisco> That's what we do in these situations for all other tourneys..
21:38 <epsy> i didn't see when does it start?
21:39 <IAB> it be nice if there was a way to do a distributed server
21:39 <libervisco> Depends on when everyone is available, by current groups if all three of them are available at a given time then we can propose a match or two then
21:39 <epsy> IAB, p2p?
21:39 <IAB> epsy: not exactly, just think EU server and US server both near main backbones so their latency to eachother was fairly low
21:40 <z-man> Nooo, not the spurious commit!
21:40 <IAB> that way EU players and US players can connect to the same arena at low ping
21:40 <epsy> generally tournements are organised at sundays 19 GMT
21:40 <epsy> IAB, submarine server :P
21:40 <IAB> it exists?
21:40 <epsy> no
21:40 <IAB> oh
21:41 <IAB> I was gunna say - that sounds like it'd be quite the can of worms
21:41 <epsy> « We're sorry but the server is down for the following reason: Excessive Flood »
21:41 <IAB> you'd have to manage time sync between the clients and servers, as well as the time sync between the two (or n) servers
21:41 <wrtlprnft> ah, i love those old cvs test days
21:42 <epsy> yea is old
21:42 <wrtlprnft> just faked those lovely server restart in x minutes messages
21:42 <epsy> :)
21:42 <wrtlprnft> z-man: :P
21:42 <luke-jr> IAB: yeah, I've thought about that
21:42 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: it's for names like “*            *”
21:43 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: so now I need to assume *__________* == *_* ?
21:43 <IAB> luke-jr: all in all - I'm not sure there'd be much performance increase, thoguh
21:43 <IAB> though*
21:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: only if _ == <space>
21:43 <luke-jr> IAB: probably would be
21:43 <wrtlprnft> :P
21:43 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ladderlog doesn't define that
21:43 <wrtlprnft> i know :P
21:43 <luke-jr> ☹
21:43 <IAB> luke-jr: in fact, it has some serious potential to cause performance decrease if you didn't have a nice short route from server to server
21:44 <luke-jr> plz remove it? XD
21:44 <luke-jr> IAB: not really
21:44 <IAB> why not?
21:44 <luke-jr> unless US players connect to a UK node
21:45 <IAB> eh, nvm - I see the increase
21:45 <flea> luke-jr: nah i dont run any arma servers currently
21:45 <flea> luke-jr: i enjoy everyone else's very much tho lol
21:46 <wrtlprnft> did anyone notice that we have 106 new lines of NEWS since
21:46 <epsy> you?
21:46 <IAB> ethernet-based protocols are serial - you can only transmit to one socket at any given time -- by having a single connection from EU to US that handles multiple users, you'd reduce the latency from multiple connections to the latency of one
21:46 <IAB> ... or something like tha
21:46 <IAB> that*
21:47 <flea> IAB: speakin of vip ?
21:47 <IAB> vip?
21:47 <flea> virt ip thru load balancer?
21:48 <luke-jr> IAB: also, the UK players would get updates from other UK players ASAP
21:48 <IAB> no
21:48 <luke-jr> and the US players would get updates from other US players ASAP
21:48 <IAB> luke-jr: but there'd still be a lag between UK and US
21:48 <luke-jr> yes, but there always will be
21:49 <IAB> luke-jr: the question is - would the lag be less between a UK user and a US user than if the UK users connected to a US server, or vice versa?
21:49 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7459 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/NEWS: small fixes, thanks luke-jr
21:49 <luke-jr> IAB: no
21:49 <luke-jr> UK vs US users: same lag
21:49 <luke-jr> UK vs UK users: minimal lag
21:49 <luke-jr> US vs US users: minimal lag
21:50 <IAB> with distributed/linked servers, UK v US would be the same or worse -- right?
21:50 <luke-jr> right now, you need to pick which of the last 2 get minimal lag
21:50 <luke-jr> right
21:50 <luke-jr> right now:
21:50 <luke-jr> UK vs US: same
21:50 <luke-jr> UK vs UK: "same"
21:50 <luke-jr> US vs US: minimal
21:51 <luke-jr> assuming a US server
21:51 <IAB> right
21:51 <IAB> ok
22:06 <luke-jr> IAB: so do you want your server to participate in ratings? :þ
22:06 <luke-jr> we keep getting sidetracked
22:06 <luke-jr> lol
22:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: btw, that space-collapse is disabled by default, right?
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22:20 <luke-jr> wb armabot!
22:22 -!- freako [n=freako@cp601025-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7460 / (22 files in 8 dirs):
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: Restructured input system so that it no longer references input events via
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: (fake) keysyms, but over strings (in the config) resp. pointers to uInput
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: objects (at runtime). Joystick support is currently broken (sorry, it shall
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: return in improved form soon).
22:36 <z-man> gaa! 22 files?
22:36 <luke-jr> ROFL
22:36  * z-man hopes that is harmless rebeautification
22:36 <luke-jr> give up on Svk yet? lol
22:37 <z-man> nah, this time it's not SVK's fault, I'm betting on astyle.
22:38 <luke-jr> heh
22:39 <z-man> Well, astyle touched the files, but did not modify them.
22:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, is armabot able to report to a channel lastet headlines from an rss feed?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> ask me an easier question…
22:40 <wrtlprnft> check supybot's documentation
22:40 <z-man> What is 2+2?
22:40 <epsy> haha
22:40 <wrtlprnft> 3.9999999
22:40 <GodTodd> #help rss
22:40 <armabot> GodTodd: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
22:40 -!- freako [n=freako@cp601025-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
22:41 <wrtlprnft> the annoying thing about z-man's svk commits is that it does something with /
22:41 <epsy> #module rss
22:41 <wrtlprnft> #list rss
22:41 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i think it's enabled
22:41 <epsy> #list rss
22:41 <armabot> epsy: add, announce, armawiki, info, reddit, remove, and rss
22:41 <z-man> Is that unusual?
22:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: add, announce, armawiki, info, reddit, remove, and rss
22:41 <epsy> #help announce
22:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ☹
22:41 <armabot> epsy: (announce <text>) -- Sends <text> to all channels the bot is currently on and not lobotomized in.
22:41 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: armagetronad3/branch/config/settings.cfg:FILTER_NAME_MIDDLE 1        # Filter excess whitespace and other junk from the middle of player names.
22:42 <epsy> mh
22:42 <epsy> #help rss add
22:42 <wrtlprnft> z-man: doesn't happen with normal commits
22:42 <armabot> epsy: (rss add <name> <url>) -- Adds a command to this plugin that will look up the RSS feed at the given URL.
22:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: bad!
22:42 <wrtlprnft> and it makes cia messages in this # a tad less useful
22:42 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: don't stare at me
22:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, cia messages just comes from the #cia channel ?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> #commits
22:43 <wrtlprnft> it just relays them
22:43 <wrtlprnft> err, she
22:43 <epsy> ah
22:44 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-213-185.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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22:47 <epsy> she'ill report everything that has the string 'armagetron' in it
22:47 <epsy> right?
22:48 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ svn blame armagetronad3/branch/config/settings.cfg | grep NAME_MIDDLE                                                               ~ 4958      z-man FILTER_NAME_MIDDLE 1        # Filter excess whitespace and other junk from the middle of player names.
22:48 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ svn blame armagetronad3/branch/config/settings.cfg | grep NAME_MIDDLE                                                               ~ 4958      z-man FILTER_NAME_MIDDLE 1        # Filter excess whitespace and other junk from the middle of player names.
22:48 <wrtlprnft> sorry z-man 
22:48 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:48 <epsy> ok
22:55 <luke-jr> z-man: :O
22:56 <wrtlprnft> not that i think it's a bad thing
22:57 <luke-jr> it's a needless compatibility break
22:57 <luke-jr> or apparently needless
22:58  * z-man missed the point, what is the problem?
22:58 <luke-jr> z-man: what was the original reason for that?
22:58 <wrtlprnft> that someone named "a  b" has a different username on servers of different versions by default
22:59 <luke-jr> the problem is that "*     *" will lose his ladder status, and will create duplicates in the rating system
22:59 <z-man> the name display over the cycles.
22:59 <luke-jr> z-man: the name over cycles is filtered? why?
22:59 <z-man> a player name of "a                     b" can be quite annoying.
22:59 <luke-jr> I thought names had a max length
22:59 <wrtlprnft> well, "a           b"
22:59 <z-man> Yeah, but if you fill that with as many spaces as you can...
22:59 <wrtlprnft> same problem
23:00 <luke-jr> can we have it not affect the internal username?
23:00 <z-man> Or even ".       here"
23:00 <z-man> luke-jr: sure.
23:00  * wrtlprnft doesn't know anyone with two spaces in their name
23:01 <z-man> Oh, another reason were annoying kicks
23:01 <luke-jr> neither do I, tbh
23:01 <z-man> Of course, people still can call themselves "aaaaabbbbbbb", which is just as annoying to type for the kick.
23:02 <z-man> So yeah, go ahead and make it only affect the displayed name.
23:02 <wrtlprnft> it might be hard(er) to distinguish someone called "a    b" from someone called "a     b"
23:02 <wrtlprnft> with the new settings they'd be called "a b" and "a b2"
23:02 <luke-jr> z-man: any suggestions on how to do it nicely? ☺
23:03 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: eck, that means we could have "a b2" be "a__b" internally and "a b22" would become "a_b2" :|
23:03  * wrtlprnft votes for leaving it as it is
23:04  * luke-jr votes for removing FILTER_NAME_MIDDLE :x
23:04 <wrtlprnft> you should probably s/_+/_/g
23:04 <z-man> We can change the default to 0.
23:04 <z-man> Or make it onlly active on the client.
23:05 <luke-jr> da|o|h_l__sacy! >3d>__k |spz|sp__dy w__" |ske|__azureal e_ch_e__lucky ~tc|__k dwc|__k auc|__k .d__c~e_cape |x|_j__87 .dwc~s_k_n__soy g__k lightning__2_2 :g__k
23:05 <z-man> umm
23:05 <luke-jr> those are all names I have with *__*
23:05 <luke-jr> z-man: can it be moved to client-side operation?
23:06 <z-man> it already is client side, too, I think.
23:06 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: it looks like it is a non-issue… apparently noone has two consecutive spaces in their name right now
23:06 <z-man> Yep, it is called directly after the name is read from the server.
23:07 <luke-jr> obviously some must, or z-man wouldn't have put it in? :þ
23:07 <luke-jr> and it would only ever be a non-issue if was the oldest version anyone will use from now on
23:07 <z-man> Dunno, maybe it was anticipative.
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23:07 <luke-jr> I'd like to keep some support/compat with 0.2.7 at least
23:08 <wrtlprnft> z-man: i've seen people exploiting it
23:08 <wrtlprnft> but that was a temporary thing
23:09 <wrtlprnft> a lot of fortress servers already have it enabled
23:09 <freak02> #message epsy Liar!!!
23:09 <luke-jr> O.o
23:09 <epsy> ?
23:09 <freak02> oh youre here :(
23:09 <epsy> is that bad ?
23:09 <freak02> hey why didnt the message worked :/
23:09 <epsy> try #m instead
23:10 <freak02> then the wiki istn correct :/
23:10 <luke-jr> lol
23:10 <freak02> but to the point
23:10 <epsy> who ever said the wiki was correct
23:10 <freak02> liar!!!
23:10 <epsy> how did i lie ?
23:11 <freak02> someone has found some lose logs or you told :/
23:11 <epsy> ???
23:11 <luke-jr> z-man: would it be safe to have a server ignore the setting?
23:11 <luke-jr> freak02: what did he tell?
23:12 <freak02> why epsy kick you yesterday ;)
23:12 <freak02> kicked*
23:12 <z-man> Yes, apart from the fact that it gets harder for a client user to infer another player's username for kicking
23:12 <epsy> freak02, what are you meaning?
23:12 <freak02> priva?
23:12 <epsy> ok, same channel
23:12 <freak02> wich it was :(
23:12 <epsy> damn u :D
23:12 <epsy> #arma.xclan
23:13 <freak02> oops
23:13 <Bougo> cyas
23:13 <freak02> dont see you there :/
23:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: didn't know someone added PLAYER_MESSAGE
23:13 <wrtlprnft> i thought that was one of the ct hacks
23:13 <epsy> freak02, /join #arma.xclan
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23:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: not sure where it originated
23:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I rewrote it to be sanitary
23:14 <freak02> sorry luke jr ;)
23:15 <luke-jr> :o
23:15 <freak02> :O
23:15 <freak02> we dont want you anymore, we have another pizzaguy :D
23:15  * luke-jr murders freak02
23:15 <luke-jr> NOW I WANT PIZZA
23:15 <freak02> haha
23:15 <epsy> haha
23:15 <freak02> gimme a minute
23:15 <luke-jr> -.-
23:15  * luke-jr goes to warm up the oven
23:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: brb
23:16 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-214-219-145.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
23:17 <GodTodd> luke-jr is cooking? isn't that woman's work?
23:17 <GodTodd> :D
23:17 <freak02> #warmupover Lukejr
23:17 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:17 <wrtlprnft> i don't want to be anywhere near it when it explodes
23:18 <armabot> ghableska: Error: timed out
23:18 -!- cusco [n=tretas@client-82-12-227-24.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Connection timed out]
23:18 <wrtlprnft> sorry, my internet connection is sort of busy
23:18 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:18 <wrtlprnft> #*&%$§! bittorrent
23:19 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: Unknown host.
23:19 <GodTodd> damn...doesn't like me any better than ghableska :(
23:19 <wrtlprnft> | dl speed: 3.1 KB/s                                                                                                                                 |
23:19 <luke-jr> lol
23:19 <wrtlprnft> | ul speed: 54.3 KB/s
23:19 <wrtlprnft> stupid bittorrent
23:19 <luke-jr> #weather 68127
23:20 <armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in Omaha Millard, Nebraska is 37.4°F (3:50 PM CST on January 04, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
23:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: try my torrent
23:20 <luke-jr> HAHAHA
23:20 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:20 <GodTodd> apparently only backwater hick towns work right now
23:20 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: timed out
23:21 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i did, but it threw errors
23:21 <wrtlprnft> stupid bittorrent-curses
23:21 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ⁈?
23:21 <luke-jr> you didn't tell me!
23:21 <luke-jr> what errors?
23:21 <freak02> hey luke your pizza's ready
23:21 <wrtlprnft> dunno, bittorrent-curses is weird anyways
23:22 <wrtlprnft> not sure if it was your fault
23:22 <wrtlprnft> i'll try again
23:22 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: Connection timed out.
23:22 <luke-jr> anyone want a free SSH account on lightfoot-nj before I shut it down? :þ
23:22 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7461 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/NEWS: adding PLAYER_MESSAGE (btw, I'm not the only one with commit access to NEWS IIRC)
23:22 <GodTodd> [16:25] <ToddBot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 58.3°F (4:24 PM CST on January 04, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling).
23:22 <GodTodd> there :D
23:23 <wrtlprnft> sharing:  14.397  (94.9 MB up / 6.6 MB down)
23:23 <luke-jr> lol wrtlprnft, good point XD
23:23  * wrtlprnft feels exploited
23:23 <deja_vu> lol
23:23 <wrtlprnft> #seen deja_vu_
23:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: deja_vu_ was last seen in #armagetron 43 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 52 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <deja_vu_> spidey:
23:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you downloaded one chunk so you can upload it for them :þ
23:24 <luke-jr> #rating deja_vu
23:24 <GodTodd> #seen n54
23:24 <armabot> GodTodd: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 29 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
23:24 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
23:24 <luke-jr> -.-
23:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: learn to throttle BT? :þ
23:24 <luke-jr> #rating deja_vu
23:25 <deja_vu> um
23:25 <deja_vu> #rating QuantumSquirrel
23:25 <armabot> luke-jr: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
23:25 <deja_vu> but i haven't played on any other servers :P
23:25 <wrtlprnft> well, the other problem is that my connection doesn't appear to have a stable uprate right now
23:25 <armabot> deja_vu: timed out
23:25 <GodTodd> #rating GodTodd
23:25 <armabot> GodTodd: I don't know anything about 'godtodd'!
23:25 <wrtlprnft> #ping
23:25 <luke-jr> #rating QuantumSquirrel
23:25 <armabot> pong
23:26 <GodTodd> haha
23:26 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'quantumsquirrel'!
23:26 <luke-jr> #rating z-man
23:26 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'z-man'!
23:26 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13
23:26 -!- flea [n=blia@] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"]
23:26 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13 is 544th with a rating of 1487-1538 (from 1489-1535)
23:26 <GodTodd> #rating luke-jr
23:26 <armabot> GodTodd: luke-jr is 925th with a rating of 1429-1483 (from 1431-1481)
23:26 <wrtlprnft> #rating admin
23:26 <epsy> #rating epsy
23:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: admin is 680th with a rating of 1466-1527 (from 1477-1534)
23:26 <armabot> epsy: epsy is 243rd with a rating of 1543-1586 (from 1545-1584)
23:26 <epsy> :þ
23:26 <GodTodd> man...luke-jr sux
23:26 <luke-jr> #rating wrtlprnft
23:26 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrtlprnft_|mbc|
23:26 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'wrtlprnft'!
23:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft_|mbc| is 144th with a rating of 1578-1688 (from 1579-1687)
23:26 <wrtlprnft> ?!
23:26 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: rename to wrtlprnft some time ;P
23:27 <wrtlprnft> the rating sort of sucks
23:27 <epsy> right, i should have merged from the other nick :(
23:27 <wrtlprnft> i rarely ever play
23:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: apparently you play well when you do?
23:27 <wrtlprnft> not really
23:27 <wrtlprnft> i think it should favor more recent dumps
23:27 <luke-jr> #aka luke-jr
23:27 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿8 luke-jr
23:28 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with ¿ --nolimit
23:28 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1080 messages.
23:28 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: RD increases over time
23:28 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with aka --nolimit
23:28 <armabot> luke-jr: [23:30:35] <luke-jr> #aka luke-jr
23:28 <luke-jr> odd
23:28 <wrtlprnft> note that the buffer is limited
23:28 <wrtlprnft> and that it spawns all channels armabot is in
23:28 <wrtlprnft> including #commits
23:29 <luke-jr> #aka ¿3427
23:29 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3427
23:29 <luke-jr> #aka ¿3832
23:29 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3832 |x|epsy2 |x|baguette
23:29 <luke-jr> #rating ¿3832
23:29 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3832 is 159th with a rating of 1573-1635 (from 1575-1633)
23:30 <luke-jr> #rating ¿3427
23:30 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3427 is 233rd with a rating of 1545-1599 (from 1547-1597)
23:30 <luke-jr> epsy: 144th is your best one :þ
23:30 <epsy> yea :/
23:30 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: btw, I was at about rank 810 a night or two ago
23:30 <luke-jr> last time I played
23:30 <luke-jr> fell to 925 from time
23:31 <wrtlprnft> hmm
23:31 <wrtlprnft> maybe it just needs time to settle
23:31 <luke-jr> #rating wrtlprnft_|mbc|
23:31 <armabot> luke-jr: wrtlprnft_|mbc| is 144th with a rating of 1578-1688 (from 1579-1687)
23:31 <luke-jr> I don't think you've played since the last RP ended
23:31 <luke-jr> yet you went from 1579-1687 to 1578-1688
23:31 <luke-jr> due to the RD
23:32 <luke-jr> and your volatility
23:32  * wrtlprnft needs to get a real bittorrent client
23:32 <wrtlprnft> this python stuff sucks
23:32 <luke-jr> your volatility is currently 0.0600070304459837
23:32 <wrtlprnft> throwing exceptions all the time
23:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: KTorrent works
23:33 <wrtlprnft> thanks, i'll try that
23:33 <luke-jr> the new betas are Qt4
23:33 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's more like aMule
23:33 <wrtlprnft> which rocks
23:33 -!- cusco [i=cusco@client-82-20-33-124.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #armagetron
23:33 <luke-jr> #rating cusco
23:33 <armabot> luke-jr: cusco is 1714th with a rating of 1315-1431 (from 1316-1430)
23:34 <luke-jr> :O
23:34 <luke-jr> wow, cusco REALLY sucks
23:34 <cusco> my rating sucks!
23:34 <cusco> yea, long timo no play for real
23:34  * cusco 'sgot a carppy internet connection
23:35 <luke-jr> ooh good idea
23:35  * luke-jr blames his ISP for his crappy rating too!
23:37 <cusco> hehehe
23:37 <cusco> :D
23:37 <cusco> #rating 1st
23:37 <armabot> cusco: I don't know anything about '1st'!
23:37 <cusco> can you see who's in first?
23:37 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrtltest1
23:37 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrtltest2
23:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtltest1 is 3525th with a rating of 927-1238 (from 1150-1850)
23:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtltest2 is 6th with a rating of 1762-2073 (from 1150-1850)
23:38 <wrtlprnft> ok, sorry for cheating
23:38 <cusco> lol why test?
23:38 <wrtlprnft> echo 'DEATH_FRAG wrtltest1 wrtltest2' >> cafe/var/ladderlog.txt
23:38 <wrtlprnft> done that a couple of times
23:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: delete them from your db if you like
23:38 <epsy> lol
23:38 <cusco> ah.....!
23:38 <epsy> 6th :D
23:38 <cusco> cheater
23:40 <wrtlprnft> but that is a weakness of the system
23:41 <wrtlprnft> i could have just entered an empty server and generated “real” kills
23:41 <wrtlprnft> just 9 times is enough for position 6…
23:43 <wrtlprnft> what the hell? bittorrent really sucks. if i limit my upload rate to something really low my downrate doubles…
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23:47  * GodTodd uses KTorrent
23:47 <wrtlprnft> i'll try that for my next torrent
23:48 <wrtlprnft> although i still have to use a console app for watching certain torrents running on my server
23:48 <wrtlprnft> it rocks to have some knoppix iso rushing to your harddrive at 2MB/s up and 2MB/s down
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Log from 2008-01-05:
--- Day changed Sat Jan 05 2008
00:00 <epsy> let's flame freak02
00:01 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I've found it best to limit your upload to a little under your cap
00:02 <luke-jr> cusco: http://ratings.armagetronad.net
00:04 <luke-jr> #aka wrtltest1
00:04 <luke-jr> #aka wrtltest2
00:04 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿4088 wrtltest1
00:04 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿4089 wrtltest2
00:04 <luke-jr> #rating wrtltest1
00:04 <armabot> luke-jr: wrtltest1 is 2643rd with a rating of 1150-1850
00:04 <luke-jr> :o
00:04 <luke-jr> oh
00:04 <luke-jr> #rating wrtltest2
00:05 <armabot> luke-jr: wrtltest2 is 2643rd with a rating of 1150-1850
00:05 <luke-jr> ok, that's acceptable :þ
00:08 <IAB> ok, so - how do I set up my server to use ratings?
00:09 <IAB> is there a script somewhere I need to run?
00:10 -!- freak02 [n=freak02@cp601025-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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00:11  * IAB flicks luke-jr
00:11 <IAB> :-)
00:12 -!- Program is now known as freak02
00:12 <luke-jr> IAB: http://ratings.armagetronad.net/download/
00:12 <IAB> just grab the latest "sendstats?"
00:13 <luke-jr> for Linux, yes
00:13 <luke-jr> and contact me privately to setup an account for your server
00:13 <IAB> I'm on linux - so thanks
00:13 <IAB> is there documentation on the script in the bz2?
00:13 <freak02> #join arma.xclan
00:13 <armabot> freak02: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:13 <freak02> oops wrong one
00:14 <luke-jr> IAB: no
00:14 <luke-jr> IAB: it's fairly straightforward ☺
00:14 <luke-jr> #arma.xclan
00:14 <IAB> I've never ran an arma server before, so it's not all that straightforward to me
00:14 <luke-jr> IAB: tail -n0 -F ladderlog.txt | /path/to/sendstats.pl USERNAME PASSWORD
00:14 <IAB> ah
00:14 <freak02> i hate irc-s and i will always hate em,
00:14 <IAB> simple enough :-)
00:15 <freak02> #armaxclan
00:15 <IAB> if I change server settings, is it good to echo "" > ladderlog.txt ?
00:15 <freak02> i shall always hate irc more then i did 10 secs ago
00:15 <luke-jr> IAB: no
00:15 <luke-jr> IAB: it doesn't care about server settings
00:17 <IAB> I should probably google for this - but do you have a good resource for setting up the server as a daemon so that it runs from the machine's init scripts?
00:17 <luke-jr> IAB: that is OS-dependent
00:18 <IAB> I'm on ubuntu which is debian-based
00:18 <luke-jr> IAB: I personally host many servers, so I wrote my own system from scratch
00:18 <luke-jr> so I can't really help much sorry
00:18 <IAB> generally speaking though, if I run armagetronad-dedicated --daemon from a rc, I should be ok?
00:19 <luke-jr> not sure; maybe check out the bundled init scripts
00:20 <IAB> ok, thanks
00:21 <IAB> mind if I msg you now for login credentials?
00:21 <luke-jr> sure
00:22 <epsy> #lastseen gio
00:22 <armabot> epsy: Legionnaire has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 1 day 8 hours 45 minutes ago.
00:31 <luke-jr> #rating legionnaire
00:31 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'legionnaire'!
00:33 <epsy> he has a weird nick
00:33 <K-Yo> why?
00:33 <K-Yo> he's italian
00:33 <K-Yo> Roma, César
00:34 <K-Yo> Legionaires attack Astérix et Obélix
00:34 <epsy> Lêgiônnaïrë or whatever
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00:35 <epsy> #aka |x|l_g__nn__r_
00:35 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about '|x|l_g__nn__r_'!
00:35 <K-Yo> #rating cttK-Yo
00:35 <armabot> K-Yo: cttk-yo is 120th with a rating of 1587-1637 (from 1545-1608)
00:36 <K-Yo> :'(
00:36 <K-Yo> #rating cttxK-Yo
00:36 <luke-jr> what are you whining about?
00:36 <armabot> K-Yo: cttxk-yo is 162nd with a rating of 1572-1649 (from 1574-1647)
00:36 <K-Yo> #rating |<
00:36 <armabot> K-Yo: |< is 120th with a rating of 1587-1637 (from 1545-1608)
00:36 <luke-jr> #rating "|x|Lêgiônnaïrë"
00:36 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about '|x|l_gi_nnaire'!
00:36 <K-Yo> did u cheat for 119 firsts places?
00:36 <epsy> #aka |x| zz 109
00:36 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about '|x|_zz_109'!
00:37 <epsy> #aka |x| zz 1o9
00:37 <armabot> epsy: ¿3137 |x|zz_1o9 |x|_zz_1o9
00:37 <epsy> bff
00:37 <epsy> there
00:37 <epsy> #aka |x|_l3g1onna1r3
00:37 <armabot> epsy: ¿659 |x|_l3g1onna1r3
00:37 <epsy> #rank |x|_l3g1onna1r3
00:38 <K-Yo> :s
00:38 <K-Yo> rating
00:38 <epsy> indeed
00:38 <epsy> :s
00:38 <epsy> #rating |x|_l3g1onna1r3
00:38 <armabot> epsy: |x|_l3g1onna1r3 is 279th with a rating of 1535-1606 (from 1537-1604)
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00:38 <luke-jr> K-Yo: http://ratings.armagetronad.net
00:39 <epsy> you need a search engine :P
00:39 <K-Yo> i can't access
00:39 <K-Yo> my DNS doesn't find it
00:39 <K-Yo> :S
00:39 <luke-jr> fix your DNS
00:39 <epsy> haha
00:39 <K-Yo> i use the same as epsy's
00:39  * epsy can access it
00:39 <K-Yo> hum
00:39 <K-Yo> i check
00:40 <K-Yo> pr les réseaux, vista c trop le bordel
00:40 <luke-jr> wtf
00:40 <K-Yo> what DNS do u have luke?
00:40 <IAB> hmm - these scripts aren't making sense to me
00:41 <luke-jr> K-Yo: my own
00:41 <luke-jr> IAB: ?
00:42 <IAB> the example scripts that come with the dedicated server
00:42 <IAB> trying to figure out where to config them
00:42 <IAB> I see some configuration in rcd_servr
00:42 <IAB> server*
00:44 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
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00:45 <IAB> nvm - it's not making sense because it's meant to have default values filled in w/ sysinstall
00:45 <K-Yo> i can get there through http://anonymouse.org/ (4 exple)
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01:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7462 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: Reimplemented joystick input. Can't test here, no joystick. Let's see what I did wrong this time :)
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01:20 <K-Yo> #monologue epsy
01:20 <armabot> K-Yo: (monologue [<channel>]) -- Returns the number of consecutive lines you've sent in <channel> without being interrupted by someone else (i.e. how long your current 'monologue' is). <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
01:20 <K-Yo> #monologue
01:20 <armabot> K-Yo: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
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01:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7463 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (configure.ac src/ui/uInput.cpp): Forgot to enable joystick events :) Works fine otherwise, enabling joystick handling by default.
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01:32 <madmax> #tea
01:33 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: No online players.
01:33 <K-Yo> too bad
01:35 <luke-jr> why is it #tea?
01:35 <K-Yo> café is a drink, tea is when u dislike café ;)
01:36 <luke-jr> O.o
01:36 <madmax> #help alias
01:36 <armabot> madmax: Error: There is no command "alias".
01:36 <madmax> wait, what was the command?
01:37 <K-Yo> which?
01:38 <K-Yo> #list alias
01:38 <armabot> K-Yo: monologue, roulette, 42, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, cters, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, (3 more messages)
01:38 <K-Yo> taht one?
01:38 <K-Yo> .cookie
01:38 <K-Yo> #cookie
01:38 <armabot> K-Yo: (cookie <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "send $1 a cookie".
01:38 <K-Yo> #cookie madmax
01:38 <armabot> I have sent a cookie to madmax, it should arrive shortly.
01:38 <K-Yo> ;)
01:39 <luke-jr> #cookie K-Yo
01:40 <armabot> I have sent a cookie to K-Yo, it should arrive shortly.
01:40 <madmax> nvm, what I wanted was:
01:40 <madmax> #help alias add
01:40 <armabot> madmax: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and cannot (1 more message)
01:40 <luke-jr> #alias add add echo NO
01:40 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: You can't overwrite commands in this plugin.
01:40 <luke-jr> aww
01:40 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7464 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: Shorter display name of joystick input channels.
01:41 <madmax> so I could search for "alias add tea serverinfo cafe" in wrtl's log site :-P
01:41 <madmax> no results though
01:41 <luke-jr> #help tea
01:41 <armabot> luke-jr: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo cafe".
01:42  * luke-jr ponders making another server named cafe :þ
01:44 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["leaving"]
01:48 <IAB> woohoo!
01:48 <IAB> my server starts and stops from initscripts and includes the ratings script
01:56 <luke-jr> ☺
02:06 <madmax> x_x
02:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7465 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: Added and tested coolie hat support.
02:18 <StickyNoob> !tea
02:18 <StickyNoob> #tea
02:18 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: No online players.
02:18 <K-Yo> never
02:19 <K-Yo> .ls madmax
02:19 <StickyNoob> afraid so
02:19 <K-Yo> #ls madmax
02:19 <armabot> K-Yo: timed out
02:20 <IAB> anyone here into HTF?
02:20 <StickyNoob> not realy
02:20 <StickyNoob> why?
02:20 <IAB> I just started a new HTF server and I'm looking for feedback
02:20 <madmax> #help ls
02:20 <armabot> madmax: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen @*".
02:21 <madmax> #lastseen madmax
02:21 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 2 hours 3 minutes ago.
02:21 <madmax> that doesnt work
02:21 <StickyNoob> i can give it a quick try, ianae
02:21 <StickyNoob> IAB: whats the server?
02:21 <IAB> I'd the only missing feature that I'd _really_ like to see is to have the flag go to a random position when dropped
02:22 <IAB>
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02:38 <StickyNoob> IAB: just got kicked from your server
02:39 <K-Yo> hehe
02:39 <IAB> hmm
02:39 <IAB> weird
02:40 <IAB> it's definitely running
02:40 <StickyNoob> well got a Map load error
02:40 <K-Yo> same here
02:40 <IAB> oh
02:40 <IAB> one sec
02:40 <StickyNoob> yeah you need to make it easier to attack the flag holder
02:40 <K-Yo> #bed K-Yo
02:41 <K-Yo> yeah, once u got it, u can keep it undefinitely
02:41 <StickyNoob> *in
02:42 <IAB> gah
02:42 <IAB> I can't see what the error is
02:43 <K-Yo> expected '<'
02:43 <K-Yo> no, >
02:43 <K-Yo> in </Reso
02:43 <K-Yo> :58:
02:43 <K-Yo> u got what i said?
02:44 <IAB> ya, but line 58 reads: </Resource>
02:44 <IAB> http://www.widgetry.org/armamaps/some_random_guy/htf/twoxdentedsquare-0.0.3.aamap.xml
02:45 <IAB> I just changed one small thing, so it's not 58 anymore
02:45 <IAB> it's 60 now
02:46 <K-Yo> hum
02:46 <K-Yo> i hate that kind of error
02:46 <K-Yo> i still have line 58
02:48 <IAB> works now
02:48 <IAB> you might need to clear your resources cache
02:49 <K-Yo> how?
02:49 <IAB> you on linux or PC?
02:49 <IAB> er
02:49 <IAB> windows*
02:50 <K-Yo> win
02:50 <K-Yo> i just delete ur map in resource?
02:50 <IAB> ya
02:50 <K-Yo> what file?
02:50 <K-Yo> anonymous?
02:50 <IAB> it should be in %USERPROFILE%/.armagetronad/resource
02:51 <IAB> some_random_guy
02:51 <IAB> wait
02:51 <IAB> I know what's doing it
02:51 <IAB> one sec
02:51 <K-Yo> i don't have some_random_guy
02:52 <K-Yo> strange
02:52 <IAB> try to connect now
02:52 <IAB> it should work
02:52 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871370.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
02:53 <IAB> but the spawn problem is still there
02:53 <IAB> I need to either use teams or set up 8 different spawn points
02:55 <StickyNoob> well C++ is now 25 years old one of the most use languages on earth and yet still there is no fucking way of determining the length on an array WTF
02:55 <IAB> StickyNoob: that's because of how C++ defines an array
02:55 <StickyNoob> i know
02:56 <StickyNoob> but still sucks
02:57 <StickyNoob> could add a whole extra 4 bytes at the begining of the memory location to denote the length but NO
02:59 <StickyNoob> screw it
02:59  * StickyNoob switches to using vectors
03:00 <IAB> StickyNoob: the problem with that is that certain architectures might have lengths that exceed 4 bytes
03:00 <StickyNoob> thats about 4 billion elements
03:00 <StickyNoob> fine 8 bytes then
03:01 <IAB> ie - on some microcontroller architectures, you can do bitwise addressing -- ie: unsigned g[32]; //g is 4 bytes long
03:01 <IAB> plus with virtual address spaces, it gets really messy
03:02 <StickyNoob> how is "unsigned g[32]" 4 bytes?
03:02 <IAB> unsigned is a 1 bit type
03:03 <luke-jr> …
03:03 <luke-jr> prove it
03:03 <IAB> check out C18 for the Microchip PIC18 series of microcontrollers
03:03 <IAB> it's C
03:03 <IAB> so not exactly C++
03:03 <luke-jr> where does the C spec define a 1-bit type?
03:03 <IAB> but C++ is supposed to be backwards compatible
03:04 <IAB> I don't believe any spec defined the size of any type
03:04 <IAB> but I could be mistaken
03:04 <IAB> that's architecture specific
03:04 <luke-jr> sizeof(char) == 1
03:05 <StickyNoob> i think thats some of the problem with c++ they maintain this compatability you could add a few small features that would break compatability but make it much nicer (without going overboard and heading to java and c#)
03:06 <IAB> sure, sizeof is a defined operator, but that's because the actual size isn't defined by the spef
03:06 <IAB> spec*
03:06 <luke-jr> the spec defines sizeof(char) == 1
03:07 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: due to memory alignment it does always round variables to a byte dont they?
03:08 <IAB> which spec?
03:08 <luke-jr> presumably C99
03:09 <IAB> if that's the case, I think char might be the only type with size by the spec
03:09 <IAB> and that's only because of ASCII
03:10 <StickyNoob> anyway these arguments aside considering you almost always store the size in a seperate variable you may as well have the array remember its own size
03:10 <IAB> but what we call an "array" is really just a contiguous block of (virtual) memory
03:11 <IAB> in the case of mapped char devices, storing the size would break the index operator
03:11 <StickyNoob> not with a minor mod of the compiler
03:11 <IAB> and also - what would you do in the event of indexing beyond the bounds?
03:12 <IAB> C++ has no standard exception set
03:12 <StickyNoob> i never said it should provide bounds checking, simply a referance to the size
03:13 <IAB> you could define your own array type
03:13 <StickyNoob> i am considering it
03:13 <IAB> make a templated class and override the index operator
03:13 <StickyNoob> would be all of about 10 lines of code
03:14 <IAB> you'd also have to override the * operator so that it points to the contents of the stored data rather than the instance of the class, though
03:14 <IAB> that is - if you want it to be compatible with other arryas
03:14 <IAB> arrays*
03:15 <StickyNoob> looks like CArray is basicly it but is MFC only
03:16 <StickyNoob> im sure boost has some crazy stuff for this too, but im not importing that monstor
03:19 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: actually, in C it is very rare to store the array size
03:19 <StickyNoob> i suppose without OO it becomes less important
03:20 <luke-jr> with OO it becomes less important
03:20 <luke-jr> when it's raw data ©, you might on a rare occasion want to store a null character
03:20 <luke-jr> when it's OO, everything is a pointer/reference usually, so NULL is only end-of-array
03:21 <StickyNoob> but a byte array with 0 in it is equivalent to a NULL...isnt it?
03:22 <IAB> where might I find map-
03:22 <K-Yo> www.google.com
03:22 <K-Yo> u can find everything there ;)
03:22 <K-Yo> or : start->search
03:22 <K-Yo> =D
03:22 <IAB> google it - it's not coming up :-p
03:22 <StickyNoob> #help g
03:23 <armabot> StickyNoob: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo blame google for closing their damn API".
03:23 <StickyNoob> #g map-
03:23 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
03:23 <StickyNoob> heh
03:23 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: a byte array isn't OO
03:23 <K-Yo> what's API for?
03:23 <luke-jr> IAB: it's part of the patch
03:24 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: ok so why then is it rare to store the lenght of an array in c?
03:24 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: because null termination is more convenient
03:24 <luke-jr> in C
03:24  * K-Yo wonders what's API for?
03:25  * K-Yo wonders what's API for
03:25 <K-Yo> sry
03:25  * StickyNoob repeats example of byte array
03:25 <luke-jr> K-Yo: stop asking stupid questions
03:25 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: yes, it is
03:25 <IAB> K-Yo: ask google :-p
03:25 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: hence why \0 won't work in most C apps
03:26  * K-Yo wonders why the sun shines
03:26 <K-Yo> i'm not asking, just wondering
03:26 <IAB> luke-jr: null termination only works for char arrays
03:27 <IAB> char arrays containing ascii char data, that is
03:27 <StickyNoob> hmm its just Ive done a fair amount of embedded C and I have always stored the length of the array, admitidly alot of the time in a #define which i suppose is not quite the same thing as "storing" it
03:27 <K-Yo>     * Actualisation du Potentiel Intellectuel
03:27 <K-Yo>     * Allocation de parent isolé
03:27 <K-Yo>     * Alphabet phonétique international (ou Association phonétique internationale), en linguistique
03:27 <K-Yo>     * Année polaire internationale
03:27 <K-Yo>     * Association psychanalytique internationale
03:27 <K-Yo>     * Automate programmable industriel, en automatisme
03:27 <K-Yo> it means that? oO
03:27 <IAB> K-Yo: we speak english
03:27 <IAB> K-Yo: chances are our acronyms are in english also
03:30 <K-Yo> oh
03:30 <K-Yo> u think so?
03:30 <K-Yo> i'll try en then ;)
03:30 <K-Yo> American Petroleum Institute,
03:30 <K-Yo> that's english =D
03:30 <K-Yo> Alpha Processor Incorporated
03:30 <StickyNoob> ffs
03:30 <K-Yo> # Application programming interface, en informatique, c'est-à-dire une interface de programmation
03:31 <K-Yo> thsi one may be the right one
03:31 <StickyNoob> 2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
03:31 <K-Yo> informatique is computer science
03:37 <K-Yo> #quote random
03:37 <armabot> K-Yo: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
03:37 <K-Yo> #quote random
03:37 <armabot> K-Yo: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
03:38 <K-Yo> #quote random
03:38 <armabot> K-Yo: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
03:38 <K-Yo> #quote random
03:38 <armabot> K-Yo: Quote #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in a wereworm. Not as dangerous as a werewolf, but twice as cunning. - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 07:58 PM, April 25, 2006)
03:38 <IAB> server actually works now
03:38 <StickyNoob> does irssi have a silence feature?
03:38 <K-Yo> ^^
03:39 <IAB> I think /ignore works for any client
03:40 <IAB>    alright - I'm outta here - gotta go pick up the lady friend from the airport
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06:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: btw, I think your "flaw" in the rating system might not be as bad as you think
06:08 <luke-jr> that's probably why "live" is not "official" :þ
06:32 <luke-jr> #rating mmaft
06:32 <armabot> luke-jr: mmaft is 1644th with a rating of 1331-1423 (from 1283-1439)
06:33 <luke-jr> #rating Aurie
06:33 <armabot> luke-jr: aurie is 1272nd with a rating of 1384-1473 (from 1345-1491)
06:34 <luke-jr> #rating SmE
06:34 <armabot> luke-jr: sme is 1344th with a rating of 1371-1953 (from 1150-1850)
06:35 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:35 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 56.1°F (11:33 PM CST on January 04, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
06:35 <GodTodd> brrr :/
06:36 <GodTodd> #rating GodTodd
06:36 <armabot> GodTodd: I don't know anything about 'godtodd'!
06:36 <GodTodd> heh
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08:07 <luke-jr> #last --with "luke-jr is" --from armabot
08:07 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 4940 messages.
08:07 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
08:08 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 695th with a rating of 1468-1512 (from 1431-1481)
08:10 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
08:10 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 701st with a rating of 1465-1514 (from 1468-1512)
08:11 <luke-jr> blarg, fell 6 positions ☹
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11:50 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7466 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added missing files to code::blocks project, activated joystick support.
11:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7467 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: Fixed dedicated server compatibility.
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12:05 <DrJoeTron> ffffffffffff
12:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7468 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ (ArmagetronAd.cbp ArmagetronAd.workspace Dedicated.cbp): Added more missing files.
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14:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7469 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: redone transformation of SDL events.
14:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7470 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: forgot to store last hat direction.
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17:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7471 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Added special joystick control mode for cycles.
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17:48 <MrBougo> luke-jr: here's something for your bible:
17:48 <MrBougo> http://www.lolcatbible.com
17:49 <MrBougo> Genesis 1:28 An Ceiling Cat sed them O hai maek bebehs kthx, An p0wn teh waterz, no waterz An teh firmmint, An evry stufs.
17:49 <MrBougo> there's even an audio version
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18:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7472 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ (ArmagetronAd.cbp ArmagetronAd.workspace Dedicated.cbp):
18:33 <armabot> armagetronad: Debug now actually means debug mode.
18:33 <armabot> armagetronad: Updated project file content.
18:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7473 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (tron/gJoystick.cpp tron/gJoystick.h ui/uInput.cpp): Adaptions to analogue joysticks.
18:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7474 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp:
18:42 <armabot> armagetronad: Joystick bindings no longer get lost when AA is started without the appropriate stick plugged in, they get remembered silently.
18:42 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed hat direction.
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18:51 <DrJoeTron> wow cool
18:52 <DrJoeTron> <armabot> armagetronad: Joystick bindings no longer get lost when AA is started without the appropriate stick plugged in, they get remembered silently
18:52 <DrJoeTron> this is nice
18:53 <luke-jr> people actually used the joystick support?
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19:23 <luke-jr> ouch
19:23 <luke-jr> the NY datacenter I use has been down about 12 hours ☹
19:23 <luke-jr> DDoS over 2.5 GB/s :|
19:24 <MrBougo> :o
19:24 <deja_vu> :s
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19:24 <luke-jr> wb z-man
19:24 <luke-jr> on the bright side, looks like I'm back up!
19:26 <z-man> meh. Kernel upgrade, wireless driver update, all with wonderful gentoo
19:26 <z-man> not to forget the nvidia driver update
19:26 <z-man> I've got my screen resolution back, but the fonts are too large now.
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19:31 <luke-jr> z-man: sounds like your monitor isn't configured properly, or wasn't
19:40 <luke-jr> take out a ruler and find out!
19:41 <luke-jr> if your font is configured as 10pt, a char should measure 10/72th of an inch
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21:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7475 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Whoops, due to a messup, joystick input did not work in network games :)
21:52 <luke-jr> #rating $
21:52 <armabot> luke-jr: $ is 492nd with a rating of 1498-1712 (from 1150-1850)
21:59 <luke-jr> #rating $
21:59 <armabot> luke-jr: $ is 241st with a rating of 1547-1723 (from 1150-1850)
22:07 <madmax> is nexus9 counted?
22:18 <luke-jr> I don't think so
22:18 <luke-jr> feel free to contact the owner and suggest they participate ☺
22:31 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7476 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp: Added support for joyballs. I wonder whether anyone actually has such a thing. Not me, so this is untested.
22:33 <epsy> #lastseen rain
22:33 <armabot> epsy: ~/St.Rain has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 46 minutes ago.
22:33 <epsy> mh
22:33 <epsy> #lastseen °°rain
22:33 <armabot> epsy: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'like'
22:34  * epsy prays for luck
22:34 <epsy> aw
22:34 <epsy> #tea
22:34 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): <insert name>, Crucial, CTT_emmy, Dez, Lackadaisical, Luzifer, |x| Sticky, ~|DS-T|~G5, ¦×¦ Hoax, °°AshitakA
23:21 <epsy> little wrtlprnft, you there ?
23:25 <vinavil> he is playng hide-and-seek
23:25 <epsy> lol
23:26 <epsy> #lastseen wrtl
23:26 <armabot> epsy: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 1 hour 45 minutes ago.
23:26 <epsy> let's see if his own tools with seek him
23:26 <epsy> :O
23:26 <epsy> *will
23:27 <vinavil> why don't you ask your mates epsy
23:27 <vinavil> x server is on wrtl
23:27 <epsy> ?
23:27 <vinavil> and it was old fts before
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23:27 <epsy> so we have !delire on x fort ? :P
23:27 <vinavil> ...
23:28 <epsy> vinavil, it's not my fault lol
23:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft, we need you
23:46 <vinavil> who can get wrtlprnft here within 2 minutes earns 1 euro
23:46 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:46 <vinavil> LOL!
23:46 <epsy> LOL
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00:02 <wrtlprnft> what the hell is a joyball?
00:02 <epsy> idk
00:02 <epsy> was wondering myself
00:02 <wrtlprnft> wikipedia doesn't know about it
00:02 <wrtlprnft> so it can't exist
00:03 <epsy> hrhr
00:03 <wrtlprnft> “„if it's not in the archives, it doesn't exist”
00:03  * wrtlprnft should stop quoting star wars
00:11 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft should stop quoting the bad part of star wars mostly!
00:11 <epsy> heh
00:12 <wrtlprnft> missa thinkin…
00:12 <wrtlprnft> or is it messa thinking?
00:13 <philippeqc> its exactly the kind of thing one doesnt want associated with his nick for as long as Internet exist!
00:13 <wrtlprnft> meh.
00:14 <philippeqc> Rule 17 of Internet: Don't quote Jar-Jar. Ever!
00:15 <philippeqc> it actually pushed down "Don't write using only caps!". Thats how important it is!
00:15  * epsy writes only lowercase
00:15 <madmax> maybe it's a ... trackball?
00:15 <wrtlprnft> HAHA LOLZ WTF OMG!!!
00:16 <philippeqc> you managed to spell it wrong!
00:17 <philippeqc> in CAPS-TALK, 3 exclamations points are always folled by at least a '1'.
00:17 <epsy> !!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111ONE11111
00:17 <wrtlprnft> i deliberately omitted that
00:17 <wrtlprnft> to annoy you
00:17 <philippeqc> When do you think OpenOffice and MS-Word will have a CAPS-TALK spell-checker?
00:17 <philippeqc> ;)
00:18 <epsy> when someone does it?
00:18 <wrtlprnft> those 1337 p33p5 don't use word
00:20 <philippeqc> Well, they do have a copied version on their hard-drive, so someone of them is bound to use it at some time.
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00:40 <philippeqc> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_is_the_government
00:41 <philippeqc> Should you be doing more to help your Paranoid Schizophrenic friends?
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00:58 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:58 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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01:51 <vinavil> #lastseen epsy
01:51 <armabot> vinavil: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Fortress Test Server 12 minutes ago.
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03:10 <luke-jr> #rating "°°rain"
03:11 <armabot> luke-jr: oorain is 317th with a rating of 1530-1569 (from 1529-1568)
03:13 <StickyNoob> #rating sticky
03:13 <armabot> StickyNoob: I don't know anything about 'sticky'!
03:13 <StickyNoob> heh
03:13 <StickyNoob> #rating "|x| sticky"
03:13 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x|_sticky is 261st with a rating of 1541-1588 (from 1519-1570)
03:14 <StickyNoob> woo, /me kicks rains ass
03:15 <StickyNoob> #rating "|x| fofo"
03:15 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x|_fofo is 88th with a rating of 1609-1650 (from 1599-1645)
03:15 <StickyNoob> humph
03:16 <StickyNoob> #rating madmax
03:16 <armabot> StickyNoob: madmax is 120th with a rating of 1592-1645 (from 1597-1653)
03:16 <StickyNoob> where is it getting these from?
03:16 <StickyNoob> is there a web interface?
03:19 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net
03:21 <StickyNoob> hmm mostly dominated buy rubber players
03:21 <StickyNoob> suppose there is sasha there
03:22 <luke-jr> well, since most servers are rubber, that makes sense
03:22 <luke-jr> people are "forced" to play rubber even when they're better without it
03:22 <StickyNoob> isnt the score normalised to the amount of time you have played for?
03:23 <luke-jr> amount of time played does not affect ratings directly
03:23 <StickyNoob> hmm
03:23 <luke-jr> though the RD defaults to a large value
03:23 <StickyNoob> i would have thought total points/time played would be a good heuristic
03:23 <luke-jr> #rating wrtltest1
03:24 <armabot> luke-jr: wrtltest1 is 2754th with a rating of 1150-1850
03:24 <luke-jr> 1150-1850 is the default range
03:24 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
03:24 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 896th with a rating of 1438-1484 (from 1468-1512)
03:24 <luke-jr> ☹
03:24 <StickyNoob> whats the range?
03:25 <luke-jr> it is 95% likely a person's skill level falls within the range
03:25 <StickyNoob> any chance of getting the raw data that generates these stats?
03:25 <luke-jr> what raw data?
03:25 <StickyNoob> generated on the fly?
03:25 <luke-jr> yes
03:25 <StickyNoob> hmm dam
03:26 <luke-jr> the database stores 8 values per player+system
03:26 <luke-jr> internal official: rating, deviation, volatility
03:26 <luke-jr> internal live: rating, deviation, volatility, v, delta
03:27 <StickyNoob> i still recon i can train a neural network to identify good play and rate people
03:27 <luke-jr> the latter two are the variables used by the endless loop of a player's rating
03:28 <luke-jr> tbh, I really don't understand how it works myself ☺
03:28 <luke-jr> http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/glicko/glicko2.doc/ if you want to try
03:29 <luke-jr> that is the algorithm I've implemented
03:29 <StickyNoob> hmm the maths dosent look too bad, but TRUELY understanding these things is always difficult
03:31 <luke-jr> I don't even try to truly understand it
03:31 <luke-jr> it was designed by a math professor for crying out loud! :þ
03:31 <StickyNoob> heh
03:31 <luke-jr> I'm just happy I understand what those symbols mean
03:32 <luke-jr> so I can turn them into code
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03:32 <luke-jr> and then after 3 or 4 refactors, have something where it computes the values on the fly
03:32 <StickyNoob> one of the best things i deal with is a statistical filter called the kalman filter, you can piss off anyone who works with them by asking them how they work, half the time the reply is magic
03:33 <luke-jr> O.o
03:33 <luke-jr> you a maths guy?
03:33 <StickyNoob> not realy, an enginner
03:33 <luke-jr> ok
03:34 <luke-jr> you can get the Glicko2 values with the raw_rating cmd tho
03:34 <luke-jr> via telnet or such
03:35 <luke-jr> heh
03:35 <StickyNoob> telnet?
03:35 <luke-jr> to ratings.armagetronad.net port 9999
03:35 <luke-jr> it would be cool to hack Arma so instead of showing a cycle's name, it also shows a % chance of winning against them
03:36 <luke-jr> so I can get away from the pros and pwn people I have 65%+ chance at
03:36 <StickyNoob> hhmmm i get "Connected to hachi.dashjr.org" then nothing
03:37 <luke-jr> raw_rating |x|_sticky
03:37 <StickyNoob> ahh
03:37 <StickyNoob> thats just durka durka land and CTWF
03:38 <luke-jr> read_rating and rank_rating does more processing
03:38 <luke-jr> I don't think DDL is participating
03:39 <luke-jr> two of the Swamplands, Eclipsed (non-trainer), Xzl/new, and a few others
03:56 <luke-jr> #rating goodkoen
03:56 <armabot> luke-jr: goodkoen is 2627th with a rating of 1181-1380 (from 1182-1379)
03:56 <luke-jr> #rating epsy
03:56 <armabot> luke-jr: epsy is 279th with a rating of 1538-1579 (from 1543-1586)
03:56 <luke-jr> #rating free-zombie
03:56 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'free-zombie'!
03:56 <luke-jr> :O
03:56 <luke-jr> #rating zion
03:56 <armabot> luke-jr: zion is 3634th with a rating of 968-1270
03:57 <luke-jr> #rating lackadastical
03:57 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'lackadastical'!
03:57 <luke-jr> #rating lackadaisical
03:57 <armabot> luke-jr: lackadaisical is 146th with a rating of 1582-1630 (from 1581-1629)
03:57 <luke-jr> #rating mazuffer
03:57 <armabot> luke-jr: mazuffer is 496th with a rating of 1499-1651 (from 1500-1650)
03:57 <luke-jr> so Lack's pretty much got Group 2 pwnt
03:57 <luke-jr> #rating Durka
03:57 <armabot> luke-jr: durka is 614th with a rating of 1479-1621 (from 1480-1621)
03:57 <luke-jr> #rating mkzelda
03:58 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'mkzelda'!
03:58 <luke-jr> #rating ender
03:58 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'ender'!
03:58 <luke-jr> stupid clans
03:58 <luke-jr> #rating dragon
03:58 <armabot> luke-jr: dragon is 1363rd with a rating of 1374-1538 (from 1375-1537)
03:58 <luke-jr> #rating Jose
03:58 <armabot> luke-jr: jose is 3563rd with a rating of 997-1508
03:58 <luke-jr> hey, I might actually win Group 4
03:58 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
03:58 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 897th with a rating of 1438-1484 (from 1468-1512)
03:58 <luke-jr> though both of them have a higher potential
04:10 <GodTodd> liar
04:13 <luke-jr> wtf?
04:22 <GodTodd> wtfw?
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08:39 <DrJoeTron> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
08:41 <GodTodd> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
08:43 <DrJoeTron> hay hi
08:45 <GodTodd> yo
08:46 <DrJoeTron> whas happenin
08:48 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: you should start a paint story wiki
08:49 <DrJoeTron> oh yeah
08:49 <DrJoeTron> whys that
08:49 <luke-jr> it'd be cool?
08:50 <DrJoeTron> oh
08:50 <GodTodd> that means it'd be lame :/
08:52 <luke-jr> GodTodd must be a Windows user cuz I like Linux, eh?
08:55 <DrJoeTron> if u type in hacker
08:55 <DrJoeTron> lunex cums up
08:55 <DrJoeTron> my bro told me
08:56  * GodTodd notes he probably used linux before luke-jr even knew what it was...
08:59 <DrJoeTron> i just added a 500gb hard drive to my pc
08:59 <GodTodd> i added a 500gb external to my network
08:59 <DrJoeTron> mst3k takes up a shit load of space :(
08:59 <GodTodd> i bet
09:00 <DrJoeTron> 141GB for the entire series
09:00 <GodTodd> i wanted an external so's i could put all my video and audio on a portable storage device so's when we go on trips I gots all my entertainment thingamajigs and don't have to decide what to take :)
09:01 <DrJoeTron> heh thats why I kinda wanted to get one
09:01 <DrJoeTron> but i dont have the desk space
09:01 <DrJoeTron> i need to reaarange my desktop so i can fit my tablet right
09:01 <DrJoeTron> i
09:01 <GodTodd> i have it under my coffee/computer table right now...i'll probably share it from the upstairs fileserver tho
09:01 <DrJoeTron> 'm right handed with my mouse
09:02 <DrJoeTron> but i write and draw left handed
09:02 <GodTodd> wrong handed*
09:02 <DrJoeTron> dumb handed*
09:02 <GodTodd> i don't generally use a mouse...'less'n i hafta do somthing on one of the desktop peecees
09:03 <GodTodd> smth*
09:04 <GodTodd> man...the simplest shit hangs you up when planning out a novel :/
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09:10 <DrJoeTron> i hate this headset
09:10 <DrJoeTron> my other one just shat out on earlier this morning
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09:15 <GodTodd> i only have a broke ass headset
09:15 <GodTodd> heh
09:16 <GodTodd> stupid fucking photo keychain people
09:16 <GodTodd> who makes it fat32?
09:16 <GodTodd> bah
09:18 <GodTodd> i'ma try and convert it to ext3....it was only $10 anyways if i mess it up somehow ;)
09:24 <DrJoeTron> oh yeah
09:24 <DrJoeTron> i have no idea why they still do fat32
09:25 <GodTodd> well these people are nazi anyway...you can't even put pics on it in windows without using their software
09:26 <GodTodd> so i'm trying to get it seen on linux as a usb storage device
09:26 <GodTodd> :)
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09:33 <luke-jr> #rating ~>oo<~
09:33 <armabot> luke-jr: ~>oo<~ is 1385th with a rating of 1374-1750 (from 1150-1850)
09:47 <luke-jr> #rating epsy
09:47 <armabot> luke-jr: epsy is 282nd with a rating of 1539-1580 (from 1543-1586)
09:48 <luke-jr> #rating Fear
09:48 <armabot> luke-jr: fear is 1594th with a rating of 1348-1611 (from 1150-1850)
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09:48 <philippeqc> good morning!
09:50 <luke-jr> #rating epsy
09:50 <armabot> luke-jr: epsy is 266th with a rating of 1541-1582 (from 1543-1586)
09:50 <luke-jr> morning philippeqc
09:51 <philippeqc> I think I'm on my way to have a fix for zone v2
09:51 <philippeqc> at least i have a class that would allow better network updates!
09:55 <philippeqc> its a polynomial class. Sadly, its only for well, single value polynomial, so no sin or cos.
09:55 <philippeqc> but now that I have isolated the prob, someone might be able to exchange this class for a more general equation one.
09:55 <philippeqc> and how are you?
09:56 <philippeqc> (my mind is fuzzy, spent many later hours on that yesterday)
10:00 <luke-jr> #rating fear
10:00 <armabot> luke-jr: fear is 744th with a rating of 1463-1638 (from 1150-1850)
10:01 <philippeqc> luke-jr: what are the range values?
10:02 <luke-jr> I think the term is 95th percentile?
10:03 <luke-jr> 95% likelihood of the skill being in that range, compared with others
10:03 <luke-jr> #rating philippeqc
10:03 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'philippeqc'!
10:03 <luke-jr> philippeqc: you should play more :D
10:03 <philippeqc> yep, I know
10:04 <philippeqc> The old problem. If I'm awaken enough to play, I'm awaken enough to code. The trunk is majorly broken because of me. Difficult for me to enjoy a nice game then!
10:04 <luke-jr> heh
10:06 <luke-jr> #rating epsy
10:06 <luke-jr> he's pwning me ☹
10:06 <armabot> luke-jr: epsy is 254th with a rating of 1545-1586 (from 1543-1586)
10:06 <luke-jr> he's pwning me ☹
10:06 <luke-jr> #rating epsy
10:06 <armabot> luke-jr: epsy is 257th with a rating of 1545-1585 (from 1543-1586)
10:07 <freako02> #rating freako
10:07 <armabot> freako02: freako is 378th with a rating of 1522-1564 (from 1526-1565)
10:07 <luke-jr> :x
10:07 <freako02> wich servers this was based on?
10:07 <freako02> #rating tarrot
10:07 <luke-jr> freako02: a bunch
10:07 <armabot> freako02: tarrot is 958th with a rating of 1432-1512 (from 1433-1511)
10:07 <freako02> #rating .Fzx
10:07 <armabot> freako02: .fzx is 378th with a rating of 1522-1564 (from 1526-1565)
10:07 <luke-jr> #aka freako
10:07 <freako02> #rating heavoc
10:08 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿2141 gcc krat kratos freako .fzx
10:08 <armabot> freako02: I don't know anything about 'heavoc'!
10:08 <luke-jr> :o
10:08 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: actually, is there a list somewhere?
10:08 <luke-jr> you're sharing ratings with gcc?
10:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: a list?
10:08 <wrtlprnft> of servers
10:08 <freako02> lol
10:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: not really
10:08 <freako02> #rating gcc
10:08 <armabot> freako02: gcc is 378th with a rating of 1522-1564 (from 1526-1565)
10:08 <luke-jr> freako02: want me to break that link for you?
10:08 <freako02> ?
10:09 <luke-jr> so your rating isn't damaged by the bot
10:09 <freako02> no , doesnt matter ;)
10:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: actually, does it blindly believe any rename?
10:09 <freako02> think so
10:09 <freako02> im on 7x morelees
10:10 <freako02> is this on fort or sumo servers 2?
10:10 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you have a better idea?
10:10 <epsy> it does :(
10:10 <luke-jr> freako02: yes
10:10 <freako02> im finally 1 at flower power though :)
10:10 <freako02> only that name is not on your ladder :(
10:10 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: not really
10:11 <wrtlprnft> as you don't have the IPs at your disposal
10:12 <epsy> freako02, Heavoc?
10:12 <luke-jr> Flower is participating last I checked
10:12 <freako02> duh,, of course im heavoc :/
10:12 <freako02> ;)
10:13 <freako02> #aka freako
10:14 <armabot> freako02: ¿2141 gcc krat kratos freako .fzx
10:14 <freako02> #aka .Fzx
10:14 <armabot> freako02: ¿2141 gcc krat kratos freako .fzx
10:14 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/?system=ed <-- top 10 on flower power
10:14 <luke-jr> #aka .fzx
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10:14 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿2141 krat kratos freako .fzx
10:15 <luke-jr> deleted gcc ☺
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10:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: btw, your "flaw" is quite understandable if you think about it-- you gave it two unknowns and said one was better than the other ☺
10:15 <freako02> is it ok if i stick with the older one? were im 1 at? gimme some moment alone with it, dont ruin it for 10 mins with your ladder :(
10:15 <luke-jr> it kinda needs interaction from a known before it can be any use
10:16 <luke-jr> freako02: eh?
10:16 <freako02> nvm
10:16 <freako02> #aka heavoc
10:16 <armabot> freako02: I don't know anything about 'heavoc'!
10:16 <freako02> strange
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10:16 <luke-jr> clan tag?
10:16  * wrtlprnft wants to see a huge graphviz graph showing who dumped whom how many times
10:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: O.o
10:17 <luke-jr> not sure how you could visualize that
10:17 <freako02> heavoc should aka with me :(
10:17 <luke-jr> freako02: enter a server with your name, and rename to heavoc
10:17 <luke-jr> while you're there
10:17 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: emerge graphviz && man neato
10:17 <freako02> oh does it work like that :)
10:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: neato doesn't do many-to-many IIRC
10:17 <luke-jr> or maybe it does
10:17 <luke-jr> feel free to code it ;p
10:17 <wrtlprnft> it will probably look chaotic
10:18 <wrtlprnft> but it can do any number of connections
10:18 <wrtlprnft> maybe just take the top 100
10:18 <freako02> #aka heavoc
10:18 <luke-jr> do note I am not saving the info in that detail
10:18 <armabot> freako02: I don't know anything about 'heavoc'!
10:18 <wrtlprnft> x_X
10:18 <luke-jr> freako02: make sure it's freako->heavoc and nice vice versa
10:18 <freako02> #aka freako
10:18 <freako02> should work now. then
10:19 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I save 8 values per server, and 8 values globally
10:19 <armabot> freako02: ¿2141 krat kratos freako .fzx
10:19 <luke-jr> nice=not
10:19 <luke-jr> freako02: make sure it's in a participating server too
10:19 <freako02> oh ok
10:19 <luke-jr> ;)
10:20 <luke-jr> I can't very well guess at renames occurring in others
10:20 <wrtlprnft> boo.
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10:21 <luke-jr> I should really add UID->FancyName associations sometime
10:21 <luke-jr> pulling from that XML of online players when I see a new one
10:21 <philippeqc> that would be neat!
10:22 <philippeqc> maybe even make a separate string for clan name and user name
10:22 <freako02> #aka freako
10:22 <armabot> freako02: ¿2141 krat kratos freako .fzx
10:22 <luke-jr> or better yet, poll the server in question when there's a new one
10:22 <luke-jr> so I get something current
10:22 <luke-jr> freako02: where are you attempting?
10:22 <wrtlprnft> i've got a hacky PHP arma client :)
10:22 <luke-jr> O.o
10:23 <luke-jr> AJAX Arma? XD
10:23 <wrtlprnft> it can read configutations, scores, all console messages and even chat :D
10:23 <wrtlprnft> no physics anywhere, though
10:23 <wrtlprnft> all i need to do someday is clean it up
10:23 <luke-jr> reverse engineered, I presume?
10:23 <wrtlprnft> from the source cod
10:23 <wrtlprnft> e
10:24 <luke-jr> o
10:24 <luke-jr> didn't know it was that readable
10:24 <luke-jr> lol
10:24 <wrtlprnft> actually it's fine once you figure out where to start
10:24 <luke-jr> heh
10:25 <freako02> wich servers is it participating? then i can up my rank a little, it sux now :(
10:25 <luke-jr> freako02: the only one with people playing is Xzl/new I think
10:25 <luke-jr> tho some wa!ze just entered another
10:25 <freako02> lol i tried it in Xzl old :(
10:26 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that i had an attempt at refactoring it and now it stopped working properly
10:26 <wrtlprnft> and i have no idea why
10:26 <luke-jr> tbb
10:26 <luke-jr> freako02: bug SD to get the script running on old :þ
10:28 <luke-jr> freako02: …
10:28 <luke-jr> freako02: you'd have just messed up 'freako' if I didn't exclude 'player_1' from renames
10:29 <freako02> lol cafe is in this rating 2?
10:29 <freako02> didnt know :(
10:30 <luke-jr> ah, is that which one it is? :þ
10:31 <freako02> yep ;)
10:35 <luke-jr> going to rename to heavoc?
10:35 <freako02> playing there
10:35 <luke-jr> …
10:36 <luke-jr> that's not what I asked :þ
10:36 <freako02> cokok
10:36 <freako02> i rename :(
10:36 <freako02> master*
10:36 <luke-jr> :þ
10:36 <luke-jr> #aka freako
10:36 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿2141 krat kratos freako .fzx heavoc
10:36 <freako02> hehe
10:37 <freako02> #ake heavoc
10:37 <luke-jr> #aka heavoc
10:37 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿2141 krat kratos .fzx heavoc freako
10:37 <luke-jr> interesting, it seems ordered by the most recent used last
10:38 <luke-jr> coincidence, really
10:38 <luke-jr> I'm not storing use times :þ
10:38 <freako02> haha, but still you are right with the ordering
10:39 <freako02> #lastseen legio
10:39 <armabot> freako02: timed out
10:39 <luke-jr> if I move the db to MySQL at some point, that might cease to be true
10:39 <freako02> how its storen now then?
10:40 <luke-jr> right now, I'm using Sqlite
10:40 <luke-jr> it's a 4.1 MB database
10:43 <freako02> but why would MySQL do it wrong? If it goes wrong there can be assigned numbers to every rename, keeping it in order
10:44 <luke-jr> who said it was wrong?
10:44 <luke-jr> there is no reason it should be in any order
10:44 <luke-jr> MySQL could store it differently for efficiency reasons, and it wouldn't be violating any rule
10:45 <luke-jr> for example, it might store it alphabetically to quicken locating names
10:45 <freako02> why are we doing this? does the order matter? we both think not?
10:46 <freako02> how many names it stores actually?
10:46 <luke-jr> ?
10:46 <luke-jr> 5284 names
10:46 <freako02> how much names it stores and can show with aka?
10:47 <luke-jr> 4103 UIDs
10:47 <luke-jr> any number of names can be associated with a uid
10:48 <wrtlprnft> at most 2^120 names per userid actually
10:48 <luke-jr> ?
10:49 <freako02> wrtl that would be xtreme :(
10:49 <luke-jr> SELECT name FROM names WHERE uid = ?
10:49 <luke-jr> that's the query aka uses
10:49 <wrtlprnft> well, there's ac tually less than 2^120 possible names in arma
10:49 <wrtlprnft> far less, come to think about it
10:49 <luke-jr> heh
10:49 <luke-jr> not once you add that utf8 code
10:49 <luke-jr> and filtered names are permitted utf8 chars
10:50 <luke-jr> I think
10:50 <wrtlprnft> well, we don't have utf8 support yet
10:50 <luke-jr> when will it be merged?
10:50 <luke-jr> I forget what the blockers were?
10:51 <luke-jr> just backward compatibility, maybe
10:53  * luke-jr ponders purging the unnamable uids
10:53 <freako02> #lasteen legio
10:53 <luke-jr> #aka ¿2511
10:53 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿2511
10:53 <luke-jr> like that one
10:55 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: dunno actually
10:56 <luke-jr> 173 of those right now
10:56 <wrtlprnft> one problem iirc is that the connection type that's used for the server browser doesn't carry the client's version
10:57 <wrtlprnft> so the server can't know whether to send utf-8 names or not
10:57 <wrtlprnft> actually the request to get a server's name doesn't carry any info at all
10:57 <wrtlprnft> it's 6 bytes long :P
10:58 <wrtlprnft> of which 2 bytes indicate the request's length, 2 indicate that you want to get the server info, and 2 bytes are unused
10:59 <wrtlprnft> on the other hand, two extra bytes shouldn't harm old servers
11:00 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: so XMPP at the same time would work
11:00 <wrtlprnft> /* no comment */
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11:01 <luke-jr> since ideally it would involve changing the server browser to use the XMPP standards for such things
11:01 <luke-jr> then the old protocol could be kept latin1
11:01 <epsy> wtf...
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11:02 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's just because the current trunk is unusable enough already
11:02 <luke-jr> i c
11:02 <luke-jr> is it a branch from trunk, then?
11:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah
11:04 <luke-jr> how does the branch handle server lists right now?
11:04 <luke-jr> does it assume UTF-8, or Latin-1?
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11:19 <wrtlprnft> latin-1, of course
11:23 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: what is in the 6 bytes to get a server name?
11:23 <philippeqc> maybe there is some place for a client version, or a size field that could be used to grow the size of the request
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11:47 <epsy> hmm
11:48 <epsy> my browser seems to interpret &#x3C; as <
11:48 <epsy> i mean, as if i was opening a tag
12:04 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: actually there is. it's just a normal nMessage
12:05 <wrtlprnft> you could increase the size and append a short indicating the version number
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13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7477 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (16 files in 5 dirs): tPolynomial succesfully used to update a zone rotation
13:02 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft, luke-jr or anybody else: could you update your trunk and compile it?
13:21 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: in progress…
13:21 <philippeqc> good
13:21 <philippeqc> hopefully, the server ip is the proper one now
13:22 <philippeqc> i get in my bookmarks here! Firewalled and all
13:22 <wrtlprnft> you mean that new build can connect to a 0.2.8 server?
13:22 <wrtlprnft> with zones
13:22 <philippeqc> nope
13:22 <philippeqc> didnt say that
13:23 <philippeqc> i used a trunk client and tried to bookmark my own server
13:23 <philippeqc> i even reached it and could play on it, which made me worried!
13:24 <wrtlprnft> ok, it built!
13:24 <philippeqc> good
13:24 <philippeqc> named "zonev2"
13:25 <wrtlprnft> #sd -v zonev2
13:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zonev2” at the moment, sorry.
13:25 <philippeqc> #sd -v zoneV2 teste
13:25 <armabot> philippeqc: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zonev2 teste” at the moment, sorry.
13:25 <philippeqc> #sd -v zoneV2 test
13:25 <armabot> philippeqc: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zonev2 test” at the moment, sorry.
13:26 <epsy> #sd -v test
13:26 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Test Server ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080101 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: ““, Players (3/16): b0mBaA, Tr³zz, ¦×¦epsy
13:26 <philippeqc> #sd -v "zoneV2 test"
13:26 <armabot> philippeqc: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zonev2” at the moment, sorry.
13:26 <epsy> #sd -v 2
13:26 <armabot> epsy: Shrunkland in 2.8.2 ( running unix dedicated, url: http://www.swamplords.com, Description: “Small grid, no brakes“, No online players.
13:26 <epsy> pf
13:26 <wrtlprnft> can't find one in my client, either
13:26 <philippeqc> weird, I could see it on the master list!!!
13:27 <wrtlprnft> ok, connected manually
13:27 <wrtlprnft> the server terminated our connection
13:27 <wrtlprnft> Resource philippeqc/fortress/newRotation-a.aamap.xml not found in cache. Downloading it, please be patient...
13:27 <wrtlprnft> Downloading http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/philippeqc/fortress/newRotation-a.aamap.xml ...
13:27 <wrtlprnft> ERROR: Return value 404 : File not found.
13:27 <philippeqc> try again
13:27 <philippeqc> wait!
13:28 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/newRotation-a.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/newRotation-a.aamap.xml)
13:28 <philippeqc> should get the geocities link
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13:28 <wrtlprnft> no space!
13:29 <philippeqc> ok
13:29 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/newRotation-a.aamap.xml(http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/newRotation-a.aamap.xml)
13:29 <wrtlprnft> MAP_FILE is a nConfItem<tString> which means it can't contain spaces
13:29 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/newRotation-a.aamap.xml(http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/newRotation-a.aamap.xml)
13:29 <wrtlprnft> maybe do that on the server?
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13:29 <philippeqc> done it
13:30 <wrtlprnft> Downloading http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/newRotation-a.aamap.xml ...
13:30 <wrtlprnft> ERROR: Return value 404 : File not found.
13:31 <philippeqc> found it, fixing the file name on geocities
13:31 <philippeqc> ok
13:31 <wrtlprnft> now the server is down
13:31 <wrtlprnft> nvm
13:31 <wrtlprnft> mathias lost 2 points since it caused a general protection fault.
13:31 <wrtlprnft> Armagetron Advanced: [BUG] Segmentation fault
13:32 <wrtlprnft> lol?
13:32 <philippeqc> my client died
13:32 <philippeqc> how do you kill the server from its command prompt?
13:32 <wrtlprnft> server down
13:32 <wrtlprnft> QUIT
13:32 <wrtlprnft> or ctrl-c
13:33 <philippeqc> tried and tried, took 30+ sec for it to die
13:33 <philippeqc> now up again
13:33 <wrtlprnft> 0x08109b5f in zZone::Render2D (this=0x8ee9d8c, scale={x = 8.75044727, y = 8.75044727}) at tron/zone/zZone.cpp:679
13:33 <wrtlprnft> 679         shape->render2d(scale);
13:33 <wrtlprnft> (gdb) p shape
13:33 <wrtlprnft> $1 = {target = 0x0}
13:34 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/843753
13:34 <philippeqc> strange
13:34 <philippeqc> connect once more plz
13:35 <wrtlprnft> wait a sec
13:35 <wrtlprnft> i think it's the HUD code
13:35 <philippeqc> it is
13:35 <philippeqc> render2d
13:35 <philippeqc> well, could be zShape code too
13:36 <wrtlprnft> still crashes without a hud map
13:36 <philippeqc> got it too, but only if you are there
13:37 <wrtlprnft> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
13:37 <wrtlprnft> 0x081102be in zShape::TimeStep (this=0x0, time=0.0170842502) at tron/zone/zShape.cpp:150
13:37 <wrtlprnft> 150         lasttime_ = time;
13:37 <wrtlprnft> not a hud problem now :D
13:37 <philippeqc> wow
13:38 <wrtlprnft> #1  0x0810a8cf in zZone::Timestep (this=0x8ed9b8c, time=0.0170842502) at tron/zone/zZone.cpp:445
13:38 <wrtlprnft> 445         shape->TimeStep( time );
13:38 <wrtlprnft> if that matters
13:38 <wrtlprnft> this->shape is null there
13:38 <philippeqc> shape seems to be null
13:38 <philippeqc> yes
13:39 <philippeqc> while playing alone agains it, never had such issue! Strange
13:39 <philippeqc> doesnt help to debug  much
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13:48 <Vanhayes> #ping
13:48 <armabot> pong
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13:50 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: zZone sends update about the shape, but the receiving code doesnt know yet about the shape, and seems to discard them, leaving the shape to null.
13:54 <wrtlprnft> can't it queue unused shapes somehow and wait for the corresponding zone to arrive?
13:55 <philippeqc> good question, I have no idea!
13:55 <philippeqc> this is REALLY old code
13:56 <philippeqc> read sync shape 2206
13:56 <philippeqc> Received zShape::ReadCreate with id 2205 2205
13:56 <philippeqc> read sync shape 2161
13:56 <philippeqc> Received zShape::ReadCreate with id 3 3
13:57 <philippeqc> they should be the same numbers!
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14:05 <philippeqc> wait, apple and oranges! those are id of zone and shape, not only of shape!
14:17 <philippeqc> fixed all the references to null shapes!
14:18 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7478 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/zone/ (zShape.cpp zZone.cpp): Verify that the shape is defined before using it
14:19 <philippeqc> zShapes arrive AFTER their zones, and that cause a small possible window where the HUD would be updated, trying to refer to a null pointer
14:19 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: it should work now
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14:24 <madmax> #sd nexus
14:24 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): No online players.
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14:34 <philippeqc> I'd need help from anyone that can compile the trunk and connect to my server
14:35 <cusco> that is doable, my internet connection is slow tho
14:36 <philippeqc> ok
14:36 <cusco> ok hold on
14:36 <philippeqc> that will actually be good.
14:36 <philippeqc> it might show up more problems
14:37 <cusco> updating from svn... zzzzz
14:37 <philippeqc> ;)
14:38 <cusco> bootstrapping
14:38 <philippeqc> not so slow afterward!
14:38 <cusco> its ok
14:38 <cusco> dl speed 10K p sec
14:39 <philippeqc> dial-up ?
14:39 <philippeqc> so it compares to dial-up?
14:39 <cusco> no... itsuposed to be 6Mb connection
14:39 <cusco> but... its rubbish.. dobn't ask
14:41 <philippeqc> k
14:42 <cusco> make clean takes long :/
14:43 <philippeqc> my it sure does!
14:43 <cusco> hehe nearly there
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14:50 <wrtlprnft> back
14:50 <cusco> philippeqc: whats the server
14:50 <wrtlprnft> updating…
14:50 <philippeqc> zoneV2 test
14:50 <wrtlprnft> cusco: src/armagetronad_main --connect c83-250-137-7.bredband.comhem.se
14:50 <wrtlprnft> ;)
14:51 <philippeqc> ??? wrtlprnft
14:51 <cusco> thats your ip allright
14:51 <cusco> .se?
14:52 <philippeqc> yes
14:52 <philippeqc> yes sweden
14:58 <Vanhayes> #sd cafe
14:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): DePleTed, !RyRy!, Beta, Colos, Concord, CTT-Gonzap, cttK-Yo, CTT_emmy, earplugs, eSchumi, Mukaltin, sin, ~|DS-T|~G5, ~|DS|~ Plage, ~|DS|~ segv, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
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15:04 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
15:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 118 seconds old; Fortress Café (13/32), Fortress Café (12/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), SPACEZONE III (9/15), Wild West  =Capture The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ (8/16), WILDCAT (8/8), SPACEZONE III (8/15), Wild West  =Capture The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ (8/16), WILDCAT (8/8), Norm's Place (6/12), Norm's Place (6/12), Tigers Network (2 more messages)
15:05 <g5vc> #serverinfo
15:05 <armabot> g5vc: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
15:05 <g5vc> #serverdetails norm
15:05 <armabot> g5vc: Norm's Place: Players (6/12): Ange Noir, easytiger, killerbees19, name, Old Sitch FR, ¦A¦¦--->
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15:08 <philippeqc> thanks for the help!
15:11 -!- madmax_ is now known as madmax
15:12 <madmax> yello Vanhayes :-D
15:12 <madmax> where have you been?
15:18 <armabot> pld: blekot * SPECS/armagetronad.spec:
15:25 <epsy> blekot? O_o
15:25 <epsy> er
15:25 <epsy> >.>
15:25 <epsy> think -> write not write -> think
15:28 <K-Yo> >>
15:28 <K-Yo> ><
15:28 <epsy> Exactly!
15:41 <Vanhayes> hey madmax, im in alberta working right now, havent had internetécomputer for a while
15:41 <Vanhayes> internet/computer*
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15:53 <Vanhayes> bbl maybe
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16:02 <epsy> wow finally solved the FTS bugs :)
16:03 <guru3> antivirus for windows, what do people use?
16:04 <epsy> linux
16:04 <guru3> ... yes, now that you've played the obvious card, do you have a serious answer?
16:04 <epsy> avast?
16:04 <epsy> sorry, i meant "Avast!"?
16:05 <guru3> ok
16:05 <epsy> it's free but you4ill need to register
16:05 <guru3> indeed
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17:14 <luke-jr> btw, is it true Vista Ultimate has a builtin X server?
17:16 <luke-jr> #rating g5vc
17:16 <armabot> luke-jr: g5vc is 131st with a rating of 1586-1779 (from 1653-1868)
17:16 <luke-jr> #aka g5vc
17:16 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3954 g5vc
17:17 <g5vc> omg
17:17 <g5vc> whatta..
17:17 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
17:17 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 703rd with a rating of 1470-1514 (from 1453-1495)
17:18 <epsy> 200 ranks wow
17:18 <luke-jr> g5vc
17:18 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
17:18 <g5vc> wtf:(
17:18 <epsy> luke-jr, yesterday you were 900th :p
17:18 <luke-jr> g5vc: stop pwning me
17:18 <luke-jr> epsy: a LOT of people around the same rating as me
17:18 <luke-jr> each rank is like 0.001 different
17:19 <epsy> rofl
17:20 <luke-jr> epsy: do me a favour?
17:20 <luke-jr> say g5vc randomly
17:20 <g5vc> oowow
17:20 <epsy> g5vc randomly
17:20 <luke-jr> …
17:20 <g5vc> lol
17:20 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
17:20 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 716th with a rating of 1469-1512 (from 1453-1495)
17:20 <luke-jr> if you don't, that # goes up
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17:24 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
17:24 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 681st with a rating of 1473-1517 (from 1453-1495)
17:25 <luke-jr> #rating Aurora
17:25 <armabot> luke-jr: aurora is 158th with a rating of 1578-1808 (from 1503-1915)
17:25 <g5vc> :D
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17:32 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13
17:32 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13 is 469th with a rating of 1505-1556 (from 1507-1554)
17:32 <g5vc> #rating g5vc
17:32 <armabot> g5vc: g5vc is 161st with a rating of 1576-1733 (from 1653-1868)
17:33 <g5vc> #rating g5vc
17:33 <armabot> g5vc: g5vc is 166th with a rating of 1575-1727 (from 1653-1868)
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17:44 <K-Yo> #rating cttK-Yo
17:44 <armabot> K-Yo: cttk-yo is 374th with a rating of 1521-1603 (from 1430-1539)
17:44 <K-Yo> #rating |<
17:44 <armabot> K-Yo: |< is 374th with a rating of 1521-1603 (from 1430-1539)
17:45 <K-Yo> yeah, me and my shadow have the same rank^
17:45 <K-Yo> .aka cttk-yo
17:45 <K-Yo> #aka cttk-yo
17:45 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿4190 cttk-yo2 tan cttk-yo |<
17:47 <luke-jr> #rating "the news"
17:47 <armabot> luke-jr: the_news is 1112th with a rating of 1414-1756 (from 1150-1850)
17:48 <luke-jr> K-Yo: same person
17:48 <K-Yo> thank you luke-jr T.T
17:50 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
17:50 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 613th with a rating of 1480-1523 (from 1453-1495)
17:55 <luke-jr> #rating g5vc
17:55 <armabot> luke-jr: g5vc is 215th with a rating of 1558-1697 (from 1653-1868)
17:55 <K-Yo> #rating gameboo
17:55 <g5vc> 215 wtf?
17:55 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'gameboo'!
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18:04 <luke-jr> #rating g5vc
18:04 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
18:04 <armabot> luke-jr: g5vc is 236th with a rating of 1551-1678 (from 1653-1868)
18:04 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 562nd with a rating of 1490-1531 (from 1453-1495)
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18:16 <K-Yo> #rating ctxp4
18:16 <armabot> K-Yo: ctxp4 is 352nd with a rating of 1526-1583 (from 1528-1583)
18:16 <K-Yo> #rating |<
18:16 <armabot> K-Yo: |< is 378th with a rating of 1521-1603 (from 1430-1539)
18:16 <K-Yo> ':(
18:16 <K-Yo> :'(
18:16 <K-Yo> #rating ctxwoned
18:16 <armabot> K-Yo: ctxwoned is 473rd with a rating of 1505-1556 (from 1507-1554)
18:16 <K-Yo> =D
18:31 <luke-jr> #rating "<St|> Yo Momma"
18:31 <armabot> luke-jr: <st|>_yo_momma is 1078th with a rating of 1417-1537 (from 1395-1522)
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18:38 <luke-jr> #rating g5vc
18:38 <luke-jr> he killed frozen :o
18:38 <armabot> luke-jr: g5vc is 203rd with a rating of 1565-1670 (from 1653-1868)
18:39 <g5vc> yes, but i had lag there
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18:39 <g5vc> 200+
18:39 <g5vc> bad luke.
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18:42 <luke-jr> #rating .dro
18:42 <luke-jr> #rating lm80
18:42 <armabot> luke-jr: .dro is 204th with a rating of 1563-1935 (from 1150-1850)
18:42 <armabot> luke-jr: lm8o is 1619th with a rating of 1347-1501 (from 1294-1458)
18:49 <luke-jr> #rating noob_saibot
18:49 <armabot> luke-jr: noob_saibot is 3746th with a rating of 944-1335
18:50 <l1eNeG> бля
18:52 <l1eNeG> хде вы все епть
18:53 <luke-jr> #rating lm80
18:53 <armabot> luke-jr: lm8o is 1793rd with a rating of 1320-1461 (from 1294-1458)
18:55 <cusco> #rating madmax
18:55 <armabot> cusco: madmax is 116th with a rating of 1594-1646 (from 1597-1644)
18:59 <l1eNeG> [~]D
18:59 <l1eNeG> пейти пиво
19:00 <epsy> #tea
19:00 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): $atm$:I.C.U @.@, CTT_rugkei, DePleTed, H4ck3r, Serpente915, °°pixel
19:00 <P4> пиво ftw :)
19:01 <epsy> sure
19:01 <l1eNeG> пем все сень празьник
19:01 <P4> l1eNeG: english please
19:02 <l1eNeG>  ok
19:06 <luke-jr> #rating .dro
19:06 <armabot> luke-jr: .dro is 522nd with a rating of 1497-1665 (from 1150-1850)
19:09 <luke-jr> #rating .dro
19:09 <armabot> luke-jr: .dro is 849th with a rating of 1449-1606 (from 1150-1850)
19:09 <luke-jr> wow
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19:34 <wrtlprnft> epsy: your rss feed works like a charm :)
19:35 <wrtlprnft> although i think it has too few messages in its queue
19:35 <wrtlprnft> might be easy to miss one if you don't update really often
19:36 <epsy> 40 is too few ?
19:36 <wrtlprnft> doesn't look like 40 to me
19:37 <wrtlprnft> or did you prune it manually
19:37 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw allow_team_shuffle_up 0 sucks
19:37 <epsy> yes
19:37 <epsy> on restart it gets back to 0
19:37 <wrtlprnft> epsy: everyone tells me something different…
19:37 <epsy> lol
19:37  * wrtlprnft goes reenable it
19:38 <wrtlprnft> until somone asks me to disable it, that is
19:38 <wrtlprnft> will be enabled at the next server restart
19:38 <wrtlprnft> Posted at Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:46:15 GMT by °°Concord with ip actually -1 idk
19:39 <wrtlprnft> what triggers it to interpret something as feedback?
19:40 <madmax> shuffle_up 0 rocks!
19:40  * wrtlprnft will ignore further requests for a couple of hours
19:40 <wrtlprnft> epsy: how much did you hack the server?
19:40 <madmax> :-(
19:40 <wrtlprnft> because ¦x¦ is running on the same code
19:41 <epsy> i didn't touch the server itself why?
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19:41 <wrtlprnft> oh, ok
19:41 <wrtlprnft> 19:40 <vinavil> now we have the whole epsy hack
19:41 <wrtlprnft> that's why i thought you hacked the server
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19:42 <epsy> ah
19:42 <epsy> lol
19:43 <vinavil> sorry, he said he needed to, so i thought he did :)
19:43 <Concord> who?
19:44 <vinavil> concord: i was telling to wrtl :)
19:44 <epsy> wrtlprnft, wish the bot could announce it :O
19:44 <wrtlprnft> announce what?
19:44 <wrtlprnft> the rss feed?
19:44 <Concord> oh, /me
19:45 <epsy> wrtlprnft, yes
19:45 <vinavil> epsy: can you add !score that print the actual scoring system?
19:46 <wrtlprnft> actually it's possible
19:46 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot
19:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: That registry variable has no value.  Use the list command in this plugin to see what variables are available in this group.
19:46 <wrtlprnft> #list supybot
19:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: 'supybot' is not a valid plugin.
19:46 <wrtlprnft> #config list supybot
19:46 <Concord> that'd be good, especially when the scoring is going to be in flux
19:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: @abuse, @capabilities, @commands, @databases, @debug, @directories, @drivers, @log, @networks, @nick, @plugins, @protocols, @replies, @reply, alwaysJoinOnInvite, defaultIgnore, defaultSocketTimeout, externalIP, flush, followIdentificationThroughNickChanges, ident, pidFile, snarfThrottle, upkeepInterval, and user
19:46 <epsy> vinavil, ok
19:47 <vinavil> epsy: i'll post an example of it in #vinavil
19:47 <epsy> wrtlprnft, do not publish the feed url neither the itm's description pls :/
19:48 <wrtlprnft> itm?
19:48 <epsy> *item
19:48 <wrtlprnft> i thought you wanted the feed to be announced here
19:48 <epsy> the feed's *contents*
19:49 <wrtlprnft> well, i can't tell armabot to announce it here without publishing the URI
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19:49 <epsy> let's say i publish a second feed with ips stripped
19:49 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you make a stripped down version and move the original one somewhere safer
19:49 <epsy> ^^
19:49 <madmax> what's the feed about?
19:50 <wrtlprnft> the current location isn't exactly hard to find
19:50 <wrtlprnft> epsy: and note that i stripped the IP of the one entry i pasted in here
19:50 <epsy> heh
19:51 <epsy> well i don't really know where else to put it
19:51 <wrtlprnft> put it into a subdir under an obscure name
19:52 <wrtlprnft> and use .htaccess to disable autoindexing
19:52 <vinavil> madmax: feedback from Fortress Test Server: feed://www.armagetron.at/~rain/feedback.rss
19:52 <wrtlprnft> lol
19:52 <wrtlprnft> poor epsy 
19:52  * wrtlprnft didn't do it!
19:52 <epsy> lol
19:52  * epsy slaps vinavil hard
19:52 <vinavil> why?
19:52 <vinavil> is it a secret?
19:53 <epsy> there are sensible information in it
19:53 <wrtlprnft> it contains the ips of the people who are in it
19:53 <epsy> IPs
19:54 <wrtlprnft> epsy: why don't you just get rid of the ips altogether?
19:54  * madmax just asked what was it about
19:54 <wrtlprnft> you can still look them up if you really need them
19:54 <madmax> nice idea
19:54 <epsy> ok
19:54 <wrtlprnft> oh, and do escape < and >, please
19:54 <epsy> i did
19:55 <wrtlprnft> one of the first entries wasn't escaped
19:55 <wrtlprnft> actually it was in the title, but not in the message
19:55 <wrtlprnft> <i has dum nik> - bug u still ?
19:55 <wrtlprnft> Posted at Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:28:45 +0000 by with ip bug u still ?
19:55 <vinavil> sorry, i forgot about IPs
19:55 <epsy> yes i was actually testing it :p
19:56 <wrtlprnft> ah
19:56 <epsy> now it's fixed
19:57 <vinavil> can we fix the characters? it shows °° as a. doesn't it use utf8?
19:57 <epsy> i see it fine
19:57 <vinavil> which browser?
19:58 <epsy> firefox
19:59 <vinavil> mmm
19:59 <wrtlprnft> the file is in latin-1 and served as latin-1
19:59 <vinavil> :(
19:59 <vinavil> why not utf8?
19:59 <wrtlprnft> because arma doesn't use utf-8
20:00 <wrtlprnft> as the uri is already published…
20:00 <wrtlprnft> #help rss add
20:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (rss add <name> <url>) -- Adds a command to this plugin that will look up the RSS feed at the given URL.
20:01 <epsy> stripped IPs
20:01 <wrtlprnft> #rss add fts_feedback http://www.armagetron.at/~rain/feedback.rss
20:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:01 <wrtlprnft> #fts_feedback
20:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Concord - I like no holes || °°rain - you will be eradicated! || Concord - cool || Concord - there should be /score cmd that displays the scoring system || °°rain: longball - to leave feedback about this server || Longball|MBC - this server suck || Longball|MBC - scoring needs to give credit to individuals || Longball|MBC - make small holes || Longball|MBC - make small holes || °°Concord - (1 more message)
20:02 <wrtlprnft> #channel #armagetron plugins.RSS.announce fts_feedback
20:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:02 <wrtlprnft> #channel #armagetron plugins.RSS.announce
20:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: fts_feedback
20:02 <wrtlprnft> someone willing to test it?
20:02 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2
20:02 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod 60
20:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:03 <epsy> done :P
20:03 <wrtlprnft> it *should* notify us within 60 seconds…
20:03 <epsy> hrhr
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20:03 <armabot> New news from fts_feedback: ¦×¦Player 1 2.0 - this epsy sucks i want a new epsy =(
20:04 <wrtlprnft> INFO 2008-01-06T20:06:49 Checking for announcements at <http://www.armagetron.at/~rain/feedback.rss>
20:04 <wrtlprnft> ah, there you go
20:04 <epsy> magic :O
20:04 <vinavil> so,
20:04 <wrtlprnft> #channel #armagetron plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix ""
20:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:04 <madmax> this could be used to announce match results on ladles, afls…
20:04 <wrtlprnft> to get rid of the “New news from ”
20:05 <vinavil> i said it once and got slapped, but you are repeating it endless :D
20:05 <epsy> vinavil, !help so you can have multiple help messages, working on it :)
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20:05 <vinavil> i'm banned
20:05 <vinavil> huh
20:05 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: well, you said it once, anyone who wants to know it can get it
20:06 <wrtlprnft> so i'll just repeat it however often i want
20:06 <vinavil> so, i gave you the possibility to repeat t :)
20:06 <wrtlprnft> and i'm counting on epsy to get rid of the IPs
20:06 <vinavil> hehe
20:06 <epsy> wrtlprnft, if you speak of the way athentificating admins, it's already done
20:06 <vinavil> epsy: what about !match to reconfigure the server for tournament matches
20:07 <epsy> one thing at a time :«
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20:07 <vinavil> epsy: sorry :D
20:07  * wrtlprnft spoke of nothing O_o
20:07 <vinavil> epsy: i think wrtl meant only the rss part of it
20:07 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the IPs where ?
20:07 <wrtlprnft> in the feed
20:07 <luke-jr> #rating opo
20:07 <epsy> where do you see IPs? :D
20:07 <armabot> luke-jr: opo is 1708th with a rating of 1334-1434 (from 1301-1409)
20:08 <wrtlprnft> ah
20:08 <vinavil> epsy: wtf, you are too fast
20:08 <vinavil> drink less coffee
20:08 <epsy> lool
20:08 <madmax> yeah, some weird chars in NetNewsWire here
20:09  * epsy is thinking about the !help source file
20:09 <epsy> just dummy hp or...
20:09 <epsy> *php
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20:09 <vinavil> why isn't arma written in utf8?
20:10 <epsy> because it's old?
20:10 <vinavil> ah
20:10  * epsy hides
20:11 <wrtlprnft> there's a branch that supports utf-8
20:11 <wrtlprnft> but we're not merging it because the trunk is already broken enough
20:12 <madmax> why do players use odd looking chars on their nicks? :-)
20:12 <wrtlprnft> it's my fault that they can :-(
20:12 <wrtlprnft> bbl
20:14 <luke-jr> lol
20:14 <luke-jr> #rating madmax
20:14 <armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 118th with a rating of 1592-1648 (from 1594-1646)
20:14 <luke-jr> :o
20:14 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
20:14 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 529th with a rating of 1496-1537 (from 1486-1526)
20:15 <luke-jr> I'm gettin better
20:18 <madmax> does it consider long absence periods?
20:18  * vinavil wonders how to be unbanned
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20:31 <epsy> vinavil, ask me ?
20:31 <epsy> :P
20:31 <vinavil> heh
20:31 <vinavil> i've been unbanned :)
20:32 <epsy> vinavil, you should be unbanned now
20:32 <vinavil> heh
20:32 <vinavil> epsy: stop to spam the feed :D
20:32 <epsy> next time it happens echo "UNBAN_IP ip" >> console_input.txt
20:33 <epsy> that's really abusing the purpose of console_input.txt but blah
20:33 <vinavil> ah epsy, you made it go new line in feedbacks, perfect
20:34 <epsy> yes :)
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23:06 <luke-jr> #rating ::a
23:07 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about '::a'!
23:07 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr:live
23:07 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'luke-jr:live'!
23:07 <luke-jr> hm
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Log from 2008-01-07:
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00:03 <g5vc> #rating luke-jr
00:03 <armabot> g5vc: luke-jr is 559th with a rating of 1491-1529 (from 1486-1526)
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00:55 <IAB> spidey: come play black ice
01:19 <spidey> ?
01:35 <IAB> nvm
01:35 <IAB> that was a while ago
01:35 <IAB> do you happen to have the settings to midget flag still?
01:47  * IAB flicks spidey
01:47 <IAB> if you still have them and you're willing to share /msg me -- I'm going to run outside for a smoke
01:48 <spidey> IAB, ask lizz
01:48 <spidey> i don't have access to the dedi anymore
01:57 <IAB> how can I get ahold of her?
01:57 <IAB> the forum?
02:00 <IAB> is the site down, too?
02:00 <IAB> it's been a long time since I've accessed it
02:03 <IAB> nvm - got it
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04:57 <luke-jr> the AI appear to be excellent rubber players
05:00 <P4> yea, and good mazers
05:01 <P4> luke-jr: you know darva? :)
05:02 <luke-jr> who?
05:02 <P4> the same mechanism that dbot :D
05:02 <P4> quite smart chatbot :þ
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07:19 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
07:19 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 466th with a rating of 1500-1539 (from 1503-1536)
07:19  * luke-jr purged the dead UIDs
07:20 <MrBougo> #rating hello
07:20 <armabot> MrBougo: hello is 1320th with a rating of 1372-1488 (from 1373-1487)
07:20 <luke-jr> O.o
07:21 <luke-jr> Net::Server::Proto::TCP=GLOB(0x84433e4) : New connection from
07:21 <luke-jr> Net::Server::Proto::TCP=GLOB(0x84433e4) > rank_rating hello :live
07:21 <luke-jr> Net::Server::Proto::TCP=GLOB(0x84433e4) < 1429.89245108069 57.7684468313969 0.0600096791070482 1319
07:21 <luke-jr> Net::Server::Proto::TCP=GLOB(0x84433e4) > read_rating hello :trunk
07:21 <luke-jr> Net::Server::Proto::TCP=GLOB(0x84433e4) < 1429.89245108069 56.8200497057798 0.0600096791070482
07:21 <luke-jr> Net::Server::Proto::TCP=GLOB(0x84433e4) : Closed connection
07:21 <luke-jr> oops
07:22 <MrBougo> hrhrhr
07:23 <luke-jr> :þ
07:29 <MrBougo> bye
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09:03 <luke-jr> z-man: I found a way to recreate that data-stuck-in-rcvbuffer bug, I think
09:03 <luke-jr> z-man: SIGSTOP the server for 5 seconds or so and let it resume
09:04 <luke-jr> will test later
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12:54 <vinavil> #lastseen epsy
12:54 <armabot> vinavil: ¦×¦epsy:ePlayer has last been seen on Fortress Café 17 hours 26 minutes ago.
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14:08 <vinavil> eddiefantastic: can you give me (or better give epsy) the script you are using in flower power? i mean the one that make "message of the day" be full screen and stay there till you play enter. Thanks in advance.
14:09 <vinavil> *press enter i meant
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14:10 <vinavil> i wish to use it for FTS, to give fortress rules. also wrtlprnft_ could add it to café
15:53 <wrtlprnft_> vinavil: that's not a script i think
15:53 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
15:54 <vinavil> what is it?
15:54 <wrtlprnft> it should be working already in new versions
15:54 <wrtlprnft> you just need a client newer than to see it
15:57 <vinavil> ok, but how to use it?
16:02 <wrtlprnft> MESSAGE_OF_DAY
16:02 <wrtlprnft> i think
16:03 <wrtlprnft> that existed for a long time, but it used to be a regular console message that wasn't read by anyone
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16:46 <armabot> fts_feedback: ~|DS|~ Judders - hello || ~|DS|~ Judders - can u make it so 2 gankers cannot beat 2 defenders
16:47 <armabot> fts_feedback: ¦×¦ L3g10nna1r3 - im banned
16:48 <armabot> fts_feedback: ~|DS|~ Judders - in fact can u config it so u cannot gank at all?
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17:08 <armabot> fts_feedback: ¦×¦ L3g10nna1r3 - how about 5 zones per team? 4 small and one big? it would be far more competative
17:25 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: please do not act on any feedback involving the term “ganker”
17:25 <vinavil> :D
17:25 <vinavil> i'll not
17:25 <vinavil> heh
17:25 <vinavil> epsy: where art thou?
17:44 <wrtlprnft> ok, finally fixed the SHUFFLE_UP issue on café
17:44 <wrtlprnft> i hope everyone's happy now
18:03 <vinavil> what was the issue?
18:11 <vinavil> epsy: knock
18:18 <epsy> vinavil, follow the white rabbit
18:18 <vinavil> matrix
18:18 <g5vc> :D
18:18 <epsy> nom de dieu de putain de merde de salopperie de connard d'enculé te ta mère
18:19 <vinavil> oh, nice
18:19  * epsy actually wonders how it was translated into english
18:19 <epsy> maybe totally different text
18:19 <vinavil> yeah
18:19 <vinavil> it doesn't sounfd in english
18:19 <vinavil> french is so beautiful
18:20 <epsy> #babelize fr en nom de dieu de putain de merde de salopperie de connard d'enculé te ta mère
18:20 <armabot> epsy: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
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18:20 <vinavil> hah
18:20 <epsy> #babelize fr en nom de dieu de putain de merde de salopperie de connard d'enculé te ta mere
18:20 <epsy> #babelize fr en nom de dieu de putain de merde de salopperie de connard d'encule te ta mere
18:20 <armabot> epsy: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
18:20 <armabot> epsy: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
18:20 <epsy> O_o
18:21 <vinavil> is that the sentence that the sir on matrix says?
18:22 <epsy> that guy who controls the « choo-choo » program ? :P
18:22 <vinavil> anyway, what about the script, pepsi?
18:22 <vinavil> heh
18:22 <epsy> yes?
18:22 <vinavil> no?
18:22 <g5vc> die?
18:22 <vinavil> maybe?
18:22 <g5vc> ok?
18:22 <vinavil> full stop
18:23 <epsy> partial stop
18:23 <epsy> xD
18:23 <vinavil> epsy, how is going on you work
18:23 <g5vc> xD
18:23 <g5vc> epsy, be my dick.
18:23 <epsy> g5vc, no :S
18:23 <g5vc> ow :(
18:23 <epsy> vinavil, what would i work on today? :P
18:23 <vinavil> g5vc, what kind of girl will want you with such a penis?
18:24 <g5vc> :D
18:24 <vinavil> epsy: score is done?
18:24  * epsy kills vinavil 
18:24 <vinavil> and help?
18:24 <epsy> sec :)
18:24 <vinavil> :D
18:24 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: if it should be enabled or not
18:25 <vinavil> didn't get your sentence wrtlprnft
18:25 <wrtlprnft> 18:03 <vinavil> what was the issue?
18:25 <wrtlprnft> 18:24 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: if it should be enabled or not
18:25 <vinavil> heh
18:25 <vinavil> ok, thx wrtl
18:25 <wrtlprnft> just a short delay
18:25 <vinavil> :D
18:25 <wrtlprnft> learn to think in threads :)
18:25 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: learn to be human
18:26 <wrtlprnft> pfft
18:26 <vinavil> today i woke up at 4 o'clock
18:26 <vinavil> :D
18:26 <epsy> LOL!
18:26 <wrtlprnft> so that's what you call human?
18:26 <wrtlprnft> no way i'm gonna do that
18:26 <vinavil> epsy was dreaming g5 dick at that time
18:26 <epsy> uhm
18:27 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: that was unrelated
18:27  * epsy wonders why vinavil didn't die
18:27  * epsy kills vinavil again
18:28 <g5vc> :D
18:28  * vinavil dodges epsy hits
18:28 <g5vc> zomg
18:28  * epsy catches vinavil 
18:28  * g5vc says: stop that.
18:29 <g5vc> :D
18:29  * epsy thinks saying « /me says: » sucks
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18:29  * g5vc true
18:30  * vinavil runs and runs to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
18:30  * g5vc zomg
18:31 <vinavil> z-man: thx for the new version, got just one timer hickup at start but was compensed
18:31 <vinavil> epsy, come to my channel
18:31 <z-man> vinavil: good, let's see what the other errors will be doing.
18:32 <vinavil> z-man: also the fps rate seems better, i'll keep using it and report
18:32 <vinavil> epsy: i mean vinavil, not oops
18:33 <wrtlprnft> *insert comment about the term “frames per second rate” here*
18:33 <wrtlprnft> is that sort of a framerate acceleration thing?
18:33 <z-man> vinavil: the FPS increase may be due to other optimizations done since, I assume that is what you are comparing to?
18:34 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: sorry, i'm not english, should we talk in italian?
18:34 <z-man> (largely wishful thinking there, of course)
18:34 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i noticed my fps went better on higher speed_facotrs
18:34 <vinavil> z-man: indeed
18:34 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: won't help :P
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18:34 <wrtlprnft> by the way, low TIME_FACTORs freeze the game for me
18:34 <wrtlprnft> but as it's an undocumented feature…
18:34 <z-man> howlow?
18:34 <armabot> fts_feedback: Luzifer - we want holes!
18:34 <wrtlprnft> low == <1
18:34 <wrtlprnft> like .9
18:35 <vinavil> yes, the game freeze a little more
18:35 <epsy> weird :S
18:35 <z-man> does it freeze only when you go online or also in a local game?
18:35  * epsy wants all servers at 10 speed_factor
18:35 <wrtlprnft> local game
18:35 <z-man> Hmm, will test it.
18:35 <wrtlprnft> actually, wait a sec
18:36 <wrtlprnft> it only freezes if i go to 10, then back to .9
18:37 <z-man> Ah, that's normal then :)
18:37 <wrtlprnft> just played with it some more
18:37 <epsy> a freeze shouldn't be « normal »
18:37 <wrtlprnft> if i go to 1.1 and then to .9 it just freezes for a bit
18:37 <wrtlprnft> probably that bit is growing with the difference between the factors ;)
18:38 <z-man> exactly :)
18:38  * z-man will add a note not to change it while the game is running to the nonexistant documentation
18:39 <wrtlprnft> wow, slow motion arma
18:39 <epsy> lol
18:53 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: err, did you disable holes?
18:53 <vinavil> of course
18:54 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:54 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw, can two users watch the same (gnu) screen ? :P
18:55 <wrtlprnft> yeah
18:55 <epsy> heh
18:55 <wrtlprnft> makes for fun sessions
18:55 <wrtlprnft> right, vinavil?
18:55 <K-Yo> where can i find the map of the fort test server? my DNS can't access the resource site :s
18:55 <wrtlprnft> epsy: wanna try it?
18:55 <vinavil> right what?
18:56 <wrtlprnft> 18:54 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw, can two users watch the same (gnu) screen ? :P
18:56 <epsy> vinavil, come, you need to input the !help scores text
18:56 <vinavil> oh, the screen, of course
18:59 <vinavil> come where?
19:02 <vinavil> epsy: come where?
19:03 <z-man> Whatever I commit to SVN now, it needs to get reverted (SVK really freaking out this time, I hope I told it to accept all remote commits)
19:03 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7479 / (7 files in 6 dirs):
19:03 <z-man> aww, crap
19:04 <epsy> vinavil, screen session
19:04 <vinavil> ow
19:05 <vinavil> omg vim
19:05 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: feel free to do something productive
19:05 <wrtlprnft> there you go
19:05 <epsy> #ping
19:05 <epsy> >.>
19:05 <armabot> pong
19:05 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: ...
19:05 <wrtlprnft> ?
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19:06  * vinavil cries
19:06 <wrtlprnft> sorry
19:06 <wrtlprnft> undone
19:06 <wrtlprnft> whatever i did wrong
19:07 <wrtlprnft> how does it feel, being watched
19:07 <armabot> fts_feedback: °°rain: luz - || Luzifer - smaller arena = attackers can reach the enemy zone faster = requieres team work to block
19:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7480 / (/ armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp): Restored joystick input and enabled it by default. Can't test here lacking the hardware, let's see what mess I made this time :)
19:07 <z-man> oh noes.
19:07 <wrtlprnft> oh, by the way, it's confusing to work in a screen session that someone else owns with a bigger terminal
19:08 <epsy> heh
19:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7481 / (/ armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp):
19:08 <wrtlprnft> z-man: great job increasing our revision number. maybe we'll reach 10000 this year :-)
19:08 <armabot> fts_feedback: Luzifer - although I would like to see my own score ;) || Luzifer - and I somehow like the scoring system
19:08 <z-man> meh
19:08 <vinavil> i said "luz: !feedback"
19:08 <wrtlprnft> lol
19:08 <vinavil> and it said operation succed
19:09 <z-man> Just don't check out the code, it's probably horribly broken
19:09 <epsy> vinavil, i can't fix that :/
19:09 <epsy> blame the one who wrote console std output
19:09 <vinavil> :D
19:10 <wrtlprnft> you know that if the "!feedback" string starts later than 20 chars from the beginning the line it shouldn't be considered a !feedback anymore
19:11 <vinavil> so why it says that?
19:11 <wrtlprnft> i know that [0] a: b: is practically impossible to parse
19:12 <epsy> i'ill tweak the « player nick » regexp to limit it to 15 chars
19:13 <wrtlprnft> obviously the “real” solution would be to track all player nicks and their ids and use that to identify the nick
19:14 <armabot> fts_feedback: Kamakazi - suicide should not cost you a point
19:14 <epsy> wrtlprnft, good idea...will look into that
19:15 <armabot> fts_feedback: ¦A¦lex - test || ¦A¦lex - what about a character limitation and spam protection for this function
19:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7482 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs): reverted to r7478, blaming SVK.
19:17 <epsy> ...
19:17 <vinavil> mm
19:17 <wrtlprnft> armabot is quite chatty at the moment
19:17 <epsy> #eliza are you chatty ?
19:17 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
19:17 <MrBougo> #eliza sux
19:17 <armabot> MrBougo: Can you elaborate on that?
19:17 <MrBougo> no
19:18 <MrBougo> #markov
19:18 <armabot> fts_feedback: .:] flash - the zones should be moved a bit to the center to give the attacker more space
19:18 <MrBougo> #markov
19:18 <MrBougo> oh ok
19:19 <MrBougo> what's that !feedbac thingy?
19:19 <epsy> !fts_feedback
19:19 <epsy> #fts_feedback
19:19 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦Player 1 2.0 - this epsy sucks i want a new epsy =( || ~|DS|~ Judders - hello || ~|DS|~ Judders - can u make it so 2 gankers cannot beat 2 defenders || ¦×¦ L3g10nna1r3 - im banned || ~|DS|~ Judders - in fact can u config it so u cannot gank at all? || ¦×¦ L3g10nna1r3 - how about 5 zones per team? 4 small and one big? it would be far more competative || Luzifer - we want holes! || °°rain: luz (2 more messages)
19:19 <epsy> :)
19:19 <MrBougo> #help fts_feedback
19:20 <armabot> MrBougo: (ftsfeedback [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for ftsfeedback at the RSS feed <http://www.armagetron.at/~rain/feedback.rss>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
19:20 <MrBougo> yea and what's that thing? :p
19:20 <wrtlprnft> it's feedback on fts
19:20 <MrBougo> the markov tsuff should come soon
19:20 <epsy> haha
19:20 <MrBougo> what's fts?
19:20 <wrtlprnft> fortress test server
19:20 <epsy> fortress test server
19:20 <MrBougo> ooh
19:20 <MrBougo> old bugfarm?
19:20 <MrBougo> or another one
19:21 <epsy> #ping
19:21 <armabot> pong
19:21 <MrBougo> can i has markov plz? kthx
19:21 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:21 <MrBougo> i #markov'd two times
19:21 <MrBougo> 4 minutes ago
19:21 <MrBougo> #help markov
19:21 <armabot> MrBougo: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
19:22 <wrtlprnft> #reload Markov
19:22 <wrtlprnft> this sucks.
19:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
19:22 <MrBougo> hrhr
19:22 <MrBougo> #markov
19:22 <armabot> #urlunquote "%5b%22"
19:22 <MrBougo> there should be some weekly cleanup of the markov database
19:22 <MrBougo> #wisdom
19:22 <armabot> “„if it's not coming up :-p *not although i still recon i can login to it i don't think it needs to sit down and implement logins ;p hows it goin arma ppls #rating Fear No, I don't get sent chats for example Stewie-arma: it was on about 20 minutes ago 139. ctxp4 1502 - 1555 1482 - 1536 #rating Aurie http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/843753 #weather 75023 mkzelda: you mean, less non- alphabetic (1 more message)
19:22 <MrBougo> #more
19:22 <armabot> MrBougo: non- whitespace chars? luke-jr: !
19:22 <wrtlprnft> i have no clue why it stops working
19:23 <epsy> wtf is that mess
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19:23 <MrBougo> lol epsy
19:23 <MrBougo> #help widsom
19:23 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no command "widsom".
19:23 <MrBougo> #wisdom
19:23 <armabot> lol Yes, apart from the relevant buffer that's not a valid uri s freako02: the only way to costly did that other alias trick which bot is supposed to get kicked huh? #wisdom we're just coasting along nicely i think it's a pov-ray rendering And that while loop located at gGame line 1895 can we fix the makefile for it to custom connect and no changes were made and if not prompt for metadata try (1 more message)
19:23 <MrBougo> #help wisdom
19:23 <armabot> MrBougo: (wisdom <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron]".
19:23 <MrBougo> #more
19:23 <armabot> MrBougo: #m instead ? heh
19:24 <MrBougo> #wisdom
19:24 <epsy> #more
19:24 <armabot> epsy: - || Luzifer - smaller arena = attackers can reach the enemy zone faster = requieres team work to block || Luzifer - although I would like to see my own score ;) || Luzifer - and I somehow like the scoring system || Kamakazi - suicide should not cost you a point || ¦A¦lex - test || ¦A¦lex - what about a character limitation and spam protection for this function || .:] flash - the zones should be (1 more message)
19:24 <MrBougo> #more epsy
19:24 <armabot> MrBougo: moved a bit to the center to give the attacker more space
19:24 <epsy> #more
19:24 <armabot> epsy: moved a bit to the center to give the attacker more space
19:24 <epsy> #more
19:24 <MrBougo> hrhr
19:24 <armabot> epsy: Error: That's all, there is no more.
19:24 <MrBougo> #more epsy
19:24 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: That's all, there is no more.
19:25 <epsy> <armabot> MrBougo: #m instead ? hehc
19:25 <epsy> ?
19:25 <MrBougo> so what about my wisdom
19:25 <epsy> oh
19:25 <epsy> :P
19:25 <MrBougo> i asked for some wisdom
19:25 <MrBougo> #markov
19:25 <wrtlprnft> let's have an
19:25 <wrtlprnft> #insight
19:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The profound diminishment of rain forests will hasten our World Wide Web.
19:25 <MrBougo> lets have a crazylated one
19:25 <MrBougo> #crazylate [insight]
19:26 <armabot> MrBougo: Diminishment of tropical desires of the forests accelerates deeply our world-wide Web.
19:26 <vinavil> my forests?
19:26 <wrtlprnft> supper
19:26 <MrBougo> haha the same one
19:26 <MrBougo> have fun with it wrtlprnft
19:26 <armabot> do note I am new to maps and Quarg was helping but has gone mad?
19:26 <MrBougo> oh here's my markov
19:26 <MrBougo> wtf
19:26 <epsy> armabot, you do think ?
19:26 <MrBougo> my wisdom should come soon
19:27 <epsy> ah yes, he replaced wrtlprnft :S
19:27 <MrBougo> #help you
19:27 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no command "you".
19:27 <MrBougo> hrhr
19:27 <epsy> *she
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19:27 <epsy> Opera mini wont work on my cell phone :S
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19:28 <armabot> heh #later tell epsy* i am looking for the corresponding zone to arrive? lol #aka freako I think the troublemaker got banned enough time #markov one sorry MrBougo, I dont recall meeting you, so I'll probably put off any upgrades till after Xmas tho, so no worrys no... itsuposed to be running, why? :/ oh well, it should be at least i have hosted with me? i think #serverdetails ID%rubber i (1 more message)
19:29 <MrBougo> here it is, 3 minutes after
19:29 <MrBougo> or maybe this is the one i requested 8 minutes before
19:29 <MrBougo> #more
19:29 <armabot> MrBougo: wonder what should i put a public request or willing to test it?
19:30 <MrBougo> bbl
19:36 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7483 / (/ armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ui/uInput.cpp):
19:37 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7484 / (4 files in 3 dirs):
19:37 <z-man> Gaaa!
19:37 <epsy> lol
19:37  * z-man gives up
19:37 <z-man> When SVK is broken, it stays broken.
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19:38  * K-Yo T.T
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19:44 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7485 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): another SVK undo commit. bye-bye, SVK.
19:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7486 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings.cfg: Added non-existing comment about TIME_FACTOR to non-existing documentation.
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23:03 <luke-jr> #aka <fo$ho>
23:03 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿315 <fo$ho>
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23:45 <luke-jr> #rating lm80
23:45 <armabot> luke-jr: lm8o is 1299th with a rating of 1381-1492 (from 1339-1451)
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01:51 <armabot> fts_feedback: Insert - flashy = no fun :P
02:08 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: the server "somehow" allows players check everyones ip again, also delire etc are available for not logged in players. please if you meet epsy tomorrow ask him to take a look if he can find the bug. thank you.
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02:51 <luke-jr> #rating tyler
02:51 <armabot> luke-jr: tyler is 2155th with a rating of 1260-1438 (from 1261-1438)
02:53 <luke-jr> #rating auc|__k
02:53 <armabot> luke-jr: auc|__k is 786th with a rating of 1452-1514 (from 1452-1512)
03:22 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
03:22 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 434th with a rating of 1507-1540 (from 1503-1536)
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05:13 <luke-jr> btw, someone should point threads like http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14241 out to me sometime ;p
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07:20 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy* 02:08 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: the server "somehow" allows players check everyones ip again, also delire etc are available for not logged in players. please if you meet epsy tomorrow ask him to take a look if he can find the bug. thank you.
07:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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07:59 <luke-jr> #rating freako
07:59 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
07:59 <luke-jr> :D
07:59 <armabot> luke-jr: freako is 397th with a rating of 1513-1572 (from 1515-1570)
07:59 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 396th with a rating of 1514-1551 (from 1517-1548)
08:37 <spidey> #rating luke-jr-is-a-noob
08:37 <armabot> spidey: I don't know anything about 'luke-jr-is-a-noob'!
08:37 <spidey> #rating jesus
08:37 <armabot> spidey: jesus is 825th with a rating of 1446-1721 (from 1446-1720)
08:37 <spidey> ..
08:37 <spidey> #rating GOD
08:37 <armabot> spidey: god is 168th with a rating of 1572-1726 (from 1573-1725)
08:38 <spidey> bleh
08:38 <luke-jr> lol
08:38 <spidey> you're supposed to say "I don't know anything about 'god'!
08:38 <spidey> :<
08:39 <luke-jr> that's godtodd
08:39 <spidey> GodTodd #rating god
08:39 <luke-jr> …
08:39 <spidey> ..
08:39 <luke-jr> #rating GodTodd
08:39 <luke-jr> retard
08:39 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'godtodd'!
08:40 <spidey> u
08:40 <spidey> i need sleep
08:40 <spidey> bbl
08:40 <luke-jr> u
08:41 <GodTodd> dammit...quit blinking me
08:41 <luke-jr> ok GodTodd
08:42 <luke-jr> sorry to bother you
08:42 <GodTodd> #luke-jr is a retard
08:42 <armabot> I agree wholeheartedly!
08:43 <luke-jr> lol
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09:02 <GodTodd> looks better this way probably...
09:03 <GodTodd> armabot: luke-jr is a retard
09:03 <armabot> I agree wholeheartedly!
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20:58 <vinavil> epsy: have you been informed about the bug in FTS?
20:59 <vinavil> epsy: yesterday everyone was able to do !ip and !delire (etc...), even if the output was private for the user, they could get it.
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21:00 <epsy> vinavil, fixed
21:00 <vinavil> epsy: oh, thank you, agian :)
21:00 <vinavil> again*
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22:42 <armabot> fts_feedback: .:] ~ X ~ - ¥:¢
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22:46 <fonkay> hello?
22:47 <xfroggy> thats badass I can spam #armagetron from the server now :D ^^
22:51 <armabot> fts_feedback: .:] ~ X ~ - get a tail shrink! ( ct|kyle -> HOLLA!!!! )
22:53 <ct|kyle> nice
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23:01 <armabot> fts_feedback: madmax - i think scores should be mainly on the positive side of 0 || madmax - and dont use negative scores as often
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06:59 <luke-jr> http://tinyurl.com/3dpxm4
06:59 <luke-jr> think it would do us any good if I bought 1000 ads for Arma on there?
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08:50 <luke-jr> #rating ctxp4
08:50 <luke-jr> P4:
08:50 <armabot> luke-jr: ctxp4 is 397th with a rating of 1516-1582 (from 1523-1587)
08:50 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
08:50 <luke-jr> pwnt ☺
08:50 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 380th with a rating of 1518-1555 (from 1517-1548)
08:57 <GodTodd> armabot, luke-jr is a noob.
08:57 <armabot> I agree wholeheartedly!
10:06 <luke-jr> #rating durka
10:06 <armabot> luke-jr: durka is 642nd with a rating of 1475-1625 (from 1476-1625)
10:08 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
10:08 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 369th with a rating of 1520-1561 (from 1523-1558)
10:14 <luke-jr> #aka durka
10:14 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3148 |spy| durka
10:14 <luke-jr> #rating |x|_durka
10:14 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_durka is 59th with a rating of 1622-1817 (from 1623-1816)
10:14 <luke-jr> #aka |x|_durka
10:14 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿4401 |x|_durka
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10:43 <kidanger> #serverinfo wild west
10:43 <armabot> kidanger: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “wild west” at the moment, sorry.
11:20 <luke-jr> omg
11:21 <luke-jr> why does every browser except Konqueror SUCK?
11:21 <luke-jr> and the sad thing is that there is actually a fix to make IE work
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12:08 <Durka> #kill luke-jr
12:08 <armabot> luke-jr will die on Wed Jan  9 12:11:19 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
12:08 <luke-jr> crap
12:08 <luke-jr> #help kill
12:08 <armabot> luke-jr: (kill <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will die on $now due to being stabbed in the eye by $who".
12:08 <luke-jr> aha, the date is now now
12:08 <luke-jr> #rating |x|_Durka
12:09 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_durka is 59th with a rating of 1622-1817 (from 1623-1816)
12:09 <Durka> k um
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12:33 <madmax> madmax__ is a personal best x_x
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20:47 <Akash> #list
20:47 <armabot> Akash: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
20:48 <Akash> utilities
20:49 <Akash> #list cia
20:49 <armabot> Akash: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
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20:57 <Akash> #list utilities
20:57 <armabot> Akash: apply, echo, ignore, last, shuffle, and success
20:57 <Akash> #list success
20:57 <armabot> Akash: Error: 'success' is not a valid plugin.
20:58 <Akash> #list apply
20:58 <armabot> Akash: Error: 'apply' is not a valid plugin.
20:58 <wrtlprnft> #help utilities success
20:58 <wrtlprnft> #help utilities apply
20:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (utilities success [<text>]) -- Does nothing except to reply with a success message. This is useful when you want to run multiple commands as nested commands, and don't care about their output as long as they're successful. An error, of course, will break out of this command. <text>, if given, will be appended to the end of the success message.
20:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (utilities apply <command> <text>) -- Tokenizes <text> and calls <command> with the resulting arguments.
20:59 <Akash> was just trying it out..
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??
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21:00 <Akash> onad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??v
21:00 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetr
21:00 <Akash> onad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for ar
21:00 <Akash> magetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats for armagetronad??any cheats
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21:01 <wrtlprnft> 20:59 -!- Irssi: Starting query in FreeNode with Akash
21:01 <wrtlprnft> 20:59 <Akash> any cheats for armagetronad??
21:01 <wrtlprnft> that guy was annoying
21:02 <MrBougo> lol
21:02 <MrBougo> for armagetronad??v
21:03 <MrBougo> ... good night
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21:07 <madmax> what the hell
21:07 <z-man> Almost as annoying as luke-jr :)
21:07 <madmax> btw, wrtlprnft, that shuffling message every round is quite annoying
21:07 <madmax> and I think we all agree on that one
21:09  * z-man is trying to get a mono+monodevelop build with debugger
21:10 <z-man> It feels a bit funny to see and run programs named .exe in Linux, I have to admit that :)
21:17  * z-man loves the configure->get-error-message->get-missing-program->configure loop
21:21 <wrtlprnft> madmax: better now?
21:22 <madmax> thanks :-)
21:22 <wrtlprnft> and don't make me have that message only appear every second week
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21:28 <K-Yo> ...
21:28 <K-Yo> that could be nice =D
21:28 <K-Yo> XD
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22:05 <luke-jr> z-man: ⁈⁈
22:06 <g5vc> :O
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23:02 <tramshed> hmm
23:02 <tramshed> anyone in here run armagetron servers on bsd?
23:02 <luke-jr> IIRC, Arma was just very recently ported to BSD
23:03 <tramshed> yeah, ive got it runnin, but its got a memory leak
23:03 <luke-jr> :o
23:03 <tramshed> its a small one
23:03 <luke-jr> not pigsty, right?
23:03 <tramshed> pigsty?
23:03 <luke-jr> groundpig's patch
23:04 <tramshed> nah
23:04 <tramshed> just the plain code
23:04 <tramshed> no patches
23:04 <luke-jr> hm
23:04 <luke-jr> enable the memory debugging?
23:04 <tramshed> the leak is small, and takes about a week before it hits the servers limits and it kills it off
23:04 <tramshed> havnt thought about that
23:04 <luke-jr> o
23:04 <luke-jr> I never run servers that long
23:04 <tramshed> hoped it was something someone had encountered
23:04 <luke-jr> use DEDICATED_IDLE 24 or smth ☺
23:05 <tramshed> yeah, im not around to start it back up
23:05 <luke-jr> while true; do … ;done
23:05 <luke-jr> ☺
23:06 <tramshed> its currently using almost as much ram as a q3 dedicated server
23:06 <tramshed> 82m vs 94
23:06 <tramshed> err
23:07 <tramshed> 8.2 vs 9.4
23:07 <tramshed> no, wait
23:07 <tramshed> I was right the first time
23:07 <tramshed> hmm, he must of removed the limit
23:07 <tramshed> used to kill it at 40
23:09 <tramshed> granted, its still got 3.5gb free, but still
23:10 <luke-jr> lol
23:11 <luke-jr> I believe we include an init script with the game
23:11 <luke-jr> use that to keep it alive
23:11 <tramshed> dunno if itll work but Ill give it a shot
23:11 <tramshed> this box is a fussy bastard
23:11 <tramshed> dragonflybsd
23:28 <z-man> If you run ./configure while the shell variable DEBUGLEVEL is set to 2, the build will have memory profiling compiled in.
23:28 <z-man> It would be useful if you could give that a try.
23:29 <z-man> Of course, if the leak really comes from a library we use, such as libxml2, we won't find it.
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00:08 <spidey> tramshed, yea
00:08 <spidey> tramshed, the AA install i was using, and tremulous
00:09 <spidey> AA used more ram
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00:26 <libervisco> Two Armagetron Advanced matches scheduled: http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com/content/armagetron-advanced-tournament: Saturday, January 12 2008  * 19 hours GMT: Group 1 Qualifier Match NO1 (or more)
00:26 <libervisco> -- Sunday, January 13 2008   * 19 hours GMT: Group 2 Qualifier Match NO1 (or more)
00:30 <luke-jr> Page not found
00:31 <spidey> rofl
00:31 <xfroggy> wait freedomware is still in progress?
00:31 <luke-jr> it's just starting…
00:32 <xfroggy> ooh...
00:32 <xfroggy> i though its about to end...
00:32 <luke-jr> rofl
00:32 <xfroggy> :S
00:34 <xfroggy> luke-jr, why it says 2007 then?
00:34 <spidey> gar
00:34 <xfroggy> :/
00:34 <spidey> steam isn't letting me get a free copy of portal :<
00:35 <spidey> http://www.steampowered.com/nvidia/
00:36 <luke-jr> haha
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00:37 <spidey> http://wtfhax.net/cms/?page=main
00:37 <spidey> =D
00:37 <luke-jr> dumb spidey
00:37 <spidey> i haven't figured out if i want to do modules or not
00:37 <spidey> you're dumb
00:37 <spidey> :<
00:37 <luke-jr> linking to CSS/XHTML validation when his site FAILS TOTALLY
00:38 <luke-jr> This page is not Valid XHTML 1.1!
00:38 <luke-jr> Result:
00:38 <luke-jr>  Failed validation, 31 Errors
00:38 <spidey> hey
00:38 <spidey> hrm
00:38 <luke-jr> rofl
00:38 <spidey> Congratulations! No Error Found.
00:38 <spidey> ...
00:38 <spidey> oh
00:38 <spidey> that's the xhtml
00:38 <spidey> the css is fine
00:39 <luke-jr> yeah, the XHTML isn't tho
00:43 <spidey> aye
00:43 <spidey> how is <form name="" wrong?
00:43 <spidey> how else am i supposed to name forums =/
00:46 <spidey> oh well
00:46 <spidey> it was in the template
00:46 <spidey> i don't care if it's valid or not =p
00:46 <spidey> and half those errors
00:46 <spidey> are because of the news system
00:47 <spidey> the "id" in &id=
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01:35 <liberweesco> http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com/content/armagetron-advanced-tournament
01:35 <liberweesco> It was page not found cause the : crept in
01:36 <liberweesco> xfroggy, Freedomware Gamefest begun by the end of 2007 with multiple tournaments.. some are very near the second stage and some small ones like AA are beginning
01:38 <xfroggy> Oo
01:38 <xfroggy> aa is a late seed :D
01:38 <liberweesco> yeah :)
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02:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7487 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gGame.cpp: Listening to console input while waiting for players (and only spectators are there).
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02:30 <z-man> GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! gParser has no destructor!
02:31  * z-man shakes head
02:32  * luke-jr hides
02:34 <luke-jr> is trunk usable again?
02:37 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7488 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/english_base.txt: apparently I missed this a while ago
02:37 <luke-jr> err, wait… or did I just never commit RInclude at all? :x
02:37 <luke-jr> what was decided as far as resource includes?
02:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7489 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp: the rest of RInclude, since I just accidentally committed part of it; revert if you like
02:39 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7490 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gParser.cpp gParser.h):
02:39 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed memory leak caused by missing gParser destructor. The leakfinding
02:39 <armabot> armagetronad: memory manager missed it because all allocation was done through libxml2,
02:39 <armabot> armagetronad: and it passed casual code review because the corresponding delete operation
02:39 <armabot> armagetronad: did happen, just not always; a leak would occur every time a completely new
02:39 <armabot> armagetronad: game was started.
02:42 <z-man> I don't think anything was decided regarding RInclude. If it's there now, it is there.
02:42 <z-man> Trunk is usable, as long as you don't connect to zonev1 servers.
02:43 <luke-jr> does that include servers with timeout deathzones?
02:43 <z-man> Sure :)
02:43 <luke-jr> o well
02:44 <z-man> Mhh, two more leaks, one in gParser, one in the network flood protection stuff. Will look at them tomorrow.
02:44 <luke-jr> btw, do you think it'd be worth my spending $20 to advertise on http://tinyurl.com/3dpxm4 ?
02:44 <luke-jr> advertise Arma that is
02:45 <luke-jr> 1000 views-- I'm wondering if we could get maybe 100 or so new players in the community
02:46 <z-man> I don't think these "get paid to view ads" things work for either side of the deal.
02:46 <z-man> The only one making profit is the company arranging the deal.
02:47 <luke-jr> hrm
02:47 <luke-jr> not even if Arma is free?
02:47 <luke-jr> surely it must make sense for the advertisers, since they buy the ads :/
02:48 <z-man> Make sense != be of benefit :)
02:48 <luke-jr> heh
02:59 <z-man> Ah. Looks like someone did not read the docs of xmlGetProp.
03:00 <luke-jr> ?
03:00 <z-man> (and I forgot a delete, of course)
03:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7491 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.h: Fixed leak in machine decorators, forgot to delete this in Destroy().
03:01 <z-man> The third leak I was talking about. Tons of calls to xmlGetProp.
03:01 <z-man> which returns a char * you have to free.
03:01 <luke-jr> machine decorators?
03:02 <z-man> Heh, yeah, a construct to attach arbitrary information to client machines on the server.
03:02 <z-man> Sort of an in-memory IP lookup table.
03:02 <luke-jr> it uses xml?
03:02 <z-man> One of the silly C++ ideas I implemented. Used only in one or two places.
03:02 <z-man> no.
03:03 <z-man> I talked about two other leaks, remember?
03:03 <luke-jr> o
03:03 <z-man> One was in the xml code, the other somewhere else in the networking stuff.
03:03 <z-man> And of course, the one in the xml code really is about a million individual leaks, all calls to xmlGetProp.
03:04  * z-man will have to wrap this, but not today, way over bedtime.
03:04 <luke-jr> btw
03:04 <luke-jr> I still have 3 open bugs on 0.2.8 ☺
03:04 <luke-jr> 1. Data stuck in some receive buffer
03:05 <luke-jr> 2. If I exit the game too fast, it crashes X somehow-- seems to be fine if I wait for the "hint" on the menu to appear
03:05 <luke-jr> 3. I've been going through walls lately quite a bit
03:05 <z-man> Post about them, I'm too sleepy to remember them tomorrow :)
03:05 <luke-jr> k ☺
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04:16 <luke-jr> http://img141.exs.cx/img14½639/troutslap3si.jpg
04:52 <tramshed> oh man
04:52 <tramshed> that food was gunfire
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05:03 <luke-jr> guru3: ping
05:03 <luke-jr> anyone know his email? XD
05:06 <GodTodd_> yeah...it's fuckluke-jr@you'rearetard.com
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10:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7492 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp: RINCLUDE command now actually calls the new RInclude function :)
10:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7493 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gParser.cpp gParser.h): Fixed xmlGetProp memory leaks.
10:57 <luke-jr> …
10:57 <luke-jr> z-man: gaaH!
10:58  * luke-jr just finished deploying last nights svn up
10:58 <luke-jr> oh well, my fault XD
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11:07 <luke-jr> …
11:16 <luke-jr> there, done deploying those too ☺
11:16 <z-man> my ALT key got stuck in X :(
11:21 <luke-jr> O.o
11:21 <luke-jr> btw, you might be able to get your X to crash on too-fast-exit by disabling 3D accel
11:22 <luke-jr> I'm using software rendering
11:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7494 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tSysTime.cpp: Not compensating hickups when playing back. Makes no sense.
11:45 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7495 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/render/rConsoleCout.cpp: Unblocking stdin before every read. SIGSTOP signals cause it to get blocked, freezing the server.
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12:31 <tramshed^> shoop
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12:37 <z-man> tramshed: I think all the memory leaks are now gone. They were pretty good ad hiding.
12:38 <tramshed> oh yeah?
12:39 <tramshed> is this in the development trunk?
12:39 <tramshed> Ill have to check it out then
12:40 <tramshed> oh, I noticed on other possible bug, though it may just be my configuration
12:40 <tramshed> it wont let me change some single player values when runnin as dedi
12:40 <z-man> No, it's the 0.2.8 branch
12:40 <tramshed> namely sp_num_ais and sp_game_type
12:40 <tramshed> oh, you make a new release?
12:41 <z-man> is scheduled to arive within finite time, yes.
12:41 <tramshed> cool, Ill grab it tomorrow and see how it does
12:42 <tramshed> now if I can only remember the ./configure command I had to use to make it compile right on dragonfly, heh
12:42 <tramshed> took me a few tries to get it to work on that weirdo bsd
12:44 <z-man> You can look it up in config.status.
12:45 <tramshed> cept I think I deleted it, heh
12:45 <tramshed> trial and error ftw!
12:46 <tramshed> I was playin with settings the other day and I made a test server with 0 cycle delay and tons of axes (50+) and used the mouse to control, it was interesting
13:01 <eddiefantastic> z-man: that reminds me of a setting I looked for some time ago, BUTTON_DELAY or something, the number of milliseconds you hold down a button before it is pressed again. On high axes maps could make the bike feel more like a bike
13:22 <z-man> eddiefantastic: that would have horrible side effects on the buttons that don't turn your cycle.
13:23 <z-man> On the trunk, the new joystick control should work very well on high axis servers.
13:39 <eddiefantastic> thanks, I'll take a look
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19:06 <z-man> luke-jr: you should probably update your servers from SVN again :)
19:06  * z-man would bet they had a couple of crashes by now.
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20:45 <z-man> Oh. And now Elimination Sumo crashes every time a zone gets conquered.
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21:09 <epsy> z-man, while you're at it
21:10 <epsy> could you tweak it so « x conquered y,\n a conquered y » -> « x, a conquered y » ?
21:11 <epsy> these messages causes 25% of the lag there
21:11 <z-man> Hmm, difficult
21:11 <z-man> the enumeration would be language specific.
21:11 <z-man> And the messages are generated deep inside a function.
21:12 <epsy> hm :s
21:14 <z-man>    for(int i = 0; i < MAXCLIENTS; ++i) {
21:14 <z-man>         ePlayerNetID *player = se_PlayerNetIDs(i);
21:14 <z-man> WHO WROTE THAT?
21:15 <z-man> I better not find out it was me, or I'm going to have to give myself a good asskick.
21:15 <z-man> quite difficult.
21:16 <epsy> wtf LOL
21:16 <z-man> wrtlprnft!!!!!!!!!
21:17 <z-man> the length of the se_PlayerNetIDs() array has nothing to do with MAXCLIENTS :)
21:18 <K-Yo> Oh My God
21:18 <K-Yo> !
21:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7498 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gWinZone.cpp: Corrected konqueror log loop.
21:25 <epsy> konqueror ? you kde freak
21:26 <z-man> Aww :)
21:26 <z-man> could some of you come to Bugfarm elimination and vote-kick me off?
21:28 <xfroggy> I will be proud to do that :D
21:28 <ct|kyle> i will to
21:29 <xfroggy> if I can find it...
21:29 <ct|kyle> it will be laggy
21:29 <xfroggy> z-man is playing with us, he took the server offline :D
21:29 <xfroggy> oh nvm it showed up :D
21:31 <z-man> Hmm, it didn't work :/
21:31 <xfroggy> :/
21:32 <ct|kyle> what didn't z-man
21:32 <z-man> I did not get beamed to Flower Power.
21:32 <z-man> I forgot to add a setting, apparently.
21:33 <epsy> ?
21:33 <epsy> SERVER_WARP ?
21:34 <K-Yo> spam protection sucks...
21:34 <xfroggy> thats a koo setting lol
21:35 <xfroggy> well it didnt worked for me lol
21:35 <epsy> lol
21:37 <ct|kyle> did not know that was going to crasj z-man
21:37 <epsy> z-man, did it work?
21:37 <z-man> Np, I'll chalk this one up for the cosmic rays.
21:38 <ct|kyle> ya it worked but flower was BSoD
21:38 <ct|kyle> it should restart
21:38 <xfroggy> lol?
21:38 <ct|kyle> back up
21:38  * xfroggy confused
21:38 <epsy> z-man, what is it intended to do ?
21:38 <epsy> server playlist ?
21:38 <z-man> Dunno, really.
21:39 <epsy> er
21:39 <z-man> It was in discussion to be used to move newbs from Fortress to some other server where they are more welcome.
21:39 <xfroggy> haha
21:39 <xfroggy> good idea ^^
21:39 <epsy> LOL!
21:39 <z-man> Oh, good, now I'm banned from my own server :)
21:39 <ct|kyle> yes good idea
21:39 <ct|kyle> heh
21:40 <epsy> so a server can send a client in-extremis to an other serv ? huh
21:40 <xfroggy> we will be kicking all the ct's from cafe when you get that working :D
21:40 <g5vc> pnpz
21:40 <ct|kyle> #serverinfo flower
21:40 <armabot> ct|kyle: Flower Power Sumo Assault: No online players.
21:40 <g5vc> #kill epsy
21:40 <armabot> epsy will die on Thu Jan 10 21:44:05 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by g5vc
21:41 <ct|kyle> #kill xfroggy
21:41 <armabot> xfroggy will die on Thu Jan 10 21:44:53 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by ct|kyle
21:41 <z-man> Ok, the cosmic rays are not to blame.
21:42 <xfroggy> z-man, didnt work?
21:42 <z-man> No, Flower Power was all black again.
21:42 <xfroggy> :)
21:42 <ct|kyle> i se z-man
21:42 <ct|kyle> it should restart
21:45 <ct|kyle> i think eddiefantastic has something screwy there
21:45  * z-man should have make a bookmark
21:45  * ct|kyle should get a better ISP
21:46 <epsy> ct|kyle should move to EU
21:48 <z-man> oh, now my client crashed.
21:48  * z-man hopes the recording is any good.
21:50 <z-man> Nope, playback does not crash. great.
21:51 <ct|kyle> i think i crashed Flower
21:51 <xfroggy> lol whats new?
21:52 <ct|kyle> normally i can restart them but this one i can't
21:52 <epsy> xfroggy, d3 ?
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21:56 <epsy> hrhr
21:56 <epsy> xfroggy_, d3 ?
21:56 <xfroggy_> :/
21:56 <xfroggy_> no :/
21:56 <epsy> blah
21:56 <xfroggy_> lol ^^
21:56 <ct|kyle> d4 instead
21:56 <epsy> what can i do now
21:56 <xfroggy_> watch american dad :D
21:56 <xfroggy_> xfroggy, go away
21:56 <ct|kyle> go and pwn K-Yo epsy
21:56 <epsy> ?
21:56 <epsy> .ls k
21:56 <epsy> .ls ¦<
21:57 <xfroggy_> I forgot she made me reset my modem, now I had to put all the settings again :S
21:57 <epsy> #lastseen ¦<
21:57 <armabot> epsy: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'like'
21:57 <epsy> #lastseen |<
21:57 <armabot> epsy: >|-L4mm3l-|< has last been seen on The Tavern 2 hours 34 minutes ago.
21:57 <epsy> #lastseen k
21:57 <armabot> epsy: Space Monkey seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
21:57 <epsy> ...
21:57 <ct|kyle> epsy: Please chose the right bot for the right channel
21:57 <epsy> tronner is here isn't he ?
21:58 <xfroggy_> no lol
21:58 <ct|kyle> not in #armageron
21:58 <epsy> sure ^^
21:58 <xfroggy_> lol ^^ :D
21:59 <epsy> it used to be here tho
21:59 <xfroggy_> tronner is undercover :D
22:00 <luke-jr> z-man: why would they crash?
22:00 <z-man> Various reasons.
22:00 <epsy> haha :D
22:00 <z-man> Double deletes produced by me, and a loop error from wrtl's checkins.
22:03 <luke-jr> double delete should be fine…
22:03 <z-man> ct|kyle: will you inform ed about the flower power trouble?
22:03 <z-man> luke-jr: ...
22:03 <ct|kyle> z-man: sort of
22:03 <z-man> not in C++ with virutal destructors
22:04 <ct|kyle> i said eddiefantastic Ping in #crazy-tronners
22:04 <z-man> or destructors that do anything, for that matter.
22:04 <z-man> kyle: goody.
22:04 <luke-jr> z-man: C++ ignores deletion of NULL
22:04 <z-man> Yeah, but that's not double delete :)
22:04 <z-man> double delete is
22:05 <z-man>  T * x = new T();
22:05 <z-man> delete x
22:05 <z-man> ;
22:05 <z-man> delete x;
22:05 <K-Yo> were you talking about me?
22:05 <K-Yo> what the f**k did i do :(?
22:05 <z-man> K-Yo: mm? what are you suspecting?
22:06 <K-Yo> <ct|kyle> go and pwn K-Yo epsy
22:06 <K-Yo> lies
22:06 <luke-jr> z-man: doesn't x get cleared on delete?
22:06 <z-man> No.
22:06 <ct|kyle> :D
22:06 <z-man> that's what we have a tDESTROY macro for :)
22:06 <luke-jr> O.o
22:06 <ct|kyle> K-Yo: i meant in life not in tron
22:07 <z-man> it does delete x; x=0;.
22:07 <K-Yo> he can't either
22:07 <K-Yo> i'm older, probably stronger :P
22:08 <K-Yo> and yeah, my nick |< is untrackable XP
22:08 <luke-jr> eh?
22:08 <luke-jr> #rating |<
22:08 <armabot> luke-jr: |< is 233rd with a rating of 1558-1605 (from 1554-1599)
22:08 <z-man> haha
22:08 <K-Yo> #rating cttxK-Yo
22:08 <armabot> K-Yo: cttxk-yo is 201st with a rating of 1566-1654 (from 1564-1657)
22:09 <K-Yo> =P
22:09 <luke-jr> forums down?
22:09 <epsy> #lastseen -f |<
22:09 <ct|kyle> btw luke-jr #aka is messed up
22:09 <K-Yo> #rating Z-man
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22:09 <luke-jr> #aka luke-jr
22:09 <ct|kyle> #aka ct_ky13
22:09 <luke-jr> wfm
22:09 <armabot> epsy: timed out
22:09 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'z-man'!
22:09 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿8 luke-jr
22:09 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿1516 noob ct_ky13 ctxwoned murked
22:09 <ct|kyle> i never played as any of them
22:09 <K-Yo> #quote add <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'z-man'!
22:09 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: liar
22:09 <epsy> yeah, liar
22:09 <K-Yo> shit, i'm not registered on armabot
22:09 <ct|kyle> TRUTH
22:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: then they played as you ☺
22:10 <epsy> ct|kyle, so you don'T play at all ?
22:10 <luke-jr> lol epsy
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22:10 <K-Yo> who else did we see?
22:10 <K-Yo> #aka __x__
22:10 <epsy> you?
22:10 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about '__x__'!
22:10 <epsy> it's
22:10 <ct|kyle> heh i mean any of the alternative names
22:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: then they played as you ☺
22:10 <epsy> #aka ~_x_~
22:10 <epsy> you fool
22:10 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about '~_x_~'!
22:10 <K-Yo> #aka ".:]_~_x_~"
22:10 <z-man> Oh great, the nvidia driver is crashing.
22:10 <epsy> LOL!
22:10 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿2325 *[*mr.color*]* *[mr *[*]* *[**potato**]* *[*mr.potato*] *[*mr.potato*]* .:]_~_xma$_~ .:]_~_fox_~ ct|kyle_:d say_my_name_ct| .:]_~_x_~
22:11 <K-Yo> you fool
22:11  * z-man should not have done a kernel upgrade just to connect his x-box 360 gamepad.
22:11 <luke-jr> if you want better name<->uid associations, hire someone to implement XMPP auth :þ
22:11 <epsy> gnah
22:11 <epsy> phone just shut down
22:11 <epsy> :S
22:11 <luke-jr> (or any auth, but XMPP would work best and easiest IMO)
22:11 <ct|kyle> my rating is not bad
22:11 <ct|kyle> #rating ct_ky13
22:11  * K-Yo hires someone to implement XMPP auth :þ
22:11 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct_ky13 is 397th with a rating of 1520-1579 (from 1511-1568)
22:11  * K-Yo hires someone to implement XMPP auth :þ (or any auth, but XMPP would work best and easiest IMO)
22:11 <ct|kyle> woned must be having a bad day :D
22:11 <luke-jr> …
22:12 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
22:12 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 471st with a rating of 1507-1552 (from 1520-1561)
22:12 <K-Yo> hehe i pwn u all
22:12 <epsy> #rating epsy
22:12 <armabot> epsy: epsy is 536th with a rating of 1497-1534 (from 1504-1536)
22:12 <luke-jr> I was in the top 400 the other day :x
22:12 <epsy> #aka epsy
22:12 <armabot> epsy: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2 |x|frenchellent epu|x|y epsybic epsy pep|x|i epsy|x| g4 |x|epsy |x|epsy:eplayer |x|player_1_2.o |x|baguette
22:12 <K-Yo> #rating cttxK-Yo
22:12 <epsy> :S
22:12 <armabot> K-Yo: cttxk-yo is 201st with a rating of 1566-1654 (from 1564-1657)
22:12 <K-Yo> t=P
22:12  * epsy played really bad lately
22:12 <K-Yo> #rating madmax
22:12 <armabot> K-Yo: madmax is 144th with a rating of 1582-1619 (from 1584-1615)
22:13 <z-man> Are our forums down currently?
22:13 <luke-jr> z-man: btw, deployments on my servers don't usually take effect until midnight :þ
22:13  * epsy removes his...earplugs
22:13 <luke-jr> z-man: that's what I just asked 5 min ago
22:13 <z-man> Well, I ask it again :)
22:13 <K-Yo> http://forums.armagetronad.net/?
22:13 <luke-jr> guru3:
22:14 <z-man> guru3 !!!!!!!!!!
22:14 <z-man> guru3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:14 <epsy> http://www.armagetronad.net/
22:14 <z-man> guru3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:14 <K-Yo> i can't access one site out of two in arma's world... just because of these DNS...
22:14  * z-man hopes nobody kicks him for spaming
22:14 <z-man> m
22:14 <epsy> armabot will autokick you
22:14 <guru3> what's wrong?
22:14 <z-man> Really?
22:15 <epsy> guru3 -> forums, you, z-man -> no
22:15 <guru3> i was flying to england today
22:15 <z-man> guru3: forums appear to be down.
22:15 <guru3> sorry for not being on top of things
22:15 <z-man> np
22:16 <guru3> what happens exactly?
22:16 <z-man> It's not like our lives depend on the forums.
22:16 <luke-jr> dunno, but I think airplanes are pretty high up
22:16 <luke-jr> on top of most things, I'd think
22:16 <luke-jr> guru3: times out
22:16 <z-man> yeah, here too.
22:16 <K-Yo> i'm dying...
22:16 <guru3> ok
22:16  * K-Yo dies because of a lack of forums
22:21 <guru3> any idea how long it's been like this?
22:21 <K-Yo> not me
22:23 <epsy> K-Yo, http://www.durkadurkaland.com/
22:23 <epsy> xD
22:33 <guru3> I have no clue why it's not working but I've submitted a support ticket with the host saying shit is broken.
22:39 <z-man> guru3: it's not been down long, max two hours.
22:39 <guru3> ok
22:43 <luke-jr> it's at a hosting company⁈
22:44 <luke-jr> it was really slow yesterday, but I figured it was a home connection getting bombarded
22:44 <luke-jr> (why don't we move beta and resources to the hosting company too, btw?)
22:48 <K-Yo> epsy, ?
22:48 <K-Yo> ah c un forum... merci T.T
22:58 <guru3> someone try it now
22:59 <guru3> if there isn't too much special software behind beta and the repository that could be possible luke-jr
23:10 <luke-jr> guru3: the only thing special, AFAIK, is the suid php
23:11 <luke-jr> forums seem to work now
23:11 <luke-jr> guru3: also, the repository master needs to support rsync
23:12 <luke-jr> that's how the mirrors sync
23:12 <guru3> php runs as the user on that host
23:12 <guru3> so the suid should be ok
23:12 <guru3> not sre about rsync
23:14 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
23:17 <luke-jr> hm
23:20 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=How_to_become_a_resource_repository_mirror
23:20 <luke-jr> rsync://master.resource.aa.dashjr.org/armagetron-resource/ <-- that's the rsync source
23:20 <luke-jr> can you find out if they can provide that?
23:20 <luke-jr> (obviously after I point the DNS to their machine)
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Log from 2008-01-11:
--- Day changed Fri Jan 11 2008
00:03 <wrtlprnft> z-man: err, sorry, i guess… That's what you get when adapting someone else's code
00:03 <z-man> Yeah :) Shit happens. No damage done.
00:05 <wrtlprnft> that () operator just returns 0 when its argument is out of range, right?
00:06 <wrtlprnft> i'm not saying it was good code, just wondered why it ever worked
00:14 <wrtlprnft> can't wait to have people on café kicked to DDL
00:14 <luke-jr> lol
00:15 <madmax> haha
00:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7499 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/render/rConsoleCout.cpp: Switched continuous unblocking of stdin to only doing so when SIGCONT is received. That was easy :)
00:17 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:17 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:18 <luke-jr> z-man: btw, how do we act when there's EOF on stdin?
00:19 <luke-jr> a bug in Freeciv at one point that I noted was that Ctrl-D (EOF) caused the console to be disabled
00:19 <luke-jr> not sure if it's a problem w/ Arma as well
00:24 <z-man> Well, let's try :)
00:25 <z-man> Seems to have no effect.
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00:29 <luke-jr> ☺
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00:39 <luke-jr> wb
00:39 <luke-jr> z-man: it's probably something with the radeon driver?
00:40 <luke-jr> my X crashing bug
00:40 <z-man> Yeah, that's what I would suspect.
00:41 <luke-jr> well, I'm going to be gone tomorrow evening; would you be interested in remotely debugging it while I don't care about the X crashing? :þ
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00:55 <z-man> I'm rather sure that I'm not really good at remote debugging X crashes :)
01:02 <luke-jr> I'm not sure local debugging is possible
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02:37 <luke-jr> guru3: fyi http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2007/05/03/dreamhost-sucks-at-hosting/
02:38 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7500 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
02:38 <armabot> armagetronad: • Removed TextMate project
02:38 <armabot> armagetronad: • Edited some svn:ignore properties
02:38 <armabot> armagetronad: • Small change to project file by Xcode 3 so we stay compatible with 2.4
02:45 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
02:47 <luke-jr> http://www.nouptime.com/
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03:09 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7501 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
03:09 <armabot> armagetronad: • Only build for native architecture in “Debug” builds
03:09 <armabot> armagetronad: • Changed to a valid CFBundleSignature to silence a warning
03:15 <luke-jr> why isn't nemo on IRC anymore?
03:15 <luke-jr> oh right he's [dlh], isn't he?
03:15 <[dlh]> maybe
03:15 <luke-jr> [dlh]: was that last commit just OSX?
03:16 <[dlh]> yeah
03:16 <luke-jr> k
03:16 <luke-jr> [dlh]: what name do you play under?
03:16 <[dlh]> I mostly go by “free kill” nowadays
03:17 <luke-jr> #rating "free kill"
03:17 <armabot> luke-jr: free_kill is 3485th with a rating of 1072-1543
03:17 <luke-jr> :o
03:17 <[dlh]> what servers is the rating generated from?
03:17 <luke-jr> #aka "free kill"
03:17 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿2355 free_kill
03:17 <luke-jr> [dlh]: a bunch of them
03:18 <[dlh]> I only play in shrunkland and the like
03:18 <luke-jr> Swampland of Hate,Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress,Fortress Cafe,Swampland in 0.2.8,Some Random Server Hold the Flag,GreenZone,Wild West (Sumo),Wild West (Wild Fortress),Wild West (Misc),Wild West (Capture the Flag)
03:18 <luke-jr> at least those
03:18 <luke-jr> tho WW isn't active yet, I think
03:19 <luke-jr> not sure if SRSHTF exists either
03:19 <[dlh]> Yeah, I don't really hang out in any of those—I'd probably play in swampland if shrunkland was full, and if it had people
03:20 <luke-jr> that explains why your rating range is so large
03:21 <luke-jr> Swampland of Hate, Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress, Fortress Cafe, Swampland in 0.2.8, GreenZone <-- participating servers with "title" set and have been active
03:27 <luke-jr> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress, Eclipse'd.EC|d, Fortress Cafe, GreenZone, Swampland in 0.2.8, Swampland of Hate, ~"XzL
03:27 <luke-jr> more listed now ☺
03:45 <luke-jr> well, that was a dumb bug
03:46 <luke-jr> when someone renamed, I was allocating a new UID for the target name and then immediately replacing that name's association with the orignal one
03:46 <luke-jr> making tons of dead UIDs off the bat
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03:57 <luke-jr> :O
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04:02 <luke-jr> wb ct|kyle
04:02 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13
04:03 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13 is 289th with a rating of 1540-1593 (from 1542-1590)
04:05 <ct|kyle> #aka ct_ky13
04:05 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿1516 noob ct_ky13 ctxwoned murked
04:08 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: think layman is up to KDE4?
04:08 <luke-jr> what?
04:08 <ct|kyle> the KDE 4 overlay in layman. do you think it has the KDE4 code
04:08 <ct|kyle> the one that releases soon
04:10 <luke-jr> it doesn't
04:10 <luke-jr> they're jerks
04:11 <ct|kyle> who?
04:11 <luke-jr> they have the ebuilds made, but refuse to commit it until the release
04:11 <luke-jr> #genkdesvn
04:11 <ct|kyle> ah
04:11 <luke-jr> KDE 4.0 has been marked for a week now
04:11 <ct|kyle> ya i knew the builds were made
04:11 <luke-jr> btw, remember it's not usable yet
04:11 <ct|kyle> marked but still updating
04:11 <ct|kyle> ya
04:11 <ct|kyle> i know
04:12 <luke-jr> not still updating
04:12 <ct|kyle> i've seen the bugs
04:12 <luke-jr> there are 0 changes to 4.0 as of a week ago
04:12 <luke-jr> I think
04:12 <ct|kyle> nope
04:12 <ct|kyle> i just got the SVN today and still had some updated
04:12 <ct|kyle> updates*
04:12 <luke-jr> the 4.0 tag?
04:13 <luke-jr> http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.0.0/
04:13 <ct|kyle> svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
04:13 <ct|kyle> ya
04:13 <luke-jr> that's 4.0 branch
04:13 <luke-jr> not 4.0 tag
04:13 <ct|kyle> ah
04:13 <luke-jr> branches/KDE/4.0 is what will become 4.0.1
04:13 <luke-jr> actually
04:13 <luke-jr> join #genkdesvn
04:13 <luke-jr> they're committing 4.0 now
04:14 <ct|kyle> ah
04:14 <ct|kyle> i'm there
04:14 <ct|kyle> was there
04:15 <ct|kyle> and luke-jr the bug that was fixed this morning still is in it on layman
04:16 <xfroggy> so they actually will be releasing 4.0 with that nonfunctional taskbar?
04:16 <luke-jr> is it still nonfunctional?
04:16 <luke-jr> no surprise, I guess
04:16 <luke-jr> kmail et al are still 100% broken and data loss buggy
04:16 <xfroggy> idk, last svn I tried was 2+ weeks ago
04:16 <luke-jr> though kdepim isn't part of 4.0 because of tht
04:17 <xfroggy> but looking at the screenshots ct|kyle send me last night, it didn't change
04:18 <luke-jr> figures
04:18 <luke-jr> the main thing about 4.0 I'm hoping for is Windows Konqueror, tbh
04:18 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: are you on pre KDE4 now?
04:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: heck no
04:18 <luke-jr> I need my kmail
04:18 <luke-jr> and korganizer
04:18 <luke-jr> etc
04:18 <ct|kyle> ah
04:18 <xfroggy> lol so I'm guessing KDE 4.0 will be pretty much like Vista
04:18 <ct|kyle> better that that POS
04:18 <xfroggy> won't be half as functional till the next release :D
04:21 <xfroggy> brb change DNS
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04:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.0.0/
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05:02 <luke-jr> all 8 Wild West participating in ratings now :D
05:03 <ct|kyle> nice luke-jr
05:03 <xfroggy> #rating ".:] ~ X ~"
05:03 <armabot> xfroggy: .:]_~_x_~ is 398th with a rating of 1521-1570 (from 1523-1568)
05:03 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
05:04 <xfroggy> bigger = better? :D
05:04 <luke-jr> yes
05:04 <luke-jr> except in rank
05:04 <xfroggy> lol
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06:45 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
06:45 <luke-jr> ☹
06:45 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 499th with a rating of 1505-1554 (from 1507-1552)
06:49 -!- luke-jr is now known as Kuke-jr
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06:56 <Guest_605> #rating Vanhayes
06:56 <armabot> Guest_605: I don't know anything about 'vanhayes'!
06:57 -!- Guest_605 is now known as Vanhayes
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07:54 <Kuke-jr> I suck at CTF ☹
07:54 <Kuke-jr> #rating luke-jr
07:54 <armabot> Kuke-jr: luke-jr is 701st with a rating of 1474-1524 (from 1475-1522)
08:03 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7502 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/build_tools/process_files.rb: Fixed #determine_source_kind to correctly identify svn checkouts. Corrects problem of the version not showing up on the title screen.
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08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7503 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (7 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: • Only build for native architecture in dedicated “Debug” builds as well.
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: • Remove package files build step from dedicated target
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: • Pass in useful command-line arguments for dedicated target (--datadir, etc…)
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: • Added “Create Client Release”, “Create Dedicated Release”, and “Create Full Release” targets. The disk images are placed in $BUILT_PRODUCTS_DIR (build/Release usually).
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: The “Create Client Release” target checks to see if you have an $AA_RECORDER_APP environment variable set, and if you do the recorder app will be included in the disk image. For example I have in my .bash_profile:
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad:  AA_RECORDER_APP="/Users/Shared/Applications/Games/Armagetron Advanced Recorder.app"
08:22 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7504 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Remove intermediate folder holding package files
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09:31 <tramshed> harhaer
09:32 <Kuke-jr> #rating /dev/null
09:32 <armabot> Kuke-jr: /dev/null is 290th with a rating of 1543-1609 (from 1545-1607)
09:32 <Kuke-jr> tramshed: can I kill you a few times plz?
09:32 <tramshed> hah
09:32 <tramshed> im burnin dvds right now, so no tron for me
09:32 <tramshed> been burning since this morning
09:32 <tramshed> down to my last two dvds
09:33 <Kuke-jr> meh
09:33 <tramshed> then im going to move my gentoo install to a different drive
09:33 <Kuke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/*swampland_hate
09:33 <tramshed> and change my whole partitioning scheme
09:34 <tramshed> who the fuck is bluemagix
09:34 <Kuke-jr> lol
09:34 <tramshed> no really
09:34 <tramshed> that dude doesnt play on hate
09:34 <tramshed> maybe, like, once
09:35 <Kuke-jr> #aka bluemagicxxxmas
09:35 <tramshed> http://stats.catapultingfeces.com/
09:35 <armabot> Kuke-jr: ¿2203 blue_magic bluemagicxxxmas
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10:21 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
10:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 5 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Norm's Place (5/12), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (2/16)
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12:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7505 /private/z-man/clio/ (14 files): Adaptions to Io-2008-01-07. Still crashes, but at least it compiles now :)
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7506 /private/z-man/clio/iclassinfo.cpp: Yay, fixed the crash. Some tests even pass!
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12:20 <luKe-jr> http://dot.kde.org/1200050369/
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12:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7507 /private/z-man/clio/gcpointer.hpp: Another adaption to new Io.
12:25 <zmanuel> Well, 66% of tests still passing after cosmetic corrections isn't too bad for letting a project sleep for a year :)
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12:41 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7508 /private/z-man/clio/tests/virtual.test/output.txt: That test only had cosmetic output changes.
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12:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7509 /private/z-man/clio/tests/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Apparently, the priority of messages and arithmetics has changed. Previously, "1+1 println" would write 2, now you need to type "(1+1) println". Two more tests pass.
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12:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7510 /private/z-man/clio/tests/basic.test/ (output.txt test.cpp): Another case of priority change.
12:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7511 /private/z-man/clio/tests/reference.test/output.txt: Another cosmetic output chage. Yay, only one of the tests really fails!
13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7512 /private/z-man/clio/tests/smartpointer.test/ (output.txt test.cpp): Heh, loop syntax seems to have changed, too. Need to find a more elegant way. That makes, after "cosmetic" corrections, zero failing tests. Woo!
13:01 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
13:18  * z-man is proud about clio and should probably finish it, even if we're not going to use it for arma.
13:19 <luKe-jr> heh
13:19 <luKe-jr> things look like scripting will be via stdio now
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18:51 <epsy> #armaconfig decorate
18:51 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
18:51 <StickyNoob> i forget, is there a way to make 0.3 do the old style of camera?
18:52 <P4> StickyNoob: you mean faster and notrelative glances?
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18:52 <g5vc> #kill epsy
18:52 <armabot> epsy will die on Fri Jan 11 18:56:02 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by g5vc
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18:57 <K-Yo> #list herald
18:57 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: 'herald' is not a valid plugin.
18:57 <K-Yo> ah... tronner has it :P
18:59 <wrtlprnft> wow
18:59 <wrtlprnft> clio is not dead?!
18:59 <wrtlprnft> woot!
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19:20 <libervisco> Just a reminder everyone, tomorrow and on sunday we have some matches scheduled :)
19:20 <libervisco> goodkoen, epsy and free-zombie tomorrow at 19 hours GMT
19:21 <libervisco> zion, Lackadaisical and MaZuffeR on sunday at 19 hours GMT
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19:54 <epsy> libervisco, ok
19:56 <libervisco> Is there a delay for the server to show up in master list after enabling talk to server?
19:56 <libervisco> Also, is password command used to set the password for users on the server?
20:01 <libervisco> Alrighty, "Freedomware Gamefest EU server" is in the master list - low rubber, LMS, unlimited rounds, 10 points first wins - feel free to practice :)
20:01 <libervisco> Same for "Freedomware Gamefest US server"
20:02 <libervisco> Just need to figure out how to set up password.. in case I succeed the password is being sent in a reminder email ;)
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20:11 <wrtlprnft> libervisco: there is no password for users on a server
20:11 <wrtlprnft> at least not without external scripts
20:12 <libervisco> ok, just got that on forums :)
20:12 <libervisco> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=13131&highlight=password
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21:21 <madmax> is there a better server list than the one on http://beta.armagetronad.net/serverlist.php ?
21:23 <madmax> there's a reference on the wikipedia's article for that, but that page has servers repeated...
21:25 <luKe-jr> madmax: wanna fix it?
21:25 <luKe-jr> the one on the main site is down
21:25 <luKe-jr> as is the one it links to for a replacement
21:26 <madmax> no php skills
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21:31 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
21:31 <wrtlprnft> as well as a few other sites that get the information from that feed
21:31 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: timeout
21:31 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:32 <wrtlprnft> wtf
21:33 <wrtlprnft> uh, works fine for me from an external server
21:33 <wrtlprnft> there's a list at the bottom of http://crazy-tronners.com/
21:34 <luKe-jr> Timeout on server
21:34 <luKe-jr> Connection was to wrtlprnft.ath.cx at port 80
21:34 <madmax> well, the one linked in wikipedia should be one in an "official" page IMO
21:34 <luKe-jr> madmax: then there is none other than the beta one
21:34 <luKe-jr> IMO, that one should be trashed and replaced with wrtl's XML service
21:35 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft.ath.cx ( is definately down
21:35 <wrtlprnft> wtf²
21:35 <madmax> its working for me now
21:35 <luKe-jr> 11:  xe-2-0-0.fra20.ip.tiscali.net (        asymm 15 157.115ms
21:35 <luKe-jr> last hop
21:36 <madmax> well, I guess replacing that page shouldn't be hard to do :-P
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21:37 <luKe-jr> actually
21:37 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetron.co.uk/servers/servers_online.php ← another browser
21:37 <wrtlprnft> but it's javascript based
21:37 <luKe-jr> even more idea would be integrating the XML service into one of the master servers
21:37 <luKe-jr> err
21:38 <wrtlprnft> you'd still have to keep polling the servers from time to time
21:38 <luKe-jr> why?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> because they only send information to the masters when they're empty
21:38 <madmax> huh, just noticed a "Green Zone Armagetron Clan" in the external links section
21:38 <luKe-jr> o
21:38 <madmax> (of the article)
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21:57 <wrtlprnft> woot.
21:57 <wrtlprnft> my little arma client script finally sort of works
22:01 <wrtlprnft> it actually appears to be faster than the client
22:01 <wrtlprnft> *the real client
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22:02 <ct|kyle> z-man: i wanna teleport to flower
22:02 <wrtlprnft> although z-man will probably hit me for so totally abusing his protocol. It's probably sheer luck that it works
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22:06 <luKe-jr> lol
22:06 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: AJAX⁈
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22:07 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: maybe now we can demand GLTron implement the same protocol XD
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22:08 <luKe-jr> hi philippeqc
22:09 <philippeqc> hello
22:09 <philippeqc> I'm having trouble with compiz
22:09 <luKe-jr> kill it
22:09 <philippeqc> it is stuck on "mouse hover bring window to foreground"
22:09 <luKe-jr> actually, I wonder if kwin4 will give us problems
22:09 <wrtlprnft> luKe-jr: ajax?
22:09 <wrtlprnft> no, php
22:09 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: a joke
22:09 <wrtlprnft> no visuals
22:10 <wrtlprnft> it can read config
22:10 <wrtlprnft> currently adapting it to read the scores of any server
22:10 <wrtlprnft> and i want to add a #later tell thing for arma
22:10 <luKe-jr> lol
22:10 <luKe-jr> cross-server?
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22:11 <wrtlprnft> well, you won't be able to issue #later tell commands from servers
22:11 <wrtlprnft> but you can do in here
22:11 <luKe-jr> why not :x
22:11 <madmax> nice
22:11 <wrtlprnft> and the script that polls the servers already can then see if that player's online
22:11 <wrtlprnft> another thing would be announcing messages on tournament servers
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22:15 <luKe-jr> tournament servers can use scripts
22:15 <philippeqc> grrr!
22:16 <luKe-jr> a client connection only makes sense if you don't have such access
22:16 <philippeqc> the bugger restart with my window manager
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22:23 <wrtlprnft> try to have every server use the same script
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22:36 <Bosf> #list
22:36 <armabot> Bosf: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
22:36 <Bosf> #list wheater
22:36 <armabot> Bosf: Error: 'wheater' is not a valid plugin.
22:36 <Bosf> :(
22:36 <wrtlprnft> #list weather
22:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: cnn, ham, weather, wunder, and wunder rss
22:36 <wrtlprnft> learn to spell
22:36 <Bosf> :)
22:37 <Bosf> user name's rapid have an ascii signature.
22:37 <Bosf> he says i must go in var.
22:37 <Bosf> (folder var)
22:37 <Bosf> but he dont say what i must do then.
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22:38 <Bosf> where is the config of armagetron?
22:38 <philippeqc> back for real
22:38 <wrtlprnft> what os?
22:38 <Bosf> sorry
22:38 <wrtlprnft> hi :-)
22:38 <philippeqc> darn, it was set like in 3 different places
22:38 <Bosf> ubuntu 7.10
22:38 <wrtlprnft> ~/.armagetronad/config
22:38 <Bosf> ~?
22:38 <wrtlprnft> you need to create that dir if it isn't there
22:38 <wrtlprnft> ~ = home dir
22:39 <Bosf> and when i create it...
22:39 <Bosf> and there isnt any files!
22:39 <wrtlprnft> the default config is in /etc/games/armagetronad or something like that
22:39 <wrtlprnft> just look for the lines you need and put them into a new text file called ~/.armagetronad/config/autoexec.cfg
22:40 <Bosf> i need when are saved instant chat settings.
22:41 <wrtlprnft> oh
22:41 <wrtlprnft> why didn't you say that?
22:41 <wrtlprnft> ~/.armagetronad/var/user.cfg
22:41 <wrtlprnft> search for INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_0
22:42 <Bosf> thanks
22:42 <Bosf> but how can i open it?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> any text editor
22:43 <wrtlprnft> dunno what ubuntu has installed by default
22:43 <Bosf> only in command line i can access this folder.
22:43 <Bosf> yeah!
22:43 <Bosf> thanks
22:43 <Bosf> gedit "user.cfg"
22:43 <Bosf> :)
22:43 <wrtlprnft> :)
22:44 <wrtlprnft> actually you should be able to do this in any file browser
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22:44 <wrtlprnft> just that most don't show dirs/files starting with . by default because they're hidden
22:44 <Bosf> ...
22:44 <Bosf> and...
22:44 <cusco> ctrl + h
22:44 <wrtlprnft> but you should be able to type /home/<username>/.armagetronad in the address line
22:44 <cusco> to show hidden files under nautilus
22:44 <cusco> or that
22:45 <Bosf> how can i type (instant type) chat over 12?
22:45 <Bosf> i know its F1 F2 F3...to instant write instant 1 instant 2 instant 3...
22:46 <Bosf> but i havent got F 13 and more :D
22:46 <cusco> nor do I
22:46 <wrtlprnft> Bosf: what version of arma are you using?
22:46 <wrtlprnft> in any recent version there should be 25 or 26 instant chats
22:47 <Bosf>
22:47 <Bosf>
22:48 <Bosf> well how can i do that?
22:49 <wrtlprnft> just via the menus…
22:49 <wrtlprnft> player config->player 1->instant chat setup
22:49 <wrtlprnft> to edit the strings
22:49 <wrtlprnft> and player config->player 1->input config (or something like that) to assign them to keys
22:50 <Bosf> omfg i am noob
22:50 <wrtlprnft> #help rating
22:50 <Bosf> thanks
22:51 <wrtlprnft> yw
22:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
22:51  * wrtlprnft noticed
22:51  * Bosf thank at all!!!!!
22:51 <Bosf> bye
22:51 <wrtlprnft> but that's ok, at least you listened to what we told you
22:51 <wrtlprnft> cya
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22:52 <cusco> yea he did
22:52 <cusco> thats uncommun
22:52 <wrtlprnft> #alias add serverscores "web fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/scores.php?name=[urlquote $*]]"
22:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:52 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
22:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: TEAMS: Team blue (78), Team gold (60) PLAYERS: ß|AoS| (6) (Team blue), Ryu (4) (Team blue), |x|Cid (12) (Team gold), rain (14) (Team blue), Tîger (6) (Team blue), Pablonzo (0) (Team gold), Misiek (0) (Team gold), siro (2) (Team blue), Al (2) (Team blue), Gutsy Gibbon (10) (Team gold), cttK-Yo (0) (Team gold), ~|DS-T|~G5 (0) (Team gold), Kufumaster (0) (Team gold), LP|Ice (1 more message)
22:52 <wrtlprnft> needs converting
22:54 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
22:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: TEAMS: Team blue (2), Team gold (6) PLAYERS: Misiek (0), Ryu (0) (Team blue), |x|Cid (0) (Team gold), rain (0) (Team blue), Tîger (0) (Team blue), Sithy (0) (Team blue), Pablonzo (0) (Team gold), ß|AoS| (2) (Team blue), siro (0) (Team blue), Al (0) (Team blue), Gutsy Gibbon (0) (Team gold), cttxBoulangerie (0) (Team gold), ~|DS-T|~G5 (2) (Team gold), Kufumaster (0) (Team (1 more message)
22:54 <wrtlprnft> the bad thing is that it won't work for full servers
22:54 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores norm
22:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Norm's Place: TEAMS: one/arm\bandit (2), Frank Black (1), Tommy@Annika (8), |GTAST| GArbaGe (8), |BmK| V.T.G (7), twee (3) PLAYERS: one/arm\bandit (2) (one/arm\bandit), Frank Black (1) (Frank Black), Tommy@Annika (8) (Tommy@Annika), |GTAST| GArbaGe (8) (|GTAST| GArbaGe), |BmK| V.T.G (7) (|BmK| V.T.G), tw0xffffffee (3) (twee)
22:55 <wrtlprnft> needs some tweaking as a whole ;)
22:55 <vinavil> what is it?
22:55 <wrtlprnft> :w
22:55 <wrtlprnft> oops
22:55 <wrtlprnft> it connects to the server in real time
22:55 <vinavil> ohh, nice
22:55 <wrtlprnft> as a fake client
22:56 <wrtlprnft> and grabs the scores
22:56 <vinavil> so it was you that "armabot"
22:56 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:56 <vinavil> i was wondering :)
22:56 <vinavil> nice work
22:56 <wrtlprnft> it can actually do more
22:56 <wrtlprnft> it can chat :)
22:56 <wrtlprnft> think of #later tell
22:57 <vinavil> that would be very interesting
22:58 <wrtlprnft> still needs sorting and all that
22:58 <vinavil> can you make it take messages for it and print here?
22:58 <wrtlprnft> the other way
22:58 <vinavil> for example that it takes messages that start with #
22:59 <wrtlprnft> because your idea would require the script to stay logged into the server
22:59 <vinavil> i see
22:59 <vinavil> but would be useful for administrators in tournaments
22:59 <wrtlprnft> :)
22:59 <vinavil> :)
23:19 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
23:19 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ctf
23:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café:
23:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ctf” at the moment, sorry.
23:20 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores wildcat
23:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: "WILDCAT: <br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to udp:// (Failed to parse address &quot;;) in <b>/www2/serverlist/serverinfo2.php</b> on line <b>477</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in (1 more message)
23:20 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores nexus
23:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): PLAYERS: LP|Vyn (3), Neph (2), rick troyson (1), ¦WhïtêWèb (1), Innes (0), Player 1 (-3)
23:20 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
23:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: TEAMS: Team gold (84), Team blue (38) PLAYERS: ~|DS-T|~G5 (10) (Team gold), $atm$ I.C.U (8) (Team gold), Lackadaisical (8) (Team blue), MaZuffeR (8) (Team blue), [nc]Boulangerie (8) (Team gold), .:] SageRoar (6) (Team gold), lpâtissier|AoS| (6) (Team blue), madmax (6) (Team gold), |x|Cid (4) (Team gold), ¦×¦Baguette (4) (Team blue), Al (2) (Team blue), Tîger (2) (Team (1 more message)
23:20 <P4> nice nice :)
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23:22 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores wildcat
23:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: WILDCAT: Sorry, I won't connect to any server outside the port range of 4534–4540.
23:23 <wrtlprnft> at least it doesn't throw tons of errors now :)
23:23 <wrtlprnft> P4: it's still somewhat buggy
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23:24 <wrtlprnft> the error handling sucks and i haven't figured out how to know when the server is finished sending the player info
23:24 <duudii> pretty neat!
23:25 <duudii> wildcat is on port 4532, btw..
23:26 <wrtlprnft> it's a problem with the database
23:26 <wrtlprnft> it stores the port number as an enum from 4534 to 4540
23:27 <wrtlprnft> i can't change it anymore because the DB is so huge
23:27 <wrtlprnft> it would be down for more than a day probably
23:28 <P4> oh
23:28 <P4> does your script connect to the server (like a bot) to get the scores?
23:29 <wrtlprnft> like a normal client
23:29 <wrtlprnft> like a spectator before 0.2.8, to be exact
23:30 <P4> oh
23:31 <P4> #serverscores wild catfight
23:32 <armabot> P4: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:32 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:32 <P4> looks like supybot error not script
23:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:32 <wrtlprnft> which is even weirder
23:32 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores wild catfight
23:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: PLAYERS: CT׶4 (0)
23:33 <wrtlprnft> sec
23:33 <wrtlprnft> was that server empty?
23:33 <P4> hmmm… the bot didn't connect there
23:33 <P4> no, im there (spect)
23:33 <wrtlprnft> it did :)
23:33 <wrtlprnft> did you check the logs?
23:33 <P4> no, i just check the console :)
23:33 <wrtlprnft> you won't see it there
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23:33 <P4> great! :)
23:34 <wrtlprnft> let's make another version that chats :)
23:34 <P4> #serverscores wild catfight
23:34 <P4> haha :)
23:34 <armabot> P4: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: Something went wrong.
23:34 <wrtlprnft> weird
23:34 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores wild catfight
23:34 <P4> the server was closed at the 2nd try (Something went wrong.)
23:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: Something went wrong.
23:35 <P4> it's open now
23:35 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores wild catfight
23:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight:
23:35 <wrtlprnft> empty, apparently
23:35 <wrtlprnft> or buggy ;)
23:35 <P4> empty
23:36 <wrtlprnft> good
23:36 <epsy> wrtlprnft, fts and x fort runs lastet 0.2.8 ?
23:36 <epsy> with intercept_command etc ?
23:36 <wrtlprnft> as of a week or so ago
23:37 <wrtlprnft> epsy: sources are in ~/armasrc-0.2.8-svn
23:37 <wrtlprnft> svn up and then just make and make install
23:37 <epsy> ok
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23:39 <beta|AoS|> hi !
23:40 <madmax> yes i read it
23:40 <madmax> wrtlprnft
23:40 <wrtlprnft> woot :)
23:40 <wrtlprnft> thanks
23:40 <wrtlprnft> i'll send another one, tell me if you get it
23:40 <wrtlprnft> sorry for interrupting you
23:41  * beta|AoS| read it too
23:41 <wrtlprnft> should be sent
23:41 <beta|AoS|> twice
23:41 <wrtlprnft> did you get one right now?
23:41 <MaZuffeR> yes
23:41 <beta|AoS|> yeah
23:41 <wrtlprnft> thanks a bundle :)
23:42 <epsy> luKe-jr, you there ?
23:43 <epsy> luKe-jr, will INTERCEPT_COMMANDS instercept commands which aren't preceeded by / ?
23:43 <epsy> lots of typos :S
23:44 <beta|AoS|> wrtlprnft: what will be the use of your bot ?
23:44 <wrtlprnft> maybe an irc command to deliver a message to a player when they go online
23:44 <epsy> what bot ?
23:44 <epsy> :S
23:44 <wrtlprnft> the bot i just unleashed on cafe
23:44 <epsy> #tea
23:44 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): Imagine, .:] SageRoar, Aki Akamaru, Al, Lackadaisical, madmax, MaZuffeR, noone, Sithy, ß|AoS|, Tîger, |x|Cid, ~|DS-T|~G5, ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Legit, °°pixel
23:44 <wrtlprnft> logs in, creates a new player, calls it armabot, displays a message and leaves
23:45 <epsy> heh
23:45 <beta|AoS|> wrtlprnft: ok thx
23:46 <wrtlprnft> yw
23:46  * epsy will better look in the src
23:46 <wrtlprnft> #svn
23:46 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
23:46  * epsy gets to the working copy on fts lol
23:47 <epsy> it's weird how much stuff is in ePlayer.cpp
23:48 <beta|AoS|> agree ><
23:48 <wrtlprnft> heh
23:48 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7513 /private/wrtlprnft/serverinfo.php: Added a copy of my hacked together AA library. Sparse documentation will follow on the forums
23:48 <beta|AoS|> AA lib in arma ? oO
23:49 <P4> ascii art? :)
23:49 <epsy> hm
23:49 <epsy> yes it'ill only take commands preceeded by /
23:49 <wrtlprnft> should have said PHP-aa
23:50 <beta|AoS|> phpaa ? p-hydroxyphenylacetic acid
23:50 <beta|AoS|> 	?
23:51 <epsy> PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor: Hypertext Preprocessor: Hypertext Preprocessor: Hypertext Preprocessor: Hypertext Preprocessor
23:51 <wrtlprnft> lol epe
23:51 <epsy> basically
23:51 <wrtlprnft> *epsy
23:52 <beta|AoS|>  That's not the part i was confuzed about ><
23:52 <beta|AoS|> So there *is* ascii art in arma ? oO
23:52  * epsy uses a custom font 
23:52 <epsy> so no
23:53 <beta|AoS|> ?
23:53 <wrtlprnft> beta|AoS|: no
23:53 <epsy> luKe-jr, you should move the if (se_InterceptCommands.StrPos(command) != -1) stuff outside if (say.StartsWith("/"))
23:53 <wrtlprnft> it's got nothing to do with ascii art
23:53 <wrtlprnft> it's a set of PHP classes that allow you to connect to servers
23:54 <beta|AoS|> wrtlprnft: oh ok ><
23:54  * beta|AoS| is a noob
23:55 <wrtlprnft> wait for my forums post
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23:57 <epsy> what does a >> b; mean ?
23:57 <beta|AoS|> shift ?
23:57 <epsy> in C++ :)
23:58 <beta|AoS|> o
23:58 <beta|AoS|> i'll stick with shift -_-"
23:59 <philippeqc> epsy: it is the "read" operator

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00:00 <philippeqc> where a is a stream, you can populate b
00:00 <epsy> i see
00:00 <philippeqc> and << is a write operation
00:01 <epsy> gnah
00:01 <epsy> my term has a bad encoding
00:01 <epsy> better
00:04 <epsy> ok it looks like working
00:06 <epsy> good night, cya
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00:07 <wrtlprnft> beta|AoS|: in case you care: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=193934#193934
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00:16 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: does it only join in spectator mode?
00:17 <luKe-jr> #later tell epsy INTERCEPT_COMMANDS only works with / prefix because only / prefix is a command
00:17 <armabot> luKe-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:17 <luKe-jr> #later tell epsy a typo'd / won't be posted to the public, for example
00:17 <armabot> luKe-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:18 <luKe-jr> #later tell epsy also, the implementation being StrPos wouldn't work outside of the / prefix either
00:18 <armabot> luKe-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:23 <beta|AoS|> hey, yeah thx for the link wrtlprnft
00:24 <wrtlprnft> luKe-jr: for getting the scores it joins in the old pre-0.2.8 spectator mode
00:24 <wrtlprnft> that means the other clients won't even notice it
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00:24 <wrtlprnft> for printing a message it has to create a new player
00:25 <wrtlprnft> which means that on ≥0.2.8 it will be a spectator player, and on pre-0.2.8 it'll be a regular player
00:25 <wrtlprnft> but it doesn't stay on the server very long
00:25 <wrtlprnft> in fact it sends the message directly after announcing the player
00:25 <wrtlprnft> without even waiting for a reply
00:26 <wrtlprnft> and immediately after that it sends its quit message
00:26 <madmax> anyone here tried html fetching with python?
00:26 <wrtlprnft> you mean http?
00:27 <madmax> er, yeah. urllib
00:28 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so, no
00:28 <wrtlprnft> i did do http serving, though, but that's something different
00:28 <madmax> was taking a look at this: http://www.boddie.org.uk/python/HTML.html
00:29 <wrtlprnft> looks easy enough
00:29 <madmax> yeah
00:29 <madmax> but i'm unable to read from a https site for some reason
00:30 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: IIRC, modern servers force all specs to be visible
00:31 <luKe-jr> madmax: I've done HTTP with Python
00:31 <luKe-jr> not HTTPS tho
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00:33  * luKe-jr ponders implementing Arma network in KTron
00:36 <luKe-jr> #aka iamabean
00:36 <armabot> luKe-jr: ¿4823 brazil gasoline_doll .!vnv!_teatime .dbd|teatime iamabean
00:37 <wrtlprnft> luKe-jr: well, they don't
00:37 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: they don't?
00:38 <wrtlprnft> luKe-jr: old clients don't even send the name for spectating players
00:38 <luKe-jr> o
00:38 <luKe-jr> interesting
00:38 <luKe-jr> do they tie up a slot?
00:38 <wrtlprnft> yeah
00:38 <wrtlprnft> one slot = 0-4 players
00:39 <luKe-jr> eh
00:40 <luKe-jr> one slot = 1 player
00:40 <wrtlprnft> splitscreen?
00:40 <wrtlprnft> every client can have 4 players
00:40 <luKe-jr> O.o
00:40 <wrtlprnft> all of which can be flagged as spectators
00:40 <luKe-jr> ah
00:41 <wrtlprnft> which basically means that they won't get assigned to a team
00:41 <wrtlprnft> and therefore don't spawn
00:41 <luKe-jr> but it does count toward MAX_PLAYERS?
00:41 <wrtlprnft> old clients just sent 0 players
00:41  * z-man missed whatever wrtl is doing, but it sounds cool
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #cfg MAX_PLAYERS
00:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: MAX_PLAYERS_SAME_IP: maximum number of players from the same IP (note that each client can legally host up to four players) (default: 4) || SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team in single player mode (default: 10) || TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team (default: 10)
00:41 <luKe-jr> z-man: PHP Arma client
00:41 <z-man> for recording?
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores crazy
00:42 <luKe-jr> z-man: right now it reads scores and chats
00:42 <wrtlprnft> z-man: not really, at least not yet
00:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: TEAMS: Blue BrainEaters (48), Gold FleshBiters (42) PLAYERS: morzilla (8) (Blue BrainEaters), [FKL]-Pyr0TeK (6) (Gold FleshBiters), ø~ (6) (Blue BrainEaters), Shock1217 (2) (Blue BrainEaters), loganherr (2) (Blue BrainEaters), ß|AoS| (2) (Gold FleshBiters), Hot N Trashy 4u (0) (Gold FleshBiters), eb (0) (Blue BrainEaters), robert (0) (Gold FleshBiters)
00:42 <wrtlprnft> but there's some crude management of nNetObjects and stuff
00:42 <luKe-jr> I had no idea the network protocol was so simple :x
00:42 <z-man> For the player emulation, yeah, you need that.
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00:43 <wrtlprnft> i even managed to create a ePlayerNetID and send a chat message :)
00:43 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18160&highlight=
00:43 <wrtlprnft> that question at the end might be for you
00:43 <madmax> hmm, I think it has something to do with the site's (invalid) certificate. other https sites seem to work
00:43 <luKe-jr> madmax: well, that's a problem with automating SSL anyhow
00:43 <luKe-jr> madmax: SSL requires human interaction to approve certs
00:44 <luKe-jr> otherwise it's not overly useful
00:44 <madmax> yeah, i think that's exactly it
00:44 <z-man> Have you tried chatspamming servers with your bot already?
00:44 <luKe-jr> lol
00:44 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: does armabot implement the chat?
00:44 <luKe-jr> #help serverscores
00:44 <armabot> luKe-jr: (serverscores <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/scores.php?name=[urlquote $*]]".
00:44 <z-man> I think you may succeed, chat spam probably is handled on a per-ePlayerNetID basis
00:45 <wrtlprnft> it already works
00:45 <luKe-jr> XD
00:45 <wrtlprnft> i can print everything other players say
00:45 <wrtlprnft> and send my own chat lines
00:45 <wrtlprnft> one of the early prototypes actually was a real bot
00:45 <wrtlprnft> it would reply to #ping ;)
00:46 <wrtlprnft> at least it works on new servers. never tried the really old ones
00:46 <z-man> The protocol hasn't changed a bit for what you are doing.
00:46 <wrtlprnft> ah, nice
00:47 <wrtlprnft> i guess my player won't be a spectator on old serves, though
00:47 <madmax> just hope people who usually spam a lot don't make their bot using that. because humans eventually get tired, but bots...
00:47 <z-man> True.
00:47 <wrtlprnft> but the current sample code connects immediately after sending its message
00:47  * wrtlprnft hopes the people who usually spam a lot won't be smart enough ;)
00:47 <z-man> Drive by spam :)
00:48 <wrtlprnft> still wondering how much it would annoy people if i implement a #later tell system
00:49 <wrtlprnft> you know, leave your message in here and as soon as the player goes online on any server armabot follows and delivers the message
00:49 <madmax> you could ask server admins if they'd be willing to allow that
00:50 <wrtlprnft> i'd rather have them ban me if they don't want it. My primary concern is users
00:51 <wrtlprnft> people like z-man who probably don't want to be asked tons of questions as soon as the want to play their own game
00:52 <z-man> Besides, I'm usually more here than on an arma server :)
00:52  * z-man already gets performance draining bubble messages even in fullscreen mode whenever he gets pinged here
00:52 <wrtlprnft> that's not true for everyone
00:53 <wrtlprnft> just think of how useful it would be for organizing tournaments
00:53 <z-man> SP people get your ass on Dubass Fortress!!!!!
00:53 <wrtlprnft> lol
00:53 <wrtlprnft> maybe not clans, rather those loose teams
00:55 <z-man> I did not pick SP randomly.
00:56 <z-man> Whenever there was a delay because of missing members, SP was around.
00:57 <wrtlprnft> or for people who are late to a match but the server was changed
00:58 <wrtlprnft> anyways, good night
00:58 <z-man> night
01:02 <luKe-jr> \lol z-man
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01:48 <beta|AoS|> "< wrtlprnft> still wondering how much it would annoy people if i implement a #later tell system" <= I don't think that it will matter. There is a lot of spam already. But your bot is a good idea. For the #later, but it could also be interesting for automatic admin.
01:48 <beta|AoS|> Just a though.
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07:12 <luKe-jr> #last --from luKe-jr --with guru3
07:12 <armabot> luKe-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 461 messages.
07:12 <luKe-jr> :x
07:13 <luKe-jr> spidey_: [19:40:34] <luke-jr> guru3: fyi http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2007/05/03/dreamhost-sucks-at-hosting/
07:13 <MrBougo> eh, 461 only?
07:13 <MrBougo> stop resetting, armabot!
07:13 <MrBougo> #last --from luKe-jr --with guru3
07:13 <armabot> MrBougo: [07:16:28] <luKe-jr> spidey_: [19:40:34] <luke-jr> guru3: fyi http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2007/05/03/dreamhost-sucks-at-hosting/
07:13 <luKe-jr> MrBougo: civ?
07:13 <MrBougo> nope
07:13 <MrBougo> i cant play civ
07:13 <MrBougo> and i'm coding for nexuiz
07:13 <MrBougo> srsly
07:13  * MrBougo runs away
07:14 <luKe-jr> meh
07:14 <MrBougo> seriously, i am, but nothing serious
07:14 <luKe-jr> code for Arma
07:14 <luKe-jr> -.-
07:15 <MrBougo> -.-
07:15 <MrBougo> QuakeC is easy
07:16 <luKe-jr> meh
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07:44 <spidey_> ioq3?
07:48 <MrBougo> ?
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08:10 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores High Rubber
08:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: '<br />\n<b>Fatal error</b>:  Cannot redeclare connection::onSync() in <b>/www2/serverlist/serverinfo2.php</b> on line <b>625</b><br />\n'
08:11 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores High Rubber
08:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
08:21 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores High Rubber
08:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber <: PLAYERS: H2H|Psy-TraXx (9), En[e]my Baby (2), Blammo (0), Shwam (0)
08:21 <wrtlprnft> should be faster now
08:23 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
08:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: No online players
08:23 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores apture the
08:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Sorry, I won't connect to any server outside the port range of 4534–4540.
08:24 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores apture fortress
08:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “apture fortress” at the moment, sorry.
08:24 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores fortress
08:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: TEAMS: The_Blues_Brothers (42), The_Jaded_Monkeys (1) PLAYERS: SLUGG (4) (The_Blues_Brothers), Aanntt (0) (The_Jaded_Monkeys)
08:24 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores fortress
08:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: TEAMS (2): The_Blues_Brothers (69), The_Jaded_Monkeys (3) PLAYERS (2): SLUGG (4) (The_Blues_Brothers), Aanntt (0) (The_Jaded_Monkeys)
08:27 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7514 /private/wrtlprnft/serverinfo.php: Implemented querying the server if we are synced to cut down on needless waiting time. Thanks z-man for telling me how :-)
08:30 <luKe-jr> .
08:32 <wrtlprnft> ?
08:33 <luKe-jr> !
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08:41  * beta|AoS| salutes deja_vu 
08:43 <deja_vu> :O
08:43 <deja_vu> hey beta|AoS| :)
08:55 <beta|AoS|> hey me !
08:56 <beta|AoS|>  #lastseen ota
08:56 <beta|AoS|> #ls ota
08:56 <beta|AoS|> ><
08:57 <armabot> beta|AoS|: timed out
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09:59 <luKe-jr> #last
09:59 <armabot> luKe-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 273 messages.
09:59 <philippeqc> hi luke
09:59 <luKe-jr> hi philippeqc
10:00 <philippeqc> how are you
10:00 <luKe-jr> doing good
10:00 <philippeqc> good to hear
10:01 <philippeqc> i fixed the darn "on mouse over, raise window"
10:01 <philippeqc> it wasnt compiz, it was gnome that had that setting.
10:01 <luKe-jr> heh
10:01 <luKe-jr> GNOME sucks :0
10:01  * philippeqc doesnt do window manager war
10:02 <luKe-jr> KDE4 sucks too :þ
10:02 <luKe-jr> how goes the zonesv2?
10:02 <philippeqc> better i hope
10:02 <philippeqc> but i had a vision
10:02 <luKe-jr> any sign of backward compat?
10:02 <philippeqc> Hahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahaha
10:02 <philippeqc> no
10:02 <luKe-jr> ☺
10:03 <philippeqc> any sign of zone v2 working by itself? Well, there are chance to come to that in a near future
10:03 <philippeqc> the "update" mechanism need to be majorly reworked
10:04 <luKe-jr> hm
10:04 <luKe-jr> spidey_: turn done
10:04 <philippeqc> there is so much data flying around, it could fry the network
10:04 <luKe-jr> uhoh
10:04 <luKe-jr> fry teh intarweb⁈
10:05 <philippeqc> yeah, clog all them tubes
10:05 <luKe-jr> poor sink!
10:06 <philippeqc> i wanna be a e-plumber, walk around in my low-cut work pants, bend under people desk and show my ass crack and say... "hummm, them computer tubes are broken"
10:07 <philippeqc> well, anyway, i was saying that i had a vision.
10:07 <philippeqc> there is little chance that zone v2 will be all that people want.
10:08 <luKe-jr> …
10:08 <philippeqc> so i though that zone and shape should be accessible from Ruby
10:08 <philippeqc> (a zone is the meta object, it can have one or more shape)
10:08  * luKe-jr notes we already have scriptable zones :þ
10:09 <philippeqc> HOW?
10:09 <luKe-jr> Crazy Tronners made a patch
10:09 <philippeqc> in trunk?
10:09 <luKe-jr> no
10:09 <luKe-jr> trunk is v2
10:09 <philippeqc> o
10:09 <philippeqc> they arent exclusive
10:09 <luKe-jr> on the code side?
10:10 <philippeqc> zone v1 and zone v2 are, but the logic to affect a zonev2 could come from the zonev2 format, or from external script
10:12 <luKe-jr> yeah
10:12 <luKe-jr> but the patch will need to be rewrit
10:13 <philippeqc> probably
10:13 <philippeqc> but I'm thinking that the logic of zone v2 should be rewritten anyway
10:13 <philippeqc> into Ruby
10:13 <luKe-jr> …
10:13 <philippeqc> that type of logic shouldnt be IN the engine, but out
10:13 <luKe-jr> Ruby is an optional dependency
10:13 <luKe-jr> I hope it stays that way
10:14 <luKe-jr> we have vValues
10:14 <philippeqc> so will be crazy fortress and moving zones and stuff
10:15 <philippeqc> could you make a soccer ball with vValues?
10:15 <luKe-jr> today? probably not
10:15 <philippeqc> I'm quite sure it would be an easy script to do
10:15 <philippeqc> in Ruby
10:16 <luKe-jr> that makes Ruby required
10:16 <philippeqc> server side, IF you want a soccer ball
10:17 <luKe-jr> and prediction?
10:17 <philippeqc> for that, I had to home brew a tPolynomial
10:18 <philippeqc> not saying it should replace a vValue, just that i needed many extra mecanism, and it was easier to do it that way
10:19 <luKe-jr> sounds like duplication of the same thing? O.o
10:20 <philippeqc> might be
10:20 <philippeqc> but as i started, i didnt know all that it needed to do, so it was convenient.
10:21 <luKe-jr> that's why vValue is easily extended :þ
10:21 <philippeqc> but i do not say it is the right final answer
10:21 <luKe-jr> hum
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12:13 <wrtlprnft> I still prefer the Io stuff
12:14 <wrtlprnft> and apparently z-man is still working on it occasionally, so we might get something useful out of it one day
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12:33 <wrtlprnft> #later tell wrtlprnft_ test
12:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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12:59 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7515 /private/wrtlprnft/serverinfo.php: Read the options and URI field when querying a server, if availabe.
13:07 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7516 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Changed influenceSlide from REAL to tPolynomial. Beautified code.
13:07 <armabot> pld: qboosh * SPECS/armagetronad.spec: - don't try to hide used macro defs
13:09 <guru3> Lucifer_bed: i hope you're happy now
13:13 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7517 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/tPolynomial.h: Len can safely be called on const objects
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16:03  * madmax is surprised that someone would choose the name rectum as their nick
16:11 <madmax> is it just me or the topics/posts count on the AA forums are in hexadecimal?
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19:38 <xfroggy> lol madmax I noticed that also today :D
19:42 <epsy> hey
19:46 <epsy> #tea
19:46 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): |x| Sticky, <~luAp~>, alf ñ SIGSEGV, Endless, gArIsImo, goldgorilla, hoop, Lord of Bic, madmax, Pi|AoS|, punk_boy x_0, Puuquie, ß|AoS|, TeX, ~|DS|~ Judders, °°AshitakA
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19:48 <libervisco> Nobody is showing up?
19:48 <xfroggy> for?
19:48 <epsy> relax, iT4s in  minutes
19:48 <epsy> 5*
19:48 <epsy> :P
19:48 <xfroggy> whats happening? Oo
19:48 <libervisco> Yeah and nobody is on the server
19:49 <libervisco> xfroggy, http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com/content/armagetron-advanced-tournament
19:49 <libervisco> First match
19:49 <epsy> i'm against rubber players :S
19:49 <xfroggy> ooh
19:49 <epsy> i mean lms
19:49 <xfroggy> what kind of settings?
19:49 <libervisco> Well rubber is low for now
19:49 <libervisco> We'll see when they join if they're fine with it
19:50 <epsy> uhm
19:50 <epsy> what's the server name ?
19:50 <epsy> o
19:50 <epsy> ok
19:50 <libervisco> Freedomware Gamefest EU
19:50 <xfroggy> i found it
19:51 <xfroggy> eww rubber
19:51 <xfroggy> :|
19:52 <libervisco> Well it's only 5
19:52 <epsy> he meant rubber as 'lms'
19:52 <libervisco> Anyone seen goodkoen?
19:53 <madmax> #lastseen goodkoen
19:53 <libervisco> What does it have to do with it?
19:53 <libervisco> You can play LMS on rubber 0
19:53 <armabot> madmax: Goodkoen has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 6 days 9 hours 1 minute ago.
19:54 <madmax> libervisco: who needs to be playing ATM?
19:55 <libervisco> goodkoen, freezombie and epsy
19:55 <xfroggy> whats lms?
19:55 <libervisco> #lastseen freezombie
19:55 <libervisco> #lastseen free-zombie
19:55 <epsy> libervisco, well 95% of players calls LMS rubber
19:55 <armabot> libervisco: timed out
19:55 <xfroggy> ah
19:55 <xfroggy> ya
19:55 <xfroggy> what madmax said ^^
19:55 <armabot> libervisco: timed out
19:57 <libervisco> Well those who don't show up tonight get one chance of reschedule, next time forfeited.. so if only two people show up next time, they'll fight for win, if only one shows up he wins instantly
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20:09 <epsy> libervisco, so what?
20:09 <epsy> we re-schedule this game or not ?
20:12 <libervisco> apparently yes..
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20:30 <xfroggy> no one showed up I'm guessing?
20:30 <libervisco> Just epsy
20:30 <epsy> hrhr
20:30 <xfroggy> epsy just lives here
20:30 <xfroggy> :D
20:30 <libervisco> :)
20:30 <ct|kyle> epusssy that is
20:30 <libervisco> Well they'll get one more chance.. in the mean time I'll tweak the server a bit, per some epsy's advice ;)
20:31 <ct|kyle> #aka epsy
20:31 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2 |x|frenchellent epu|x|y epsybic epsy pep|x|i epsy|x| g4 |x|epsy:eplayer |x|player_1_2.o
20:31 <xfroggy> lol I could of guessed group 1 not gonna show up lo
20:31 <xfroggy> except epsy ^^
20:31 <epsy> xfroggy, d3 ? :S
20:32 <xfroggy> leaving in a moment to the store :'(
20:32 <epsy> bff
20:32 <epsy> xD
20:32 <madmax> #help aka
20:32 <armabot> madmax: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
20:32 <xfroggy> :|
20:32 <madmax> hmm
20:32 <madmax> #aka madmax
20:32 <armabot> madmax: ¿1135 smurf_#186 the_real_flash madmax jazzysoundbits
20:32 <madmax> holy crap
20:32 <xfroggy> lol
20:32 <madmax> it's a desmurf mechanism!!
20:32 <xfroggy> #aka ".:] ~ X ~"
20:32 <madmax> damnit.
20:32 <armabot> xfroggy: ¿2325 *[*mr.color*]* *[mr *[*]* *[**potato**]* *[*mr.potato*] *[*mr.potato*]* .:]_~_xma$_~ .:]_~_fox_~ ct|kyle_:d say_my_name_ct| .:]_~_x_~
20:33 <xfroggy> who the hell is mr potato I still don't know...
20:33 <epsy> madmax, yes :)
20:33 <xfroggy> #lastseen potato
20:33 <armabot> xfroggy: Baked Potato has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= 12 minutes ago.
20:33 <madmax> it sucks. kill it
20:33 <xfroggy> lol ^
20:33 <xfroggy> now we know who the real flash is >:D
20:34 <ct|kyle> xfroggy: are you the real flash?
20:34 <epsy> #aka freako
20:34 <epsy> #aka .:] flash
20:34 <epsy> haha
20:34 <armabot> epsy: ¿3852 cc_dishwasher depleted defrfztacaheavo heavoc tarrot freako
20:34 <armabot> epsy: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
20:34 <epsy> #aka ".:] flash"
20:34 <xfroggy> lol
20:35 <armabot> epsy: ¿3220 .:]_flash2 .:]_flashy .:]_flash
20:35 <epsy> hrhr
20:35 <xfroggy> #aka "epsy"
20:35 <armabot> xfroggy: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2 |x|frenchellent epu|x|y epsybic epsy pep|x|i epsy|x| g4 |x|epsy:eplayer |x|player_1_2.o
20:35 <libervisco> ok, SCORE_KILL 3 and SCORE_SUICIDE -3 Good? :)
20:35 <xfroggy> I think you win epsy lol
20:35 <epsy> yes
20:35 <xfroggy> the biggest smurf
20:35 <madmax> does that ratings thing store IPs?
20:36 <epsy> no
20:36 <epsy> renames
20:36 <epsy> xfroggy, at least i do not hide
20:36 <xfroggy> lol ya
20:36 <epsy> like 95% of smurfs
20:36 <epsy> i mean, un-like
20:36 <madmax> haha
20:39 <epsy> #sd test
20:39 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Test Server: No online players.
20:39 <epsy> hope there was no one
20:39 <epsy> *nobody
20:39 <epsy> #sd ss.s
20:39 <armabot> epsy: |x|.Fortress.Server: No online players.
20:50 <libervisco> epsy, just realized there was actually a time limit of 60 minutes :)
20:50 <libervisco> But anyway, I'll keep the new scoring
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21:48 <epsy> #servescores caf
21:48 <epsy> #serverscores caf
21:48 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: TEAMS (2): Team blue (46), Team gold (12) PLAYERS (9): ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (14) (Team blue), °°AshitakA (8) (Team blue), CtxWoned (4) (Team gold), Endless (4) (Team gold), Longball|MBC (2) (Team gold), Mips (2) (Team blue), Ram|Master (2) (Team blue), alf ñ SIGSEGV (2) (Team gold), ~*SP*~Pez (0) (Team gold)
21:48 <epsy> O.o
21:57 <beta|AoS|> #serverscores tronners
21:57 <armabot> beta|AoS|: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: TEAMS (2): Blue BrainEaters (116), Gold FleshBiters (65) PLAYERS (10): Badzilla (26) (Gold FleshBiters), Emacs (14) (Blue BrainEaters), (-.-)Rainbow (8) (Gold FleshBiters), Obi-One (8) (Gold FleshBiters), Player 1 (8) (Blue BrainEaters), SL°??? (8) (Gold FleshBiters), Sa (6) (Gold FleshBiters), Speedly Noob (6) (Blue BrainEaters), Kicer (4) (Blue BrainEaters), (1 more message)
21:58 <madmax> wrtlprnft: you could sort #serverscores output by team, to avoid repeating <team> for each player :-P
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22:09 <epsy> .aka swift
22:09 <epsy> #aka swift
22:09 <armabot> epsy: ¿4782 swift
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22:58 <ct|kyle> epsy: FPSA should be fixed if not ed is the only one
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00:30 <beta|AoS|> #later durka ping
00:30 <beta|AoS|> ><
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00:34 <beta|AoS|> #m durka ping
00:34 <armabot> beta|AoS|: The operation succeeded.
00:34 <beta|AoS|> yay
00:34 <xfroggy> lol
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02:43 <vinavil> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Competition_Hub ?
02:44 <vinavil> i don't get the point of wasting time for making waste time to others
02:45 <vinavil> i deleted the spam
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02:54 <vinavil> guru3: in the forums the replies/topics/posts counters show like 0xn instead of n. example: strategy has 60 topics and 705 posts, the forums shows it like 0x60 and 0x705. don't know if it is just me.
02:55 <xfroggy> no its not lol
02:55 <vinavil> it is not?
02:55 <xfroggy> i think they switched to hex
02:55 <vinavil> so, do you see that too n00b?
02:55 <xfroggy> i though the alcohol from last night didnt wear off when I checked them :D
02:55 <vinavil> heh
02:55 <xfroggy> i see hex also lol
02:56 <vinavil> lol
02:56 <xfroggy> i though im still drunk from last night xD
02:56 <xfroggy> makes me wonder why they changed it though :|
02:56 <vinavil> huh, you are always, hex or not
02:57 <xfroggy> O.o ?
02:58 <vinavil> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18162
02:58 <vinavil> readi it right now
02:58 <xfroggy> ah ty
02:59 <luKe-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=193961
03:00 <xfroggy> lmao "happy 0x100th post"
03:37 <luKe-jr> #rating madmax
03:37 <armabot> luKe-jr: madmax is 134th with a rating of 1601-1665 (from 1150-1850)
03:37 <luKe-jr> :o
03:37 <luKe-jr> too many new players
03:37 <luKe-jr> pushing me down ☹
03:37 <luKe-jr> #rating luke-jr
03:37 <armabot> luKe-jr: luke-jr is 784th with a rating of 1484-1536 (from 1486-1535)
03:39 <ct|kyle> #rating ct_ky13
03:39 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct_ky13 is 430th with a rating of 1531-1602 (from 1533-1600)
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03:53 <beta|AoS|> #rating s|AoS|
03:53 <armabot> beta|AoS|: s|aos| is 1044th with a rating of 1453-1614 (from 1150-1850)
03:53 <beta|AoS|> ><
03:53 <beta|AoS|> rating on what ?
03:55 <ct|kyle> global
03:55 <ct|kyle> #aka s|AoS|
03:55 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿5624 konqueror s|aos|
03:55 <beta|AoS|> hm. It retrives scores from all servers ?
03:56 <beta|AoS|> #aka s
03:56 <armabot> beta|AoS|: ¿2338 s
03:56 <beta|AoS|> #aka nmap
03:56 <armabot> beta|AoS|: ¿1292 afs nmap irama
03:56 <beta|AoS|> ??
03:56 <beta|AoS|> #aka nmap|AoS|
03:56 <armabot> beta|AoS|: ¿4785 nmap|aos|
03:56 <beta|AoS|> bah
03:57 <ct|kyle> not all servers but quite a few
03:57 <ct|kyle> you should run luKe-jr's script on yours
03:58 <beta|AoS|> ok. That said if it's based on the default ladder, it doesn't mean anything on ctf :p
03:58  * beta|AoS| checks the script
04:00 <luKe-jr> .
04:00 <ct|kyle> be quite maybe he will go away
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04:00 <luKe-jr> it's not based on the ladder
04:05 <luKe-jr> beta|AoS|: how are you checking the script btw?
04:08 <beta|AoS|> Right now i'm checking if i can find it ^^
04:08 <luKe-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/download/
04:08 <beta|AoS|> thx
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04:17 <luKe-jr> beta|AoS|: how goes the check?
04:21  * beta|AoS| is confused
04:25 <beta|AoS|> Hm o i see, you have to give me a username and a pass, right ?
04:29 <beta|AoS|> Hm so it's your server that sends the files to be read ?
04:32 <ct|kyle> beta|AoS|: it sends ladder_log.txt to luKe-jr 's
04:34 <beta|AoS|> k but i need a user and a pass. (i didn't get the use for the filter though)
04:41 <luKe-jr> beta|AoS|: do you have IM?
04:41 <luKe-jr> the filter is really for servers I host-- most people don't use it
04:44  * beta|AoS| uses jabber
04:44 <luKe-jr> add me luke@dashjr.org
04:44 <beta|AoS|> Oh ok.
04:45 <beta|AoS|> done
04:45 <luKe-jr> auth me :þ
04:46 <beta|AoS|> Hm didn't i do that already ? ><
04:46  * beta|AoS| resends authorisation to
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09:44 <DrJoeTron> hey, whats with the chatlogs being available on google again :(
09:45 <luKe-jr> …
09:45 <luKe-jr> what made you think they weren't?
09:46 <MrBougo> DrJoeTron: your public privacy has been stolen, omg
09:46 <DrJoeTron> they werent for a while
09:46 <MrBougo> :(
09:47 <MrBougo> now they're back!
09:47 <DrJoeTron> yeah because people read armagetronn chatlogs
09:47 <DrJoeTron> we better post them on google
09:47 <MrBougo> soon, "luke-jr sucks" will win everything on google fight!
09:48 <MrBougo> :(
09:49 <DrJoeTron> is there a way we can remove them?
09:51 <MrBougo> sue google
09:51 <MrBougo> and get googled afterwards
09:51 <MrBougo> you can put some robots something whatever on it
09:51 <MrBougo> dunno
09:51 <MrBougo> robots.txt?
09:51 <MrBougo> or block googlez with htaccess
10:12 <DrJoeTron> ahh whatever
10:13  * luKe-jr makes his logs searchable
10:18 <DrJoeTron> why?
10:18 <luKe-jr> to annoy you
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10:19 <DrJoeTron> yeah but you're a bit of a faggot anyways
10:22 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
10:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Team gold (16): hoop (2); Team blue (12): ¦×¦ Durka (2), Bosf (0)
10:22 <DrJoeTron> heh when was that added
10:22 <wrtlprnft> #later tell madmax* happy now
10:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:22 <luKe-jr> recently
10:22 <wrtlprnft> quite recently ;)
10:22 <luKe-jr> there's a forum thread
10:22 <DrJoeTron> thats pretty neat
10:22 <luKe-jr> thank wrtlprnft for it
10:23 <wrtlprnft> the only problem is that it won't work for full servers
10:23 <DrJoeTron> haha thats kind of a problem
10:24 <luKe-jr> maybe Arma needs to allow non-users to poll scores, like it does the name?
10:24 <wrtlprnft> luKe-jr: polling the name isn't a real connection to the server
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10:25 <wrtlprnft> also it would require a totally new protocol for that sort of mini connection as the server probably can't just send its ePlayerNetIDs and eTeams over
10:25 <luKe-jr> wrtlprnft: nothing is, it's all UDP
10:25 <luKe-jr> why can't it send that stuff the same way?
10:26 <wrtlprnft> feel free to implement it
10:29 <philippeqc> "feel free to implement it" is so charged as a comment between 2 programors
10:33 <wrtlprnft> luKe-jr: you could change the part that sends the player names to include scores and teams
10:33 <wrtlprnft> but good luck in making it backwards compatible without sending tons of redundand data
10:33 <wrtlprnft> nServerInfo.cpp, search for NetReadThis and NetWriteThis, btw
10:35 <luKe-jr> :þ
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11:49 <kidanger_> #lastseen Hi
11:49 <armabot> kidanger_: shit seems to be on WILDCAT right now.
12:00 <luKe-jr> wow
12:00 <luKe-jr> turns out my ISP wasn't at fault for bad lag
12:00 <luKe-jr> but rather the software rendering :x
12:01 <spidey> go play in traffic
12:01 <luKe-jr> …
12:01 <luKe-jr> #aka hi
12:01 <armabot> luKe-jr: ¿5596 insense.izm hi insane.izm no_comment
12:01 <spidey> huh?
12:01 <luKe-jr> huh what
12:01 <luKe-jr> #aka traffic
12:02 <armabot> luKe-jr: I don't know anything about 'traffic'!
12:02 <luKe-jr> spidey: are you drunk
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12:04 <spidey> no
12:04 <spidey> i'm just bored
12:04 <luKe-jr> #aka spidey
12:04 <luKe-jr> so play some amra
12:04 <luKe-jr> arma
12:04 <armabot> luKe-jr: I don't know anything about 'spidey'!
12:05 <luKe-jr> #aka z-man
12:05 <armabot> luKe-jr: I don't know anything about 'z-man'!
12:05 <luKe-jr> zmanuel: you too
12:05 <spidey> no
12:05 <spidey> i'm arma free for months now
12:06 <luKe-jr> :þ
12:07 <spidey> plus
12:07 <spidey> i started watching xfiles again
12:07 <spidey> watched 4 episodes
12:07 <luKe-jr> …
12:07 <luKe-jr> my right monitor is screwed up :x
12:10 <DrJoeTron> spidey did you try the portal demo?
12:11 <luKe-jr> #aka Dr_Joe_Tron
12:11 <armabot> luKe-jr: ¿4135 dr_joe_tron
12:11 <luKe-jr> DrJoeTron: was that even you?
12:11 <luKe-jr> #aka DrJoeTron
12:11 <armabot> luKe-jr: I don't know anything about 'drjoetron'!
12:11 <guru3> ~
12:11 <luKe-jr> #rating dr_joe_tron
12:11 <luKe-jr> guru3: ?
12:11 <armabot> luKe-jr: dr_joe_tron is 24th with a rating of 1675-1788 (from 1676-1787)
12:11 <luKe-jr> :O
12:11 <DrJoeTron> #rating DrJoeTron
12:12 <armabot> DrJoeTron: I don't know anything about 'drjoetron'!
12:12 <guru3> wrong key
12:12 <guru3> don't mind me
12:13 <DrJoeTron> what is that even for?
12:13 <luKe-jr> DrJoeTron: …
12:13 <DrJoeTron> its for ...?
12:13 <DrJoeTron> sweet
12:13 <luKe-jr> learn to ask questions
12:13 <luKe-jr> :D
12:14 <DrJoeTron> god you are such a faggot
12:15 <DrJoeTron>  /ignore luKe-jr
12:22 <zmanuel>  /ignore Norton
12:23  * zmanuel tests Norton 360 and the installer hung 15 minutes with a completed installation bar, still doing stuff.
12:23 <zmanuel> Slugware.
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12:25 <z-man> Now it's telling me an update and virus scan will "only take a few minutes". Hah. Good thing there is a skip button.
12:28 <z-man> It doesn't block all server pings, though. odd.
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12:29 <z-man> Hmm, odd.
12:30 <z-man> It only blocked the first few connection attempts.
12:30 <epsy> what does « the first attempts » mean ?
12:31 <z-man> Well, the first connections to the master servers just failed.
12:31 <z-man> But the third or forth succeeded.
12:31 <z-man> And then, on the server browser, about half of the servers did not respond.
12:32 <z-man> On the second time, the list was pretty compiete.
12:35 <luKe-jr> wtf
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12:46 <spidey> z-man, norton is a wanna-be firewall to
12:46 <spidey> that thinks it must configure everything for you
12:47 <spidey> btw
12:47 <spidey> who in their right mind would install norton?
12:47 <spidey> z-man, you hit your head today?
12:47 <wrtlprnft> i think it's because of the forum threads about it
12:47 <spidey> ...?
12:48 <spidey> if you want a decent antivirus
12:48 <spidey> try nod32
12:48 <spidey> i think there's a linux version to
12:48 <spidey> i format enough i don't really need one xD
12:48 <spidey> all my files are hosted on my servers =D
12:49 <luKe-jr> spidey: rtff
12:49 <spidey> pft
12:49 <spidey> you rmdt
12:49 <spidey> rmft*
12:50 <spidey> and while you're at it
12:50 <spidey> cmfdo
12:51 <luKe-jr> stful
12:52 <spidey> fu
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13:20 <MrBougo> spidey: cmfdo?
13:32 <spidey> clean my fucking desktop off
13:40 <DrJoeTron> spidey
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13:47 <luKe-jr> DrJoeTron
13:47 <DrJoeTron> yeah
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14:08 <luKe-jr> #rating madmax
14:08 <armabot> luKe-jr: madmax is 142nd with a rating of 1597-1657 (from 1598-1655)
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14:59 <z-man> spidey: I know norton is crap, that's why I'm testing it. I'm perfectly happy with my linux router-type firewall and a free virus scanner.
14:59 <z-man> as wrtl said, it's because of the forum thread hinting that norton blocks our packets.
15:02 <MrBougo> hehe
15:10 <wrtlprnft> you didn't actually BUY that crap just to test it, right?
15:37 <cusco> it has a 30 day evaluation perioud
15:37 <cusco> :p
15:37 <cusco> forum thread hinting?!?!
15:51 <z-man> wrtlprnft: No, I'm not that stupid :)
15:51 <z-man> and I only installed it in an easily revertible VM.
15:52 <z-man> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18158
15:53 <z-man> The problem appears to be that it has effectively an block-all policy that it changes on a per-application basis to allow-all for outbound connections, and the process of doing that is FUCKING SLOW.
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16:06 <K-Yo> z-man, why do number of messages of forums apprear like "0x1534"
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16:13 <K-Yo> np, saw it
16:13 <K-Yo> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18162 <- for those who were like me
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16:16 <beta|AoS|>  #serverscores aos
16:17 <kidanger_> oh salut beta|AoS| :)
16:17 <K-Yo> ;)
16:17 <beta|AoS|> ><
16:17 <beta|AoS|> salut :p
16:17 <beta|AoS|> #serverscores aos
16:17 <armabot> beta|AoS|: AoS European CAPTURE THE FLAG clone: No online players
16:17 <beta|AoS|> oO
16:17 <K-Yo> on y va?
16:17 <beta|AoS|> hm
16:18 <beta|AoS|> #serverscores aos capture the flag
16:18 <armabot> beta|AoS|: AoS capture the flag: PLAYERS (1): serverscoretest (0)
16:18 <beta|AoS|> K-Yo: désolé je ne peux pas là >< j'ai du taf.
16:18 <K-Yo> héhé
16:18 <K-Yo> bon courage
16:19  * beta|AoS| est content il a mis plein de couleurs sur le serveur.  Ça ne sert à rien, mais c'est beau :p
16:19 <beta|AoS|> Merci ;)
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16:38 <epsy> Ça sert à rien mais j'ai trouvé ça joli » ^^
16:43 <wrtlprnft> beta|AoS|: armabot won't recognize commands starting with <space>#
16:45  * epsy found a bug in intercept_commands
16:45 <wrtlprnft> did you find a fix, too?
16:45 <epsy> let's say you set INTERCEPT_COMMANDS /xer
16:45 <epsy> and say er
16:45 <epsy> strpos wont return -1 and it'ill be considered as command
16:45 <epsy> basically, i have an easy hacky fix
16:46 <wrtlprnft> wow, who programmed that?
16:46 <epsy> luke-jr ^^
16:46 <epsy> just prefix the list with a space and « command » as well
16:47 <wrtlprnft> well, not er, right
16:47 <wrtlprnft> but /er
16:47 <epsy> the list's name is se_interceptCommands
16:47 <wrtlprnft> i know
16:47  * wrtlprnft knows where to look for stuff
16:47 <epsy> wrtlprnft, er yes
16:48 <wrtlprnft> stop those puns
16:48 <epsy> i just tweaked it to take anything as command :P
16:48 <epsy> nah
16:49 <epsy> i's only reproducible with my tweak
16:49 <epsy> nvm
16:50 <wrtlprnft> well, if INTERCEPT_COMMANDS is /a/b, both /a and /b will be treated as commands
16:50 <epsy> there's that, too
16:50 <wrtlprnft> basically the restriction is that command names can't contain slashes or spaces
16:51 <epsy> er, what's the concat operator already ?
16:51 <epsy> at least with tStrings :o
16:51 <z-man> ZOMG. If you rearrange Norton just a bit, you get
16:51 <z-man> NO TRON!
16:51 <z-man> coincidence? I think not.
16:53 <epsy> tStringA << tStringB ?
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17:18 <MrBougo> harhar z-man
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17:27 <beta|AoS|> wrtlprnft: yeah i figured that. I didn't know there was a space before the # otherwise i wouldn't put one. It was just a bad copy/paste.
17:27 <beta|AoS|> "< epsy> Ça sert à rien mais j'ai trouvé ça joli » ^^" <= Merci ;) Ça va peut être faire geek, mais j'ai même fait un script en perl pour faire les couleurs -_-"
17:28 <epsy> quelles couleurs ?
17:29 <beta|AoS|> Les couleurs du serveur (Le titre, le SERVER_INFO et le premier truc que tu vois quand tu te connectes)
17:29 <beta|AoS|> Ce n'est pas de ça que tu parlais ? Oo
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17:30 <epsy> c t une citation :P
17:30 <MrBougo> mdrmdrmdr
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17:31 <beta|AoS|> ><
17:31 <epsy> MrBougo, koi? tu connais ? xD
17:31 <beta|AoS|> #serverstat wild forter
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17:32 <MrBougo> epsy: non
17:32 <MrBougo> mais beta|AoS| l'a vachement mal interprété
17:32 <epsy> #armaservers
17:32 <armabot> epsy: This data is 71 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Norm's Place (11/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (10/16), WILDCAT (8/8), SPACEZONE III (6/15), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), GreenZone|gZ Clan Server (5/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), Rapid ~\auc/~ Clan Loose Server (4/6), Midnight Express (4/12), SPACEZONE I (1 more message)
17:32 <epsy> hrhr
17:32 <beta|AoS|> #serverscores wild forter
17:32 <armabot> beta|AoS|: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “wild forter” at the moment, sorry.
17:32 <beta|AoS|> #serverscores  Wild Fortress
17:32 <armabot> beta|AoS|: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Blue BrainEaters (174): alf ñ SIGSEGV (24), ULTRA (20), 14th (12), Tom (8), |SPZ|BULLET)> (8), 808 STATE (4); Gold FleshBiters (85): ~*Sasha*~ (14), womble (6), [SnypEr]Gregz (3), Anatole (2), M4d-Dri4d (0), nuds? (0), wood bird (0)
17:32 <epsy> pff
17:33 <kidanger> #serverscores Capture
17:33 <armabot> kidanger: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Sorry, I won't connect to any server outside the port range of 4534–4540.
17:33 <beta|AoS|> ><
17:33 <kidanger> arf
17:34 <epsy> lol
17:36 <K-Yo> Frenchellent!
17:36 <epsy> #armaconfig name
17:36 <armabot> epsy: ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR: Allow a team to be named after a color (default: 1) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_LEADER: Set to 1 to allow team leader to set a team, 0 otherwise. (default: 0) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_PLAYER: Allow a team to be named after the leading player (default: 1) || BOOKMARK_0_NAME: Name of the 1st server bookmark (default: ) || BOOKMARK_10_NAME: Name of the 11th server bookmark (default: ) || (6 more messages)
17:36 <epsy> ..
17:36 <epsy> that's client stuff
17:36 <beta|AoS|> Indeed!
17:37 <epsy> FuckTheFuckingFuckers!
17:38 <K-Yo> InFuckingcredible!
17:38 <epsy> :D
17:38 <K-Yo> ><
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17:39 <K-Yo> .si -v tea
17:39 <K-Yo> .si -v café
17:39 <K-Yo> haha
17:40 <epsy> lol
17:40 <epsy> wrong bot
17:40 <epsy> wrong command
17:40 <K-Yo> #ss -v café
17:40 <epsy> wrong server name
17:40 <K-Yo> :D
17:40 <armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “-v caf” at the moment, sorry.
17:40 <K-Yo> wrong life XD
17:40 <epsy> #ss café
17:40 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players
17:40 <K-Yo> no it's ok, i needed ip ;)
17:42 <epsy> what for ?
17:45 <K-Yo> bookmarks
17:45 <K-Yo> d'ailleur tu sais où il ssont sur le DD?
17:45 <K-Yo> pke je voudrait copier/coller code couleur pourle nom des bookmarks
17:46 <epsy> B marche pas ?
17:46 <epsy> btw, how do you set a team's name etc ?
17:47 <K-Yo> B?
17:47 <epsy> va ds la liste des serveurs
17:47 <epsy> selectionne un serveur
17:47 <epsy> appuie sur B
17:47 <K-Yo> ah je savais pas
17:48 <epsy> ben ué c des nazis de l'interface quoi
17:48 <epsy> xDD
17:49 <K-Yo> lol
17:49 <K-Yo> et sinon, tu peux pas metter de couleur dans les bookmarks?
17:49 <K-Yo> c nul :(
17:50 <epsy> si tu edites l'entrée manuellement si
17:50 <epsy> c filtré
17:50 <K-Yo> ah et elle est où?
17:50 <epsy> #armaconfig bookmark
17:50 <armabot> epsy: BOOKMARK_0_ADDRESS: Server adress of the 1st server bookmark (default: ) || BOOKMARK_0_NAME: Name of the 1st server bookmark (default: ) || BOOKMARK_0_PORT: Server port of the 1st server bookmark (default: 4534) || BOOKMARK_10_ADDRESS: Server adress of the 11th server bookmark (default: ) || BOOKMARK_10_NAME: Name of the 11th server bookmark (default: ) || BOOKMARK_10_PORT: Server port of the (5 more messages)
17:50 <K-Yo> okii
17:51 <K-Yo> je vais faire un ptit include je le sens ;)
17:52 <epsy> j'en fais ttes les 2 minutes ;P
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18:01  * z-man wonders whether he should make our installer detect and kill Norton.
18:01 <K-Yo> z-man
18:01 <K-Yo> is there a reason that bookmarks don't remember colors?
18:02 <z-man> Yes, the edit boxes get confused when they're confronted with too many color codes.
18:10 <wrtlprnft> z-man: do you just mean the shrinking or is there another kind of confusion?
18:11 <z-man> I mean the shrinking.
18:11 <z-man> and no, I don't want that fixed :)
18:11 <wrtlprnft> heh
18:12 <wrtlprnft> i think it *is* fixed in the trunk :P
18:13 <wrtlprnft> sorry for that, but i had to reimplement the shrinking due to the non-proportional font
18:16 <beta|AoS|> "< epsy> btw, how do you set a team's name etc ?" <= TEAM_NAME_x, ∀x∈[1;8] ?
18:17 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it is fixed in the trunk
18:18 <wrtlprnft> beta|AoS|: not quite correct :D
18:18 <wrtlprnft> there's no TEAM_NAME_3.141
18:19 <wrtlprnft> it should say x∈[1,8]⋂N
18:27 <beta|AoS|> Indeed! But i don't have the appropriate braket string ><
18:27 <beta|AoS|> TEAM_NAME_n, ∀n∈|[1;8]|
18:27 <beta|AoS|> ><
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18:29 <vinavil> epsy: can you help me?
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18:30 <beta|AoS|> I'm willing to help you if you have any money.
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18:31  * vinavil laughs
18:32 <epsy> vinavil, ?
18:32 <beta|AoS|> Damn ressession. Nobody is willing to pay anymore.
18:32  * epsy is free
18:33 <vinavil> epsy: would it be hard to make fts run another map+settings from 0 to 3 players?
18:33 <epsy> ah that
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18:33 <epsy> i'ill do it in the week
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18:35 <vinavil> epsy: thank you
18:35 <madmax> vinavil: is there a way to avoid people from using the minimap in 0.3?
18:35 <madmax> vinavil: about the incam thing
18:35 <vinavil> there is aforbid command
18:35 <vinavil> but, i think we'll do like last time max
18:35 <vinavil> qno forbidding at all
18:36 <vinavil> no*
18:36 <vinavil> and hoping in players' honour :)
18:42 <K-Yo> .cters
18:42 <K-Yo> oops
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18:55 <madmax> vinavil: wasn't there last time so...
18:55 <epsy> wrtlprnft, there are no individual scores on x fort
18:56 <vinavil> epsy: the code is in common, i think
18:56 <vinavil> madmax: no, last time there were no forbid
18:56 <vinavil> there were only in first and second IFC
18:56 <vinavil> but not in third
18:56 <madmax> ok
18:57 <epsy> vinavil, i know
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18:57 <madmax> yay, Metallica in Portugal (again)
18:57 <vinavil> lol
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18:58 <madmax> hopefully they'll show something of the new album :-D
19:02  * beta|AoS| doesn't like St Anger and doesn't want to hear the new one :/
19:04 <madmax> no one liked it :P
19:04 <madmax> but they said it'll be like some of their early albums
19:07  * K-Yo like more Barbie Girl (Aqua) ><
19:09  * beta|AoS| stopped the time after ride the lightning and the black album.
19:12 <beta|AoS|> He's a K-Yo guy, in a K-Yo world. Life in tronnic, it's fantastic.
19:13 <beta|AoS|> You can ride my bike, box me everywhere. Imagination, play's your creation.
19:14 <K-Yo> :D
19:14 <K-Yo> you can turn, you can play, do whatever you please
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19:15 <libervisco> MaZuffeR, Hi, seen zion and Lackadaisical?
19:15 <MaZuffeR> no, i haven't
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19:25 <libervisco> hi Lackadaisical
19:26 <libervisco> #last seen zion
19:26 <armabot> libervisco: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
19:26 <Lackadaisical> hi
19:26 <libervisco> #seen zion
19:26 <armabot> libervisco: I have not seen zion.
19:27 <libervisco> MaZuffeR, Lackadaisical the server is "Freedomware Gamefest EU server" in list
19:27 <MaZuffeR> ok
19:30 <madmax> #lastseen zion
19:30 <armabot> madmax: ~|DS|~zion has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 hours 24 minutes ago.
19:30 <vinavil> what is it about?
19:30 <madmax> libervisco: #lastseen is ingame, #seen is on this channel
19:31 <libervisco> oh
19:31 <libervisco> A gamefest AA match
19:31 <libervisco> http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com/content/armagetron-advanced-tournament
19:31 <Lackadaisical> what happens if zion doesnt show up?
19:32 <libervisco> reschedule, but only once
19:35 <libervisco> madmax, can it be seen where is he right now if anywhere in game?
19:36 <libervisco> hmm actually..
19:37 <vinavil> i can try with skype
19:39 <vinavil> he's not online
19:39 <vinavil> his nick is bgsdeluxe
19:40 <libervisco> #lastseen bgsdeluxe
19:40 <armabot> libervisco: timed out
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19:55 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
19:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Team blue (74): Luzifer (14), Aion (10), orly? (8), |x|Dimbiman (6), Dez (2), K alf ñ (2), ¦×¦epsy (2); Team gold (32): ~|DS|~ jazzy (6), Ram|Master (4), Ram|hoop (4), Sithy (4), modulations (4), Shock1217 (0), ¦×¦ FoFo (0), ¦×¦ Hoax (0)
19:56 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
19:59 <madmax> libervisco: #lastseen covers that
20:00 <Lackadaisical> #lastseen zion
20:00 <armabot> Lackadaisical: ~|DS|~zion has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 hours 54 minutes ago.
20:00 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the no-individual scores thing
20:00 <epsy> from FTS
20:00 <epsy> i get it on X serv too
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20:19 <Lackadaisical> libervisco: are we still going to play? i was kicked btw because of a map failure
20:19 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i don't get it
20:20 <wrtlprnft> oh, did you hack the source
20:20 <wrtlprnft> i told you not to hack the logic too much x_X
20:20 <libervisco> Lackadaisical, it works now, tough map.. but with him not showing up we should reschedule unfortunately :S
20:20 <libervisco> next time if he does that it's a forfeit
20:21 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ok, it just uses café's binary now
20:21 <wrtlprnft> you need to reset the settings
20:22 <wrtlprnft> feel free to make them permanent btw
20:28 <Lackadaisical> wrtl stop talking to epsy
20:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i only hacked the intercept command stuff
20:31  * wrtlprnft stfu
20:32 <wrtlprnft> tell me when i'm allowed to talk to him agaun
20:32 <wrtlprnft> *again
20:34 <Lackadaisical> idk
20:35 <Lackadaisical> wait he's on the other team, so yes you can
20:37 <epsy> wrtlprnft, anyhow, that hack wasn't very important
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22:58 <epsy> #lastseen sticky
22:58 <armabot> epsy: |x| Sticky has last been seen on Bugfarm Fortress clone -KEEP OUT CT VS X 2 minutes ago.
22:58 <StickyNoob> yo
22:58 <StickyNoob> why you asking?
23:00 <StickyNoob> epsy: ping
23:00 <epsy> go x fort
23:00 <StickyNoob> ok
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01:45 <madmax> #aka madmax
01:45 <armabot> madmax: ¿5573 madmax2 vim madmax
01:45 <madmax> hmm, good. he forgot the other ones
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03:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: epsy's "bug" doesn't exist in the Svn INTERCEPT_COMMANDS I think
03:42 <luke-jr> o, guess he figured that out
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06:01 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
06:01 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 800th with a rating of 1489-1534 (from 1494-1541)
06:01 <luke-jr> :X
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07:22 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: as i said, it does if your commands contain slashes
07:23 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: commands don't contain slashes ;)
07:23 <wrtlprnft> something like "/a /foo/bar /b" will match /a, /b, /foo, /bar, and /foobar
07:23 <wrtlprnft> err, /foo/bar i mean
07:23 <luke-jr> it should
07:23 <luke-jr> /a/foo/bar/b is the same thing
07:24 <wrtlprnft> except that it also matches /a/foo/bar/b
07:24 <luke-jr> the space requirement is merely to make it look nicer and so we can break non-space functionality in the future :þ
07:24 <luke-jr> true
07:25 <luke-jr> so perhaps it should only work if the cmd has no / in it
07:25 <luke-jr> which no cmd should
07:25 <luke-jr> anyway, details like that I don't care about; change it if you like, but it's considered undefined behaviour right now :þ
07:26 <wrtlprnft> I'd keep the spaces a requirement
07:26 <luke-jr> sure
07:26 <wrtlprnft> and i'd just check if the command is at the first position of the list or if the character before the command in the list is a space
07:27 <wrtlprnft> err, but won't "/foobarbazbar" also match /foo?
07:27 <luke-jr> wasted CPU time for something that is not likely to occur and, if it does, can be handled better by the idiot using / in commands ;)
07:27 <luke-jr> hm
07:27 <luke-jr> good point ☺
07:27 <luke-jr> but that might be a good thing too, not sure
07:28 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: CPU time is not really that much of a concern here
07:29 <wrtlprnft> that would be like tuining the gas milage of a hummer by turning the radio down
07:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: no, it's not really a concern, but neither should blocking invalid commands like that ;p
07:32 <luke-jr> as long as admins don't use silly things like /foo/bar as a command, it's not an issue
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08:05 <luke-jr> hi z-man
08:05 <luke-jr> any reason nSocket or whatever has a noop Connect method? :þ
08:06 <z-man> Sure :) Because there is an OS connect() method.
08:06 <z-man> but it does not do anything for UDP sockets.
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08:14 <luke-jr> z-man: so nSocket isn't usable for TCP?
08:16 <luke-jr> I'm thinking about finally trying to do a XMPP implementation for Arma; anyone care to voice comments before I start? :þ
08:16 <luke-jr> in particular:
08:17 <luke-jr> - should I work in 0.2.8 or trunk? I'm leaning toward 0.2.8 and port to trunk later
08:17 <luke-jr> - any opinions on iksemel vs gloox? neither have any required dependencies (just optional ones for things like TLS support)
08:18 <luke-jr> iksemel is C, while gloox is C++
08:22 <luke-jr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.3M Jan 14 01:25 /usr/portage/packages/All/gloox-0.9.8.tbz2
08:22 <luke-jr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  90K Jul  2  2007 /usr/portage/packages/All/iksemel-1.2.tbz2
08:22 <luke-jr> :o
08:28 <z-man> Not on 0.2.8, please. is supposed to be the final release there.
08:28 <z-man> merging changes back to the trunk is hell already.
08:29 <z-man> Think of the nSocket::Connect() method as a stub to be filled as soon as they are made ready for TCP :)
08:30 <luke-jr> i c
08:30 <luke-jr> z-man: How can be the final release there when 0.4/1.0 is so far off?
08:30 <z-man> Well, the final release with new features.
08:31 <z-man> Bug/security fix releases should never be ruled out.
08:31 <luke-jr> even if I write for trunk, though, I would want to backport to 0.2.8 codebase-- people aren't going to stop using it anytime soon :x
08:32 <luke-jr> hm, iksemel seems to mostly be a XMPP-enhanced XML parser
08:32 <luke-jr> but we already have an XML parser… :x
08:32 <z-man> You're free to do so with a patch, of course, but keep it out of SVN.
08:33 <luke-jr> you mean out of branches/0.2.8 or out of Svn altogether?
08:33 <z-man> out of 0.2.8.
08:33 <luke-jr> I was thinking private/luke-jr or branches/0.2.8-xmpp or such
08:33 <z-man> That would be fine.
08:34 <z-man> both of them.
08:34 <luke-jr> ok
08:35 <luke-jr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.6M Nov 17 22:11 /usr/portage/packages/All/libxml2-2.6.30.tbz2
08:35 <luke-jr> maybe if iksemel works out well, we can get rid of libxml2 ;)
08:35 <luke-jr> they both seem to be SAX, so it shouldn't be too difficult
08:36 <luke-jr> (libxml2 itself isn't ideal for XMPP, because it lacks the nicities like TLS/SASL)
08:38 <z-man> iksemel does in 70K what libxml needs 1.6M for?
08:40 <luke-jr> looks like it
08:40 <luke-jr> although
08:40 <luke-jr> iksemel probably doesn't have the HTTP thing
08:40 <luke-jr> CURL is 519 KB :þ
08:41 <luke-jr> is it just me, or do we forget to close everytime.cfg?
08:45 <z-man> It's just you, the destructor closes it automatically.
08:47 <luke-jr> ah
09:14 <luke-jr> z-man: "Luke wanted to start on XMPP authentication. I was planning to add the crude client-backward-compatible MD5 authentication later when Luke is finished. We can reverse the order, depending on the state Luke has his stuff in. What is it, Luke? If it's "still planning" or "implementing the basics in some other files", then I could do a quick job at ePlayer.cpp, refactoring it to add a flexible authentication system interface,
09:14 <luke-jr> move the MD5 specific stuff out of there and we both build on top of that. "
09:14 <luke-jr> z-man: you ever do that? :þ
09:39 <z-man> nope :)
09:53 <luke-jr> after rereading all the authentication discussion, I have come to the conclusion that
09:53 <luke-jr> my head hurts ☹
09:53 <z-man> Feel free to ignore it :) It was mostly nitpickery from all sides.
09:54 <luke-jr> yeah, and paranoia
09:54 <z-man> My only critique of the XMPP suggestions I rememer is that the XMPP authentication server knows what you are doing.
09:54 <luke-jr> I think I'm going to take the route of pretending nobody cares to go to trouble to hack my stats
09:54 <luke-jr> and it's just a nice convenience
09:55 <z-man> Wasn't hacking your stats right now just a matter of entering a server as luke-jr, then renaming to z-man?
09:55 <luke-jr> well, that would tie the name 'z-man' to my rating
09:55 <luke-jr> #aka luke-jr
09:55 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿8 luke-jr
09:55 <luke-jr> that would list z-man also
09:56 <z-man> So every name is initially tracked separately?
09:56 <z-man> and only the #aka thing links the different entries?
09:56 <luke-jr> names are not tracked per se
09:56 <z-man> well, usernames generated from the names.
09:56 <luke-jr> when it sees a new name, it creates a UID and associates the name with it
09:56 <luke-jr> eg, my UID is 8
09:57 <luke-jr> when I rename, it associates the new name with the old name's UID
09:57 <luke-jr> #aka ct_ky13
09:57 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿1516 noob ct_ky13 murked
09:57 <luke-jr> only if I rename in a participating server, obviously ;)
09:57 <z-man> yeah.
09:58 <z-man> but when I do the rename from luke-jr to z-man and continue to play as z-man, all my games will count for your UID, right?
09:58 <luke-jr> actually, all this authentication crap would be unnecessary if people wouldn't keep changing their names :x
09:58 <luke-jr> z-man: right
09:59 <luke-jr> the only exceptions being if one of the names is player_[1234]
09:59 <luke-jr> which are excluded from rename tracking
09:59 <z-man> So the state of authentication you want to drive arma to is the one where you can use the authentication ID instead of the player name.
10:00 <luke-jr> hm
10:00 <luke-jr> that could be overly simple, actually
10:01 <luke-jr> server generates a unique-random token the first time it starts, players send MD5(login+password+token) as their "username"…
10:02 <luke-jr> then just track that MD5
10:02 <luke-jr> though it wouldn't work on a global scale
10:03 <z-man> I meant your XMPP authentication.
10:04 <z-man> MD5 is to be considered broken, and in that scheme, you also could not change your password.
10:04 <luke-jr> true
10:05 <luke-jr> yeah, so basically ladderlog and such would record xmpp¿luke@dashjr.org instead of luke-jr
10:05 <luke-jr> where ¿ is chosen simply because it is not allowed in existing usernames :þ
10:06 <luke-jr> perhaps ®xmpp:luke@dashjr.org would be more logical
10:07 <z-man> Something like that, yes.
10:07 <z-man> We just have to take care, the username is also used for kicking players, and an untypable character would mess that up :)
10:07 <z-man> How many usernames are there right now with an @ in them?
10:07 <luke-jr> I thought some internal # was used
10:08 <luke-jr> 31 that I see
10:08 <z-man> Yeah, you can also kick users by their numeric ID, but I prefer the username.
10:09 <luke-jr> isn't the username matching done as a substr?
10:09 <z-man> no, not currently.
10:09 <z-man> We should sanity-check and unify all the commands that accept names one day.
10:09 <luke-jr> well, since we don't want to display the JID to users anyway, admins would need to do a lookup either way
10:09 <z-man> so that /msg and KICK work the same.
10:10 <z-man> We don't want to display the JID?
10:10 <z-man> What about friend lists? :)
10:10 <luke-jr> not if we only care about servers being unfoolable
10:10 <luke-jr> since another authentication scheme might be key-based
10:11 <luke-jr> ®aakey:0x284834532052 <-- would look ugly
10:11 <z-man> well, yeah, right.
10:12 <z-man> How about this:
10:12 <z-man> every player has three name-like strings.
10:12 <z-man> First, the screen name. Arbitrary as it is now.
10:12 <z-man> Second, the internal authentication token. authentication implementation dependant, unique for every user, used internally.
10:13 <z-man> Third, a public authentication name. Does not need to be unique, but should be human readable.
10:13 <z-man> For XMPP, the public authentication name could just be xmpp:luke@dashjr.org
10:13 <luke-jr> what's the difference between 1st and 3rd?
10:14 <z-man> the third is auto-generated from the second.
10:14 <z-man> umm
10:14 <z-man> So obviously, pure key-based auth would be out of the question then. No loss if you ask me.
10:15 <luke-jr> I don't get the point :x
10:15 <luke-jr> what use is the 3rd one?
10:15 <z-man> Dunno, public display and stuff.
10:15 <z-man> Aww, forget it :)
10:16 <z-man> I'd just make it a requirement that the authentication name needs to contain human readable parts.
10:16 <z-man> So no pure key-based auth.
10:16 <z-man> keys would need to be generated from a random token AND A USERNAME, and the authentication name would contain that username.
10:17 <z-man> aakey:z-man|0xblablubb
10:17 <luke-jr> I still don't see why humans need to read the authentication token :x
10:17 <luke-jr> unless it's unique, might as well be the #1 arbitrary name
10:17 <z-man> The token would be unique.
10:18 <luke-jr> not the human readable part in that example
10:18 <z-man> forget the public authentication name.
10:18 <z-man> and forget about key-based authentication.
10:19 <z-man> Just assume that all other authentication schemes will also produce a readable token.
10:20 <z-man> where xmpp produces xmpp:luke@dashjr.org, a key based scheme would produce md5:z-man|AFLGJASVJEA
10:20 <luke-jr> ok
10:20 <luke-jr> I forget what problem we're trying to solve with this part of the discussion
10:20 <luke-jr> :|
10:21 <z-man> It's the problem that we may want to do more with the authentication token than just tracking users for the ranking table :)
10:22 <luke-jr> /whois <arbitrary displayed name>
10:23 <luke-jr> could show the token and such
10:23 <z-man> For example.
10:23 <z-man> And there is stuff like team management.
10:24 <z-man> Right now, tournament games are a pain, because the poor admin either has to kick unwanted players really fast,
10:24 <z-man> or allow new players to join a team really fast.
10:24 <luke-jr> hm
10:24 <z-man> A way to predefine the teams would be nice, and for that, readable authentication tokens would be useful.
10:24 <luke-jr> scripts could do that via ladderlog?
10:25 <z-man> Yes, but at some point, a human has to associate users to teams, or at least define the set of users who are allowed to play.
10:25 <luke-jr> well, XMPP tokens would be readable, so that problem is for later IMO
10:26 <z-man> Exactly what I'm trying to tell you :)
10:26 <z-man> Don't worry about other authentication schemes with unreadable tokens, there won't be any :)
10:26 <z-man> just mark your token as xmpp, and we'll be future safe.
10:27 <luke-jr> instead of the ® prefix, the server could force "" around unauthenticated names, or prefix them with :: or such
10:27 <z-man> Right.
10:27 <z-man> Whereas right now, it would be best if your ranking script did that, while there are no servers with real authentication out there.
10:27 <luke-jr> this forces me to have the ratings script give a clue as to whether ladderlog supports auth tho
10:28 <z-man> yes, as soon as auth is supported, an USERNAMES_ARE_AUTH_TOKENS event could be printed to it.
10:28 <luke-jr> that could be easily missed ;)
10:29 <z-man> missed? By your script?
10:29 <luke-jr> yes
10:29 <luke-jr> server admins could forget to start it
10:29 <z-man> Ah, the server itself would print it.
10:30 <luke-jr> if the script isn't running at that time, it would miss it
10:30 <z-man> I don't know how your script operates :)
10:30 <z-man> does it tail the ladderlog?
10:31 <luke-jr> tail -n0 -F ladderlog.txt | ./sendstats.pl USER PASS
10:31 <luke-jr> is how admins invoke it
10:33 <luke-jr> I suppose the kick/kill etc commands could be mangling instead of messing with ladderlog stuff
10:33 <z-man> ah. Well, then we could extend the log event that says a user renamed.
10:33 <luke-jr> so ladderlog could keep with simple names for unauth, and prefix the ® for auth tokens
10:33 <luke-jr> and the remote admin interface could s/"(.*)"/$1/ and prefix ® to everything else
10:34 <luke-jr> and even map "…" to the user showing … regardless of their auth or not
10:35 <z-man> Sounds ugly. I'd rather keep the unwieldy characters out.
10:36 <z-man> Why not accompany PLAYER_ENTERED with PLAYER_IS_AUTHENTICATED or something?
10:36 <luke-jr> then my server would need to track connected players? ☺
10:36 <z-man> We'd need to work over that bit of the ladderlog anyway, because you'll only want to print authentication tokens for authenticated players.
10:37 <z-man> Whoever does the parsing of the ladderlog, yes.
10:38 <luke-jr> that'd be a pain
10:38 <luke-jr> right now I can Ctrl-C it and start it up stateless
10:38 <luke-jr> useful for development
10:38 <tramshed> shoop
10:38 <luke-jr> (well, it's always stateless)
10:38 <z-man> Well, then distribute two versions of the script.
10:39 <z-man> One for servers without authentication support, and one for servers with authentication support.
10:39 <z-man> You'll notice when server admins use the wrong one :)
10:39 <luke-jr> yeah; the only catch is everyone parsing/tracking ladderlog needs to do that ☺
10:39 <tramshed> just out of curiosity, wouldnt it be easier to just make servers passwordable?
10:39 <luke-jr> tramshed: they already are
10:40 <tramshed> oh really?
10:40 <tramshed> haha
10:40 <tramshed> ignore me
10:40 <luke-jr> more or less :þ
10:40 <luke-jr> but I don't want to have to register my name on every server individually, nor do most people I think
10:40 <tramshed> nah, im not talking register,etc
10:41 <tramshed> just a basic password to get on the server
10:41 <tramshed> would make runnin tourneys easier
10:41 <luke-jr> completely unrelated problem, from my perspective ☺
10:41 <tramshed> well, I havnt read the whole convo, so youll have to excuse me
10:42 <tramshed> hmm, correct me if im wrong, but you want to be able to identify players regardless of thier names right?
10:42 <luke-jr> more or less
10:43 <tramshed> hmm
10:43 <tramshed> maybe make a "Generate Unique Key" option in the player setup
10:43 <tramshed> so they can generate a key that identifies them to the server
10:43 <z-man> I knew a "simple solution" would come up :)
10:44 <z-man> The problem with that is that the key would easily get lost.
10:44 <tramshed> hmm, maybe generate it based on a passphrase
10:44 <tramshed> that way they can get it back if they lose it
10:44 <z-man> People will forget their passphrase.
10:44 <tramshed> true
10:44 <luke-jr> z-man: that's a problem in any auth
10:44 <tramshed> but thats going to be an issue with any kind of system like that
10:44 <luke-jr> big problem with XMPP auth:
10:44 <z-man> Yeah, but usually, IM accounts can be recovered.
10:44 <luke-jr> servers would need an account too
10:45 <z-man> That's a big problem?
10:45 <tramshed> hmm
10:45 <luke-jr> it means we can't ship it auth-capable from the start
10:45 <tramshed> maybe add an option to email the key to blahblah email when its created?
10:45 <tramshed> seems simple enough
10:46 <tramshed> that way they have a copy lying about
10:46 <z-man> People would delete the email.
10:46 <luke-jr> lol
10:46 <tramshed> hah
10:46 <tramshed> well, if they wanna fail that hard, id say let them
10:46 <luke-jr> well, as far as ratings go, I can obviously associate a new token to their UID
10:46 <z-man> And of course the biggest problem with the simple clientside key auth is:
10:47 <z-man> it's probably not safe.
10:47 <tramshed> true
10:47 <tramshed> but it is only tron, hehe
10:47 <tramshed> any way I can think of off the top of my head would be a pain in the ass
10:48 <z-man> the thing is, the software is open source, so it would be no problem to hack the client to send whatever the server is expecting for a certain authentication
10:48 <z-man> unless our auth shceme is cryptographically secure.
10:48 <z-man> luke-jr: wouldn't that be a pain every time?
10:49 <tramshed> is there any reason to not use something secure?
10:49 <luke-jr> ?
10:49 <z-man> It's hard to roll a secure system on your own.
10:49 <z-man> The well known secure methods all require big integer calculations.
10:49 <tramshed> why not just use something off the shelf?
10:50 <z-man> The libraries are too big :)
10:50 <tramshed> hah
10:50 <tramshed> what about simple hashes?
10:50 <z-man> not secure.
10:50 <tramshed> I would think they would be secure enough for tron though
10:50 <tramshed> would still take forever to try to brute force one
10:50 <luke-jr> tramshed: implemented how?
10:51 <luke-jr> the only way I came up with meant servers have different tokens for each user
10:51 <luke-jr> which breaks global ratings
10:51 <tramshed> client generates a hash, everytime it connects to a server it sends the hash, the server keeps the hash, and knows that anytime it sees that hash, its x user
10:51 <z-man> Right.
10:51 <tramshed> wait
10:51 <tramshed> nevermind
10:51 <z-man> heh
10:51 <tramshed> there is a HUGE hole in that idea
10:51 <luke-jr> yeah
10:51 <luke-jr> what happens if someone else gets to the server first
10:52 <tramshed> well, I wasnt referring to securing nicknames
10:52 <luke-jr> oh
10:52 <tramshed> I was referring to the fact that any server you connect to the admin has your hash
10:52 <tramshed> and can imitate you
10:52 <luke-jr> yeah
10:52 <luke-jr> unless it's server-specific
10:52 <tramshed> im a little drunk
10:52 <luke-jr> which breaks global ratings
10:52 <tramshed> hmm
10:52 <tramshed> what about a central server?
10:52 <tramshed> ones thats "trusted"
10:53 <tramshed> ones=one
10:53 <luke-jr> then Lucifer gets pissed
10:53 <tramshed> lol
10:53 <z-man> And you'd still need to get the auth information to the game servers.
10:53 <tramshed> true, but you could maybe make them update the info like once every hour or so
10:53 <z-man> Which is exactly what luke's xmpp approach does, just without the central server.
10:54 <luke-jr> what if we just designate a 'default server account' that anyone can connect to?
10:54 <tramshed> the whole situation sounds messy
10:54 <luke-jr> servers could use it by default, while having no worse security than they do already
10:54 <z-man> luke-jr: might work. If we don't want to publish the account info...
10:54 <luke-jr> actually, we could possibly make them auto-register
10:54 <z-man> we could implement an insecure proxy to that account.
10:55 <luke-jr> generating a password at first start
10:55 <tramshed> wasnt there some kind of legal issue with autogenning stuff?
10:55 <luke-jr> and a random username if the admin doesn't assign one :þ
10:55 <tramshed> I thought I brought this up a few years ago
10:55 <luke-jr> tramshed: wtf?
10:55 <luke-jr> /dev/urandom is not patented
10:55 <luke-jr> I hope
10:55 <z-man> you think we remember something from a few years ago?
10:55 <tramshed> lol
10:56 <tramshed> I barely remember it myself
10:56 <luke-jr> heh, that reminds me: mkpasswd has been taking me 2+ minutes lately
10:56 <luke-jr> because the server lacks any entropy sources
10:56 <luke-jr> so Linux can't generate enough random
10:56 <z-man> OMG, it's freezing!
10:56 <tramshed> put the mouse on a treadmill
10:56 <luke-jr> tramshed: it has no mouse
10:56 <luke-jr> nor keyboard
10:56 <luke-jr> nor IDE disks
10:56 <tramshed> no wonder
10:56 <luke-jr> lol
10:57 <z-man> Just to remind myself, the basic idea of the xmpp auth was this:
10:57 <z-man> client sends server xmpp account info
10:57 <z-man> server sends random message to that account
10:58 <z-man> client receives it over xmpp
10:58 <z-man> client sends message to server over the regular network protocol
10:58 <z-man> server knows clients is who it claims it is
10:58 <z-man> right?
10:59 <luke-jr> z-man: that covers the auth, yes
10:59 <luke-jr> implementation, I was thinking something like:
10:59 <luke-jr> server uses existing auth system to prompt for password when it gets an auth token
11:00 <luke-jr> "password" is the token sent over XMPP
11:01 <z-man> Sounds good.
11:01 <luke-jr> that way, people could use a normal IM client to get the token
11:01 <luke-jr> and use a non-XMPP client to connect, possibly
11:01 <tramshed> oh, that reminds me, your ranking script crashed on me the other day
11:01 <tramshed> forget what the error was
11:01 <luke-jr> tramshed: -.-
11:01 <z-man> ah, clever.
11:01 <luke-jr> forgetting errors isn't useful
11:01 <tramshed> indeed its not
11:01 <tramshed> it might of crashed again, lemme check
11:01 <luke-jr> tramshed: sure you don't mean a warning?
11:02 <tramshed> I had to restart it
11:02 <luke-jr> i c
11:02 <luke-jr> lemme give it a bump
11:02 <luke-jr> there :þ
11:02 <luke-jr> z-man: although
11:02 <tramshed> hmm, dunno now, but I do have a nice chunk of errors
11:02 <tramshed> though its still running
11:03 <luke-jr> does the existing stuff auth with the display name or some other username? :|
11:03 <luke-jr> tramshed: warnings, not errors ;)
11:03 <tramshed> Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at ./sendstats.pl line 68, <SOCK> line 26.
11:03 <tramshed> connect: Operation timed out at ./sendstats.pl line 33, <SOCK> line 26.
11:03 <luke-jr> ooo
11:03 <luke-jr> what version?
11:03 <z-man> The existing auth stuff displays a name the server is sending, IIRC.
11:03 <tramshed> whichever one you sent me
11:03 <luke-jr> z-man: what I mean is, how will the server know someone wants to auth?
11:04 <luke-jr> tramshed: what size? :þ
11:04 <z-man> It doesn't.
11:04 <tramshed> 1.6
11:04 <tramshed> k
11:04 <luke-jr> exactly?
11:04 <tramshed> 1684 to be exact
11:04 <luke-jr> z-man: so backward compat is shot?
11:04 <luke-jr> tramshed: i don't have a 1684 byte version :x
11:04 <z-man> No, you can trigger auth with an /authme chat command.
11:04 <tramshed> I didnt edit it at all, lol
11:04 <luke-jr> but it's been larger than that for a month now ☺
11:05 <luke-jr> tramshed: http://ratings.armagetronad.net/download/
11:05 <luke-jr> z-man: ah
11:05 <tramshed> timestamp on it is dec 9th
11:05 <luke-jr> and PLAYER_RENAMED?
11:05 <z-man> What about it?
11:05 <luke-jr> -rw-r--r-- 1 luke-jr luke-jr 1680 Dec  9 02:27 sendstats.pl.r629
11:05 <luke-jr> -rw-r--r-- 1 luke-jr luke-jr 1809 Dec  9 16:27 sendstats.pl.r646
11:06 <luke-jr> z-man: well, I'm assuming auth while entering
11:06 <luke-jr> z-man: not sure how to handle auth on the fly
11:06 <luke-jr> would need to discard past events at least
11:06 <z-man> ah, the initial player name would be unauthed:z-man
11:06 <luke-jr> which creates a new UID…
11:07 <luke-jr> and when you rename, it replaces the auth'd UID with the non-auth'd one…
11:07 <luke-jr> :\
11:07 <tramshed> oh yeah
11:07 <tramshed> I did edit it
11:07 <tramshed> I had to point it to where BSD has perl
11:07 <luke-jr> lol
11:07 <z-man> well, as soon as auth is widespread, your rating system should simply ignore all unauthed: tokens :)
11:07 <luke-jr> tramshed: well upgrade, there's been quite a bit of bugfixes
11:07 <tramshed> runnin the new one now
11:08 <luke-jr> z-man: :/
11:08 <z-man> Or treat them separately.
11:08 <luke-jr> hm
11:08 <tramshed> Ill detach it and check it tomorrow
11:08 <tramshed> see if its spouted anything at me
11:08 <z-man> I mean, what's the harm of a second unauthed UID for everyone?
11:08 <luke-jr> tramshed: most likely warnings
11:08 <luke-jr> z-man: pushes people down the ranks :þ
11:08 <luke-jr> like me
11:09 <luke-jr> I was in the top 400 before WW started participating ☺
11:09 <tramshed> if they care about rank, they will auth
11:09 <z-man> luke-jr: don't blame me for flaws in the ranking system :)
11:09 <z-man> whi is WW?
11:09 <luke-jr> Wild West
11:09 <z-man> and the problem with that is?
11:09 <luke-jr> nothing
11:09 <z-man> how did it push you donw then?
11:09 <luke-jr> just pointing out that having 2 of everyone means instead of 400th place, I'd be 800th
11:10 <z-man> heh
11:10 <luke-jr> more players on the table
11:10 <tramshed> lol, I only know two poeple in the rop 25
11:10 <z-man> We'll have that problem anyway in the looong transition period where authenticating and non-authenticating servers coexist.
11:11 <tramshed> I made a test server the other day with a crapload of axes (50) I think, and no cycle delay, then used the mouse to control the bike, it was fun till it crashed
11:11 <luke-jr> z-man: true
11:11 <tramshed> I think I could of wrote cursive
11:11 <luke-jr> tramshed: pretty sure the docs say CYCLE_DELAY 0 is unsupported ;p
11:12 <tramshed> really?
11:12 <luke-jr> #armaconfig CYCLE_DELAY
11:12 <tramshed> I havnt read the docs in years
11:12 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_DELAY: Minimum time between turns (must be greater than 0) (default: 0.1) || CYCLE_DELAY_DOUBLEBIND_BONUS: cycle_delay_doublebind_bonus_help (default: 1) || CYCLE_DELAY_DOUBLEBIND_BONUS_OVERRIDE: cycle_delay_doublebind_bonus_override_help (default: 3) || CYCLE_DELAY_TIMEBASED: Turn delays will be based on the time since the last turn if this is 1 (default) and the distance if this is 0. (1 more message)
11:12 <luke-jr> yeah, must be > 0
11:12 <tramshed> musta been why it crashed
11:13 <tramshed> was lots of fun though
11:13 <tramshed> hard as hell to grind
11:13 <z-man> Well, craploads of axes may also be the problem.
11:13 <luke-jr> lol
11:13 <tramshed> yeah, I attributed the crash to my jackassery
11:14 <tramshed> plus it seems to act silly on bsd sometimes
11:14 <tramshed> but that could be due to my unfamiliarity with bsd
11:14 <luke-jr> anyway, I think player auth should occur when entering the Game menu
11:15 <luke-jr> comments?
11:15 <tramshed> too soon
11:15 <tramshed> what if its not the guy who usually plays
11:15 <luke-jr> then he needs to back out and go to Player Setup anyway
11:15 <tramshed> what about local games?
11:15 <tramshed> I think once you enter the server browser
11:15 <tramshed> would be a good time to do the auth stuff
11:16 <luke-jr> or Network Play?
11:16 <tramshed> gives it time to ping the servers too
11:16 <luke-jr> except eventually, I'd like to move the master server protocol to XMPP as well ;)
11:16 <luke-jr> so it would need to be auth'd for that
11:17 <tramshed> man, att wants a crapload of money for a static ip
11:17 <tramshed> 30 bucks more a month
11:18 <tramshed> comes with dns control and all that good stuff, but still
11:18 <z-man> luke-jr: auth NEEDS TO STAY OPTIONAL :)
11:19 <tramshed> I would agree
11:19 <z-man> so no way, the master server protocol needs to stay off XMPP.
11:19 <luke-jr> z-man: hey, it was your idea
11:19 <tramshed> forced registration and things of that nature turn a lot of people off
11:19 <z-man> it was?
11:19 <z-man> Well, it's still bad :)
11:19 <luke-jr> that's what the forums say!
11:19 <tramshed> haha
11:19 <luke-jr> z-man: we already need automatic account creation for unconfigured servers
11:20 <z-man> No :)
11:20 <luke-jr> what if those accounts are temporary?
11:20 <luke-jr> and deleted after being used
11:20 <z-man> we can let those sent the authentication message over the master servers.
11:20 <luke-jr> ?
11:20 <tramshed> this is sounding like a massive amount of work just to keep track of a players ratings
11:20 <z-man> Instead of a server directly sending the auth token to the client over XMPP...
11:20 <luke-jr> proxying? :\
11:21 <z-man> right :)
11:21 <luke-jr> why not just have it create a temporary account?
11:21 <z-man> On what server?
11:21 <z-man> If the server is run by us, no problem.
11:21 <luke-jr> if the master servers eventually do XMPP, they could easily do temporary accounts too
11:21 <z-man> Ok, agreed.
11:21 <z-man> Would probably be simplier.
11:22 <luke-jr> it also makes it easy for normal IM clients to browse servers and better integration
11:22 <luke-jr> solving that "Friends" thread ;P
11:22 <z-man> Yeah :)
11:23  * luke-jr hopes the UI code is clean :x
11:24 <luke-jr> should I put XMPP stuff in nAuthentification or some new file?
11:28 <z-man> rename nAuthentification to nAuthentication and put it there :)
11:30 <luke-jr> heh
11:30  * luke-jr just started nXMPP cuz you were slow :x
11:30 <luke-jr> can I rename COLOR to COLOUR too? :D
11:31 <luke-jr> presumably, I should make this #ifdef'd?
11:38 <luke-jr> z-man: btw, you get to fix the Mac stuff
11:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7518 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (11 files in 4 dirs): rename nAuthentification -- z-man made me do it :o
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11:57 <luke-jr> wb
11:58 <zmanuel> COLOR stays COLOR :) Contrary to nAuthentiFIcation, COLOR at least is not wrong.
11:58 <zmanuel> nemostultae took care of the mac stuff, judging by his post and the commits.
11:58 <zmanuel> Haven't tested it yet.
12:01 <luke-jr> I mean nAuthentication
12:01 <luke-jr> for Mac
12:01 <luke-jr> the project file is not sed-compatible
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12:05 <luke-jr>      LIBS        : -lpthread -L/usr/lib64 -lruby -lSDL_image -ljpeg -lz -lGLU -lGL -lSDL_mixer -lSDL -lpthread -lm -lxml2 -lz -lm  -liksemel    -lGLU -lGL -lfreetype -lz -lftgl   -lfreetype -lz -lpng12
12:05 <luke-jr> yay
12:06 <luke-jr> I'm committing this stuff into trunk right?
12:06 <luke-jr> once it works, i mean
12:12 <zmanuel> For the mac, whoever gets to compile the trunk first also gets to fix it :)
12:12 <zmanuel> that's our traditional approach for both mac and windows project files.
12:12 <zmanuel> You can commit it to trunk or your own branch, I don't mind.
12:13 <zmanuel> If you work directly on the trunk, it will probably be harder to backport.
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12:23 <luke-jr> ugh!
12:23 <luke-jr> iksemel doesn't implement the DNS side ☹
12:28  * z-man wouldn't be surprised if that was the only omission
12:29 <luke-jr> O.o
12:30 <luke-jr> should I use gloox then?
12:31 <z-man> How should I know?
12:31 <luke-jr> :þ
12:32 <z-man> I have no objections against either. Is any of those more frequently already installed on systems?
12:35 <luke-jr> iksemel was already on my laptop
12:36 <luke-jr> gloox is GPLv2, much larger, and (I think) not usable for plain XML parsing
12:36 <luke-jr> tho the libxml2 replacement idea might be shot anyway-- I don't think iksemel does DTD validation
12:36 <luke-jr> assuming we don't want to give that up
12:37 <z-man> Well, it's handy.
12:38 <z-man> Why don't you make a mockup test with iksemel?
12:38 <z-man> Just try to get something sent, and something received.
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12:38 <z-man> and if the DNS lookup is all it doesn't do, well, nSocket can do that.
12:39 <z-man> Or rather nAddress.
12:40 <luke-jr> it can?
12:40 <luke-jr> remember this isn't a simple A lookup
12:40 <z-man> Oh, it isn't?
12:40 <luke-jr> no
12:40 <luke-jr> most clients don't support it, actually
12:41 <luke-jr> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2782.txt
12:41 <luke-jr> the DNS record specifies load balancing, failover, and port numbers
12:41 <luke-jr> not just IP addresses
12:42 <z-man> And most clients ignore it?
12:42 <luke-jr> yeah, most clients just let you specifying where to connect manually
12:42 <luke-jr> specify*
12:43 <luke-jr> servers, on the other hand, are absolutely required to support it
12:43 <luke-jr> but I don't think we need to deal with that side
12:43 <z-man> Yeah, we only need a server on the masters.
12:43 <z-man> So just ignore it, too, and declare it a problem to be solved later :)
12:43 <luke-jr> probably easiest to write a simple temporary user module for ejabberd
12:44 <z-man> whatever, /me needs to be off
12:44 <z-man> cu
12:44 <luke-jr> ttyl
12:44 <luke-jr> wait
12:44 <luke-jr> iksemel has a handle
12:45 <luke-jr> where do I put it XD
12:45 <luke-jr> on the player, I guess?
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16:49 <vinavil> does cycle_width work?
16:50 <P4> i never used it
16:51 <eddiefantastic> vinavil: yes, as far as I know
16:54 <vinavil> i tried it in local game, but it doesn't seem to work. anybody would like to join me in FTS for a test?
16:54 <P4> sure
16:56 <vinavil> well
16:56 <P4> i am running version incopatibile with server oO
16:56 <P4> here
16:56 <vinavil> heh
16:56 <vinavil> i think you need the lastest trunk to play with width
16:56 <P4> oh
16:56 <P4> i'm not gonna build it on my windows :þ im n.o.o.b. :)
16:57 <vinavil> maybe 0.3 will work
16:57 <P4> may be, let's check it
16:58 <P4> same error
16:58 <vinavil> heh
16:58 <vinavil> ok
16:59 <vinavil> anybody else?
17:01 <vinavil> well, anyway it doesn't seem to work
17:02 <vinavil> no difference between 0, 10 or 1000 as cycle_width value
17:02 <vinavil> at least from here
17:02 <P4> #cfg cycle_width
17:02 <armabot> P4: CYCLE_WIDTH: The width of the cycle collision object. It can only squeeze through tunnels wider than that without taking harm. (default: 0) || CYCLE_WIDTH_OVERRIDE: cycle_width_override_help (default: 3) || CYCLE_WIDTH_RUBBER_MAX: If the cycle_width conditions are massively violated, use up this much rubber.If set to 1, the rubber usage rate is the same as if you were sitting in front of a wall. (2 more messages)
17:03 <P4> what is it for? :þ i don't get this help text :)
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17:57 <epsy> hi
18:20 <StickyNoob> hay
18:25 <cusco> hai
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02:56 <spidey_> yawn
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08:07 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
08:07 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 499th with a rating of 1527-1561 (from 1513-1548)
08:07 <luke-jr> :D
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10:20 <luke-jr> hm
10:20 <luke-jr> top 25 ratings page is just under 10 KB
10:20 <luke-jr> any ideas to make it smaller? >_<
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11:49 <guru3> gzip it to supporting browsers?
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12:24 <guru3> is there anyway to not recompile all of tron with only one change?
12:29 <luke-jr> uh
12:29 <luke-jr> that's default
12:31 <guru3> well it's rather annoying when you want to test if something works :/
12:32 <luke-jr> …
12:32 <luke-jr> default is to only recompile modified files and things depending on them
12:32 <guru3> well it keeps recompiling the entire thing
12:32 <luke-jr> maybe check your system clock
12:33 <luke-jr> and file timestamps-- perhaps some have future modification dates
12:33 <guru3> they're all dated jan 29 2007
12:33 <guru3> well most of them are
12:33 <luke-jr> and your system clock?
12:34 <guru3> jan 15 2008
12:34 <luke-jr> hmm
12:34 <luke-jr> is it doing this repeatedly, or just once so far
12:34 <guru3> repeatedly
12:34 <luke-jr> :/
12:35 <guru3> it takes like a minute or two to compile
12:35 <guru3> but it's still annoying
12:35 <luke-jr> :o
12:35 <luke-jr> takes like 15 mins here
12:35  * guru3 points to dual core
12:35 <luke-jr> are you modifying some popular header?
12:36 <guru3> no
12:36 <guru3> modifying a cpp
12:36 <luke-jr> I think you've exhausted my theories
12:37 <guru3> D:
12:37 <guru3> it really beats me
12:37 <luke-jr> you're not using -B, right?
12:38 <guru3> -B?
12:38 <luke-jr> make -B
12:38 <guru3> no
12:38 <guru3> no clue what that does
12:38 <luke-jr> forces recompiling
12:39 <luke-jr> make -t?
12:41 <guru3> no
12:41 <guru3> -j
12:41 <luke-jr> try with -t
12:41 <guru3> so that it uses the cores
12:41 <guru3> will do next change
12:41 <luke-jr> maybe make distclean ;)
12:42 <luke-jr> head config.log first to grab configure options
12:43 <guru3> nothing out of the order there
12:43 <guru3> as near as i can tell anyway
12:43 <luke-jr> if you make distclean, it will lose config options
12:43 <luke-jr> that's why save them
12:43 <guru3> i just did default ./configure
12:44 <luke-jr> i c
12:45 <luke-jr> well if a full distclean doesn't fix it, I'm out of ideas
12:47 <guru3> right-o, thanks
12:47 <guru3> make[3]: Warning: File `/usr/include/SDL/SDL.h' has modification time 2.2e+07 s in the future
12:48 <guru3> do you suppose that might do it
12:55 <guru3> i believe it has
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15:04 <guru3> i've discovered some sort of bug in StrPos
15:25 <guru3> haha jk
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17:21 <DrJoeTron> damn 27 people
17:21 <DrJoeTron> higer than usual
17:37 <epsy> « usual » ftl
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17:45 <madmax> #ping
17:45 <armabot> pong
17:45 <epsy> zoink
17:45 <K-Yo> hey
17:47 <K-Yo> anyone know tv show "my name is earl"?
17:47 <epsy> « my name is james » xD
17:47 <epsy> personal quote lol sry :)
17:48 <DrJoeTron> K-Yo yes
17:48 <K-Yo> u like it?
17:49 <DrJoeTron> i only saw the first season, it was pretty good
17:49 <DrJoeTron> i'm never around when its on :/
17:52 <K-Yo> ah too bad, i'm at the 1x14 (or smth like that) and i'm an addict now ;)
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18:03 <wrtlprnft> wow
18:04  * wrtlprnft never knew there was a southpark episode featuring the MCP
18:05 <DrJoeTron> oh sure
18:05 <wrtlprnft> as moses o_O
18:05 <DrJoeTron> yup
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18:05 <DrJoeTron> i vaguely remember that episode
18:06 <wrtlprnft> but he didn't seem to be such an evil guy after all
18:06 <DrJoeTron> and that was the only thing i remembered actually
18:06 <wrtlprnft> though i'd have preferred to see a southpark lightcycle match
18:07 <wrtlprnft> with the orange cycle getting destroyed, obviously
18:11  * wrtlprnft just googled, there's a simpson episode with tron in it, too.
18:11 <wrtlprnft> sick.
18:11 <wrtlprnft> g2g
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18:49 <zmanuel> guru3: you're right about the StrPos bug
18:49 <zmanuel> let's fix it in 0.2.8 :)
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18:50 <CFC> hi
18:50 <K-Yo> hey
18:50 <madmax> hi
18:50 <K-Yo> CFC is making a server
18:50 <K-Yo> and needs a german speaking help ><
18:51 <CFC> BITTE
18:51 <K-Yo> CFC, answers can be long
18:52 <CFC> ???
18:52 <CFC> okay
18:52 <K-Yo> .t en de answers can be long to come
18:52 <K-Yo> .translate en de answers can be long to come
18:53 <CFC> ???
18:53 <CFC> what is .t en de
18:53 <madmax> it's #<command>
18:53 <madmax> #t en de answers could take long
18:53 <CFC> .t de en ich brauche hile
18:53 <armabot> madmax: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate".
18:54 <madmax> o_o
18:54 <P4> #alias add t Babelfish translate $*
18:54 <armabot> P4: The operation succeeded.
18:54 <P4> #alias add t "Babelfish translate $*"
18:54 <armabot> P4: The operation succeeded.
18:54 <CFC> .reanslate de en HILFE!
18:54 <CFC> .translate de en HILFE!
18:54 <P4> -.-
18:54 <xfroggy> #translate de en HILFE!
18:54 <CFC> help
18:54 <madmax> hey, calm down
18:54 <xfroggy> :|
18:54 <armabot> xfroggy: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate".
18:55 <xfroggy> whoa
18:55 <CFC> kann jemand deutsch?
18:55 <P4> #t de en so ist das leben
18:55 <armabot> P4: like that is live
18:55 <CFC> #t de en ich brauche hilfe bei armagetron für meinen server
18:55 <armabot> CFC: I need assistance with armagetron für mine servers
18:55 <xfroggy> hooray!
18:56 <CFC> #t de en ich möchte shooting in meinem server haben
18:56 <armabot> CFC: I möchte shooting in my server have
18:57 <epsy> madmax, have some time ?
18:57 <madmax> CFC: perhaps you should post here about your problem: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewforum.php?f=52
18:57 <madmax> epsy: for what?
18:57 <CFC> #t de en ich kann nicht gut anglish
18:58 <armabot> CFC: I cannot well anglish
18:58 <epsy> madmax, some debugging
18:58 <epsy> come to x fort :)
18:59 <CFC> #t de en ich will shooting in my server have
18:59 <armabot> CFC: I want shooting in my server have
19:00 <P4> #t en de learn english, it will help you a lot
19:00 <armabot> P4: erlernen Sie Englisch, es hilft Ihnen viel
19:00 <CFC> #t de en ich bin 11 jahre alt
19:00 <armabot> CFC: I am 11 years old
19:01 <P4> #t en de i've learned english since i was 9 years old :)
19:01 <armabot> P4: ich habe Englisch erlernt, seit ich 9 Jahre: alt war)
19:02 <CFC> #t de en ich bin aus deutschland und in der klasse 5
19:02 <armabot> CFC: I am from Germany and in the class 5
19:02 <xfroggy> poor guy, he asking for help and P4 is telling him to learn English :D
19:02 <CFC> :(
19:02 <P4> i don't know german…
19:02 <P4> and english is really important in the net
19:02 <CFC> #t de en HAHA dann lern deutsch!
19:02 <armabot> CFC: HAHA then learn German!
19:03 <xfroggy> ...
19:03 <CFC> sry
19:03 <P4> most of russians and chinese thinks similiar …
19:03 <CFC> #de en niemand kann mir helfen :(
19:04 <deja_vu> CFC: anscheinend nur englisch-sprechende :P
19:04 <CFC> #t de en niemand kann mir helfen :(
19:04 <armabot> CFC: nobody can help me: (
19:05 <P4> #t en de don't be annoying, it's IRC, people are away from PC
19:05 <CFC> #t de en langweilig
19:05 <armabot> P4: seien Sie nicht, es ist IRC ärgerlich, Leute sind weg von PC
19:05 <armabot> CFC: boringly
19:06 <CFC> :( *TIRED*
19:06 <CFC> bb
19:07 <deja_vu> CFC: hast du auf der armagetron-seite oder im forum geschaut?
19:07 <deja_vu> wahrscheinlich ist eine anleitung - so es denn eine gibt - da auch auf englisch, aber du könntest google oder so zum übersetzen benutzen...
19:08 <CFC> möchte nur wissen wir man shooting macht für meinen server
19:08 <deja_vu> also ich weiß es auch nicht ;)
19:08 <CFC> ok bb
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19:09  * P4 slaps K-Yo twice
19:09 <deja_vu> *sigh*
19:10 <xfroggy> lol ^^
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20:40 <epsy> Hoax-,
20:40 <epsy> we have a clan chan xD
20:45 <epsy> g5vc, ownt
20:45 <g5vc> o rly?
20:45 <epsy> ya
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20:46 <g5zomg> ups
20:46 <g5zomg> owned
20:46 <g5zomg> :D
20:46 <g5zomg> ups, u think u owned meh again? nah wait ;P
20:46 <epsy> now you have to change isp
20:46 <g5zomg> owned again
20:46 <g5zomg> :D
20:47 <g5zomg> ops .
20:47 <epsy> now you need an isp from another land
20:47 <g5zomg> luke-jr, pay
20:47 <epsy> Lucifer_bed, pray
20:47 <epsy> luke-jr, pray*
20:47 <g5zomg> :DD
20:48 <g5zomg> p00n
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21:00  * Hoax- knew already
21:01  * Hoax- slaps pepsi
21:02 <xfroggy> hoax'y!
21:02 <Hoax-> x'y xD
21:02 <xfroggy> xD
21:03 <Hoax-> hrhr
21:03 <xfroggy> hrhrhr! XD
21:03 <Hoax-> :D
21:04 <xfroggy> get ur ass in caf?
21:04 <Hoax-> read my mind
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21:16 <xfroggy> Hoax-, LOL, u left z-man came back! LOL
21:17 <Hoax-> lol spam kick FTL :(
21:18 <xfroggy> hahaha xD
21:18 <xfroggy> u missing it again!
21:18 <Hoax-> 2mins xD
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22:53 <luke-jr> guru3: yeah, that's why I said to check for future modification dates
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Log from 2008-01-16:
--- Day changed Wed Jan 16 2008
00:48 <guru3> zmanuel: what bug was there then? -_-
00:48 <zmanuel> It read over the end of the string to search.
00:48 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
01:00 <guru3> but that wasn't what was giving me segfaults
01:00 <guru3> it was dying on le
01:01 <guru3> *Len
01:05 <guru3> also what do you think about this c't" thing?
01:08 <z-man> I authorized them already :)
01:08 <z-man> It's a standard put-software-on-CD thing.
01:09 <guru3> ok
01:09 <guru3> i just today discovered my server was dumping email in .maildir
01:09 <guru3> so only discovered it now
01:09 <guru3> but mail aside
01:09 <z-man> me too.
01:09 <guru3> anyidea how i can initialize the strings so that it does segfault on Len?
01:10 <z-man> It's probably a different underlying error.
01:10 <z-man> on 0.2.8, I get crashes now because of nonexistent menu entries.
01:10 <guru3> but why does it backtrace to Len -_-
01:10 <z-man> Don't ask me, I did not apply the patch to the trunk.
01:10 <guru3> how i see it is when i go to the friends menu first
01:11 <guru3> it fills them all in when it does the menu items
01:11 <guru3> and then it works fine
01:11 <z-man> maybe something is deleted from under the ass of some function.
01:11 <guru3> hmm
01:11 <z-man> I can get it to work on 0.2.8, I think.
01:12 <z-man> It's just one tiny error :)
01:12 <guru3> one tiny error... that segfaults the game
01:12 <guru3> otherwise i think it works correctly
01:12 <z-man> That's what we've got debug recordings for. I'll get it eventually.
01:12 <guru3> oh that and when you hit the f key
01:12 <guru3> it doesn't immediately refresh the filtering
01:12 <z-man> the broser menu item -> server info mess is my mess.
01:12 <guru3> i imagine i just missed some trigger there though
01:13 <z-man> Yeah, you did.
01:13 <guru3> probably having ->show isn't the best idea
01:13 <z-man> And you also produced memory leaks by just tNEWing  config items.
01:13 <guru3> :<
01:13 <guru3> i had no idea how to work around that one
01:13 <z-man> I was thinking of just giving servers with friends on higher priority.
01:13 <guru3> i thought of that too afterwards
01:14 <guru3> but i sort of like the idea of filtering
01:14 <guru3> because then if the ping is > cutoff you can just chop those off the list
01:14 <guru3> it's sort of neat to see the not responding servers, but there are starting to be a lot of them
01:14 <z-man> They SHOULD be purged quickly.
01:15 <z-man> never figured out why that does not work for everyone as well as it does for me.
01:15 <guru3> the game respects you ;)
01:16 <z-man> Yeah, it knows that whenever it shows me a bug, I kick it until the bug is fixed :)
01:16  * z-man learned the russian school of programming
01:16 <guru3> i just wind up digging myself into bigger and bigger holes
01:16 <guru3> started out with nice simple idea... then i got a segfault so i changed it... now i keep getting more segfaults
01:17 <z-man> They are my fault, I'm sure.
01:17 <guru3> i was also wondering if i did it correct getting the sg_enableFriends var with a global function
01:17 <z-man> Yes, that bit works fine.
01:17 <guru3> i simply could not figure out how to get at it from gServerBrowser with out accidentally making two of them
01:18 <z-man> Oh, you do know that tString::Len() returns the length PLUS ONE?
01:18 <z-man> Silly legacy from pre-std::string days
01:18 <z-man> once 0.2.8 is dead, we should get rid of the function.
01:18 <guru3> it's... in a lot of places
01:18 <z-man> I think you have a test for tString::Len() != 0 somewhere that always passes
01:18 <guru3> a string.Len would always be > 0 then
01:19 <z-man> right.
01:19 <guru3> i have for > 0
01:19 <z-man> Yep. Always passes.
01:19 <guru3> friends[i].Len() > 0
01:19 <guru3> that would work better as a > 1
01:19 <z-man> :)
01:19 <guru3> with there actually being a bug in StrPos
01:20 <guru3> i wouldn't be surprised if it actually had to do with that
01:20 <guru3> as i'm pretty sure i didn't realize that when i wrote it
01:20 <guru3> oh lol, Len()-1
01:20 <guru3> i bet i just copied that from somewhere
01:23 <guru3> well i'm pleased to report that even with > 1 it still segfaults
01:26 <guru3> valgrind confirms that gFriends is loosing memory
01:26 <guru3> it also happily reports that SDL does it as well
01:28 <guru3> ah right i remember why i used tNEW there
01:28 <guru3> i couldn't figure out how to have an array of configuration items
01:30 <z-man> Yeah, that's not possible with a plain array
01:30 <z-man> I added an array of std::auto_ptrs for that.
01:30 <guru3> clever
01:30 <z-man> No, standard :)
01:31 <guru3> it's clever when you're not exactly on top of the ball for c++
01:31 <guru3> i'm not on the ball at all. the ball is rolling behind me and i'm running away
01:31 <z-man> heh
01:31 <z-man> but that means you got past the poison arrows
01:32 <guru3> i came up with the idea and wrote something that half works
01:32 <guru3> so it's like... i got the little statue
01:32 <z-man> It's my fault that it doesn't, really
01:32 <guru3> i didn't do any of the language stuff yet
01:32 <z-man> the problem is that the function that updates the menu is called from the menu rendering code
01:32  * z-man shall fix that, it may even crash without your friends code
01:33 <guru3> i'm sure there's something with initialization of those strings
01:34 <guru3> i just came up with a way to test that
01:34  * guru3 waits for it to compile with the debugging flag
01:34 <guru3> that takes a while -_-
01:36 <guru3> it still crashes anyway
01:36 <guru3> :<
01:36 <guru3> 0x00002b0abcbc9fa2 in __gnu_cxx::__exchange_and_add () from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.so.6
01:37 <guru3> doesn't crash in Len() anymore
01:38 <guru3> i like your menu idea more
01:38 <guru3> i don't understand at all how it's the case
01:38 <guru3> but i believe it now
01:41 <z-man> Well, its the classic bug of a list getting altered while someone else is trying to read it.
01:41 <z-man> the order of calls is:
01:41 <z-man> Menu gets rendered
01:41 <z-man> menu renders menu items
01:41 <z-man> menu item calls function in menu to update the list of menu items
01:41 <z-man> and if that kills the menu item that is just rendered, kaboom.
01:44 <guru3> so when it's building up the list of gServerMenuItms
01:44 <guru3> it's also trying to read that list
01:47 <z-man> right.
01:48 <z-man> I moved the call to the Update() function into a saner callstack and get no more crashes.
01:49 <z-man> Well, I think this is something for Would make some people happy.
01:49 <guru3> ok by me
01:49 <guru3> i just was trying to avoid studying for exams
01:49 <z-man> heh
01:49 <guru3> and happened to have a good idea :>
01:49 <z-man> indeed.
01:49 <guru3> "good" in the sense that i could reasonably do it
01:50  * z-man makes "," his friend.
01:50 <z-man> and " ".
01:50 <z-man> Oh, one last problem, by default, f is bound to fullscreen toggle.
01:50 <guru3> yeah i saw that
01:51 <guru3> we could rename friends buddies
01:51 <z-man> b for buddy is taken too
01:51 <guru3> and put ourselves in for a lawsuit with aol
01:51 <z-man> for bookmark.
01:51 <guru3> but yes there's that
01:51 <guru3> i was thinking f for "filter"
01:51 <z-man> pals
01:51 <guru3> and then eventually could do other filters
01:51 <guru3> p pings the server
01:51 <z-man> darn, p = ping already
01:51 <guru3> and updates that particular one
01:51 <guru3> m for mates?
01:51 <z-man> homies?
01:51 <guru3> that'd work too
01:51 <z-man> mates is better.
01:52 <guru3> homies makes me smile more though ><
01:52 <guru3> the homies patch for armagetron :D
01:52 <guru3> ><
01:53 <z-man> We could do a poll :)
01:53 <guru3> is it on purpose that the keybinds don't work until the menu text pops up?
01:53 <z-man> No, those binds that should work before that should go to the menu event handler.
01:54  * z-man moved the friend toggle there already
01:54 <guru3> i see the troublesome Update call now
01:54 <guru3> i think
01:54 <guru3> in RenderBackground
01:54 <z-man> Yeah.
01:56 <guru3> so that gets called in the middle of the polling
01:57 <guru3> ahh yes i get it
01:57 <guru3> it does the update and then tries to write the menu
02:00 <guru3> i can't figure out where RenderBackground actually gets called
02:00 <guru3> -_-
02:01 <z-man> Put a breakpoint into it and see.
02:01 <z-man> It comes from gServerMenuItem::Renderbackground
02:02 <z-man> that comes from uMenu::Enter directly, I think.
02:02 <guru3> ah
02:03 <guru3> i'm going to try and write a lock
02:08 <z-man> lock?
02:08 <guru3> just a bool that makes all render functions return when it's set
02:08 <guru3> and set it when Update is being called
02:09 <z-man> no, don't do that
02:09 <z-man> I've already fixed the path over which the Update function is called.
02:09 <guru3> okay
02:09 <z-man> There is now an OnRender() virtual in uMenu that is called before the rendering process is started.
02:10 <z-man> And that is overridden in gServerMenu.
02:10 <guru3> gotcha
02:11 <guru3> is there a default global keybind for h?
02:11 <guru3> m for mates and the h for hiding unreachable servers
02:11 <guru3> *and then
02:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7519 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ui/ (uMenu.cpp uMenu.h): Added OnRender() function that is called before the menuitems are rendered.
02:12 <z-man> Both should be free.
02:19 <guru3> adding in the language stuff here
02:23 <z-man> So, shall I just commit what I have done so you can work directly on it?
02:25 <z-man> Hey, if the -tron ending makes trademark trouble, we could rename to Armagetrino :)
02:25 <guru3> lol
02:25 <guru3> ah yeah right, about comitting
02:25 <guru3> can i commit what i have first?
02:25 <guru3> i have trouble dealing with conflicts
02:25 <guru3> more like, i wouldn't understand some of your bits too
02:25 <z-man> Did you work on the trunk?
02:26 <guru3> yeah
02:26 <z-man> umm, I was working on 0.2.8 directly.
02:26 <guru3> well there wouldn't be any conflicts there -_-
02:26 <z-man> No :)
02:26 <z-man> can you just post another patch?
02:27 <z-man> I can handle things from there, then.
02:27 <z-man> But not tonight, needs to sleep.
02:27 <z-man> Why do evenings always end like this nowadays?
02:27 <guru3> yeah i'm staying up super late too
02:28 <guru3> oh here's a clever question
02:28 <guru3> in the GPL notice for gFriends.*
02:28 <guru3> should i change the copyright date?
02:28 <z-man> Yeah, sure.
02:28 <luke-jr> makes sense
02:29 <z-man> It's the start of the 75 years or so copyright period, so we should always update it or it will run out before we're finished :)
02:29 <luke-jr> haha
02:30 <luke-jr> z-man: !
02:30 <luke-jr> where should I store handles? :þ
02:30 <guru3> do one word language strings work?
02:31 <z-man> guru3: sure.
02:31 <z-man> luke-jr: what handles, and why do you ask me that at 2:30 in the morning, expecting a smart answer?
02:31 <guru3> it's not working for me -_-
02:31 <luke-jr> z-man: handles for the XMPP session
02:31 <luke-jr> so it would be per local player
02:31 <guru3> might be how i'm doing it though
02:32 <luke-jr> or per instance, in the case of no auth'd users or a server
02:32 <z-man> the server definitely needs a handle in ePlayerNetID.
02:32 <z-man> it's all it has.
02:33 <z-man> Can't see why the client can't use the same handle structure.
02:35 <guru3> name = "$friend "; <--- it doesn't like that
02:35 <z-man> ah, you need to do
02:35 <z-man> name = tOutput("$friend");
02:35 <z-man> the conversion is not automatic, sadly.
02:37 <guru3> well that was unexpected
02:37 <guru3> now istead of $friend
02:37 <guru3> it just shows friend
02:37 <luke-jr> z-man: is there 1 ePlayerNetID per player, or per connection?
02:37 <z-man> per player.
02:37 <z-man> guru3: have you updated the language file?
02:38 <guru3> ywa
02:38 <guru3> yes
02:38 <z-man> ooh, i don't know.
02:38  * z-man shuts down.
02:38 <guru3> im trying with a two word thing now instead
02:39 <guru3> well that worked
02:39 <guru3> i changed about 3 things at once
02:39 <guru3> so i don't know what did it really
02:39 <guru3> but it works
02:43 <guru3> i've posted the latest & greatest from here
02:44 <guru3> (onto the forums)
02:46  * z-man will look at it some time tomorrow
02:46 <guru3> grand
02:46 <guru3> finally i've written something again for armagetron :D
02:46 <guru3> i can go to sleep for another year now ;)
02:50 <luke-jr> lol
03:04 <luke-jr> is C++ smart enough to let me pass obj->func as a function pointer?
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03:09 <zmanuel> luke-jr: no. You'd need to use class::func, which will probably be the wrong kind of function pointer.
03:10 <luke-jr> that's what I thought
03:10 <zmanuel> in boost, there is a way to generate function pointer like objects from things like obj->func that would behave like you expect (the obj pointer is stored in them)
03:10 <luke-jr> so I'll just use the void* user data to pass 'this'
03:10 <zmanuel> yeah.
03:10 <zmanuel> however, those boost objects cannot be converted to function pointers.
03:10  * zmanuel powers off
03:11  * luke-jr mutters about C++ reserving 'this'
03:12  * zmanuel mutters back about C reserving "for" and "int"
03:13 <luke-jr> pretty sure you could redefine int at leasgt
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04:49 <luke-jr> ../aa_config.h:179:1: warning: "PACKAGE_VERSION" redefined
04:49 <luke-jr> that's annoying :x
04:58 <luke-jr> hey "ANONYMOUS", for unauthenticated guest access
04:58 <luke-jr> I wonder if any XMPP servers support that
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06:48 <Stewie-arma> hmmm, long time no see everyone
06:52 <luke-jr> O.o
06:55 <Stewie-arma> oh hai luke-jr
06:55 <luke-jr> hi
06:55 <Stewie-arma> did I miss many of your rambles?
06:56 <Stewie-arma> any religion talks?
06:56 <Stewie-arma> I am taking conformation classes...
06:57 <luke-jr> what are you conforming to?
07:12 <GodTodd> catholocism, silly :)
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08:04 <luke-jr> hm
08:05 <luke-jr> ePlayerNetID doesn't seem to be created for a servre
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10:36 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7520 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ui/uMenu.cpp: Better ordering for the OnRender() call.
10:56 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7522 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/macosx/English.lproj/: Merging from 0.2.8
11:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7523 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (22 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed)
11:24 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7453 to 7520:
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11:24 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7520 | z-man | 2008-01-16 10:39:56 +0100 (Wed, 16 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
11:24 <armabot> armagetronad:  Better ordering for the OnRender() call.
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11:24 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7519 | z-man | 2008-01-16 02:15:54 +0100 (Wed, 16 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
11:25 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7524 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Rebeautified.
11:25 <z-man> Odd, svn told me the merge failed.
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11:40 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7525 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
11:40 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7520 to 7524:
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11:40 <armabot> armagetronad:  Rebeautified.
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12:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7526 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (tron/gServerBrowser.cpp ui/uMenu.cpp): Crashfix for the server browser.
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12:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7527 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (tron/gServerBrowser.cpp ui/uMenu.cpp):
12:11 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7524 to 7526:
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12:11 <armabot> armagetronad:  Crashfix for the server browser.
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14:04 <wrtlprnft> a crash in the server browser?
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14:17 <guru3> yeah
14:17 <guru3> that's my fault -_-
14:22 <wrtlprnft> was it in 0.2.8 or did it get introduced after
14:24 <guru3> it was a by product of the way i did the server filtering
14:24 <guru3> so it's in 0.2.8 and trunk
14:24 <guru3> and everything probably going back to
14:24 <guru3> *0.2.5_alpha even
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14:32 <wrtlprnft> o_O
14:32 <wrtlprnft> the server browser never crashed for me, so it must have been well-hidden
14:32 <guru3> z-man described it as something along the lines of editing an array while reading it
14:33 <guru3> it just never crashed before because the array always stayed the same size
14:33 <guru3> i however went and changed its size
14:33 <guru3> promptly segfaulting it
14:42 <wrtlprnft> ah
14:43 <guru3> the big "Server Browser" title isn't a language string Oo
14:43 <wrtlprnft> if you keep pointers/references/iterators to the elements it'll segfault :)
14:44 <wrtlprnft> there's a couple of things that should be
14:56 <z-man> I only made those things language strings that needed a German translation :)
14:56 <guru3> ah
14:56 <z-man> Feel free to correct it.
14:57 <guru3> trying to sort out something on the server browser
14:57 <guru3> that tells you if filtering is on or not
14:58 <z-man> So people don't go "wtf? where are the servers gone?"?
14:58 <guru3> that and in the case of the list taking a long time to load
14:59 <guru3> it's just the best place, under "Server Browser" isn't very possible
14:59 <guru3> as that's a menu heading and it goes off into the uMenu code calculating position and whatnot, i think
14:59 <guru3> so i was thinking next to Server Name
14:59 <guru3> have a dash and then an enabled bit there
15:00 <z-man> That might mess up the table header layout
15:00 <guru3> it doesn't
15:00 <guru3> not at 640x480 or 1280x1024
15:00 <z-man> ah, right, plenty of space because we leave it for long server names :)
15:00 <guru3> yup
15:02 <guru3> the problem now is
15:02 <guru3> you can't really go from a tString to a tOutput
15:02 <guru3> and you can't use tOutputs with spaces in them
15:04 <guru3> and you can't << with tOutputs
15:22 <guru3> changed the function call instead
15:22 <guru3> now afk for food
15:29 <luke-jr> z-man: ePlayerNetID doesn't seem to be created for a servre
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15:34  * luke-jr ponders why arma ignores SIGTERM and SIGINT
15:39 <wrtlprnft> o_O
15:39 <wrtlprnft> didn't use to
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15:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: only the server, maybe
15:42 <luke-jr> and only under certain conditions O.o
15:42 <luke-jr> I recall it being a problem with my old scripts, but only on Gentoo
15:42 <luke-jr> they SIGTERM'd the server fine on Debian
15:46 <luke-jr> wtf
15:46 <luke-jr> there's snow in trunk :þ
16:05 <luke-jr> z-man: what is a nBasicNetworkSystem supposed to represent?
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16:54 <z-man> luke-jr: ePlayerNetID only represents a player or AI, so naturally, none is created at the program start.
16:54 <z-man> nBasicNetworkSystem is a basic network system :)
16:55 <z-man> It holds the sockets server and clients communicate with.
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17:08 <z-man> And about the signals, I only register a handler for SIGCONT. The other signals are untouched, so should be at default behavior.
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17:57 <luke-jr> z-man: any easy way to get 1 per local player, with at least 1 globally? ☺
17:58 <luke-jr> #rating g5vc
17:58 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
17:58 <armabot> luke-jr: g5vc is 424th with a rating of 1542-1674 (from 1542-1673)
17:58 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 426th with a rating of 1542-1573 (from 1543-1574)
17:58 <luke-jr> g5vc: pwnt
17:58 <luke-jr> almost :x
17:58 <g5vc> i dont playing.
17:58 <g5vc> :)
17:58 <g5vc> so somebody used my nick :O
17:58 <luke-jr> g5vc: you never play?
17:58 <g5vc> nevah.
17:58 <g5vc> :)
17:59 <luke-jr> #aka g5vc
17:59 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3954 g5vc
18:00 <z-man> luke-jr: nope.
18:06 <luke-jr> z-man: by "basic network system", is that inclusive of all network activity, or just client<->server?
18:07 <luke-jr> z-man: eg, when/if resource fetching becomes async, will it go in there?
18:08 <z-man> How should I know? It certainly can go there.
18:08 <z-man> Although I'd suggest putting advanced stuff in a derived class.
18:08 <z-man> I was planning to manage client connections and all the other now-static data in nNetwork in a derived class one day.
18:27 <luke-jr> well, my concern is how to get the XMPP stuff into the select/read loop
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19:57 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r7528 /www/mainsite/ (archive.php index.php): some new news to show we're still alive
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r7529 /www/mainsite/screenshots.php: screenshots page updated for shots in fortress, sumo, and ctf modes
20:34 <eddiefantastic> who
20:35 <eddiefantastic> guru3: you want some screenshots from ctwf, none of your screenshots show decent use of mapping
20:38 <guru3> sure i guess
20:46 <eddiefantastic> ok, give me a day or 2. I'll find you some styball ones too. Although you wont find a styball server up these days
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22:46 <madmax> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/compiler_complaint.png
23:01 <z-man> Heh, let's see how many players leave servers, their last word being "sohwhahtahnahssiam"
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23:13 <z-man> madmax: heh.
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23:23 <luke-jr> z-man: btw, software rendering kills ping somehow :þ
23:23 <z-man> really?
23:23 <luke-jr> and with hardware rendering, that quick-exit-crash bug is gone
23:23 <luke-jr> yeah
23:24  * z-man checks whether the multithreading network code is still active
23:24 <luke-jr> by "kills" I mean doubles
23:26 <vinavil> epsy: hello, how is it doing? should i draw th map?
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23:29 <vinavil> epsy:
23:30 <vinavil> did you work on it?
23:30 <z-man> luke-jr: could you try disabling the call to rSysDep::StartNetSyncThread() in gGame.cpp
23:31 <luke-jr> err?
23:31 <z-man> that disables the extra networking thread.
23:32 <luke-jr> o
23:32 <luke-jr> well, my development system is headless atm…
23:32 <luke-jr> :x
23:32 <epsy> vinavil, ah i couldn'T have time for it, but yeah, anyway, draw the map
23:32 <z-man> Well, then try it next time you get a chance :)
23:33 <vinavil> epsy: oh, ok. no problem
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00:07 <K-Yo> #roulette
00:07 <armabot> K-Yo: *click*
00:07 <K-Yo> #roulette
00:07 <armabot> K-Yo: *click*
00:07 <K-Yo> #roulette
00:07 <armabot> K-Yo: *click*
00:07 <K-Yo> #roulette
00:07 <armabot> K-Yo: *click*
00:07 <K-Yo> #roulette
00:07 <armabot> K-Yo: *click*
00:07 <K-Yo> #roulette
00:07 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:07  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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02:10 <Hoax-> :D
02:11 <Angel-H> hi hoaxy :P
02:11 <flex> greetings :p
02:11 <Hoax-> hey
02:11 <Angel-H> hi flex :P
02:12 <guru3> actually playing some tron, i'm reminded of how annoying camping is -_-
02:12 <Angel-H> where are you playing ?
02:12 <Hoax-> lastseen tank
02:12 <Hoax-> oof
02:12 <guru3> someplace called the tavern or something like that
02:13 <Angel-H> :P you want the pass to kick the campers ?
02:13 <Hoax-> go kick them angel
02:13 <guru3> no, that's ok
02:13 <guru3> i'm winning anyway :)
02:13 <Angel-H> :)
02:13 <vinavil> is tank playing?
02:13 <guru3> seems i've been lucky and caught a server full of noobs
02:13 <vinavil> i'm coming
02:13 <Angel-H> it cant be that full of noobs, im not there
02:14 <guru3> well the noobs seem to be going away and good people showing up, blast them
02:14 <Hoax->  lets all go & beat him :D
02:14 <Angel-H> lol
02:14 <guru3> you can try ;)
02:14 <flex> wtf kyle kicked me
02:14 <Hoax-> hahaha
02:14 <Angel-H> ok, all on tank
02:16 <flex> lal hoax i knew that
02:16 <Hoax-> hehe
02:16 <luke-jr> O.O
02:16 <luke-jr> #rating guru3
02:17 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'guru3'!
02:17 <luke-jr> #rating "Tank Program"
02:17 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'tank_program'!
02:17 <luke-jr> Angel-H: hey, are you the same Angel I knew/know?
02:18 <luke-jr> what's with all these rare people coming on IRC suddenly? :o
02:18 <guru3> "rare"
02:18 <luke-jr> guru3: not you
02:18 <guru3> no need to say it like they're endangered
02:18 <luke-jr> flex, Angel-H, Hoax-
02:18 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma earlier
02:19 <Hoax-> i told flex to come here, sorry
02:19 <luke-jr> lol
02:19 <Hoax-> :D
02:20 <guru3> the real question i'm asking myself
02:20 <guru3> is why am i playing tron at 1:20 am
02:21 <luke-jr> lol
02:23 <guru3> you can sleep at 1:20
02:29 <guru3> all these people popping out of no where all of a sudden -_-
02:29 <Hoax-> LOL angel after you left some player said 'angel was a man, i know it'
02:29 <Angel-H> lmao :P
02:29 <guru3> someone's implying that you had a sex change operation
02:30 <Angel-H> its not as if i can afford one :P
02:30 <guru3> at least that's how i read it
02:30 <Angel-H> well kill him lots for me :)
02:31 <guru3> i'm having trouble killing anyone now
02:32 <Angel-H> lol im like the kiss of death to a server
02:32 <flex> there's no proof that she's a he so I can't say he's wrong :p
02:32 <flex> he--she, she--he
02:33 <Hoax-> no guy would be that rubbish on the grid.
02:33 <flex> lal
02:33 <Angel-H> omg lol you both want slapping
02:33 <guru3> it'd be a terribly ellaborate facade
02:33 <Hoax-> :D
02:33 <guru3> i mean really, really, ellaborate
02:36 <Angel-H> how come no one ever accuses a guy of being female ?
02:36 <guru3> because all lies have a base in reality
02:36 <guru3> that just never actually happens in realtiy
02:36 <flex> i get accused a lot, thank you very much.
02:37 <luke-jr> a guy can't be female
02:37 <luke-jr> not that a female could really be male…
02:37 <Angel-H> ive known guys pretend to be female on arma and other games
02:37 <flex> i have a female character on wow
02:37 <flex> she's quite nice
02:38 <Angel-H> lol im sure she is
02:42 <guru3> almost no one looks ahead while they play
02:42 <guru3> poo
02:43 <guru3> aramagetrno just segfaulted on me
02:43 <guru3> i guess it's a sign
02:43 <guru3> i'm off, good night
02:43 <Angel-H> night :)
02:44 <vinavil> night
02:44 <vinavil> that matt is boring
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04:05 <flex> luke
04:05 <Stewie-arma> oh no, luke isn't here -.-
04:06 <flex> what's the command again to find where someone is ingame
04:07 <Hoax-> lastseen flex
04:07 <flex> sweet
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen flex
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: flex has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 4 minutes ago.
04:07 <flex> #lastseen hoax
04:07 <armabot> flex: ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 39 minutes ago.
04:07 <flex> lol
04:08 <Stewie-arma> you guys play with no rubber?
04:08 <flex> well that's the only no rubber server I think
04:09 <Hoax-> nah theres one called pirate something too
04:10 <flex> no server that contains the word pirate on my server list
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06:04 <Hoax-> #roulette
06:04 <armabot> Hoax-: *click*
06:04 <Hoax-> #roulette
06:04 <armabot> Hoax-: *click*
06:04 <Hoax-> #roulette
06:04 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:04  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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06:16 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:16 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
06:17 <Stewie-arma> phew that was a close one
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06:23 <flex> #roulette
06:23 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:23 <flex> #roulette
06:23 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:23  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:23 <flex> #roulette
06:23 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:23 <flex> #roulette
06:23 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:23 <flex> #roulette
06:23 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:23 <flex> #roulette
06:23 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:24 <flex> your turn Stewie
06:25 <flex> Stewie-arma!
06:26 <Vanhayes> #roulette
06:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
06:26 <flex> lol
06:27 <flex> how many chambers does it actually have..
06:28 <Vanhayes> 6
06:29 <Vanhayes> next one shoots
06:30 <flex> ct|kyle
06:30 <flex> take your shot!
06:30 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:30 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:31 <Vanhayes> #list alias
06:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, roulette, 42, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, cters, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, (3 more messages)
06:31 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:31 <flex> #roulette
06:31 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:31 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:31  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:31 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:31 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:31 <flex> how comes you don't get kicked
06:31 <flex> that's gay
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:32 <flex> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:32  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:32 <flex> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:32 <flex> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:32 <Vanhayes> armabot needs to be oped for her to kick you
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32 <flex> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:32 <flex> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:32 <armabot> flex: *click*
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:32  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:32 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:32  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:33 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:33 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:33  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:33 <ct|kyle> ya 3 in a row
06:33 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:33 <flex> you know Vanhayes i still use your cockpit
06:33 <flex> have you upgraded yours?
06:33 <Vanhayes> #eliza Did you miss me?
06:33 <flex> or still same
06:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: What do you think?
06:33 <ct|kyle> #roulette
06:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
06:34 <Vanhayes> well im using the new 0.2.8 right now, and I dont have access to me old pcc, so its basic hud for me
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06:37 <flex> oh nice, there's some new ones on the cockpit list
06:40 <Vanhayes> heh, i like rainès its not distracting at all
06:41 <flex> haha yeah, i'm just trying that out now
06:43 <flex> I'm going to add speed to it though, kinda need that
06:43 <flex> or well fastest
06:43 <Vanhayes> hmm, you cant use cockpits with the new 0.2.8 can you?
06:43 <flex> i don't think so
06:44 <flex> i thought cockpits were only incorporated into the v3
06:45 <Vanhayes> probably, Im not too sure whats new with this version though
06:46 <flex> oh yeah, I remember, I did try cockpit on version 2.x but it never worked
06:48 <Vanhayes> heh, I forgot I made a map too
06:48 <flex> you did?
06:49 <Vanhayes> ya, a long while ago, forgot all about it
06:49 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Vanhayes/fortress/double_fortress-1.aamap.xml
06:50 <Vanhayes> I was trying to make half a team spawn on each side, but it wasnt working right for some reason
06:50 <flex> yeah thought about that
06:50 <flex> how thin is that middle lol
06:51 <Vanhayes> hmm, i think its 2 or 3 squares wide
06:53 <Vanhayes> so, anything big change in the last few months with arma?
06:53 <flex> I have no idea, I've been away for afew months too
06:54 <Vanhayes> heh, nevermind then :)
06:54 <flex> I assume nothing
06:55 <Vanhayes> well the new 0.2.8 version has a couple new things ive seen so far
06:56 <flex> when was 2.8 released..
06:57 <Vanhayes> the new 0.2.8 was released a few weeks ago I think
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07:13 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:13 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:13  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:13 <MrBougo> #roulette
07:13 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:13  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:13 <MrBougo> blah
07:15 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
07:15 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
07:15 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:15 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:15  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:15 <flex> Vanhayes, what I got now is basically rains cockpit with your speed & brake meter plus "fastest:"
07:15 <flex> moved the enemies&friends down to the bottom
07:19 <Vanhayes> i was thinking about trying to make all of the, then current cockpits into one cockpit that you used the cockpit buttons to switch between
07:19 <Vanhayes> but then I forgot about it, and moved
07:20 <flex> ah, that would be a nice idea
07:22 <flex> I assume you just gotta be in the menu section for it to reload to the different cockpits
07:23 <Vanhayes> well since you can make a certain cockpit button change settings from off to on, you could make one cockpit set to on by default then when it is off it changes to the nextcockpit
07:25 <Vanhayes> like with mine, there are impact meters off by default with no settings set to their on mode
07:26 <flex> but that's the hud you're talking about right? you probably know more, I might be wrong but cockpits are different to the settings with the hud in 2.x
07:27 <Vanhayes> well i think the settings are the same you just cant change them in 0.2.8, anyways i meant doing it for 0.3
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07:33 <flex> still sounds like a decent idea
07:34 <flex> would make it much easier to change cockpits to the user preference
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07:42 <Vanhayes8> #rating vanhayes
07:43 <armabot> Vanhayes8: vanhayes is 2740th with a rating of 1325-1447 (from 1150-1850)
07:43 <Vanhayes8> #rating vanhayes
07:43 <armabot> Vanhayes8: vanhayes is 2740th with a rating of 1325-1447 (from 1150-1850)
07:50 <flex> #rating flex
07:50 <armabot> flex: flex is 572nd with a rating of 1522-1552 (from 1506-1602)
07:56 <Vanhayes8> what are the ratings from
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11:01 <luke-jr> …
11:06 <Vanhayes> ,,,
11:25 <flex> '''
11:28 <Vanhayes> ...
11:28 <Vanhayes> 20acéà
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15:13 <luke-jr> #rating madmax
15:13 <armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 135th with a rating of 1604-1643 (from 1607-1640)
15:16 <madmax> luke-jr: how did you see that for a specific server?
15:17 <luke-jr> madmax: hum, you don't right now
15:18 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr test
15:18 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'luke-jr_test'!
15:18  * luke-jr ponders
15:18 <luke-jr> #help rating
15:18 <armabot> luke-jr: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
15:18 <luke-jr> #format concat a b c
15:18 <armabot> luke-jr: ab c
15:19 <madmax> wait, I meant a top 25 of a specific server
15:19 <luke-jr> #alias add rating2 "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $1]][format concat &name=[urlquote @2]]]"
15:19 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
15:19 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/*eclipsed
15:19 <luke-jr> #rating2 madmax eclipsed
15:20 <armabot> luke-jr:  is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850
15:20 <luke-jr> #rating2 eclipsed madmax
15:20 <armabot> luke-jr:  is 410th with a rating of 1150-1850
15:20 <luke-jr> hm
15:20 <luke-jr> I don't think that's working
15:20 <madmax> lol
15:20 <luke-jr> #alias add rating2 "echo web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $1]][format concat &name=[urlquote @2]]]"
15:20 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
15:20 <luke-jr> #rating2 eclipsed madmax
15:20 <armabot> web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=eclipsed&name=
15:20 <luke-jr> nope
15:21 <luke-jr> #alias add rating2 "echo web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $1]][format concat &name=[urlquote $2]]]"
15:21 <luke-jr> #rating2 eclipsed madmax
15:21 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
15:21 <armabot> web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=eclipsed&name=madmax
15:21 <luke-jr> #alias add rating2 "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]]"
15:21 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
15:22 <luke-jr> #rating2 madmax eclipsed
15:22 <armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 410th with a rating of 1150-1850
15:22  * madmax notes he hasn't played there
15:22 <luke-jr> so where
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15:23 <madmax> #rating2 madmax cafe
15:23 <armabot> madmax: madmax is 20th with a rating of 1600-1639 (from 1603-1636) on cafe
15:23 <madmax> guess it works
15:23 <luke-jr> ☺
15:23 <madmax> heh, on the cafe ratings there's a nick in 10th which I played a match and scored 32+
15:24 <luke-jr> wd
15:24 <madmax> shouldn't that be out of the stats? :P
15:24 <luke-jr> ?
15:25 <madmax> I mean, less importance. consistency vs "one time thing"
15:25 <luke-jr> ⁇?
15:28 <luke-jr> you have a relatively low volatility, it looks
15:30 <madmax> on ed's ladders you have to play 100 rounds or something before you get rated. I was talking about the same thing with that nick I played
15:35 <vinavil> yesterday night  during the fights in the tavern i started to single bind
15:36 <vinavil> i think i'm keeping this as i kept no brake for a little while
15:37 <luke-jr> madmax: I don't get what you're asking
15:37 <luke-jr> vinavil: play with mouse
15:37 <vinavil> i always play with my trackball :)
15:38 <vinavil> indeed when i double bind i play with both trackball and keyboard
15:38 <luke-jr> :þ
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16:12 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13
16:12 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13 is 730th with a rating of 1501-1577 (from 1502-1576)
16:13 <g5vc> #rating luke-jr
16:13 <armabot> g5vc: luke-jr is 413th with a rating of 1544-1578 (from 1542-1573)
16:13 <luke-jr> #rating g5vc
16:13 <armabot> luke-jr: g5vc is 431st with a rating of 1541-1675 (from 1542-1674)
16:13 <g5vc> i still dont played
16:13 <g5vc> :D
16:13 <luke-jr> you did some time
16:13 <g5vc> nowai
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16:19  * vinavil wants 2 rubber sumo
16:19 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@6.25-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
16:20  * madmax wants 0 rubber fortress
16:20 <MrBougo> * madmax is mad
16:20  * madmax greets MrBougo 
16:21  * MrBougo returns the greets
16:21  * vinavil greets bougo too (the both)
16:23 <MrBougo> ?
16:30 <GodTodd> #rating luke-jr's dick
16:30 <armabot> GodTodd: I don't know anything about 'luke-jr's_dick'!
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16:49 <MrBougo> GodTodd: <3
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17:45 <epsy> hai
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17:57 <luke-jr> z-man: why are we giving away the cheat now? :|
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19:11 <z-man> luke-jr: we're not, tank can't edit the post, and I have to assume he also can't lock the thread so it can get buried over time.
19:11  * z-man hopes no inexperienced players try the "Grue" or "Cockatrice" options
19:11 <luke-jr> z-man: bs, he can hack the db
19:12 <z-man> He can? I don't know how locking and posts are stored, so I can't judge.
19:24 <luke-jr> boolean and text
19:25 <vinavil> i've tried the Cockatrice, it doesn't seem so exiting
19:26 <vinavil> i just wonder if i had to set on the option "fly"
19:28  * vinavil invites madmax in FTS
19:29 <madmax> heh sorry, can't
19:30 <vinavil> sigh sob
19:30 <vinavil> any other 2 rubber single bind lover?
19:32 <luke-jr> so how many of us are prepared for tomorrow?
19:36 <vinavil> what for?
19:36 <luke-jr> y2k38
19:38 <GodTodd> wtf year are you in?
19:38 <GodTodd> where i am 2038 is 30 years away
19:38 <luke-jr> exactly
19:39 <GodTodd> ...which is *not* tomorrow
19:39 <luke-jr> ever hear of 30 year loans?
19:39 <GodTodd> gee, no, since we own a home, i never have
19:41 <GodTodd> so...you saying that something will go wrong if you go for a 30 year loan tomorrow?
19:41 <luke-jr> dunno
19:41 <luke-jr> depends on if they prepared
19:42 <GodTodd> heh
19:42 <luke-jr> and recompiled their servers with 64-bit time_t
19:42 <GodTodd> typical fundie fearmongering :)
19:43 <GodTodd> to say that multi-billion dollar companies haven't begun preparing for possible software failures long before they potentially could happen is asinine
19:44 <luke-jr> by that logic, Windows would be perfect
19:45 <z-man> It is :)
19:45  * z-man ducks
19:45 <GodTodd> no...they introduce software failures
19:45 <vinavil> cought
19:45 <GodTodd> big difference :)
19:45 <GodTodd> so...unless you go to microsoft for your loan you should be fine
19:47 <GodTodd> and it's actually 1/*19*
19:47 <GodTodd> not tomorrow anyway
19:47 <luke-jr> => "Mon Jan 18 19:14:07 2038 PST"
19:48 <GodTodd> http://www.2038bug.com/
19:49 <GodTodd> The latest time that can be represented in this format, following the POSIX standard, is 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, January 19, 2038.
19:49 <GodTodd> gotta be global :)
19:49 <luke-jr> pfft
19:49 <luke-jr> GodTodd: AOL too
19:49 <GodTodd> specially since you're a japanese citizen trapped in an american body
19:49 <luke-jr> they already have been having problems
19:50 <GodTodd> when has aol *not* had problems
19:50 <luke-jr> …. ok, you win
19:50 <GodTodd> #quote add [12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win
19:50 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:51 <GodTodd> #quote add [12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win
19:51 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.  Quote #68 added.
19:51 <GodTodd> :D
19:51 <luke-jr> …
19:52 <GodTodd> hey...you admitting someone else is right is a kodak moment
19:52 <GodTodd> anytime it happens
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7534 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7526 to 7533:
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7533 | z-man | 2008-01-17 16:35:34 +0100 (Thu, 17 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  Applied 3.1 friends patch.
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7532 | z-man | 2008-01-17 14:42:28 +0100 (Thu, 17 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
20:39 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7535 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (16 files in 6 dirs): The yearly game of eliminating all warnings a new version of GCC brings, this time version 4.2.2
20:39 <z-man> Let's see how well that merges to the trunk.
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21:10 <z-man> What an odd warning, someone tries to instantiate tPolynomial< nMessage >....
21:11 <guru3> that... sounds odd... i guess...
21:12 <z-man> ah, the template parameter does not mean what I think it does :)
21:12 <z-man> It's a persistence object.
21:12 <z-man> Odd to build this as a full template if you ask me.
21:13 <z-man> ah, wrtls work :) He loves templates.
21:14 <z-man> ../../../../armagetronad/src/tron/zone/zValidator.cpp: In member function 'void zValidator::validate(gVectorExtra<short unsigned int>&, gVectorExtra<short unsigned int>&, Triggerer, miscDataPtr&)':
21:14 <z-man> ../../../../armagetronad/src/tron/zone/zValidator.cpp:112: warning: passing 'float' for argument 1 to 'tPolynomial<T>::tPolynomial(int) [with T = nMessage]'
21:14 <z-man> ../../../../armagetronad/src/tron/zone/zValidator.cpp:121: warning: passing 'float' for argument 1 to 'tPolynomial<T>::tPolynomial(int) [with T = nMessage]'
21:15 <z-man> wrtlprnft: could you have a look at these two lines?
21:15 <z-man> looks to me like they are not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
21:16 <z-man> I think they want to create a polygon with a constant value, but create one of zero value (I hope) and variable number of coefficients.
21:17 <guru3> looks like worst nightmare sort of stuff to me -_-
21:18 <z-man> It would be without compiler warnings.
21:19 <z-man> I'll put them up on the forum.
21:19 <guru3> stuff like that makes the things i write look nice and simple
21:24 <z-man> your stuff certainly is less error prone.
21:24 <guru3> well you see, that's because i'm copying bits of what i see elsewhere ;)
21:24 <guru3> and that stuff has already been through the mill once
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7536 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (21 files in 6 dirs):
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7533 to 7535:
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7535 | z-man | 2008-01-17 20:40:00 +0100 (Thu, 17 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  The yearly game of eliminating all warnings a new version of GCC brings, this time version 4.2.2
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad: Added some more of the same stuff for new trunk code.
21:32 <wrtlprnft> z-man: uh, i don't think i have anything to do with tPolynomial
21:33 <wrtlprnft> but i'll try and see what i can do
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21:40 <wrtlprnft> ah figured out how to compile without ruby support
21:40 <wrtlprnft> so i can actually see the warnings you're talking about
21:40 <wrtlprnft> ah, i see the problem, and why you think it's my fault
21:44 <wrtlprnft> the original problem is that I needed what used to be eFunction (or gFunction or something, don't remember exactly) in src/tools
21:45 <luke-jr> doesn't vValue cover that?
21:45 <wrtlprnft> but those header files have operators to write them into and read them from nMessages
21:46 <wrtlprnft> that's where i used a templated operator<< and a templated operator>>
21:46 <wrtlprnft> with a comment, though
21:47 <wrtlprnft> //These templates are probably only useable with nMessage as parameter.
21:47 <wrtlprnft> //The reason they're templates is that nMessage isn't available in src/tools
21:47 <wrtlprnft> //and that tFunction might be needed to be in src/tools in the future.
21:47 <wrtlprnft> //Imagine a constructor for vValue that converts from a tFunction as an
21:47 <wrtlprnft> //example (or the other way, as far as possible). --wrtlprnft
21:47 <wrtlprnft> ph must have used tFunction as a base for tPolynomial
21:48 <wrtlprnft> and for some reason figured that it's a good idea to make nMessage a template parameter to tPloynomial
21:48 <wrtlprnft> which is quite insane, obviously, as the only functions that actually use that parameter are operator<< and operator>>
21:49 <wrtlprnft> z-man: want me to try and convert the entire thing to a normal class?
21:50 <wrtlprnft> wow, in fact it looks as if ph just replaced tFunction by tPolynomial in the entire file
21:50 <wrtlprnft> //Imagine a constructor for vValue that converts from a tPolynomial as an
21:50 <wrtlprnft> #monologue
21:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 15 lines long.
21:50 <luke-jr> :þ
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22:04 <z-man> wrtlprnft: yeah, that comment was the only clue leading to you :)
22:04  * z-man was too lazy to use svn annotate
22:05 <z-man> And from those here in IRC, that made you the one knowing most about the situation :)
22:05 <z-man> Yes, it would be good to convert tPolynomial into a normal class, and make just the Read/WriteSync method templates.
22:08 <wrtlprnft> :)
22:08  * wrtlprnft hopes he won't break anything
22:09 <wrtlprnft> argh, a templated virtual fun
22:09 <wrtlprnft> ction
22:09 <wrtlprnft> that sounds like fun
22:13 <wrtlprnft> meh, looks like ph has done some java lately
22:13 <wrtlprnft> a toString member instead of a <<(ostream &, poly &) function
22:13 <wrtlprnft> that doesn't even return a string
22:15 <wrtlprnft>     template<typename D>
22:15 <wrtlprnft>     friend bool operator == (const tPolynomial<D> & left, const tPolynomial<D> & right);
22:15 <wrtlprnft> what
22:15 <wrtlprnft> the
22:15 <wrtlprnft> fuck
22:16 <wrtlprnft> does that mean ph DOES want tPolynomials with other parameters than nMessage?
22:16 <wrtlprnft> they don't exist anywhere, at least
22:18 <wrtlprnft> not mentioning that that function isn't defined anywhere
22:18 <wrtlprnft> nor making any sense
22:18 <wrtlprnft> p1.operator==(p2, p3) means ternary comparison?!
22:19 <wrtlprnft> oh, nvm
22:19 <wrtlprnft> didn't see the friend there
22:19 <wrtlprnft> #monologue
22:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 21 lines long.
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22:31 <wrtlprnft> ah, great
22:32 <wrtlprnft> operator <<(T&,tPolynimial const &) conflicts with operator<<(tString &,T const &)
22:35 <z-man> I see you're having fun :)
22:35 <wrtlprnft> totally
22:36 <z-man> Don't overload the operator, then.
22:36 <wrtlprnft> errm
22:36 <z-man> Just use functions: template< class T > void WriteSync( T & );
22:36 <z-man> (member of tPolynomial, of course)
22:37 <wrtlprnft> i could just forward declare nMessage and implement the operators somewhere else
22:37 <wrtlprnft> those functions already exist :D
22:38 <z-man> Well, where are the operators needed?
22:38 <z-man> I mean, NEEDED.
22:38 <z-man> They're just sugar.
22:39 <wrtlprnft> wtf
22:39 <wrtlprnft> i just commented them out and they're still causing trouble
22:40 <wrtlprnft> hmm, those operators read and write an ID, too
22:40 <wrtlprnft>     // write ID for compatibility with future extensions
22:40 <wrtlprnft>     unsigned short ID = 1;
22:40 <wrtlprnft>     m.Write( ID );
22:40 <wrtlprnft>     return f.WriteSync(m);
22:53 <wrtlprnft> meh, that first warning is actually an implicit constructor
22:54 <wrtlprnft> omg
22:56 <wrtlprnft> ok, i'm about to give up and leave it as it is
22:57 <wrtlprnft> because tPolynomial has got a class that's derived from it and i can't make a template function like WriteSync a virtual member, but it needs to be
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23:04 <epsy> #ss ss.s
23:04 <armabot> epsy: |x|.Fortress.Server: who? (64): Bip (8), Guy (6); ¦×¦ (16): ¦×¦ Legit (10), ¦×¦ zz 109 (4)
23:05 <epsy> #ss ss.s
23:05 <armabot> epsy: |x|.Fortress.Server: who? (64): Bip (8), Guy (6); ¦×¦ (28): ¦×¦ Legit (12), ¦×¦ zz 109 (4)
23:17 <cusco> #ss
23:17 <armabot> cusco: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
23:17 <cusco> #ss god
23:17 <armabot> cusco: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “god” at the moment, sorry.
23:17 <cusco> #ss *god*
23:17 <armabot> cusco: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “*god*” at the moment, sorry.
23:17 <cusco> liar
23:21 <wrtlprnft> #ss god
23:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: GOD DOES NOT EXISTS - Thank you - (high rubber and high speed): PLAYERS (1): F3AR MAN (3)
23:21 <wrtlprnft> you need to give it a minute to update :D
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23:25 <StickyNoob> #ss ss.s
23:25 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x|.Fortress.Server: Team blue (14): Knus (0); Team gold (2): ¦×¦ zz 109 (2), Bip (0)
23:26 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: hah
23:26 <vinavil> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=194123#194123
23:29 <wrtlprnft> i know
23:29 <wrtlprnft> i removed some spam while searching for the right page
23:30 <epsy> finally got opera mini to work on my cell phone
23:30 <epsy> it's...
23:30 <epsy> ...awesome
23:35 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: i noticed. are you able to block editing from logged out users?
23:35 <vinavil> also we should close registration for a while and ban the ones who spammed
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23:36 <vinavil> tank said he's not able
23:36 <vinavil> but he seemed to agree
23:36 <wrtlprnft> i don't think i am
23:36 <wrtlprnft> you need buerocrat rights for that i think
23:36 <vinavil> so, who does have them?
23:37 <vinavil> luci?
23:37 <wrtlprnft> guru3: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_anonymous_editing
23:38 <wrtlprnft> guru3 is the one who hosts the wiki, so he's the guy for the job
23:38 <wrtlprnft> i think he didn't know *how* to do it
23:43 <vinavil> indeed
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23:48 <vinavil> #night
23:48 <armabot> Good night vinavil!
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00:08 <Hoax-> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=PlayingGettingStarted
00:08 <Hoax-> er
00:08 <Hoax-> spammed up
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00:55 <xfroggy> armabot, whats wrong? :D
00:55 <xfroggy> oops
00:56 <Hoax-> LOL
00:56  * xfroggy though this is ct lol
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01:50 <z-man> Yay, we have a useless red had bug database entry!
01:50 <z-man> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428772
01:51  * z-man is just letting a couple of AIs fight over the night on FC8 to see whether it's a bug that should bother US, and not the driver/kernel developers.
01:53 <z-man> Poor AIs.
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02:42 <xfroggy> I just though of a good future for tron
02:44 <xfroggy> now to figure out which name I registered under on forums would be an accomplishment for tonight
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03:08 <xfroggy> Stewie-arma, :D
03:28 -!- ky13 is now known as ct|kyle
03:29 <Stewie-arma> xfroggy xD
03:29 <xfroggy> Stewie-arma! :D
03:29 -!- ct|kyle is now known as ky13
03:29 <Stewie-arma> xfroggy! xD
03:30 <xfroggy> Stewie-arma! :D
03:30 <Stewie-arma> xfroggy! xD
03:30 <xfroggy> xD
03:30 <Stewie-arma> :D
03:30 <xfroggy> what's cooking, doc?
03:30 <Stewie-arma> nothing, gee
03:30 <xfroggy> :D
03:31 <Stewie-arma> xD
03:31 <Stewie-arma> what cooking, you?
03:31 <xfroggy> nuttin doc
03:31 <xfroggy> :D
03:31 <Stewie-arma> xD
03:32 <Stewie-arma> g2g
03:32 <Stewie-arma> sadly
03:32 <Stewie-arma> ...
03:32 <xfroggy> :|
03:32 <Stewie-arma> ):
03:32 <xfroggy> thanks for 2 sec visit :D
03:32 <Stewie-arma> you're welcome xD
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03:33 <luke-jr> .
03:59 <flex> .
04:39 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
04:39 <flex> oh that's gay p4
04:43 <luke-jr> #rating ctxp4
04:43 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
04:43 <armabot> luke-jr: ctxp4 is 424th with a rating of 1544-1607 (from 1561-1625)
04:43 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 403rd with a rating of 1547-1576 (from 1542-1573)
04:43 <flex> #rating flex
04:43 <armabot> flex: flex is 607th with a rating of 1518-1551 (from 1521-1552)
04:43 <flex> what exactly is it rating?
04:44 <luke-jr> skill
04:46 <flex> lol what skill
04:47 <luke-jr> Arma skill
04:47 <flex> woot
04:48 <flex> i'm 600th?
04:48 <luke-jr> 607th
04:48 <flex> whos 1st?
04:48 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net
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05:22 <luke-jr> #aka flex
05:22 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿215 flex kinky4u hoax_>_fle hoax_>_flex_l>
05:22 <luke-jr> :o
05:22 <luke-jr> flex is hoax?
05:22 <Hoax-> I hope not tbh
05:22 <luke-jr> lol
05:22 <luke-jr> #aka hoax
05:23 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'hoax'!
05:23 <luke-jr> Hoax-: what name do you play under?
05:23 <Hoax-> :( :D
05:23 <Hoax-> |x| Hoax ?
05:23 <Hoax-> #aka |x| Hoax
05:23 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿859 |x|smaxekcuf |ast|_hoax hoa|x| dnb|x| |x|hoax se|x| |sexy|ho se|x|ual druank|x|ual |x| |x|_hofo |x|_hoax
05:24 <luke-jr> :o
05:24 <Hoax->  |x|smaxekcuf
05:24 <Hoax-> i swear thats not me lol ;/
05:24 <luke-jr> well, looks like he renamed to you :x
05:25 <luke-jr> #aka ¿184
05:25 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿184 |x|hardcore |x|ae |x|eon |x|aeon |x|mas-tree |x|mams |x|mas |x|mas-on |x|_hoaxmas
05:26 <Hoax-> #rating Hoax-
05:26 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about 'hoax-'!
05:26 <Hoax-> #rating Hoax
05:26 <luke-jr> #rating ¿184
05:26 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about 'hoax'!
05:26 <luke-jr> #rating ¿859
05:26 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿184 is 640th with a rating of 1513-1579 (from 1528-1592)
05:26 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿859 is 742nd with a rating of 1500-1532 (from 1505-1531)
05:26 <Hoax-> where'd 184 come from
05:27 <luke-jr> Alias 859: |x| => |x|_hoax (was 184)
05:27 <luke-jr> |x|_hoax was user 184 until |x| renamed over it
05:29 <luke-jr> does 184 look like yours?
05:29 <luke-jr> #rating ¿184
05:29 <luke-jr> #aka ¿184
05:29 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿184 is 640th with a rating of 1513-1579 (from 1528-1592)
05:29 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿184 |x|hardcore |x|ae |x|eon |x|aeon |x|mas-tree |x|mams |x|mas |x|mas-on |x|_hoaxmas
05:29 <Hoax-> no that's aeon
05:29 <luke-jr> :o
05:30 <Hoax-> haha im confused
05:30 <luke-jr> should I trash uid 859?
05:31 <Hoax-> I don't know what the concept of id's is here...
05:33 <luke-jr> uid is what the rating is associated with
05:34 <Hoax-> ah
05:34 <Hoax-> 859 looks like me
05:34 <luke-jr> minus smaxekcuf hijacking it?
05:35 <Hoax-> idk that could have been me I don't remember
05:35 <luke-jr> rofl
05:35 <Hoax-> how is rating conceived besides 'skill' lol
05:35 <luke-jr> well, the name stuff is from when you rename
05:36 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
05:36 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 393rd with a rating of 1547-1576 (from 1542-1573)
05:36 <luke-jr> I just purged the nameless players :þ
05:36 <luke-jr> now I'm in the top 400 :o
05:37 <Hoax-> <flex> what exactly is it rating?
05:37 <Hoax-> since im not a pikey give me a better answer than he got :D
05:37 <luke-jr> a pikey?
05:37 <Hoax-> haha
05:37 <luke-jr> who kills whom
05:37 <Hoax-> oh ok
05:38 <luke-jr> it doesn't care so much how often you kill people or what not
05:38 <luke-jr> mainly WHO you can kill, and WHO can kill you
05:38 <Hoax-> well I've never heard of this rating before :}
05:39 <luke-jr> it's still alpha
05:39 <luke-jr> somewhere between 10-25 servers participating right now
05:40 <Hoax-> I did have my suspicions when i saw ~|DS|~Alien~ in the top 25
05:41 <luke-jr> ?
05:41 <luke-jr> if you think you're better go find and kill him for a while
05:41 <luke-jr> :þ
05:41 <Hoax-> hehe
05:42 <Hoax-> Once is enough for one day
05:48 <flex> Ah, so I go find "smile" or whatever and i become in the top 25 luke-jr?
05:48 <luke-jr> not likely
05:48 <luke-jr> #rating flex
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 588th with a rating of 1518-1551 (from 1521-1552)
05:48 <luke-jr> you're quite a ways away
05:48 <luke-jr> more likely you'd drag him downward more than he'd push you up
05:49 <flex> can you clear it.. i wasn't taking ti seriously :p
05:50 <luke-jr> ?
05:51 <flex> and tbh it's flawed as how it works.. because it's not like EVE where once you die you have to rebuild.. you just literally wait for the next round.. so all you need to do is kill some dude that on top to be able to reduce his score or increase your score.. what I'm trying to point out is, you basically get a lot of chances to do so
05:51 <luke-jr> if it matters, he doesn't belong where he is
05:52 <luke-jr> if he's really that good, one death to you will be made up for by the deaths of many others he pwns
05:52 <flex> well one death can dramatically reduce my score if some guy that never plays gets my death..
05:52 <flex> right?
05:53 <luke-jr> until you kill a bunch of lusers who suck?
05:53 <flex> It simply matters if the X amount of points you get for kills and X amount of points deducted is fair or equal
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05:54 <flex> well it's not like you go to a server where everyone is going to have a high rank.. it's mixed with low skill and high skill at any one point
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05:56 <flex> guess I'm saying is, if someone on the top gets killed by someone on the bottom once or twice will is effect the score dramatically to the guy at the top?
05:57 <luke-jr> depends on a number of factors
05:57 <luke-jr> first off, do note that the rating itself is not a mere number
05:57 <luke-jr> it is in fact 3 numbers
05:58 <luke-jr> rating, deviation, and volatility
05:58 <luke-jr> all of which determine what effect a kill has
05:59 <flex> well for example, someone who has low deaths and high kills, gets killed by someone with alot of deaths and low kills.. what kind of impact is that going to have
05:59 <flex> considering that's what pretty much arma is about.. people with different names and stuff
05:59 <luke-jr> kills are not counted
06:00 <flex> oh so what's stability about then..
06:00 <luke-jr> ?
06:00 <Vanhayes> #rating vanhayes
06:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: vanhayes is 1974th with a rating of 1387-1475 (from 1368-1458)
06:01 <luke-jr> ouch
06:01 <luke-jr> at least you're improving, I guess
06:01 <flex> rating systems always never rate correctly
06:01 <Vanhayes> is that good for a few hours of playing in the last 4 months
06:01 <luke-jr> flex: well, this one has had plenty of design put into it :þ
06:02 <flex> what exactly is volatility counting..
06:02 <Vanhayes> what is the rating part of it
06:02 <flex> stability of the player?
06:02 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: time spent playing only affects accuracy, not rating in general
06:02 <luke-jr> flex: not sure
06:02 <Vanhayes> what are the second numbers
06:02 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: the raw rating # is the middle of the range minus 1500 divided by 141 or such
06:02 <flex> such as predictable performance?
06:03 <luke-jr> the range is rating +/- deviation
06:03 <luke-jr> flex: I guess?
06:03 <luke-jr> ask Prof. Glickman or something XD
06:03 <flex> can i see the raw data :p
06:03 <Vanhayes> hmm, what servers are participating in it
06:03 <flex> like stats for me
06:03 <luke-jr> raw_rating flex :live
06:03 <luke-jr> 0.19902321426976 0.0921654208781475 0.0597799911895433
06:03 <luke-jr> raw_rating flex :trunk
06:03 <luke-jr> 0.209112676329526 0.0847082554478751 0.0598818967302838
06:04 <flex> lol
06:04 <flex> woot
06:04 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: AoS Capture the Flag, AoS Capture the Flag (Crazy Mode), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress, Eclipse'd.EC|d, Fortress Cafe, GreenZone, Swampland in 0.2.8, Swampland of Hate, Wild West (Capture the Flag), Wild West (Misc), Wild West (Sumo), Wild West (Wild Fortress), ~"XzL
06:05 <luke-jr> flex: rating, deviation, and volatility in that order
06:05 <flex> so i just gotta keep killing the guys on top? lol
06:05 <luke-jr> flex: if you can, that would help
06:05 <flex> :p
06:05 <flex> easy as pie!
06:05 <luke-jr> the fact that they're on the top means it's unlikely you can
06:06 <luke-jr> either that or they've just not played enough for it to be accurate
06:06 <Vanhayes> who is #1
06:06 <flex> well what's their participation?
06:06 <flex> how much has that guy played
06:06 <flex> on the top
06:06 <luke-jr> no idea
06:06 <Vanhayes> #rating madmax
06:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: madmax is 139th with a rating of 1604-1643 (from 1607-1640)
06:06 <flex> it's like the more you play the lower your rank
06:07 <Vanhayes> #rating lackadaisical
06:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: lackadaisical is 229th with a rating of 1578-1624 (from 1581-1622)
06:07 <flex> #rating infa
06:07 <luke-jr> flex: if your gameplay gets worse, yes
06:07 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: can you tell who is on top
06:07 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'infa'!
06:07 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: …
06:08 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: http://ratings.armagetronad.net
06:08 <luke-jr> flex: also, keep in mind there are new players all the time, especially as new servers start participating
06:08 <luke-jr> if those new players are better than you, it will push you down ☺
06:08 <flex> #rating |x|_infamous
06:08 <luke-jr> hence why I have to fight to stay in the top 400
06:08 <armabot> flex: |x|_infamous is 26th with a rating of 1666-1725 (from 1649-1712)
06:08 <luke-jr> flex: also, your RD increases over time
06:08 <flex> lol just under the mark
06:09 <flex> RD?
06:09 <luke-jr> deviation
06:09 <Vanhayes> so what are the ratings based on
06:09 <luke-jr> eg, look at 'smile'
06:09  * GodTodd thinks that luke-jr has to fight to stay in the top 400 cuz he sux.
06:09 <GodTodd> :)
06:09 <luke-jr> he hasn't played since the last RP ended, but has had his RD increase by 1
06:09 <luke-jr> GodTodd: besides that
06:09 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: who you can kill and who can kill you
06:10 <flex> luke, i'm gona catch you on a smurf name and pwn you back to 9000th
06:10 <luke-jr> O.o
06:10 <Vanhayes> so if i went and klled smile alot i would go up
06:10 <flex> is that possible?
06:10 <luke-jr> no
06:10 <flex> no van, smile will drop but you'll only increase abit
06:10 <luke-jr> 6435 uids total atm
06:11 <flex> the guy on top actually has more to loose
06:11 <Vanhayes> so if I kill alot of different people and dont die I go up
06:11 <flex> no
06:11 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: unless you kill all noobs
06:11 <flex> you gotta kill the people on top
06:11 <flex> lol
06:11 <Hoax-> lol I just made some toast came back & read all of this crap
06:11 <luke-jr> you need to kill people above you to move up significantly
06:11 <flex> toast
06:11 <Hoax-> all i can say is, GodTodd read my mind
06:11 <flex> lmao
06:12 <GodTodd> :D
06:12 <Vanhayes> #rating luke-jr
06:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: luke-jr is 393rd with a rating of 1547-1576 (from 1542-1573)
06:12 <flex> so will it work if i go and create a new name and catch you and kill you lots?
06:12 <luke-jr> flex: creating a new name will only make it less accurate
06:12 <Vanhayes> so its based on name then
06:12 <luke-jr> better to use your existing name
06:13 <flex> less accurate?
06:13 <flex> you're tracking by IP as well?
06:13 <luke-jr> the default range is like 1150 - 1850
06:13 <flex> I'm with BT, I have a dynamic IP you can't catch me :p
06:13 <Vanhayes> so i could make 2 players one me and another a guy who is top then go into a server and beat him alot
06:13 <luke-jr> so far below Vanhayes even
06:13 <luke-jr> flex: IP is ignored
06:14 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: that's called cheating
06:14 <luke-jr> fyi
06:14 <Vanhayes> #rating vanhayes
06:14 <flex> well so it's easy to ruin someones rank by giving them a hard time on the grid..
06:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: vanhayes is 1976th with a rating of 1387-1475 (from 1368-1458)
06:14 <flex> on a smurf name
06:14 <luke-jr> flex: yep, that's why auth would be nice
06:15 <flex> how hard is it to have a ID system jeeez :p
06:16 <luke-jr> #rating belenus
06:16 <flex> hoax
06:16 <luke-jr> flex: wanna help?
06:16 <flex> lol who's southp4rk on the ctwf ladder
06:16 <armabot> luke-jr: belenus is 1995th with a rating of 1386-1526
06:16 <Hoax-> short term its rubbish imo...spend a few matches in cafe, and someone not as good as say, madmax, could easily 'kill' them. But i guess in the long-run it will pan out with the better players on top
06:16 <flex> who is 1337 luke lmao
06:16 <luke-jr> #rating madmax
06:16 <luke-jr> Hoax-: madmax is pretty good
06:16 <armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 140th with a rating of 1604-1643 (from 1607-1640)
06:17 <luke-jr> #rating goten6456
06:17 <Hoax-> southp4rk is spot
06:17 <armabot> luke-jr: goten6456 is 1335th with a rating of 1442-1499 (from 1400-1462)
06:17 <luke-jr> o
06:17 <luke-jr> he moved already
06:17 <flex> lol
06:17 <luke-jr> #rating ~los3~
06:17 <flex> find 1337 :p
06:17 <armabot> luke-jr: ~los3~ is 1337th with a rating of 1441-1651 (from 1442-1651)
06:17 <flex> yay
06:17 <flex> lol
06:17 <Hoax-> http://crazy-tronners.com/viewtopic.php?p=21053&sid=29a5b8b9e68ae15f946b14f662fc105b#21053
06:18 <flex> why does he want to remove it?
06:18 <luke-jr> dunno
06:18 <luke-jr> #rating southp4rk
06:18 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'southp4rk'!
06:18 <Hoax-> egg's been smurfing but i cant remember exactly what he used ;)
06:18 <luke-jr> O.o
06:19 <flex> again, a guy playing high rubber might die less then a guy playing with 0rubber and having a higher chance of dieing
06:19 <Hoax-> #rating zop
06:19 <armabot> Hoax-: zop is 2932nd with a rating of 1308-1585
06:19 <flex> the whole game isn't the same luke
06:19 <flex> #rating hoax
06:19 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'hoax'!
06:20 <flex> #rating flex
06:20 <Hoax-> #rating |x| Hoax
06:20 <luke-jr> #rating2 "|x| Hoax" ctwf
06:20 <armabot> flex: flex is 589th with a rating of 1518-1551 (from 1521-1552)
06:20 <armabot> Hoax-: |x|_hoax is 719th with a rating of 1500-1532 (from 1505-1531)
06:20 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_hoax is 122nd with a rating of 1476-1607 (from 1477-1606) on ctwf
06:20 <Hoax-> haha
06:20 <luke-jr> don't play CTWF much? :þ
06:20 <Hoax-> No.
06:20 <Hoax-> lol
06:21 <flex> #aka flex
06:21 <armabot> flex: ¿215 flex kinky4u hoax_>_fle hoax_>_flex_l>
06:21 <Hoax-> flex < Hoax  <3
06:21 <luke-jr> Hoax-: where do you usually play?
06:21 <Hoax-> cafe
06:21 <luke-jr> #rating2 "|x| Hoax" cafe
06:22 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_hoax is 211th with a rating of 1488-1525 (from 1492-1524) on cafe
06:22 <flex> #rating2 flex cafe
06:22 <armabot> flex: flex is 170th with a rating of 1499-1556 (from 1501-1553) on cafe
06:22 <flex> #rating2 flex sumo
06:22 <armabot> flex: flex is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on sumo
06:22 <flex> lol
06:22 <flex> w00t?
06:22 <luke-jr> that means 'sumo' doesn't exist
06:22 <luke-jr> :þ
06:23 <flex> that's unfair.. i went to dll and was testing my cockpit for awhile
06:23 <Hoax-> #rating2 |x| Hoax ww sumo
06:23 <armabot> Hoax-: |x| is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on Hoax ww sumo
06:23 <flex> can you reset my rating luk
06:23 <flex> e
06:23 <Vanhayes> #rating vanhayes
06:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: vanhayes is 1976th with a rating of 1387-1475 (from 1368-1458)
06:23 <Hoax-> #lastseen Vanhayes
06:23 <luke-jr> #rating2 "|x| hoax" ww_sumo
06:23 <armabot> Hoax-: Vanhayes seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
06:23 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_hoax is 60th with a rating of 1523-1570 (from 1526-1567) on ww_sumo
06:23 <Hoax-> #tea
06:23 <flex> #rating2 flex ww_sumo
06:23 <armabot> Hoax-: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
06:23 <luke-jr> #rating2 Vanhayes cafe
06:24 <armabot> flex: flex is 54th with a rating of 1531-1569 (from 1537-1577) on ww_sumo
06:24 <armabot> luke-jr: vanhayes is 431st with a rating of 1406-1530 (from 1397-1527) on cafe
06:24 <flex> #rating2 flex ww_teamsumo
06:24 <flex> whats team sumo stats
06:24 <Vanhayes> are those ratings for since cafe came up or since the ratings started
06:24 <armabot> flex: flex is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on ww_teamsumo
06:24 <flex> #rating2 flex ww_team_sumo
06:24 <luke-jr> ww_ctf|Wild West (Capture the Flag)
06:24 <luke-jr> ww_misc|Wild West (Misc)
06:24 <luke-jr> ww_sumo|Wild West (Sumo)
06:24 <luke-jr> ww_wildfort|Wild West (Wild Fortress)
06:24 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: since cafe began participating
06:24 <Vanhayes> ah ok
06:24 <armabot> flex: flex is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on ww_team_sumo
06:25 <flex> team sumo isn't on there luke
06:25 <Hoax-> luke-jr, who is tramshed ?
06:25 <luke-jr> it might be under ww_sumo too
06:25 <luke-jr> Hoax-: /dev/null
06:25 <Hoax-> the real one
06:25 <luke-jr> yeah
06:25 <luke-jr> #rating /dev/null
06:25 <armabot> luke-jr: /dev/null is 961st with a rating of 1479-1511 (from 1460-1489)
06:25 <Hoax-> hes in the US?
06:25 <flex> so can i get my rating reset please, :p i never knew of such a system and so i was messing around on dll with my cockpit
06:25 <Vanhayes> #rating armegetron
06:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'armegetron'!
06:25 <luke-jr> flex: just play better :þ
06:25 <luke-jr> #rating armagetron
06:25 <Hoax-> theres a nooby /dev/null going around atm
06:26 <armabot> luke-jr: armagetron is 32nd with a rating of 1660-1713 (from 1644-1698)
06:26 <Vanhayes> woops
06:26 <flex> #rating player_1
06:26 <armabot> flex: player_1 is 2605th with a rating of 1336-1365 (from 1327-1358)
06:26 <flex> whos at the bottom luke lol
06:26 <Hoax-> tramshed is the name of a bar/club lol
06:26 <flex> bottom 50 :p or bottom 10
06:26 <luke-jr> #rating chatbot
06:26 <Hoax-> #rating |x| FoFo
06:27 <armabot> luke-jr: chatbot is 3605th with a rating of 1250-1461
06:27 <armabot> Hoax-: |x|_fofo is 276th with a rating of 1568-1610 (from 1573-1622)
06:27 <luke-jr> #rating redwombat
06:27 <Hoax-> #rating2 |x| FoFo cafe
06:27 <armabot> luke-jr: redwombat is 5952nd with a rating of 574-917
06:27 <luke-jr> Hoax-: you need quotes for rating2
06:27 <armabot> Hoax-: |x| is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on FoFo cafe
06:27 <Hoax-> #rating2 "|x| FoFo" cafe
06:27 <armabot> Hoax-: |x|_fofo is 43rd with a rating of 1568-1611 (from 1571-1621) on cafe
06:28 <Hoax-> #rating2 "madmax" cafe
06:28 <armabot> Hoax-: madmax is 20th with a rating of 1600-1639 (from 1603-1636) on cafe
06:28 <Hoax-> #rating2 "swish" cafe
06:28 <luke-jr> #rating alan
06:28 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about 'swish'!
06:28 <armabot> luke-jr: alan is 5951st with a rating of 726-1143 (from 727-1143)
06:28 <Hoax-> heh i guess its quite cool
06:28 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/*cafe
06:29 <Hoax-> ah swift...not swish
06:29 <Hoax-> =max
06:29 <Hoax-> its still broke though..no way is alien 1st
06:29 <luke-jr> lol
06:30 <luke-jr> #rating ou(_domaskutis
06:30 <luke-jr> #rating ou(_domaskutis cafe
06:30 <luke-jr> that's the worst on cafe
06:30 <armabot> luke-jr: ou(_domaskutis is 5182nd with a rating of 1065-1268 (from 1066-1267)
06:30 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'ou(_domaskutis_cafe'!
06:30 <luke-jr> #rating2 ou(_domaskutis cafe
06:30 <flex> lol alien is on top on cafe?
06:30 <armabot> luke-jr: ou(_domaskutis is 1715th with a rating of 451-940 on cafe
06:30 <flex> #aka smile
06:30 <armabot> flex: ¿3413 smile
06:30 <Hoax-> #aka earplugs
06:31 <luke-jr> #aka ~|ds|~|alien|~
06:31 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿2860 shadows_fall yarly srsly? defwrecker earplugs
06:31 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿4581 ~|ds|~|alien|~2 ~|ds|~|alien|~
06:31 <flex> haha hoax
06:31 <Hoax-> hahaha defwrecker
06:31 <Vanhayes> #aka vanhayes
06:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6574 vanhayes
06:31 <Hoax-> rico is a tard fosho
06:31 <Vanhayes> what is aka
06:31 <flex> hahaha total fag :p
06:31 <luke-jr> tells you what names are considered the same
06:31 <Hoax-> #aka rico
06:31 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿4929 rico
06:32 <luke-jr> also the UID
06:32 <Hoax-> is it client/ip based?
06:32 <flex> who's on top of the cafe rating?
06:32 <luke-jr> Hoax-: no
06:32 <Hoax-> alien
06:32 <flex> how is that possible?
06:32 <luke-jr> flex: http://ratings.armagetronad.net/*cafe
06:32 <Hoax-> how does it know the person is the same
06:32 <luke-jr> Hoax-: if you rename in a server
06:32 <Hoax-> #aka |x|rico
06:32 <Hoax-> oh
06:32 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '|x|rico'!
06:32 <Vanhayes> #aka vanhayes
06:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6574 vanhayes swiftcoaster
06:32 <luke-jr> lol
06:32 <Vanhayes> cool
06:33 <luke-jr> #aka luke-jr
06:33 <luke-jr> :þ
06:33 <Hoax-> #aka eggcozy
06:33 <flex> #rating |x|_flex
06:33 <Hoax-> #aka madmax
06:33 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿8 luke-jr praise_jesus
06:33 <Hoax-> heh
06:33 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿2206 eggcozy
06:33 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about '|x|_flex'!
06:33 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿5573 madmax2 vim madmax
06:33 <Hoax-> Good.
06:33 <Vanhayes> remind me not to switch names in a server anymore
06:33 <luke-jr> lol
06:33 <Vanhayes> bigbrother is watching
06:33 <Hoax-> haha
06:33 <tramshed> wait, wut
06:34 <luke-jr> #aka /dev/null
06:34 <Hoax-> who doesnt know that those two names are you ;)
06:34 <flex> #aka liz
06:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr wrote the script...it's big sister ;)
06:34 <Vanhayes> heh
06:34 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿254 fishman /dev/null
06:34 <armabot> flex: ¿690 liz
06:34  * luke-jr shoots at GodTodd
06:34 <luke-jr> tramshed: fishman?
06:34 <luke-jr> wtf
06:34 <tramshed> not me
06:34 <tramshed> friend of mine
06:34 <luke-jr> lol
06:34  * GodTodd notes luke-jr shoots like a lil girl
06:34 <tramshed> he plays at my house on occasion though
06:34 <luke-jr> tramshed: well, it thinks you're the same now
06:34 <tramshed> haha
06:34 <GodTodd> or worse...luke shoots like he plays tron :D
06:34 <luke-jr> get him to break the link if you care
06:35 <Hoax-> #aka sasori
06:35 <Hoax-> thereu go flex
06:35 <flex> oh
06:35 <flex> lol
06:35 <tramshed> probably because I changed my name in the middle of a match because it was set as his
06:35 <Vanhayes> #aka me
06:35 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about 'sasori'!
06:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿4799 ctxwoned2 me dont_believe do nate pussy_man
06:35 <luke-jr> tramshed: likely
06:35 <Hoax-> #aka Player 1
06:35 <Vanhayes> heh
06:35 <flex> lolol
06:35 <Hoax-> #rating Player 1
06:35 <flex> boom
06:35 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿1 player_1
06:35 <luke-jr> Hoax-: player 1 is prohibited from renames
06:35 <flex> kik
06:35 <armabot> Hoax-: player_1 is 2606th with a rating of 1336-1365 (from 1327-1358)
06:35 <luke-jr> as are 2,3,4
06:36 <Hoax-> fair enough
06:36 <Vanhayes> what about 5+
06:36 <flex> #aka player_5
06:36 <Hoax-> ...lol
06:36 <luke-jr> before, player_1 had a ton of aliases
06:36 <tramshed> what about the real player 1?
06:36 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'player_5'!
06:36 <luke-jr> including z-man
06:36 <flex> lol
06:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: player_5 is not a default anywhere
06:36 <flex> #aka flexgirl
06:36 <Hoax-> #rating2 "|x| Legit" cafe
06:36 <armabot> flex: ¿6734 .dbd|_zfuse flexgirl kinkygirl
06:36 <armabot> Hoax-: |x|_legit is 32nd with a rating of 1578-1630 (from 1580-1627) on cafe
06:36 <Hoax-> heh
06:37 <luke-jr> #aka |x|_legit
06:37 <tramshed> hmm, im identified now?
06:37 <Hoax-> #aka .dbd|sasori
06:37 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿4229 |xl|_cheeto |x|_legit |x|_flash_me
06:37 <tramshed> since when did I get my nick back
06:37 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿6320 aimbot girl dbd|_sasori lisapisa kinky_bitch .dbd|zfuse .dbd|sasori zfuse dudette
06:37 <Hoax-> haha what a bint
06:37 <flex> haha
06:37 <Hoax-> why am i even typing its name
06:37 <flex> haha it's?
06:37 <Hoax-> control your ho's flex
06:37 <flex> lol what
06:38 <flex> lol "aimbot girl"
06:38 <Hoax-> hah the whole of ddl didnt know who cheeto was
06:38 <flex> #aka cheeto
06:38 <Hoax-> this could have saved them some crying
06:38 <armabot> flex: ¿496 cheeto
06:39 <Hoax-> #aka 4229
06:39 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '4229'!
06:39 <tramshed> #aka bob
06:39 <armabot> tramshed: ¿5524 .ionstream dbd|$asori bob lise .dbd|zfu$e
06:39 <flex> #aka savas
06:39 <Hoax-> upsidedown ? ftl
06:39 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'savas'!
06:40 <luke-jr> O.o
06:40 <Hoax-> #aka .dbd|nano
06:40 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '.dbd|nano'!
06:40 <flex> lol
06:40 <Hoax-> these bitches like to smurf
06:40 <flex> #aka angel
06:40 <armabot> flex: ¿1123 angel
06:40 <flex> why ain't it finding anything?
06:40 <flex> these are 100% smurfers
06:41 <Hoax-> theres more than one angel btw
06:41 <tramshed> probably because they arent playin on servers running the stat script
06:41 <Hoax-> #aka tinuviel
06:41 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿4759 tinuviel
06:41 <Hoax-> #aka ultra
06:41 <Hoax-> #aka schwuli
06:41 <Hoax-> xD
06:41 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿1327 ultra
06:41 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿2422 schwulaoff schwuli ass-baguette
06:42 <Hoax-> rofl
06:42 <tramshed> haha ass-baguette
06:42 <Hoax-> for fofo no doubt
06:42 <flex> lol
06:42 <Hoax-> #aka |x| FoFo
06:42 <flex> luke, what's the update rate at?
06:42 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿5581 dolally |x|_fofo
06:42 <Hoax-> hehe
06:42 <flex> how long does it take to update to real time
06:43 <luke-jr> flex: ?
06:43 <Hoax-> #aka |x| $ubzero
06:43 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '|x|_$ubzero'!
06:43 <flex> is it instant?
06:43 <luke-jr> flex: it runs on a dual 550 MHz server
06:43 <flex> or does it take time
06:43 <Hoax-> #aka |x| Sticky
06:43 <luke-jr> each kill takes a second or so to process
06:43 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿1070 |x|_sticky |x|org |x|86
06:43 <flex> ah ok
06:43 <flex> can someone be on it without getting a kill?
06:43 <Hoax-> #aka |x| Durka
06:43 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿6185 .:]_o_o |x|_akrud [hagftl]_durka |x|_durka
06:43 <Hoax-> #aka |x| Akrud
06:43 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿6185 .:]_o_o |x|_akrud [hagftl]_durka |x|_durka
06:44 <Hoax-> hagats ftw!
06:44 <Hoax-> haha btw flex
06:44 <luke-jr> flex: if they rename, maybe
06:44 <Hoax-> #aka .:]baddie
06:44 <armabot> Hoax-: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
06:44 <luke-jr> Hoax-: quotes on that one
06:44 <Hoax-> #aka ".:]baddie"
06:44 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '.:]baddie'!
06:45 <Hoax-> #aka ".:]baddy"
06:45 <Hoax-> #aka ".:]badie"
06:45 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '.:]baddy'!
06:45 <armabot> Hoax-: I don't know anything about '.:]badie'!
06:45 <Hoax-> fine
06:45 <Hoax-> #aka pressure
06:45 <flex> #aka small_penis
06:45 <luke-jr> …
06:45 <Hoax-> LOL
06:45 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿6353 thin_red baddy .:]_baddy pressure ct.sol i_hate_press
06:45 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'small_penis'!
06:45 <Hoax-> xDDDD
06:45 <flex> #aka hoax
06:46 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'hoax'!
06:46 <GodTodd> #aka luke-jr's grasp of reality
06:46 <armabot> GodTodd: I don't know anything about 'luke-jr's_grasp_of_reality'!
06:46 <Hoax-> haha that was quick
06:46 <GodTodd> :)
06:46 <flex> btw what hoax?
06:46 <GodTodd> #aka GodTodd
06:46 <armabot> GodTodd: I don't know anything about 'godtodd'!
06:46 <luke-jr> -.-
06:46 <luke-jr> who renamed to smile?
06:47 <luke-jr> #aka smile
06:47 <Hoax-> did you know it was press terrorising you in cafe the other night
06:47 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿6789 icarus luke-jr madmax smile vanhayes marx
06:47 <GodTodd> heh...i should probably fix it on my machine so that it actually runs...i might play more then
06:47 <Hoax-> i did feel bad but meh
06:47 <luke-jr> :O
06:47 <luke-jr> someone wants a beating
06:47 <flex> bad? lol sad tbh
06:47 <flex> atleast i can say i pwned him 600-0
06:47 <flex> what can he say? tked me a couple of times? lol
06:47 <Hoax-> flex <3 preSs & preSs <3 flex :D
06:48 <flex> cock faces like that deserve to get pwned
06:48 <flex> hahaha
06:48 <flex> lal that was not me
06:48 <Hoax-> #aka dot}tod
06:48 <Hoax-> non part serv
06:48 <armabot> Hoax-: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to stats.aa.dashjr.org:9999 (Connection refused) in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/api-pre.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/aka.php</b> on line <b>4</b><br (1 more message)
06:49 <Hoax-> jajaja
06:49 <GodTodd> hahaha
06:49 <flex> GG on fucking everything up lol
06:49 <Hoax-> #kill flex
06:49 <flex> someone just named smile to madmax van, ect
06:49 <armabot> flex will die on Fri Jan 18 06:53:36 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Hoax-
06:49 <flex> i bet it was Vanhayes lol
06:49  * Hoax- agrees
06:50 <Hoax-> #aka noob7
06:50 <luke-jr> yeah
06:50 <armabot> Hoax-: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to stats.aa.dashjr.org:9999 (Connection refused) in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/api-pre.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/aka.php</b> on line <b>4</b><br (1 more message)
06:50 <Hoax-> LOL
06:50 <flex> #aka hoax
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: icarus => vanhayes (was 6574)
06:50 <flex> is server down?
06:50  * Hoax- looks away and whistles
06:50 <armabot> flex: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to stats.aa.dashjr.org:9999 (Connection refused) in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/api-pre.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/aka.php</b> on line <b>4</b><br (1 more message)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: vanhayes => luke-jr (was 8)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: luke-jr => vanhayes (was 6789)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: vanhayes => madmax (was 5573)
06:50 <flex> haha
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: madmax => vanhayes (was 6789)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: vanhayes => smile (was 3413)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: smile => vanhayes (was 6789)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: vanhayes => marx (was 4939)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: marx => vanhayes (was 6789)
06:50 <luke-jr> Alias �6789: vanhayes => lag (was 643)
06:50 <flex> pwned
06:50 <Hoax-> LOL
06:50 <flex> how are you going to fix that luke?
06:51 <flex> and what's there to prevent that..
06:51 <Hoax-> make Vanhayes up the payroll?
06:51 <flex> lolol
06:51 <flex> naught naught Vanhayes! :p
06:51 <flex> naughty^
06:52 <flex> #aka hoax
06:52 <Hoax-> #aka ghableska
06:52 <armabot> flex: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to stats.aa.dashjr.org:9999 (Connection refused) in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/api-pre.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/aka.php</b> on line <b>4</b><br (1 more message)
06:52 <armabot> Hoax-: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to stats.aa.dashjr.org:9999 (Connection refused) in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/api-pre.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/aka.php</b> on line <b>4</b><br (1 more message)
06:52 <luke-jr> ok, started it back up
06:52 <flex> #aka hoax
06:52 <luke-jr> my $re_norename = qr/^(?:þlayer_[1234]|vanhayes)$/;
06:52  * Hoax- came, saw, & broke
06:52 <luke-jr> :þ
06:52 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'hoax'!
06:53 <flex> did it reset?
06:53 <flex> did you clear the past 5 minutes or something I mean
06:53 <flex> #rating vanhayes
06:53 <Vanhayes> heh
06:53 <Vanhayes> take that big brother
06:53 <luke-jr> flex: I went in and reverted those changes
06:53 <armabot> flex: vanhayes is 1717th with a rating of 1409-1491 (from 1368-1458)
06:53 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: die
06:54 <Hoax-> is all this considered as spam in here? :D
06:54 <Vanhayes> #aka vanhayes
06:54 <GodTodd> yes
06:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6574 swiftcoaster vanhayes
06:54 <GodTodd> yes it is ;)
06:54 <Hoax-> lmao
06:54 <flex> it's convo you fucking fag
06:54 <Hoax-> todds funny
06:54 <GodTodd> fucking smappers
06:54 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, that was really easy to screw with
06:54 <flex> yeah^
06:54 <Vanhayes> might have to do it again
06:55 <Hoax-> meh all the euros are in bed and luci is in bed..coast is clear to spam imo
06:55 <flex> how are you actually going to prevent that luke?
06:55 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: then I learn to ban your IP
06:55 <luke-jr> flex: authentication
06:55 <flex> authentication.. how
06:55 <luke-jr> flex: you login before you play
06:55 <GodTodd> luke-jr and learn in the same sentence? now i know the end times are near
06:55 <flex> YEAH right and i'm santa
06:55 <flex> when is that EVer going to be implemented
06:56 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: ever be in a game where people all of a sudden switch to each others name
06:56 <luke-jr> flex: working on it
06:56 <Hoax-> luke-jr, do you know anything about what ct plan on doing regarding authentication in ctwf
06:56 <Vanhayes> used to happen alt
06:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: not possible currently
06:56 <flex> who is?
06:56 <luke-jr> flex: I am
06:56 <luke-jr> Hoax-: no
06:56 <flex> you're solo working on armagetron auth?
06:56 <luke-jr> right now
06:56 <Vanhayes> how is it not possible
06:56 <Hoax-> maybe take a look
06:56 <luke-jr> I think epsy was interested in helping at some point
06:56 <luke-jr> and some new guy might be
06:56 <flex> urm, what kind of system are you looking into?
06:57 <luke-jr> flex: XMPP integration
06:57 <flex> is that based on dynamic nicknames ingame?
06:57 <Vanhayes> luke-jr btw Icarus is one of my names
06:57 <Hoax-> the way i see it is that it can be done but no one can be bothrered..wtf else have u lot got to do? xD
06:58 <luke-jr> flex: no
06:58 <luke-jr> #aka Vanhayes
06:58 <Vanhayes> it was the first one you deleted
06:58 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿6574 swiftcoaster vanhayes
06:58 <luke-jr> #aka Vanhayes
06:58 <flex> hoax, that's the thing, nobody wants to do it.. it's like stupid.. it will improve the game but not fix major problems like spammers and unwanted people
06:58 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿6574 swiftcoaster vanhayes
06:58 <tramshed> #youtellme BOT
06:58 <flex> just because it wont fix those issues the dev guys wont do it
06:58 <luke-jr> #aka Vanhayes
06:58 <flex> but GL to you luke
06:58 <tramshed> erm
06:59 <Hoax-> hmm idk about it
06:59 <flex> i hope you get it done
06:59 <tramshed> how the hell are you going to fix spammers and unwanted people?
06:59 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿6574 swiftcoaster icarus vanhayes
06:59 <Hoax-> if you get rid of the openess of the game...
06:59 <tramshed> its not feasible
06:59 <luke-jr> Hoax-: how is it not open?
06:59 <tramshed> its up to the system admins to deal with spammers and bans really, not the programmers, they have provided the tools
06:59 <flex> just because it underlines some "privicy issues" it's not being fully implmented
06:59 <flex> urm that's quite stupid tramshed..
06:59 <tramshed> so propose a workable solution
06:59 <flex> how do you expect a server admin to ban someone on a dynamic IP
07:00 <luke-jr> flex: they could ban the account instead now
07:00 <Hoax-> no as in if you implement it..more restrictions etc to a practicly unpoliced game
07:00 <tramshed> how do you expect the programmers to do it?
07:00 <flex> exactly
07:00 <Vanhayes> luke-je: you know what, you might just want to ban my IP from this right now, I can say that I will probably screw with this alot
07:00 <luke-jr> Hoax-: you can always play anonymous
07:00 <tramshed> and then they make a new account
07:00 <Hoax-> LOL
07:00 <tramshed> and the problem is still there
07:00 <flex> but he's talking about full banning I.E PC footprint?
07:00 <tramshed> open source, the game can be lied to
07:00 <tramshed> and personally, if tron starts being spyware, im done with it
07:00 <Hoax-> I can be on the grid and playing in like 5seconds...i hope that doesnt change
07:01 <flex> spyware?
07:01 <flex> wtf
07:01 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: done
07:01 <tramshed> there isnt any reason for tron to be fingerprinting
07:01 <flex> just because it records and ID?
07:01 <tramshed> an id is fine
07:01 <tramshed> but it depends on whats in the id
07:01 <tramshed> and regardless, it can be faked or changed
07:01 <luke-jr> Hoax-: you could tell it to remember your pass
07:01 <tramshed> so its still not a possible solution
07:02 <tramshed> its practically impossible to write software to ban spammers permanently
07:02 <Hoax-> tramshed where u get that nick from?
07:02 <tramshed> which is why games have mods and admins
07:02 <Hoax-> luke-jr, true
07:02 <Vanhayes> #rating vanhayes
07:02 <flex> dude, there is NO other way for a system that can get rid of someone without having some sort of foothold on you.. if the game costed money then the guy would stop buying accounts but it doesn't..
07:02 <tramshed> made it up years and years ago Hoax-
07:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: vanhayes is 1718th with a rating of 1409-1491 (from 1368-1458)
07:02 <tramshed> flex, which is why your plan isnt going to work
07:02 <Hoax-> oh..its a really grotty club near wear i live :D
07:02 <luke-jr> flex: hmmmm
07:02 <flex> urm it's been done before
07:02 <flex> lol
07:02 <tramshed> in what?
07:03 <tramshed> name one game that is open source that has NO spammers
07:03 <flex> GamePark
07:03 <Hoax-> luke-jr, ever argued/had a 'discussion' with flex before?
07:03 <flex> ok not open source
07:03 <tramshed> its a lot easier to do something like that if its pay to play and/or closed source
07:03 <tramshed> but someone can just modify the code to send back a bogus id
07:03 <tramshed> and get around it
07:03 <flex> how does making it open source be an issue?
07:03 <tramshed> see above
07:04  * luke-jr ponders running a for-pay auth server ☺
07:04 <tramshed> doubt anyone would pay
07:04 <luke-jr> tramshed: most likely not
07:04 <tramshed> an auth server would be good for tourneys and the likes though
07:04 <Vanhayes> 3AKA VANAHYES
07:04 <flex> if there is such a thing like fingerprinting or stuff like system ID'ing or such, how is someone with the source going to manipulate that?
07:04 <Vanhayes> woops
07:05 <Hoax-> lol
07:05 <Vanhayes> #aka vanhayes
07:05 <luke-jr> tramshed: well, the tourney would just whitelist players
07:05 <luke-jr> doesn't need its own auth server
07:05 <tramshed> flex, because the open source code would be what is making the fingerprint
07:05 <luke-jr> flex: lying about system ID
07:05 <tramshed> and could be modified to make a different one
07:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6574 swiftcoaster icarus vanhayes
07:05 <flex> system ID doesn't just come plain and simple..
07:05 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: ☺
07:05 <tramshed> it doesnt have to
07:05 <flex> it comes with a pass and encritpion..
07:05 <tramshed> you have the source code
07:05 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: if you do ever need to rename, let me know
07:05 <Vanhayes> so does it still take me rating then
07:06 <tramshed> its like not having the key but being the guy who makes the lock
07:06 <luke-jr> flex: that would require a closed source module
07:06 <tramshed> and even then, spammers could just make new accounts
07:06 <flex> well honestely out of all those dumbass spammers whos going to fuck the system over?
07:06 <tramshed> it isnt feasible to expect the devs to make a system beyond what they have already really
07:07 <tramshed> flex, you never met kess.
07:07 <tramshed> there is always one spammer who knows what he is doing, and he tells all the others
07:07 <flex> 90% of the unwanted people will be blocked
07:07 <tramshed> no they wont
07:07 <flex> ok let me explain
07:07  * luke-jr ponders a RBL service for Arma
07:07 <tramshed> flex, it just plain wont work
07:07 <flex> an auth system (standard system) with an user name and pass
07:08 <Hoax-> #hyphy
07:08 <armabot> Hoax-: lawlz of hi5 j00 n00bz ace pwnz or of i in life n robs ccz and moneyz $ _ $ of ur of the makez
07:08 <flex> how will source get past that?
07:08 <tramshed> how do they get the username and pass?
07:08 <flex> i don't exactly know so if you don't mind explaining
07:08 <tramshed> sign up at some site?
07:08 <flex> ok we're talking about preventing people using different already registered ID's
07:08 <tramshed> the issue with username/pass is that you cant really close registration for them
07:08 <luke-jr> flex: they just make a new account when one gets banned
07:08 <tramshed> yep
07:09 <flex> na lets take it step by step..
07:09 <tramshed> flex, with a username/reg system they can just make as many accounts as they want
07:09 <tramshed> which stops it right there
07:09 <tramshed> no more steps involved
07:09 <flex> if they create a new account, the "pc footprint" has their system blocked..
07:10 <flex> how do they go about unblocking themselves?
07:10 <tramshed> how does it get the footprint?
07:10 <Vanhayes> it wouldnt stop spammers but it would stop people using other peoples anme wouldnt it
07:10 <luke-jr> until they change the code generating the pc footprint
07:10 <tramshed> from the game?
07:10 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: exactly
07:10 <tramshed> if so then what luke just said
07:10 <tramshed> stopping spammers is up to the admins
07:10 <tramshed> if you dont want to administrate your server, dont bitch about spammers
07:10 <luke-jr> flex: basically, you would need TPM
07:11 <flex> but you're suggesting that the system would have no control over the client..
07:11 <tramshed> it inherently cant
07:12 <tramshed> because the code for the client is open
07:12 <flex> if the pc footprint on the client has been changed then.. what about rejecting the client?
07:12 <luke-jr> flex: there is no way to determine that
07:12 <tramshed> how can it tell?
07:12 <tramshed> new userpass/ new id, new ip
07:12 <luke-jr> except TPM
07:12 <tramshed> looks like a whole different person
07:12 <flex> and imaged system
07:12 <Hoax-> #morning  ciao xD
07:12 <tramshed> plus, if you force people to register for the game, they will stop playing
07:12 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@48.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
07:12 <flex> what..
07:12 <luke-jr> tbh, tho, I doubt any Arma spammers can compile the code
07:13 <armabot> Good Morning Hoax- Random Fortune: I have never understood the female capacity to avoid a direct answer to || any question. || -- Spock, "This Side of Paradise", stardate 3417.3
07:13 <flex> tramshed.. people have been playing this game for years
07:13 <flex> the majority of the gamers are vets
07:13 <flex> not new comers
07:13 <tramshed> yeah, and most people will be turned off by forced registration
07:13 <flex> how will people stop playing
07:13 <flex> urm who?
07:13 <tramshed> and there are TONS of newcomers
07:13 <flex> every game has a registeration
07:13 <tramshed> tron doesnt
07:14 <flex> lol, ok why should arma be different?
07:14 <tramshed> if I have to register to play a free game, odds are im just gonna go play something else
07:14 <flex> luke, do you know anything about TPM?
07:14 <luke-jr> sure
07:14 <flex> how does it work
07:14 <tramshed> your whole plan to stop spammers is WAY too over-involved and wont stop spammers
07:14 <tramshed> its a waste of time
07:14 <luke-jr> flex: it locks you out of your computer
07:15 <tramshed> if you want to waste your time and implement it though, its up to you
07:16 <flex> you need real life physical obstacles inorder to fully prevent people from getting past the system.. but arma doesn't have that but that doesn't mean it's not possible to prevent people from getting past
07:16 <flex> luke do you know what www.steampowered.com uses?
07:16 <tramshed> I look at it this way, tron is a just a small, fun, simple game, making playing it complex and/or making it invasive to a system or user is counter-productive or the game
07:17 <GodTodd> banks have real life physical obstacles...no wonder they never get robbed
07:17 <tramshed> lol
07:17 <flex> yeah lets just stick with keeping it in the dark ages.. removing basic rating systems and ladders and making the game more productive and competitive..
07:18 <flex> i don't see that as counter-productive..
07:18 <tramshed> like I said, make it then
07:18 <flex> i see doing nothing as more counter-productive
07:18 <tramshed> and watch it fail
07:18 <tramshed> its something that wont work as intended
07:19 <tramshed> and I see nothing wrong with adding usernames and passwords, but they should be optional
07:20 <flex> you said afew minutes ago nobody would want to sign up?
07:20 <GodTodd> not if forced
07:20 <tramshed> no, I said most people would be turned off by it if it wasnt an option
07:20 <tramshed> not that no one would
07:21 <luke-jr> flex: it uses closed source
07:21 <flex> ok so if the "guests" i.e the none registered have no listing on the ladders and ratings it would make the majority sign up..
07:22 <tramshed> maybe
07:22 <flex> because that would be the point in making an ID system so you can control the ladders and ratings more easly
07:22 <tramshed> most the players I know though dont really care about thier rating though
07:22 <flex> plus they can't vote or poll
07:22 <tramshed> vote in the game?
07:22 <flex> yeah
07:22 <tramshed> thats silly
07:22 <luke-jr> tramshed: most don't even know it exists
07:22 <tramshed> pointless restriction
07:23 <GodTodd> i do...my rating is the most important thing on life
07:23 <tramshed> how is keeping new players from voting going to help anything
07:23 <tramshed> besides offer an incentive to sign up
07:23 <GodTodd> keep hilary out of office?
07:23 <tramshed> lol
07:23 <GodTodd> hillary*
07:23 <flex> aye
07:23 <flex> it would prevent it being abused
07:23 <flex> most of the "guests" would be noobs
07:23 <tramshed> no it wouldnt
07:23 <tramshed> its a vote
07:24 <flex> giving them power is as useless as to not
07:24 <GodTodd> sure...cuz only noobs "abuse" stuff ;)
07:24 <tramshed> restricting the use of the game because they arent registered is stupid
07:24 <flex> at the end of the day why should they be able to vote kick someone?
07:24 <tramshed> thats like shareware almost
07:24 <tramshed> why shouldnt they?
07:24 <flex> why should day?
07:24 <tramshed> if someone is being an asshat, they should have every right to offer a poll to kick someone
07:24 <GodTodd> smacks of macrosloth "activation" stuff
07:24 <tramshed> and if others agree, they can vote yes
07:25 <tramshed> just because they can vote in a poll or make a poll doesnt make them the sole decider of a vote
07:25 <tramshed> thats why its called a vote
07:25 <luke-jr> tramshed: let the admins decide
07:25 <tramshed> and where your argument falls apart
07:25 <flex> well then the guest, if feels nessary to use his privlige should register
07:25 <flex> lol
07:25 <tramshed> optional is what im after
07:25 <tramshed> and thats forced registration
07:26 <flex> no it aint
07:26 <flex> it's regulation
07:26 <luke-jr> if admins want, they should be able to lockout unauthenticated players
07:26 <tramshed> its forcing people to register in order to be able to use all of the functions of the game
07:26 <flex> exactly luke
07:26 <tramshed> well, Ill never lock out new players from my server
07:26 <flex> no, it's regulating guests from abusing the functions
07:27 <tramshed> how can they abuse a vote?
07:27 <tramshed> really?
07:27 <flex> they are the anonymous ones..
07:27 <tramshed> they got one vote and so does everyone else
07:27 <luke-jr> I WANT TWO VOTES >:O
07:27  * GodTodd gives luke-jr 0 votes.
07:28 <flex> what's your problem with people registering..
07:28 <tramshed> forcing registration is my problem
07:28 <tramshed> if its optional then I have no issue with it
07:28 <flex> what's the problem about it..
07:28 <flex> if you gave me a valid reason i would be able to disagree or agree
07:28 <flex> but you got nothing
07:28 <tramshed> why should I have to make an account just to be able to play a jackass little game?
07:28 <flex> oh and i bet you have a hotmail account
07:28 <GodTodd> heh if i wanted to be forced to register for software i'd still be running windows
07:29 <flex> when fucking other game is with none authentication?
07:29 <tramshed> email is a different story, you have to have an account to make it work correctly, people couldnt use a public shared account very well
07:29 <tramshed> I dont have to register to play ut
07:29 <GodTodd> i could
07:29 <luke-jr> tramshed: not true
07:29 <luke-jr> see mailinator.com
07:29 <GodTodd> i wouldn't read your mail
07:29 <luke-jr> no account needed
07:29 <GodTodd> very much anyway
07:30 <flex> ut?
07:30 <tramshed> unreal tournament
07:30 <flex> you don't have a cd key?
07:30 <tramshed> a cdkey isnt registering
07:30 <tramshed> I dont have to go make an account
07:30 <flex> it's same thing
07:30 <flex> lmao
07:30 <tramshed> no its not
07:31 <tramshed> because you get the key when you buy the game
07:31 <flex> i don't have a key
07:31 <flex> IE, no online game play
07:31 <tramshed> and you can still play ut locally and on lans
07:31 <flex> well arma is FREE
07:31 <tramshed> without registering
07:31 <flex> CD is basic ID
07:31 <tramshed> which is why you SHOULDNT have to register
07:31 <tramshed> its free.
07:31 <flex> well if arma was paid, it would reduce the need to have a system to block people from making unlimited id's
07:32 <flex> because cd keys cost money
07:32 <tramshed> cept arma will never be a pay to play game
07:32 <flex> and unless you're a millionair you're not going to be able to keep up
07:32 <GodTodd> if arma was paid lots of people would leave it
07:32 <GodTodd> heh
07:32 <flex> ok dude, you're point was that it's unregistered but it isn't
07:32 <tramshed> bzflag then
07:32 <tramshed> warsow
07:32 <flex> cd key = physical object
07:32 <tramshed> et
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07:32 <GodTodd> scorched3d
07:32 <tramshed> all three of those require no registration
07:33 <tramshed> at all
07:33 <tramshed> and are quite popular games
07:33 <tramshed> all of them are free in every sense of the word too
07:33 <flex> i haven't played those so i can't actually know how it all works
07:34 <flex> are those games open source?
07:34 <tramshed> yep
07:34 <GodTodd> heh...freeciv doesn't require registration either
07:34 <flex> so how do they combat spam and nickname manipulation?
07:34 <tramshed> they kick people
07:34 <tramshed> just like every other game
07:34 <GodTodd> yep
07:34 <GodTodd> it's up to the server admin
07:35 <flex> right.. so what's there to prevent him from coming back
07:35 <tramshed> the ban on thier ip/nick
07:35 <flex> dynamic ip..
07:35 <flex> new nick
07:35 <tramshed> class bans
07:35 <flex> then?
07:35 <flex> class bans?
07:35 <tramshed> ive banned an entire isp before
07:35 <tramshed> plus, they only have so many ip blocks they can come from
07:35 <flex> well that's simply out..
07:36 <tramshed> lots of games do it
07:36 <tramshed> its a better solution than "Make everyone register and pray they dotn just make multiple accounts"
07:36 <flex> it wont be possible
07:36 <GodTodd> it's like an irc channel...do a blanket ban on an isp or isp chunk until they get tired of trying to re-enter then lift the ban
07:36 <flex> because the name would be taken
07:37 <flex> preventing nickname stealing
07:37 <tramshed> they can make different names
07:37 <tramshed> and keep on spammin
07:37 <flex> we've solved 1 problem
07:37 <flex> preventing people from using other peoples names
07:37 <flex> making ladders and rating systems more proper
07:37 <flex> and 'productive'
07:37 <tramshed> that wasnt what you were arguing for, you were arguing that it would stop spammers, which it wouldnt
07:38 <tramshed> plus, whats to stop someone from just bulk registering a bunch of names and then never using them
07:38 <flex> well it has benifits to stop the most
07:38 <GodTodd> and unwanted people
07:38 <tramshed> preventing anyone else from getting them
07:38 <GodTodd> don't forget those :)
07:38 <flex> you're talking complex code manipluation.. i can't argue with that
07:38 <tramshed> im talking just plain old making a bunch of accounts
07:38 <flex> but at the end of the day.. the basic "spammers" are only skilled enough to have a dynamic ip
07:38 <tramshed> you are saying they dont know how to make a new account?
07:39 <flex> i never said a username and password auth system would prevent spammers
07:39 <flex> i was on about footprint system i.e id'ing
07:39 <flex> you're rejecting people from signing up
07:39 <tramshed> [01:02] <flex> hoax, that's the thing, nobody wants to do it.. it's like stupid.. it will improve the game but not fix major problems like spammers and unwanted people
07:40 <flex> yes i was on about the user name and password feature
07:40 <flex> it's not being done because it wont fix spammers
07:40 <tramshed> and im not rejecting people from signing up
07:40 <flex> just fix the nickname stealers
07:40 <tramshed> im just saying it should be optional
07:40 <flex> well you are..
07:40 <tramshed> and NOT remove game features as an incentive to make them sign up
07:40 <flex> you're against people signing up for nothing apart from you're too lazy to create a user name and password
07:41 <tramshed> yeah, thats why ive been registered on the forums since 04
07:41 <tramshed> and have had this nickname since the early 90s
07:41 <tramshed> on all networks
07:41 <flex> ok well i don't see guests being able to post on the forums
07:41 <tramshed> but they also dont have to post on the forums to play the game
07:41 <tramshed> therefore, making it optional
07:41 <flex> my point is, no matter how weak the system is.. atleast there is something there to prevent the most from getting past
07:42 <tramshed> there already is
07:42 <tramshed> its called ignore
07:42 <tramshed> and ban
07:42 <tramshed> and kick
07:42 <flex> just because an experienced guy can pass the major code doesn't mean EVERYONE will know it
07:42 <tramshed> but it only takes one experienced guy to tell all the other asshats how to do it
07:43 <flex> you see that ever being a problem on arma?
07:43 <tramshed> yep
07:43 <tramshed> it was a major problem when ripping existed
07:43 <flex> I 100% agree to an auth system
07:43 <flex> you?
07:43 <tramshed> there was a whole forum devoted to keeping lists of ips of people who would rip
07:43 <tramshed> im fine with it if its optional
07:44 <tramshed> more features is always good
07:44 <tramshed> but forced things are bad
07:44 <flex> ok, i'm 100% fine with some sort of ID fingerprint
07:44 <flex> even if it can be bypassed it's still a good way to prevent the guy from coming on the server
07:44 <tramshed> that to me is pointless if you already have to make an account
07:45 <flex> the benefit is from actually preventing him from coming on with a different id
07:45 <tramshed> cept he could just use a different computer
07:45 <flex> ok how many computers does the guy have
07:45 <tramshed> ive got 5, and most people have access to more than one computer
07:45 <flex> we're talking laymans terms where the guy is limited to dynamic IP and that's about it
07:46 <tramshed> plus, how would you generate this id?
07:46 <tramshed> and how would you store it?
07:46 <flex> a system like "trail period"
07:46 <flex> you know on basic freeware
07:46 <tramshed> anything that has a trial period is shareware
07:47 <flex> shareware
07:47 <tramshed> however, I dont see how a trial period is going to generate a unique id
07:47 <flex> no i mean, as simple as a method such as trail period
07:48 <tramshed> so they only get to play x amount of time and then they have to register?
07:48 <flex> if they want to go unique ID then I guess that would be easy too
07:48 <flex> http://www.thepoolclub.com/ has a system where it stores the system on their servers
07:48 <flex> and doesn't allow another trail account to be created
07:48 <tramshed> the id thing is redundant if you are going to have a user/pass system
07:49 <tramshed> that trial stuff is stored in the registry
07:49 <flex> ok two methods, a file can be stored as a registery
07:49 <tramshed> like most software on windows
07:49 <tramshed> clean out the registry keys and you can make a new trial
07:49 <flex> or they can store the system ID info on the servers
07:49 <flex> well that's the thing, most people can't do that
07:50 <tramshed> its easily googleable
07:50 <flex> my point is it stops the X group that doesn't know how to
07:50 <tramshed> and would be a matter of minutes for someone to make a piece of software that would clean all the stuff out of the registry at the click of a button
07:51 <tramshed> you are looking at the situation like it needs more control, which is the main area where I disagree
07:51 <flex> we can move on to other more secure methods and you'll use it's exploit as a point but again it will prevent the 80% and then 90% of the users from passing it
07:51 <tramshed> you can also just enable spam protection
07:51 <flex> till we get to a solution where it prevents 99% of the users from braking it
07:51 <tramshed> there will never be a solution
07:52 <tramshed> as far as I can tell, pretty much all of the reasonable measures available to stop spamming and such have been implemented
07:52 <flex> exactly but it will STOP the 90% 91%, 92% ect from passing it
07:52 <flex> that's my point
07:52 <flex> something is better then nothing
07:52 <tramshed> so does a ban
07:52 <tramshed> the same people who know how to change thier ip know what the registry is
07:53 <tramshed> plus, making the assumption that just because they are spammers, they arent resourceful is a bad plan
07:53 <flex> we can be at it all day lol
07:53 <tramshed> look at dalnet for an example
07:53 <flex> a wall 10feet high is better then a wall 5 feet high
07:53 <flex> that's my whole argument
07:54 <tramshed> cept your 10 foot wall requires security cleanance
07:54 <flex> doesn't mean 10feet it's impossible to jump over
07:54 <tramshed> so how would you handle cases of accidental banning?
07:54 <tramshed> or players who stop playing
07:54 <flex> no you're mistaking my wall lol, i'm meaning that, the wall whoever high will stop the guys that can't pass
07:55 <flex> what do you mean by players who stop playing?
07:55 <tramshed> ive been spam silenced before just chatting normally because of an admin who had the tolerance set low
07:55 <tramshed> ok, I stop playing
07:55 <tramshed> no one else can ever use my name ever again?
07:55 <flex> right
07:55 <flex> that's an issue now?
07:55 <tramshed> it will quickly become one
07:55 <flex> yeah when the user population turns to 100million
07:56 <tramshed> you would have to have a system to deactivate users who dont play
07:56 <flex> fine unused accounts removed if not used for more then 1year
07:56 <flex> happy?
07:56 <flex> or 5years
07:56 <flex> whatever is agreed to
07:56 <flex> i wouldn't even put a date on it
07:56 <tramshed> the whole thing is, you work required is not worth the gain
07:56 <flex> because who cares
07:56 <tramshed> I rarely ever see spam problems on tron anyways
07:57 <tramshed> you=the
07:57 <flex> when a guy is doing something that is against the rules of the server and gets banned
07:57 <flex> comes back in again because of the lack of security
07:57 <flex> that is spam
07:57 <tramshed> if he keeps comin back you ban his ip
07:57 <flex> not nessary as someone typing a couple of lines on the chat
07:57 <flex> ok he has a dynamic ip
07:57 <tramshed> and if he keeps changing his ip you ban his ip class
07:57 <flex> no possible
07:57 <tramshed> very possible
07:57 <flex> you got other people on his isp
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07:57 <flex> it's unfair
07:57 <tramshed> its very rare for two people to be playing from the same ip class
07:58 <tramshed> yeah, but isps generally divvy out certain classes to different geographical areas
07:58 <flex> yeah well, still there are better methods
07:59 <tramshed> I dont see how your method is any beter
07:59 <tramshed> better
07:59 <tramshed> people can just make multiple accounts
07:59 <tramshed> and spam thier nuts off
07:59 <flex> username and password would fix the nickname steaking and spoofing, then the ID recording or registery method would prevent them from coming again
07:59 <tramshed> it wouldnt prevent them
07:59 <flex> if once the problem increases where more people know how to get past it then the system can upgrade or go with a sub ip block
08:00 <flex> prevent them from what?
08:00 <tramshed> from coming back
08:00 <tramshed> you are assuming the spammers cant google
08:00 <flex> 9 out of 10 would probably be blocked
08:00 <tramshed> and that none of them can read code
08:00 <tramshed> 9 out of 10 are stopped with a simple ip ban
08:00 <flex> again 9 or 8 out of 10 would be stopped
08:01 <tramshed> well, like I said, you go ahead and spend the time making it, and Ill just kick back and watch it fail miserably
08:01 <flex> my point is, again.. if the wall is 10feet it would prevent the people that can't jump 10feet past, and the guys that can jump 11feet will, but then the system can improve and make the wall 20feet
08:01 <flex> I hope that example settles this
08:01 <tramshed> not at all
08:02 <tramshed> because one of those guys is gonna show the others what a ladder is
08:02 <flex> a wall that's 10feet is better then no wall :p
08:02 <GodTodd> they can make it if provided a ladder 1 foot higher than the wall
08:02 <tramshed> and now they are all jumpin over the wall
08:02 <GodTodd> whether they've never used a ladder or not
08:02 <GodTodd> ever*
08:02 <tramshed> and an admin with a gun is better than a wall
08:02 <flex> lol, that's not a 0day issue
08:02 <tramshed> which gets back to its up to the admins
08:02 <flex> it takes time for people to find out
08:02 <tramshed> id give it a few days tops
08:02 <tramshed> and someone will have figured out how to bypass it
08:02 <flex> MSN Gaming Zone had that issue
08:03 <flex> once an "unban" was found it was spread but still people had trouble with it
08:03 <tramshed> and they are closed source
08:03 <GodTodd> for example: us immigration laws prevent 90% of illegal immigrants from entering the country is truly a false statement
08:03 <flex> that's a system that isn't actually prevent them frm entering :p
08:03 <tramshed> if tron was closed it would be immensely easier to implement what you are suggesting
08:03 <flex> don't get that into the argument
08:03 <tramshed> but its not, and thats why it wont work
08:04 <flex> a wall that's 10feet is better then no wall :p
08:04 <flex> if it stops 1 guy it's a success
08:04 <GodTodd> a ladder that's 11 feet is better than that :P
08:04 <tramshed> a guard with a gun is better than any wall
08:05 <flex> at the end of the day, arma would not be "banning" anyone, it would just make it easier on the server admins to do what they want
08:05 <flex> and that's the whole issue here
08:05 <tramshed> and making it harder on the users to do what they want
08:05 <tramshed> namely play the game
08:05 <flex> lol
08:05 <flex> yeah right
08:06 <GodTodd> how is it easier on the admins exactly?
08:06 <flex> you know, it's like "hey did you ip ban him" - "yes, i did"    then the guy says "urm well then.. that's about it, uneless you wanna ban his isp"
08:07 <tramshed> you dont have to ban the whole isp
08:07 <tramshed> you can ban a class
08:07 <flex> you're still banning quite alot of people
08:07 <luke-jr> you're still arguing about this?
08:07 <tramshed> im done
08:07 <tramshed> let him make it
08:07 <tramshed> and Ill laugh at the results
08:08 <flex> I have/had first hand experience with this shit tramshed.. i had to deal with a guy spoofing my name and chatting shit on servers
08:08 <luke-jr> flex: how about we make registration work first, then you can argue making it mandatory later?
08:08 <flex> yeah np
08:08 <luke-jr> wanna help?
08:09 <tramshed> so laugh at the guy
08:09 <tramshed> people who know you will know its not you
08:09 <flex> oh i come on with my "flex" name and get bullshit frmo random people
08:09 <flex> and get polled
08:09 <flex> what have i done to take this
08:09 <flex> just got into a fight with the wrong dude?
08:09 <luke-jr> /whois flex => flex@players.armagetronad.net
08:09 <luke-jr> /whois flex => 40384093242432042@anonymous.armagetronad.net
08:10 <flex> that's the thing tramshed, not everyone knows whos flex
08:10 <flex> if the guy flex tks everyone and leaves
08:10 <flex> or does worser
08:10 <flex> and insults
08:10 <flex> come on now..
08:10 <flex> it's like fighting for the criminals in a criminal case
08:11 <flex> the rights should be on my side if i am in the RIGHT not, on his side for his right to do whatever he feels like
08:11 <luke-jr> flex: btw, even with authentication, you will need to /whois to see someone's account info
08:11 <flex> how exactly are you doing this luke?
08:11 <luke-jr> flex: ?
08:12 <flex> ID(username), nickname(dynamic) and password?
08:12 <flex> or just id and password
08:12 <luke-jr> more or less just throwing account/pass on top of the existing stuff
08:13 <flex> ok well it would force guest players from having default names
08:13 <flex> such as guest3432432
08:13 <luke-jr> …
08:13 <luke-jr> the displayed name would be unaffected
08:13 <flex> how else are you going to prevent someone frmo using existing names?
08:13 <luke-jr> not
08:14 <luke-jr> if someone really cares if you are flex, they can /whois you
08:14 <flex> so how does "flex" be locked to my account
08:14 <luke-jr> it won't be
08:14 <flex> oh
08:14 <flex> why don't you want to do it like that?
08:14 <luke-jr> that's a pain
08:15 <flex> it's better
08:15 <tramshed> so do it yourself
08:16 <flex> far too complicated for me :p
08:16 <GodTodd> when looking at the complexity of the implementation of any system on AA it's always best to remember it's a fully voluntarily developed game
08:24 <GodTodd> #dance
08:24 <armabot> GodTodd does the 'I killed chat' dance.
09:18 <Vanhayes> #ping
09:18 <armabot> pong
09:20 <flex> #aka hoax
09:20 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'hoax'!
09:20 <flex> #aka small_penis
09:21 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'small_penis'!
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10:43 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'ugy'!
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18:04 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7542 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Added dedicated build dependency to dedicated server release target.
18:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7543 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/build_tools/dmg-create: My system wasn't quite happy with the way the temporary was created, for some reason. Changed it a bit.
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19:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7544 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/WorkMakefile: I can't build RPMs any more, hence remove the rpm dependency of z-man-home.
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19:49 <z-man> Now, do we have a German translation for "mates" that also starts with m?
19:50 <vinavil> anybody would like to help me rganizing Ladle 13th?
19:50 <vinavil> z-man: use "c" as compagni/companeros/bla bla bla...
19:50 <guru3> "My Friends" translated
19:50 <guru3> mein... blah blah
19:51 <z-man> ah, great
19:51 <guru3> could actually use "My Friends" in english, come to think of it
19:52 <vinavil> how do i find the most up to date language file?
19:53 <guru3> should be svn
19:54  * vinavil wonders where is the notorious svn
19:54 <guru3> http://sf.net/projects/armagetronad
19:54 <guru3> there are links from there
19:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7545 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/deutsch.txt: Translated new language items.
19:57 <z-man> You can also subscribe to the RSS feed for our SVN changes:
19:57 <z-man> http://cia.vc/stats/project/armagetronad/.rss
19:57 <guru3> :o rss
19:58 <z-man> The advantage is that the items send you directly to an interface where you can get the files and view the changes.
19:58 <guru3> cool
19:59 <z-man> The mac build is giving me headaches :(
19:59 <guru3> is there an xcode project?
19:59 <z-man> It crashes/hangs in optimized mode when I press ^
19:59 <guru3> maybe i should try fiddling with it for a bit
19:59 <z-man> yea, sure.
19:59 <guru3> well... that's bad
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20:00 <z-man> And the callstack does not contain anything written by us.
20:03 <vinavil> guru3: thanks for have enlighted me
20:03 <guru3> no problem
20:09 <z-man> Hmm, it seems like it is not really our fault, an SDL function does not return, as far as I can tell debugging a release build.
20:09  * z-man hates release builds
20:09  * z-man hates macs
20:09  * z-man hates xcode
20:19 <guru3> i have a fan in my desktop that's squeaking
20:19 <guru3> and it's driving me nuts
20:20 <guru3> and now that i've said that it's stopped
20:20 <guru3> lousy POS
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20:32 <guru3> z-man: should i do the spanish translation for the friends stuff?
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20:39  * epsy wonders if that Joragoo's script would work in opera mini
20:39 <guru3> got an a and d key?
20:40 <wrtlprnft> epsy: proably not
20:40 <wrtlprnft> most of the rendering stuff is done by opera's proxy servers
20:40 <epsy> guru3, that's the problem i'm thinking about heh
20:40 <epsy> wrtlprnft, true
20:40 <guru3> i wonder if it would work on the 770
20:45 <z-man> guru3: the spanish and french translations are HEAVILY out of date
20:45 <z-man> I don't think any work went into them since
20:45 <guru3> updating all of the spanish... could turn out a bit weird if i do it
20:45 <guru3> but a few lines here and there could be ok
20:47 <z-man> I'm not stopping you :)
20:47 <guru3> how does one go about translating?
20:48 <z-man> You call the python update script
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20:48 <guru3> okay
20:48 <z-man> and then you edit the file and always look for the UNTRANSLATED lines.
20:48 <guru3> i may have someone i can trick into doing french translation
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20:54 <guru3> you know, there are some things that are just really difficult to translate -_-
20:58 <vinavil> i started the italian translation some months ago, but it is still in working
20:59 <guru3> it would help if there weren't so many darn configuration options
21:04 <vinavil> the problem of italian is that doesn't exist the "computer talking style"
21:05 <vinavil> in english you just put away the subject and do the "ing" conjugation
21:06 <guru3> -_-
21:06 <guru3> cheap isn't it
21:06 <vinavil> in italian doesn't exist such a thing
21:07 <vinavil> "watching Player 1" would be "guardando Player 1" that sounds very bad
21:08 <guru3> z-man: when i'm filling in the untranslated, do i delete the original text or does the script do it?
21:08 <guru3> (somehow)
21:08 <guru3> it's quite possible that my spanish translations will sound very bad because i'm not a native speaker
21:09 <z-man> You can leave the original, it's just a comment
21:09 <z-man> and if you run the script again, it will be deleted.
21:09 <guru3> uncomment the successful translations?
21:10 <z-man> Yes :)
21:10 <guru3> ok
21:12 <guru3> i'm really wondering who wrote the english here "before it takes harm"
21:15 <vinavil> huh
21:15 <guru3> yeah
21:16 <guru3> #ORIGINAL TEXT:               Minimum distance of a cycle to a wall on either side before it takes harm.
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21:20 <guru3> gotta stop translating and cook, then eat, bbl
21:24 <z-man> guru3: me, probably :)
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21:43 <tramshed> there are quite a few spanish speaking players, might be able to get one of them to do it
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21:49 <epsy> tramshed, there's madmax madmax_
22:00 <vinavil> madmax speaks portuguese, not spanish
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22:02 <epsy> oops
22:02 <epsy> :)
22:06 <beta|AoS|> espy !!
22:09 <luke-jr> btw
22:09 <luke-jr> Arma kept segfaulting when I tried to play last night
22:09 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 branch
22:10 <luke-jr> so one of those recent commits is buggy
22:11 <vinavil> what is the krawall password?
22:12 <luke-jr> I don't think that question makes sense
22:13 <vinavil> sorry luke-jr. what is Krawall?
22:13 <tramshed> jw.mx does too
22:13 <luke-jr> vinavil: Google
22:13 <vinavil> luke-jr: fuck me :)
22:14 <luke-jr> no
22:14 <vinavil> please
22:15 <vinavil> why does armagetronad language file include options for Krawall user/password?
22:17 <luke-jr> because it used to be supported
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22:23 <vinavil> is it possible to find a new use for it?
22:24 <vinavil> for example accounts use to play online
22:35 <wrtlprnft> i think the client side stuff is still there
22:36 <wrtlprnft> so you *could* in theory write a server for it
22:36 <wrtlprnft> but a) only z-man knows how the krawall system was supposed to work and b) he doesn't want to be bound to the krawall implementation
22:36 <wrtlprnft> at least the said that on the forums somewhere
22:39 <luke-jr> vinavil: it's insecure, IIRC
22:42 <z-man> ct|kyle: ePlayer::teamListID would be it.
22:42 <ct|kyle> ok
22:42 <ct|kyle> thanks z-man
22:45 <z-man> That mac trouble was false alarm, by the way. I don't know what caused it, but a full rebuild fixed it.
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22:53 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
22:53 <armabot> pong
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22:59 <Your_mom_arma> hey van
22:59 <Vanhayes> hello
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23:00 <Your_mom_arma> hey GodTodd
23:01 <GodTodd> yo
23:01 <Vanhayes> yo
23:03 <Vanhayes> so.. has there been a game of civ lately
23:08 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: ?
23:12 <Vanhayes> btw luke-jr I tried to get people to screw with your rating system but the wouldnt do it, I guess people take them somewhat seriously
23:12 <Vanhayes> #rating player 5
23:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: player_5 is 844th with a rating of 1491-1747 (from 1150-1850)
23:13 <Vanhayes> $aka player 5
23:13 <Vanhayes> #aka player 5
23:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6929 player_5 player_6 player_7 player_8
23:13 <madmax_> don't think many people know about it...
23:14 <Vanhayes> I guess people just didnt want to do it then
23:14 <Vanhayes> #aka vanhayes
23:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6574 swiftcoaster icarus vanhayes
23:14 <Vanhayes> #aka madmax
23:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿5573 madmax2 vim madmax
23:15 <Your_mom_arma> screwing with luke's stats... a how to guide. change name to stat_whore; enable player 2; join empty server luke monitors; make player 2 die; ??? ; profit
23:16 <Vanhayes> i tried to make it that it was player 1 me and player 2 luke-jr, but it was in an empty fort cafe, all it did was say uke commited suicide when I killed him
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7546 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (7 files in 4 dirs):
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Added boolean return value to console (fullscreen) messages.
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Added escape possibility to server redirections.
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Removed redirection spam protection, it makes no sense any more.
23:17 <Vanhayes> then I started changing my name to the top 25, thats when luke banned my ip from name changes
23:17 <Your_mom_arma> haha
23:17 <madmax_> lol
23:18 <Vanhayes> I could have been the best in a day, or maybe it would have taken them down, not quite sure
23:18 <Vanhayes> #rating Vanhayes
23:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: vanhayes is 1506th with a rating of 1428-1506 (from 1409-1491)
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23:22 <Vanhayes> #list alias
23:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, roulette, 42, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, cters, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, (3 more messages)
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23:22 <Vanhayes> #bigbrother
23:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: rain seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
23:22 <Vanhayes> #help bigbrother
23:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: (bigbrother <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
23:23 <vinavil> indeed
23:25 <Vanhayes> spidey_, luke-jr Lucifer_bed GodTodd Your_mom_arma anyone up for a game of civ tonight
23:27 <Your_mom_arma> hmm, perhaps
23:40 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: die
23:40 <luke-jr> :þ
23:40 <Vanhayes> heh
23:40 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: but maybe
23:41 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: "Vanhayes: so.. has there been a game of civ lately"
23:41 <Vanhayes> btw what would happen if all the people in the top 25 were to be the same name
23:41 <Vanhayes> er, same pesn
23:41 <Vanhayes> person*
23:42 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: likely, if they didn't rename in servers
23:42 <luke-jr> obviously the same person playing under multiple UIDs would end up with the same rating
23:43 <Vanhayes> I mean, if say I went and reneamed to everyone of the top 25 would I then be number 1 with a tonne of alias
23:44 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: nope
23:44 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: in case you didn't notice, you never took top 25
23:44 <luke-jr> you just took their names
23:44 <luke-jr> #aka smile
23:44 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿3413 smile
23:44 <luke-jr> so rank #1 showed ¿3413 instead of smile
23:45 <Vanhayes> hmm so if i renamed to smile, he wouldnt get the aka of vanhaes
23:45 <luke-jr> nope
23:45 <luke-jr> vanhayes would get the aka of smile
23:45 <luke-jr> #aka vanhayes
23:45 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿6574 swiftcoaster icarus vanhayes
23:45 <luke-jr> so smile would point to 6574
23:46 <luke-jr> instead of 3413 like it does now
23:46 <Vanhayes> so me using alot of different peoples names didnt really screw with anything
23:46 <luke-jr> it did
23:46 <luke-jr> it stole their names
23:49 <Vanhayes> so their names would then make my rating go u
23:49 <Vanhayes> up*
23:51 <luke-jr> yes
23:51 <luke-jr> when they played next
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23:58 <Vanhayes> so if someone were to use my name, would they get me as an alias or would it  not work since I cant get anymore names
23:59 <luke-jr> nobody can rename to you anymore

Log from 2008-01-19:
--- Day changed Sat Jan 19 2008
00:00 <Vanhayes> #aka slash
00:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6766 omega2 slash
00:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
00:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): ati-8-01-x86_64, freako, Player 1, Player 5, Polish n00b!, Vanhayes2, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ earplugs
00:02 <Vanhayes> ##aka polish noob!
00:02 <Vanhayes> ##aka Polish n00b!
00:02 <Vanhayes> ##àaka Polish n00b!
00:02 <Vanhayes> #aka Polish n00b!
00:03 <Vanhayes> there we gp
00:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿5739 santa_claus polish_noob!
00:03 <Vanhayes> #aka vanhayes2
00:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¿6969 vanhayes2
00:08 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: please stop trying to mess with it
00:08 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:09 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: its called bug testing
00:09 <Vanhayes> ok I will stop messing with it, I will
00:09 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: no, it's called exploiting known and unfixable flaws
00:09 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:10 <luke-jr> well, temporily unfixable
00:10 <luke-jr> the fix won't be ready nor effective for months at least
00:10 <Vanhayes> me. I will stop it, me I wont do it any more, me, as in I
00:10 <luke-jr> …
00:10 <vinavil> vanhayes, can i rename myself now? is the test ended? they are calling me van
00:10 <Vanhayes> heh ya go ahead
00:11 <Vanhayes> i reccomend the name smile
00:11 <Your_mom_arma> when did #armagetron grow to nearly 30 users?
00:11 <Vanhayes> not sure
00:11 <luke-jr> vinavil: why are you listening to Vanhayes?
00:12 <Vanhayes> shits and giggles im guessing
00:12 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: when Lucifer left? :þ
00:12 <Your_mom_arma> boo
00:12 <luke-jr> lol
00:12 <Vanhayes> luci left, who is Lucifer_bed then
00:13 <luke-jr> Lucifer that forgot to leave I think
00:14 <Your_mom_arma> I see luci in other channels
00:16 <Vanhayes> bbl
00:16 <tramshed> o;ikuj;k
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00:21 <vinavil> luke-jr: why not
00:23 <luke-jr> wtf?
00:24 <vinavil> "I don't think that question makes sense"
00:24 <tramshed> I dont think this conversation makes sense anymore
00:25 <GodTodd> conversations cease to make sense whenever the left side of the screen contains *luke*
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00:26 <Your_mom_arma> hey ghab
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00:26 <GodTodd> haha
00:26  * Your_mom_arma hangs head in shame
00:26 <GodTodd> denied!
00:26 <GodTodd> :D
00:26 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
00:27 <tramshed> I havnt seen you play in a while your_mom
00:27 <tramshed> or did you stop playing the swampland servers?
00:28  * GodTodd notes sadly that a bunch of people that frequent this channel wouldn't even know what movie he just referenced because it was "before thier time" :/
00:28 <Your_mom_arma> im sorry tramshed, but do I know you?
00:29 <tramshed> im /dev/null
00:29 <Your_mom_arma> oh
00:31 <Your_mom_arma> swampland started to suck so I don't go there anymore. also I almost always play with random nicks
00:31 <Your_mom_arma> see aliases^
00:32 <luke-jr> random nicks ftl
00:34 <Your_mom_arma> random people I don't know asking me so many questions, that I can't play 1 round of arma with my normal nick ftl
00:35 <luke-jr> lol
00:35 <luke-jr> so pick a new nick and stick to it
00:36 <Your_mom_arma> I tried that... loose lips sink ships
00:36 <tramshed> lol
00:36 <tramshed> you try my server yet your_mom?
00:36 <tramshed> lag-free swampland
00:37 <tramshed> lol
00:37 <tramshed> just take the mantle of the Real Player 1
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01:35 <Program1> wrtl youre here?
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01:43 <luke-jr> Program1: who are you?
01:45 <Program1> oh stupid irc thing -.-
01:45 -!- Program1 is now known as freako
01:47 <freako> i wanted to ask wrtl, if he finds good enuf, that he can warn someone or sumthing
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02:06 <beta|AoS|> Frenchellent !
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02:10 <BillyBob3> #roulette
02:10 <armabot> BillyBob3: *click*
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02:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7547 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Added subcultures managed by one master server each.
02:37 <luke-jr> z-man: hey, just had a server lock up completely :x
02:37 <luke-jr> fyi
02:37 <luke-jr> http://pastebin.com/m760fa440 has a backtrace; anything I should do in gdb to help?
02:38 <luke-jr> seems to be a write() blocking somehow
02:39 <z-man> Are you running your  servers inside a script that parse their output?
02:39 <luke-jr> define parse
02:39 <luke-jr> actually, yes, this one was no matter what definition
02:40 <z-man> Doesn't matter :) As long as there is something that is supposed to accept the output.
02:40 <luke-jr> though it continued to hang after the script is gone
02:40 <z-man> Well, make an experiment: do
02:41 <z-man> armagetronad-dedicated | less
02:41 <z-man> and observe what happens when you don't press page down often enough.
02:41 <z-man> I don't know what is supposed to happen when you kill less, though.
02:42  * z-man was referring to the program less in the last sentence :)
02:43 <z-man> If you want to avoid the blocking in any case, put a buffering cat between the server and your script.
02:43  * z-man really starts to wish standard unix programs had better names.
02:43 <luke-jr> my script does nothing but throw it in a log and to another script ;)
02:44 <z-man> and the other script?
02:44 <z-man> The only way I know that output can block is if the receiver currently refuses further input.
02:45 <z-man> And no matter how long your processing pipe chain, if the last program stops receiving input, the whole chain freezes.
02:45 <luke-jr> the other script shouldn't block either, it just sends it to my server
02:45 <luke-jr> buffering when it can't connect
02:46 <luke-jr> actually, that last bit is wrong, it only buffers prior to reconnect attempts
02:47 <luke-jr> but either way, that script shouldn't be in that situation any time recently
02:48 <z-man> The only way I know that output can block is if the receiver currently refuses further input :)
02:48 <z-man> The bits of code in the callstack all have been there for ages and never made problems before.
02:49 <z-man> It could also be the input that is acutally blocking.
02:49 <luke-jr> yeah, no problems before for me either :|
02:49 <luke-jr> input is blocking write⁇
02:50 <z-man> yeah, input and output are linked, let me recall how :)
02:50 <z-man> I think it just means that whenever you read from stdin, stdout is automatically flushed.
02:50 <luke-jr> either way, input should never be blocked either :|
02:50 <luke-jr> that's C's buffer I think
02:50 <z-man> Well, it can block if I mess up my elimination sumo script.
02:50 <luke-jr> the stacktrace would be different
02:51 <z-man> everytime.cfg is including a named pipe there :)
02:51 <luke-jr> o
02:51 <luke-jr> interesting
02:51 <z-man> works fine as long as I keep feeding it.
02:51 <luke-jr> ☺
02:52 <z-man> did the server use 100% cpu when you stopped it?
02:52 <luke-jr> no
02:52 <luke-jr> hm, the scripts appear to have not died eithe
02:52 <luke-jr> ratings script is sitting in nanosleep, so it seems still sane
02:53 <luke-jr> KAD is blocking on a write, but I can't guess where to
02:53 <luke-jr> the only things KAD should be writing to that aren't files are arma's stdin and the ratings script
02:54 <luke-jr> #0  0x00baf36e in __write_nocancel () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0
02:54 <z-man> Wait, KAD reads arma's stdout (indirectly) and writes to its stdin?
02:54 <luke-jr> wtf is pthread blocking for
02:54 <luke-jr> z-man: KAD reads arma's stdout and writes to its stdin
02:54 <luke-jr> different data, of course
02:55 <luke-jr> Arma stdout -> KAD -> (log, bot)
02:55 <luke-jr> (bot stdout, fifo) -> KAD -> Arma stdin
02:55 <spidey_> sounds like luci's wrapper
02:55 <z-man> Looks deadlock prone.
02:55 <luke-jr> z-man: all in a select loop
02:56 <luke-jr> oh
02:56 <luke-jr> you mean, if both sides try to send a lot of data at once?
02:56 <luke-jr> :\
02:57 <z-man> well, yeah, or if for just one second one is busy doing other things
02:57 <z-man> say arma currently takes no input
02:57 <z-man> KAD tries to give it some, can't, and blocks.
02:57 <z-man> KAD can't take input now.
02:57 <z-man> If the next thing arma tries is to send KAD some data, it will block, too.
02:57 <luke-jr> arma always takes input :o
02:57 <z-man> not while its output is blocking :)
02:57 <luke-jr> o
02:58 <luke-jr> hmm
02:58 <z-man> You need a very tolerant buffering cat in between.
02:58 <z-man> a program that always writes when the other end is ready to receive,
02:59 <z-man> and always reads when the other end is ready to write.
02:59 <luke-jr> yeah
02:59 <z-man> umm, of course, it is allowed not to write when there is no data :)
02:59 <luke-jr> heh
02:59 <z-man> I used such a program once as an intermediate step in video processing
02:59 <luke-jr> sounds like I should add that to KAD
03:00 <z-man> yeah
03:00 <luke-jr> now I see the use of select()'s ready-to-write…
03:00 <luke-jr> :þ
03:04 <z-man> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/pipebuf/
03:04 <z-man> that's the program I was using back then.
03:04 <luke-jr> wtf… apache won't reap zombies
03:05 <luke-jr> eww, two processes
03:05 <z-man> better than deadlocks :)
03:06 <z-man> but it looks like it is optimized for other purposes. You certainly want no empty buffer warning.
03:08 <luke-jr> ?
03:10 <luke-jr> :o
03:10 <luke-jr> the ratings server *was* dead
03:11 <luke-jr> ooooo, the ratings script's usleep was delaying a reconnect attempt >_<
03:11 <luke-jr> good thing it only affected ones I host, I guess
03:11 <luke-jr> (since others will be using a seperate tail -F)
03:12 <z-man> :)
03:14 <luke-jr> hm
03:14 <luke-jr> select() will let me know when one is ready for writing to.. but how can I determine how MUCH I can write? :|
03:15 <z-man> One byte?
03:18 <luke-jr> …
03:18 <luke-jr> heck, even that isn't guaranteed-- what if their read() times out before my write()?
03:19 <z-man> Well, the manpage explicitly says that if select gives you clearance, the write WILL NOT BLOCK
03:19 <z-man> I read that as "the buffer size does not matter"
03:20 <z-man> and "whatever you throw at it, the OS will store it in a buffer for later processing and return to you immedeately"
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03:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7548 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/configure.ac: Everyone gets a math library, even dedicated servers.
03:50 <ct|kyle> ahh servers can't do math
03:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7549 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/ (tConfiguration.cpp tResourceManager.cpp): Moved RINCLUDE to a better home.
03:52 <z-man> time++; strangenessOfCommitMessages++;
03:53 <ct|kyle> i'm still looking for results menu
04:02 <z-man> what results?
04:03 <ct|kyle> when you press tab it shows results like points and stuff
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04:31 <luke-jr> a math library?
04:32 <luke-jr> why are we making such a major change in 0.2.8? :x
05:27 <luke-jr> odd
05:28 <ct|kyle> .aka luke-jr
05:28 <ct|kyle> #aka luke-jr
05:28 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿8 praise_jesus luke-jr
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06:18 <luke-jr> O.o
06:18 <luke-jr> beta|AoS|: that you?
06:19 <beta|AoS|> Me what ?
06:19 <luke-jr> gnu/screen?
06:19 <luke-jr> and all those?
06:19 <beta|AoS|> Hm ?
06:19 <luke-jr> dunno, someone's using aka in private ;P
06:20 <beta|AoS|> I used the name "GNU/Screen yes"
06:20 <beta|AoS|> Not in private on #ct
06:20 <luke-jr> o
06:20 <luke-jr> #ct is empty
06:21 <beta|AoS|> I meant #crazt-tronners
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07:28 <luke-jr> omg teh interwebz are down
07:29  * luke-jr stabs bad BGP or whatever
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07:32 <Loor> Hello?
07:33 <Loor>  I'll  come back later
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08:44 <Program2> #rating freako
08:44 <armabot> Program2: freako is 141st with a rating of 1604-1638 (from 1535-1602)
08:45 <Program2> $rating freako
08:45 <Program2> #rating freako
08:45 <armabot> Program2: freako is 144th with a rating of 1603-1637 (from 1535-1602)
08:49 <Program2> #ratinf freako
08:49 <Program2> #rating freako
08:49 <armabot> Program2: freako is 151st with a rating of 1601-1635 (from 1535-1602)
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08:54 <Program2> #rating freako
08:54 <armabot> Program2: freako is 150th with a rating of 1602-1636 (from 1535-1602)
08:57 <Program2> #rating freako
08:57 <armabot> Program2: freako is 150th with a rating of 1602-1635 (from 1535-1602)
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09:13 <wrtlprnft> #later tell freako find what good enough?
09:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:24 <luke-jr> lol
09:35 <Vanhayes> civ anyone
10:05 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: perhaps
10:05 <luke-jr> but I just found out I'm not in the USA
10:06 <Vanhayes> are you part of that first nations split
10:06 <luke-jr> Lakota
10:06 <luke-jr> apparently includes Omaha
10:06 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: if enough people want to play, I'm in
10:07  * luke-jr brb: grabbing something to eat
10:07 <Vanhayes> spidey_, Lucifer_bed GodTodd anyone want to play
10:09 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: hachi is up on 5556
10:09 <Vanhayes> ok, ill join in a  min
10:14 <luke-jr> back
10:15 <luke-jr> I hope this Republic of Lakota doesn't turn out to be racist or anti-Christian
10:20 <Vanhayes> if it really breaks off into its own country what would the white americans living there be then
10:21 <luke-jr> if we renounce US citizenship, we can be citizens
10:21 <luke-jr> I emailed asking why I am required to do that ;)
10:21  * luke-jr notes he lives in the claimed territory
10:21 <Vanhayes> if not you have to leave?
10:21 <luke-jr> dunno
10:22 <luke-jr> not for now
10:22 <luke-jr> they said they won't be pursing liens against private property owners for now
10:22 <luke-jr> we rent, but the owner is not native
10:23 <luke-jr> we should definately check into dual citizenship before we buy tho
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10:33 <luke-jr> hi z-man
10:35 <z-man> morning, what did I do wrong this time? :)
10:36 <luke-jr> dunno
10:36 <luke-jr> greetings from the Republic of Lakota?
10:38 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: …
10:38 <spidey_> ?
10:38 <luke-jr> spidey_: ⁇
10:38 <Vanhayes> well if its just two of us, is not that fun, need at least 3
10:38 <luke-jr> spidey_:
10:38 <spidey_> ..
10:38 <spidey_> WHAT
10:39 <spidey_> WHAT WHAT WHAT?!
10:39 <luke-jr> Vanhayes:
10:39 <luke-jr> spidey_:
10:39 <Vanhayes> luke-jr,
10:39 <spidey_> i don't talk to illegal immegrants, go away
10:39 <Vanhayes> spidey_,
10:39 <spidey_> i don't talk to illegal immegrants, go away
10:39 <Vanhayes> im not an immegrant to the US
10:39 <spidey_> playing civ?
10:39 <spidey_> better restart
10:39 <spidey_> cause i'm coming :|
10:39 <luke-jr> haven't clicked ready yet
10:39 <Vanhayes> havnet started yet
10:40 <spidey_> see how cool i am, you waited for me
10:40 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, what version
10:40 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I'm an exegrant?
10:40 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: 2.1 of course
10:40 <spidey_> do not
10:40 <spidey_> download 2.1.2
10:40 <spidey_> i HATE the client
10:40 <luke-jr> …
10:40 <luke-jr> try SDL spidey_
10:40 <Vanhayes> thats the one i just dl on this comp
10:40 <Vanhayes> so what version exactly?
10:41 <spidey_> i'm using gtk2
10:41 <luke-jr> 2.1
10:41 <luke-jr> fine
10:41 <spidey_> i'ma be the confederates
10:41 <spidey_> woot
10:41 <luke-jr> btw, I have it configured for size 2 + aifill 20
10:41 <luke-jr> change it if you want
10:41 <luke-jr> but don't whine if you don't change it
10:41 <spidey_> oh hell no
10:42 <Vanhayes> i suggest the sioux luke-jr
10:42 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: just did
10:42 <luke-jr> tho Sioux is an insult to the Lakota apparently :þ
10:42 <Vanhayes> ya, it is a generilation
10:43 <luke-jr> it's "snake"
10:43 <Vanhayes> well I guess that too
10:43 <luke-jr> :þ
10:43 <Vanhayes> but seeing as sioux can me 7 tribes
10:43 <luke-jr> so can Lakota
10:43 <luke-jr> the funny thing is, none of them support the new country
10:43 <luke-jr> :x
10:44 <Vanhayes> hmm, where is the page for this version?
10:45 <luke-jr> ⁇?
10:45 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you playing
10:46 <Vanhayes> ok, so what is the name and number again luke-jr?
10:46 <luke-jr> hachi.dashjr.org 5556
10:52 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7550 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/ (nServerInfo.cpp nServerInfo.h): Servers that are no longer listed on the master servers are no longer shown. This should get rid of the huge list of unreachable servers people report sometimes.
10:53 <luke-jr> :o
10:53 <luke-jr> z-man: freeciv?
10:54 <z-man> nope, I don't play that.
10:54 <luke-jr> you can!
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10:57 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ survive?
10:57 <Vanhayes> ya, x-chat just ... didnt want to keep going
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11:19 <luke-jr> hi cusco
11:21 <Vanhayes> #ping
11:21 <armabot> pong
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11:23 <luke-jr> hi epsy
11:24 <epsy> hi
11:25 <Vanhayes> hello
11:25 <luke-jr> epsy: civ? :D
11:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7551 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Default comptetition subculture for everyone.
11:26 <epsy> luke-jr, lol no :P
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11:37 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
11:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 53 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (10/16), Free Race!!! (6/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), Fortress Café (6/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (4/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (3/10), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (3/10), G-Land (3/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (2/12), Come Get Some ;) (1/16), WILDCAT (1/8)
11:43 <Vanhayes> #tea
11:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): $(Hmu$e$(Hne(ke, <<WiR>>Raiden, Betu, CTT_rugkei, freako, SKID MARK
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11:46 <Vanhayes> #ping
11:46 <armabot> pong
11:46 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: ping
11:46 <Vanhayes> pong
11:56 <Vanhayes> bah, stupid laptop
11:59 <spidey_> luke-jr, wtf?
11:59 <spidey_> did you shut the server down?
11:59 <luke-jr> crashed
11:59 <spidey_> liar
11:59 <spidey_> you did it cause hayes gave me his cities :<
11:59 <luke-jr> save loaded
11:59 <luke-jr> he did?
11:59 <luke-jr> I wonder if that's what crashed it
11:59 <spidey_> um no
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12:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7552 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/NEWS: Updated.
12:27 <Vanhayes> #ping
12:27 <armabot> pong
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12:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7553 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (language/deutsch.txt src/tron/gServerFavorites.cpp): Minor corrections.
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12:49 <luke-jr> spidey_:
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12:53 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> spidey_:
12:53 <spidey> Vanhayes,
12:53 <Vanhayes> spidey,
12:53 <spidey> Vanhayes,
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12:53 <Vanhayes> spidey,
12:53 <spidey> what
12:53 <Vanhayes> Fluffy,
12:53 <spidey> lol
12:53 <Vanhayes> whs wining in civ
12:54 <luke-jr> me
12:54 <spidey> balt
12:54 <Vanhayes> lies
12:54 <spidey> he has 94 points
12:54 <spidey> i have 90
12:54 <Vanhayes> ah ok
12:54 <luke-jr> I have 109
12:54 <spidey> you have 88
12:54 <spidey> nub
12:54 <luke-jr> pfft
12:55 <Vanhayes> hmm seems that that name bann on the old cvs test server came back and bit me in the ass
12:55 <spidey> name ban?
12:56 <spidey> cvs is back?
12:56 <spidey> o.o
12:56 <Vanhayes> how no one but me could use my name
12:56 <spidey> i pretty much lost intrest in arma after cvs went down
12:56 <spidey> xD
12:56 <Vanhayes> bugfarm elimination sumo is the old cvs
12:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: how'd you get that ban?
12:56 <Vanhayes> i think it is anyway, seeing as it wont let me use my name there with this ip
12:57 <Vanhayes> I asked for it when pimp used to use my name
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12:57 <Vanhayes> or something like that
12:57 <Vanhayes> it was a few years ago, so im alittle funzy
12:57 <Vanhayes> fuzy*
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13:03 <Vanhayes> anyways
13:03 <Vanhayes> #night
13:03 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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13:22 <loor> Hmm, this chatroom doesn't seem to be all that busy
13:24  * epsy searches an instant for that
13:24 <luke-jr> loor: capital L
13:25 <loor> Tried that, Luke-jr
13:25 <luke-jr> WFM
13:25 <epsy> lol!
13:25 <loor> Let me see...
13:26 <loor> >: ( I am sure i tried that
13:26 <loor> I really am.
13:26 <loor> Gosh, I'm sorry for the annoyance.
13:27 <luke-jr> :þ
13:27 <loor> :/
13:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Loor/race/racetowz-1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Loor
13:28 <loor> There we are.
13:28 <luke-jr> ☺
13:28 <luke-jr> good to have another IRCer too ☺
13:28 <loor> :)
13:29 <loor> Now,on another note, anyone know where i can find that Race to win zone script i know is there? It has eluded me
13:29 <luke-jr> err?
13:29 <luke-jr> what script?
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13:30 <luke-jr> …
13:30 <epsy> lol
13:30 <loor> ><
13:30 <luke-jr> so anyhow
13:30 <luke-jr> describe your script better
13:31 <loor> Sorry bout that. When you go wireless, you get problems
13:31 <loor> Oh, its not mine. I'm sure i saw a script for creating a map, and writing the everytime.cfg somewhere
13:33 <luke-jr> what kind of a map
13:33 <loor> A race to win zone
13:33 <loor> I'm sure i saw one on the forums a while back
13:33 <loor> But i can't seem to find it again.
13:34 <luke-jr>  …
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13:34 <luke-jr> like mazes?
13:34 <loor> Ack, not again
13:35 <loor> Yes, like mazes, but with obsticles, and death zones, and 1 win zone at the end
13:35 <luke-jr> hmm
13:35 <loor> Y'know, the old race to win zone server
13:35 <luke-jr> btw, plz don't submit autogenerated random maps ☺
13:36 <loor> Hmm? I havn't.
13:39 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Loor/race/racetowz-1.01.aamap.xml: Resource by Loor
13:39 <luke-jr> ok
13:39 <luke-jr> just telling you so you don't ☺
13:39 <loor> Hehe. Armabot knows what you are doing *looks around suspiciously*
13:39 <loor> Okay :)
13:42 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=2855
13:43 <loor> Ahhh! Thank you! All i could find is voodoo's one. and that one doesn't seem to work.
13:43 <luke-jr> :þ
13:43 <luke-jr> next time search for maze generator script ;p
13:45 <luke-jr> btw, are you getting my PMs?
13:45 <loor> Yes
13:47 <loor> Time to go
13:47 <luke-jr> ☹
13:47 <loor> Goodnight
13:47 <luke-jr> but
13:48 <loor> ?
13:48 <luke-jr> /join #armalukechat
13:48 <luke-jr> ☺
13:48 <loor> Right now? I really don't have much time.
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14:02 <spidey> #ping
14:02 <armabot> pong
14:02 <spidey> luke-jr, why's the server at 00s
14:03 <spidey> oh
14:03 <spidey> lag
14:07 <luke-jr> u
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14:31 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7554 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): separated language strings of subculture menu from those of the server favorites.
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16:16 <z-man> luke-jr: what is the status on that XMPP stuff?
16:16  * z-man is experimenting with the plain krawall stuff
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19:19 <libervisco> epsy, goodkoen and free-zombie have a match on 19h GMT
19:21 <epsy> what about me, libervisco ?
19:21 <libervisco> Well I said epsy, goodkoen and free-zombie :)
19:21 <libervisco> all three of you :)
19:22 <epsy> oh
19:22 <epsy> i read "epsy: goodkoen and .. »
19:22 <epsy> lol :)
19:22 <libervisco> yeah :D
19:22 <epsy> so it's in hanf an hour?
19:23 <epsy> *half
19:26 <libervisco> yeah
19:29 <guru3> yeah... i'm pretty sure that in the last year or three
19:29 <guru3> the overall quality of gameplay
19:29 <guru3> has gone down a bit
19:31 <libervisco> Ok koen is coming :)
19:31 <libervisco> epsy, so this time we have a match, even if zombie doesn't show up :)
19:31  * guru3 waves to libervisco 
19:31 <libervisco> Hi guru3 :)
19:32 <guru3> tournament going well?
19:32 <libervisco> Well it could be better, but all in all, it's going ok
19:32 <epsy> libervisco, btw, what happened to group 2 ?
19:32 <libervisco> It's excellent as a learning experience and material building thing for the next one
19:32 <libervisco> epsy, same thing, zion didn't show up, rescheduled for tomorrow 19h
19:33 <guru3> The one time I tried to do a tournament was madness.
19:33 <guru3> It was just impossible to coordinate across the timezones.
19:33 <epsy> heh
19:33 <guru3> I imagine you'll have more success than I did as it seems you've actually got rules.
19:33 <libervisco> hehe
19:33 <guru3> (Both game and tournament- an important point.)
19:34 <guru3> That was years and years ago though.
19:34 <libervisco> yeah.. but I know now some things could've been done better, mostly with sign ups and scheduling
19:35 <guru3> Well, I hope Armagetron will have the benefit of that another time.
19:35 <libervisco> I was too open.. actually letting them schedule instead of just having a systematic way of seeing general availabilities and then doing strict schedules.. who doesn't show up is out and that's it..
19:35 <libervisco> yeah
19:35 <libervisco> Actually I think AA may go a bit smoother than some others :)
19:36 <guru3> xD
19:36 <epsy> shall i ask why?
19:37 <guru3> Being firm is absolutely essential and at the same time is one of the hardest things to do.
19:37 <guru3> Especially with a smaller more fragile community as I had the first time around.
19:38 <libervisco> yeah
19:39 <libervisco> epsy, well, for one it started latest so there was time to already apply some learned things.. also you seem to have some experience with tournaments and said that 19h weekends are good, which already gives a good candidate time for matches
19:40 <libervisco> and also matches are all in one for qualifications, not each match between different people
19:40 <libervisco> so basically less people to hunt for :)
19:40 <epsy> heh
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19:41 <guru3> Time for dinner now, I'll catch ya later libervisco.
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19:42 <libervisco> sure guru3, cya
19:45 <vinavil> luke-jr_: I do not understand why you keep hosting arma resources in such a slow site. why cannot they be in armagetronad.net space? is there a reason the beta part is hosted where it is?
19:47 <mkzelda> lol
19:59 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: the site itself doesn't appear to be *totally* slow… I just keep getting a huge delay for the first request, subsequent ones are reasonably fast
19:59 <wrtlprnft> i think it tries to reverse DNS query me or something and caches the result
20:00 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/rain/fortress/sumo-0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by rain
20:00 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: every page takes 5 minutes to load here. as you can see upload that map took 15 minutes.
20:03 <vinavil> i just do not understand the reason why it is there. why isn't it in main armagetronad.net host?
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20:18 <libervisco> hmm..
20:18 <libervisco> epsy, that first one was too short :)
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20:22 <epsy> libervisco, lol
20:24 <libervisco> epsy, #gamefest (cause free-zombie is there) :)
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21:02 <epsy> i hope rain edited the right file
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21:44 <wrtlprnft> #later tell vinavil for one thing it's a good thing to not rely on a single host
21:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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22:23 <luke-jr_> #later tell vinavil z-man was going to take over hosting those at one point, but it never happened; now the main site is on Dreamhost, which has had issues also, but guru3 was checking into if they could support things like map uploads; since the beta site is in theory for beta stuff, anything long-term should be moved off it to the main site anyway; and finally, there is no reason why my server should take 15 minutes ☺
22:23 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
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23:14 <wrtlprnft> so we finally _have_ authentification
23:15 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i think we'ill need an admin
23:15 <epsy> not quite sure yet
23:15 <epsy> (speaks about café)
23:22 <beta|AoS|> Why do we need an admin ? Anarchy ftw ! :p
23:23 <guru3> First came the admin, then came the server usually.
23:23 <guru3> Without admins -> no servers, and then nothing to do.
23:28 <guru3> Would it be possible to have a floor that's a color gradient
23:28 <guru3> ?
23:28 <beta|AoS|> Yeah but we are talking about "in game admin", not sysadmin.
23:28 <beta|AoS|> afaik
23:37 <wrtlprnft> guru3: you mean a grid floor?
23:37 <guru3> yeah
23:38 <wrtlprnft> definitely. make a 2×2px PNG image with your “gradient” and use that as a floor
23:38 <guru3> you have a blue floor and people with blue walls i have trouble seeing
23:38 <wrtlprnft> but scale it up with GRID_SIZE
23:38 <guru3> green floor i can't see the green walls
23:38 <guru3> so i want a technicolor floor
23:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: for what? for how long? are you talking about z-man's new stuff?
23:40 <epsy> wrtlprnft, nvm
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23:41 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
23:41 <armabot> pong
23:41 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores ess caf
23:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Team gold (74): ¦×¦ epsy (16), Guy (6), ¦×¦ earplugs (6); Team blue (30): Crash-Test (6), 3 fps (4), Dac (0)
23:41 <wrtlprnft> go gold!
23:41 <wrtlprnft> go epsy!
23:41 <epsy> :d
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23:53 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw
23:53 <epsy> what about this auth stuff ?
23:58 <epsy> already reading forums nvm :P

Log from 2008-01-20:
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00:04 <beta|AoS|> #ss crazy
00:05 <armabot> beta|AoS|: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Blue BrainEaters (96): moth (24), CTT_emmy (4), 3 fps (2), Aion (2), ¦×¦ earplugs (0); Gold FleshBiters (62): evälÐúsiå (20), <<WiR>>Raiden (6), (null) (2), DeathPenalty (2), PUPP3T (0), \.B.\ Berr (0)
00:06 <wrtlprnft> gee, i hate compiling stuff on windows
00:06 <wrtlprnft> it feels like programming for my calculator
00:07 <wrtlprnft> totally stupid and quirky
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01:28 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: MACS ARE WORSE.
01:28 <zmanuel> Unless you happen to program in objective C, of ocurse.
01:29 <zmanuel> These universal binaries are great for the user, but a pain to create.
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03:33 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: say what?
03:41 <luke-jr_> # adds an admin account
03:41 <luke-jr_>  MD5_PASSWORD_ADMIN <user> <password>
03:41 <luke-jr_>  
03:41 <luke-jr_>  # adds an user account
03:41 <luke-jr_>  MD5_PASSWORD_ADMIN <user> <password>
03:41 <luke-jr_> same cmd?
03:45 <luke-jr_> #later tell z-man BTW/FYI, the XMPP stuff can even become the key stuff gradually-- we are allowed to store arbitrary data on the XMPP server, including private keys and such
03:45 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
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05:07 <luke-jr> #later tell wrtlprnft "#alias add g "google calc @1""
05:07 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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09:03 <wrtlprnft> g 1+1
09:03 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: google calc doesn't work anymore :-(
09:03 <luke-jr> #google cacl 1+1
09:04 <armabot> luke-jr: Search took 0.21 seconds: (IUCr) The structure of the cytosine- calcium chloride ( 1 : 1 ...: <http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S056774088000725X>; Critical Evaluation of the Thermodynamic Properties of Aqueous ...: <http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jceaax/1997/42/i05/abs/je9700582.html>; Method of producing high density calcium chloride 1 /3 hydrate ...: (3 more messages)
09:04 <luke-jr> #google calc 1+1
09:04 <armabot> luke-jr: 1 + 1 = 2
09:05 <wrtlprnft> wow
09:05 <wrtlprnft> it actually fixed itself?
09:05 <wrtlprnft> #alias add g google calc
09:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Alias "g" is locked.
09:05 <wrtlprnft> #alias unlock g
09:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
09:05 <luke-jr> apparently
09:05 <wrtlprnft> #alias unlock g
09:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:05 <wrtlprnft> #alias add g google calc
09:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:05 <wrtlprnft> #alias lock g
09:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:06 <luke-jr> #g 1+3
09:06 <armabot> luke-jr: (google calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
09:06 <luke-jr> @1
09:06 <wrtlprnft> should be the default…
09:06 <wrtlprnft> #alias add g google calc $*
09:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Alias "g" is locked.
09:06 <wrtlprnft> grr
09:06 <wrtlprnft> #alias unlock g
09:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:06 <wrtlprnft> #alias add g google calc $*
09:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:06 <wrtlprnft> #alias lock g
09:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:06 <luke-jr> #g 1+ 3
09:06 <armabot> luke-jr: 1 + 3 = 4
09:06 <luke-jr> yay
09:07 <wrtlprnft> #g 100 V * 2 days / 2 yards / 12 nm
09:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (((100 V) * (2 days)) / (2 yards)) / (12 nm) = 7.87401575 * 10^(14) tesla
09:07 <wrtlprnft> totally useless result, of course
09:07 <wrtlprnft> but that's the great thing about google calc
09:08 <luke-jr> ;lol
09:08 <luke-jr> it can't do base conversion ☹
09:10 <wrtlprnft> it probably can
09:11 <wrtlprnft> noone knows how is all
09:11 <wrtlprnft> #g 42 in hex
09:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 42 = 0x2A
09:12 <wrtlprnft> #g 101010b + 5
09:12 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:12 <wrtlprnft> hmm
09:13 <wrtlprnft> #g 0b101010 in dec
09:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:14 <wrtlprnft> #g 42 in binary
09:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 42 = 0b101010
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09:14 <wrtlprnft> #g 0b101010 / 42
09:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0b101010 / 42 = 0b1
09:14 <wrtlprnft> #g 0b101010 in decimal
09:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0b101010 = 42
09:14 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: what are you missing?
09:15 <wrtlprnft> arbitrary bases?
09:15 <luke-jr> base 42
09:15 <luke-jr> ☺
09:15 <wrtlprnft> use #math base for that
09:15 <luke-jr> #math base
09:15 <armabot> luke-jr: (math base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal.
09:15 <luke-jr> #math base 8 42 666
09:15 <armabot> luke-jr: (math base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal.
09:15 <luke-jr> suuure
09:15 <wrtlprnft> #math base 8 36 666
09:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: C6
09:16 <wrtlprnft> keep your base below 37
09:16 <luke-jr> no
09:16 <luke-jr> I want base 42
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09:41 <luke-jr> #rating /dev/null
09:41 <armabot> luke-jr: /dev/null is 875th with a rating of 1491-1525 (from 1495-1521)
09:41 <luke-jr> #rating2 /dev/null swampland_hate
09:41 <armabot> luke-jr: /dev/null is 66th with a rating of 1556-1599 (from 1559-1597) on swampland_hate
09:42 <flex> #rating flex
09:42 <armabot> flex: flex is 685th with a rating of 1510-1553 (from 1513-1550)
09:43 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
09:43 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 464th with a rating of 1537-1573 (from 1541-1569)
09:43 <flex> whats the servers again
09:44 <luke-jr> aos_ctf AoS Capture the Flag
09:44 <luke-jr> aos_crazy       AoS Capture the Flag (Crazy Mode)
09:44 <luke-jr> ctwf    Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress
09:44 <luke-jr> eclipsed        Eclipse'd.EC    d
09:44 <luke-jr> cafe    Fortress Cafe
09:44 <luke-jr> gz      GreenZone
09:45 <luke-jr> swampland_028   Swampland in 0.2.8
09:45 <luke-jr> swampland_hate  Swampland of Hate
09:45 <luke-jr> ww_ctf  Wild West (Capture the Flag)
09:45 <luke-jr> ww_misc Wild West (Misc)
09:45 <luke-jr> ww_sumo Wild West (Sumo)
09:45 <luke-jr> ww_wildfort     Wild West (Wild Fortress)
09:45 <luke-jr> xzl     ~"XzL
09:45 <luke-jr> ok stfu ty
09:45 <flex> #rating |x|_Durka
09:45 <armabot> flex: |x|_durka is 762nd with a rating of 1501-1565 (from 1503-1563)
09:45 <luke-jr> flex pwns durka!
09:45 <luke-jr> actually
09:45 <luke-jr> Durka has higher potential
09:45 <luke-jr> 1565 > 1553
09:46 <flex> what does that mean..
09:46 <luke-jr> it means you're ranked higher mainly because your rating is more accurate ☺
09:46 <luke-jr> and it's conceivable that Durka may be better
09:47 <flex> i don't really actually think people above me are better :p
09:47 <flex> maybe afew of them :p
09:47 <luke-jr> then prove it
09:47 <flex> well can i actually now?
09:48 <luke-jr> …
09:48 <luke-jr> dunno
09:48 <luke-jr> #lastseen people-above-flex
09:49  * luke-jr ponders automating that query
09:49 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
09:49 <flex> lol
09:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ping
09:51  * luke-jr ponders using wrtlprnft's protocol research to force participating in ratings on unsuspecting servers >☺
09:51 <flex> #lastseen flex
09:51 <armabot> flex: /Flextreme\ has last been seen on Strawberry Fields 3 hours 22 minutes ago.
09:51 <luke-jr> lol
09:51 <flex> woot
09:51 <flex> i was never there
09:51 <luke-jr> #rating /Flextreme\
09:51 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about '/flextreme\'!
09:51 <flex> oh flextream
09:52 <flex> #aka flex
09:52 <armabot> flex: ¿215 flex kinky4u hoax_>_fle hoax_>_flex_l>
09:57 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7555 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/ (games-strategy/ overlay-armagetron/): remove dead junk
09:58 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7556 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files): sdl-mixer dep
09:59 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7557 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (3 files): sdl-mixer dep
10:00 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: any simple way to get a list of online players? ☺
10:06 <flex> yes luke
10:06 <flex> server  browser :p
10:08 <luke-jr> …
10:08 -!- Netsplit clarke.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: fonkay, Lucifer_bed
10:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fonkay, Lucifer_bed
10:11 <guru3> fucking hell
10:11 <guru3> my ping on this server just keeps going up and up
10:14 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: either use my xml feed
10:15 <wrtlprnft> which is the preferred way because it doesn't bother the actual servers
10:15 <wrtlprnft> or use my php script thing
10:16 <wrtlprnft> or do something like
10:16 <wrtlprnft> $servers = getMasterInfo('master3.armagetronad.net');
10:16 <wrtlprnft> foreach ($serverinfo as $i) {
10:16 <wrtlprnft> 	$si = new serverinfo($i['host'], $i['port']);
10:16 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: so PHP or XML eh?
10:16  * luke-jr ponders
10:16 <wrtlprnft> 	foreach($si->players as $player) {
10:17 <wrtlprnft> //blah
10:17 <wrtlprnft> }}
10:17 <wrtlprnft> well, you should *love* xml
10:17 <wrtlprnft> and it should please you that i have an XML feed that even has a DTD
10:18 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores durka
10:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: - [ Nano's Playground | Durka Durka Nano Land ] -: No online players
10:18 <wrtlprnft> #serverscores d u r k a
10:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | -: PLAYERS (13): Fasol (2), .dBd|lemon (1), Dancer (1), Jickael Mackson (1), PIMP!! (1), Purple 1/2 (1), mark (1), Bobby (0), DADDE0 (0), DaBeste (0), FrankenLoin (0), Shaw (0), The Kingzor (0)
10:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: why should I love XML?
10:20 <wrtlprnft> because you love XMPP?
10:20 <luke-jr> :þ
10:20 <wrtlprnft> because god is telling me right now that XML rocks?
10:20 <luke-jr> yeah, but Perl needs modules for XML ☺
10:21 <luke-jr> hmm
10:21 <luke-jr> I have streams that include PLAYER_ENTERED and PLAYER_LEFT…
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10:32 <MrBougo> luke-jr: code the modules then
10:32 <luke-jr> MrBougo: ?⁈
10:32 <MrBougo> the xml modules
10:32 <MrBougo> "code it, then"
10:32 <MrBougo> that's what nexuiz devs say :p
10:36 <luke-jr> …
10:36 <luke-jr> they already exist
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10:40 <MrBougo> < luke-jr> yeah, but Perl needs modules for XML ☺
10:40 <MrBougo> hur?
10:40 <luke-jr> exactly
10:40 <MrBougo> it needs, or it doesnt
10:40 <MrBougo> but not both
10:42 <luke-jr> it needs
10:42 <luke-jr> they exist
10:42 <MrBougo> oh ok, argh
10:43 <MrBougo> sorry for wasting your time :p
10:52 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: you have to search for a non-trivial language without xml support these days
11:02 <flex> #rating flex
11:02 <armabot> flex: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fsockopen() [<a href='function.fsockopen'>function.fsockopen</a>]: unable to connect to stats.aa.dashjr.org:9999 (Connection refused) in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/api-pre.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/home/armastats-srv/public_html/rating.php</b> on line <b>5</b><br (2 more messages)
11:17 <luke-jr> sry flex
11:17 <luke-jr> I was adding a new feature
11:17 <luke-jr> but it doesn't want to work
11:17 <luke-jr> so I reverted just now
11:17 <luke-jr> #rating flex
11:17 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 696th with a rating of 1508-1555 (from 1510-1553)
11:19 <flex> aw
11:24 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrtltest1
11:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtltest1 is 4863rd with a rating of 1150-1850
11:24 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrtltest2
11:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtltest2 is 4863rd with a rating of 1150-1850
11:24 <wrtlprnft> looks like they suck now
11:29 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: they're default cuz I deleted them
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11:56 <luke-jr> wb loor
11:56 <luke-jr> #rating loor
11:56 <armabot> luke-jr: loor is 2829th with a rating of 1333-1562
11:56 <luke-jr> hm
11:56 <luke-jr> you suck
11:56 <luke-jr> XD
11:56 <loor> :O
11:56 <loor> I havn't been trying yet.
11:56 <loor> What servers does it rate on again?
11:57 <luke-jr> a lot
11:57 <luke-jr> ☺
11:57 <loor> Hmm
11:58 <loor> #rating luke-jr
11:58 <armabot> loor: luke-jr is 477th with a rating of 1534-1575 (from 1537-1573)
11:58 <loor> :/
11:58 <luke-jr> :\
11:58 <luke-jr> I was in the top 400 a few days ago
11:59 <luke-jr> then freako went after me
11:59 <luke-jr> ☹
11:59 <loor> :P
12:00 <loor> Hmm, but what servers does it rate on?
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12:06 <luke-jr> loor: a bunch
12:06 <loor> Like what ones?
12:06 <loor> There is over 100
12:13 <luke-jr> is there?
12:13 <luke-jr> I count 61
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12:15 <luke-jr> so about ¼th of them I guess
12:15 <luke-jr> maybe 1/5th
12:16 <luke-jr> so bug your fav servers to participate XD
12:16 <luke-jr> #lastseen loor
12:16 <armabot> luke-jr: Loor has last been seen on Nano's Playground >> Fertilization Mode! 58 minutes ago.
12:16 <luke-jr> that one does not participate, I think
12:16 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: any reason why there isn't a list of participating systems?
12:16 <loor> How about Durka Durka land?
12:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it's just not setup for that atm
12:17 <luke-jr> loor: I don't think so; ask Angel
12:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: right now, there is no system-to-server mapping
12:17 <loor> Hmm, okay.
12:17 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-211-86.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit []
12:17 <loor> Can you at lease give me one that participates?
12:17 <wrtlprnft> #ss ess caf
12:17 <wrtlprnft> that one does :)
12:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Team blue (22): ¦×¦ Infamous (10), LP|CountChocula (0); Team gold (4): Knus (4), flex (0)
12:18 <loor> Ahh, that one is fun.
12:18 <loor> Personally, i think aussie ping makes fortress hard though :/
12:20 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: well, a list of systems and IPs, then
12:20 <luke-jr> O.o
12:20 <luke-jr> I pasted a hacked up system list in here earlier ☺
12:21 <luke-jr> AoS Capture the Flag (aos_ctf),  AoS Capture the Flag (Crazy Mode) (aos_crazy),  Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (ctwf),  Eclipse'd.EC|d (eclipsed),  Fortress Cafe (cafe),  GreenZone (gz),  Swampland in 0.2.8 (swampland_028),  Swampland of Hate (swampland_hate),  Wild West (Capture the Flag) (ww_ctf),  Wild West (Misc) (ww_misc),  Wild West (Sumo) (ww_sumo),  Wild West (Wild Fortress) (ww_wildfort),  ~"XzL (xzl)
12:21 <luke-jr> some of those represent multiple servers
12:24 <flex> #rating flex
12:24 <armabot> flex: flex is 751st with a rating of 1501-1548 (from 1510-1553)
12:24 <flex> lal
12:26 <flex> #rating |x|_infamous
12:27 <armabot> flex: |x|_infamous is 22nd with a rating of 1670-1727 (from 1644-1700)
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12:29 <Program1> #rating knus
12:29 <armabot> Program1: knus is 424th with a rating of 1542-1598 (from 1552-1605)
12:29 <luke-jr> O.o
12:29 <luke-jr> #aka knus
12:29 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿4593 knus
12:29 <luke-jr> Program1: who are you? O.o
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12:51 <flex> he's knus
12:52 <flex> anyway
12:52 <flex> is the server browser dead or something :p
12:54 <luke-jr> ⁇?
13:07 <Program1> hey luke, were can i get the rating outside this irc or is that impissoble?
13:07 <Program1> impossible*
13:10 <luke-jr> #rating2-test knus
13:10 <armabot> luke-jr: (rating2test <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]] .".
13:10 <luke-jr> #rating2-test knus cafe
13:10 <armabot> web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=cafe&name=knus .
13:10 <luke-jr> like that
13:10 <luke-jr> or do you want something programmic?
13:11 <luke-jr> if programmic, see the ratings script and use the commands raw_rating, read_rating, or rank_rating
13:11 <flex> he's talking about web based, so he doesn't have to come on irc to get a rating list of himself
13:11 <flex> I think?
13:11 <Program1> yep,
13:11 <luke-jr> so then see the link
13:12 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?name=knus
13:12 <luke-jr> though
13:12 <Program1> the irc makes my arma lag hard, so i dont want to log in to often
13:12 <luke-jr> I think we'd all rather you stick around on IRC :þ
13:12 <luke-jr> minimize it when you play?
13:12 <flex> luke, is there an input on the page
13:12 <luke-jr> flex: no
13:12 <luke-jr> it's designed for armabot :þ
13:12 <flex> useful to have one? :p
13:13 <luke-jr> want to write it?
13:13 <Program1> wouldnt it be nicer if we had it as webpage then?
13:13 <flex> urm fine
13:13 <flex> will you use it?
13:13 <Program1> me?
13:13 <flex> no luke
13:13 <luke-jr> http://pastebin.com/m2f631f54
13:14 <luke-jr> if it works well :þ
13:14 <luke-jr> there's rating.php
13:15 <flex> can i redesign the whole look? :p
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13:15 <luke-jr> flex: not guaranteeing I'll use it
13:17 <flex> ok well then just add a search feature at the bottom of the page with "player name here:x" hotlinking to http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?&name=playername
13:17 <Program1> would be nice
13:20 <luke-jr> Program1: btw
13:20 <luke-jr> IRC wouldn't be slow if you used a real program
13:20 <luke-jr> instead of a webpage
13:21 <Program1> I know, when im on linux i use a real program, im just to lazy to get one for windows :)
13:22 <luke-jr> Arma works much better on Linux too
13:22 <Program1> I know. much more fps/stable but i get lower ping in windows
13:23 <luke-jr> turn off iptables?
13:24 <flex> it does luke?
13:24 <flex> i thought it didnt due to bad drivers
13:24 <flex> or was that only for ati
13:24 <luke-jr> only for nVidia
13:24 <Program1> nah. ill keep windows for gaming, and I just use linux for building, my windoes building enviroment just doesnt wants to work
13:25 <luke-jr> Windoze sux
13:25 <Program1> but its good with gaming still
13:25 <luke-jr> nope
13:25 <flex> you mean that driver issue is only with nvidia?
13:25 <flex> or it works only on nvidia?
13:25 <Program1> i have an Nvidia whats my prob or non prob?
13:26 <luke-jr> I mean nVidia is 2D only ☺
13:28 <flex> what distro do you use luke?
13:28 <luke-jr> Gentoo
13:28 <luke-jr> and Debian on servers
13:30 <flex> gentoo looks alot like windows and is quite ugly :p
13:30 <flex> why use it?
13:31 <luke-jr> wtf are you talking about flex
13:31 <luke-jr> Gentoo doesn't look like anything
13:31 <g5vc> gentoo r0x
13:31 <g5vc> :)
13:31 <flex> http://www.icewalkers.com/scrshot/1548/
13:31 <g5vc> with e17 oh yea!
13:31 <g5vc> this is gay kde
13:31 <luke-jr> flex: what makes you think that's Gentoo?
13:32 <flex> lol the part "Gentoo Linux - Screenshot"
13:32 <luke-jr> that's someone's KDE install customized to look like windoze
13:32 <flex> ah right
13:32 <flex> can you give me a proper ss
13:32 <g5vc> you dont need to use kde..
13:32 <luke-jr> a ss of Gentoo or KDE?
13:33 <flex> Gentoo
13:33 <flex> what kind of increase in performance do you get with arma on linux compared to windows?
13:33 <flex> i haven't actually tried it
13:33 <K-Yo> #ss cafe
13:33 <armabot> K-Yo: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (2 more messages)
13:33 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot32.png <-- Gentoo
13:33 <K-Yo> hum
13:34 <K-Yo> i had too many connections with tronner too
13:34 <K-Yo> is that normal?
13:34 <Program1> more fps and more stable
13:34 <Program1> cbut windoes lower ping
13:34 <flex> what kind of snapshot is that luke..
13:34 <flex> can't see shit
13:35 <flex> some console
13:35 <luke-jr> …
13:35 <luke-jr> you blind?
13:35 <flex> well i got that link lol
13:36 <Program1> how is it possible that linux get so much greater fps actually? I boosts mine +300
13:37 <flex> really?
13:37 <luke-jr> Program1: technically, any fps over 75 is wasted
13:37 <flex> wow that's a good improvemnt
13:37 <luke-jr> because your monitor will only refresh at most 75 times per second
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13:37 <flex> high fps insures it never drops bellow 75
13:38 <Program1> i have vsync off
13:38 <luke-jr> ☺
13:38 <Program1> vsync sometimes gives me periods of 20 fps sineatd of 500
13:38 <luke-jr> KDE --> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot1.png
13:38 <flex> what distro do you use Program1?
13:39 <Program1> windoes
13:39 <Program1> and ubuntu
13:40 <luke-jr> flex: btw, in case you haven't figured it out yet
13:40 <luke-jr> Gentoo does not define a GUI
13:40 <luke-jr> you can install whatever GUI you want
13:40 <flex> what's the default one?
13:40 <flex> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/shots.xml
13:40 <luke-jr> flex: there is none
13:40 <g5vc> no default
13:41 <luke-jr> flex: heck, by default there isn't even a DHCP daemon
13:41 <luke-jr> or cron
13:41 <flex> well are you using gnome?
13:41 <flex> oh kde
13:41 <luke-jr> KDE ♡
13:41 <luke-jr> GNOME sucks
13:41 <luke-jr> it's slow and ugly
13:41 <flex> how come
13:42 <luke-jr> and idiot-proof
13:42 <luke-jr> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 <-- Gentoo install instructions (for x86)
13:42 <flex> are you using ati luke?
13:42 <flex> or nividea
13:43 <luke-jr> ATi of course
13:43 <luke-jr> nVidia ftl
13:43 <flex> that's what i said
13:43 <flex> but i regret it now :p
13:43 <flex> i will never buy ati again :p
13:43 <luke-jr> if you want 3D on Linux with nVidia, you need to pirate illegal drivers
13:44 <flex> on that note fine, but nvidia currently is pwning ati on everything
13:44 <flex> there 3version old card beats ati's "hd" editions
13:45 <luke-jr> as far as Arma is concerned, this Mobility FireGL 9000 is by far plenty
13:45 <luke-jr> my desktop has a Radeon X850, but I don't use it much right noiw
13:46 <luke-jr> I'd prefer to get an Intel chipset, but they only do them onboard ☹
13:47 <flex> oh sweet i have an x800 pe
13:47 <flex> what kind of fps do you get on your x850 setup
13:48 <luke-jr> I forget
13:48 <luke-jr> X850 is the best one with proper Linux support right now tho
13:48 <flex> well can you remember general performance?
13:48 <K-Yo> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Richard_Stallman_sign_ATI.jpg
13:48 <flex> hah
13:48 <luke-jr> K-Yo: what year was that?
13:48 <flex> lal what is that about
13:48 <flex> 90s clearly
13:49 <flex> na 2000ish :p
13:49 <luke-jr> 2006
13:49 <luke-jr> and he was protesting against both nVidia and ATi
13:49 <flex> that poster looks photoshopped..
13:51 <luke-jr> lol
13:51 <luke-jr> I wonder
13:52 <flex> only thing making me consider ever buying another ati card is because of amd
13:52 <luke-jr> hold off
13:52 <luke-jr> apparently they haven't released much of the important stuff yet
13:53 <luke-jr> no need for new video card that soon
13:53 <flex> can you try and remember what kind of performance your x850 was producing
13:53 <luke-jr> -.-
13:53 <luke-jr> it was much better with ATi's illegal drivers than with the free one
13:53 <spidey> people are so retard
13:53 <luke-jr> beyond that, I don't remember
13:53 <luke-jr> it's been months now
13:54 <luke-jr> I do know it wasn't worth the $120 or so I spent
13:54 <flex> yeah
13:54 <luke-jr> the 9200 worked fine
13:54 <luke-jr> except for being single headed
13:55 <spidey> ati works better on windows than linux
13:55 <spidey> and nvidia works better on linux than windows
13:55 <spidey> or atleast they have for me
13:55 <flex> that's what i was told..
13:55 <flex> or well ati sucked on linux
13:55 <luke-jr> I haven't used Windows since my best card was a TNT2
13:55 <spidey> heh
13:55 <luke-jr> I couldn't care less how they work on Windows either
13:56 <luke-jr> I only care how they work on Linux
13:56 <luke-jr> if they work better on Windows, it doesn't concern me
13:56 <flex> spidey you're using which brand?
13:56 <flex> or card should I ask
13:56 <spidey> that's because you don't do anything that requires a video card besides tron, and that's not saying much
13:56 <luke-jr> flex: ATi's illegal drivers suck on Linux
13:56 <luke-jr> flex: nVidia's are SLIGHTLY better
13:56 <spidey> slightly my ass
13:56 <luke-jr> but X.org has free drivers for a lot of ATi
13:56 <spidey> the g5 series was nvidia's worst series
13:57 <luke-jr> the legal nVidia drivers are 2D only right now
13:57 <spidey> who cares?
13:57 <luke-jr> as far as I'm concerned, the illegal drivers don't count as Linux proper
13:57 <flex> who cares?
13:57 <spidey> you're talking to soemone who has 300gb of warez
13:57  * luke-jr reports spidey
13:57 <spidey> legal or illegal, they work.
13:57  * luke-jr notes the legal ATi drivers WORK
13:58 <spidey> not well
13:58 <flex> would it be better off to use official and none official :p
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13:58 <luke-jr> yes they do
13:58 <luke-jr> flex: why?
13:58 <flex> how is it illegal?
13:58 <luke-jr> it violates copyright law
13:58 <luke-jr> just like spidey's warez
13:58 <spidey> bahah
13:58 <flex> spidey, what card do you use currently?
13:58 <luke-jr> the official are illegal
13:59 <spidey> flex, fx 5500
13:59 <luke-jr> the unofficial are legal
13:59 <luke-jr> for nVidia/ATi anyhow
13:59 <luke-jr> Intel only has legal official ones
13:59 <luke-jr> but no discrete cards ☹
13:59 <luke-jr> spidey: turn done
13:59 <luke-jr> retard
14:00 <spidey> oh
14:00 <spidey> i have to invade argentina
14:00 <luke-jr> -.-
14:00 <spidey> because the irish said so
14:00 <luke-jr> you listen to them?
14:00 <spidey> they have 5 cities, why would i listen to them?
14:00 <luke-jr> they're like 1/3rd your score
14:00 <spidey> i have 31 cities
14:00 <spidey> :D
14:00 <luke-jr> if they want to break off the alliance, they're only screwing themselves
14:01 <luke-jr> hm
14:01 <flex> i'm kinda confused, ofc I'll compare later today but ati on linux is better, same or worser then windows?
14:01 <luke-jr> I wonder what happens if you're at peace, but your units are in their cities
14:01 <luke-jr> flex: how ATi works in Windows is irrelevant ☺
14:01 <luke-jr> flex: ATi in Linux is legal and works well up to X850
14:01 <flex> well I'm using windows so it is kinda relevent to me :p
14:01 <luke-jr> so stop using Windows
14:02 <spidey> flex, get ati then
14:02 <spidey> or
14:02 <flex> i have ati lol
14:02 <spidey> get the 8 series card for nvidia
14:02 <flex> question is: is it better to use linux or windows for the performance
14:02 <flex> which performes better on the ati x800 pe :p
14:02 <spidey> are you a gamer?
14:02 <flex> ofc
14:02 <luke-jr> flex: if your fps is at least 75, it doesn't matter in reality
14:02 <spidey> what games
14:02 <flex> well not anymore, but css, wow, aoc
14:03 <flex> ect ect
14:03  * luke-jr snickers at spidey
14:03 <spidey> this card plays css fine
14:03 <spidey> well
14:03 <luke-jr> Irish is gonna attack you
14:03 <spidey> depends on the map
14:03 <spidey> luke-jr, no
14:03 <spidey> they're attacking zac-kuk
14:03 <luke-jr> j/k :þ
14:04 <flex> lets stick to arma spidey :p
14:04 <spidey> i don't play arma anymore
14:04 <luke-jr> lol
14:04 <flex> ah fuck it, i'll just try it out today
14:04 <luke-jr> flex: Gentoo? ☺
14:04 <flex> fuck no :p
14:04 <luke-jr> pfft
14:04 <spidey> don't let luke sucker you into installing gentoo
14:04 <flex> if i have to install kde then it's too much work
14:04 <luke-jr> flex: you type 'emerge kdebase-meta' and let it work :þ
14:05 <flex> lol
14:05 <spidey> don't let luke sucker you into installing gentoo
14:05 <spidey> don't let luke sucker you into installing gentoo
14:05 <flex> why not lol
14:05  * luke-jr ponders digging up spidey quotes
14:05  * flex likes to make luke happy
14:05 <spidey> gentoo was fine
14:05 <spidey> it's just not worth it
14:05 <spidey> to me anyways
14:05 <flex> worth it? aint it free? :P
14:05 <spidey> no
14:06 <spidey> the time it took, i could have installed slackware, ubuntu, arch...something else 10 times over
14:06 <luke-jr> LOLOL
14:07 <luke-jr> flex: what CPU do you have? :þ
14:07 <spidey> i prefer debian :D
14:07 <luke-jr> spidey: turn done foo
14:07 <spidey> i did
14:07 <spidey> foo
14:07 <luke-jr> (= go away)
14:07 <spidey> your server lags
14:07 <luke-jr> again
14:07 <luke-jr> it's 550 Mhz
14:07 <luke-jr> get over it
14:08 <spidey> then let me start hosting it foo
14:08 <luke-jr> it also has ettercap eating 100% CPU
14:08 <luke-jr> and the ratings stuff
14:08 <spidey> pick a server, i got a 1ghz, and a 2.4ghz
14:08 <luke-jr> spidey: meh
14:08 <spidey> 2.4ghz idles
14:08 <spidey> haven't figured out what to do with it yet
14:08 <flex> intel 3.2ghz
14:08 <luke-jr> spidey: you could let me have it
14:08 <spidey> i could
14:08 <spidey> but i won't
14:08 <luke-jr> flex: P4 or something sane?
14:09 <spidey> at that speed i'm guessing a PD
14:09 <flex> p4
14:09 <spidey> aw
14:09 <spidey> lukes going to tell you
14:09 <flex> lol what
14:09 <spidey> that  p3's out proform a p4
14:09 <flex> pd?
14:09 <spidey> pentium dual core
14:09 <flex> that's probably bs right
14:09 <spidey> actually probably not
14:10 <spidey> this duron at 1.8ghz runs pretty much the same as my p4 does/did
14:10 <luke-jr> not 3.2 GHz
14:10 <luke-jr> if you could have a 3.2 GHz P3, then yes
14:10 <luke-jr> but that is impossible for P3
14:10 <spidey> ...
14:10 <spidey> i have a 2.4ghz p4
14:10 <spidey> they don't make 2.4ghz p3's
14:10 <flex> are you talking real benchmarks spidey or just think it is the same?
14:10 <luke-jr> spidey: so?
14:11 <spidey> luke-jr, so? you're comparing clock speeds
14:11 <spidey> they don't mean that much
14:11 <luke-jr> not anymore
14:11 <flex> ah well that sucks luke.. the system was a 2.5ghz or something.. so my p3 system was actually faster?
14:11 <luke-jr> but it was how Intel rated their CPUs
14:11 <luke-jr> so people thought 2 GHz was 2 times faster than 1 GHz
14:11 <luke-jr> flex: eh⁇ 2.5 GHz P3?
14:12 <luke-jr> spidey: turn done
14:12 <spidey> fu
14:12 <flex> urm no the orginal cpu was 2 something
14:12 <luke-jr> lol
14:12 <flex> on this p4 system
14:12 <flex> i upgraded to a 3.2ghz
14:12 <luke-jr> …
14:12 <luke-jr> 3.2 GHz P4 > 2.something P4
14:12 <luke-jr> that's easy
14:13 <luke-jr> flex: anyhow, installing might take a while, but you can use Knoppix while it installs ☺
14:13 <flex> lol
14:13 <luke-jr> spidey likes to leave out that piece of info
14:13 <spidey> that's because you never told me foo
14:13 <flex> i installed yellow dog on ps3 and it took like 30minutes
14:13 <luke-jr> spidey: yeah, what did you do while it installed?
14:14 <spidey> looked at the screen
14:14 <luke-jr> flex: Yellow Dog doesn't compile everything from scratch
14:14 <spidey> used a console messenger
14:14 <luke-jr> spidey: o, you didn't have a CD-R
14:14 <luke-jr> I did tell you tho
14:14 <luke-jr> but you couldn
14:14 <spidey> WTF
14:14 <luke-jr> n't burn it
14:14 <spidey> liar
14:14 <luke-jr> cuz you were out of CD-Rs
14:14 <luke-jr> or something
14:14 <spidey> i have a CD-RW and a DVD-R
14:14 <luke-jr> want me to dig out the logs?
14:14 <flex> fuck it luke, i'm gona just try it on ubuntu. cba with linux.. i'm only gona check performance :p
14:14 <spidey> luke-jr, sure
14:14 <spidey> if you would have told me i could have used a live cd
14:15 <spidey> i would have pulled out mepis or ubuntu
14:16 <luke-jr> you DID use a live cd
14:16 <luke-jr> it is impossible to install Gentoo WITHOUT a LiveCD
14:16 <spidey> liar
14:16 <luke-jr> u
14:16 <spidey> i had a borked ubuntu install
14:16 <luke-jr> o
14:16 <spidey> yea
14:16 <spidey> see
14:16 <luke-jr> I guess that'd work similar
14:16 <spidey> stfu
14:16 <wrtlprnft> you could probably install gentoo from a cygwin environment
14:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: no
14:17 <Program1> nice discussion guys :P
14:17 <wrtlprnft> or from inside a virtual machine running on windows
14:17 <luke-jr> spidey: turn done
14:17 <spidey> actually
14:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: maybe
14:17 <spidey> you could go windows -> ubuntu -> gentoo
14:17 <spidey> =p
14:18 <spidey> ubuntu has a ntfs distrobution i think
14:18 <spidey> or fat32 can't remember
14:18 <luke-jr> or just delete Windoze
14:18 <wrtlprnft> spidey: i'm missing an appearance of macos in there
14:18 <Program1> both? i thopught ni could chose
14:18 <luke-jr> and use Knoppix while Gentoo installs
14:18 <wrtlprnft> linux on fat32?
14:18 <spidey> or ntfs
14:18 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: loopback file
14:18 <spidey> i forget which one
14:18 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: slow as heck
14:18 <spidey> slow indeed
14:18 <spidey> it installs over windows
14:19 <luke-jr> spidey: turn done
14:19 <spidey> u
14:19 <luke-jr> u
14:19  * wrtlprnft imagines linux on a loopback from a samba mount
14:19 <flex> wtf luke, how long does Gentoo take to install? (minutes here)
14:19 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: are you sadistic?
14:20 <luke-jr> flex: depends on CPU and options
14:20 <luke-jr> flex: and bandwidth
14:20 <flex> bandwidth?
14:20 <flex> can't it fit all on a dvd?
14:20 <spidey> yea
14:20 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i haven't even started on bringing infiniband drives into the equation
14:20 <spidey> luke likes to compile EVERYTHING
14:20 <spidey> kde took the longest
14:20 <luke-jr> flex: Gentoo is a live metaOS
14:21 <cusco> the one thing I like with gentoo is that it doesn't have versions
14:21 <luke-jr> flex: a DVD would be obsolete in a day
14:21 <cusco> the system you installed 5 years back is as updated as teh one you installed yesterday
14:21 <flex> alright so on a dvd with my any normal system whats the duration at..
14:23 <spidey> depends on how gay luke wants to be
14:23 <luke-jr> flex: there is no DVD
14:23 <spidey> see?
14:23 <luke-jr> flex: and there is no "normal system"
14:23 <flex> alright fine no dvd, live download?
14:23 <flex> how long lol
14:23 <luke-jr> yes, live download
14:24 <spidey> depends on how gay luke wants to be
14:24 <flex> lol, so how long! :p
14:24 <luke-jr> my 800 MHz P3 took a week installing from scratch to all KDE
14:24 <flex> jeeez
14:24 <Program1> 800 Mhz :(
14:24 <luke-jr> my 3 year old desktop took a few hours I think
14:24 <luke-jr> not sure how much I installed tho
14:24 <luke-jr> that one's an Athlon64 3200+
14:25 <Program1> you rly let that pc on for a week :)
14:25 <luke-jr> so probably about your P4
14:25 <luke-jr> Program1: my PCs are 24/7
14:25 <luke-jr> I've installed on a 586 laptop before ;)
14:25 <Program1> only 2 are 24/7 here :(
14:25 <flex> luke how long would you think my p4 3.2ghz and 8mbit would take?
14:26 <luke-jr> spidey: done
14:26 <spidey> i have things to build, ai to invade
14:26 <spidey> hold your horses
14:26 <luke-jr> flex: depends on how much you wanted to install, but probably a few hours
14:26 <luke-jr> Program1: 3 total here now
14:27 <luke-jr> Program1: not counting embedded
14:27 <Program1> how many in total?
14:27 <luke-jr> … I just told oyu
14:27 <Program1> i guess you have much pc-s :P
14:27 <luke-jr> 3 total at home that are powered
14:27 <spidey> i have 4
14:27 <spidey> =p
14:27 <Program1> 7 here :)
14:27 <luke-jr> 2 MIPS servers in the garage I've never turned on
14:27 <spidey> 5 whenever i get another HDD
14:27 <flex> 7pcs?
14:27 <flex> wtf do you do with 7 pcs
14:27 <spidey> lol
14:27 <luke-jr> one 550 MHz K3-2 powered off as emergency phone server
14:28 <luke-jr> one G3 iBook in pieces
14:28 <Program1> 3 of those 7 are not more then 1000 Mhz so those suck :(
14:28 <spidey> no way
14:28 <luke-jr> Make a real gift for your wife! http://bmohi.endfeel.com
14:30  * luke-jr blames spidey
14:30 <flex> how much space do you need for gentoo?
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14:31 <luke-jr> flex: I'd give itat least 5 GB
14:31 <flex> thats system files right?
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14:32 <flex> so 5gbs just for system
14:33 <wrtlprnft> gentoo isn't actually an end user system
14:34 <luke-jr> flex: actually, it's mostly temporary files :D
14:34 <wrtlprnft> if you want to have all the libraries and headers and stuff to compile an entire system you need a lot of space
14:34 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: an end user system needs libs too
14:34 <luke-jr> so in reality, the only extra stuff is headers
14:34 <wrtlprnft> and gentoo does keep the source archives of everything forever by default
14:34 <flex> i'm gona try it out on ubuntu first anyways
14:35 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: what about the toolchain? things like boost headers?
14:35 <knus> ubuntu doesnt take much time to install but read a install guide first as advice
14:36 <flex> na i installed it before
14:36 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: yeah, temporary files
14:36 <flex> never actually tried arma on it
14:36 <flex> lol
14:36 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: true on toolchain; boost headers are headers
14:36 <luke-jr> flex: Kubuntu*
14:37 <luke-jr> spidey:
14:37 <spidey> ?
14:37 <spidey> i don't like kubuntu-desktop
14:37 <luke-jr> spidey: you're an idiot
14:37 <luke-jr> stfu and turn done
14:38 <spidey> u
14:38 <luke-jr> u
14:38 <spidey> u
14:38 <flex> lol
14:38 <luke-jr> u
14:38 <spidey> u
14:38 <flex> luke i ubuntu is gnome?
14:38 <fonkay> stfu ppl
14:38 <spidey> fonkay!
14:38 <fonkay> me!
14:38 <spidey> i thought you died or something =O
14:39 <fonkay> naw, still kickin'
14:39 <flex> kickin what
14:39 <spidey> haha
14:39 <fonkay> it
14:39 <spidey> i was gonna say that :<
14:39 <flex> :p
14:39 <flex> had to be said
14:39 <fonkay> no it didn't
14:40 <flex> fonkay, your comeback would of been "your face"
14:40 <flex> but you never did :p
14:40 <fonkay> no.. my "comeback" or reply, was it.
14:40 <luke-jr> flex: plain ubuntu is gnome, yes
14:40 <fonkay> as in I'm currently kickin' it
14:40 <luke-jr> which is for n00bs
14:41 <luke-jr> well
14:41 <luke-jr> not even n00bs
14:41 <luke-jr> lusers
14:41 <luke-jr> :D
14:41 <spidey> linux users? RIGHT ON!
14:41 <fonkay> your fav is it?
14:41 <luke-jr> SERVER HOP ALERT
14:41 <luke-jr> spidey: turn DONE‼!
14:41 <spidey> lol
14:42 <luke-jr> spidey: imma go to bed -.-
14:42 <fonkay> anyone know what questviewer is?
14:42 <flex> why you hatin on unbuntu
14:42 <flex> you're gah
14:42 <luke-jr> flex: Kubuntu > Ubuntu
14:42 <spidey> then go
14:42 <spidey> kde > kubuntu
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14:43 <luke-jr> spidey: you make so much sense
14:43 <spidey> i no rite?
14:43 <flex> norite
14:43 <spidey> i didn't like kubuntu
14:43 <spidey> it was...different
14:43 <luke-jr> spidey: SHUT UP UNTIL YOU PRESS TURN DONE
14:44 <spidey> FU
14:44 <luke-jr> U
14:44  * luke-jr ponders invading spidey
14:44 <spidey> flex, how is your weekend going?
14:44 <flex> do it!
14:44 <luke-jr> lol
14:44 <flex> quite shitty infact
14:44 <spidey> luke would get his ass kicked
14:45 <fonkay> ok, just leave
14:45 <spidey> i have 295 point + 5 people that would ally me if i broke my current 2 alliances, and luke only has 214 points and is at war with everyone cept me and this other guy
14:45 <spidey> =p
14:45 <fonkay> anyone know what QuestViewer is? or why it would "stop working"?
14:45 <spidey> no, and yes
14:45 <spidey> stopped working cause it broke :D
14:45 <flex> it gives you questes? :p
14:46 <flex> quests
14:46 <fonkay> Yea, i don't even know what it is, let alone how in the fuck to fix it
14:46 <luke-jr> fonkay: delete Windows
14:46 <flex> haha
14:47 <fonkay> Who said I'm on windows?
14:47 <spidey> while true;do;rm -rf /home/luke-jr;done
14:47 <spidey> no more luke :<
14:47 <luke-jr> fonkay: your IRC client
14:47 <luke-jr> [07:52:05] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from fonkay: mIRC v6.31 Khaled Mardam-Bey
14:48 <flex> delete hard disk
14:48 <spidey> my irc client can lie
14:48 <luke-jr> spidey: want me to AI you?
14:48 <fonkay> I had this on my mac.
14:49 <luke-jr> fonkay: liar
14:49 <spidey> hah
14:49 <spidey> luke-jr, version me
14:49 <spidey> =p
14:50 <fonkay>  we have a mac and a pc, but when my old comp broke, and I had to buy this piece of shit, i was using this on my bf's mac
14:50 <spidey> hahaha
14:50 <K-Yo> is there a way to chose the size of a CENTER_MESSAGE?
14:50 <luke-jr> no
14:50 <luke-jr> well
14:50 <luke-jr> you could add spaces or newlines to the message
14:50 <K-Yo> ok
14:51 <K-Yo> newlines with?
14:51 <spidey> AI me
14:51 <K-Yo> t/m?
14:51 <luke-jr> \n
14:51 <spidey> i'm going to play  css;
14:51 <luke-jr> spidey: you suck
14:51 <spidey> you suck balls
14:51 <K-Yo> ok thx ;)
14:51 <spidey> my irc client says so
14:51 <luke-jr> ]help kick
14:51 <luke-jr> forgot he's not here
14:51 <luke-jr> ☹
14:52 <spidey> lolol
14:52 <spidey> nub
14:52 <luke-jr> u
14:52 <spidey> u
14:52 <luke-jr> #crazy-tronners is crazy
14:52 <luke-jr> it has 3 bots that all do the same thing
14:53 <spidey> i wonder if i could be mean
14:53 <spidey> xD
14:53 <spidey> .alias add test "]test" #alias add test ".test" ]alias add test "#test"
14:54 <spidey> xD
14:54 <spidey> well
14:54 <spidey> echo?
14:54 <spidey> i forget haven't added alias in awhile
14:55 <luke-jr> ow
14:55 <spidey> you fail
14:55 <luke-jr> u
14:56 <spidey> xD
14:58 <flex> smells a ban coming :p
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15:06 <luke-jr> wb manuel__
15:08 <epsy> #armaservers
15:08 <armabot> epsy: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (2 more messages)
15:08 <epsy> #sd mysql
15:08 <armabot> epsy: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (2 more messages)
15:08 <epsy> ^^
15:10 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft:
15:11 <flex> my bandwidth meter says i downloaded 150gbs this week :p
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15:39 <wrtlprnft> o_O
15:40 <wrtlprnft> what the hell is using all those connections?
15:40 <madmax> O_o
15:40 <wrtlprnft> php scripts do disconnect from mysql by themselves when they finish, right?
15:41 <wrtlprnft> /usr/bin/my_print_defaults: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
15:41 <wrtlprnft> bad idea.
15:41 <wrtlprnft> have fun waiting while i recompile mysql
15:41 <wrtlprnft> gentoo rocks.
15:43 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
15:47 <wrtlprnft> it hasn't even started compiling yet
15:47 <spidey> i wonder if windows will crash
15:47 <spidey> :O
15:48 <spidey> i'm extracting 12 files that have 12+ parts each
15:48 <spidey> xD
15:48 <spidey> at the sametime
15:49 <spidey> 1.3 second lag
15:49 <spidey> ncie XD
15:50 <wrtlprnft> wow. it finally started configuring
15:50 <wrtlprnft> portage keeps getting slower every day
15:51 <spidey> lol
15:51 <spidey> i may put gentoo on the server i'm not using atm
15:51 <spidey> or obsd
15:52 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i get the same effect :/
15:53 <wrtlprnft> well, it's gonna be a while till the server list works again
15:53 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: hey
15:53 <luke-jr> you're supposed to run revdep-rebuild
15:54 <luke-jr> dig NAPTR luke._armaauth.dashjr.org
15:54 <luke-jr> :D
15:54 <wrtlprnft> half of the time revdep-rebuild fails
15:55 <luke-jr> works for me all the time
15:55 <luke-jr> tho it loves to rebuild gcc unnecessarily
15:55 <luke-jr> what do you think of the DNS idea?
15:55  * wrtlprnft has no special knowledge about dns
15:56 <wrtlprnft> all i see is two regular expressions
15:56 <epsy> i must be getting crazy or very annoyed
15:56 <epsy> i'm starting writing a script against excessive smurfing
15:56 <epsy> huh
15:58 <z-man> smurfing?
15:59 <epsy> hiding under another name
15:59 <z-man> What's bad about that?
15:59 <epsy> has been gotten very annoying since some guys have more than 10+ smurf nicks
15:59 <wrtlprnft> like z-man always does when playing?
15:59 <epsy> kinda ;D
15:59 <z-man> heh
15:59 <madmax> haha
16:00  * madmax starts to play under a different name each day
16:00 <wrtlprnft> what about requiring a credit card number to play?
16:00 <epsy> hm; nice idea
16:00 <wrtlprnft> so you can only have as many nicks as you have credit cards
16:00 <wrtlprnft> that's 0 for me, but who cares
16:00 <madmax> Lucifer actually had a script to generate names and colors each time you run arma
16:00 <epsy> hm
16:01 <z-man> revdep_rebuild only works as long as you keep your system always up to date.
16:01 <epsy> what if hyphy comes?
16:01 <epsy> madmax, i had too
16:01 <wrtlprnft> well, i emerge sync && emerge -uDavN world about every week
16:01 <epsy> well, for the nick :p but everyone knew me, i wasn'T hiding
16:01 <wrtlprnft> but something always seems to fail
16:01 <wrtlprnft> which mean swork
16:01  * z-man knows
16:02 <epsy> #aka nara
16:02 <armabot> epsy: ¿6999 nara
16:02 <madmax> yeah, but the purpose of that one was for multiple people to use it, while having the same nick list
16:02 <epsy> #rating epsy
16:02 <madmax> nara is bubbletea
16:02 <armabot> epsy: epsy is 1078th with a rating of 1473-1558 (from 1474-1557)
16:02 <epsy> pf :s
16:02 <epsy> used to be #140 or smth
16:03 <wrtlprnft> besides being always afraid of annoying too many players when doing it in the evening on the server that runs café
16:03 <epsy> madmax, who's that?
16:03 <epsy> wrtlprnft, do it in the mroning please
16:03 <epsy> *please*
16:03 <wrtlprnft> i try to
16:03 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that it tends to fail
16:03 <madmax> epsy: some guy who plays in nexus9
16:04 <wrtlprnft> so when i come back in the evening i have to fix it
16:04 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=194192#194192
16:04  * luke-jr ponders if he needs to translate that
16:04 <wrtlprnft> a genious idea indeed
16:04 <wrtlprnft> what's it about again?
16:04 <epsy> where have server activity graphs gone ?
16:05 <luke-jr> epsy: did someone steal your name?
16:05 <luke-jr> #aka epsy
16:05 <epsy> luke-jr, hm no
16:05 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿143 player_1_2.o nikolaus_1 pere_fouettard epussy norris ady-hismomsslav ady-momslave |x|_fofo2 |x|frenchellent epu|x|y epsybic epsy pep|x|i epsy|x| g4 |x|epsy:eplayer |x|player_1_2.o
16:05 <wrtlprnft> epsy: sort of into the void
16:05 <epsy> i'm not talking about nick protection
16:05 <spidey> #weather 38256
16:05 <wrtlprnft> maybe i'll make new ones once mysql works again
16:05 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 14.5°F (9:09 AM CST on January 20, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Rising).
16:05 <spidey> 14 degrees
16:05 <spidey> argh
16:06 <epsy> weed plants are gonna die ?
16:06 <wrtlprnft> but when they were last running, the time to update them was longer than the interval between starting updates
16:06 <spidey> no
16:06 <wrtlprnft> leading to … bad things.
16:06 <spidey> it means that's why the water in the shower isn't working
16:06 <spidey> the pipes are frozen -.-
16:06 <luke-jr> uh oh
16:06 <luke-jr> how did you let that happen?
16:06 <epsy> oh, 14 )F not )C :P
16:06 <spidey> well
16:06 <luke-jr> that can cause some real damage
16:06 <spidey> see
16:06 <spidey> we left water runnning everywhere else
16:07 <luke-jr> so your shower's dead
16:07 <spidey> yea
16:07 <spidey> =/
16:07 <epsy> so you smell
16:07 <luke-jr> why do you leave water running
16:07 <luke-jr> just keep the house a decent temperature
16:07 <luke-jr> freak
16:07 <spidey> running water don't freeze
16:07 <wrtlprnft> ah great
16:07 <spidey> unless it's REALLY cold
16:07 <luke-jr> spidey: neither does warm water
16:07 <luke-jr> XD
16:07 <wrtlprnft>  * Your gcc has a bug with GCC_SPECS.
16:07 <wrtlprnft>  * Please re-emerge gcc.
16:07 <wrtlprnft>  * http://bugs.gentoo.org/68395
16:07 <spidey> yes it does
16:07 <wrtlprnft> *cry*
16:07 <luke-jr> LOL
16:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: in case you haven't noticed, you don't really have a choice in keeping Gentoo up to date ;
16:08 <luke-jr> ;)
16:08 <luke-jr> it's an illusion
16:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: btw, do I need to translate that forum post, or do you understand it? XD
16:08 <wrtlprnft> but I *did* update
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16:08 <spidey> btw
16:08 <spidey> luke
16:08 <spidey> retard
16:08 <luke-jr> spidey: u
16:09 <MrBougo> no u
16:09 <spidey> water pipes are almost always under the house
16:09 <wrtlprnft> i understand that it's totally ununderstandable to normal folks
16:09 <luke-jr> spidey: and?
16:09 <z-man> luke-jr: you need to translate it for me, I'd just ignore it otherwise :)
16:09 <spidey> heat rises, so the temp of the house doesn't matter
16:09 <luke-jr> fine fine
16:10 <wrtlprnft> #babelize english french dig NAPTR luke._armaauth.dashjr.org Idea: PseudoCode wrote: AuthToken = "luke@dashjr.org"; AuthDNS = AuthToken; AuthDNS =~ s/\.\.\.$/.auth.armagetronad.net/; AuthDNS =~ s/^(.*)@(.*)$/$1._armaauth.$2/; lookup NAPTR for AuthDNS; run AuthToken through AuthDNS to get: AuthMethod = { "xmpp:luke@dashjr.org?message;subject=Armagetron%20Authentication;body=Your%20one-time-password%20is%20EXAMPLE", "http://auth.aa.dashjr.org/auth.php?vhost=dashjr.org&user=luke&seed=EXAMPLE", }
16:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No closing quotation
16:10 <wrtlprnft> #babelize english french dig NAPTR luke._armaauth.dashjr.org Idea: PseudoCode wrote: AuthToken = 'luke@dashjr.org'; AuthDNS = AuthToken; AuthDNS =~ s/\.\.\.$/.auth.armagetronad.net/; AuthDNS =~ s/^(.*)@(.*)$/$1._armaauth.$2/; lookup NAPTR for AuthDNS; run AuthToken through AuthDNS to get: AuthMethod = { 'xmpp:luke@dashjr.org?message;subject=Armagetron%20Authentication;body=Your%20one-time-password%20is%20EXAMPLE', 'http://auth.aa.dashjr.org/auth.php?vhost=dashjr.org&user=luke&seed=EXAMPLE', }
16:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: idée de l'excavation NAPTR luke._armaauth.dashjr.org : Le pseudo code a écrit : AuthToken = 'luke@dashjr.org '; AuthDNS = AuthToken ; AuthDNS = ~ s/\.\.\.$/.auth.armagetronad.net/; AuthDNS = ~ s/^(.*)@(.*)$/$1._armaauth.$2/; consultation NAPTR pour AuthDNS ; courez AuthToken par AuthDNS pour obtenir : AuthMethod = {'xmpp:luke@dashjr.org?message;subject=Armagetron%20Authentication;body=Your (1 more message)
16:11 <wrtlprnft> ok, now i totally understand
16:11 <wrtlprnft> thanks luke-jr and armabot
16:11 <luke-jr> LOL
16:11 <epsy> #more wrtlprnft
16:11 <armabot> epsy: %20one-time-password%20is%20EXAMPLE ', 'http://auth.aa.da
16:12 <luke-jr> z-man: how's that translation?
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16:13 <luke-jr> basically, the NAPTR DNS record allows us to specify weighed and prioritized URIs for authenticating an account
16:14 <luke-jr> so one could specify http://auth.aa.dashjr.org/auth.php?…… for luke@dashjr.org, and I could even define flex@dashjr.org to authenticate off-site
16:15 <luke-jr> I think the hardest part would be the failover, but we could ignore that for now ☺
16:15 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: by the way, you do have a choice about updating gentoo. you can just leave it alone for a couple of months and eventually nice guys from china and i don't know where else will take care of your server for you. They'll even install new stuff on it, all for free
16:16 <luke-jr> haha
16:20 <wrtlprnft> mysql *still* isn't building
16:21 <spidey> that's what you get for using gentoo!
16:28 <wrtlprnft> finally configure is running
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16:41 <epsy> omg
16:41 <epsy> i always get the same thing happening while using kde apps
16:41 <epsy> these apps handles focus weird or smth
16:42 <epsy> what i type always end up in another window or gets interpreted as keyboard shortcut
16:44 <luke-jr> epsy: not if you use KDE
16:44 <epsy> kde's wm sucks
16:44 <epsy> and kde sucks in genral atm
16:46 <luke-jr> KDE's WM does what a WM should do :þ
16:47 <luke-jr> nothing more, sure, but I don't care for that eye candy :þ
16:47 <epsy> not quite sure about that
16:54 <z-man> http://proxy/~manuel/scripttest/test.php?user=test&salt=35e9c7afbb684c841bc96430790d8bb5&hash=88f2398ffe9fd77af1a581b408fc130e
16:54 <z-man> Yay, my first php script :)
16:54 <z-man> oh, sorry
16:55 <z-man> http://moosnet.homelinux.net/~manuel/scripttest/test.php?user=test&salt=35e9c7afbb684c841bc96430790d8bb5&hash=88f2398ffe9fd77af1a581b408fc130e
16:55 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervisco] has joined #armagetron
16:55 <z-man> Let's see if you can hack it :)
16:55  * z-man left a bit of a backdoor in there
16:55 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
16:56 <z-man> or rather, "forgot" three of the four walls.
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16:59 <luke-jr> z-man: O.o
17:00 <z-man> for debugging purposes only, obviously.
17:00 <z-man> the password would of course be "test", too.
17:00 <luke-jr> design change too
17:00 <luke-jr> for the better IMO
17:00 <z-man> Yeah, it makes no sense for the auth server to give out any more info than neccessary
17:01 <z-man> a simple YES or NO needs to suffice :)
17:01 <z-man> It's bad enough that a md5 digest runs through the servers, IMHO.
17:01  * z-man wonders what is easier to crack:
17:01 <z-man> is it easier to hack md5,
17:02 <z-man> or to listen on webserver-to-forum connection and fish the password out in plan text?
17:02 <luke-jr> oooh, the latter is a single connection to sniff for everything :D
17:03 <luke-jr> MD5 isn't really hackable IIRC
17:03 <luke-jr> you need to plan in advance to create a collision
17:03 <z-man> maybe, yes.
17:04 <z-man> About the sniffing, I heard horror tales of datacenters where you could just listen to all the collective network traffic of all servers.
17:04 <luke-jr> "just listen" sounds exaggerated
17:04 <luke-jr> you'd probably need to run ettercap
17:05 <z-man> Yeah, of course :)
17:05 <z-man> "just" means by standard and well known means.
17:05 <luke-jr> ok
17:06 <luke-jr> well, not much anyone can do about that
17:06 <luke-jr> you'd need routers instead of switches everywhere
17:06 <luke-jr> which would kill latency to IP filter every packet
17:08 <luke-jr> answer: don't do plaintext communications ☺
17:09 <luke-jr> for example
17:09 <luke-jr> I could use ettercap to sniff about 1000 customers of my cable ISP
17:09 <luke-jr> without messing with the analog layer
17:11 <z-man> Eek.
17:13 <luke-jr> in fact
17:13 <luke-jr> I have successfully used ettercap to not only sniff, but hijack an IP address and make use of it for originating connections
17:14 <luke-jr> if I was evil, I could get every nearby business using the cable service on RBLs
17:15 <luke-jr> moral of the story: never trust an IP address ☺
17:17 <luke-jr> anyhow, any ideas for the problem of turning a domain name into a full URI? :þ
17:18 <wrtlprnft> err
17:18 <luke-jr> can't exactly hard code /~manual/some.php
17:18 <wrtlprnft> maybe hardcode something else
17:18 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RDw9yx7gEM&NR=1
17:19 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: then you're forcing everyone to use PHP, etc
17:20 <wrtlprnft> hardcode it to not include an extension
17:21 <K-Yo> :D
17:21 <wrtlprnft> then they can make it a directory with an index.somsthing in it if they don't have access to .htaccess
17:22 <luke-jr> good idea
17:22 <P4> wrtlprnft: is there anything wrong with http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?
17:22 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
17:22 <luke-jr> … p4
17:22 <P4> did i miss something?
17:22 <luke-jr> yes
17:23 <wrtlprnft> no
17:23 <wrtlprnft> it's working absolutely fine
17:23 <wrtlprnft> that's just a new feature
17:23 <P4> :)
17:23 <wrtlprnft> it's the ld: failed to load libsomething.so.42 feature
17:24 <P4> ah, it's all about that $#%^$#@ .42
17:24 <wrtlprnft> combined with the emerge: please do *something*, then emerge *something* then re-emerge everything, then run revdep-rebuild feature
17:25 <P4> yea… that's pure gentoo :þ
17:25  * luke-jr gives wrtlprnft a hug
17:26 <P4> ah, i've found the messges about mySQL recompiling…
17:26 <wrtlprnft> i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr\"" -DDATADIR="\"/var/lib/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/share/mysql\"" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../regex -I.     -DDBUG_OFF -march=pentium2 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -DHAVE_ERRNO_AS_DEFINE=1 -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-implicit-templates   -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -MT opt_sum.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/opt_sum.Tpo -c -o opt_sum.o opt_sum.cc
17:26 <wrtlprnft> if that helps anyone figure out how long it's gonna take
17:27 <luke-jr> about 4 hours
17:27 <wrtlprnft> note the not at all redundand use of command lines
17:27 <wrtlprnft> *command options
17:28 <wrtlprnft> or whatever they're called
17:28 <wrtlprnft>        current merge time: 1 hour, 15 minutes and 52 seconds.
17:28 <wrtlprnft>        ETA: 33 minutes and 56 seconds.
17:29 <wrtlprnft> i think that's more accurate than luke-jr 
17:29 <luke-jr> :þ
17:29 <luke-jr> hey, wrtlprnft
17:29 <luke-jr> you just gave me a great idea
17:30 <luke-jr> on how to estimate build times
17:30 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:30 <luke-jr> the first time it's built anywhere, mark the # of lines output at 10 seconds
17:30 <luke-jr> then record the total seconds it takes on that system
17:31 <luke-jr> then, if you get to eg, line 51 at 5 seconds, we know your system is 2x fastre
17:31 <wrtlprnft> won't help if the output of the compile run changed
17:31 <wrtlprnft> because of USE flags or minor revisions
17:31 <luke-jr> true
17:34 <wrtlprnft> wow, what kind of geek do you need to be to write your first script in a language and immediately start asking complicated questions about exceptions?
17:35 <wrtlprnft> i didn't even care about exceptions in php yet because i figured they'd suck about as much as classes in php
17:35 <luke-jr> haha
17:35 <luke-jr> yeah they do I think
17:35 <luke-jr> since no builtins use them
17:35 <luke-jr> XD
17:42 <spidey> armabot weather 38256
17:42 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 19.0°F (10:47 AM CST on January 20, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036.5 hPa (Rising).
17:44 <luke-jr> #weather 68127
17:44 <armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in Omaha Millard, Nebraska is 14.0°F (10:30 AM CST on January 20, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
17:44 <luke-jr> spidey: no water running OR frozen
17:44 <luke-jr> pwnt
17:45 <spidey> so?
17:45 <spidey> your pipes are probably insalated
17:45 <luke-jr> insulated*
17:45 <luke-jr> btw
17:45 <spidey> w/e
17:46 <luke-jr> any pipes outdoors are going to be common
17:46 <luke-jr> there won't be a seperate one for the showe
17:46 <luke-jr> not to mention the shower's will be from the hot water heater
17:46 <luke-jr> so just run hot water to melt it
17:46 <luke-jr> tho that might be a bad idea if they really are frozen
17:46 <spidey> ......................
17:47 <spidey> and actually
17:47 <tramshed> 14?
17:47 <tramshed> hah
17:47 <tramshed> Ill trade
17:47 <tramshed> -17 here
17:47 <spidey> -17?
17:47 <spidey> wtf
17:47 <tramshed> welcome to the midwest
17:48 <tramshed> oh wait
17:48 <tramshed> it warmed up
17:48 <luke-jr> …
17:48 <tramshed> -15 now
17:48 <tramshed> 5 without the windchill
17:48 <luke-jr> tramshed: TN isn't considered midwest?
17:48 <luke-jr> NE certainly is, and that's the 14
17:48 <tramshed> nah
17:48 <tramshed> tn is south
17:48 <tramshed> armabot weather 49117
17:49 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Beacher, 10th/Franklin St, Michigan City, Indiana is 6.4°F (10:53 AM CST on January 20, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -4.0°F. Windchill: -9.4°F. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034.1 hPa (Rising).  Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 10 am EST this morning...
17:49 <tramshed> wow, thats wrong
17:49 <tramshed> where the hell is beacher
17:49 <tramshed> thats not even the right state, haha
17:49 <luke-jr> lol
17:50  * deja_vu wonders what the hell gnuplot is doing with a butt Oo
17:50 <tramshed> http://www.weather.com/weather/local/49117?lswe=49117&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&from=whatwhere
17:50 <deja_vu> Options are 'eps enhanced defaultplex \ leveldefault monochrome colortext \ dashed dashlength 1.0 linewidth 1.0 butt \ palfuncparam 2000,0.003 \ "Helvetica" 14 '
17:51 <luke-jr> deja_vu: wtf
17:52 <deja_vu> luke-jr: exactly O.o
17:53 <spidey> btw luke-jr
17:53 <spidey> you're not hosting the civ games anymore
17:53 <spidey> :D
17:54 <luke-jr> spidey: gfy
17:55 <spidey> yes good for me
17:55 <spidey> because i won't have to wait 1 minute + for the next turn after everyone's hit turn done
17:55 <spidey> =p
17:57 <luke-jr> yeah sure
17:57 <luke-jr> only 30 seconds
17:58 <spidey> says you
17:59 <luke-jr> it has nothing to do with latency/lag btw
17:59 <luke-jr> it's CPU bound
18:03 <spidey> it's still there
18:03 <spidey> =p
18:03 <spidey> and it won't be there if i host it
18:04 <luke-jr> 500 MHz to 2 GHz or whatever is only 4x difference
18:04 <luke-jr> so you'll cut 2 mins down to 30 secs
18:04 <spidey> 2.4
18:04 <spidey> and
18:04 <spidey> yea?
18:04 <spidey> 30seconds is alot less than 2 minutes
18:04 <luke-jr> indeed
18:05 <spidey> and it's not just the clock speeds that count
18:05 <luke-jr> good point
18:05 <luke-jr> so not even down to 30 secs
18:05 <luke-jr> :þ
18:05 <spidey> you got FSB, L1 and L2 cache to think about to
18:06 <spidey> anyways
18:07 <spidey> i figured out why i was getting lag
18:07 <spidey> locally
18:07 <luke-jr> cuz it ain't lag
18:07 <spidey> the gtk2 client blows
18:07 <luke-jr> it's gtk2
18:07 <luke-jr> duh
18:07 <spidey> when you highlight a unit, and your CPU goes to 100%
18:07 <spidey> you don't see lag?
18:08 <luke-jr> maybe your CPU
18:08 <wrtlprnft> >>> Source compiled.
18:08 <wrtlprnft> finally
18:08 <luke-jr> I don't see lag. I see lots of computing.
18:08 <spidey> but it's still lag?
18:08 <spidey> lots of computing would equal what to the user?
18:10 <luke-jr> slowness
18:11 <luke-jr> spidey: gonna take your civ back from teh AI?
18:12 <spidey> probably not since the ai probably trashed it
18:12 <spidey> and slowness is what?
18:13 <luke-jr> delays
18:14 <spidey> so it's lag?
18:14 <spidey> and wtf at this client
18:17 <spidey> i don't think i like civ anymore
18:17 <wrtlprnft> does anyone know how to use mingw to create a standalone executable?
18:18 <wrtlprnft> one that doesn't depend on any libraries that aren't on a normal windows machine
18:20 <guru3> static linking?
18:20 <z-man> isn't that the standard operation of mingw?
18:20 <z-man> I mean, the code::blocks builds we do of arma are done with mingw.
18:21 <z-man> And apart from the extra libraries we use, we don't have to put in anything.
18:21 <z-man> It's cygwin that requires extra stuff.
18:21 <z-man> besides, be glad that your server has more than 266 MHz :)
18:22 <wrtlprnft> well, it complains about a missing mingwm10.dll
18:22 <z-man> Hmm.
18:22 <z-man> Did you cross-compile?
18:23 <wrtlprnft> no
18:23 <wrtlprnft> i just managed to compile my own qt that links statically
18:23 <z-man> Eek, qt on Windows.
18:24 <wrtlprnft> well, it works, sort of
18:24  * luke-jr has a Qt cross-compile setup
18:24 <luke-jr> wait, are we adding Qt to Arma or is this something else?
18:24 <z-man> Perhaps it's a special dll that only is required if the programmer uses certain functions.
18:24 <wrtlprnft> something totally different
18:24 <wrtlprnft> i'm not exactly using lots of functions
18:25 <z-man> But Qt may be :)
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18:25 <luke-jr> z-man: mingwm10.dll is always required
18:25 <luke-jr> for MingW
18:25 <wrtlprnft> this is supposed to be a demo program for my facharbeit
18:25 <spidey> luke-jr, what server version you running?
18:25 <wrtlprnft> and i need it on windows for my teacher to run it
18:25 <luke-jr> spidey: shurg
18:25 <z-man> luke-jr: really? How do our arma builds work then?
18:25 <luke-jr> z-man: static linked?
18:25 <z-man> Don't ask me :)
18:26 <guru3> magic
18:26 <wrtlprnft> well, how do you tell mingw/qt/qmake/whatever to statically link it
18:26 <wrtlprnft> mind that i have no clue on how windows works
18:26 <luke-jr> something += static
18:26 -!- G5_Ger [n=G5_Ger@p57962902.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
18:26 <z-man>  /insert standard joke here, like Neither Does Microsoft, hahaha
18:26 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
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18:28 <spidey> luke-jr, is it 2.0?
18:28 <luke-jr> of course not
18:28 <luke-jr> retard
18:28 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@15.231-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
18:28 <spidey> i don't like these new clients
18:28 <spidey> :|
18:29 <wrtlprnft> apparently you only need mingwm if you use threads
18:30 <luke-jr> O.o
18:30 <luke-jr> I guess that would explain it
18:31 <wrtlprnft>
18:31 <wrtlprnft> why not compile qt again?
18:32 <wrtlprnft> it's not like this is the 4th time i'm doing that :-(
18:32 <spidey> luke-jr, why tell me to come take my civ back
18:32 <spidey> if you're not in there
18:32 <luke-jr> -no-exceptions wtf
18:32 <luke-jr> spidey: I am
18:33 <spidey> why is your civ not have a state?
18:33 <luke-jr> client crashed
18:33 <spidey> lol
18:33 <luke-jr> cuz u joined I bet
18:36 <spidey> woot
18:36 <spidey> i miss the 2.0.9 client
18:36 <spidey> :<
18:38 -!- Hoax- [n=Hoax@cpc5-oxfd8-0-0-cust434.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron
18:38 <luke-jr> hi Hoax-
18:38 <Hoax-> yo luke-jr
18:45  * GodTodd notes that luke-jr must not know a whole lot about plumbing.
18:45 <luke-jr> GodTodd: not a thing
18:46 <GodTodd> and it shows :)
18:51 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
18:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 26 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (13/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Fortress Café (10/32), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), || Vulcano's Server || ONLY NOOBS || Vulcanion.com || (6/6), G-Land (6/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5/12), The Tavern (5/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena (2 more messages)
18:52 <wrtlprnft> :)
18:52 <guru3> ddl :S
18:52 <wrtlprnft> #ss d u r k
18:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | -: PLAYERS (12): dbdnano (17), RainboW (8), The Kingzor (8), Dc|Dust (5), Zak (4), ¦Hítõ (3), Ap0calypTic (2), Dodobird (2), In de club (2), IAN FO NYshizzy (1), Carterio (0), Kriki (0)
18:52  * guru3 waves from the server
18:53 <guru3> i keep dieing
18:53 <guru3> either cause i'm crap or cause im' hungry
18:53 <guru3> 50/50
18:55 <Hoax-> shift + esc is your best option in ddl
18:55 <guru3> already did it
18:55 <Hoax-> haha
18:56 <guru3> i'm just too hungry to play
18:56 <guru3> as i play more and more ive gotten worse and worse, right along side getting more and more hungry
18:56 <Hoax-> I guess this is what happens when a man doesn't get enough food
18:57 <Hoax-> I'll keep an emergency supply nearby just in case i feel an urge to go into ddl
19:02 <guru3> i have food
19:02 <guru3> but it's all junk food
19:02 <guru3> and dinner is soon
19:09 <guru3> crud
19:10 <guru3> lucifer posted a reply between the time i read and the time i replied
19:11 <Hoax-> guru3 when u off back to steel city
19:11 <guru3> already here
19:12 <Hoax-> oh lol
19:12 <z-man> Ouch!
19:13 <z-man> Arma's md5 stuff puts the trailing 0 into the hash.
19:13 <epsy> lol
19:13 <guru3> that... doesn't sound good
19:14 <Hoax-> you been to corporation?
19:14 <guru3> no
19:14 <epsy> #help serverscores
19:14 <armabot> epsy: (serverscores <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/scores.php?name=[urlquote $*]]".
19:15 <Hoax-> haha ok, I got a friend always banging on about it
19:21 <z-man> guru3: indeed :/ That was the problem you had back then with the phpbb authentication, I guess.
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19:21 <guru3> no for some reason md5s from aa
19:21 <guru3> weren't the 128bit
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19:24 <guru3> dinner now, bbl
19:38 <z-man> [1] Fetching authentication URL http://moosnet.homelinux.net/armaauth/md5/?user=test&salt=cb87cd10dc7974b95b81cf5f5a4fe252&hash=109de9bdb4bffbc423d7e415adc227ad
19:38 <z-man> [1] Answer: PASSWORD_OK
19:38 <z-man> [1] test has been logged in by the power of authority moosnet.homelinux.net.
19:38 <z-man> Hah!
19:39 <z-man> Feel the power of authority moosnet!
19:48 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron
19:51 <epsy> #aka knuw
19:51 <epsy> #aka knus
19:51 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about 'knuw'!
19:51 <armabot> epsy: ¿4593 knus
19:51 <epsy> #aka freako
19:51 <armabot> epsy: ¿3852 cc_dishwasher depleted defrfztacaheavo heavoc tarrot freako
19:54 <K-Yo> epsy: je crois pas que knus ait un alias
19:55 <epsy> c freako
19:55 <epsy> 100% sur
19:59 <luke-jr> z-man: weren't your modifications going to be in trunk anyway?
20:00 <z-man> I'm working off 0.2.8
20:00 <luke-jr> o
20:00 <luke-jr> threaded HTTP seems like a high-risk change O.o
20:00 <z-man> But a test merge with the trunk instead gave only little conflicts in ePlayer.cpp.
20:00 <z-man> I started before that was in discussion :)
20:00 <luke-jr> maybe you should branch 0.2.8 to 0.2.8-auth then?
20:00 <z-man> Yeah, that would be an idea.
20:01 <z-man> I'm still pondering the possibilities while I work in my local checkout only.
20:01 <luke-jr> any reason to use a hex salt?
20:01 <z-man> It is binary in reality.
20:02 <z-man> it's just hexcoded to fit in the URL :)
20:02 <z-man> just like the hash, really.
20:02 <luke-jr> URIs support binary data with %xx :þ
20:02 <luke-jr> then PHP or Apache should decode for you
20:02  * z-man likes his urls readable
20:04  * z-man also likes to pretend his decisions are not governed by lack of knowledge of the alternatives.
20:06 <K-Yo> epsy, http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3111/screenshot32jd4.png
20:08 <xfroggy> who's rain in here I keep forgetting
20:08 <epsy> vinavil
20:08 <K-Yo> vinavil
20:08 <luke-jr> vinavil
20:08 <xfroggy> ah
20:08 <luke-jr> !
20:09 <xfroggy> lol
20:09 <Lucifer_bed> sohwhahtanahssiam
20:09 <Lucifer_bed> wrtlprnft: ^^
20:09 <Lucifer_bed> something like that
20:09 <luke-jr> z-man: can we at least prepend a _armaauth subdomain? ☺
20:09 <Lucifer_bed> it spells out, if you say it out loud, "So what an ass I am"
20:10 <Lucifer_bed> also, folks should really /msg Lucifer instead of Lucifer_bed, I hardly ever use this computer for anything more than an alarm clock :)
20:10 <z-man> So we can wake you up in the middle of the night if we hack into it?
20:11 <Lucifer_bed> you can try :)
20:11 <z-man> luke-jr: I don't think normal server owners have even that much control over their DNS.
20:11 <Lucifer_bed> I might use it more now that school's started
20:11 <luke-jr> z-man: :\
20:11 <Lucifer_bed> I got a hand-me-down corner desk for it over the winter break, so it's now a good place to do homework and stuff
20:12  * z-man got a hand-me-down two part couch instead
20:12 <Lucifer_bed> can't do homework on a couch!  :)
20:12 <z-man> really useful for slacking
20:12 <Lucifer_bed> that would be anti-homework furniture
20:13 <Lucifer_bed> of course I"m not happy finding my web browser open to an LDS page :/
20:13 <luke-jr> :O
20:16 <Lucifer_bed> it means my mother-in-law is visiting and wanted to know when the local ward meets
20:17 <Lucifer_bed> oh yeah, I finally released an accounting program
20:17 <Lucifer_bed> one that actually works :)
20:19 <z-man> Cool.
20:21 <Lucifer_bed> anybody know how to copy an iso filesystem?
20:21 <Lucifer_bed> I have a cdrom I want to put on the server, and the server doesn't have a cdrom drive
20:26 <z-man> You want to read the iso's content?
20:26 <z-man> You can mount it over the loopback device, then, let me check how
20:27 <z-man> mount file.iso /cdrom -t iso9660 -o loop
20:27 <z-man> shortest howto ever : http://thomer.com/howtos/mount_loopback.html
20:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer_bed: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=some.iso
20:28 <z-man> kind of reminds me of http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
20:28 <z-man> luke-jr: don't click!
20:28 <luke-jr> …
20:28 <Lucifer_bed> z-man: that part I knew, I didn't know how to copy the contents from the cd to the hard drive :)  (at least, not without using mkisofs, which could break the contents, since it's a windows program that's on it)
20:29 <Lucifer_bed> luke-jr: thanks, I'll try that.  I was wondering if dd would get me the iso filesystem or something else.
20:39 <epsy> libervisco, SCORE_DIE -1 or 0 maybe
20:40 <epsy> SCORE_SUICIDE is fine i think
20:48 -!- ct|kyl1 [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
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20:56 -!- Goodygumdrops [n=Goodygum@h186.165.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
20:56 <K-Yo> hi
20:57 <Goodygumdrops> boo
20:57 <Goodygumdrops> I had to make sure I could get on irc
20:57 <Goodygumdrops> experiment succesful
20:57 <K-Yo> ;)
21:00 <Lucifer_bed> oh no, who let him in here?
21:00 <Goodygumdrops> :-\
21:01  * madmax greets Goodygumdrops 
21:01 <Goodygumdrops> how's it goin madmax
21:01 <xfroggy> omg Goodygumdrops in irc!!!!!!!!!!
21:01 <Goodygumdrops> omg!
21:01 <xfroggy> :D
21:01 <xfroggy> I though you don't like it? :D
21:01 <Goodygumdrops> it's okay
21:01 <xfroggy> haha xD
21:02 <Goodygumdrops> I'm on trillian's irc plug-in
21:02 <Goodygumdrops> I can't even tell
21:02 <Goodygumdrops> looks just like aim to me
21:02 <cusco> ew
21:02 <xfroggy> ^^ :D
21:02 <cusco> that sucks small things
21:02 <Goodygumdrops> haha, whatever
21:02 <Goodygumdrops> idc
21:02 <Lucifer_bed> hah, my logic book is awesome
21:02 <epsy> #armaconfig 24
21:02 <epsy> #armaconfig 12
21:02 <armabot> epsy: INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_24: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: /team You all suck, I want a new team.) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_2_24: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: /team You all suck, I want a new team.) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_3_24: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: /team You all suck, I want a new team.) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_4_24: Instant chat available with (1 more message)
21:02 <armabot> epsy: INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_12: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: http://www.armagetronad.net) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_2_12: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: http://www.armagetronad.net) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_3_12: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: http://www.armagetronad.net) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_4_12: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: (1 more message)
21:02 <epsy> #more
21:02 <epsy> ...
21:03 <Goodygumdrops> 0.o
21:03 <Lucifer_bed> "28 children in the US were killed by falling television sets between 1990 and 1997.  That is four times as many people as were killed by great white shark attacks in the twentieth century.  Loosely speaking, this means that watching "Jaws" on TV is more dangerous than swimming in the Pacific."
21:03 <xfroggy> lol
21:03 <Goodygumdrops> nice
21:03 <Hoax-> LOL Goodygumdrops
21:03 <Hoax-> hi :D
21:03 <Goodygumdrops> oh man, I didn't know you were gonna be here...
21:03 <Hoax-> lmfao
21:04 <Hoax-> wasup GEEK
21:04 <Hoax-> the sky?
21:04 <Goodygumdrops> you guessed it
21:05 <Hoax-> join ct's channel you can spam but only annoy P4
21:05 <epsy> #armaconfig format
21:05 <epsy> #armaconfig time
21:05 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
21:05 <armabot> epsy: CHATTER_REMOVE_TIME: Time in seconds after which a permanent chatter is removed from the game (default: 180) || CYCLE_DELAY_TIMEBASED: Turn delays will be based on the time since the last turn if this is 1 (default) and the distance if this is 0. Intermediate values and values out of these bounds are supported as well. (default: 1) || CYCLE_DELAY_TIMEBASED_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when (12 more messages)
21:05 <Goodygumdrops> why would I want to join ct's channel?
21:05 <Hoax-> #aka Guy
21:05 <armabot> Hoax-: ¿4213 crucial guy retro_guy
21:05 <epsy> #more
21:05 <armabot> epsy: CYCLE_DELAY_TIMEBASED differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME: Time in seconds a cycle is invulnerable after a respawn. (default: 0) || CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MALUS_TIME: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 5) || CYCLE_RUBBER_TIME: Timescale rubber is restored on. (default: 10) || CYCLE_RUBBER_TIMEBASED: Rubber usage is based on (11 more messages)
21:05 <epsy> #more
21:05 <armabot> epsy: distance travelled if this is 0 (default) and the time passed if this is 1. Intermediate values and values out of these bounds are supported as well. (default: 0) || CYCLE_RUBBER_TIMEBASED_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_TIMEBASED differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_TIME_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_TIME differs from its default? (10 more messages)
21:05 <epsy> #more
21:05 <armabot> epsy: (default: 3) || CYCLE_SMOOTH_TIME: Timescale for smoothing options. Increasing this will make interpolation smoother, but less accurate. Decreasing it will make network synchronization jumpy. (default: 0.3) || CYCLE_TIME_TOLERANCE: Maximum time difference of execution of turns on server and client (for clients that send timing information) (default: 0.1) || CYCLE_TIME_TOLERANCE_OVERRIDEBlock: (9 more messages)
21:05 <madmax> jeez
21:05 <epsy> #more
21:05 <armabot> epsy: out older clients when CYCLE_TIME_TOLERANCE differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_WALL_TIME: Time in seconds a cycle does not make a wall after a respawn. (default: 0) || CYCLE_WALL_TIME_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 3) || DOUBLEBIND_TIME: Time in seconds during which no two different keyboard events can trigger the same action (default: -10) || DOUBLEBIND_TIME_OVERRIDE: Block out (8 more messages)
21:05 <madmax>  /query armabot
21:05 <epsy> #more
21:06 <armabot> epsy: older clients when DOUBLEBIND_TIME differs from its default? (default: 3) || DRAWLINE_TIMEOUT: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10000) || ENEMY_CURRENTTIME_INFLUENCE: If set to 1, not the build time of the encountered wall, but the current time enters the comparison of enemy influences. Arbitrary blending values are allowed. (default: 0) || ENEMY_SUICIDE_TIMEOUT: If no enemy influence can be found for the (7 more messages)
21:06 <Goodygumdrops> is this necessary?
21:06 <madmax> it's in epsy's nature to spam
21:06 <epsy> omg im getting nervous
21:06 <epsy> how do i turn on 24 hrs clock in arma
21:06 <xfroggy> LOL
21:06 <madmax> there's a menu entry
21:06 <Hoax-> rofl just go to the menu
21:07 <epsy> where the fuck?
21:07 <xfroggy> epsy, Hud Options
21:07 <MrBougo> #more epsy
21:07 <armabot> MrBougo: last this many seconds, a player's death counts as a suicide. (default: 10000) || EXTRA_ROUND_TIME: Lenght of an extra pause at the beginning of the round (default: 0) || GAMEOBJECT_MOVE_TIMEOUT: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10) || GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (default: 10) || IDLE_KICK_TIME: Time in seconds after which (6 more messages)
21:08 <MrBougo> #armaconfig clock
21:08 <armabot> MrBougo: Sorry, no matches :S
21:08 <MrBougo> #more epsy
21:08 <MrBougo> #more epsy
21:08 <MrBougo> #more epsy
21:08 <armabot> MrBougo: last this many seconds, a player's death counts as a suicide. (default: 10000) || EXTRA_ROUND_TIME: Lenght of an extra pause at the beginning of the round (default: 0) || GAMEOBJECT_MOVE_TIMEOUT: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10) || GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (default: 10) || IDLE_KICK_TIME: Time in seconds after which (6 more messages)
21:08 <armabot> MrBougo: last this many seconds, a player's death counts as a suicide. (default: 10000) || EXTRA_ROUND_TIME: Lenght of an extra pause at the beginning of the round (default: 0) || GAMEOBJECT_MOVE_TIMEOUT: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10) || GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (default: 10) || IDLE_KICK_TIME: Time in seconds after which (6 more messages)
21:08 <armabot> MrBougo: last this many seconds, a player's death counts as a suicide. (default: 10000) || EXTRA_ROUND_TIME: Lenght of an extra pause at the beginning of the round (default: 0) || GAMEOBJECT_MOVE_TIMEOUT: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10) || GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (default: 10) || IDLE_KICK_TIME: Time in seconds after which (6 more messages)
21:08 <MrBougo> eh
21:08 <xfroggy> epsy,  SHOW_TIME_24 0
21:09 <epsy> unknown cmd
21:09 <xfroggy> O.o
21:09 <xfroggy> SHOW_TIME_24                 Show the time in 24 hour format?
21:09 <xfroggy> what u umean unknwon O.o
21:10 <luke-jr> epsy: trunk I think
21:10 <epsy> i'm running a trunk a little before zones v2
21:10 <xfroggy> ;|
21:11 <epsy> except if lastet trunk client is able to connect to old servers
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21:20 <Goodygumdrops> ladle matches are best of 3, right?
21:21 <epsy> no best of 54
21:21 <Goodygumdrops> 54 isn't odd
21:21 <Goodygumdrops> that doesn't make sense 0.o
21:21 <epsy> xfroggy, d3?
21:23 <epsy> Goodygumdrops, [sarcasm]no best of 54[/sarcasm]
21:24 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@15.231-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
21:24 <xfroggy> epsy, (15:28:44) Message could not be sent because the user is offline:
21:24 <xfroggy> :|
21:25 <epsy> am i?
21:25  * xfroggy hates msn
21:25 <xfroggy> apparently
21:26 <Goodygumdrops> so you're saying they are actually best of 3?
21:31 <Hoax-> & final is bo5
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> god damn it!
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> I'm not playing
21:32  * Hoax- thinks it is anyway
21:32 <Goodygumdrops> oh well
21:35 <Goodygumdrops> is kod entering a team? XD
21:36 <Hoax-> Goodygumdrops, Just out of respect for other teams, I think we should play with our other crappy teams...since hagats would find it too easy
21:37 <Hoax-> even though the ladle isnt even sumo
21:37 <Lucifer_bed> z-man: zthreads
21:37 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, good call hoax
21:37 <Goodygumdrops> it's really not fair if we are together on a team
21:37 <Lucifer_bed> http://zthread.sourceforge.net/  <-- last release was in 05 however
21:38 <z-man> I think plain pthreads should be enough.
21:38 <Lucifer_bed> http://openthreads.sourceforge.net/  <--- also last release in 05
21:38 <Hoax-> :D
21:38 <Lucifer_bed> probably, I've done minimal cross-platform threads by hand, the apis aren't that different really
21:39 <guru3> i've never gotten threads to work
21:39 <z-man> There's that pthread compatibility library for Windows.
21:39 <guru3> ever
21:39 <z-man> zthreads looks like a sledgehammer that also adresses all those nasty concurrency pitfalls
21:40 <Lucifer_bed> zthreads is nice, I've used it before :)
21:40 <Lucifer_bed> I'm concerned about the last release being in 05, but if it still works, it doesn't matter a whole lot
21:43 <z-man> Yeah, the underling OS libraries are stable
21:43 <z-man> worst thing that can happen is that recent versions of GCC refuse to compile the code :)
21:43 <guru3> my mom changed her paypal password
21:43 <guru3> :<
21:43 <z-man> I'll give it a try, just because we don't need its full power right now does not mean it won't come in handy later.
21:44  * z-man had plans for multithreaded game simulation
21:44 <z-man> guru3: so you can't steal money from it any more?
21:44 <guru3> no i've been locked out our donations actually :<
21:44 <guru3> *out of
21:45 <z-man> oh
21:46 <guru3> i'll have to wait for my mom to reply to my e-mail asking about it
21:47 <guru3> soon as i got my own account i shoulda changed it
21:47 <guru3> foolish me
21:47 <luke-jr> guru3: like PayPal locked-out?
21:48 <guru3> no i just don't know the password anymore
21:48 <luke-jr> o ok
21:48 <guru3> we should do a donation drive sometime
21:48 <z-man> Lucifer_bed: is there any sample code?
21:48  * z-man is allergic to libraries with only doxygen-documentation
21:48 <guru3> considering in the last 2 years 2 people have donated of their own volition
21:48 <Lucifer_bed> hmm, there used to be, lemme dig real quick
21:48 <z-man> you have all these classes and functions and you just don't know where to start
21:49 <z-man> off for dinner, mmm, pizza
21:49 <guru3> enjoy
21:50 <Lucifer_bed> http://zthread.sourceforge.net/html/classZThread_1_1Thread.html
21:50 <Lucifer_bed> z-man: when you get back, I linked to the place you start for a simple thread
21:51 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_bed: ?
21:51 <wrtlprnft> (that's a wordless question about your ^^ line)
21:51 <Lucifer_bed> the line above my ping is the word to search for in the logs :)
21:52 <Lucifer_bed> ah, where I come from, ^^ means "look up"
21:53 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
21:53 <wrtlprnft> ^^ can also be a smiley
21:53 <wrtlprnft> and i didn't immediately recognize that word
21:54 <wrtlprnft> no match, though
21:54 <wrtlprnft> thanks anyways
21:54 <Lucifer_bed> ko
21:55 <Lucifer_bed> you might try breaking it down if you want and just searching for the ahss part, since it's so easy to typo I may have typoed it here
21:55 <Lucifer_bed> I didn't really think anyone would fall for that prank anyway, the shift-escape step is a dead giveaway
21:55 <Lucifer_bed> also, it requires the user still have talk bound to 's'
21:56 <wrtlprnft> :-(
21:58 <guru3> want to add that "cheat" as an easter egg in the next version?
21:58 <wrtlprnft> i don't know what it's supposed to do
21:58 <guru3> just pop something up
21:58 <guru3> or invert colors
21:58 <guru3> or something
21:59 <guru3> it's an easter egg- it's not really supposed to do anything
21:59 <Lucifer_bed> have it pop up a picture of a donkey and say "Oh what an ass you are!"
21:59 <wrtlprnft> x_X
21:59 <guru3> have the picture of the ass bouncing around the screen
21:59 <guru3> have lots of them
21:59 <guru3> then have them bounce off of each other
21:59 <Lucifer_bed> just have it add some text to the regular view saying "Cheat mode is on!  You are invincible!"
22:00 <wrtlprnft> btw, did anything happen with http://zhaymusic.com/?
22:00 <wrtlprnft> make the client believe that its cylce is invulnerable and disconnect in the background :D
22:01 <guru3> attach ais to the other cycles in the game if it's network
22:01 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: LOL
22:01 <wrtlprnft> that sounds complicated
22:01 <luke-jr> wow
22:01 <luke-jr> that would be an awesome prank
22:01 <wrtlprnft> [6] Blitz: AhSSSHITS
22:02 <wrtlprnft> wow, my grep turned something up
22:02 <Lucifer_bed> haha
22:02 <Lucifer_bed> doesn't look like it's what you were looking for, though :/
22:02 <Lucifer_bed> man, I thought we had a pretty credible prank going, too, at least for anyone who hasn't yet fallen for shift-escape for cheats
22:03 <wrtlprnft> well, my server isn't the only one out there
22:03 <wrtlprnft> maybe CTWF folks are more gullible?
22:03 <Lucifer_bed> true, but the logical way to test it is in local game anyway, then go to the server
22:04 <Lucifer_bed> to be honest, I still think the best easter egg for shift-escape is to popup a rendering of the manual
22:04 <Lucifer_bed> you know, so the joke's on the shift-escape pranksters instead of the noobs
22:05 <Lucifer_bed> put some boilerplate text at the top that says "Someone is trying to prank you.  Quickly read this manual here and the joke's on them!"
22:06 <guru3> lol
22:06 <wrtlprnft> nothing on ctwf, either
22:27 <z-man> Hey, I actually use shift-esc for its intended purpose.
22:29 <guru3> quitting fast
22:29 <guru3> it's handy
22:30 <z-man> grmpf, zthread install into userdefined prefix gives a broken zthread-config
22:30  * z-man shakes fist
22:30 <guru3> minor details
22:31 <Lucifer_bed> last time I used it, I embedded it into the project directly :/
22:35 <z-man> No worries, as guru3 says, minor details. Easily fixable, not a problem for default installs our source code users will have, and our binary distribution needs to be statically linked anyway.
22:37 <z-man> Why do people need twittr when you can just use IRC?
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22:41 <z-man> Isn't there a handy one-line macro for autoconf that checks all those libraries that have a <bla>-config script?
22:41 <Lucifer_bed> yes
22:41 <Lucifer_bed> pkg-config
22:41 <Lucifer_bed> something to do with that, but I don't remember what exactly
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22:42 <z-man> Most libraries we use are not in pkg-config, I'm afraid.
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22:43 <luke-jr> iksemel is ☺
22:44 <luke-jr> but it's still like 8 lines for the optional-ness
22:49 <epsy> wrtlprnft, do you have any idea how can i write a file as unicode and serve it to arma as ... what it reads
22:50 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:50 <wrtlprnft> arma reads latin-1
22:51 <epsy> how can i encode characters which aren't latin-1 so the clients will display it "correctly"
22:52 <luke-jr> you can't
22:53 <epsy> well, if, with my arma client put in my name, let's say, the ¦ character
22:53 <epsy> arma saves it and reads it fine
22:54 <luke-jr> nope
22:54 <luke-jr> maybe the | character
22:54 <luke-jr> which is Latin-1
22:55 <epsy> well i actually see the ¦×¦ tag correctly in my nick each time i start arma
22:55 <luke-jr> nowai
22:55 <epsy> yeswai
22:55 <luke-jr> #lastseen epsy
22:55 <armabot> luke-jr: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on |x|.Sumo.Server 10 minutes ago.
22:55 <luke-jr> wtf
22:56 <luke-jr> oh
22:56 <luke-jr> ¦ is Latin-1
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22:56 <epsy> really?
22:56 <epsy> then the problem must be the ×
22:59 <epsy> no..
23:00 <luke-jr> maybe it's the fact that you're saving it as utf-8
23:00 <epsy> probably
23:01 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ¦ is latin-1
23:01 <wrtlprnft> err, nvm
23:02 <wrtlprnft> epsy: use hexedit and the latin-1 table on wikipedia if you have no other way
23:03 <epsy> i can't switch encoding in vim?
23:03 <wrtlprnft> :set encoding?
23:03 <wrtlprnft> and :set fileencoding
23:03 <epsy> tried :set encoding = iso-8859-1
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23:04 <wrtlprnft> :h 'encoding' and :h 'fileencoding' are your firend, too
23:04 <wrtlprnft> no spaces
23:04 <epsy> ok
23:04 <wrtlprnft> and you can use latin-1
23:04 <wrtlprnft> well, there should be a space between set and encoding
23:04 <epsy> o works better
23:04 <wrtlprnft> :)
23:05 <z-man> Test run of threaded URL checking without any precautions
23:05 <z-man> what will happen?
23:05 <z-man> stay tuned!
23:05 <luke-jr> ☺
23:05  * guru3 is tuned
23:05 <wrtlprnft> is that a cliffhanger?
23:05 <guru3> and wants to know when to start writing the authentication site
23:05 <z-man> umm, linker failure.
23:05 <luke-jr> guru3: might as well start now?
23:06 <luke-jr> z-man: pfft, you're supposed to tell us after it links
23:06 <z-man> id did link
23:06 <guru3> well if we're not using <username>@domain then there's not much point
23:06 <luke-jr> guru3: maybe even get the forums to stop using cleartext? ☺
23:06 <z-man> the dynamic linking failed.
23:06 <z-man> luke-jr: bah, coward :)
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23:12 <Lucifer_bed> ah hell, I can host something on my ssl server for authentication if it matters that much
23:12 <Lucifer_bed> my cert isn't registered with any authority, however
23:12 <Lucifer_bed> z-man: I thought there was something, but apparently I was wrong
23:12 <guru3> can armagetron do ssl?
23:13 <Lucifer_bed> so you run the -config script to see if it's output is right, then run it again to put the compile flags in the right place and the link flags in the right place
23:13 <z-man> no.
23:13 <guru3> thought so
23:13 <Lucifer_bed> ?  I thought libxml2 could do it
23:13 <z-man> I don't know, I don't think so
23:13 <guru3> if it could
23:13 <z-man> the http part is called nano for a reason, I guess.
23:13 <guru3> we could set up our own authority for signing
23:13 <Lucifer_bed> well, my server's pretty well configured these days, I could make it both ssl and non-ssl and the app that uses it can worry about it :)
23:13 <z-man> Hmm, that's an idea, guru3
23:13 <guru3> and hand out certificates to auth servers
23:14 <luke-jr> guru3: and lose our master key
23:14 <z-man> every admin would have a copy
23:14 <z-man> printed out
23:14 <z-man> under his pillow
23:14 <luke-jr> …
23:14 <wrtlprnft> how long is the hex representation of such a key?
23:15 <luke-jr> 1 GB
23:15 <wrtlprnft> how many attempts would one need to type it back in? ;)
23:15 <luke-jr> 2403433.1
23:15 <guru3> i meant hand out signed certificates
23:15 <luke-jr> guru3: can you mail mine?
23:15 <z-man> not yet ;)
23:15 <luke-jr> you're a bit far to drive
23:15 <Lucifer_bed> I want my sent with usps-ssl
23:16 <guru3> surely signed certificates aren't that large
23:16 <guru3> how else do you do https
23:16 <guru3> or really
23:16 <guru3> i'm not quite sure what i'm talking about at this point
23:16 <z-man> ./armagetronad-dedicated: error while loading shared libraries: libZThread-2.3.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
23:16 <luke-jr> lol
23:16 <luke-jr> wtf is libZThread?
23:16 <guru3> but if it's a 1GB file i can get everyone it
23:16 <z-man> ls -l /usr/local/lib/libZThread-2.3.so.2
23:16 <z-man> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jan 20 23:13 /usr/local/lib/libZThread-2.3.so.2 -> libZThread-2.3.so.2.0.0
23:17 <luke-jr> z-man: -L /usr/local/lib
23:17 <z-man> and that last file exists, too
23:17 <z-man> haha
23:17 <Lucifer_bed> ldconfig ?
23:17 <Lucifer_bed> is /usr/local in your runtime search path?
23:17 <z-man> oh :)
23:17 <luke-jr> btw, I haven't slept any time recent, so if I need to go to bed, tell me
23:17  * Lucifer_bed notes it isn't by default in some distros
23:17 <z-man> ldconfig may be it
23:19 <Lucifer_bed> cat /etc/ld.so.conf
23:19 <z-man> Cool, it worked :)
23:20 <luke-jr> btw, I propose blocking ':' in the username for now, in case we decide to use URIs in the future
23:20 <z-man> Now, it just needs to be get secured.
23:20 <guru3> ssl may be possible
23:20 <z-man> We can block more characters.
23:20 <z-man> I don't mind blocking @ and !, too.
23:20 <luke-jr> can't block @
23:20 <z-man> can.
23:21 <luke-jr> that's already needed to identify the server
23:21 <Lucifer_bed> maybe (I'm the king of compromise!)
23:21 <epsy> Lucifer_bed, (possible)
23:21 <z-man> well, so it's a special role, and we can't have usernames with two @, right?
23:21 <luke-jr> z-man: by username I meant the full 'bla@server' field
23:22 <z-man> ah
23:22 <guru3> we can create a root certification authority certificate i believe
23:22  * wrtlprnft is not going to mention the crazy rules for e-mail addresses
23:22 <wrtlprnft> including those that allow an e-mail address to contain two @ signs
23:22 <epsy> um, if server names doesn't contains @s it's no problem is it?
23:22 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: btw, are the sites I host any faster today?
23:22 <guru3> http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/SSL-Certificates-HOWTO.html
23:23 <wrtlprnft> about 8 secs for the first request
23:23 <luke-jr> is that normal?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> something unmeasurably short for the second
23:23 <luke-jr> or improved?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> not really
23:23 <wrtlprnft> i'm telling you, your site is trying to reverse-dns me or something
23:23 <wrtlprnft> which fails more often than not for some reason
23:23 <luke-jr> if it was, it wouldn't delay the request
23:23 <Lucifer_bed> guru3: iirc, you're right.  The client has to know about it, of course, so it can validate it
23:24 <guru3> well the client to the server is pretty on its own
23:24 <Lucifer_bed> that's no problem for us, and conveniently lets us lock out the money-grubbing parasites that have the root authority servers for existing ssl websites
23:24 <guru3> but from servers to auth servers we can use https (hopefully)
23:24 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: well, i dunno, but i don't think it's my fault
23:24 <Lucifer_bed> we can on mine, anyway.  :)
23:24  * Lucifer_bed already has ssl setup, his svn repo uses it
23:25 <guru3> the hopefully was referring to the client
23:25  * Lucifer_bed is pointlessly excited about it, too.
23:25 <Lucifer_bed> ah, right
23:25 <guru3> don't think we could get at the forums db with ssl directly
23:25 <Lucifer_bed> why aren't you guys in bed, anyway?  Isn't it like the middle of the night over there?
23:25 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: don't suppose you'd mind trying to figure out why? :x
23:25 <wrtlprnft> 3:30
23:25 <wrtlprnft> err
23:25 <wrtlprnft> 23:30
23:25 <guru3> it's only 22:30
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23:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i have no clue how
23:26 <Lucifer_bed> speaking of people who should be in bed, hi madmax (hi there!)
23:26 <wrtlprnft> besides, i only get one chance every couple of hours
23:26 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: every 5 minutes, I'm betting
23:26 <wrtlprnft> why?
23:26 <luke-jr> that's the TTL on my DNS
23:26 <wrtlprnft> well, then it IS your DNS server that's slow
23:26 <wrtlprnft> and my router does cache DNS stuff
23:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: IIRC, you tried a direct query and it was snappy
23:27 <Lucifer_bed> guru3: I'd hate to make my server the single point of failure, but if the forums were modded to use the auth server, it shouldn't be a problem (for auth, at least)
23:27 <Lucifer_bed> we'd just need to copy that one table then
23:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: dig dashjr.org @
23:27 <guru3> i was thinking we could run several auth servers and support admins creating their own
23:27 <guru3> then just have a config variable for allowed auth servers
23:28  * luke-jr sees no reason to whitelist auth servers
23:28 <guru3> well... if you only want to use yours and have a private server
23:29  * Lucifer_bed doesn't care much either way, as long as it works in the end
23:29 <wrtlprnft> dig dashjr.org @
23:29 <wrtlprnft> that was slow
23:29 <wrtlprnft> … the first time i did it
23:29 <wrtlprnft> not the second
23:29 <luke-jr> uh
23:29 <Lucifer_bed> ;; Query time: 71 msec
23:29 <luke-jr> how is that even possible⁇
23:30 <wrtlprnft> dig dashjr.org @  0.00s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 5.200 total
23:30 <wrtlprnft> dig dashjr.org @  0.00s user 0.00s system 2% cpu 0.173 total
23:31 <Lucifer_bed> local caching server?
23:32 <luke-jr> the @IP forces it to go directly to my server
23:32 <Lucifer_bed> anyway, gotta run for now
23:32 <luke-jr> could be this 3% packet loss to your IP, wrtlprnft
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23:33 <luke-jr> no packet loss to guru3's IP…
23:33 <wrtlprnft> --- dashjr.org ping statistics ---
23:33 <wrtlprnft> 42 packets transmitted, 38 received, 9% packet loss, time 41006ms
23:33 <wrtlprnft> wth
23:34 <Lucifer_bed> yay, I have successfully memorized a 9 digit number :)
23:34 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: got mtr?
23:35 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:35 <guru3> Lucifer_bed: your phone number? ;)
23:35 <luke-jr> lol guru3
23:35 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: mtr is tracepath + ping
23:35 <GodTodd> that would be 10 ;)
23:35 <guru3> oh wait, that's 10 digits. still have to guess the last one?
23:35 <Lucifer_bed> heh
23:35 <Lucifer_bed> guru3: no, my bank account number
23:35 <guru3> xD
23:35 <luke-jr> :o
23:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, something *is* wrong with my connection
23:36 <wrtlprnft> --- google.com ping statistics ---
23:36 <wrtlprnft> 18 packets transmitted, 16 received, 11% packet loss, time 17000ms
23:36 <Lucifer_bed> it's our username on the bank's website, and when I wrote my accounting program I made it so it can automatically import from a downloaded .qfx file
23:37 <luke-jr> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993750 <-- longest # I have memorized
23:37 <Lucifer_bed> so now I'm checking the bank myself quite frequently, which resulted in memorizing the number
23:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: try mtr ☺
23:37  * Lucifer_bed considers tossing together a new release real quick since some important bugs have been fixed since the first release
23:37 <wrtlprnft> 123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789 ← i can memorize longer numbers
23:38 <luke-jr> lol wrtlprnft
23:38 <Lucifer_bed> e
23:38 <Lucifer_bed> beat you both
23:38 <luke-jr> that's just a symlink!
23:38 <wrtlprnft> A(G_64,G_64) ← biggest number i know ;)
23:39 <luke-jr> ∞
23:39 <wrtlprnft> that's not a real.
23:39 <Lucifer_bed> how many digits does it have?
23:39 <luke-jr> ∞
23:39 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_bed: you can hardly express that
23:40 <Lucifer_bed> isn't there a proof hanging around the shows that infinity has a finite number of digits?
23:40 <wrtlprnft> even if you'd express it as 10^10^10^10^10^… you'd run of atoms to write it
23:40 <wrtlprnft> *even if you expressed it
23:40 <wrtlprnft> omg
23:40 <wrtlprnft> [ebuild  N    ] net-analyzer/mtr-0.72  USE="gtk ipv6" 289 kB
23:40 <wrtlprnft> a gtk app?
23:41 <GodTodd> heh...no surprise...my packets start falling in omaha ;)
23:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: USE=-gtk
23:41 <luke-jr> duh
23:41 <Lucifer_bed> GodTodd: blame the indians
23:41 <Lucifer_bed> now it's their infrastructure that's fucked up, so they should fix it :)
23:41 <luke-jr> that's Cox for you
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer_bed, i'd much rather blame the fact that only hicks live in omaha
23:41 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a gtk app by default
23:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: uh, no
23:41 <wrtlprnft> --- cablesurf.de ping statistics ---
23:41 <wrtlprnft> 27 packets transmitted, 27 received, 0% packet loss, time 26001ms
23:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it's a gtk app if you have USE=gtk
23:42 <wrtlprnft> i don't have a general USE=gtk
23:42 <wrtlprnft> i'm not *that* stupid
23:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: packages don't have default USE flags
23:42 <luke-jr> defaults are global
23:42 <luke-jr> do you have your general USE=-gtk?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i can ping my provider's size without loss, but not google or yours
23:43 <wrtlprnft> i guess it's somewhere between there
23:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: no
23:43 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: a shark ate the cable
23:43 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: if you don't explicitly specify -gtk, Gentoo will turn it on by default when gtk libs are installed
23:44 <wrtlprnft> x_X
23:44 <Lucifer_bed> luke-jr: everybody knows sharks are harmless.  Obviously, a tv fell on it.
23:44 <Lucifer_bed> "28 children in the US were killed by falling television sets between 1990 and 1997.  That is four times as many people as were killed by great white shark attacks in the twentieth century.  Loosely speaking, this means that watching "Jaws" on TV is more dangerous than swimming in the Pacific."
23:44 <luke-jr> lol
23:45 <GodTodd> bullshit, Lucifer_bed...everyone knows if it's bad it's a terrorist plot
23:45 <wrtlprnft> te-7-2.car4.washington1.level3.net 13.0%
23:45 <Lucifer_bed> that was one of the problems on my last logic assignment :)
23:45 <luke-jr> ok, I seriously need to sleep
23:45 <GodTodd> or a bush thing
23:45 <GodTodd> same diff
23:45 <GodTodd> :D
23:45 <wrtlprnft> ve-027.edge01.muc.cablesurf.de 13.3%
23:45 <wrtlprnft> no wonder
23:45 <Lucifer_bed> well, I need to get cracking on this reading
23:45 <Lucifer_bed> but I need to cook first, bbl (probably at my other computer)
23:45 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: demand a credit
23:45 <luke-jr> ☺
23:45 <luke-jr> ttyl
23:46 <wrtlprnft> cya
23:46 <guru3> i'm going to rename authentication tronthentication
23:46 <Lucifer_bed> not armathentication?
23:46 <wrtlprnft> the interesting thing is that it passes ve-027.edge01.muc.cablesurf.de when going to cablesurf.de, too
23:46 <guru3> ohh that's even better
23:46 <wrtlprnft> but no loss there
23:47 <wrtlprnft> is the number the loss *at* that host or *bejond* that host?
23:48  * guru3 is excited
23:48 <guru3> tomorrow the mail comes
23:48  * guru3 ordered a lot of things off of ebay
23:49 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: anyways, most of my packets to you seem to get lost in washington
23:50 <wrtlprnft> anyways
23:50 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:50 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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00:36 <z-man> ZThread has one memory leak, otherwise it is really nice.
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00:41 <z-man> It's a one object leak only, so only annoying, not dangerous.
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01:33 <Hoax> so good im here twice
01:33 <Hoax> can you kick Hoax- pls
01:33 <P4> hoax: nickserv ghost it
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01:35 <Hoax-> thx
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02:15 <StickyNoob> heh im researching lag and the arma wiki is the 3rd page i get on google
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02:41 <z-man> StickyNoob: really? What was your search term?
02:41 <vinavil> z-man: the 8-poly cycle (http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1533) model doesn't work well in 0.2.8_alpha20080104. it shows black, so my lightcycle seems headless. it works well in 0.3
02:42 <z-man> Did you test it in
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02:43 <vinavil> i used it for long time in
02:43 <vinavil> no problem there
02:44 <vinavil> just the version you gave me for hickup problems
02:44 <vinavil> do you want i post a screenshot comparsion on the forums?
02:45 <z-man> That would be great
02:45 <z-man> especially becaue I'll forget about it otherwise.
02:45 <vinavil> ok
02:46 <vinavil> ah, another thing
02:46 <vinavil> where can i find info about compiling the latest trunk in mac osx?
02:48 <StickyNoob> z-man: cope with lag programming jump
02:48 <StickyNoob> bizzare collection of words i know
02:53 <z-man> vinavil: In the included README.subversion, I think.
02:54 <StickyNoob> i may have to look through the arma code to see how you guys cope with lag
02:54 <StickyNoob> whats the update rate of arma?
02:54 <z-man> Variable.
02:54 <vinavil> heh
02:55 <StickyNoob> heh that style could ruin my client side prediction
02:56 <vinavil> z-man: well, i was wrong. it worked in linux, but in mac osx it seems it doens't work in any version
02:57 <z-man> Ah, good, then I can blame OpenGL on the mac :)
02:57 <vinavil> z-man: in 0.3 i was confused by sharpness, i can see the back part of it, but not the snout
02:57 <vinavil> how can i solve then?
02:57 <z-man> Dunno, use another model?
02:58 <vinavil> sigh sob
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02:59 <vinavil> how can i draw one? are there particular guidelines to follow?
02:59 <z-man> Yeah, but they're secret :)
03:00  * z-man is sleepy and not much help
03:00 <vinavil> secret? that's good. so, can you draw it for me? :)
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03:05 <ct|kyle> LIES
03:06  * vinavil cries
03:06 <ct|kyle> i bet z-man can pwn drawing using openHL
03:06 <ct|kyle> openGL*
03:08 <vinavil> z-man: prove us you cannot, draw a lightcycle model. and if you are right you will only able to draw a 8-poly model. :D
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04:25 <xfroggy> #m Durka u jinxed packers! i blame it on u! :(
04:25 <armabot> xfroggy: The operation succeeded.
04:32 <vinavil> where can i find this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbTfCR7vYe0) sounds moviepack?
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09:09 <luke-jr> z-man: dashjr.org now auths me with sha1 or md5
09:10 <luke-jr> md5 tolerates both "$password\0" and "$password"
09:10 <z-man> nice.
09:12 <luke-jr> code posted
09:12 <luke-jr> btw, be sure to use === sometimes ☺
09:16 <luke-jr> actually, we should be using some case insensitive match there
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09:36 <luke-jr> z-man: we already have Unicode support in the pipeline
09:37 <z-man> Doesn't change the fact that your character is on on my keyboards.
09:38 <luke-jr> neither are other characters that will be in names shortly
09:38 <luke-jr> in fact, the ® is even mapped by xkb IIRC
09:38 <luke-jr> Meta-R?
09:38 <z-man> Not in usernames.
09:38 <z-man> Nope, not for me.
09:39 <luke-jr> enable it? :þ
09:39 <guru3> if the authentication server does store things like color, wouldn't the client have to authenticate directly to download that information and update its settings, and then the server have to authenticate again?
09:39 <luke-jr> guru3: that would only be XMPP-based
09:39 <luke-jr> which is different from the HTTP method
09:39 <z-man> guru3: I'm trying not to think about that stuff yet.
09:40 <guru3> ok
09:40 <luke-jr> hm
09:40 <guru3> what i really had been thinking about was things like won_rounds, won_matches, etc
09:40 <z-man> luke-jr: when I complain because something is not on my keyboard/system, I usually do so because it means it won't be on a lot of other peoples' keyboards/systems.
09:40 <luke-jr> z-man: seeing as name mangling already hit a problem with the space-removal, perhaps I'm addressing it wrong
09:41 <luke-jr> new approach:
09:41 <guru3> also what about differentiating between user names and login names?
09:41 <luke-jr> different mangled names are unavoidable; how do I live with it?
09:41 <guru3> be able to login as Tank Program@forums.armagetronad.net but have my name be whatever I want?
09:41 <guru3> (then something like /players show who is authenticated as who)
09:41 <luke-jr> guru3: AFAIK, that's already the plan
09:41 <luke-jr> display vs username
09:42 <z-man> yes, screen name and user name will be different.
09:42 <guru3> ok, but so now the issue is a way to tell between authenticated people and non authenticated for the logs?
09:42 <z-man> non-authenticated people have nothing after the @ :)
09:43 <guru3> or you can pad out names to 16 characters then have the @
09:43 <guru3> so in logs it's always at least 17 characters
09:43 <guru3> if it's > then you know they're authenticated
09:43 <guru3> and then it doesn't matter if there's @ in the name or not
09:43 <z-man> Umm, if I want to be z@short.com?
09:44 <guru3> that's fine
09:44 <luke-jr> Edit: new approach: the fact that mangling will change is unavoidable
09:44 <luke-jr>  Can we get ladderlog to record the unmangled names when someone logins in or renames?
09:44 <guru3> it just would show z               @short.com in logs
09:44 <z-man> looks wrong to me, I don't know.
09:44 <luke-jr> guru3: mangling may result in > 16 char mangled names in the future
09:44 <luke-jr> for example, a 16 character Japanese display name
09:44 <luke-jr> would get mangled to 32+
09:45 <guru3> well. that would be an issue
09:45 <luke-jr> also, space is our delimiter atm :þ
09:45 <guru3> if you're doing regexp matching though
09:45 <luke-jr> space is also the only character we don't remap in Latin-1 afaik
09:45 <luke-jr> ACTUALLY NO
09:45 <luke-jr> we have the letter O for abuse
09:45  * luke-jr ponders
09:46 <luke-jr> o:[method:]user@server ?
09:46 <luke-jr> or is it the number 0?
09:47 <guru3> i think you're going to confuse a lot of people with method
09:47 <luke-jr> the [] means method is optional
09:47 <guru3> i know
09:47 <luke-jr> so 0:luke@dashjr.org
09:47 <luke-jr> and maybe in the future 0:xmpp:luke@dashjr.org
09:47 <luke-jr> assuming we need to use it like that, which is not likely
09:50 <guru3> for authentication.armagetronad.net we can authenticate from the forums and the wiki
09:50 <luke-jr> I think a-z_+.1-9- is logical for the allowed characters in username/server?
09:50 <luke-jr> guru3: forums are impossible IIRC?
09:50 <guru3> only if you want https
09:50 <luke-jr> since phpBB only stores an unusable hash
09:51 <luke-jr> why do we need https? I never understood that part ☹
09:51 <guru3> i suppose we don't really
09:51 <luke-jr> seeing as the connection is untrusted anyway, what does it matter if yet another untrusted third party sniffs it?
09:52 <guru3> well if you eventually secure between the server and client
09:54 <luke-jr> iksemel supports TLS, so XMPP support for encryption is automatic
10:32 <luke-jr> guru3: The requested URL /hashuser.php was not found on this server.
10:32 <guru3> might be userhash
10:32 <guru3> hashauth even
10:32 <luke-jr> guru3: also, nobody wants to type authentication.armagetronad.net ☺
10:32 <luke-jr> when we do get to that point, I suggest p.armagetronad.net or such
10:33 <luke-jr> guru3: how did you get around the fact that phpBB does not store the passwords?
10:33 <guru3> it stores the md5s
10:34 <luke-jr> it stores the md5(password+'\0')?
10:34 <guru3> no
10:34 <luke-jr> Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/.porgy/guru3/authentication.armagetronad.net/hashauth.php on line 17
10:34 <luke-jr> guru3: md5(password) is not used at all currently
10:35 <guru3> i know
10:35 <guru3> one thing at a time though
10:36 <luke-jr> I just don't see how you have it working :o
10:36 <guru3> well it works with things without \-
10:36 <luke-jr> heh, I just found an exploit to all this :\
10:36 <guru3> \0
10:36 <luke-jr> should I keep it secret or tell you all? XD
10:38 <guru3> ><
10:38 <guru3> i can mod the forums
10:38 <luke-jr> posted in the dev forum
10:38 <guru3> to record password + \0 in another row
10:38 <guru3> on successful login
10:38 <luke-jr> oooh
10:38 <luke-jr> good idea
10:39 <luke-jr> record SHA1 too, while you're at it ☺
10:39 <luke-jr> actually
10:39 <luke-jr> would be nice if I could login with luke@dashjr.org eventually ;)
10:39 <luke-jr> have it use the same auth system as Arma
10:40 <guru3> phpbb?
10:40 <luke-jr> ?
10:40 <luke-jr> yeah, have the forums and wiki use our distributed auth ☺
10:40 <guru3> mmm
10:40 <guru3> i suppose it might be possible
10:40 <guru3> would certainly screw with spammers
10:40 <luke-jr> IIRC, both support non-internal auth backends
10:41 <guru3> nothing like tweaking phpbb from vi
10:43 <luke-jr> wee
10:43  * guru3 mutters darkly about phpbb's sql thingy
10:44 <luke-jr> so what do you think of my exploit?
10:44 <z-man> Posted it :)
10:44 <z-man> guru3: tell us when we can log in to get our new and shiny md5 !
10:44 <luke-jr> ah, z-man debunked it
10:45 <guru3> a mysql tinytext field is 255 characters right?
10:45  * luke-jr claps for z-man being a genius and predicting today from X years ago
10:46 <guru3> how many characters in sha1 luke-jr ?
10:46 <luke-jr> binary or hex printed?
10:46 <guru3> hex printed
10:46 <guru3> like how echo sha1() would show in php
10:47 <luke-jr> luke-jr@yokochan ~ $ php <<<"<?=sha1('');" | wc -c
10:47 <luke-jr> 40
10:49 <luke-jr> z-man: will I be getting PLAYER_RENAMED luke-jr 0:luke@dashjr.org on login?
10:49 <z-man> I think so, yes.
10:50 <guru3> what i need to store in the database
10:50 <z-man> I don't know about this 0: business yet
10:50 <guru3> is md5($password.pack('H*','00')); ?
10:50 <luke-jr> guru3: md5($password.@pack('H*','00')) and sha1($password)
10:50 <luke-jr> z-man: doesn't it solve both our concerns?
10:50 <z-man> umm, you guys know you can replace the pack bit by . char(0) ?
10:51 <guru3> ok
10:51 <luke-jr> z-man: you wrote it first!
10:51 <z-man> Yeah :)
10:51 <z-man> But if you copy code from a n00b, what does that make you?
10:51 <luke-jr> chr(0) *
10:51 <luke-jr> z-man: if I don't know the reason, I assume it's sound ☺
10:51 <luke-jr> for example, those $salt = @$_GET['salt'] . '';
10:52 <luke-jr> $salt = $_GET['salt'] seems fine to me
10:52  * z-man wrote "first php script evar, woot!" in the first post
10:52 <luke-jr>     checkPass($f("$realPassword\0"));
10:52 <luke-jr> so there
10:53 <z-man> that works?
10:53 <luke-jr> yes
10:53 <guru3> gee
10:53 <guru3> i hope i just didn't kill the forums
10:53 <guru3> :D
10:53 <luke-jr> :o
10:53 <luke-jr> guru3: you did backup, right?
10:53 <luke-jr> s/did/do
10:53 <guru3> ba... what? ;)
10:53 <guru3> nah i'm not making such major changes as that
10:54 <luke-jr> well, I mean, you do backup on a regular basis? ☺
10:54 <guru3> semi-regular
10:54 <guru3> a full backup with attachments about once every year or two
10:54 <luke-jr> z-man: btw, I propose snipping the / off after 'md5'
10:54 <guru3> a backup of the database every couple months
10:54 <luke-jr> in the URI
10:54 <luke-jr> eg, http://host/armaauth/md5?…
10:54 <z-man> sure.
10:54 <luke-jr> should work whether it's a directory or not
10:55 <luke-jr> Apache will map md5 to md5.php I think
10:56 <guru3> z-man: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: char() in /home/.porgy/guru3/forums.armagetronad.net/login.php on line 80
10:56 <luke-jr> or can be confiugred to anyhow
10:56 <guru3> all hail z-man for breaking the forums
10:56 <luke-jr> guru3:     checkPass($f("$realPassword\0"));
10:56 <z-man> what did I say about following coding examples from a n00b?
10:56 <guru3> luke-jr: i didn't directly copy and paste your functions
10:56 <luke-jr> guru3: "$password\0"
10:56 <luke-jr> \0 is the key
10:56 <z-man> it would have been .chr(0), now I remember :)
10:57 <luke-jr> let's rewrite Arma in Perl!
10:57 <guru3> well
10:57 <guru3> that didn't work
10:57 <guru3> -_-
10:57  * luke-jr runs for cover
10:57 <luke-jr> guru3: ?
10:57 <guru3> it didn't update the table like i wanted
10:58 <z-man> My PHP knowledge can be summed up like this:
10:58 <z-man> it's C syntax mixed with BASIC variables.
10:58 <z-man> And tons of useful functions :)
10:58 <luke-jr> guru3: user_md5?
10:59 <luke-jr> guru3: pastebin the code so I can help? ☺
10:59 <guru3> bah
10:59 <guru3> still didn't work
11:00 <luke-jr> guru3: pastebin the code so I can help? ☺
11:00 <guru3> now... i'm not so sure
11:00 <guru3> if may have worked
11:00 <guru3> and mysql might have just been laggy
11:00 <luke-jr> lol
11:00 <guru3> *it
11:00 <guru3> want to logout and log back in?
11:01 <luke-jr> done
11:01 <guru3> it worked
11:02 <guru3> now to alter authentication. some to support it\
11:02 <luke-jr> did it?
11:02 <guru3> yes
11:02 <luke-jr> ok
11:02 <guru3> 82f7509a631a758b3ce862b1ef1ec4d3882d16c8
11:02 <guru3> the sha1 of the sha1 of your password
11:03 <luke-jr> nope
11:03 <luke-jr> ☹
11:03 <luke-jr> or
11:03 <luke-jr> maybe ☺
11:03  * luke-jr is doing it wrong
11:03 <guru3> sha1(sha1('yourpass goes here'));
11:03 <luke-jr> that's what I did
11:03 <luke-jr> and it's wrong
11:04 <luke-jr> need to pack the inside sha1
11:04 <guru3> i didn't pack it
11:04 <z-man> or pass it a "binary" flag?
11:04 <z-man> md5 has one.
11:04 <luke-jr> true
11:04 <guru3> $sha1sql = "UPDATE " . USERS_TABLE . " SET user_sha1 = '".sha1($password)."' WHERE username = '" . str_replace("\\'", "''", $username) . "'";
11:04 <guru3> that's what phpbb does
11:04 <luke-jr> that's fine
11:05 <guru3> what i did was select user_sha1
11:05 <luke-jr> you'll just need to pack it before using it in auth
11:05 <guru3> then copy and pasted it
11:05 <guru3> into sha1
11:05 <guru3> and then pasted the output here
11:05 <luke-jr> sha1(pack('H*', $user_sha1))
11:05 <guru3> that's not what i did for here though
11:05 <luke-jr> plus the salt
11:05 <luke-jr> ok
11:05 <luke-jr> then it's right
11:05 <guru3> yes
11:05 <guru3> it is
11:06 <luke-jr> :
11:06 <guru3> stupid doing php in vi
11:08 <guru3> even worse
11:08 <guru3> a vi without syntax highlighting
11:09 <luke-jr> KWrite works well
11:09 <guru3> i'm coding directly on the webhost
11:09 <z-man> [0] Fetching authentication URL http://authentication.armagetronad.net/hashauth.php?user=z-man&salt=a97bc10d21997184034e7f5fba3bd41d&hash=eb427ae04c7cd0700c96686c0ef28ba9
11:09 <z-man> [0] 2
11:09 <z-man> [0] Answer: <br />
11:09 <z-man> <b>Warning</b>:  mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in[0]
11:09 <z-man> FIX IT!
11:09 <guru3> try
11:09 <guru3> again
11:09 <z-man> :
11:09 <luke-jr> PASSWORD_FAIL
11:10 <guru3> try now
11:10 <guru3> the sha1 btw does the pack00 as well
11:10 <z-man> Fatal error: Function name must be a string in /home/.porgy/guru3/authentication.armagetronad.net/hashauth.php on line 22
11:10 <guru3> i'm a victim of typos\
11:10 <luke-jr> guru3: wtf pack00?
11:10 <guru3> uhhh never mind
11:11 <z-man> PASSWORD_OK
11:11 <z-man> yay!
11:11 <guru3> banzai
11:11 <luke-jr> only \0 md5 works for me now
11:11 <guru3> what you want everything?
11:11 <luke-jr> lol
11:11 <guru3> i'm trying to make this thing generic
11:11 <guru3> so that i can hook it up to many databases
11:12 <luke-jr> /armaauth/md5 should work for both md5\0 and md5
11:12 <guru3> this is slowly going out the window
11:12 <luke-jr> /armaauth/sha1 should work for sha1
11:12 <guru3> can we not have md50 and md5? :>
11:12 <luke-jr> md5n?
11:12 <luke-jr> ask z-man ☺
11:12 <z-man> I'd also suggest to keep the old legacy \0 md5 auth separate.
11:13 <luke-jr> yay, good
11:13 <z-man> I don't care about the name :)
11:13 <guru3> well right now there's just legacy
11:13 <guru3> and then there's sha1
11:13 <luke-jr> so md5, md5n, and sha1 are our existing methods?
11:13 <guru3> no, there's broken md5 and sha1
11:13 <z-man> heh
11:13 <guru3> on autehntication.
11:13 <luke-jr> ?
11:13 <z-man> we shoulc call it bmd5
11:13 <luke-jr> ok
11:13 <guru3> authentication.armagetronad.net supports two methods right now
11:14 <luke-jr> bmd5 then
11:14 <luke-jr> my PHP code already works with either XD
11:14 <guru3> wahhhh i don't want to rewrite large chunks of phpbb so that this works properly
11:14 <guru3> you have a very convienient lack of database luke-jr ;)
11:14 <luke-jr> guru3: I offered to help ;)
11:14 <guru3> rewrite phpbb? :>
11:14 <luke-jr> pastebin the code, this time for the hashauth
11:15 <z-man> and the true md5 should support arbitrary pre-and postfix on the password (in the server/client code, the auth server picks them)
11:15 <luke-jr> are we going to upgrade to phpBB3 any time soon?
11:15 <guru3> i was thinking about it
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11:15 <guru3> but there's nothing for mod_heirarchy last i looked
11:15 <luke-jr> what's that?
11:15 <guru3> the thing that lets us have sub forums
11:15 <z-man> subforums?
11:15 <luke-jr> subforums are builtin now
11:15 <guru3> not on what we're using
11:15 <guru3> and you can't do a direct upgrade
11:15 <luke-jr> o
11:15 <guru3> because of the mod
11:16 <guru3> non standard db
11:16 <luke-jr> hm
11:16 <guru3> and the mod auther hasn't written and update script yet either
11:16 <guru3> so it'd be hours of manually dissasembling the subforums
11:16 <guru3> into flat forums
11:16 <guru3> then upgrading, hoping it works, and reassembling
11:16 <luke-jr> guru3: or comparing the schemas and writing a SQL script to upgrade it :þ
11:17 <guru3> :S
11:17 <guru3> our database... isn't quite standard anymore either
11:18 <luke-jr> I'm aware
11:18 <luke-jr> anyway, bmd5 is the only method that really matters at the moment
11:21 <guru3> i need a rewrite rule that's only for /hashauth/*
11:22 <luke-jr> you mean /armaauth/*
11:22 <guru3> no
11:22 <guru3> hashauth would be good
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11:23 <luke-jr> are we not planning to use HTTP for discovery of supported methods in the future?
11:23 <guru3> we are?
11:23 <luke-jr> last I checked, but we don't need to
11:24 <luke-jr> I'm fine with autodetection and/or NAPTR
11:24 <luke-jr> RewriteRule ^/?hashauth/(.*?)/?$ hashauth.php?method=$1&%{QUERY_STRING}
11:25 <guru3> thanks
11:27 <luke-jr> z-man: I think now is a good time to commit branches/0.2.8-auth, if you don't mind ☺
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11:29 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7558 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/: branched authentication for collective work on it.
11:30 <guru3> right
11:30 <guru3> i've posted the spec of authentication. now
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7559 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/ (16 files in 6 dirs): Commited patch 0.4, basically.
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11:34 <luke-jr> GAAAH
11:35 <luke-jr> brb, might as well reboot to get my second monitor back
11:41 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7560 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/nKrawallPrivate.cpp: Adapted to Tank's forum based auth script. Login with "/login authentication.armagetronad.net" now :)
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11:41 <guru3> woot
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11:50 <luke-jr> ok, that worked
11:50 <luke-jr> #last --nolimit
11:50 <armabot> luke-jr: [11:54:43] <luke-jr> ok, that worked, [11:45:55] <guru3> woot, [11:39:56] <luke-jr> brb, might as well reboot to get my second monitor back, [11:38:53] <luke-jr> GAAAH, [11:34:30] <guru3> i've posted the spec of authentication. now, [11:34:25] <guru3> right, [11:31:22] <luke-jr> z-man: I think now is a good time to commit branches/0.2.8-auth, if you don't mind ☺, [11:29:21] <guru3> thanks, (50 more messages)
11:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7561 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/nKrawall.cpp: Removed extra semicolon.
11:55 <luke-jr> z-man: is it going by 'krawall'?
11:57 <zmanuel> I'm keeping old names to faciliate merging.
11:57 <zmanuel> Once its' fully merged, we should pick a new name.
11:58 <guru3> armathentication
11:58 <zmanuel> Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to post, especially for luke-jr: NO MERGING TO OR FROM THE -auth BRANCH.
11:58 <zmanuel> absolutely none.
11:58 <guru3> (as lucier suggested yesterday)
11:58 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7562 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561.ebuild: auth USE flag
11:58 <luke-jr> …
11:59 <luke-jr> I kill -9'd that commit
11:59 <luke-jr> zmanuel: TO?
11:59 <luke-jr> ever?
11:59 <zmanuel> Well, once it is finished, it will be merged somewhere, obviously.
12:00 <zmanuel> But until them, all bugfix merges to it would make merging it only more difficult.
12:00  * luke-jr was expecting 0.2.8-auth to remain a fork with bugfixes merged into it
12:00 <zmanuel> No, that does not make too much sense.
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12:02 <zmanuel> We will extract a patch that combines all the changes to the branch once it is finished.
12:02 <zmanuel> Then users are free to apply it or not.
12:02 <zmanuel> Maybe we'll apply it ourselves to 0.2.8, we'll see about that. The patch doesn't do all that much if --enable-krawallserver is not set.
12:03 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7563 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/ (2 files in 2 dirs): auth USE flag part 2
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12:05 <zmanuel> Hmm, looks like we'll need to supply a gcc-4.x compatibility patch to zthread, or make -fpermissive a default.
12:05 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
12:05  * z-man was afraid that would happen
12:05 <luke-jr> almost feels like it should be 0.2.9 or something
12:05 <luke-jr> if it's not already gcc-4.x compatible, that implies it's not maintained
12:05 <luke-jr> which would imply we need to maintain it ourselves :x
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12:06 <z-man> Yeah, no big deal.  The code is quite clean, so keeping it up to date with compiler compatibility fixes should be easy.
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12:10 <z-man> The fixes I had to do were all of the (memberfunction) -> (this->memberfunction) kind you have to do in templated methods.
12:10 <z-man> Bugfarm Elimination Sumo has been updated, you can now log in.
12:11 <z-man> Not that it gives you any advantage :)
12:12 <guru3> does /players show if you're logged in or not?
12:14 <luke-jr> z-man: cancel auth => kick
12:14 <luke-jr> and authentication failed
12:15 <z-man> Not kick.
12:15 <luke-jr> it does
12:15 <z-man> The client leaves on its own devices.
12:15 <luke-jr> o
12:15 <luke-jr> dumb client
12:15 <z-man> Yes :)
12:15  * luke-jr calls that a bug
12:15  * z-man agrees.
12:15 <z-man> guru3: not currently.
12:16 <luke-jr> z-man: I don't see any auth request
12:16 <luke-jr> something in your logs?
12:17 <z-man> No, nothing, what did you do?
12:17 <luke-jr> tried to login
12:17 <z-man> how?
12:17 <luke-jr> /login
12:17 <z-man> try /login authentication.armagetronad.net
12:17 <z-man> plain /login is looking for local accounts.
12:18 <luke-jr> is it not parsing user@server?
12:18 <luke-jr> i c
12:18 <z-man> No
12:18 <z-man> most user@server names would not fit into the player names.
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12:29 <wrtlprnft> wtf
12:29 <wrtlprnft> my client just decided to quit,
12:30 <wrtlprnft> i need to be doing other stuff, anyways
12:30 <spidey> lol
12:30 <luke-jr> hm
12:30 <spidey> i don't get this
12:30 <luke-jr> z-man: I'm seeing double auth GETs
12:31 <wrtlprnft> by the way, am i right that arma's authentication is now more secure than forums.aa.net's? ;)
12:31 <luke-jr> z-man: also, should we consider using standard HTTP response codes? ☺
12:31 <z-man> wrtlprnft: yes :)
12:31 <spidey> $_SERVER[PHP_SELF] doesn't work the way i want it to unless i jump out of php then call it
12:31 <luke-jr> spidey: __FILE__
12:32 <spidey> will that work with print '';
12:32 <spidey> ?
12:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah
12:32 <spidey> the way i'm wanting it to*
12:32 <wrtlprnft> print 'hi ' . __FILE__ . ' ih'; should work, at least
12:32 <spidey> it's a action=""
12:32 <spidey> form
12:32 <z-man> luke-jr: there are standard codes? how would we read them?
12:32 <spidey> posting to the same page = why i needed it
12:32 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Loor/race/racetowz-1.02.aamap.xml: Resource by Loor
12:33 <wrtlprnft> err
12:33 <luke-jr> z-man: pretty sure the resource fetcher checks for 404
12:33 <luke-jr> z-man: 401 = Unauthorized
12:33 <luke-jr> 200 = OK
12:33 <wrtlprnft> <form action="?" metod="post">…</form>?
12:33 <z-man> Can the php script return it?
12:33 <luke-jr> however, if we use 401, the standard says we should also use HTTP's authentication headers
12:33 <luke-jr> yes
12:33 <luke-jr> header('Status: 401 Unauthorized'); IIRC
12:34 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i've tried about 4 different ways, i need $_SERVER[PHP_SELF] to be the action
12:34 <spidey> but, when i use it in a print '' it doesn't give the same results
12:34 <z-man> can't see why we should not use it. Standards a good.
12:34 <wrtlprnft> first of all i suggest you use $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']
12:34 <luke-jr> not sure if nanohttp can send HTTP auth tho
12:34 <wrtlprnft> but it's a normal string
12:35 <spidey> tried it
12:35 <spidey> and "PHP_SELF"
12:35 <spidey> with escapes of course
12:35 <wrtlprnft> print('<form action="' . urlencode($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']) . '" method="post">');
12:35 <spidey> mm
12:35 <spidey> didn't try that one
12:37 <spidey> lol
12:37 <spidey> that returns the same as the others with one exception
12:37 <spidey> the \ = %2
12:37 <wrtlprnft> then leave out the urlencode
12:37 <wrtlprnft> that was a stupid idea
12:37 <spidey> i've tried it that way already
12:37 <wrtlprnft> and get rid of the backslashes!
12:38 <spidey> it returns /cms/index.php
12:38 <wrtlprnft> well, what exactly do you need
12:38 <spidey> ok
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12:39 <wrtlprnft> you might try $_SERVER['SCRIPT_URI'], too
12:39 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/qs.php
12:39 <spidey> i'm wanting the form to post to the script, which is on the same page
12:39 <spidey> like it does when you use it like this
12:39 <spidey> ?><form action="<? $_SERVER["PHP_SELF"] ?>" /><?
12:40 <spidey> but it has a different affect when i try and use it in a print
12:40 <wrtlprnft> ?!
12:40 <spidey> ok
12:40 <spidey> http://wtfhax.net/cms/?page=shoutbox
12:41 <spidey> ctrl+f shoutbox
12:41 <spidey> oh wait
12:41 <spidey> forgot to change it
12:41 <spidey> ok
12:41 <spidey> when i use it in a print
12:41 <spidey> the action becomes /cms/index.php
12:42 <spidey> when i escape from php to html, it works
12:42 <wrtlprnft> stupid special handling of stuff
12:42 <wrtlprnft> try SCRIPT_URI, maybe that's better
12:42 <spidey> k
12:43 <spidey> nope
12:43 <wrtlprnft> doesn't even exist
12:43 <spidey> well
12:43 <wrtlprnft> then do print_r($_SERVER) somewhere
12:43 <spidey> that's how it looks when i use it like this
12:43 <wrtlprnft> and look for the thing that suits you best
12:44 <spidey> ?><form action="<? $_SERVER["PHP_SELF"] ?>" /><?
12:49 <spidey> oh i think i know what it is
12:49 <spidey> :|
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13:52 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7569 /tools/http-auth-server/trunk/.htaccess: new rewriterule
13:59 <spidey> luke-jr, sux
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14:04 <luke-jr> :o
14:05 <spidey> :O
14:05 <spidey> i sitll haven't been to sleep
14:05 <luke-jr> spidey: nut
14:06 <spidey> been playing my local civ game and working on meh site
14:06 <luke-jr> lol
14:08 <spidey> armabot, weather 38256
14:08 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 12.6°F (7:12 AM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036.5 hPa (Steady).
14:08 <spidey> oh ffs
14:08 <luke-jr> turn the heat on spidey
14:08 <spidey> only got 2 electric heaters and a propane heater
14:09 <luke-jr> that's messed up
14:09 <spidey> the propane heater runs off one of those huge tanks outside
14:09 <luke-jr> your house doesn't have heat?
14:09 <spidey> there's a heater in the hall
14:09 <spidey> one of the electric heaters are in the bathroom because the insulation in this house sucks
14:10 <spidey> then there's a electric foot heater i have my feet on atm =p
14:10 <spidey> it has "limited" heat
14:10 <spidey> thinking about moving back upstairs, it's always warm up there xD
14:15 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7570 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561.ebuild: configure works a bit different than I expected
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14:39 <luke-jr> spidey is bragging about how he's legally insane
14:39 <luke-jr> wtf
14:45 <GodTodd__> he just so much wants to be like you
14:45 -!- GodTodd__ is now known as GodTodd
14:46 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you should learn the difference between first and second person someday
14:46 <GodTodd> i know it better than you ever will :)
15:12 <worm> hmmm it's been awhile
15:12 <luke-jr> wtf is worm
15:14 <luke-jr> worm: wtf are you? :þ
15:15 <luke-jr> #rating worms3r
15:15 <luke-jr> worm: that you?
15:15 <worm> stempo a.k.a. Genki
15:15 <armabot> luke-jr: worms3r is 117th with a rating of 1611-1682 (from 1612-1681)
15:15 <luke-jr> o
15:15 <P4> Genki oO
15:15 <worm> P4 :D
15:15 <luke-jr> #rating genki
15:15 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'genki'!
15:15 <worm> lol
15:15 <luke-jr> #aka worms3r
15:15 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿592 worms3r
15:16 <luke-jr> meh
15:16 <worm> I haven't played tron in about a yea
15:16 <worm> year
15:16 <luke-jr> i c
15:16 <luke-jr> we have authentication now… sortof
15:18 <worm> not really
15:18 <worm> P4 you still in CT?
15:20 <luke-jr> #rating ctxp4
15:20 <armabot> luke-jr: ctxp4 is 356th with a rating of 1555-1607 (from 1556-1606)
15:23 <P4> yea
15:23 <P4> CT ftw ;)
15:24 <P4> we got quite new server now ;)
15:24 <P4> #si flower
15:24 <armabot> P4: Flower Power Sumo Assault: Players (9/12): -=zozo||, Betu, Bloody_Jin, coconut, emphasis, LAGGER, puSsy°, TrT~GöKu, ~*Omega*~
15:24 <luke-jr> #rating2 ctxp4 ed
15:24 <armabot> luke-jr: ctxp4 is 94th with a rating of 1441-1563 (from 1442-1562) on ed
15:24 <P4> what's ed?
15:24 <luke-jr> that server
15:24 <P4> ed's flower? lol! :D
15:24 <P4> anyway i suck there
15:24 <P4> im good only in single player challange :)
15:25 <luke-jr> :þ
15:25 <P4> http://crazy-tronners.com/ladders_solo_sumo.php :D
15:27 <luke-jr> ladder sucks
15:27 <luke-jr> tell ed to put it on ratings :þ
15:27 <P4> tell it yourself :P he's here :)
15:27 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic:
15:28 <P4> and i like our ladders
15:28 <worm> flower power sumo....
15:28 <worm> okies off to play some tron xD
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15:34 <worm> MR B!
15:35 <luke-jr> #rating2 phoen!x aos_ctf
15:35 <armabot> luke-jr: phoen!x is 5th with a rating of 1672-2285 on aos_ctf
15:35 <MrBougo> WORM WTF
15:35 <worm> wow
15:35 <MrBougo> who is worm?
15:35 <luke-jr> #rating phoen!x
15:35 <armabot> luke-jr: phoen!x is 1613th with a rating of 1428-1881
15:36 <luke-jr> wow
15:36 <luke-jr> must be pretty good at ctf >_<
15:36 <MrBougo> :o
15:36 <worm> :O
15:36 <luke-jr> #rating2 phoen!x ww_ctf
15:36 <armabot> luke-jr: phoen!x is 1387th with a rating of 1099-1598 on ww_ctf
15:36 <luke-jr> or he just got lucky on AOS
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15:53 <luke-jr> #rating madmax
15:53 <armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 170th with a rating of 1596-1641 (from 1590-1633)
15:55 <guru3> luke-jr: [env=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}] <-- what's that do?
15:58 <luke-jr> guru3: gives us access to the Authorization header
15:59 <guru3> i put that line in .htaccess and it gives a 500
15:59 <luke-jr> hmm, I have a real armaauth dir, so I didn't test it as a root dir
15:59 <luke-jr> maybe the regex is buggy
15:59  * luke-jr tests
15:59 <guru3> everything else i could port just fine
15:59 <guru3> except for that line -_-
16:00 <luke-jr> guru3: works for me :\
16:01 <luke-jr> tail /var/log/apache2/error.log
16:01 <guru3>  Invalid command '[env=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}]', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
16:03 <guru3> ahhh
16:03 <guru3> that's supposed to be on the same line
16:03 <guru3> showing on a new line in the post
16:03 <luke-jr> yeah
16:03 <luke-jr> btw, this is in Svn now
16:03 <guru3> :S
16:03 <luke-jr> tools/http-auth-server/trunk
16:04 <luke-jr> in case you want to merge or smth
16:04 <guru3> my configuration might be a bit... whacky because i'm planning to link it to the forums, wiki, and a seperate set of tables
16:04 <guru3> so right now i have basic multi database support
16:04 <luke-jr> hm
16:04 <guru3> which entirely goes out the window of having certain databases with only certain types with this 401 response
16:04 <luke-jr> what about overlaps? >_<
16:05 <guru3> heirarchy
16:05 <guru3> goes to the forums first
16:05 <guru3> only goes there for now
16:05 <guru3> but easy enough to go to any other db
16:05 <guru3> just need to add a few lines in config.php
16:05 <luke-jr> yeah, you can have it list the supported types on a per user basis in theory
16:05 <guru3> not with how i have it setup
16:06 <luke-jr> hm
16:07 <luke-jr> z-man's code added some annoying division between username and authority :|
16:07 <luke-jr> which is why you need to specify authority to /login instead of appending @server
16:09 <guru3> guess i'll try merging the scripts
16:10 <guru3> oh poo
16:10 <luke-jr> ?
16:10 <guru3> hashauth vs armaauth
16:10 <luke-jr> I renamed it when the code ceased to be hash-specific :x
16:10 <guru3> i suppose you might have a point there
16:11 <guru3> time to send myself the code i wrote
16:11 <luke-jr> armaauth might not be the best name, but I can't think of anything better >_<
16:11 <guru3> armathentication
16:11 <guru3> :>
16:11 <luke-jr> armaauth for short then XD
16:15 <guru3> i need a way to combine arrays -_-
16:16 <guru3> or really append them together
16:16 <luke-jr> +
16:16 <guru3> ah
16:16 <luke-jr> but, it only works for associative arrays
16:16 <guru3> what do you know
16:16 <luke-jr> if two items share the same index/key, one is dropped
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16:18 <guru3> basically, im over writing your armaauth
16:18 <guru3> with all of your improvements
16:18 <guru3> but actually hooked up to a db
16:19 <luke-jr> O.o
16:19 <luke-jr> hooking up to db shouldn't be extensive changing ☺
16:19 <guru3> multiple db
16:19 <luke-jr> that either ☺
16:19 <guru3> it is
16:19 <guru3> :<
16:19 <luke-jr> :/
16:19 <guru3> well i mean
16:19 <guru3> it's not really
16:19 <guru3> but theres so much around
16:19 <guru3> and i did other design changes
16:20 <luke-jr> should just be a query to check name/vhost
16:20 <guru3> that it's easier to overwrite
16:20 <luke-jr> and another to check the passwords
16:20 <guru3> you'll see
16:20  * luke-jr gets scared
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16:30 <guru3> done
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16:32  * luke-jr peers at armabot
16:34 <guru3> yeah
16:35 <guru3> it works when i do ?method=
16:35 <guru3> but fails when i do armaauth/md5/
16:37 <guru3> somehow it's taking armaauth as the method in that case
16:38 <cusco> what is armaauth?
16:38 <luke-jr> cusco: authentication
16:38 <cusco> what is authentication required for?>
16:38 <guru3> nothing
16:38 <guru3> yet
16:38 <cusco> -_-
16:38 <cusco> hmm
16:38 <cusco> what are the plans?
16:39 <cusco> registering usernames?
16:39 <guru3> there's a thread on the forums
16:39 <luke-jr> guru3: so how is the overlapping namespace supposed to work again?
16:39 <guru3> you authenticate out of the main server
16:39 <luke-jr> eg, how do you stop someone from registering the name foobar on the forums?
16:39 <guru3> not out of the specifically attached database
16:39 <cusco> hmm sorry but Im not a consistent reader...
16:40 <luke-jr> cusco: do you have a forum account?
16:40 <guru3> luke-jr: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18176
16:40 <cusco> I don't think so :p
16:40 <guru3> cusco: that was for you
16:40 <guru3> not luke-jr
16:40 <cusco> ok
16:40 <luke-jr> guru3: what if the same name is 3 different people on each service? :\
16:40 <guru3> then they're fucked?
16:41 <luke-jr> -.-
16:41 <guru3> i don't know yet
16:41 <guru3> but like
16:41 <guru3> as long as they have different passwords
16:41 <guru3> it only results in difficulty for the people telling them apart
16:41 <luke-jr> they would still appear as the same account
16:41 <luke-jr> which totally defeats the purpose..
16:42 <cusco> what is xmpp?
16:42 <guru3> luke-jr: i'm working on it -_-
16:42 <luke-jr> cusco: the standards for realtime communication over the internet
16:43 <guru3> but i need to go shopping now
16:43 <guru3> so i'll think about it while walking
16:44 <cusco> so...
16:44 <cusco> # 1: as soon as one player logs in, only logged in users can play
16:44 <cusco> this setting does it make sense?
16:44 <cusco> hold on.. is this loggin in stuff with the main master server or with the individualservers?
16:52 <cusco> ok it looks like individual servers
16:55 <luke-jr> cusco: neither
16:55 <luke-jr> I can login as luke@dashjr.org on any auth-enabled server
17:00 <luke-jr> cusco: and in theory, people can login with their forum account @authentication.armagetronad.net
17:00 <luke-jr> cusco: but you need to login on the forum once before it will work
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17:27 <flex> #rating leluka
17:27 <armabot> flex: leluka is 665th with a rating of 1513-1579 (from 1515-1577)
17:27 <flex> #rating flex
17:27 <armabot> flex: flex is 820th with a rating of 1496-1542 (from 1510-1553)
17:28 <flex> #rating murder_murder
17:29 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'murder_murder'!
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17:52 <guru3> hurrah we've got the ability to get donations again
17:54 <guru3> what really bites
17:54 <guru3> is that i can't donate to the project
17:54 <guru3> because it'll just end up where it started
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18:11 <luke-jr> guru3: eh?
18:13 <guru3> nm -_-
18:14 <vinavil> flex, don't you get my pm?
18:14 <epsy> vinavil, i need the config for sumo
18:14 -!- liberweesco is now known as libervisco
18:15 <vinavil> epsy: the map is ready, how will the config work? will it change from previous or from basic settings?
18:15 <epsy> from previous
18:16 <epsy> put it in ~rain/testserver/config/
18:16 <epsy> i think i made a file for it
18:16 <epsy> can't remrmber its name
18:16 <epsy> let me chack
18:16 <vinavil> put what?
18:16 <epsy> sumo config
18:16 <vinavil> ah
18:16 <epsy> *acutaltestserver
18:17 <epsy> settings_custom_sumo.cfg
18:17 <flex> epsy what's that website to share code on..
18:17 <flex> can't remember the link
18:17 <luke-jr> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/485967082.html
18:17 <epsy> pastebin.ca ?
18:17 <flex> aye
18:17 <flex> ty
18:17 <epsy> :)
18:18 <vinavil> no no, that is so slow, use email please
18:18 <flex> it's quick
18:18 <vinavil> it is not here
18:18 <epsy> pastebin.com ?
18:18 <vinavil> (hihi, flex is afraid to give his email)
18:19 <madmax> there's a pastebin link in the topic too :-P
18:19 <flex> http://pastebin.com/f1fc1540 there
18:20 <flex> http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2696/screenshot15xx1.png
18:20 <flex> tell me what you think :)
18:21 <epsy> hah i don't like this font :P
18:21 <flex> well it's my font so it's not like you'll have the same font :p
18:22 <epsy> btw flex, you wanted to fix your problem with zones being too bright ?
18:22 <flex> urm, was it that command?
18:22 <flex> that never worked
18:22 <epsy> not a setting
18:22 <flex> well it did, but it gave me grinding "showers" lol
18:22 <epsy> you need to edit src
18:23 <epsy> wait
18:23 <epsy> alpha_blend is either 1 or 0
18:23 <epsy> lol
18:23 <flex> can you just give me the finished peice :p
18:23 <epsy> er...what os are you running?
18:23 <flex> xp
18:24 <epsy> i have NO clue how to complie anything for/with that
18:24 <vinavil> ohh, you have still version 1
18:24 <flex> that's the only version you have on the cockpit list rain
18:24 <flex> you should update :p
18:24 <vinavil> omg, really? :D
18:25 <flex> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpits_list#Essential
18:25 <vinavil> wtf, i'll not add the fastest
18:25 <vinavil> huh
18:27 <vinavil> you got some nice ideas flex, but i must find a way to make it as claner as possible
18:27 <vinavil> i'll add you in the credits when i upload
18:28 <flex> ah yeah sure, and thanks :p
18:28 <flex> I thought about positions but I couldn't figure out the neatest way
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18:29 <flex> I don't think there's any way you can add fastest, speed and brake without making it look abit too packed
18:29 <vinavil> indeed i'm not going to add fastest :D
18:30 <flex> speed freaks need fastest :p
18:30 <vinavil> haha
18:30 <guru3> i never did figure out the point of fastest
18:30 <vinavil> that is out of essential stuff :D
18:30 <guru3> speed, brake, rubber
18:30 <guru3> is all that's necessary
18:31 <flex> in fortress, when the team split, the fastest is the most likely to cut off the other team
18:31 <flex> so it's kind of a guidence to your speed, ie; if you're not fastest that's probably your issue to resolve :p
18:31 <flex> but that only is an issue for position 2 and 3
18:32 <guru3> -_-
18:32 <vinavil> i do not brake, so i'll do toggle brake meter :)
18:32 <flex> lol :p
18:32 <guru3> you can toggle the meters?
18:32 <flex> you don't really need speed then either :p
18:32 <flex> with hotkeys, yes
18:32  * guru3 had no idea
18:32 <flex> I think?
18:33 <vinavil> i think so, cannot you?
18:33  * guru3 doesn't know
18:33 <flex> I never tried so dunno either
18:33 <guru3> i'm not really up to date with the cockpit stuff
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18:43 <madmax> isn't it slower having to look at the numbers than visually see who's fastest?
18:43 <guru3> that's... a good point
18:43 <guru3> i always just thought of it as a sort of thing that was just there ore the hell of it
18:45 <epsy> #tea
18:45 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -=Fabi||, AshitakA, ChrisGW, cttK-Yo, CTT_rugkei, hoop, Klaus, metaz, O--->, RenWp, RoflRich.Com
18:56 <flex> lol, well it's more of the case I look after, dunno if that makes quite sense lol
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18:59 <luke-jr> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/bos/533096562.html
19:02 <Stewie-AFK> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/540076210.html
19:02 <Stewie-AFK> lol
19:02 <GodTodd> looking for a date, luke-jr? :)
19:03 <GodTodd> the vagina couch should come with a penis body pillow
19:05 <Stewie-AFK> it should...
19:06 <GodTodd> #quote get 68
19:06 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
19:07 <MrBougo> #quote get 42
19:07 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
19:09 <Stewie-AFK> here's a girl for Luke: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/w4m/546207737.html
19:12 <GodTodd> isn't heterosexuality against the natural order of things?
19:12 <GodTodd> :D
19:13 <Stewie-AFK> lol
19:13 <luke-jr> you two like making fools of yourselves, eh?
19:14 <GodTodd> we just don't want you to feel alone, luke-jr
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19:16 <GodTodd> !weather 75023
19:16 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
19:16 <Stewie-AFK> #weather 92037
19:16 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 37.8°F (12:20 PM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Falling).
19:16 <armabot> Stewie-AFK: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 55.9°F (10:20 AM PST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising).
19:17 <GodTodd> #weather 68104
19:17 <guru3> #weather 27510
19:17 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 19.4°F (11:52 AM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
19:17 <armabot> guru3: The current temperature in Chapel Hill, North Carolina is 30.2°F (12:56 PM EST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Pressure: 30.79 in 1042 hPa (Falling).
19:17 <GodTodd> man am i glad i moved
19:18 <GodTodd> luke-jr moving to the same town after i moved was just a bonus :)
19:18 <guru3> wow that's cold for there -_-
19:18 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
19:18 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 55.0°F (10:59 AM MST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady).
19:18 <GodTodd> chilly in mesa too
19:18 <Stewie-AFK> rofl, luke lives in Omaha?
19:18 <GodTodd> yep
19:18 <GodTodd> roundabout millard i gather
19:18 <Stewie-AFK> well I'm never going there...
19:19 <luke-jr> actually, Millard is quite a ways away
19:19 <GodTodd> you the other side? the east side then?
19:19 <GodTodd> i used to live in benson
19:20 <luke-jr> Ralston
19:20 <GodTodd> ah
19:20 <GodTodd> not far from benson
19:20 <GodTodd> i was around 48th and maple
19:20 <deja_vu> !weather karlsruhe
19:20 <deja_vu> #weather karlsruhe
19:20 <GodTodd> great place for jobs if you're in insurance or callcenters
19:21 <armabot> deja_vu: Temperature: 47.5°F / 8.6°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1005.6hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM CET; Rain. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Rain. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Rain. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.;
19:21 <luke-jr> GodTodd: 3 miles from church
19:21 <GodTodd> i wasn't into that crap anymore so moved :)
19:21 <deja_vu> feels colder -.-
19:21 <GodTodd> i wasn't far from that one big church...st. cecilia's i think it was
19:21 <luke-jr> I mean the Catholic church
19:21 <guru3> i wish weather did international weather
19:22 <Stewie-AFK> luke I thought Catholics weren't Christian?
19:22 <GodTodd> figures omaha would have the weird off the wall sects :)
19:22 <luke-jr> only Catholics are Christian
19:22 <Stewie-AFK> hmmm
19:22 <luke-jr> http://tinyurl.com/2uflb4
19:22 <Stewie-AFK> that's not what you used to say.
19:22 <luke-jr> it sure is
19:23 <Stewie-AFK> noob7_away, I remember you saying Catholics weren't Christian...
19:23 <Stewie-AFK> what?
19:23 <Stewie-AFK> I did not say that
19:23 <GodTodd> Stewie-AFK, as much as i hate to agree with luke-jr, he said that the catholic church isn't christian
19:23 <Stewie-AFK> awww
19:23 <Stewie-AFK> sorry
19:24 <GodTodd> 77th and military....that's near creighton prep, ain't it?
19:24 <luke-jr> no clue
19:24 <madmax> guru3: international weather? o_O
19:24 <madmax> #weather lppt
19:24 <armabot> madmax: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 62.6°F (6:00 PM WET on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Rising).
19:24 <luke-jr> near a Conciliarist highschool
19:24 <Stewie-AFK> oh that's why it said noob7, I typed no then tab -.- sorry, was aiming for shift...
19:24 <GodTodd> all boys?
19:25 <luke-jr> all girls
19:25 <GodTodd> hmmm
19:25 <guru3> oh my
19:25 <guru3> never did that for me
19:25 <guru3> #weather sheffield, england
19:26 <luke-jr> #weather guru3's town
19:26 <armabot> guru3: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:26 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:26 <luke-jr> doesn't work for me either
19:26 <GodTodd> that might be marian high
19:26 <luke-jr> GodTodd: indeed
19:26 <GodTodd> that's the only all girls school i knew of :)
19:26 <madmax> #weather sheffield
19:26 <armabot> madmax: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:26 <luke-jr> #weather england
19:26 <luke-jr> I win
19:26 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:26 <madmax> erm, have an airport code nearby? :-P
19:26 <luke-jr> O.o
19:26 <luke-jr> or not
19:27 <madmax> you won a 500 like everyone else
19:27 <luke-jr> 500 servers! :D
19:27 <guru3> #weather szd
19:27 <madmax> #cnn lisbon
19:27 <armabot> guru3: The current temperature in Sheffield, United Kingdom is 44.2°F (6:31 PM GMT on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady).
19:27 <armabot> madmax: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:27 <Stewie-AFK> I wish I won 500 -.-
19:27 <guru3> well that's a pain
19:27 <guru3> who would have guessed szd
19:27 <guru3> #help weather
19:27 <armabot> guru3: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
19:27 <guru3> i want it in celcius
19:28 <luke-jr> pfft
19:28 <luke-jr> I want it in hexadecimal
19:28 <luke-jr> :D
19:28 <guru3> :D
19:28 <GodTodd> #g 44.2 f in c
19:28 <Stewie-AFK> uhm... if it's in the UK... why is it in F
19:28 <armabot> GodTodd: 44.2 degrees Fahrenheit = 6.77777778 degrees Celsius
19:28 <Stewie-AFK> lol
19:28 <luke-jr> #g 44.2 F in hex
19:28 <armabot> luke-jr: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:28 <luke-jr> figures
19:28 <guru3> #g 44.2 decimal in hexidecimal
19:28 <luke-jr> #g 100 C in K
19:28 <armabot> guru3: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:28 <armabot> luke-jr: 100 degrees Celsius = 373.15 kelvin
19:29 <luke-jr> #g 0 K in C
19:29 <armabot> luke-jr: 0 kelvin = -273.15 degrees Celsius
19:29 <guru3> luke-jr: it's 2C.33333
19:29 <guru3> aparently
19:29 <guru3> now dinner, bbl
19:29 <luke-jr> no
19:29 <Stewie-AFK> #g -40 c in f
19:29 <armabot> Stewie-AFK: (-40) degrees Celsius = -40 degrees Fahrenheit
19:29 <Stewie-AFK> yay
19:29 <Stewie-AFK> lol
19:29 <luke-jr> 4b deg hex
19:29 <luke-jr> I think
19:30 <Stewie-AFK> #g -40 c in k
19:30 <luke-jr> no, c0
19:30 <armabot> Stewie-AFK: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:30 <Stewie-AFK> lol
19:30 <madmax> #g 1337 in hex
19:30 <armabot> madmax: 1,337 = 0x539
19:30 <luke-jr> hex degress are 0 = 0 K and 0xFF = 100 C ☺
19:31 <luke-jr> or was it 0x100…
19:31 <GodTodd> and that's useful how?
19:31 <luke-jr> why does it have to be useful?
19:31 <luke-jr> >:O
19:31 <GodTodd> isn't that the point of knowledge? to be able to apply it to tasks?
19:31 <luke-jr> no
19:32 <luke-jr> knowledge is an end in itself
19:32 <GodTodd> oh, yeah....you're catholic....the more useless the knowledge the better :D
19:34 <flex> d0n't be hatin
19:34 <luke-jr> #rating GodTodd
19:34 <GodTodd> bah...it's the special relationship luke-jr and i have :D
19:34 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'godtodd'!
19:34 <luke-jr> He knows thee not@
19:34 <luke-jr> !
19:35 <GodTodd> luke-jr, that might work better if the game ran for me...cuz then i might play
19:35 <GodTodd> heh
19:35 <luke-jr> excuses excuses
19:35 <luke-jr> what problem exactly are you having?
19:35 <GodTodd> you can't tell where the floor and walls are
19:35 <GodTodd> and they overdraw the cycle
19:36 <GodTodd> so you can't see where you are after a few seconds
19:36 <luke-jr> wtf?
19:36 <GodTodd> yep
19:36 <luke-jr> DRI is enabled?
19:36 <GodTodd> dunno
19:36 <GodTodd> i installed from source a while back
19:37 <GodTodd> it's if that matters
19:51 <GodTodd> you mean direct rendering, or what?
20:01 <GodTodd> wow... X.Org version: 1.3.0
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20:31 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7573 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/tools/tToDo.cpp: Fixed deadlock.
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20:35 <GodTodd> blah there we go
20:36 <GodTodd> fixed
20:36 <GodTodd> heh
20:38 <GodTodd> i forgot i wasn't using the restricted drivers on this machine for this pos ati card
20:41 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7574 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Refactoring, clientside support for good md5 format (not yet final), better error messages for the user.
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20:50 <away|AoS|> Give the chan a break hug an ircd instead
20:51 -!- away|AoS| is now known as beta|AoS|
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20:53 <madmax> #lastseen pavelo
20:53 <madmax> #lastseen zop
20:54 <armabot> madmax: timed out
20:54 <flex> lol
20:54 <armabot> madmax: timed out
20:54 <epsy> heh
21:02 <flex> Anyone here have an newzbin account? :)
21:05 <guru3> I think that's a "no".
21:07 <epsy> wrtlprnft, need an admin to someone who gets thru kick polls
21:08 <flex> what's wrtlprnft gona do? :p
21:09 <epsy>  /admin kick ?
21:09 <madmax> where? who?
21:14 <epsy> P4,
21:15 <vinavil> if i set the same toggle key for two functions of the cockpit and set one on at start and another off, will the hotkey switch between them?
21:16 <P4> epsy,
21:16 <beta|AoS|> I don't think you can map the same key for two functions.
21:17 <epsy> you can map a key to two keys
21:17 <epsy> P4, come in café
21:17 <P4> #tea
21:17 <armabot> P4: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): AshitakA, cttK-Yo, CTxGonzap, hoop, IL, zlayer, [SUI] Plafbi, |x| Sticky, ¦×¦ Legit, ¦×¦epsy
21:17 <P4> i cannot now
21:18 <P4> note if you want clanwar you should announce it on our forums, not just pick random Xers/Cters
21:18 <epsy> P4, just spec whatever
21:18 <epsy> we need an admin
21:18 <P4> ah, ok but quick plz
21:24 <K-Yo> #aka plastik
21:24 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿3312 plastik
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21:30 <Goodygumdrops> x quit signing on and off!
21:30 <xfroggy> pff
21:30 <Hoax-> still here goodz? xD
21:30 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, I am
21:30 <Goodygumdrops> :-\
21:31 <xfroggy> #kill GodTodd
21:31 <xfroggy> oops
21:31 <armabot> GodTodd will die on Mon Jan 21 21:35:12 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by xfroggy
21:31 <Hoax-> lmfao
21:31 <xfroggy> #kill Goodygumdrops
21:31 <armabot> Goodygumdrops will die on Mon Jan 21 21:35:17 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by xfroggy
21:31 <Hoax-> #make goody eat his own words
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> never gonna happen
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> lol
21:31 <Hoax-> ah...its already done.
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> what do you mean?
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> I've never been wrong
21:31 <xfroggy> lmao
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> 0.o
21:31 <Hoax-> 'irc is for geeks'
21:31 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, so?
21:32  * xfroggy googles in Hoax- 
21:32 <Hoax-> o.O
21:34 <xfroggy> #slap Hoax-
21:34 <armabot> xfroggy slaps Hoax- for being a raving moron.
21:35 <Hoax-> no comment atm tbh
21:36 <Goodygumdrops> bad news, hoax
21:36 <Goodygumdrops> I have a job interview tomorrow
21:38 <Hoax-> haha xfroggy when was the last time you checked java
21:38 <Hoax-> thats great news Goodygumdrops, gl
21:38 <epsy> xfroggy, ffs
21:38 <epsy> d3? :P
21:38 <Goodygumdrops> no way...what if I get the job?
21:39 <Hoax-> better quality service for big mac eaters?
21:39 <Goodygumdrops> I'll have to do STUFF
21:39 <epsy> stuff ? huh
21:40 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, exactly
21:40 <Goodygumdrops> it's gonna be terrible
21:40 <xfroggy> epsy, I'm leaving in 5 min LOL
21:41 <xfroggy> epsy, you always asking me when I'm about to leave haha xD
21:41 <epsy> ...
21:42 <Hoax-> epsy you should hook up with sunny
21:44 <epsy> no
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21:45 <Hoax-> lol!
21:51 <vinavil> epsy: is it fts ready?
21:53 <armabot> fts_feedback: kamichu -
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21:54 <epsy> what?
22:00 <vinavil> the sumo part?
22:00 <vinavil> the map is in the repository
22:00 <Goodygumdrops> sumoooooooo
22:00 <epsy> i am still waiting for the sumo config
22:00 <vinavil> the settings can be the same for now
22:00 <epsy> ok
22:00 <vinavil> i'll change tomorrow
22:00 <epsy> what's the resource name?
22:01 <flex> what about the cockpit rain? changed it yet? :)
22:01 <vinavil> no, sorry, had to register a song
22:01 <flex> alright
22:02 <epsy> should understand it's intended to be 6-axed ?
22:02 <epsy> *shoult i
22:02 <epsy> oh whatever
22:02 <vinavil> ????
22:02 <vinavil> 6 axed?
22:02 <epsy> should i understand it your map is intended to run with 6 axes ?
22:02 <epsy> *-it
22:03 <vinavil> omg, why?
22:03 <epsy> idk, the spawns are put as if
22:03 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/rain/fortress/sumo-0.1.aamap.xml
22:04 <vinavil> well, it will take at least 5 minutes to upload the page, i'll look at local file
22:06 <vinavil> shit, you are right
22:10 <vinavil> ok, i fixed it. it will take around 15 minutes to upload to repository. i'll tell you when it is there
22:11 <epsy> so it's not on 6 axes ?
22:11 <vinavil> damn, no :D
22:12 <epsy> :(
22:14 <vinavil> lol, it doesn't even load the page f the tool
22:14 <vinavil> of*
22:14 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:14 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 19.2°F (3:16 PM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa (Falling).
22:15 <epsy> vinavil, all rejoin
22:15 <ghableska> #tea
22:15 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): AshitakA, Endless, flex, hoop, ¦×¦ earplugs, ¦×¦ FoFo, ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Legit
22:16 <vinavil> omg epsy
22:17 <epsy> vinavil, got lagged out
22:18 <vinavil> it crashes
22:18 <vinavil> oh, maybe there is another bug
22:19 <epsy> im still in
22:19 <epsy> maybe you can't download the map?
22:20 <vinavil> maybe
22:20 <vinavil> anyway, the spawining degrees system, is it clock wise?
22:21 <epsy> could you connect again?
22:22 <vinavil> and where does 0° start? right, left, up or down?
22:24 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/rain/fortress/sumo-0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by rain
22:29 <epsy> what happened
22:29 <epsy> #ping
22:29 <epsy> duh
22:29 <armabot> pong
22:30 <flex> when I open Armagetron, my TV stops working :p
22:31 <flex> signal lose
22:31 <flex> wtf is that about..
22:31 <vinavil> lol
22:35 <vinavil> neither my first modem was so slow
22:36 <vinavil> i wonder what it is thinking about
22:38 <vinavil> nooo, that is not 6 axes
22:38 <Lucifer_bed> my first modem was 1200bps
22:38 <Lucifer_bed> no wait, we had a 300bps when I was a kid
22:38 <GodTodd> you didn't have one of the 300s?
22:38 <GodTodd> haha
22:38  * GodTodd was gonna say ;)
22:39 <Lucifer_bed> we bought the 1200 when the BBSes stopped letting in 300
22:39 <Lucifer_bed> heh, my wife is freaking out
22:39 <Lucifer_bed> overloaded with school + work
22:40 <vinavil> luke-jr's too, and he still use it for arma repository. he is for environment.
22:40 <Lucifer_bed> now that the shoe's on the other foot, I'm quite enjoying this
22:42 <Lucifer_bed> what's the mass of an electron?
22:42 <GodTodd> when i was 18-19...school + work was too much for me ;)
22:43 <GodTodd> 9.11E-31?
22:43 <GodTodd> kg that is
22:45 <Lucifer_bed> I need to compare the upward force on an electron near the earth's surface due to the electric field to the downward force due to gravity
22:46 <Lucifer_bed> ok, that was right, thanks :)
22:47 <GodTodd> np
22:47 <Lucifer_bed> grrr
22:47 <Lucifer_bed> (b) What magnitude charge should be placed on a penny of mass 2 g so that the electric force balances the weight of the penny near the earth's surface?
22:47 <Lucifer_bed> given that the electric field is 270 N/C near the earth's surface
22:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/rain/fortress/sumo-0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by rain
22:48 <vinavil> alleluja!
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22:49 <Lucifer_bed> hi z-man (hi there!)
22:49 <z-man> evening
22:49 <Lucifer_bed> this might be a dumb question, but 2 g = .02kg, right?
22:49 <GodTodd> .002
22:49 <z-man> 0.002 kg
22:50 <Lucifer_bed> heh, thanks :)
22:50 <GodTodd> i fall into that trap when we have labs that i have to convert g->kg as well as cm->m
22:50 <GodTodd> i end up trying to move the decimal the same for both :/
22:51 <Lucifer_bed> well, that didn't fix my answer
22:51 <Lucifer_bed> to find the electric force exerted on an object, I just multiply the field * the charge, right?
22:52 <z-man> Yes.
22:52 <Lucifer_bed> er, where did I change 170 to 270?  ;(
22:53  * Lucifer_bed considers again if it would be worth getting tested for dyslexia
22:53 <Lucifer_bed> that fixed it, thanks
22:56 <GodTodd> would dyslexia change 170 to 270? or more likely to change it to 710?
22:58 <Lucifer_bed> I don't know, I don't know enough about it really.  But I was thinking 2g when I was writing the electric field, if that tells you where the 2 came in
23:01 <Lucifer_bed> k in coulomb's law is 8.99E9, right?
23:04 <GodTodd> heh
23:05 <GodTodd> yeah
23:05 <GodTodd> give or take ;)
23:05  * Lucifer_bed looks it up
23:05 <GodTodd> i have 8.988
23:05 <Lucifer_bed> ah
23:05 <GodTodd> so yeah 8.99 is close
23:06 <Lucifer_bed> we're only doing 3 sig figs
23:07 <Lucifer_bed> grrr, I came out with the wrong answer :(
23:07 <Lucifer_bed> oo, I forgot the sign of the charge, that's why
23:07 <GodTodd> hrmm...should i clean the crock pot or do curve fitting?
23:08 <Lucifer_bed> curve fitting
23:08 <Lucifer_bed> crock pot cleans itself
23:08 <GodTodd> nah...it has to be wiped out by someone
23:08 <Lucifer_bed> well, that's not true in my house
23:08 <Lucifer_bed> if I leave something sitting there, it doesn't clean itself, and it doesn't get cleaned when I'm not looking at it
23:08 <GodTodd> same here
23:09 <GodTodd> it works for everyone but me
23:09 <GodTodd> like the self-cooking dinners they've come up with
23:09 <Lucifer_bed> yay, one more problem and then my physics homework is done
23:10 <GodTodd> i have 9 days til mine is due
23:10 <GodTodd> i have linear algebra and tech writing and a prelab due before those are due
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23:11 <Lucifer_bed> I lied, I still have one more
23:11 <Lucifer_bed> this is the one I struggled with most of the day yesterday
23:11 <Lucifer_bed> z-man: you still here?
23:12 <Lucifer_bed> my physics is due tomorrow
23:12 <Lucifer_bed> er, I just realized they want a point on the positive x axis
23:12 <z-man> Yeah, still around
23:13 <Lucifer_bed> got a minute for homework help?  ;)
23:13 <z-man> yeah
23:13 <Lucifer_bed> Point charges of -9 µC, 5.0 µC, and +9 µC are located along the x axis at x = -1.0 cm, x = 0, and x = +1.0 cm, respectively. Locate a point on the positive x axis where the magnitude of the electric field is zero.
23:13 <K-Yo> haha
23:14 <Lucifer_bed> I don't see where that can happen, the two positive charges will always dominate the one negative charge on the positive x axis
23:15 <z-man> The electic field is proportional to q/|x-x_0|^2
23:15 <z-man> where x is your current position, q the charge, and x_0 the charge position.
23:15 <z-man> hmm
23:17 <z-man> your point needs to be somewhere between x=0 and x=1
23:17  * madmax recomends Serway's books
23:17 <z-man> there the force from the big positive charge is pushing into the opposite direction.
23:17 <Lucifer_bed> ahhh, right
23:18 <Lucifer_bed> so I say the negative charge + the left-hand positive charge = the right-hand positive charge
23:18 <z-man> yeah
23:18 <Lucifer_bed> (or rather, the sums of the charges = 0 should do it)
23:18 <z-man> charge == force from the charge?
23:18 <Lucifer_bed> no, electric field
23:19 <z-man> same :)
23:19 <z-man> So you need so solve q_1/|x-x_1| + q_2/|x-x_2| - q_3/|x-x_3| = 0
23:20 <z-man> The extra minus at the end because q3 gives a field into the opposite direction
23:20 <z-man> oh, and all | | need to be squared :)
23:20 <z-man> So you need so solve q_1/|x-x_1|^2 + q_2/|x-x_2|^2 - q_3/|x-x_3|^2 = 0
23:21 <Lucifer_bed> hmm, q_1 is minus also and gives a field in the opposite direction
23:21 <z-man> q_1 = -9 uC, q_2 = .5 uC, q_3 = 9 uC
23:21 <Lucifer_bed> ah, I see, that works still :)
23:21 <z-man> yeah, but if you move very close to q2, that field gets very large.
23:22 <z-man> You need the exact solution or just an approximation?
23:23 <Lucifer_bed> approximation
23:23 <Lucifer_bed> it's a 4th degree polynomial :/
23:23 <z-man> Yes :)
23:24 <z-man> I suppose you know how to proceed? Newton?
23:24 <Lucifer_bed> that's a more sensible function
23:24 <Lucifer_bed> The one I was coming up with didn't hit the x axis anywhere :)
23:25 <Lucifer_bed> umm, this is the part where I plug it into the graphing calculator and ask it where the x intercepts are
23:25 <z-man> If that's allowed, yes.
23:25 <Lucifer_bed> I will have this calculator on tests, so it should be fine
23:25 <Lucifer_bed> I'll ask tomorrow to be sure, if not I'll need to brush up on newton's :)
23:26 <z-man> A problem you have with equations of this type is that you have to solve them piece by piece; if your numeric solver in this case would give an answer outside of the [0...1] interval, it would be invalid.
23:28 <Lucifer_bed> that got the right answer, thanks!  I worried this problem for several hours yesterday with apparently the wrong equation, heh.
23:29 <Lucifer_bed> the numeric solver on my calculator requires I pick the bounds, which is good.  To get it to not freak out at the asymptote at the origin I had to zoom in real far, but that's fine
23:29 <z-man> Yeah, those can be tricky to remember.
23:30 <Lucifer_bed> it's a physics class, I'm sure the guy doesn't care about testing our algebra, but I'll make sure to ask if he cares if we use graphical methods to solve equations
23:30 <Lucifer_bed> I had the right formula yesterday, I just wasn't setting it up right.  It was easier in statics when you didn't have so many sign issues :)
23:31 <epsy> vinavil,
23:31 <vinavil> epsy,
23:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/rain/fortress/sumo-0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by rain
23:31 <epsy> once you made your map
23:31 <Lucifer_bed> I got 16 out of 19 right on this one, which isn't bad considering how many times I tried to guess the order of magnitude on a wrong answer, heh
23:31 <epsy> edit cfg file
23:32 <epsy> you know where it is right ?
23:32 <Lucifer_bed> better not do that next time
23:32 <vinavil> it just finished to upload
23:32 <vinavil> where is it?
23:32 <epsy> /home/rain/actualtestserver/config/settings_custom_sumo.cfg
23:32 <vinavil> ok
23:32 <epsy> i also moved fort cfg file
23:32 <epsy> /home/rain/actualtestserver/config/settings_custom_fort.cfg
23:33 <vinavil> ah
23:33 <vinavil> so, does it load sumo first?
23:33 <epsy> yes
23:33 <epsy> well no
23:33 <vinavil> mmm
23:33 <epsy> at start it loads fort then sumo
23:33 <epsy> so it gets physics etc
23:34 <vinavil> how do i make it load sumo first?
23:34 <epsy> why?
23:34 <vinavil> because it is the first map the first player will play
23:34 <vinavil> so no reason to load first fort and then sumo
23:34 <epsy> when the server starts
23:34 <epsy> it loads fort config
23:35 <epsy> which contains physics etc
23:35 <epsy> then it loads sumo cfg
23:35 <vinavil> i understood, but i can set physics in sumo config
23:35 <epsy> ok do it then
23:36 <epsy> then edit settings_dedicated.cfg to only include sumo settings
23:36 <vinavil> ok
23:37 <vinavil> the map is up, i just have to change link in sumo config, right?
23:37 <epsy> yes
23:37 <vinavil> are you going to sleep?
23:37 <epsy> ok cya now, im sick
23:37 <epsy> yes
23:37 <vinavil> huh, ok. kiss
23:37 <epsy> :*
23:38 <vinavil> for screen is control+?
23:38 <epsy> a ?
23:39 <vinavil> mmm
23:39 <epsy> ?
23:39 <vinavil> ok, got it
23:39 <epsy> cya then
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23:50 <flex> [22:42] <vinavil> huh, ok. kiss
23:50 <flex> [22:42] <epsy> :*
23:50 <flex> Lal
23:50 <vinavil> want one you too? kiss :)
23:51 <flex> lol, no :p
23:51 <flex> but i'll have a hug :p
23:52 <Hoax-> u know epsy is gay right?
23:52 <Hoax-> flex is just whore
23:52 <flex> epsy is gay?
23:53 <Hoax-> sure
23:56 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
23:56  * spidey yawns
23:56 <armabot> spidey: [14:43:10] <luke-jr> spidey is bragging about how he's legally insane, [14:12:47] <luke-jr> turn the heat on spidey, [14:10:03] <luke-jr> spidey: nut, [12:35:56] <luke-jr> spidey: __FILE__, [18:36:58] <luke-jr> spidey: I am, [18:29:39] <luke-jr> spidey: shurg, [18:15:48] <luke-jr> spidey: gonna take your civ back from teh AI?, [17:58:57] <luke-jr> spidey: gfy, [17:48:59] <luke-jr> spidey: no (6 more messages)
23:57 <flex> #roulette
23:57 <armabot> flex: *click*
23:57 <flex> #roulette
23:57 <armabot> flex: *click*
23:57 <flex> #roulette
23:57 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:57  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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Log from 2008-01-22:
--- Day changed Tue Jan 22 2008
00:03 <vinavil> #armaconfig game
00:03 <armabot> vinavil: GAMEOBJECT_MOVE_TIMEOUT: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10) || GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (default: 10) || GAME_TYPE: Type of game played. 0 for freestyle, 1 for last team standing and 2 for humans vs. AIs. (default: 1) || KEYBOARD 112 PLAYER_BIND PAUSE_GAME 0 : || KEYBOARD 19 PLAYER_BIND PAUSE_GAME 0 : || (1 more message)
00:10 <vinavil> how do i create a new screen?
00:15 <Lucifer_bed> buy a monitor?
00:15 <GodTodd> first you decide if it will be crt or lcd...
00:15 <Lucifer_bed> why not get a projector?
00:15 <Lucifer_bed> then you can just cop out and buy a screen for it and say you made the screen :)
00:16 <GodTodd> heh...or just project on the wall
00:16 <GodTodd> then you don't have to buy the screen :)
00:16 <vinavil> control+a then control+?
00:16 <Lucifer_bed> so clear out a section of wall and your solution is found
00:17 <GodTodd> control a what?
00:17 <vinavil> in the terminal, "screen"
00:19 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: you mean a new window inside a screen session?
00:19 <wrtlprnft> ctrl-a ctrl-c
00:19 <wrtlprnft> c for create
00:20 <vinavil> ty wrtl
00:21 <wrtlprnft> yw
00:24  * Lucifer_bed is confused
00:24 <vinavil> anybody can come to fts for a test?
00:24 <Lucifer_bed> anyone up for differential equations?
00:24 <GodTodd> not me
00:24 <GodTodd> i'm making dinner
00:25 <GodTodd> homemade grilled chicken sandwiches topped with grilled veggies
00:25 <GodTodd> :)
00:28 <vinavil> #armaconfig iq
00:28 <armabot> vinavil: AI_IQ: IQ of the AI opponents (default: 100) || AUTO_IQ: Automatically adjust AI IQ? (default: 0) || SP_AI_IQ: IQ of the AI opponents in single player mode (default: 0) || SP_AUTO_IQ: Automatically adjust AI IQ in single player mode? (default: 1)
00:28 <vinavil> what is the maximum iq?
00:29 <Lucifer_bed> 100?
00:33 <vinavil> did you put a question mark because it should be obvious?
00:37 <spidey> lol
00:38 <Lucifer_bed> yes
00:38 <spidey> the ai r dumb
00:38 <GodTodd> actually, if it is using the standard iq scale that'd be about average/normal
00:39 <Lucifer_bed> it's not, it's a percentage
00:39 <spidey> so
00:39 <spidey> it's still dumb
00:39 <spidey> :D
00:39 <vinavil> i just need 2 players more. come on. 1 minute
00:39 <GodTodd> percentage? of what?
00:39 <Lucifer_bed> you can make smart ais, or at least ais that are really hard to beat, by editing aiplayers.cfg
00:40 <spidey> vinavil, i would but i haven't played/had arma installed for months
00:40 <Lucifer_bed> what's fts?
00:41 <GodTodd> my arma was broken...turns out i just hadn't installed the restricted drivers i need for this vidja card :/
00:41 <GodTodd> heh
00:41 <vinavil> fortress test server
00:41 <spidey> lmao todd
00:41 <spidey> i used to play arma with 30fps with my onboard intel
00:41 <spidey> without drivers installed
00:42 <GodTodd> well...when you can't see where the walls or your opponents are, it's hard to not die ;)
00:42 <spidey> installed the drivers, it went upto 60~ish xD
00:44 <Hoax-> #lastseen madmax
00:44 <armabot> Hoax-: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 57 minutes ago.
00:44 <spidey> #stab Hoax-
00:44 <spidey> fail :<
00:44 <Hoax-> #si 9
00:44 <armabot> Hoax-: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): No online players.
00:44 <Hoax-> hehe
00:45 <GodTodd> si 9...isn't that an oxymoron? ;)
00:45 <spidey> lol
00:46 <spidey> so
00:46 <spidey> Lucifer_bed, GodTodd up for civ?
00:46 <spidey> :D
00:46 <GodTodd> #last --from GodTodd --with dinner
00:46 <armabot> GodTodd: [00:29:03] <GodTodd> i'm making dinner
00:46 <GodTodd> #time
00:47 <armabot> GodTodd: 12:51 AM, January 22, 2008
00:47 <spidey> it's takes you a hour to make dinner? O.o
00:47 <Hoax-> hes no slouch in the kitchen
00:47 <spidey> lol
00:47 <Hoax-> I think iv'e got some washing he can do
00:47 <GodTodd> #last --from GodTodd --with chicken
00:48 <armabot> GodTodd: [00:29:55] <GodTodd> homemade grilled chicken sandwiches topped with grilled veggies
00:48 <spidey> i just ate roast beef :D
00:49 <GodTodd> did you make it?
00:49 <GodTodd> :P
00:49 <spidey> no lol
00:49 <spidey> but it was good :>
00:49 <GodTodd> heh
00:50 <Lucifer_bed> no civ
00:51 <Lucifer_bed> vinavil: what's taking so long?
00:54 <vinavil> mmm
00:54 <vinavil> i do not know
00:54 <Lucifer_bed> did you break it?
00:55 <vinavil>  the script that changes from sumo to fortress when there are at least 4 players was written by epsy today, so there may be some bugs, i suppose
00:55 <vinavil> ok, it is online
00:58 <Lucifer_bed> oh good, game crashed
00:58 <Lucifer_bed> odd, I didn't think there were any crashing bugs still in
01:00 <vinavil> luci, where did you go? :(
01:01 <vinavil> luci, come back for 1 min
01:05 <spidey> mmm
01:06 <spidey> freeciv don't offer nix binaries? o.o
01:07 <spidey> oh wow
01:07 <spidey> i forgot i haven't even touched this debian box since i installed it xD
01:07 <spidey> no sudo xD
01:15 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:16 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 18.9°F (6:16 PM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 29.10 in 985.3 hPa (Rising).
01:16 <ghableska> :-/
01:17 <spidey> ack
01:18 <spidey> looks like i'm compiling it latest version in aptitude is 2.0.8
01:36 <vinavil> sigh sob, they steal your nick. you inform them you are rain  in game/forums/wiki... they say they have never seen and they do not know forums/wiki.
01:37 <vinavil> and whatever, the nick is just a nick, but the fact they do not take part in the community, that is sad.
01:38 <vinavil> #m epsy it seems it switch to fortress with 5 players, not 4. the rest is good. i have to fix the last thing in the map, i'll do tomorrow. kisses
01:38 <armabot> vinavil: The operation succeeded.
01:39 <vinavil> #night
01:39 <armabot> Good night vinavil!
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02:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7575 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/tools/tMemManager.cpp: Silenced leak warnings from external libraries.
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02:59 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7576 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/tron/gGame.cpp: Call DoToDo() while waiting for real players.
03:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7577 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentification.cpp: Using an Executer instead of manually starting threads.
03:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7578 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/ (language/english_base.txt src/network/nKrawallPrivate.cpp): Leakfix and even better error messages.
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03:19 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
03:19 <armabot> pong
03:20 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, !
03:24 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
03:25 <ghableska> hey mom
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> hey
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: http://www.enn.com/wildlife/article/29620
03:53 <ghableska> heh
03:56 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7579 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/ (nAuthentification.cpp nKrawall.h nKrawallPrivate.cpp): skeletons for fetching additional data about users and authentication methods.
04:16 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, civ?
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> if you can round up luci and luke perhaps
04:17 <spidey> i dunno if luci will play
04:17 <spidey> but i'll try
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04:52 <Your_mom_arma> hey van
04:52 <Vanhayes> hello
04:52 <Vanhayes> spidey, im up for civ, i think i figured it out
04:53 <Vanhayes> the right clicking thing that is
04:53 <Your_mom_arma> huh?
04:53 <spidey> rofl
04:53 <spidey> well
04:53 <Vanhayes> this laptop doesnt have a right click button, last time we played i could only see a straight line down
04:53 <spidey> luci says he wants to play but can't right now
04:54 <spidey> and mom won't play unless we get luci and luke
04:54 <spidey> xD
04:54 <Vanhayes> soon(insert questionmark)
04:54 <spidey> and i'm playing a local game atm
04:55 <Vanhayes> fuck this laptop is annoying me, it wont let me use a question mark, and other keys on the rightside
04:55 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
04:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 32 seconds old; Wild West  =Sumo= (8/14), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (8/14), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (6/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), ~\AuC/~ Clan DF Server (5/8), =====> The Races of Zadda <===== (5/8), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (5/12), Unnamed Server (4/16), G-Land (4/8), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (4/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (3/10), (1 more message)
04:56 <Your_mom_arma> mabey we could have a quick game today and get a decent one together w/ everyone fri?
04:56 <spidey> mm
04:56 <spidey> sure
04:56 <spidey> Vanhayes, wanna do that?
04:57 <Vanhayes> sure, im pretty rusty anyways, need to get familiar with the new version too
04:57 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, ping
04:57 <spidey> k
04:57 <spidey> luke hasn't been replying to me all day
04:57 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, jesus was a false prophet
04:57 <spidey> haha
04:57 <Vanhayes> I guess he really isnt there
04:58 <spidey> want me to host the server?
04:58 <Vanhayes> tell luci that luke-jr , might sweeten the pot
04:58 <Vanhayes> luke-jr isnt playing*
04:59 <spidey> mm
05:01 <Your_mom_arma> ping?
05:01 <spidey> pong?
05:02 <Vanhayes> spidey, so, want to get a quick game going
05:02 <Your_mom_arma> so its just you van and myself? server up yet?
05:02 <spidey> connect to wtfhax.net port 5556
05:02 <spidey> configure it, i'll brb
05:03 <spidey> if i forwarded the port to the right server :S
05:03 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, wrong client version
05:03 <Your_mom_arma> bah
05:03 <spidey> 2.1.x
05:04 <spidey> ok hayes connected = works
05:04 <spidey> brb
05:04 <Your_mom_arma> im using 2.1.0 beta
05:04 <spidey> erm
05:04 <spidey> try 2.1.2
05:04 <spidey> that's what server i'm using
05:05 <Vanhayes> im using the latest stable version
05:05 <Your_mom_arma> give me like 5 mins~
05:10 <Vanhayes> #ping
05:10 <armabot> pong
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> im in I think
05:11 <Vanhayes> ya, your there
05:12 <Your_mom_arma> been a long time
05:13 <Vanhayes> same, friday was the first time i played civ in over half a year, and i only played a few rounds
05:18 <Vanhayes> #list alias
05:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, roulette, 42, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, cters, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, (3 more messages)
05:18 <Vanhayes> #fink
05:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: (fink <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "cink [finc $1]".
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05:39 <Vanhayes> #finc -23
05:39 <armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
05:39 <Vanhayes> dont tell me what I dont need
05:40 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 1°F / -17°C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.55in / 1034hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM AST; Tonight - Clear. Wind northwest 30 km/h becoming light overnight. Low -23C(-9F). Cold wind chill -30.; Tuesday - Increasing cloudiness. Periods of snow beginning in the morning. Amount 5 cm(2.0 in). Wind becoming (2 more messages)
05:40 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 26.6°F (9:00 PM MST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
06:17 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
06:17 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 34.0°F (12:17 AM EST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029.0 hPa (Steady).
06:17 <mkzelda> anyone know how to escape a filename starting with a hypen?
06:19 <mkzelda> quotes around filename doesnt help, \- doesnt either
06:34 -!- loor [n=11stod@203-59-214-190.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #armagetron
06:35 <mkzelda> nm, fullpath does the job
06:39 <Vanhayes> #ping
06:39 <armabot> pong
06:42 <loor> #weather Perth, Australia
06:42 <armabot> loor: The current temperature in Perth, Western Australia is 91.4°F (2:30 PM WST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
06:42 <loor> To hot...
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> #dice
06:43 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> #dice 3
06:43 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Error: Dice must be of the form <dice>d<sides>
06:44 <GodTodd> #dice 3d6
06:44 <armabot> GodTodd: 2, 1, and 3
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06:44 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:44 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 40.3°F (11:48 PM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady).  Dense fog advisory in effect until 9 am CST Tuesday...
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06:44 <Your_mom_arma> #dice 1d3
06:44 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: 2
06:45 <GodTodd> #dice 10d100
06:45 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
06:45 <GodTodd> bah
06:45 <GodTodd> #dice 6d100
06:45 <armabot> GodTodd: 98, 56, 100, 47, 68, and 75
06:45 <Vanhayes> #ping
06:45 <armabot> pong
06:45 <loor> #lastseen loor
06:45 <GodTodd> #list alias
06:45 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, 42, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, cters, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, (3 more messages)
06:45 <armabot> loor: Loor has last been seen on =====> The Races of Zadda <===== 18 hours 2 minutes ago.
06:46 <loor> #dog
06:46 <armabot> loor: Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight: No online players.
06:46 <loor> Ahh
06:46 <loor> #dance
06:46 <armabot> loor does the 'I killed chat' dance.
06:46 <loor> Some of these commands...
06:47 <GodTodd> #dice 2d6
06:47 <armabot> GodTodd: 3 and 5
06:48 <GodTodd> #dice 2d6
06:48 <armabot> GodTodd: 5 and 2
06:48 <GodTodd> crapped out :/
06:48 <loor> #monologue
06:48 <armabot> loor: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
06:48 <Hoax-> #kill loor
06:48 <armabot> loor will die on Tue Jan 22 06:52:40 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Hoax-
06:48 <loor> Noooo
06:48 <Hoax-> afraid so
06:48 <loor> what timezone? :P
06:49 <Hoax-> LOL!
06:49 <loor> :D
06:49 <Hoax-> armabot is gmt+1
06:49 <Hoax-> #time
06:49 <armabot> Hoax-: 06:53 AM, January 22, 2008
06:49 <loor> Then i should already be dead.
06:49 <Hoax-> hmm :/
06:49 <GodTodd> it's immediate iirc...i think it's a $now
06:50 <GodTodd> #help kill
06:50 <armabot> GodTodd: (kill <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will die on $now due to being stabbed in the eye by $who".
06:50 <GodTodd> yep
06:51 <loor> #list alias
06:51 <armabot> loor: monologue, roulette, 42, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, cters, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, (3 more messages)
06:51 <loor> #more
06:51 <armabot> loor: goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, legit, lock, log, log, ls, luke, lukejr, lukejrwork, lukejrworks, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, poing, pong, praise, (2 more messages)
06:52 <loor> There is way to many.
06:52 <loor> #pacman
06:52 <armabot> WTF man? Play armagetronad you dumbass!
06:52 <loor> :P
06:52 <Hoax-> LOL
06:53 <Hoax-> #help digitx
06:53 <armabot> Hoax-: (digitx <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "shuffle op ja vnc op me vnc op ja ja op vnc op me me me op ja vnc op vnc vnc me ja op ja me op vnc vnc ja".
06:53 <Hoax-> lol
06:53 <loor> Come again?
06:53 <Hoax-> #hyphy
06:53 <armabot> Hoax-: lawlz of hi5 j00 n00bz ace pwnz or of i in life n robs ccz and moneyz $ _ $ of ur of the makez
06:53 <Hoax-> :D
06:53 <loor> lol
06:54 <Hoax-> #legit
06:54 <loor> #pingy
06:54 <armabot> pongy
06:54 <armabot> Hoax-: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
06:54 <loor> Haha?
06:54 <ct|kyle> lol
06:54 <Hoax-> #fofo
06:54 <loor> I wonder what this does
06:54 <armabot> http://xclan.freehostia.com/images/banner2.jpg
06:54 <loor> #murder
06:54 <Hoax-> hahahahahahahahahaha
06:54 <armabot> loor: (murder <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of $randomNick's $randomNick-s".
06:54 <loor> lol
06:54 <loor> #murder Hoax-
06:54 <armabot> Hoax- will get murdered by Stewie-arma on Thu Dec 12 20:28:41 1996 because Hoax- tried to kill one of Stewie-arma's GodTodd-s
06:54 <ct|kyle> #murder Hoax-
06:55 <armabot> Hoax- will get murdered by StickyNoob on Tue Nov 22 07:49:33 1983 because Hoax- tried to kill one of beta|AoS|'s Stewie-arma-s
06:55 <ct|kyle> lol
06:55 <loor> Heh
06:55 <Hoax-> jajaja
06:55 <loor> #pingme
06:55 <armabot> loor: ping!
06:55 <loor> Lol
06:55 <ct|kyle> armabot: pong
06:55 <armabot> ping
06:56 <ct|kyle> lol
06:56 <Hoax-> #ping
06:56 <armabot> pong
06:56 <ct|kyle> armabot: ping
06:56 <armabot> pong
06:56 <loor> #praise
06:56 <armabot> loor: (praise [<channel>] [<id>] <who|what> [for <reason>]) -- Praises <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific praise. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
06:56 <Hoax-> #praise ct|kyle
06:56  * armabot falls down to his knees and praises ct|kyle
06:56 <loor> :P
06:56 <Hoax-> armabot: get some self respect
06:56 <ct|kyle> ]bible search age
06:56 <armabot> Hoax-: Error: The command "get" is available in the Praise and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
06:56 <loor> #davesstupidwebsite"rss
06:57 <loor> Hmm
06:57 <Hoax-> u dont wana do that
06:57 <Hoax-> xD
06:57 <loor> Okay.
06:57 <loor> #die
06:57 <loor> Or not..
06:57 <Hoax-> ]bible search Loor
06:58 <ct|kyle> his bot is not here
06:58 <Hoax-> what a bitch
06:58 <ct|kyle> only 12 pages
06:58 <loor> I still think #weather is the handiest
06:58 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
06:58 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Fort Wayne, Indiana is 29.3°F (1:03 AM EST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Pressure: 29.18 in 988.0 hPa (Falling).
06:59 <loor> #weather perth, Australia
06:59 <armabot> loor: The current temperature in Perth, Western Australia is 91.4°F (2:30 PM WST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
06:59 <GodTodd>  #g is pretty handy too
06:59 <ct|kyle> wow heat wave
06:59 <Hoax-> heh
06:59 <loor> Now thats hot.
06:59 <ct|kyle> no it has been like 10 all week
06:59 <Hoax-> #weather london, uk
06:59 <armabot> Hoax-: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 39.2°F (5:50 AM GMT on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
07:00 <GodTodd> #weather sux
07:00 <loor> #weather Manila, Phillipenes
07:00 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Sioux City, Iowa is 5.0°F (11:52 PM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: -13.0°F. Pressure: 30.40 in 1030 hPa (Falling).
07:00 <armabot> loor: Temperature: 84°F / 29°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM PHT; Thunderstorm. High:86 ° F. / 30 ° C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:86 ° F. / 30 ° C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° (1 more message)
07:00 <loor> O_o
07:00 <ct|kyle> #weather Go
07:00 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
07:00 <ct|kyle> #weather GodTodd
07:00 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
07:00 <GodTodd> #weather dfw
07:00 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas is 44.6°F (11:53 PM CST on January 21, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).  Dense fog advisory in effect until 9 am CST Tuesday...
07:01 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
07:01 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 40.3°F (12:04 AM CST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady).  Dense fog advisory in effect until 9 am CST Tuesday...
07:01 <loor> #weather Darwin, Australia
07:01 <armabot> loor: The current temperature in Darwin Airport, Northern Territory is 86.0°F (3:00 PM CST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
07:01 <loor> Pfft
07:01 <loor> So whats
07:01 <loor> #g
07:01 <armabot> loor: (google calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
07:01 <GodTodd> silly people with summer in january ;)
07:01 <loor> Ahhh
07:02 <Hoax-> pfff doesnt even have some major cities in the uk
07:02 <loor> Silly?
07:02 <loor> :P
07:02 <loor> Perth is going through a heat wave
07:02 <Hoax-> you live in perth?
07:02 <loor> Does it look up predicted temperatures?
07:02 <loor> Yes, i do.
07:02 <GodTodd> i don't think so
07:02 <loor> Darn.
07:03 <Hoax-> uk ex-pat capital of autrailia
07:03 <loor> #weather new york, USA
07:03 <armabot> loor: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
07:03 <loor> :/
07:03 <Hoax-> #weather nyc
07:04 <armabot> Hoax-: The current temperature in Central Park, New York is 24.8°F (12:51 AM EST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Falling).
07:04 <loor> Ahh
07:04 <Hoax-> ;)
07:04 <loor> Does it do time zone conversions i wonder?
07:04 <loor> # time Perth, Australia
07:04 <armabot> loor: Error: 'Australia' is not a valid floating point number.
07:04 <loor> ?? :P
07:08 <loor> #bye
07:08 <armabot> Goodbye loor :(
07:08 <loor> :P
07:08 -!- loor [n=11stod@203-59-214-190.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit []
07:09 <GodTodd> #time
07:09 <armabot> GodTodd: 07:13 AM, January 22, 2008
07:09 <GodTodd> #help time
07:09 <armabot> GodTodd: (time [<format>] [<seconds since epoch>]) -- Returns the current time in <format> format, or, if <format> is not given, uses the configurable format for the current channel. If no <seconds since epoch> time is given, the current time is used.
07:09 <GodTodd> #time 7689
07:09 <armabot> GodTodd: 03:08 AM, January 01, 1970
07:09 <GodTodd> heh
07:11 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:11 <GodTodd> #g 3600*3 + (60*8)
07:11 <armabot> GodTodd: (3,600 * 3) + (60 * 8) = 11,280
07:11 <GodTodd> #g 3600*2 + (60*8)
07:11 <armabot> GodTodd: (3,600 * 2) + (60 * 8) = 7,680
07:12 <GodTodd> wow...epoch must be 1 am 1/1/70
07:12 <GodTodd> not midnight
07:16 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@54.29-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
07:17 <GodTodd> #quote get 68
07:17 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
07:17 <Hoax-> haha
07:18 <GodTodd> what's that other one...?
07:18 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
07:18 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
07:18 <GodTodd> that's it :D
07:19 <MrBougo> :D
07:19 <MrBougo> #quote random
07:19 <Hoax-> lmfao
07:19 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
07:19 <MrBougo> harhar
07:19 <Hoax-> #quote random
07:19 <armabot> Hoax-: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
07:19 <GodTodd> #q
07:19 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
07:19 <GodTodd> #q
07:19 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
07:19 <GodTodd> #q
07:19 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
07:19 <GodTodd> haha
07:20 <Hoax-> LOL
07:21 <GodTodd> there's one about a microsoft pen too
07:21 <GodTodd> not sure what number
07:21 <GodTodd> #q
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
07:21 <GodTodd> #q
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
07:21 <GodTodd> #q
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #44: "the real question is, what idiot hosted a server for Hyphy? -- Lucifer_arma" (added by ghableska at 04:02 AM, March 05, 2007)
07:21 <Hoax-> lol
07:21 <GodTodd> #q
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
07:21 <GodTodd> #q
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
07:21 <GodTodd> #quote get 58
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
07:21 <GodTodd> heh
07:21 <GodTodd> #quote get 60
07:21 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
07:22 <GodTodd> #quote get 65
07:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
07:22 <GodTodd> #quote get 50
07:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #50: "<epsy_> MrBougo, X frozed <epsy_> no more wrtl+alt+del" (added by epsy at 03:53 PM, July 09, 2007)
07:22 <GodTodd> haha
07:22 <GodTodd> #quote get 40
07:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #40: "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale - Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:40 AM, December 16, 2006)
07:22 <GodTodd> #quote get 45
07:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
07:22 <Hoax-> LOL
07:22 <GodTodd> i remember that one :)
07:23 <Hoax-> damnit lukejr reminds me of some character in something
07:23 <Hoax-> idk what though
07:23 <GodTodd> he's a character alright
07:23 <GodTodd> :)
07:23 <GodTodd> #quote get 35
07:23 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
07:23 <GodTodd> #quote get 38
07:23 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
07:24 <GodTodd> #quote get 55
07:24 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!" (added by epsy at 01:30 PM, August 12, 2007)
07:24 <GodTodd> #quote get 51
07:24 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
07:24 <GodTodd> #quote get 52
07:24 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #52: "<DrJoeTron> spidey <spidey> ? <epsy> stfu spidey" (added by epsy at 11:40 PM, July 29, 2007)
07:24 <GodTodd> #quote get 53
07:24 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #53: "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:44 PM, August 10, 2007)
07:24 <GodTodd> hahaha
07:24 <GodTodd> #quote get 54
07:24 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
07:24 <GodTodd> #quote get 56
07:24 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: There is no Quote with id #56 in my database for #armagetron.
07:25 <GodTodd> #quote get 57
07:25 <MrBougo> i didnt even know about the 55 one
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
07:25 <MrBougo> eek
07:25 <MrBougo> was a wrong timing
07:25 <GodTodd> harharhar
07:25 <GodTodd> out of context rules :)
07:25 <GodTodd> #quote get 58
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
07:25 <MrBougo> the 2nd message popped up while i was pressing enter
07:25 <Hoax-> lol @ 53 ^^
07:25 <GodTodd> #quote get 59
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
07:25 <MrBougo> :o
07:26 <MrBougo> #quote get 48
07:26 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
07:26 <MrBougo> :(
07:26 <GodTodd> #quote get 61
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
07:26 <GodTodd> #quote get 62
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
07:26 <GodTodd> #quote get 63
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #63: "GodTodd: definition of great : agrees with luke-jr's views" (added by ct|kyle at 04:27 AM, November 17, 2007)
07:26 <GodTodd> haha
07:26 <MrBougo> har
07:26 <MrBougo> GodTodd likes himself
07:27 <GodTodd> hrmm?
07:27 <GodTodd> #quote get 64
07:27 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't abuse power" (added by GodTodd at 11:42 PM, December 04, 2007)
07:27 <GodTodd> #quote get 66
07:27 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #66: "<Ady666> armabot say 'ello [...] <Ady666> its not smart enough" (added by epsy at 12:16 AM, December 22, 2007)
07:27 <GodTodd> #quote get 67
07:27 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #67: "browser? like xp, vista, mac? stuff like that? cause i have a vista~Neutrino" (added by ct|kyle at 04:29 AM, December 27, 2007)
07:27 <ct|kyle> heh now i remember 63
07:29 <GodTodd> #help quote
07:29 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: There is no command "quote".
07:29 <GodTodd> #list quote
07:29 <armabot> GodTodd: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
07:29 <GodTodd> #quote search microsoft
07:29 <armabot> GodTodd: 2 found: #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months..." and #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to..."
07:29 <GodTodd> that's the one
07:29 <GodTodd> #quote get 22
07:29 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
07:30 <GodTodd> #quote search GodTodd
07:30 <armabot> GodTodd: 4 found: #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?", #41: "<spidey> hmm  <GodTodd> stfu spidey", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", and #63: "GodTodd: definition of great : agrees with..."
07:30 <GodTodd> only 4 for me :P
07:30 <GodTodd> #quote search Bougo
07:30 <armabot> GodTodd: 5 found: #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo", #50: "<epsy_> MrBougo, X frozed <epsy_> no more...", #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!", #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm...", and #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game..."
07:31 <Stewie-arma> #search stewie
07:31 <armabot> Stewie-arma: There were no matching configuration variables.
07:31 <Stewie-arma> damn I lose
07:31 <MrBougo> #get 50
07:31 <GodTodd> #quote search Stewie
07:31 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: The command "get" is available in the Praise and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
07:31 <armabot> GodTodd: No matching quotes were found.
07:31 <Hoax-> #quote search hyphy
07:31 <MrBougo> #quote get 50
07:31 <armabot> Hoax-: 1 found: #44: "the real question is, what idiot hosted a..."
07:31 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #50: "<epsy_> MrBougo, X frozed <epsy_> no more wrtl+alt+del" (added by epsy at 03:53 PM, July 09, 2007)
07:31 <Stewie-arma> I guess I fail...
07:31 <GodTodd> #quote search luke
07:31 <armabot> GodTodd: 11 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right...", #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel...", #60: (1 more message)
07:31 <Hoax-> #quote search durka
07:31 <Stewie-arma> wait, someone hosted a server for hyphy?
07:31 <armabot> Hoax-: 1 found: #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b"
07:31 <Hoax-> LOL
07:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr is very quoteable
07:32 <MrBougo> #quote search noob
07:32 <armabot> MrBougo: 1 found: #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other..."
07:32 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma, yep
07:32 <MrBougo> #quote search the
07:32 <armabot> MrBougo: 17 found: #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on...", #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code...", #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate...", #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other...", #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China,...", #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay", #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units...", #37: "Out of (2 more messages)
07:32 <MrBougo> THE WINS
07:32 <Stewie-arma> wtf? I bet it was luke-jr -.-
07:32 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma, yep
07:32 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Your_mom@] has quit ["cya"]
07:32 <Hoax-> #quote get 36
07:32 <armabot> Hoax-: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
07:32 <spidey> will you fuckers stop spamming armabot?
07:32 <Stewie-arma> I knew it...
07:32 <GodTodd> #seen n54
07:32 <spidey> that shit's getting annoying
07:32 <armabot> GodTodd: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 32 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
07:32 <GodTodd> spidey, stfu
07:32 <GodTodd> :P
07:32 <spidey> you stfu
07:32 <GodTodd> you
07:33 <Stewie-arma> no srsly, spidey stfu
07:33 <ct|kyle> #quote search luke-jr
07:33 <spidey> wrtlprnft, control your bot -.-
07:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: 10 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel...", #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good", #63: "GodTodd: definition of (1 more message)
07:33 <Hoax-> ladies ladies....
07:33 <Stewie-arma> wait but srsly, luke hosted a server for hyphy?
07:33 <GodTodd> yep
07:33 <ct|kyle> ya
07:33 <GodTodd> never got paid but yeah
07:33 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@54.29-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
07:33 <Stewie-arma> cause I new luke was dumb, but I didn't know he was retarded...
07:33 <Hoax-> haha
07:33 <ct|kyle> well hyphy and legit
07:34 <Stewie-arma> and it didn't get paid? lol
07:34 <GodTodd> of course not
07:34 <GodTodd> heh
07:34 <Stewie-arma> well yeah, it's hyphy. he never pays for shit
07:34 <Vanhayes> something about stolen credit cards too
07:34 <GodTodd> yep
07:34 <Stewie-arma> haha
07:34 <Vanhayes> it was pretty funny actually
07:34 <Stewie-arma> has he been arrested yet? (please say yes)
07:34 <GodTodd> doubt it
07:34 <Stewie-arma> damn...
07:35 <Vanhayes> i think he is like 12
07:35 <Hoax-> how olds hyphy
07:35 <Hoax-> yeah...
07:35 <Stewie-arma> he's a little chitlen
07:36 <Vanhayes> a little bipolar too i think
07:36 <Hoax-> the best was hyphy, psyko and whatup maybe, in cafe fighting over who could lift the most weights and who's dad was the best
07:36 <Stewie-arma> "I'm gunna probe ya! cause I'm the intern!!!"
07:38 <Stewie-arma> hmmm I see things quieted down a little...
07:38 <Stewie-arma> xfroggy: Piong
07:38 <Vanhayes> #quote get 32
07:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
07:38 <Vanhayes> #quote get 31
07:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
07:38 <Vanhayes> #quote get 33
07:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
07:39 <Stewie-arma> hayes
07:39 <Vanhayes> where is the pedophile on GodTodd
07:39 <Vanhayes> ya
07:39 <Stewie-arma> we had enough with the spamming
07:39 <Stewie-arma> search it
07:39 <Stewie-arma> #list quote
07:39 <armabot> Stewie-arma: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
07:39 <Stewie-arma> #quote search pedophile
07:39 <armabot> Stewie-arma: 1 found: #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good"
07:39 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:39 <Stewie-arma> oh god todd one?
07:40 <Stewie-arma> #quote get 57
07:40 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
07:40 <Stewie-arma> hmmm that one makes me giggle...
07:41 <Vanhayes> #quote get 60
07:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
07:41 <Vanhayes> #quote get 68
07:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
07:41 <Vanhayes> #quote get 70
07:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #70 in my database for #armagetron.
07:41 <Vanhayes> #quote get 69
07:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #69 in my database for #armagetron.
07:42 <Vanhayes> the next quote has to be a good one
07:44 <Stewie-arma> yeah, cause you know getting a good ol' 69 has to be excellent doesn't it...
07:47 <GodTodd> bah...69 is overrated ;)
07:47 <Hoax-> 7am & still pitch black outside
07:47 <Hoax-> i hate that
07:48 <Vanhayes> ya, now a 138...
07:48 <GodTodd> that reminds me of a joke tho
07:48 <GodTodd> what's a woman't top speed?
07:49 <Stewie-arma> eh 138 would be interesting...
07:49 <GodTodd> woman's*
07:49 <GodTodd> 68...cuz at 69 she blows a rod
07:49 <Stewie-arma> she shouldn't be moving, she should be making dinner
07:50 <GodTodd> ever tried making dinner without moving?
07:50 <Stewie-arma> yeah
07:50 <Vanhayes> it takes a while, and things catch fire
07:50 <GodTodd> heh
07:50 <Stewie-arma> just put a pizza in the oven sit down on the couch, it gets done.
07:51 <GodTodd> you have to move to put the pizza in the oven
07:51 <GodTodd> then you move to the couch
07:51 <Stewie-arma> but that isn't making the dinner then is it
07:51 <GodTodd> then you have to take the pizza out again
07:51 <Stewie-arma> but that still isn't making the dinner
07:51 <Stewie-arma> that is getting the dinner.
07:51 <GodTodd> you can make a pizza without putting it in the oven?
07:51 <Stewie-arma> and getting ready for the dinner
07:51 <spidey> i can
07:51 <spidey> one time our oven went out
07:51 <Stewie-arma> dude, I have heatvision
07:51 <GodTodd> sure sure
07:51 <spidey> i put it over the toaster, and the toaster on high
07:51 <Stewie-arma> so stfu
07:52 <spidey> it cooked pretty good
07:52 <GodTodd> our toaster oven is made to do frozen pizzas :)
07:52 <Stewie-arma> hmmm ghetto cooking, it works perfectly
07:52 <Hoax-> why do women have smaller feet: so they can stand closer to the kitchen sink
07:52 <spidey> i don'tmean toaster oven
07:52 <spidey> i mean toaster
07:52 <spidey> the thing you put bread in
07:52 <spidey> =p
07:53 <Stewie-arma> hmmmmm, that doesn't sound believeable
07:53 <GodTodd> did you cut it into little pieces?
07:53 <spidey> nono
07:53 <spidey> i cut the pizza in half
07:53 <Stewie-arma> anyone here had bao?
07:53 <spidey> cooked it 1 half at a time
07:53 <GodTodd> bad ass odor?
07:53 <spidey> put each half ontop of it
07:53 <Stewie-arma> no
07:53 <Stewie-arma> bao is a sweet bun with stuff in the middle....
07:53 <Stewie-arma> not like that perverts
07:54 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma likes sweet buns with stuff in the middle?
07:54 <GodTodd> :D
07:54 <spidey> haha
07:54 <spidey> i take it when he reffers to sweet bun, he means his ass?
07:54 <Vanhayes> scott bao?
07:54 <Stewie-arma> "[22:58]  <Stewie-arma> not like that perverts"
07:54 <spidey> i take it when he reffers to sweet bun, he means his ass?
07:54 <GodTodd> spidey, dunno...i haven't seen his ass
07:54 <spidey> me either
07:54 <Stewie-arma> "[22:58]  <Stewie-arma> not like that perverts" spidey...
07:54 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:55 <Stewie-arma> I put that for a reason
07:55 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma likes sweet buns with stuff in the middle
07:55 <spidey> i always knew you was a pervert Stewie-arma
07:55 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd likes spidey's stuff in the middle of his buns....
07:55 <spidey> nah
07:55 <spidey> todd's to old for me
07:56 <Stewie-arma> that's why he likes it...
07:56 <Vanhayes> over 12= too old for spidey
07:56 <spidey> Vanhayes, WHO TOLD YOU THAT?!
07:56 <Stewie-arma> you did...
07:56 <spidey> lies
07:56 <Stewie-arma> we have a quote somewhere
07:56 <GodTodd> nah...spidey has an ongoing thing with luke-jr
07:56 <Vanhayes> you were drunk off of jesus juice at the time
07:57 <Stewie-arma> "12 year olds are to old for me" -spidey
07:57 <spidey> ...
07:57 <spidey> and i call you a liar
07:57 <Stewie-arma> and I say I quoted you....
07:58 <spidey> proof plox?
07:58 <Stewie-arma> so eat that bitch!
07:58 <Vanhayes> and I say you quoted a liar
07:58 <Stewie-arma> I just quoted you
07:58 <Stewie-arma> that is your proof.... plox
07:58 <spidey> you don't have proof that you quoted me
07:58 <spidey> beside you saying you did..
07:58 <Vanhayes> quoted what
07:58 <spidey> lol
07:58 <Vanhayes> damn
07:59 <spidey> Vanhayes, wanna continue that game?
07:59 <Stewie-arma> "[23:01]  <Stewie-arma> "12 year olds are to old for me" -spidey" there I just quoted me quoting you, there is my proof quoting you
07:59 <Vanhayes> thought you would fall for that
07:59 <spidey> nah
07:59 <spidey> i'm not completely stupid =D
07:59 <spidey> Stewie-arma, still,you're only quoting what you say i said
08:00 <Stewie-arma> thus my proof
08:00 <spidey> and i call you a liar :D
08:00 <spidey> ANYWAYS
08:00 <spidey> Vanhayes, wanna continue that game?
08:00 <Stewie-arma> well if I'm a liar then you must be a liar, cause it is a quote that you said
08:00 <spidey> when did i say it?
08:00 <Vanhayes> continue what game
08:00 <Stewie-arma> well I quoted you therefor you must have said it
08:00 <Stewie-arma> only works for me though...
08:01 <spidey> the one we left, i saved off when luci and mom left
08:01 <Vanhayes> nah, continue it some other time, when mom and luci are there
08:01 <GodTodd> [00:58] <Stewie-arma> I like sweet buns with stuff in the middle
08:01 <spidey> k
08:02 <Stewie-arma> hey how many Dragonball Z charachters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
08:02 <spidey> wanna start a new one? or the one i've been playing locally? :D
08:02 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd: to bad that time hasn't happened yet...
08:02 <Vanhayes> nah, going to need to go to sleep soon
08:02 <spidey> k
08:03 <GodTodd> it has on my client which is what generated the timestamp
08:03 <Stewie-arma> HA your timestamps are a lie...
08:03 <Vanhayes> you are a witch
08:03 <Stewie-arma> proven fact...
08:03 <GodTodd> nope...my timestamps are central time :P
08:03 <Vanhayes> Witch I say
08:03 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd is a time traveling demon... GTFO
08:03 <spidey> his timestamps match up with mine
08:03 <Stewie-arma> Dr. Who is coming for you punk.
08:04 <Vanhayes> WITCHES
08:04 <Hoax-> GodTodd, do you play arma?
08:04 <GodTodd> Vanhayes, as long as you don't call me xtian :)
08:04 <GodTodd> Hoax-, on occasion
08:04 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
08:04 <spidey> GodTodd, xtian
08:04 <spidey> :D
08:04 <GodTodd> spidey, stfuun00b
08:04 <Vanhayes> since I cant pronounce that wod, I wont
08:04 <spidey> ok luke
08:04 <GodTodd> :)
08:05 <spidey> :D
08:05 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:05 <GodTodd> now you're pushing it spidey
08:05 <GodTodd> :P
08:05 <spidey> xD
08:06  * GodTodd really doesn't feel like doing algebra homework
08:06 <GodTodd> :/
08:06 <spidey> do mine
08:06 <spidey> i got 6 books to do
08:06 <GodTodd> yours would be easier ;)
08:07 <Stewie-arma> well to bad, God, you always have to do you homework. Or else you get screwed over.
08:07 <Hoax-> homework? how old are you ^^
08:07 <GodTodd> nah...it's only 10% of my grade
08:07 <Stewie-arma> he's twee yees old
08:07 <Hoax-> lol
08:07 <GodTodd> Hoax-, 32, you?
08:07 <GodTodd> :)
08:07 <Hoax-> 19
08:08 <Hoax-> Goodygumdrops, is 62
08:08 <GodTodd> ah...i remember 19...or at least most of it XD
08:08 <Hoax-> hehe ;)
08:08 <spidey> GodTodd, name your bot JesusTodd
08:08 <spidey> ..
08:08 <Vanhayes> go 19 woot
08:08 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:08 <Vanhayes> hoax, are you american
08:08 <GodTodd> that would only be useful in #jesus and with some creative plugins ;)
08:08 <Hoax-> No.
08:09 <Stewie-arma> damn I remember when I was 19...
08:09 <Stewie-arma> those were the days.
08:09 <Vanhayes> ok then, I cant hoard it over you that i can buy liquor and you cant
08:09 <Hoax-> rofl
08:10 <GodTodd> some americans can at 18 ;)
08:10 <GodTodd> legally even
08:10 <Hoax-> so this is where tron elders come to rot away eh :D
08:10 <Stewie-arma> as you are one of them I suppose.
08:10 <Vanhayes> wher ein america can you at 18
08:10 <GodTodd> louisiana last i checked
08:10 <spidey> really?
08:11 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes waut weare you trying to say there?
08:11 <Vanhayes> they make good wings
08:11 <GodTodd> last i knew unless they changed it
08:11 <Vanhayes> heh, I turned 19 when I mved to alberta, where the age is 18, kinda took away from it a little bit
08:12 <Stewie-arma> darn.. sucks for you hayes, sucks for you.
08:12 <Hoax-> I don't get id'd hardly ever tbh
08:12 <GodTodd> ah...they changed it apparently
08:12 <GodTodd> 18 to get into bars and 21 to drink now
08:13 <Vanhayes> i havent been idd inover a year
08:13 <Vanhayes> what would you do in a bar at 18 if you cant drink
08:13 <Hoax-> my mate just toured the us for abit...he said its easy to get ppl to just buy drinks for you
08:13 <luke-jr> #later tell Your_mom_arma nice try, but that article is just bad English ☺
08:13 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
08:13 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes pick up chicks?
08:13 <GodTodd> play pool, darts...pick up ass ;)
08:14 <Vanhayes> ya but then you feel guilty cause they are drunk
08:14 <Hoax-> darts ftw
08:14 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes that's when they are the best...
08:14 <Vanhayes> and you arent*
08:14 <Stewie-arma> oh
08:14 <Stewie-arma> uhm...
08:14 <Stewie-arma> nvm
08:14 <spidey> get them to go buy some and call it even?
08:15 <Vanhayes> pool, is fun, but id rather not play in a bar, usually more expensive than a pool hall or billiards
08:15 <GodTodd> a chicks looks increase in quality in direct proportion to the amount of alcohol you consume :)
08:15 <Hoax-> beer goggles eh
08:15 <Stewie-arma> yeah, that's why I said nvm
08:15 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: Hyphy paid, but with stolen CC
08:15 <Hoax-> not always a good thing :/
08:15 <GodTodd> that's not paying then
08:15 <GodTodd> heh
08:16 <Stewie-arma> did you report him? (please say yes)
08:16 <Vanhayes> anyways, when you turn 21 and can drink, you would have a bunch of 18 year olds there that either got shitfaced outside or are sober
08:16 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: I forget
08:16 <Stewie-arma> damn, why isn't he arrested yet? -.-
08:16 <luke-jr> dunno
08:16 <Vanhayes> he is 12
08:17 <Hoax-> luke-jr, what were you talking about when you said "ct|kyle: ever seen Death Note?"
08:17 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes more of a reason... get anally raped at a young age, make sure he doesn't do it again.
08:17 <luke-jr> Hoax-: anime
08:17 <Hoax-> luke-jr, haha im watching that now
08:17 <luke-jr> Hoax-: ending sucks
08:17 <Vanhayes> ... that didnt make sense to me Stewie-arma
08:17 <luke-jr> I'd quit when L get killed
08:17 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma, unless he likes that sort of thing ;)
08:18 <Hoax-> luke-jr, well u got up to 10 or so a while ago, then watched them all again & im on like 15
08:18 <Hoax-> i*
08:18 <luke-jr> Hoax-: yeah, I suggest quitting when L gets killed
08:18 <Hoax-> luke-jr, its starting to flop a bit tbh
08:18 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd I wouldn't be surprised...
08:18 <Hoax-> thats what that bitch gets for having weird eyes
08:18 <Vanhayes> i still dont understand what it is you said
08:19 <GodTodd> is hyphy american?
08:19 <luke-jr> Hoax-: lol
08:19 <Vanhayes> he claims to be
08:19 <luke-jr> GodTodd: Cali
08:19 <GodTodd> ah...he'd go to juvie then
08:19 <luke-jr> he tried to scam me again under a different name a month ago
08:19 <luke-jr> but I caught him on the bad address
08:19 <luke-jr> Google Maps said it didn't exist, so I questioned him
08:20 <Vanhayes> is he still around
08:20 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes, you said he is 12, then I said what I said...
08:20 <Stewie-arma> about getting arrested...
08:20 <Stewie-arma> that was the context...
08:20 <luke-jr> Hoax-: you're about to get a really nice twist on the plot
08:20 <Vanhayes> oh, ok,  get it now, i thought you were still talking about 18 year olds going into bars
08:20 <Stewie-arma> oh no lol
08:21 <GodTodd> that could fit too, i suppose
08:21 <GodTodd> heh
08:21 <Hoax-> luke-jr, i was shoked at how fast that bint found him
08:21 <Vanhayes> ya, in a sick,weird, ay
08:21 <Vanhayes> way*
08:21 <Hoax-> luke-jr, he should just hit that then chuck her
08:21 <Stewie-arma> hmmm maybe I should catch uhm on my Death Note...
08:21 <luke-jr> Hoax-: Ryuk's fault, he didn't tell Light
08:21 <luke-jr> Hoax-: eh?
08:21 <Stewie-arma> haven't seen it in awhile...
08:22 <Vanhayes> #lastseen hyphy
08:22 <luke-jr> if Light kills Misa, Rem will kill him
08:22  * GodTodd never really got into anime.
08:22 <Hoax-> oh
08:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: (Em)hyphy(EM) has last been seen on - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - 2 days 2 hours 27 minutes ago.
08:22 <Hoax-> im not that far
08:22 <Vanhayes> #seen hyphy
08:22 <luke-jr> o
08:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: hyphy was last seen in #armagetron 27 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 12 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <hyphy> wow
08:22 <luke-jr> you're close at least
08:22 <Hoax-> yea the same twat who got me into this game got me into this anime shit too
08:22 <luke-jr> wait, didn't you just imply you knew Misa was arrested?
08:22 <Stewie-arma> hmmm he's scheduled for another visit...
08:22 <Hoax-> er no
08:22 <Hoax-> stfu lol
08:22 <luke-jr> >_<
08:23 <Vanhayes> his ip was banned
08:23 <GodTodd> Hoax-, the burning bush did it!
08:23 <Hoax-> luke-jr, haha, no i mean light just happened to walk past the cafe she was in...
08:23 <GodTodd> there i ruined it :)
08:23 <Stewie-arma> orly?
08:23 <Hoax-> lol
08:23 <luke-jr> Hoax-: she told Light where to go
08:23 <Hoax-> its always bush these days....
08:24 <GodTodd> just for another year :)
08:24 <Hoax-> luke-jr, oh ok...but still it progressed quite abit from there
08:24 <luke-jr> besides, there was always the huge fscking arrow of Ryuk floating above him
08:24 <Hoax-> obama ftw?
08:24 <luke-jr> practically a sign saying "LOOK OVER HERE"
08:24 <GodTodd> obama is an idiot
08:24 <Vanhayes> go fred tompson, he is an actor, so he must be good
08:24 <luke-jr> unlike Ryuk, Rem loves Misa
08:25 <Hoax-> k lol
08:25 <GodTodd> they're all idiots
08:25 <Hoax-> any other good series?
08:25 <Vanhayes> they are politicians, most are idiots
08:25 <Stewie-arma> Cowboy Bebop lol
08:25 <GodTodd> most?
08:25 <GodTodd> heh
08:25 <GodTodd> pokemon ftw!
08:25 <GodTodd> :D
08:25 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:26 <luke-jr> Hoax-: Juuni Kokkui
08:26 <Hoax-> politicians dont run the country, economists do
08:26 <Stewie-arma> what is this: (o)
08:26 <Hoax-> at least they should do
08:26 <luke-jr> Bebop & Pkmn suck compared to other things
08:26 <GodTodd> a chick with a mastectomy?
08:26 <Stewie-arma> possibly
08:26 <GodTodd> er that'd be (o)Y--
08:26 <Stewie-arma> in reality it was an o with two parenthesis around it...
08:26 <GodTodd> XD
08:27 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: someone messed up a ʘ
08:27 <Stewie-arma> no
08:27 <Hoax-> luke-jr, looks hardcore..i cant see many english google results lol
08:27 <luke-jr> Hoax-: ?
08:27 <Stewie-arma> it was an o with two parenthesis around it...
08:28 <luke-jr> http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=26
08:28 <luke-jr> ๏
08:28 <Stewie-arma> no
08:28 <spidey> /
08:28 <spidey> \
08:28 <spidey> /
08:29 <GodTodd> that's why... luke-jr misspelled it
08:29 <GodTodd> heh
08:29 <Hoax-> luke-jr, you bastard, juuni kokki you mean?
08:29 <luke-jr> Main Title
08:29 <luke-jr> Juuni Kokuki (a26)
08:29 <luke-jr> yeah
08:29 <luke-jr> :D
08:29 <Hoax-> lol >.<
08:29 <GodTodd> ...which is not what you spelled
08:30 <GodTodd> :P
08:30 <Hoax-> cool, noted
08:30 <Hoax-> did u watch the english dub of dn ?
08:30 <luke-jr> dubs are not anime >:O
08:31 <Hoax-> yeah they suck
08:31 <Hoax-> although i like reading posts from lazy cunts who cant read asking when the dub comes out :>
08:31 <Stewie-arma> anyways I g2g
08:32 <Stewie-arma> it's sleepy sleep time, for everyone.
08:32 <Hoax-> ciao *<):D
08:32 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: no
08:32 <luke-jr> retard
08:32 <luke-jr> I just woke up
08:32 <Hoax-> GodTodd, <GodTodd> obama is an idiot
08:32 <Hoax-> orly?
08:32 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: yes, faggot you should be asleep right now.
08:32 <luke-jr> no
08:33 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr, what is it like 1am there?
08:33 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: 1:37 AM
08:33 <Stewie-arma> exactly
08:33 <luke-jr> screw you
08:33 <Stewie-arma> get yo ass to sleep bitch
08:33 <Hoax-> wow
08:33 <GodTodd> Hoax-, yep
08:33 <luke-jr> wtf is an obama
08:33 <Hoax-> GodTodd, How come
08:33 <Hoax-> LOL
08:33 <GodTodd> Hoax-, many reasons
08:33 <GodTodd> heh
08:33 <Stewie-arma> he is a black president candidate
08:33 <Hoax-> who is ftw then?
08:34 <Hoax-> rofl Stewie-arma
08:34 <luke-jr> http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
08:34 <luke-jr> says he is an idiot
08:34 <Stewie-arma> yes I realize I am good at grammaring
08:34 <GodTodd> i don't forecast who i'll vote for til after the primaries
08:34 <luke-jr> 1. "Remembering Dr. Martin Luther King Jr"
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08:35 <GodTodd> it's probably gonna be clinton v. mccain....not looking forward to that choice :/
08:35 <luke-jr> 2. he compares himself to Hillary
08:35 <luke-jr> that alone says he is a retard
08:35 <Stewie-arma> hmmm both will destroy the US even more...
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08:35 <GodTodd> yep
08:35 <Hoax-> tbh hes not even that black imo
08:35 <Stewie-arma> well that sucks...
08:35 <Stewie-arma> go libertarian...
08:35 <luke-jr> Hoax-: wtf does that matter?
08:35 <GodTodd> luke-jr, you have a problem with MLK Jr?
08:35 <luke-jr> if you want to be racist, elect Alan Keyes
08:36 <Hoax-> luke-jr, lol america makes it a big deal
08:36 <luke-jr> GodTodd: other than that he was a protestant who stole credit without really doing much of anything
08:36 <Stewie-arma> the only reason MLK Jr is famous is because he was a martyr..
08:36 <GodTodd> really...so he lip synced all his speeches?
08:36 <luke-jr> who cares about speeches?
08:36 <luke-jr> he tells people what they want to hear
08:37 <luke-jr> that's all speeches from politicians are
08:37 <GodTodd> this from a catholic
08:37 <GodTodd> hahaha
08:37 <Stewie-arma> except for the white people..
08:37 <luke-jr> if anyone should get credit, it's that woman who was arrested for being on the bus or something
08:37 <GodTodd> she gets credit
08:37 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
08:37 <Hoax-> catholic priests ftw?
08:37 <Stewie-arma> not even her
08:38 <GodTodd> it was rosa parks and it was *where* on the bus she was
08:38 <Stewie-arma> tons of people had done that same thing before her, just they weren't women...
08:38 <GodTodd> and it's not that she was trying to make a statement even
08:38 <GodTodd> she didn't move because her feet hurt
08:38 <Stewie-arma> she just didn't want to get up
08:38 <Hoax-> lazy cow
08:38 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:38 <luke-jr> lol
08:39 <Stewie-arma> I'll tell you why her feet hurt
08:39 <Stewie-arma> cause she was walking around outside...
08:39 <GodTodd> harriet beecher stowe deserves more credit
08:39 <Stewie-arma> she shoulda been back in the kitchen, shit.
08:39 <Hoax-> haha
08:39 <Hoax-> when will they learn oO
08:40 <Stewie-arma> I dunno, the fucked shit up in the French Revolution also...
08:40 <Hoax-> lets not get started on france
08:40 <GodTodd> luke-jr, probably liked malcolm x
08:40 <GodTodd> heh
08:40 <Stewie-arma> rofl, I have a bind in tremulous "RUN FRENCHMAN!!!"
08:41 <luke-jr> GodTodd: who/what?
08:41 <Stewie-arma> anyways I g2g sleepy sleep
08:42 <GodTodd> you don't even know about malcolm x?
08:42 <GodTodd> were you homeschooled or what?
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08:42 <luke-jr> is it a person or thin?
08:42 <luke-jr> thing*
08:42 <luke-jr> or event?
08:42 <GodTodd> it's a person that was born not too far from where you are now
08:42 <GodTodd> heh
08:43 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X
08:51 <luke-jr> spidey's AI declared war on me
08:51 <spidey> you're gonna get pwnt
08:52 <luke-jr> haha
08:52 <luke-jr> already pwning it
08:52 <GodTodd> i think that's a given, spidey
08:52 <GodTodd> :D
08:52 <luke-jr> it doesn't how howitizers yet
08:59 <spidey> #weather 38256
08:59 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 39.9°F (2:04 AM CST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Falling).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 9 am CST Tuesday...
09:00 <spidey> well
09:00 <spidey> i wonder if that's rain or hell i hear
09:00 <spidey> hail*
09:01 <luke-jr> 40⁇
09:01 <luke-jr> how'd it warm up that much?
09:04 <spidey> dunno
09:04 <spidey> weird huh
09:04 <spidey> 14F yesterday
09:04 <spidey> 40F today
09:04 <spidey> wait
09:04 <spidey> wasn't it like 12 last night?
09:04 <spidey> i forget
09:04 <luke-jr> yeah
09:11 <luke-jr> spidey: civ?
09:11 <luke-jr> Vanhayes:
09:11 <luke-jr> GodTodd:
09:12 <spidey> i just got done
09:12 <Vanhayes> no
09:12 <Vanhayes> #night
09:12 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
09:13 <spidey> luke-jr, you can join the one i'm playing though
09:13 <luke-jr> spidey: so new game?
09:13 <spidey> :D
09:13 <GodTodd> luke-jr, once again i must remind you that if you are in a game i'm not playing
09:13 <luke-jr> GodTodd: civ?
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09:13 <GodTodd> luke-moron, no
09:13 <spidey> GodTodd, should have played earlier today
09:13 <spidey> was just me mom hayes and luci
09:14 <GodTodd> yeah...had other stuff to do tho :/
09:14 <spidey> luke-jr, wtfhax.net:5556
09:15 <luke-jr> spidey: new?
09:15 <spidey> ugh
09:15 <spidey> lemme save first
09:15 <spidey> alright it's running "new"
09:16 <luke-jr> ok
09:16 <luke-jr> so that's 3 players so far
09:16 <luke-jr> wanna ask Luci?
09:16 <spidey> doubt it, think he has stuff to do
09:17 <luke-jr> hm
09:17 <luke-jr> P4: ?
09:17 <luke-jr> xfroggy: ?
09:38 <luke-jr> haha, spidey's AI is begging for mercy
09:38 <luke-jr> :DS
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10:00 <luke-jr> hi z-man
10:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7580 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/tools/tMemManager.cpp: Earlier mutex locking. Eek, there is lots of communication using global variables.
10:23 <luke-jr> hm
10:24 <luke-jr> when/if we finally get XMPP support, we should throw players in here as a lobby ;)
10:24 <luke-jr> basically a chat during master server browser
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11:25 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: back, you want say I update that script. send us that link again.
11:27 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/download/
11:27 <luke-jr> the real topic was getting the other CT servers on it :þ
11:28 <luke-jr> /msg me short-name and long-name for each one that isn't already ☺
11:32 <eddiefantastic> it's only really flower sumo and ctwf at the mo
11:33 <eddiefantastic> catfight and dogfight are so rarely used it's not worth it
11:33 <eddiefantastic> argh, I have that dns issue with that site :(
11:34 <eddiefantastic> you have the full path I will wget it from the servers
11:35 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: I think someone mentioned a ctf or such
11:35 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: can you help me fix the DNS issue?
11:36 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/download/sendstats.pl.r780.bz2 is latest
11:37 <eddiefantastic> I'll have a go at the dns issue, I'm no master of the ins and outs of dns though
11:38 <eddiefantastic> it's all machines on my network at use the same dns that have the problem. If I switch to a different dns it is fine
11:39 <eddiefantastic> But I don't want to do that as I have network services running and restarting them will cause me grief
11:39 <luke-jr> o
11:40 <eddiefantastic> it's an internal w2k server running the dns btw :S
11:40 <luke-jr> i c
11:43 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: what's your game name again?
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11:47 <luke-jr> #rating flex
11:47 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 992nd with a rating of 1485-1523 (from 1510-1553)
11:48 <luke-jr> ow
11:48 <eddiefantastic> ct-eddie
11:48 <luke-jr> #rating ct-eddie
11:48 <luke-jr> #rating2 ct-eddie ctwf
11:48 <luke-jr> #rating2 ct-eddie ed
11:48 <armabot> luke-jr: ct-eddie is 1093rd with a rating of 1476-1581 (from 1477-1580)
11:48 <armabot> luke-jr: ct-eddie is 444th with a rating of 1263-1529 (from 1263-1528) on ctwf
11:48 <eddiefantastic> I fixed my dns issue btw
11:48 <armabot> luke-jr: ct-eddie is 43rd with a rating of 1491-1617 (from 1492-1616) on ed
11:49 <eddiefantastic> added working dns as a dns forwarder
11:49 <eddiefantastic> it resolves now
11:50 <eddiefantastic> but before was a default w2k server setup, so that should have worked too
11:50 <eddiefantastic> the only known site that had troubles was yours
11:50 <luke-jr> hm
11:51 <eddiefantastic> it uses these root hints http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/DNS_root_hints.htm
11:52 <eddiefantastic> to find dns servers
11:52 <eddiefantastic> they get updated automatically, I'd make sure you worked on them
11:52 <luke-jr> should
11:53 <eddiefantastic> hasn't worked for me in months
11:53 <luke-jr> bug in Win2k maybe ☺
11:54 <eddiefantastic> perhaps, but why only your site, and why are others reporting the same thing?
11:54 <luke-jr> no clue
11:55 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft's problem is packet loss
11:57 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: are you *nix?
11:58 <eddiefantastic> I use both, the dns server is w2k
11:58 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: dig ratings.armagetronad.net +trace
11:58 <luke-jr>  & pastebin
12:01 <eddiefantastic> ah, here's the problem, none of my linux servers use our internal dns
12:01 <eddiefantastic> and they're busy doing their thing, I can't change them
12:02 <eddiefantastic> I keep them seperate where possible, windows has a tendancy to break stuff
12:02 <luke-jr> dig ratings.armagetronad.net +trace @internal-dns
12:03 <flex> #aka flex
12:03 <armabot> flex: ¿215 flex kinky4u hoax_>_fle hoax_>_flex_l>
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12:08 <eddiefantastic> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> ratings.armagetronad.net +trace
12:08 <eddiefantastic> ;; global options:  printcmd
12:08 <eddiefantastic> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
12:08 <eddiefantastic> that's using it's normal dns that works
12:08 <eddiefantastic> I can ping it happily rom there
12:08 <luke-jr> uh
12:08 <luke-jr> that's impossible XD
12:09 <eddiefantastic> works without +trace
12:09 <luke-jr> that suggests your DNS server is horribly broken
12:10 <flex> ed, come to flower power so i can leach some of your rating :p
12:10 <luke-jr> flex: his rating sucks more than yours
12:10 <luke-jr> #rating2 flex ed
12:10 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 57th with a rating of 1475-1628 (from 1476-1627) on ed
12:10 <luke-jr> #rating ct-eddie
12:10 <luke-jr> #rating flex
12:11 <armabot> luke-jr: ct-eddie is 1093rd with a rating of 1476-1581 (from 1477-1580)
12:11 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 992nd with a rating of 1485-1523 (from 1510-1553)
12:11 <flex> oh
12:11 <flex> lol
12:12 <luke-jr> though
12:12 <eddiefantastic> http://crazy-tronners.com/ladders_new.php?server=flowersumo&player=ct-eddie&gridbuddy=flex
12:12 <eddiefantastic> oh crap :(
12:12 <luke-jr> he does have a higher potential
12:12 <luke-jr> so it might help
12:12 <flex> lol
12:13 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: mayhem and sumo assault?
12:13 <eddiefantastic> mayhem hasn't been up in months
12:13 <luke-jr> o
12:16 <flex> whats that about
12:16 <flex> grid buddies?
12:17 <eddiefantastic> how many times I've killed you and you've killed me
12:19 <eddiefantastic> http://pastebin.com/d6c4fc419
12:19 <eddiefantastic> it works with internal dns
12:20 <eddiefantastic> which is now fixed
12:20 <eddiefantastic> you want say I break it again?
12:23 <luke-jr> O.o?
12:23 <luke-jr> dig ratings.aa.dashjr.org. +trace @
12:25 <eddiefantastic> http://pastebin.com/d17439bed
12:31 <luke-jr> fixed how?
12:32 <eddiefantastic> 10:54 < eddiefantastic> added working dns as a dns forwarder
12:32 <eddiefantastic> on the dns server that is
12:32 <luke-jr> …
12:32 <luke-jr> hardly a fix :þ
12:32 <eddiefantastic> well it works :)
12:32 <luke-jr> for you
12:33 <eddiefantastic> like I say, I'll break it if you like
12:33 <luke-jr> ok
12:34 <luke-jr> then do both traces again
12:43 <eddiefantastic> http://pastebin.ca/868351
12:43 <eddiefantastic> it's resolving there, but not from this here windows pc
12:44 <luke-jr> 2nd one
12:44 <luke-jr> o
12:44 <luke-jr> try anyway
12:44 <luke-jr> dig ratings.aa.dashjr.org. +trace @
12:45 <eddiefantastic> http://pastebin.ca/868354
12:45 <luke-jr> so anyhow
12:45 <luke-jr> that's an odd windoze bug
12:46 <eddiefantastic> let me try something, I have an ubuntu vm here somewhere I can test on
12:48 <eddiefantastic> it's an odd ubuntu bug too then
12:49 <luke-jr> O.o
12:49 <luke-jr> ubuntu has dig :D
12:51 <eddiefantastic> pastebin.ca/868358
12:52 <eddiefantastic> that machine using the internal dns
12:54 <eddiefantastic> I can ping ratings.aa.dashjr.org btw
12:55 <eddiefantastic> not beta.armagetronad.net though, which is one reason I never use the official resorce repo
13:06 <luke-jr> how about r.aa.dashjr.org ?
13:06 <luke-jr> dig it first
13:10 <eddiefantastic> 868378
13:13 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: what was the command to start this sendstats thing again?
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13:16 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: tail -Fn0 ladderlog.txt | ./sendstats.pl USER PASS
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13:22 <eddiefantastic> you should be getting sme now
13:23 <eddiefantastic> maybe not
13:23 <eddiefantastic> Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be 4 at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i586-linux-thread-multi/Socket.pm line 373.
13:23 <luke-jr> O.o
13:23 <luke-jr> does the old ver work?
13:23 <luke-jr> maybe DNS error?
13:24 <eddiefantastic> looks like it
13:25 <eddiefantastic> this as a vm, nothing to do with my network
13:26 <luke-jr> :\
13:27 <luke-jr> how is a vm online then?
13:28 <eddiefantastic> a virtual server even
13:28 <eddiefantastic> vps you might say
13:28 <luke-jr> even a vps needs a network
13:29 <eddiefantastic> how is it not online? I'm confused
13:29 <eddiefantastic> anyway, I don't think it is dns
13:29 <eddiefantastic> ping ratings.armagetronad.net
13:29 <eddiefantastic> PING hachi.dashjr.org ( 56(84) bytes of data.
13:29 <eddiefantastic> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=149 ms
13:29 <eddiefantastic> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=153 ms
13:29 <eddiefantastic> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=150 ms
13:30 <eddiefantastic> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=6 ttl=48 time=150 ms
13:30 <eddiefantastic> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=7 ttl=48 time=149 ms
13:30 <eddiefantastic> --- hachi.dashjr.org ping statistics ---
13:30 <eddiefantastic> 7 packets transmitted, 5 received, 28% packet loss, time 15155ms
13:30 <eddiefantastic> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 149.594/150.821/153.000/1.232 ms
13:30 <eddiefantastic> slow, with packet loss
13:30 <luke-jr> that ping seems logical for where you are
13:30 <luke-jr> packet loss is bad
13:30 <luke-jr> got mtr?
13:31 <eddiefantastic> maybe, if I knew what is was
13:32 <luke-jr> ping + tracepath
13:32 <luke-jr> I just setup a ns3.dashjr.org in Europe
13:32 <luke-jr> maybe that will help
13:35 <eddiefantastic> you getting anything from ctwf now?
13:37 <luke-jr> yes
13:37 <luke-jr> nothing on flower toh
13:38 <eddiefantastic> .flower
13:38 <eddiefantastic> tronner isn't here huh?
13:39 <eddiefantastic> #serv -v flower
13:39 <eddiefantastic> and I can't just make commands up for armabot?
13:40 <madmax> #sd -v flower
13:40 <armabot> madmax: Flower Power Sumo Assault ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080114 unix dedic, url: http://crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Standard Sumo Physics. 4 outer zone pods of up to 4 players. After 40 seconds all "alive" zones will move to centre of the arena. You then have 10 seconds of invulnerability to get to the centre zones where the final round battle starts.“, Players (3/12): (1 more message)
13:41 <eddiefantastic> I haven't had any errors on flower, and there's people playing there
13:42  * madmax was just there moments ago
13:42 <eddiefantastic> thanks madmax, must update that description
13:42 <madmax> np
13:42 <luke-jr> seems to be up now
13:42 <eddiefantastic> must have been a network blip
13:42 <eddiefantastic> that's using the old script, I'll try the new one
13:43 <eddiefantastic> connected successfully at ./sendstats.pl line 70, <SOCK> line 2.
13:43 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: I think you have some network issues
13:45 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: me?
13:45 <luke-jr> run mtr
13:48 <eddiefantastic> madmax I fixed that non transpoting bug you had
13:48 <eddiefantastic> it was because your name was a number
13:48 <madmax> oh, cool
13:48 <eddiefantastic> it was trying to respawn player number 0 not player name 0
13:49 <eddiefantastic> if there's an admin around trying to kick player 0, you might get kicked with a name like that
13:50 <luke-jr> lol
13:51 <luke-jr> no
13:51 <luke-jr> since his username is 'o'
13:52 <eddiefantastic> the username was 10
13:52 <eddiefantastic> so command issued was "respawn_player 10"
13:53 <eddiefantastic> well, actually it was "respawn_player 1o"
13:53 <eddiefantastic> but would somehow respawn another, not him
13:53 <luke-jr> buggy ed-code :D
13:54 <eddiefantastic> hehe
13:54 <eddiefantastic> anyway, it uses only name now
13:58 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: another day perhaps, I have work to do.
13:58 <eddiefantastic> flower sumo and ctwf both working now?
13:59 <luke-jr> think so
14:05 <eddiefantastic> ok, bye. Good luck with fixing your network :)
14:06 <luke-jr> you have yet to demonstrate it is a problem on my side ☺
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14:33 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7581 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (5 files in 2 dirs): clean out unmaintained versions
14:35 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7582 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (12 files in 2 dirs): clean out unmaintained versions
14:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7583 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/Manifest: update Manifest
14:55 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7584 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (Manifest files/digest-armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561): update Manifest
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15:17 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7585 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/Manifest: clean Manifest
15:23 <vinavil> luke-jr, it seems we are in two since you have the time to look for the chennels i am in :)
15:23 <luke-jr> ⁇
15:24 <vinavil> luke-jr: lonely?
15:24 <luke-jr> u
15:25 <vinavil> what about my loneliness then?
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15:28 <vinavil> zmanuel, is it possible to include SCORE_SURVIVE and FORTRESS_HELD_SCORE to
15:28 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
15:28 <z-man> Hmm, hasn't wrtl already merged those?
15:30 <vinavil> i do not know what wrtl did, but you proposed SCORE_SURVIVE time ago and i'll add FORTRESS_HELD_SCORE, if they are already in the work, well, even better
15:30 <z-man> No, doesn't seem so. Can you post it on the forum thread? I tend to forget things requested on IRC.
15:30 <vinavil> ok, shall i post in dev section?
15:30 <z-man> Especially since I have no idea what FORTRESS_HELD_SCORE is supposed to do :)
15:30 <z-man> yeah, on the 0.2.8 beta thread, if you like
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15:35 <z-man> ady666: where on the forum?
15:43 <spidey> #weather 38256
15:43 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 36.0°F (8:48 AM CST on January 22, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling).
15:44 <vinavil> lol, it warns me everytime anybody check weather. why did i choose rain as nick?
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16:08 <guru3> wooo post 0x1400!
16:10 <z-man> that's nnot a very special number :)
16:10 <guru3> but it has two zeros!
16:12 <z-man> Ok, and only 2 set bits, I give you that.
16:12 <z-man> but 0x1800 would at least be a little more special.
16:14 <guru3> that would be...
16:15 <guru3> a large number in decimal >_<
16:15 <z-man> Umm, the following commit message can probably be misunderstood.
16:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7586 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/ (tools/tMemManager.cpp tools/tMemManager.h tron/gGame.cpp): Reduced number of mutex lock points in memory manager to 2; eliminated information passing over global variables.
16:16 <guru3> it's a bit more fundamental than that z-man, i'm stuck at "understood"
16:16 <z-man> I hope that does not sound as if I added some global variables :)
16:20 <guru3> merging databases :<
16:30 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7587 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Added authentication hash method query; the server now picks a method client, server and authority support (or gives up).
16:36 <z-man> you're really trying to do that?
16:37 <guru3> not really
16:37 <guru3> the idea sort of makes me cry
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16:38 <guru3> the different apps all want to keep track of different data
16:52 <madmax> #m eddiefantastic another 'BUG'. on the round end, 2 players alive, one of them won apparently with no reason (wasn't eradicated/killed)
16:52 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
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16:58 <flex> :* epsy
16:58 <flex> lal
16:58 <epsy> ?
16:58 <flex> nothin
17:03 <eddiefantastic> madmax: you sure one of the players hadn't let his zone collapse?
17:05 <madmax> if the center zone collapses soon enough, the player is left alive? if so, maybe it was that
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17:05 <eddiefantastic> yes, it does that. if a zone collapses with no enemies present in the zone, the player survives
17:06 <eddiefantastic> I have a script to kill them manually, but it's not there yet
17:07 <vinavil> flex: what did i have to do, i cannot remember
17:07 <madmax> but the zone of the other player was still there...
17:07 <vinavil> epsy: the server seems to be working very well actually, thanks
17:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Lucifer_bed
17:08 <epsy> vinavil, i didn't touch anything since yesterday lol
17:08 <eddiefantastic> 2 players, 2 zones, round ended?
17:09 <madmax> can't be sure if the zone already collapsed a lot earlier, but yeah
17:09 <vinavil> epsy: i love arma servers
17:10 <epsy> :P
17:10 <luke-jr> guru3: probably easier to have them move to ArmaAuth at the same time
17:10 <luke-jr> z-man: btw, why did you split up authority early on? that makes everything much harder ☹
17:10 <vinavil> epsy: are we ready for !help or !config? i have some free time actually
17:10 <epsy> if you want
17:10 <madmax> btw vinavil, that rubber 2 only lasted a round :-P
17:10 <vinavil> lol, i'm sorry
17:11 <vinavil> but i can set it standard if you promise to play there more :)
17:11 <z-man> luke-jr: split? how did I split anything?
17:11 <luke-jr> z-man: well, added authority alongside username
17:11 <vinavil> epsy: what do you prefer to work on?
17:11 <epsy> !help :P
17:11 <luke-jr> z-man: instead of keeping username in the form 'foo@bar'
17:11 <luke-jr> and splitting at the implementation
17:11 <madmax> vinavil: the surrounding circle was a good idea, no place to run
17:12 <z-man> ah, that's not really a final format :)
17:12 <z-man> I haven't touched the ePlayer part of authentication yet, really.
17:12 <vinavil> madmax: indeed and also waiting for players and maybe playing with bots is less annoying
17:12 <z-man> You can log in, but apart from getting the authority string and the flag set, there is no effect :)
17:13 <vinavil> even if i think there is no bot actually, lol
17:13 <vinavil> i'll put it
17:13 <vinavil> epsy: come to #vinavil
17:16 <flex> vinavil, I think you were going to clean up the cockpit
17:17 <flex> and also publish your latest version(s) :p
17:19 <vinavil> ohhhh, the cockpit, yeah. i'll do this night
17:19 <flex> vinavil, once you release your final version I'll change mine to include fastest and brake if you decide to remove those in your final release, then you can leave two final releases there
17:22 <vinavil> flex: i refuse fastest, it is not essential and childish, i'll find a way to add brake in toggle mode
17:22 <flex> lol, ok
17:23 <flex> childish? lol how :p
17:33  * luke-jr encourages Aussies to get playing Arma with his new specials: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org ☺
17:41 <guru3> luke-jr: about how many servers are you hosting for $$?
17:42 <luke-jr> guru3: about 10
17:42 <guru3> you're probably making more money than the entire project :<
17:42 <luke-jr> haha, maybe ignoring expenses
17:42 <guru3> you at least have a cashflow
17:43 <luke-jr> and/or if they were all at my current rates
17:43 <luke-jr> guru3: indeed, hopefully someday the community will grow to where I can actually hire the whole dev team full time ☺
17:43 <luke-jr> funding the project full time would be the ultimate ideal ☺
17:43  * guru3 nods
17:44 <luke-jr> hence my interest in buying ads for arma :þ
17:44 <guru3> ah yeah about that
17:44 <guru3> bad idea
17:45 <guru3> seems like dreamhost can't handle that sort of traffic
17:45 <luke-jr> I noticed, from some reviews ;)
17:45 <luke-jr> I do know a cheap webhost that can handle slashdotting tho
17:46 <guru3> tell me in a year when our hosting is up -_-
17:46 <luke-jr> heh
17:46 <luke-jr> well, apparently if we were to push Dreamhost's hosting beyond their capabilities they refund ;)
17:46 <luke-jr> lol
17:47 <guru3> Oo
17:47 <luke-jr> did you see the review/rant I linked you?
17:47 <luke-jr> he was actually using 50% of the promised bandwidth ;)
17:47 <guru3> yeah
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17:51 <luke-jr> guru3: well, think we can setup a mirror for when/if I buy the ad?
17:51 <guru3> could probably use the sourceforge hosting for it
17:51 <luke-jr> hm
17:51 <guru3> or find something
17:51 <luke-jr> wonder if SF can handle that much traffic
17:54 <luke-jr> hey, vinavil is one of those rare TRON movie fans
17:55 <vinavil> :)
17:55 <luke-jr> he knows what a bit is!
17:56 <luke-jr> anyhow
17:56 <luke-jr> do we have any good marketing ppl?
17:56 <luke-jr> that would be another thing needed if I buy advertising
17:57 <luke-jr> no point paying for ads to be shown if the ads don't appeal
18:01 <flex> you're talking about graphical designs?
18:01 <luke-jr> yeah
18:01 <flex> I'm sure a contest for the best banner or something can be done
18:01 <flex> on the forums or something
18:01 <luke-jr> well, this would be more like 640x480 ☺
18:02 <luke-jr> or rather, a full size webpage that scales well
18:02 <luke-jr> good idea for the contest tho
18:03 <flex> yeah graphic contests are good
18:03 <luke-jr> that just leaves me to save up enough $ for the ads and high-traffic hosting
18:05 <flex> well if it's for the game and not personal gain then I guess donations should be set up :p
18:06 <flex> Can someone tell me how I can reverse this bar from going left to right, to going right to left
18:06 <flex> http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5641/barconvert001bz3.jpg
18:06 <flex> http://pastebin.com/f417447ac
18:07 <luke-jr> flex: guru3 gets donations, but … nobody donates :o
18:08 <flex> maybe a good idea would be to add it to the main page, as a menu link
18:08 <flex> or something
18:09 <flex> but I was thinking more of a campaign donation and not exactly a general donation
18:09 <flex> you know, towards the marketing thingy
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18:10 <luke-jr> flex: hm
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18:10 <luke-jr> guru3: check out flex's ideas :þ
18:10 <guru3> i was just thinking about a campaign the other day
18:10 <guru3> but like, we have a donation link
18:10 <guru3> everywhere
18:11 <flex> haha :p
18:11 <flex> but yeah, sounds good
18:11 <flex> if it's a campaign nobody can say you're forcing it on everyone
18:11 <guru3> the main page has a link at the bottom
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18:11 <guru3> the wiki... had one
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18:11 <guru3> i'm pretty sure the forums has one
18:12 <eddiefantastic> flex: <Reverse value="true"/>
18:12 <flex> ty
18:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7588 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Improved password entry form, all forms of canceling are recognized, failed automatic logins are repeated automatically.
18:13 <luke-jr> guru3: I think the menu item sounds like a good idea
18:13 <luke-jr> and like flex said/implied, if people know a specific goal it's for, they might be more willing to donate
18:14 <guru3> we have no goal right now
18:14 <guru3> hosting's paid thru like march next year from all the donations i'd collected up to the point before i got it
18:14 <luke-jr> eg "advertising" or such
18:36 <spidey_> eg "PRESS TURN DONE" or die
18:44 <spidey_> this is for luke
18:44 <spidey_> Q: Who wrote this fucking gay ass FAQ anyways?
18:44 <spidey_> A: Jesus did, we were sitting around one night smoking some crack and I told his Jesus if you want to continue sleeping on my couch, your ass needs to get a job. Jesus, then told me, how about I write the myg0t FAQ instead. I told Jesus, throw in a hand job and you got yourself a deal. The rest is history.
18:47 <vinavil> it could have been more funny
18:52 <flex> myg0t is still alive?
18:52 <spidey_> i guess
18:52 <spidey_> the site's still up
18:52 <flex> they're stupid..
18:52 <spidey_> lol yea
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18:56 <z-man> gaa, concurrency is hell
18:57 <luke-jr> O.o
18:57 <z-man> the authentication checks themselves are no problem
18:57 <z-man> but the interaction with the game is
18:57 <z-man> suppose someone initiates a login, then leaves the server, and another one takes his place....
18:58 <z-man> We have no real way to track different users o the same numeric ID right now.
18:58 <luke-jr> how do kick polls handle it?
18:58 <z-man> They use the traditional asyncroneous approach.
18:58 <luke-jr> ?
18:59 <z-man> There is a state object somewhere, and every time a message regarding the poll arrives, the state is updated.
18:59 <luke-jr> O.o
18:59 <z-man> and as soon as enough votes are there, the player is kicked.
18:59 <epsy> i seen an issue with kick votes yesterday
18:59 <z-man> Well, how else would they work?
19:00 <epsy> someone who kept reconnecting and voting against a poll which was going to kick him
19:00 <luke-jr> z-man: when someone leaves, they handle that fine
19:01 <z-man> luke-jr: yeah, they react to that message.
19:01 <z-man> epsy: did it have an effect? :)
19:01 <z-man> apart from the annoyance, of course.
19:02 <epsy> the effect of the poll being rejected
19:02 <epsy> after the 10th time he reconnected
19:02 <vinavil> oh, another request, can we make a "reason" field required to send a poll? and also that when you vote there is not "do not mind" but "agree" or "disagree", with disagree as default and the game should stop like it does with message_of_the_day printing about the poll, the reason and the game doesn't start untill everyone voted. what do you think?
19:02 <epsy> (10th -> arbitrary number)
19:03 <luke-jr> I think I should be allowed to abstain from voting without it bugging me every fscking round
19:03 <epsy> vinavil, no
19:03 <luke-jr> epsy: try 'nth'
19:03 <epsy> luke-jr, :)
19:03 <vinavil> that when it is not you the noob being kicked
19:04 <luke-jr> IIRC, there's a server option to prevent kick poll voting in the first N seconds of connecting
19:04 <luke-jr> or at least issuing a poll
19:04 <luke-jr> maybe it needs to extend to votes
19:04 <epsy> vinavil, i prefer sometimes waiting next round before kicking (or not ) somone
19:04 <K-Yo> vinavil, "the game doesn't start untill everyone voted" certainly not!!
19:05 <flex> reason should be added, I agree
19:05 <epsy> fullscreen message either
19:05 <K-Yo> reason why not
19:05 <epsy> but reason ftw
19:06 <epsy> also, if it would be possible to call a « message » or « team message » vote
19:06 <epsy> that would be neat too heh
19:06  * beta|AoS| is a noob
19:07  * epsy agrees $[120/5*2]%
19:07  * madmax polls beta|AoS| 
19:07  * z-man does not listen too much to feature requests on IRC because he a) forgets them anyway and b) doesn't understand them because IRC is too chaotic.
19:07 <epsy> haha :D
19:07 <vinavil> if you were that noob you would like to know the reason and to be voted not just by players who do not mind (because actually players vote yes everytime even if they do not know what is it about, because "do not mind" it is not the same as abstain, indeed it proposes you to vote everyround)
19:08  * epsy votes against poll "kick beta|AoS|"
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19:08  * epsy votes against poll "kick beta|AoS|"
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19:08  * epsy votes against poll "kick beta|AoS|"
19:08 <madmax> o_O
19:08 <epsy> that's a bit like what i seen the other day
19:09  * z-man especially does not follow feature request discussions whe had that one way or another on the forum.
19:09 <madmax> that works?
19:09 <epsy> apparently
19:09 <flex> how did it go on the forum?
19:09 <vinavil> actually do not mind isn't abstain, but tell me about it next match. of course a 3rd option with abstain can be added.
19:09 <epsy> btw the guy who did that got a ban :P
19:09 <flex> why would anyone disagree to adding "reason" on votes
19:09 <beta|AoS|> Poll for beta|AoS| has been accepted
19:09  * beta|AoS| left team #armagetron
19:10 <epsy> beta|AoS|, actually it would not
19:10 <epsy> *be
19:10 <K-Yo> .ls plastik
19:10 <beta|AoS|> ><
19:10 <beta|AoS|> I know !
19:10 <epsy> K-Yo, ouais lui
19:10  * beta|AoS| slaps epsy and K-Yo 
19:10 <K-Yo> #lastseen plastik
19:10 <armabot> K-Yo: Plastik has last been seen on SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] 20 hours 26 minutes ago.
19:10 <K-Yo> #lastseen plastik
19:10 <armabot> K-Yo: Plastik has last been seen on SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] 20 hours 26 minutes ago.
19:10 <luke-jr> #rating plastik
19:10 <K-Yo> oops
19:10 <armabot> luke-jr: plastik is 1265th with a rating of 1463-1672 (from 1450-1680)
19:10 <K-Yo> he rules
19:11 <K-Yo> #rating cttk-yo
19:11 <flex> #rating me
19:11 <armabot> K-Yo: cttk-yo is 117th with a rating of 1612-1653 (from 1618-1667)
19:11 <armabot> flex: me is 1513th with a rating of 1441-1497 (from 1449-1506)
19:11 <K-Yo> :p
19:11 <flex> #rating armabot
19:11 <epsy> #rating armabot
19:11 <vinavil> what is rating?
19:11 <K-Yo> cu all bon appetit
19:11 <epsy> pff
19:11 <armabot> flex: armabot is 5146th with a rating of 1150-1850
19:11 <flex> lol
19:11 <armabot> epsy: armabot is 5146th with a rating of 1150-1850
19:11 <luke-jr> lol
19:11 <K-Yo> armabot, you suck
19:11 <flex> #rating nas
19:11 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'nas'!
19:11 <luke-jr> vinavil: skill
19:12 <epsy> #tea
19:12 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): .:] flash, /=\, buGzi, G@Y @$$ HOLE, Goodygumdrops, hoop, Petrus, ~"XzL.PuNish
19:12 <epsy> bfff
19:12 <vinavil> haha
19:12 <luke-jr> #rating oorain
19:12 <madmax> go Goodygumdrops!
19:12 <armabot> luke-jr: oorain is 1012th with a rating of 1483-1581 (from 1484-1580)
19:12 <epsy> just for her
19:12 <epsy> #ss caf
19:12 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Team blue (52): Goodygumdrops (10), /=\ (4), .:] flash (2), ~|DS|~ Plage (0); Team gold (46): hoop (14), buGzi (2), G@Y @$$ HOLE (0), ushakov (0), ¦×¦epsy (0)
19:12 <vinavil> and what is it about?
19:12 <luke-jr> #rating hoop
19:12 <armabot> luke-jr: hoop is 126th with a rating of 1609-1633 (from 1583-1619)
19:12 <luke-jr> #rating |x|epsy
19:12 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|epsy is 452nd with a rating of 1541-1573 (from 1560-1597)
19:13 <epsy> madmax, you're petrus ?
19:13 <luke-jr> epsy: K-Yo has you beat
19:13 <luke-jr> well, probably
19:13 <madmax> i'm not even playing
19:13 <epsy> wrtlprnft, he got a damn fucking dyn ip
19:13 <epsy> :'(
19:13 <luke-jr> #rating madmax
19:13 <armabot> luke-jr: madmax is 220th with a rating of 1587-1623 (from 1590-1633)
19:14 <madmax> i think that thing gives more rating to LMS games than team ones
19:14 <vinavil> who is first? luke-jr? haha
19:14 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net
19:14 <luke-jr> madmax: it's more accurate with LMS, indeed, but it is aware of its accuracy too
19:15  * vinavil bets it is hosted on luke-jr's server
19:15 <luke-jr> madmax: as seen in the range
19:15 <madmax> we could get a betting system for #tea. we could bet on who has the highest score at a given time. and shame on cheaters of course
19:15 <flex> luke-jr, is there a specific round you have to play inorder to get on the list?
19:15 <luke-jr> flex: no
19:15 <flex> so why is my new names not being recorded :p
19:15 <luke-jr> #aka flex
19:15 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿215 flex kinky4u hoax_>_fle hoax_>_flex_l>
19:15 <luke-jr> flex: what new names?
19:16 <flex> #rating nas
19:16 <flex> that
19:16 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'nas'!
19:16 <luke-jr> 1. you need to play in a participating server
19:16 <flex> i did
19:16 <luke-jr> 2. you should enter with an existing name and rename in that server
19:16 <luke-jr> did you?
19:16  * luke-jr notes ed's servers were down earlier
19:16 <luke-jr> well, not down, but down-participating
19:17 <flex> well i don't want to share rating with my other names
19:17 <vinavil> lol
19:17 <vinavil> is there anybody still playing for the fun itself?
19:17 <flex> yes
19:17 <luke-jr> flex: -.-
19:17 <flex> #rating flex
19:17 <armabot> flex: flex is 999th with a rating of 1484-1523 (from 1510-1553)
19:17 <madmax> vinavil: absolutely
19:18 <flex> i wouldn't be 999th if it wasn't for fun :p
19:18 <luke-jr> flex: having two UIDs won't improve it
19:18 <vinavil> oh max, i had no doubt about you :D
19:18 <madmax> lol
19:18 <luke-jr> I enjoy improving my rating :þ
19:18 <flex> why wont it improve it?
19:19 <luke-jr> flex: because your skill is the same, and it will just float back to the same range
19:19 <flex> haha
19:19 <luke-jr> the only thing you can do to improve is play better
19:19 <luke-jr> and that will work regardless of an existing or new player
19:19 <flex> don't worry, as long as it's possible :p
19:20 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
19:20 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 502nd with a rating of 1534-1575 (from 1537-1573)
19:20 <luke-jr> eck, I need to play more :x
19:20 <madmax> does anyone have an idea on why irssi isn't able to hilight my nick if it is in the beginning of a line?
19:20 <flex> luke, i'm gona catch you and punch you down to 5000th
19:20  * luke-jr hides
19:20 <madmax> luke-jr: playing more won't do :-P
19:20 <luke-jr> madmax: playing more will make it more accurate
19:20 <madmax> so you'll go down?
19:20 <flex> yeah drop you down to 4k :p
19:20 <vinavil> lol
19:21 <luke-jr> and the practice aspect will make me better
19:21 <madmax> :-D
19:21 <luke-jr> which will make it go up ☺
19:21 <flex> £>
19:21 <luke-jr> note the rank is based on the LOWEST possible skill
19:21 <luke-jr> so more accurate is only up
19:21 <luke-jr> unless you lose skill
19:21 <flex> luke, i'm gona catch you and punch you down to 5000th
19:21 <luke-jr> flex: nope
19:21 <flex> yes
19:22 <luke-jr> flex: I play on US servers :D
19:22 <madmax> #lastseen luke-jr
19:22 <luke-jr> lol
19:22 <armabot> madmax: luke-jr has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 1 day 6 hours 54 minutes ago.
19:22 <luke-jr> that time didn't count ;x
19:22 <madmax> US server right there, er
19:22 <flex> lol
19:22 <vinavil> if i lose a skill, then where do i search to get it back?
19:22 <flex> i'm gona stalk you every hour :p
19:23 <vinavil> can i sell skills? how they are rated?
19:24 <luke-jr> …
19:24 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7589 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (Manifest armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561.ebuild): respect more LINGUAS flags
19:24 <luke-jr> vinavil: skill is rated based on who you kill and who kills you
19:24 <flex> luke-jr, I was like 400th and infa was like 100th we played on cafe for abit and he was defending purely.. and now he's 22ed or something..
19:24 <flex> how is that possible
19:24 <vinavil> if i find a skill on the street and i start using it before to clean it, am i a dirty? is that still regular?
19:25 <flex> i jumped him to the top 25?
19:25 <flex> #rating cafe |x|_infamous
19:25 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'cafe_|x|_infamous'!
19:25 <luke-jr> flex: shrug, more accurate?
19:25 <flex> #rating2 cafe |x|_infamous
19:25 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'cafe'!
19:26 <luke-jr> #rating |x|_infamous
19:26 <flex> #rating2 tea |x|_infamous
19:26 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_infamous is 22nd with a rating of 1680-1728 (from 1644-1700)
19:26 <luke-jr> #rating2 |x|_infamous cafe
19:26 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'tea'!
19:26 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_infamous is 3rd with a rating of 1676-1725 (from 1640-1697) on cafe
19:26 <flex> #rating flex cafe
19:26 <armabot> flex: I don't know anything about 'flex_cafe'!
19:26 <flex> #rating2 flex cafe
19:26 <armabot> flex: flex is 300th with a rating of 1462-1510 (from 1493-1557) on cafe
19:27 <vinavil> "armabot: flex: I don't know anything about 'tea'!" damn, where does it come from?
19:27 <luke-jr> …
19:27 <flex> it's milkshare for adults :p
19:27 <flex> milkshake
19:28 <K-Yo> epsy, <epsy> wrtlprnft, he got a damn fucking dyn ip <== ur wrong
19:28 <K-Yo> :p
19:29 <epsy> why?
19:29 <vinavil> so, if i get killed by a low rated player my rating go down in the pit?
19:29 <K-Yo> i don't have a dynamic ip
19:29 <epsy> K-Yo, cus you want to get a ban too?
19:29 <K-Yo> lol
19:29 <K-Yo> u weren't talking about ranks i guess... sry ><
19:29 <epsy> i was talking about the fucker wrtl banned
19:30 <K-Yo> ah
19:30 <K-Yo> he came back?
19:30 <luke-jr> vinavil: if he consistently kills you over and over, maybe
19:30 <epsy> ur like freako sometimes
19:30 <vinavil> that is awesome
19:30  * vinavil runs in game to get killed
19:30 <luke-jr> …
19:30 <luke-jr> vinavil: can I be the killer? :D
19:31 <luke-jr> plz
19:31 <luke-jr> plz
19:31 <luke-jr> plz
19:31 <K-Yo> no, me!
19:31 <luke-jr> >:O
19:31 <vinavil> of course, i'm in café
19:31 <K-Yo> i'm better in killing
19:31 <luke-jr> meh
19:31 <luke-jr> cafe is a pain
19:31 <luke-jr> there's teams
19:31 <luke-jr> go to eclisped :D
19:31 <vinavil> k-yo, you are too high rated
19:31 <K-Yo> shit
19:31 <K-Yo> #rating |<
19:31 <armabot> K-Yo: |< is 116th with a rating of 1612-1653 (from 1618-1667)
19:31 <K-Yo> shit
19:31 <luke-jr> vinavil: eclipsed?
19:32 <madmax> #sd -v eclipsed
19:32 <armabot> madmax: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “eclipsed” at the moment, sorry.
19:32 <vinavil> what is eclipsed?
19:32 <madmax> #sd -v eclipse
19:32 <armabot> madmax: .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan TRAINER :. ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080114 unix dedic, url: http://www.eclipse-d.org, Description: “Welcome to .EC|d Standard Settings. Medium Rubber and a custom map.“, No online players.
19:32 <luke-jr> flex: notice K-Yo's two names are both almost the same rating :þ
19:32 <luke-jr> madmax: not that one
19:32 <luke-jr> minus TRAINER
19:32 <madmax> erm
19:33 <luke-jr> vinavil: ok?
19:33 <K-Yo> always
19:33 <madmax> don't go! it's a trap!
19:33 <K-Yo> tsame on ctwf
19:33 <vinavil> ok wat?
19:33 <luke-jr> vinavil: Eclipse'd non-trainer
19:33 <luke-jr> (trainer is off-the-record/non-participate)
19:33 <vinavil> is it a server
19:34 <luke-jr> yes
19:34 <vinavil> im there
19:34 <K-Yo> #aka petrus
19:34 <K-Yo> #aka plastik
19:34 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'petrus'!
19:34 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿3312 plastik
19:35 <vinavil> nice server... lol...
19:36 <vinavil> is there a way to play, or it is just the title we are this clan bla bla
19:36 <vinavil> screen is black
19:37 <vinavil> do i down rate if i suicide?
19:39 <K-Yo> how can i get such a good ranking and sucking that much ><
19:39 <K-Yo> #help ss
19:39 <armabot> K-Yo: (ss <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverscores $*".
19:39 <K-Yo> #ss café
19:39 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Team gold (112): flex (16), /dev/null (14), ¦×¦epsy (12), Mikael (4), buGzi (4), hoop (4), cttK-Yo (2); Team blue (68): Luzifer (18), ~°~>(.)GluGGsel (10), CTT_rugkei (6), Goodygumdrops (6), the best girl 1 (4), Tom (0), fri (0)
19:39 <vinavil> #rating rain
19:39 <armabot> vinavil: rain is 531st with a rating of 1531-1576 (from 1536-1577)
19:40 <vinavil> lol
19:40 <epsy> K-Yo, fuck this isn't #crazy-tronners
19:41 <madmax> yeah, luke-jr is a digger.
19:44 <vinavil> #rating rain
19:44 <armabot> vinavil: rain is 584th with a rating of 1525-1570 (from 1536-1577)
19:44 <vinavil> lol, it works
19:44 <flex> #rating2 flex cafe
19:44 <armabot> flex: flex is 276th with a rating of 1473-1518 (from 1493-1557) on cafe
19:45 <vinavil> well, it is hard to get killed by luke, i need double attention
19:48 <vinavil> #rating rain
19:48 <armabot> vinavil: rain is 749th with a rating of 1507-1552 (from 1536-1577)
19:49 <vinavil> hahah
19:49 <K-Yo> lol epsy
19:50 <beta|AoS|> epsy !
19:51 <epsy> ...
19:52 <epsy> WHAT DID I FCKING SAY?
19:53 <g5vc> l o l
19:53 <vinavil> #rating rain
19:53 <armabot> vinavil: rain is 996th with a rating of 1485-1530 (from 1536-1577)
19:54 <madmax> hey, you're going down pretty good
19:54 <vinavil> yeah :D
19:54 -!- liberweesco is now known as libervisco
19:54 <beta|AoS|> K-Yo: don't hl epsy all the time...
19:54 <madmax> #rating luke-jr
19:54 <armabot> madmax: luke-jr is 500th with a rating of 1534-1575 (from 1537-1573)
19:55 <madmax> 502 -> 500
19:55 <epsy> looks like you want to be on my ignore list
19:56 <MrBougo> epsry is really pissed :o
19:57 <madmax> heh
19:58 <madmax>  /lastlog rocks
19:58 <vinavil> #rating rain
19:58 <armabot> vinavil: rain is 1244th with a rating of 1464-1509 (from 1536-1577)
19:58 <MrBougo> :O madmax
19:58 <MrBougo> IT DOES
19:59 <madmax> you use irssi too?
19:59 <MrBougo> nope, xchat
19:59 <madmax> xchat has that? x_x
19:59 <MrBougo> sure
19:59 <MrBougo> did you get a "test"?
20:00 <MrBougo> hehe
20:00 <MrBougo> it wasnt a ctcp
20:00 <MrBougo> it was a ctcp notice
20:00 <madmax> pfft
20:01 <flex> #lastseen luke-jr
20:01 <armabot> flex: luke-jr has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 1 day 7 hours 33 minutes ago.
20:02 <madmax> he was hiding under the name 'luke' :-P
20:02 <flex> #rating flex
20:02 <armabot> flex: flex is 820th with a rating of 1499-1535 (from 1510-1553)
20:02 <flex> yay improved by 100 :p
20:02 <flex> or 80 :p
20:02 <vinavil> you cannot beat me
20:02 <vinavil> #rating rain
20:02 <armabot> vinavil: rain is 1487th with a rating of 1444-1488 (from 1536-1577)
20:02 <flex> lol
20:03 <madmax> haha
20:03 <flex> it's actually lower the better rain
20:03 <flex> #lastseen luke
20:03 <armabot> flex: luke has last been seen on .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. 1 minute ago.
20:03 <madmax> that's what they want *you* to believe
20:04 <flex> #aka luke
20:04 <armabot> flex: ¿403 luke daniel dude
20:04 <luke-jr> #rating rain
20:04 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
20:04 <armabot> luke-jr: rain is 1564th with a rating of 1437-1481 (from 1536-1577)
20:04 <guru3> wow
20:04 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 501st with a rating of 1534-1575 (from 1537-1573)
20:04 <vinavil> :D
20:04 <luke-jr> #aka luke-jr
20:04  * guru3 has had an idea
20:05 <luke-jr> #rating oorain
20:05 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿8 praise_jesus luke-jr
20:05 <guru3> who wants to login to the forums with a key?
20:05 <armabot> luke-jr: oorain is 1016th with a rating of 1483-1581 (from 1484-1580)
20:05 <luke-jr> guru3: …
20:05 <flex> luke, lets settle it! come on and let me pwn you for abit
20:05 <luke-jr> oorain != rain⁉
20:05 <guru3> oh yeah i've been meaning to ask luke-jr what are the two blocks?
20:05 <vinavil> luke-jr: no
20:05 <luke-jr> epsy:
20:06 <flex> luke, lets settle it! come on and let me pwn you for abit
20:06 <luke-jr> ooo
20:06 <luke-jr> vinavil: was I playing under 'luke' all this time? ☹
20:06 <luke-jr> #rating luke
20:06 <armabot> luke-jr: luke is 57th with a rating of 1640-1724 (from 1204-1318)
20:06  * luke-jr stabs z-man
20:06 <vinavil> luke-jr: yes
20:06 <flex> lolol
20:06 <madmax> luke clearly cheats
20:06 <luke-jr> bad z-man, renaming me like that ☹
20:07 <madmax> he must have a special flag for 'luke*' in his rating system
20:07 <vinavil> anybody want to be position 1? i let you kill me till you reach it for 5 euro
20:07 <luke-jr> #rating rain
20:07 <armabot> luke-jr: rain is 1723rd with a rating of 1423-1467 (from 1536-1577)
20:07 <luke-jr> not sure it would help at this point
20:07 <luke-jr> lolo
20:08 <vinavil> the bots are gaining rate, lol
20:08 <madmax> #rating vim
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7590 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (Manifest armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561.ebuild): dedicated-only compat
20:08 <armabot> madmax: timed out
20:08 <madmax> :(
20:08 <deja_vu> #rating Quantumsquirrel
20:09 <luke-jr> try again in a minute
20:09 <luke-jr> it's committing the last RP
20:09 <armabot> deja_vu: timed out
20:09 <madmax> RP?
20:09 <luke-jr> rating period
20:09 <luke-jr> when official = live and time takes its toll
20:11 <vinavil> i need something with respawn, lol
20:11 <luke-jr> …
20:11 <deja_vu> #rating Quantumsquirrel
20:11 <armabot> deja_vu: quantumsquirrel is 490th with a rating of 1535-1581 (from 1537-1578)
20:11 <deja_vu> at least i'm in there now^^
20:12 <flex> lol
20:12 <vinavil> they say god is with you. if you have god, what would you trade him for?
20:12 <guru3> php can do RSA :o
20:13 <luke-jr> guru3: our browsers can't
20:13 <guru3> i was thinking instead of a password
20:13 <guru3> an upload key thing -_-
20:13 <vinavil> something crashed in arma
20:13 <guru3> just trying to imagine how/if that would work
20:13 <vinavil> the masters maybe?
20:14 <vinavil> in a while every full server was empty
20:14 <vinavil> and just one players online
20:14 <vinavil> player*
20:14 <vinavil> now 2
20:14 <vinavil> is it only me?
20:15 <luke-jr> vinavil: http://beta.armagetronad.net/fetch.php/PreResource/moviesounds_fq.zip
20:15 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/fetch.php/PreResource/moviepack.zip
20:16 <vinavil> ty
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7591 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/ (6 files in 2 dirs): respect more LINGUAS flags
20:17 <madmax> linguas? that has nothing to do with languages right?
20:17 <luke-jr> sure it does
20:18 <madmax> well, línguas is languages in portuguese
20:18 <luke-jr> …
20:18 <luke-jr> [ebuild   R   ] games-action/armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561  USE="opengl -auth -debug -dedicated* -moviepack -moviesounds" LINGUAS="en en_GB -de -en_US -es -fr" 0 kB ⚀
20:18 <K-Yo> haha beta|AoS|
20:18 <madmax> just wondering why it's that name
20:19 <vinavil> i love it, thank you luke
20:19 <luke-jr> madmax: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/linguas/index.html
20:19 <luke-jr> :D
20:19 <epsy> luke-jr, btw, if i do USE=dedicated it installs on new slot right?
20:19 <luke-jr> epsy: no, it compiles both and replaces the old install
20:20 <epsy> hm
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20:22 <wrtlprnft> epsy: maybe once we have more fine grained rights management i might add moderators to café, together with a script that sends me information about every kick (and the last 1000 or so log lines before it) and the restriction that moderators must specify a good reason for a kick
20:22 <epsy> ?
20:22 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: epsy already wrote scripts for fine-grained rights
20:22 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it uses INTERCEPT_COMMANDS
20:22 <epsy> heh
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20:24 <epsy> luke-jr, at that time i only wiped out conflicting commands and redirecting it to stdout :P
20:24 <wrtlprnft> i don't want to run too intrusive scripts on café
20:25 <luke-jr> epsy: it works with INTERCEPT_COMMANDS :þ
20:25 <epsy> luke-jr, now you edited it and stole it to me haha
20:25 <wrtlprnft> i'd especially prefer to leave arma's stdin alone
20:25 <luke-jr> epsy: tbh, I broke your code hacks with an upgrade and felt I had to replace them
20:25 <wrtlprnft> epsy: talking about that guy with a dynamic ip
20:25 <epsy> ah..
20:26 <luke-jr> cuz flex was paying for it back then
20:26 <luke-jr> :þ
20:26 <luke-jr> and that's the story behind INTERCEPT_COMMANDS ☺
20:26 <epsy> heh
20:26 <wrtlprnft> someone would pay for the couple of lines that make up INTERCEPT_COMMANDS?
20:26 <epsy> i was pretty sure i was behind your idea doing it at some point :p
20:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: eh?
20:27 <epsy> i think wrtlprnft meants about strpos :P
20:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: flex was hosting a server with me; epsy wrote the codebase his server used; I broke it, so INTERCEPT_COMMANDS was my rewrite to fix it
20:28 <luke-jr> epsy: IIRC, StrPos still works fine in all supported circumstances ☺
20:28 <epsy> INTERCEPT_COMMANDS /a/b
20:29 <luke-jr> that is not defined ☺
20:29 <epsy> yea, at least say that it's not in the settings's help text
20:29 <luke-jr> defined use is space delimited commands, where commands are defined as a / followed by any number of letters
20:29 <luke-jr> #armaconfig INTERCEPT
20:29 <armabot> luke-jr: Sorry, no matches :S
20:29 <luke-jr> does it even have help text? :x
20:30 <epsy> no
20:30 <luke-jr> lol
20:30 <wrtlprnft> armabot isn't up to date anyways
20:30 <luke-jr> meh
20:31 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw did that mean we'ill see you more often in café ? :P
20:33 <luke-jr> #aka luke
20:33 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿403 luke daniel dude
20:33  * luke-jr wonders if someone else was using that
20:37 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
20:40 <epsy> nvm
20:49 <spidey_> sooooo
20:50 <spidey_> telling a server admin to kiss your dick and goto hell = ban
20:50 <spidey_> xD
20:51 <MrBougo> what if he doesnt ban you and accepts
20:51 <spidey_> this one didn't
20:51 <MrBougo> awwww
20:51 <spidey_> i can't stand admins who think the world revolves around them
20:51 <MrBougo> great way to date spidey_
20:52 <MrBougo> you can have the world revolve around you
20:52 <MrBougo> just roll on the floor
20:52 <spidey_> hah
20:52 <spidey_> i'ma go get banned again, bbl
20:52 <MrBougo> hf
20:52 <luke-jr> lololo
20:55 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@182.222-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
21:00 <flex> lol
21:01 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@182.222-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
21:06 <epsy> spidey_, not the entire world, only their server
21:23 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@182.222-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
21:33 <Hoax-> flex u on a normal time pattern now?
21:33 <epsy> no, he's weird
21:33 <epsy> er..
21:33 <luke-jr> lol
21:33 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
21:34  * luke-jr is on Midnight - 3 PM
21:34 <Hoax-> What?
21:34 <Hoax-> wait...
21:34 <Hoax-> nothin.
21:34 <epsy> wait..
21:34 <epsy> is it safe?
21:34 <Hoax-> is what safe?
21:34 <Hoax-> tell me what the 'it' refers to.
21:34 <epsy> tell me what the 'it' refers to
21:34  * epsy searches an instant chat for that...
21:34 <Hoax-> a common typo
21:35 <epsy> * Legionnaire a a long and thin spaghetty
21:35 <epsy> er..
21:35 <Hoax-> call it..
21:35 <epsy> Exactly!
21:35 <Hoax-> Indeed!
21:35 <epsy> a common typo.
21:35 <Hoax-> Frenchellent.
21:35 <K-Yo> SPAMMERZ
21:35 <epsy> no no no, let me say it again
21:35 <Hoax-> You Phailed!
21:36 <epsy> Infuckingcredible!
21:36 <Hoax-> i don't know what you mean
21:37 <epsy> :)
21:37 <epsy> :(
21:37 <epsy> :D
21:37 <epsy> xD
21:37 <epsy> :P
21:37 <epsy> :d
21:37 <Hoax-> LOL!
21:37 <epsy> x)
21:37 <epsy> :}
21:37 <epsy> lol!
21:37 <Hoax-> :>
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle
21:37 <Hoax-> :|
21:37 <Hoax-> |:
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle -1
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle +1
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle -2
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle +2
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle -3
21:37 <epsy>  /shuffle +3
21:38  * epsy agrees $[120/5*2]%
21:38  * Hoax- agrees 100%
21:38 <epsy> http://suck.my.co.ck/
21:39 <epsy> * Hoax loves men *
21:39 <Hoax-> * FoFo aim les hommes*
21:40 <epsy> * Legheyounarie has a long and thin spaghetti *
21:41 <Hoax-> im all out tbh
21:42 <epsy> ok
21:42 <epsy> (that was an instant btw)
21:44 <Hoax-> arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf araf raf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf arf
21:44 <Hoax-> (your worst one ever -.-)
21:48 <luke-jr> take it somewhere else
21:50 <Hoax-> luke-jr, omg ren is going to kill L...how boring
21:50 <luke-jr> Hoax-: is she?
21:50 <luke-jr> ☺
21:50 <luke-jr> and it's Rem
21:50 <Hoax-> haha whatever
21:51 <flex> oh hoax is up :p
21:52 <Hoax-> :-/
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21:52 <flex> £>
21:53 <luke-jr> Hoax-: wait for the next episode
21:53 <luke-jr> L gets to play his card ☺
21:54 <Hoax-> heh, ok
21:54 <luke-jr> "Light's-dad, if I die in the next week, your son is Kira"
21:54 <Hoax-> flex <3 When did u get up?
21:54 <Hoax-> luke-jr lmao. Ok you can hush now :>
21:54 <luke-jr> :>
21:56 <luke-jr> "We've apprehended Amane Misa on suspicion of being the second Kira."
21:57  * luke-jr cackles
21:57 <Hoax-> "Also we'd like to issue a statement asking luke-jr to stfu releasing the plot line"
21:57 <Hoax-> I guess you missed that ep
21:58 <Hoax-> I always thought right....what if it ran out of paper? :D
21:58 <luke-jr> "I relinquish all ownership of this notebook." --Light
22:01 <luke-jr> "Light… we're both murderers; see you in hell." *BANG* -- Mr. Yagami, shooting Light
22:01 <luke-jr> Hoax-:
22:02 <Hoax-> What?
22:02 <Hoax-> wait...
22:02 <Hoax-> nothin.
22:02 <luke-jr> Hoax-: no?
22:03 <Hoax-> luke-jr what
22:03 <luke-jr> you didn't see what I quoted? :þ
22:03 <Hoax-> yeah
22:03 <Hoax-> your a funny fuck arn't you :D
22:04 <luke-jr> hehe, you think I'm making it up :D
22:05 <madmax> wait, wth was all that?
22:05 <luke-jr> lol
22:05 <madmax> they have instant chats for IRC now?
22:05 <luke-jr> ROFL
22:07 <luke-jr> /login test
22:07 <wrtlprnft> wow
22:07 <wrtlprnft> you can tell that luke was committing stuff
22:08 <flex> i thought you could make instant chats with scripts on mirc
22:11 <flex> Hoax, yeah I sorted it out :p wake up normal now :p
22:11 <flex> sooner or later it'll get fucked :p
22:11 <Hoax-> flex, you bastard
22:12 <Hoax-> well, just make sure you do :D
22:12 <flex> lol
22:12 <Hoax-> fuck it tbh
22:12 <flex> so we can be online with those young druggy americans on sumo :p
22:12 <flex> late night
22:12 <Hoax-> im gona stay up till 2moro night..then return to the normals
22:12 <Hoax-> hahaha
22:13 <Hoax-> braapp those kids dono tha first ting bout drugs u get me blud
22:13 <flex> haha
22:13 <flex> fo real dawg
22:13 <Hoax-> tbh I wish i could get the log & send it to their parents
22:13 <Hoax-> :D
22:14 <flex> their parents are probably crack heads
22:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?
22:15 <Hoax-> lol
22:17 <flex> hoax got my pm ?: :p
22:18 <luke-jr> Hoax-: you don't believe my quotes, do you? XD
22:18 <flex> hoax got my pm!?:p
22:18 <flex> hahahahah
22:18 <Hoax-> yes u noob
22:19 <Hoax-> lmao spurs are 3-0 against gooners
22:19 <luke-jr> yes what
22:19 <luke-jr> yes u do or yes u don't
22:19 <flex> haha are you on there hoax ?:p
22:19 <Hoax-> haha flex...i dont want to see ur mum at work mate
22:19 <Hoax-> :)
22:19 <luke-jr> …..
22:24 <beta|AoS|> brb
22:24 <luke-jr> …
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23:50 <madmax> #sd -v cafe
23:50 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080101 unix dedic, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (11/32): /dev/null, 400ms, 666-testing, Anemone, CTT_emmy, DnB¦×¦, I see @.@ you, ~*Omega*~, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ earplugs, °°Chuck
23:52 <madmax> 9% packet loss and ~320ms to café. nice
23:52 <epsy> gl for ladle 13 :P
23:52 <luke-jr> lol
23:52 <luke-jr> madmax: aren't you in Europe?
23:52 <luke-jr> even I get 216ms
23:53 <madmax> yes. or so I thought
23:53 <luke-jr> and no packet loss
23:53 <luke-jr> maybe you're on wrtlprnft's ISP
23:53 <madmax> something wrong with my ISP today
23:53 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft's ISP was losing packets recently
23:55 <epsy> there's ins't a single ISP from germany to portugal luke-jr :P
23:56 <luke-jr> I don't know where madmax is
23:56 <epsy> now you do :)

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01:26 <flex> urm...
01:26 <flex> how do i publish my cockpit on the cockpit list page thingy
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01:28 <Hoax-> just edit the wiki?
01:29 <flex> but i need a resource repository link :p
01:29 <luke-jr> …
01:30 <Hoax-> ......
01:30 <flex> tell me ffs
01:30 <flex> jeez
01:31 <luke-jr> …
01:31 <flex> fu
01:31 <luke-jr> I don't see you on the repo
01:31 <luke-jr> SO F U
01:32 <flex> right, so how do i get on there..
01:32 <luke-jr> rtfm
01:32 <Hoax-> flex, you gotta kiss arse not just say gimme it ffs
01:32 <xfroggy> haha
01:33 <xfroggy> rtfm :D
01:33 <flex> kiss arse to what post some cockpit? :p
01:33 <Hoax-> well can you read?...
01:33 <luke-jr> the repository registration fee is $50
01:33 <flex> suck my cock
01:33 <xfroggy> O.o
01:33 <luke-jr> LOL
01:34 <luke-jr> or you could tell me your Author name
01:34 <luke-jr> but now I'm hand-holding
01:34 <luke-jr> and that pisses me off
01:35 <luke-jr> so if you forget to PM me a password to use
01:35 <luke-jr> I will make it a VERY long random one
01:35 <luke-jr> which will take a long time
01:35 <luke-jr> cuz my servers lack entropy
01:36 <luke-jr> and I'm about to go to bed
01:36 <luke-jr> = timeout
01:36 <flex> you hate me luke? you on your period? or other?
01:36  * luke-jr <-- tired
01:36 <flex> wtf is RTFM
01:36 <flex> haha
01:36 <Hoax-> coming from someone who plays wow...
01:36 <flex> oh yeah
01:37 <luke-jr> flex: you have about 40 seconds
01:37 <flex> omg omg
01:37 <luke-jr> 30
01:37 <flex> 30 for what?
01:37 <xfroggy> 15?
01:37 <luke-jr> 20
01:37 <xfroggy> 10 :D
01:37 <flex> omg pressure!
01:37 <luke-jr> 10
01:37 <luke-jr> xfroggy: you count too fast
01:37 <flex> wait wait
01:38 <xfroggy> Im guessing :P
01:38  * luke-jr turns into a monster
01:38 <z-man> Cool, problem solved
01:38 <luke-jr> which one
01:38  * z-man was not referring to luke's monster statement
01:38 <flex> you turning into a monster
01:38 <flex> aww
01:38 <z-man> although that should help, too :)
01:39 <z-man> No, I've got a nice solution for the concurrency problems :)
01:39 <xfroggy> time ran out yet, luke-jr ? :D
01:39  * z-man wrote a templated member function scheduler
01:39 <luke-jr> o
01:40 <z-man> A multi-step task is a reference counted class with lots of void () member functions.
01:40 <luke-jr> …
01:40 <flex> hoax, late night poker at channel 4
01:40 <z-man> And each function can trigger the next to run either in the background or in the foreground.
01:40 <z-man> And while that is happening, the object won't disappear.
01:41 <z-man> And the login management object is also a machine decorator, which means it also notices when the client logs out.
01:41  * z-man hopes that will work
01:41 <Hoax-> flex, dont got a tv where i am atm
01:41 <z-man> It should be more readable than what is there now, at any rate.
01:42 <flex> you tramp
01:42 <Hoax-> flex, and watching poker on tv is for crack whores
01:42 <flex> lol
01:42 <flex> woot
01:42 <Hoax-> my tv is afk
01:42 <luke-jr> flex: you gonna PM me Author name and pass or am I going ot be?
01:42 <Hoax-> :D
01:43 <flex> oh
01:44 <luke-jr> GOOD NIGHT
01:45 <luke-jr> http://www.woot.com/
01:45 <luke-jr> is that a good deal btw
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01:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/flex/essentialRemix-0.2.0.aacockpit.xml: Resource by flex
01:48 <flex> aw crap i uploaded the wrong one :p
02:11 <madmax> "so if you forget to PM me a password to use" "I will make it a VERY long random one" <---- hahaha
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02:18 <vinavil> flex, i found a good solution. i just need to understand how to do it.
02:18 <flex> check this out
02:19 <flex> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/flex/essentialremix-0.2.1.aacockpit.xml
02:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/flex/essentialremix-0.2.1.aacockpit.xml: Resource by flex
02:19 <vinavil> ok, just 5 minutes to load the page
02:20 <Hoax-> Name:essentialremix
02:20 <Hoax-> did you get this off radio 1 or something
02:20 <flex> no
02:20 <flex> lol
02:20 <Hoax-> :D
02:20 <madmax> that show is pretty good
02:20 <flex> it's the name of rains version
02:20 <vinavil> no, essential is the name of my cockpit
02:20 <Hoax-> oh ok lol
02:20 <flex> and it's a remix :p
02:20 <vinavil> huh
02:20 <flex> well dunno if remix is a good name lol
02:20 <Hoax-> max i bet you watch eastenders
02:21 <flex> hashaha
02:21 <Hoax-> radio 1..top gear
02:21 <Hoax-> anything else?
02:21 <flex> wtf? top gear on radio?
02:21 <madmax> eastenders? wth?
02:21 <Hoax-> lmao
02:21 <Hoax-> maybe not :D
02:21 <flex> you living in the dark hoax where you actually 'listen' to top gear?
02:22 <Hoax-> no. max watches top gear...listens to r1..i wondered what else he pikeyd from the uk
02:22 <madmax> lol
02:23 <flex> vinavil, i'll add it to the cockpit list and make it next to yours kinda and credit you ofc
02:24 <flex> or actually you can just add it to your version list, if you like it
02:25 <vinavil> lol, flex thinks his version will be more appreciated. the war just started! muahahah!
02:25 <flex> haha
02:26 <flex> honestly it's not even *that* different for it to be a remix, so I think you should add it to yours if you want to?
02:26 <madmax> anyone seen cloverfield?
02:29 <vinavil> being serious, i'm adding brake and speed in a special way, also i'll move things a little. i count to add a "flex custom version" where the fucking fastest label shows where you like it.
02:29 <flex> lol
02:30 <Hoax-> wiki needs more advertisment or something....
02:30 <Hoax-> even though ive always said ppl with enough intelect will find it anyway
02:30 <Hoax-> maybe its best just to help the idiots become better people
02:30 <Hoax-> and give them a hand in finding stuff
02:31 <vinavil> wiki is already spammed enough :D
02:31 <Hoax-> haha ok
02:31 <flex> vinavil, did you test my version?
02:31 <vinavil> i'm testing, obvioulsy it sucks. it is all fucked up.
02:32 <flex> haha :p
02:32 <vinavil> lol
02:32 <flex> must be the font issue
02:33 <vinavil> mmm
02:34 <flex> http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&amp;myref=http://load.imageshack.us/
02:34 <flex> ops
02:34 <vinavil> i doubt i can do what i want to do, but whatever
02:34 <flex> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/139/screenshot22xy7.png
02:34 <flex> thats how it looks on mine
02:34 <madmax> "botting" (©epsy) is the new grind correction
02:34 <vinavil> botting, lol
02:35 <vinavil> time ago i've heard "boting" used referring to the ones chatting in game
02:36 <vinavil> flex: this sucks even more! you noob!
02:36 <madmax> "you're such a botter dude"?
02:37 <vinavil> damn, how do i do it?
02:38 <flex> max, you think this sucks?
02:38 <flex> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/139/screenshot22xy7.png
02:38 <vinavil> HAHAHAH! I GOT IT!""(YeOdu9 éA=W9ufd Awd
02:39 <vinavil> flex, it is clear i'm joking
02:39 <flex> lol
02:39 <vinavil> anyway, the brake problem is solved
02:39 <vinavil> now the speed
02:40 <vinavil> bah, why do you need the speed? what do you do with it?
02:40 <vinavil> you grind, you go faster, you turn, you go slower. what is the point in seeing your speed?
02:41 <Hoax-> comparison
02:42 <vinavil> comparsion between what? your multiple personalities?
02:42 <flex> haha
02:42 <luke-jr> lol
02:42 <vinavil> ohoh, i beat myself!
02:43 <flex> vinavil, just add "fastest" next to the FPS on the top right
02:43 <flex> then theres no issues with position
02:43 <vinavil> again with the faster!?
02:44 <Hoax-> so you can see for example the speed you're doing when you split
02:44 <Hoax-> are you faster or slower than you were last round?
02:44 <luke-jr> I AM FASTEST
02:44 <vinavil> haha
02:45 <vinavil> i'll do a label that says "Fastest: luke-jr 100000+++!"
02:45 <madmax> flex: it's ok. 2 things, a) bars growing to the left and right isn't intuitive b) what if the rubber value is 3 digits? :-P
02:45 <madmax> does it scale?
02:46 <Hoax-> b) what if the rubber value is 3 digits? Then you shoukd press shift-esc immediately
02:46 <madmax> of course, a server with that values of rubber sucks, but anyway
02:46 <luke-jr> lol
02:46 <madmax> exactly >_<
02:46 <luke-jr> no
02:46 <Hoax-> :D
02:46 <luke-jr> I like 500 rubber
02:46 <vinavil> that is already fixed, it is because he starded from 0.1 version. morons
02:47 <madmax> pfft.
02:47 <vinavil> LOL!
02:47 <luke-jr> with about 100 speed
02:47 <luke-jr> mayeb 200
02:47 <madmax> luke-jr: what you like is 500 in rating
02:47 <madmax> #rating luke-jr
02:47 <armabot> madmax: luke-jr is 520th with a rating of 1532-1578 (from 1534-1575)
02:47 <luke-jr> stfu
02:47 <Hoax-> ufts
02:47 <vinavil> don't say pfft. madmax you are the only one with me that tried the 0.2 version, so you knew!
02:48 <madmax> crap. it was 500 some time ago
02:48 <flex> "of course, a server with that values of rubber sucks, but anyway" hahahahahhaha
02:48 <luke-jr> Hoax-: Yagami shoots Light after L decides he is Kira!
02:48 <flex> pwned
02:48 <Hoax-> lalalalalalala not looking
02:48 <madmax> vinavil: heh that was "a long time ago"
02:49 <flex> ok vinavil, release your final version and hurry the fuck up :p
02:49 <vinavil> let me work in peace
02:49 <vinavil> !!
02:49 <luke-jr> no
02:50 <flex> 5minutes and i'm off to bed
02:53 <Hoax-> pussy
02:53 <Hoax-> xD
02:55 <vinavil> so you'll enjoy it tomorrow ;)
02:55 <madmax> good night
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03:28 <vinavil> i think i found a bug in cockpit system
03:28 <vinavil> i'll report tomorrow
03:29 <vinavil> #night
03:29 <armabot> Good night vinavil!
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03:39 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7594 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/configure.ac: Test for zthread is only done when krawallserver is activated.
03:40 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7595 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentification.cpp: New, clearer structure without tread-troubling global variables on the server side.
03:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7596 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentification.cpp: Forgot to re-activate the Executer that actually uses background threads :)
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04:00 <armabot> armagetronad: Two bugfixes:
04:00 <armabot> armagetronad:  clients would clear the username sent by the server before opening the password form
04:00 <armabot> armagetronad:  servers would ignore login attemps if the same client previously disconnected while in the process of logging in.
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10:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7598 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentification.cpp: Also removing pending login processes from view when the client logs out; they may be kept alive by running tasks.
11:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7599 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8-auth/armagetronad/src/network/ (nAuthentification.cpp nKrawall.cpp): Fixes for non-zthread owners.
11:20 <luke-jr> z-man: hi
11:31 <z-man> morning
11:37 <luke-jr> so any chance on getting the early division of account/authority delayed until nAuthentification-space? XD
11:38 <luke-jr> early division = in the player's mind, typed in different places and kept seperate in the code right now
11:40 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7600 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/files/digest-armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7160: needed for people who had the old auto-revbump
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11:45 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7601 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/files/digest-armagetronad-live-0.3_alpha6693: needed for people who had the old auto-revbump
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11:47 <luke-jr> wb zmanuel
11:48 <zmanuel> Well, we have a small problem with usernames, actually.
11:48 <zmanuel> We want the fully qualified username to be unique, right?
11:48 <luke-jr> yes
11:49 <zmanuel> Well, very many usernames on the forum contain spaces, and some contain @ and :
11:49 <zmanuel> The @ is the biggest problem, of course.
11:49 <luke-jr> ok
11:49 <guru3> oh, I didn't think of that
11:49 <luke-jr> so migrating the forums will be a longer process than imagined
11:49 <zmanuel> If we let the user enter the fully qualified username, and the username part contains an @, he'll need to escape it.
11:50 <zmanuel> no :)
11:50 <guru3> can you go backwards from the end of the string to the front?
11:50 <luke-jr> I thought we already decided the account part would be a-z0-9_- only
11:50 <zmanuel> I'd just say we keep the division of username/authority at least in the player setup.
11:50 <guru3> in that case the last @ is the seperator
11:50 <guru3> and everything before it is the name
11:50 <zmanuel> Hmm, good idea :)
11:50 <luke-jr> zmanuel: spaces will cause a problem in ladderlogs too
11:51 <zmanuel> we'll escape them and other special characters.
11:51 <zmanuel> So if my name is "z man@work:ha@armagetronad.net"...
11:51 <guru3> you go backwards from the \0
11:51 <zmanuel> that will get printed as z\ man\@work\:ha@armagetronad.net
11:51 <guru3> ah right, that -__
11:51 <guru3> -_-
11:51 <luke-jr> zmanuel: that will break existing ladderlog parsers..
11:51 <guru3> but more importantly
11:51 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2436
11:52 <luke-jr> guru3: ?
11:52 <guru3> it's the guy
11:52 <zmanuel> yay!
11:52 <luke-jr> what guy
11:52 <zmanuel> the music man
11:52 <guru3> the guy -_-
11:52 <luke-jr> o
11:52 <guru3> yeah
11:52 <guru3> him
11:53 <luke-jr> what if the accounts could have display names on the auth server too?
11:53 <zmanuel> Hmm, we could "escape" spaces as \_ instead.
11:53 <luke-jr> that would solve the overlapping problem