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Log from 2007-12-26:
--- Day changed Wed Dec 26 2007
00:01 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-195-14.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron
00:02 <hoop_tron> hello
00:02 <epsy> hey
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00:02 <hoop_tron> )
00:03 <hoop_tron> epsy, wanna help??!?!?!! )
00:03 <hoop_tron> i think its a simple thing
00:03 <hoop_tron> but im very noob at c++
00:03 <epsy> gotta stop my phone's mp3 player before i empty its power for the 3rd time today
00:03 <epsy> i'm not much better
00:03 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: the ones who wrote the parents
00:04 <epsy> i just know most of the syntax
00:04 <epsy> and the concepts (i said most eh)
00:04 <hoop_tron> ok, ill put a public request
00:04 <hoop_tron> i need to call this routine: int mpeg3_check_sig(char *path);
00:05 <luke-jr> what?
00:05 <hoop_tron> how do i call it correctly?
00:05 <epsy> int result = mpeg3_check_sig("/path/to.mp3");
00:06 <epsy> not forgetting to #include <libmpeg.h>
00:06 <hoop_tron> well, g++ wont compile it
00:06 <epsy> error message?
00:07 <hoop_tron> undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig'
00:07 <epsy> you obviousely didn't include it correctly
00:07 <hoop_tron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
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00:08 <hoop_tron> hmm
00:08 <epsy> hi Lucifer_p0rn
00:10 <hoop_tron> without the include, the error would be: ‘mpeg3_check_sig’ was not declared in this scope
00:10 <hoop_tron> anyway i included the right header, since it contains the routine im trying t call
00:10 <epsy> o wait
00:11 <epsy> it's pointer to char
00:11 <epsy> er
00:11 <epsy> nvm
00:12 <hoop_tron> it is
00:12 <hoop_tron> isnt it?
00:12 <epsy> because a charstring is an array
00:12 <epsy> so
00:13 <epsy> get your path in a string
00:13 <epsy> then send its pointer to the function
00:13 <hoop_tron> i already tryied so, let me try again
00:16 <hoop_tron> string fpath = "mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg";
00:16 <hoop_tron> char* p_fpath = &fpath;
00:16 <hoop_tron> like this?
00:16 <epsy> wtf
00:17 <epsy> string doesn't exist in the base types of c++
00:17 <epsy> unless it does
00:17 <luke-jr> sigh
00:17 <hoop_tron> then
00:17 <luke-jr> ld errors are not code related
00:17 <hoop_tron> char fpath = "mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg";
00:17 <epsy> an ld error?
00:17 <epsy> where did you see that.
00:18 <hoop_tron> ehm, see what?
00:18 <luke-jr> [17:09:54] <hoop_tron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
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00:18 <hoop_tron> calling the routine like u told me
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00:18 <hoop_tron> (ty luke)
00:19 <hoop_tron> oops, confused
00:19 <hoop_tron> luke-jr: what does it mean?
00:20 <luke-jr> you didn't paste the error,
00:20 <luke-jr> you only pasted that ld had an error
00:21 <hoop_tron> undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig' << isn't it?
00:22 <epsy> paste full output
00:22 <hoop_tron> /tmp/ccNcz8gZ.o: In function `main':try.cpp:(.text+0x24): undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig'
00:22 <hoop_tron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
00:24 <hoop_tron> here's the code in main():
00:24 <hoop_tron> int check = mpeg3_check_sig ("mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg");
00:25 <epsy> pastebin.ca
00:25 <epsy> could you paste full source?
00:25 <hoop_tron> sure
00:26 <hoop_tron> http://pastebin.ca/832236
00:27 <hoop_tron> the routine in libmpeg3.h is declared so:
00:27 <hoop_tron> int mpeg3_check_sig(char *path);
00:29 <hoop_tron> luke-jr: how do i get the error?
00:30 <epsy> ok now paste the full output og g++ -o try.o try.cpp
00:30 <epsy> s/og/of
00:30 <hoop_tron> ^^?
00:30 <epsy> open a fucking terminal
00:31 <epsy> type g++ -o try.o try.cpp
00:31 <epsy> paste the output
00:31 <hoop_tron> i pasted the output above
00:31 <epsy> that's full output?
00:31 <epsy> from gcc/g++ ? i doubt that
00:31 <hoop_tron> it is
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00:32 <luke-jr> [17:24:49] <hoop_tron> /tmp/ccNcz8gZ.o: In function `main':try.cpp☹.text+0x24): undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig'
00:32 <luke-jr> that's your error
00:32 <hoop_tron> ok )
00:33 <luke-jr> presumably you need -lmpeg3 or such
00:33 <hoop_tron> i have it!
00:33 <epsy> (nice autosmiley btw)
00:34 <hoop_tron> i include it at beginning, so it couldnt just start compiling
00:34 <hoop_tron> if i had not it installed
00:34 <hoop_tron> or not?
00:34 <hoop_tron> wowo, how bad wrote
00:34 <hoop_tron> *badly
00:36 <hoop_tron> i have a "libmpeg3.h" file into /usr/include/
00:36 * epsy is wondering why is the FM radio aerial of his phone is located in the "handfree" kit
00:36 <hoop_tron> this header contains the routine i'm trying to call.
00:40 <luke-jr> header != library
00:41 <hoop_tron> hmm ok
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00:41 <hoop_tron> but i installed it
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00:42 <luke-jr> you didn't tell the linker to link with it
00:43 <hoop_tron> er, can you explain that in other words? XD
00:44 <hoop_tron> I installed the library using ubuntu's synaptic, maybe that's the matter
00:44 <hoop_tron> ?
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00:45 <luke-jr> -lmpeg3 or something
00:46 <hoop_tron> anyway, is this synthax correct? I'm not sure of it
00:46 <hoop_tron> int check = mpeg3_check_sig ("mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg");
00:46 <hoop_tron> where param should be (char* path)
00:49 <hoop_tron> i feel strange using a string where i need a char pointer. am I wrong?
00:55 <luke-jr> …
00:55 <hoop_tron> it's ok, i tested that by myself
00:55 <luke-jr> looks like you're trying to use a C library
00:55 <hoop_tron> ehh, it is indeed
00:55 <luke-jr> maybe you should read some beginners manual on C
00:56 <luke-jr> and realize that C does not have strings
00:56 <luke-jr> "blah" is a character array in C
00:56 <hoop_tron> ok, I don't know C infact
00:56 <hoop_tron> can I use a C lib with C++ ?
00:57 <luke-jr> yes
00:57 <hoop_tron> phew
00:57 <luke-jr> C++ is backward compatible, for the most part
00:57 <epsy> c++ has strings right?
00:57 <luke-jr> but you need to understand that "blah" is not a string in C
00:57 <luke-jr> epsy: yes
00:57 <epsy> o
00:57 <luke-jr> "blah" is a character array
00:57 <hoop_tron> ok, I got it now
00:57 <luke-jr> and pointers are used to point at arrays
00:57 <hoop_tron> I made my own header to test that the synthax is correct
00:58 <epsy> i really need to look guides on what's different from c to c++
00:58 <hoop_tron> so there is something wrong with the library or what?
00:59 <epsy> because i only really learnt C
00:59 <epsy> all the C++ i know comes from arma
01:02 <hoop_tron> here is some text from a libmpeg3 guide i've found:
01:02 <hoop_tron> libmpeg3 depends on the CFLAGS environment variable to get optimization flags. You should set it to
01:02 <hoop_tron> -O3 -march=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -funroll-all-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
01:02 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: there is something wrong with that you don't know how to use g++
01:02 <hoop_tron> ^^
01:02 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: that guide is insane
01:02 <hoop_tron> indeed
01:03 <epsy> -
01:03 <epsy> -O3? ew
01:04 <luke-jr> epsy: that isn't the real problem
01:04 <luke-jr> -O3 is acceptable on some archs
01:04 <epsy> forcing a dev to use -O3 is kinda rubbish
01:04 <hoop_tron> whats -03 ?
01:04 <hoop_tron> XD
01:04 <epsy> not 03
01:04 <epsy> O3
01:04 <hoop_tron> ok
01:04 <epsy> 3rd 'optimisation' level
01:05 <epsy> so it makes a bigger result
01:05 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: forget those things
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: err, no
01:05 <luke-jr> faster, not bigger
01:05 <epsy> which takes more ram, but runs faster
01:05 <hoop_tron> I see, I'm so far to that now
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: whether it takes more RAM or not is unrelated
01:06 <luke-jr> and most likely arch dependent
01:07 <hoop_tron> quest: when I did use other libs, such as X11, I had to put many options to using g++
01:08 <hoop_tron> shall i need some to use libmpeg3 also?
01:10 <luke-jr> -lmpeg3
01:10 <luke-jr> like I've been telling you forever
01:10 <hoop_tron> haha, ok man porca miseria
01:10 <hoop_tron> I didn't get that!
01:11 <hoop_tron> probably I'm missing too much basic knowledge
01:11 <hoop_tron> let me try
01:14 <hoop_tron> compiling done using -lmpeg3
01:14 <hoop_tron> but...
01:17 <hoop_tron> executing ./try gives me:
01:17 <hoop_tron> mpeg3io_open_file: No such file or directory
01:18 <hoop_tron> ok nvm, I mistyped the path XD
01:18 <hoop_tron> epsy: thanks for help
01:19 <hoop_tron> luke-jr: thanks for help you too
01:19 <hoop_tron> I can sleep quiet tonight
01:19 <epsy> i've not been of great help actually :«
01:19 <hoop_tron> np ;P
01:20 <hoop_tron> good night
01:20 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: !
01:20 <luke-jr> anyone want an Arma server?
01:28 <hoop_tron> yea! I want it for free! :P
01:28 <epsy> 1st month is free i heard
01:28 <hoop_tron> good, give me 12 first months
01:31 <epsy> autralia based hosting?
01:31 <hoop_tron> antartide I heard
01:31 <epsy> i'm wondering how much it costs a dedicated in austria
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07:38 <P4> what are the minimal requirements needed to run armagetronad client?
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08:27 <wrtlprnft> P4: quite low
08:27 <wrtlprnft> i managed to run one on a 233MHz box
08:27 <wrtlprnft> you need X11 and mesa
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08:46 <P4> ah
08:46 <P4> i wonder what should i put as minimal requirements on polish wikipedia
08:48 <wrtlprnft> color display
08:48 <P4> haha :)
08:48 <P4> btw. can i look at the source of http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php :)
08:48 <arctanx> P4: two fingers as well :)
08:48 <P4> haha :) don't forget about eyes :)
08:50 <arctanx> nah they're not strictly necessary
08:50 <arctanx> I suppose you could get by with one finger
08:50 <arctanx> but you won't be competitive
08:50 <wrtlprnft> i'm sort of embarrassed as it's very hacky
08:50 <wrtlprnft> arma does have 3D sound
08:50 <wrtlprnft> http://pastebin.ca/832511
08:51 <P4> thank you, ah it's looking for the data into your database… :¦
08:51 <wrtlprnft> obviously.
08:52 <P4> it's not accessible from nonlocalhost, is it? :)
08:52 <wrtlprnft> which reminds me that i should keep working on armabot's arma client pendant
08:52 <wrtlprnft> i'm actually quite far
08:52 <wrtlprnft> no
08:53 <wrtlprnft> can't make all information about every player in the last two years public
08:54 <P4> hehehe, the db got to be really huge
08:54 <wrtlprnft> x_X
08:54 <wrtlprnft> you don't even know what “huge” means
08:54 <wrtlprnft> 13.2GB
08:55 <P4> it is huge in my eyes
08:55 <P4> my 1st HDD is like 13GB long :þ
08:57 <wrtlprnft> 10GB here
08:57 <wrtlprnft> but that's why the server has a second
08:57 <wrtlprnft> and third
08:57 <wrtlprnft> and fourth
08:57 <wrtlprnft> and fifth
08:57 <P4> heh
08:57 <P4> do you keep the player names in your db as they are or you convert the weird chars to _ before adding them?
08:58 <wrtlprnft> i only convert *really* weird chars
08:58 <P4> oh
08:58 <wrtlprnft> those that aren't supposed to be in names
08:58 <P4> but when i ask #lastseen ct__4 it shows ctxp4, so you got to handle that _ somehow
08:59 <wrtlprnft> mysql does
09:00 <P4> hmm…
09:01 <P4> haha thanks :) didn't knew that mySQL is that smart :)
09:01 <P4> ok time to sleep :þ bye bye
09:01 <wrtlprnft> LIKE
09:01 <wrtlprnft> cya
09:01 <P4> LIKE?
09:01 <P4> i knew % is like a * on windows, didn't knew the _ :)
09:01 * P4 falls asleep
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11:00 <philippeqc> Good morning!
11:01 <guru3> good morning phil!
11:02 <philippeqc> my emacs is broken!
11:02 <guru3> ph34r!
11:02 <philippeqc> the only thing I can think of is an update i ran yesterday (Ubuntu)
11:02 <philippeqc> but now the font is too squished to read easily
11:02 <guru3> to be honest i know jack crap about emacs
11:03 <philippeqc> vi(m) ?
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11:03 <guru3> i can do some stuff with vim
11:03 <guru3> over the last few years ive been gradually building up a repretoire of the commands
11:04 <philippeqc> which editor do you use
11:04 <guru3> vim from the command line or gedit from X11
11:05 <philippeqc> gedit seems a no-fuss editor
11:06 <guru3> it is
11:07 <guru3> and wow hacked wiki page -_-
11:07 <philippeqc> ?
11:08 <philippeqc> o, the one that lucifer mentionned. Yeah, that was.... well I dont know any word sufficient for that.
11:10 <guru3> yeah
11:10 <guru3> i'm wondering if it's even worth banning the IPs or complaining to their ISPs
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11:12 <philippeqc> Well, if you contact their ISP, they might scare them into not repeating anything like that.
11:12 <guru3> i'll check what country they're in
11:13 <guru3> Turkey, not worth it
11:13 <guru3> just ban all of turkey -_-
11:16 <philippeqc> well, that'll teach them turks
11:17 <guru3> I think you mean jerks.
11:17 <philippeqc> my, I'm so bad at racism, event when I try hard people dont even beleive me!
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11:18 <guru3> lol
11:19 <guru3> there there phil
11:20 * philippeqc put on his x-mass list for next year: "How to be a racism" by A. Jerk, and "Racisism and racial slur for Dummies"
11:21 <guru3> -_-
11:21 <guru3> it's not something to wish for really
11:22 <philippeqc> Sorry, pulled the joke a tad too far.
11:22 <philippeqc> ;)
11:22 <guru3> nah, i just turned serious all of a sudden
11:22 <guru3> but as you said, you're just really bad at racism jokes -_-
11:23 <guru3> anyway
11:23 <guru3> had a good christmas phil?
11:23 <philippeqc> I recall a movie (which title eludes me). Some romantic comedic of sort, probably him being white, and her black. At the end of the movie, Her brother, a very minor character in the movie, is in many "racist" situations. You see him boarding a bus, and the driver start to shout at him
11:24 <philippeqc> ... "no, people like YOU go in the back" and you see in the back hangs a bunch of smoker, and he was helding a cigaret in his hand.
11:24 <philippeqc> Yeah, very nice xmass, and you?
11:25 <guru3> narrowly avoided disaster
11:25 <philippeqc> HOW?
11:25 <philippeqc> What did happen?
11:25 <guru3> was pretty ill all day the 24th
11:25 <guru3> puked about a dozen times :<
11:25 <philippeqc> o my!
11:25 <philippeqc> sorry to ear that
11:26 <guru3> Sets my personal best for most pukes in a 24 hour period.
11:27 <philippeqc> humm¸ slowly that is approching my own line of humor.
11:27 <philippeqc> but are you better now?
11:27 <guru3> yeah
11:27 <philippeqc> Can you eat any solid food
11:27 <guru3> yeah
11:27 <guru3> i could do that yesterday
11:28 <guru3> but i was taking it slow
11:28 <philippeqc> ok, nice
11:28 <guru3> so we held off on the turkey for today
11:28 <guru3> but we still opened presents yesterday
11:30 <philippeqc> Are you back in Sweden?
11:30 <guru3> yeah
11:30 <philippeqc> Neat!
11:30 <guru3> rather, it's good to be home for the holidays
11:30 <guru3> a matress that isn't prodding me in the back
11:31 <philippeqc> dorms have a tradition of bad matress to keep up to!
11:31 <guru3> not in a door
11:31 <guru3> private accomodation
11:31 <philippeqc> o
11:31 <guru3> it's just a crap matress
11:31 <philippeqc> ok
11:31 <philippeqc> have you tried flipping it?
11:31 <guru3> no
11:31 <guru3> but that's an interesting idea to consider
11:33 <philippeqc> I'd look into buying an overmattress too. They are like 0.5 inch to 2 inches thick, with different firmness. might help change the general feeling, but I dont know about lumps. IKEA has some.
11:34 <guru3> hmm
11:34 <guru3> the nearest ikea in england
11:34 <guru3> is kind of far away
11:35 <philippeqc> well, other stores might be closer. But ikea catalogs might be a good point where to look for info.
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14:11 <luke-jr> epsy: Austria or Austrailia?
14:12 <luke-jr> wonder where hoop went, I was gonna give a free month to people :þ
14:26 <epsy> lol
14:27 <luke-jr> epsy: …
14:27 <luke-jr> which one?
14:27 <epsy> dunno where he went
14:27 <epsy> ^^
14:27 <luke-jr> epsy: Austria or Austrailia?
14:28 <luke-jr> [18:33:52] <epsy> i'm wondering how much it costs a dedicated in austria
14:29 <epsy> i think i meant australia
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14:59 <luke-jr> 1. ~auc/~elliot 1881 - 2066 956 - 1374
15:00 <luke-jr> that's some major improvement
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21:25 <kidanger> #lastseen Kaem
21:25 <armabot> kidanger: timed out
21:25 <kidanger> #lastseen Keam
21:25 <kidanger> #lastseen Kae
21:25 <armabot> kidanger: timed out
21:25 <armabot> kidanger: Kaesar has last been seen on >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ | 4 days 16 hours 18 minutes ago.
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
Gridder
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