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Log from 2007-12-26:
--- Day changed Wed Dec 26 2007
00:01 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-195-14.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron
00:02 <hoop_tron> hello
00:02 <epsy> hey
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00:02 <hoop_tron> )
00:03 <hoop_tron> epsy, wanna help??!?!?!! )
00:03 <hoop_tron> i think its a simple thing
00:03 <hoop_tron> but im very noob at c++
00:03 <epsy> gotta stop my phone's mp3 player before i empty its power for the 3rd time today
00:03 <epsy> i'm not much better
00:03 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: the ones who wrote the parents
00:04 <epsy> i just know most of the syntax
00:04 <epsy> and the concepts (i said most eh)
00:04 <hoop_tron> ok, ill put a public request
00:04 <hoop_tron> i need to call this routine: int mpeg3_check_sig(char *path);
00:05 <luke-jr> what?
00:05 <hoop_tron> how do i call it correctly?
00:05 <epsy> int result = mpeg3_check_sig("/path/to.mp3");
00:06 <epsy> not forgetting to #include <libmpeg.h>
00:06 <hoop_tron> well, g++ wont compile it
00:06 <epsy> error message?
00:07 <hoop_tron> undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig'
00:07 <epsy> you obviousely didn't include it correctly
00:07 <hoop_tron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
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00:08 <hoop_tron> hmm
00:08 <epsy> hi Lucifer_p0rn
00:10 <hoop_tron> without the include, the error would be: ‘mpeg3_check_sig’ was not declared in this scope
00:10 <hoop_tron> anyway i included the right header, since it contains the routine im trying t call
00:10 <epsy> o wait
00:11 <epsy> it's pointer to char
00:11 <epsy> er
00:11 <epsy> nvm
00:12 <hoop_tron> it is
00:12 <hoop_tron> isnt it?
00:12 <epsy> because a charstring is an array
00:12 <epsy> so
00:13 <epsy> get your path in a string
00:13 <epsy> then send its pointer to the function
00:13 <hoop_tron> i already tryied so, let me try again
00:16 <hoop_tron> string fpath = "mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg";
00:16 <hoop_tron> char* p_fpath = &fpath;
00:16 <hoop_tron> like this?
00:16 <epsy> wtf
00:17 <epsy> string doesn't exist in the base types of c++
00:17 <epsy> unless it does
00:17 <luke-jr> sigh
00:17 <hoop_tron> then
00:17 <luke-jr> ld errors are not code related
00:17 <hoop_tron> char fpath = "mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg";
00:17 <epsy> an ld error?
00:17 <epsy> where did you see that.
00:18 <hoop_tron> ehm, see what?
00:18 <luke-jr> [17:09:54] <hoop_tron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
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00:18 <hoop_tron> calling the routine like u told me
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00:18 <hoop_tron> (ty luke)
00:19 <hoop_tron> oops, confused
00:19 <hoop_tron> luke-jr:  what does it mean?
00:20 <luke-jr> you didn't paste the error,
00:20 <luke-jr> you only pasted that ld had an error
00:21 <hoop_tron> undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig' << isn't it?
00:22 <epsy> paste full output
00:22 <hoop_tron> /tmp/ccNcz8gZ.o: In function `main':try.cpp:(.text+0x24): undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig'
00:22 <hoop_tron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
00:24 <hoop_tron> here's the code in main():
00:24 <hoop_tron> int check = mpeg3_check_sig ("mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg");
00:25 <epsy> pastebin.ca
00:25 <epsy> could you paste full source?
00:25 <hoop_tron> sure
00:26 <hoop_tron> http://pastebin.ca/832236
00:27 <hoop_tron> the routine in libmpeg3.h is declared so:
00:27 <hoop_tron> int mpeg3_check_sig(char *path);
00:29 <hoop_tron> luke-jr: how do i get the error?
00:30 <epsy> ok now paste the full output og g++ -o try.o try.cpp
00:30 <epsy> s/og/of
00:30 <hoop_tron> ^^?
00:30 <epsy> open a fucking terminal
00:31 <epsy> type g++ -o try.o try.cpp
00:31 <epsy> paste the output
00:31 <hoop_tron> i pasted the output above
00:31 <epsy> that's full output?
00:31 <epsy> from gcc/g++ ? i doubt that
00:31 <hoop_tron> it is
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00:32 <luke-jr> [17:24:49] <hoop_tron> /tmp/ccNcz8gZ.o: In function `main':try.cpp☹.text+0x24): undefined reference to `mpeg3_check_sig'
00:32 <luke-jr> that's your error
00:32 <hoop_tron> ok )
00:33 <luke-jr> presumably you need -lmpeg3 or such
00:33 <hoop_tron> i have it!
00:33 <epsy> (nice autosmiley btw)
00:34 <hoop_tron> i include it at beginning, so it couldnt just start compiling
00:34 <hoop_tron> if i had not it installed
00:34 <hoop_tron> or not?
00:34 <hoop_tron> wowo, how bad wrote
00:34 <hoop_tron> *badly
00:36 <hoop_tron> i have a "libmpeg3.h" file into /usr/include/
00:36  * epsy is wondering why is the FM radio aerial of his phone is located in the "handfree" kit
00:36 <hoop_tron> this header contains the routine i'm trying to call.
00:40 <luke-jr> header != library
00:41 <hoop_tron> hmm ok
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00:41 <hoop_tron> but i installed it
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00:42 <luke-jr> you didn't tell the linker to link with it
00:43 <hoop_tron> er, can you explain that in other words? XD
00:44 <hoop_tron> I installed the library using ubuntu's synaptic, maybe that's the matter
00:44 <hoop_tron> ?
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00:45 <luke-jr> -lmpeg3 or something
00:46 <hoop_tron> anyway, is this synthax correct? I'm not sure of it
00:46 <hoop_tron> int check = mpeg3_check_sig ("mpeg/wg_gdo_2.mpg");
00:46 <hoop_tron> where param should be (char* path)
00:49 <hoop_tron> i feel strange using a string where i need a char pointer. am I wrong?
00:55 <luke-jr> …
00:55 <hoop_tron> it's ok, i tested that by myself
00:55 <luke-jr> looks like you're trying to use a C library
00:55 <hoop_tron> ehh, it is indeed
00:55 <luke-jr> maybe you should read some beginners manual on C
00:56 <luke-jr> and realize that C does not have strings
00:56 <luke-jr> "blah" is a character array in C
00:56 <hoop_tron> ok, I don't know C infact
00:56 <hoop_tron> can I use a C lib with C++ ?
00:57 <luke-jr> yes
00:57 <hoop_tron> phew
00:57 <luke-jr> C++ is backward compatible, for the most part
00:57 <epsy> c++ has strings right?
00:57 <luke-jr> but you need to understand that "blah" is not a string in C
00:57 <luke-jr> epsy: yes
00:57 <epsy> o
00:57 <luke-jr> "blah" is a character array
00:57 <hoop_tron> ok, I got it now
00:57 <luke-jr> and pointers are used to point at arrays
00:57 <hoop_tron> I made my own header to test that the synthax is correct
00:58 <epsy> i really need to look guides on what's different from c to c++
00:58 <hoop_tron> so there is something wrong with the library or what?
00:59 <epsy> because i only really learnt C
00:59 <epsy> all the C++ i know comes from arma
01:02 <hoop_tron> here is some text from a libmpeg3 guide i've found:
01:02 <hoop_tron> libmpeg3 depends on the CFLAGS environment variable to get optimization flags. You should set it to
01:02 <hoop_tron> -O3 -march=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -funroll-all-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
01:02 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: there is something wrong with that you don't know how to use g++
01:02 <hoop_tron> ^^
01:02 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: that guide is insane
01:02 <hoop_tron> indeed
01:03 <epsy> -
01:03 <epsy> -O3? ew
01:04 <luke-jr> epsy: that isn't the real problem
01:04 <luke-jr> -O3 is acceptable on some archs
01:04 <epsy> forcing a dev to use -O3 is kinda rubbish
01:04 <hoop_tron> whats -03 ?
01:04 <hoop_tron> XD
01:04 <epsy> not 03
01:04 <epsy> O3
01:04 <hoop_tron> ok
01:04 <epsy> 3rd 'optimisation' level
01:05 <epsy> so it makes a bigger result
01:05 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: forget those things
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: err, no
01:05 <luke-jr> faster, not bigger
01:05 <epsy> which takes more ram, but runs faster
01:05 <hoop_tron> I see, I'm so far to that now
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: whether it takes more RAM or not is unrelated
01:06 <luke-jr> and most likely arch dependent
01:07 <hoop_tron> quest: when I did use other libs, such as X11, I had to put many options to using g++
01:08 <hoop_tron> shall i need some to use libmpeg3 also?
01:10 <luke-jr> -lmpeg3
01:10 <luke-jr> like I've been telling you forever
01:10 <hoop_tron> haha, ok man porca miseria
01:10 <hoop_tron> I didn't get that!
01:11 <hoop_tron> probably I'm missing too much basic knowledge
01:11 <hoop_tron> let me try
01:14 <hoop_tron> compiling done using -lmpeg3
01:14 <hoop_tron> but...
01:17 <hoop_tron> executing ./try gives me:
01:17 <hoop_tron> mpeg3io_open_file: No such file or directory
01:18 <hoop_tron> ok nvm, I mistyped the path XD
01:18 <hoop_tron> epsy: thanks for help
01:19 <hoop_tron> luke-jr: thanks for help you too
01:19 <hoop_tron> I can sleep quiet tonight
01:19 <epsy> i've not been of great help actually :«
01:19 <hoop_tron> np ;P
01:20 <hoop_tron> good night
01:20 <luke-jr> hoop_tron: !
01:20 <luke-jr> anyone want an Arma server?
01:28 <hoop_tron> yea! I want it for free! :P
01:28 <epsy> 1st month is free i heard
01:28 <hoop_tron> good, give me 12 first months
01:31 <epsy> autralia based hosting?
01:31 <hoop_tron> antartide I heard
01:31 <epsy> i'm wondering how much it costs a dedicated in austria
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07:38 <P4> what are the minimal requirements needed to run armagetronad client?
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08:27 <wrtlprnft> P4: quite low
08:27 <wrtlprnft> i managed to run one on a 233MHz box
08:27 <wrtlprnft> you need X11 and mesa
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08:46 <P4> ah
08:46 <P4> i wonder what should i put as minimal requirements on polish wikipedia
08:48 <wrtlprnft> color display
08:48 <P4> haha :)
08:48 <P4> btw. can i look at the source of http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php :)
08:48 <arctanx> P4: two fingers as well :)
08:48 <P4> haha :) don't forget about eyes :)
08:50 <arctanx> nah they're not strictly necessary
08:50 <arctanx> I suppose you could get by with one finger
08:50 <arctanx> but you won't be competitive
08:50 <wrtlprnft> i'm sort of embarrassed as it's very hacky
08:50 <wrtlprnft> arma does have 3D sound
08:50 <wrtlprnft> http://pastebin.ca/832511
08:51 <P4> thank you, ah it's looking for the data into your database… :¦
08:51 <wrtlprnft> obviously.
08:52 <P4> it's not accessible from nonlocalhost, is it? :)
08:52 <wrtlprnft> which reminds me that i should keep working on armabot's arma client pendant
08:52 <wrtlprnft> i'm actually quite far
08:52 <wrtlprnft> no
08:53 <wrtlprnft> can't make all information about every player in the last two years public
08:54 <P4> hehehe, the db got to be really huge
08:54 <wrtlprnft> x_X
08:54 <wrtlprnft> you don't even know what “huge” means
08:54 <wrtlprnft> 13.2GB
08:55 <P4> it is huge in my eyes
08:55 <P4> my 1st HDD is like 13GB long :þ
08:57 <wrtlprnft> 10GB here
08:57 <wrtlprnft> but that's why the server has a second
08:57 <wrtlprnft> and third
08:57 <wrtlprnft> and fourth
08:57 <wrtlprnft> and fifth
08:57 <P4> heh
08:57 <P4> do you keep the player names in your db as they are or you convert the weird chars to _ before adding them?
08:58 <wrtlprnft> i only convert *really* weird chars
08:58 <P4> oh
08:58 <wrtlprnft> those that aren't supposed to be in names
08:58 <P4> but when i ask #lastseen ct__4 it shows ctxp4, so you got to handle that _ somehow
08:59 <wrtlprnft> mysql does
09:00 <P4> hmm…
09:01 <P4> haha thanks :) didn't knew that mySQL is that smart :)
09:01 <P4> ok time to sleep :þ bye bye
09:01 <wrtlprnft> LIKE
09:01 <wrtlprnft> cya
09:01 <P4> LIKE?
09:01 <P4> i knew % is like a * on windows, didn't knew the _ :)
09:01  * P4 falls asleep
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11:00 <philippeqc> Good morning!
11:01 <guru3> good morning phil!
11:02 <philippeqc> my emacs is broken!
11:02 <guru3> ph34r!
11:02 <philippeqc> the only thing I can think of is an update i ran yesterday (Ubuntu)
11:02 <philippeqc> but now the font is too squished to read easily
11:02 <guru3> to be honest i know jack crap about emacs
11:03 <philippeqc> vi(m) ?
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11:03 <guru3> i can do some stuff with vim
11:03 <guru3> over the last few years ive been gradually building up a repretoire of the commands
11:04 <philippeqc> which editor do you use
11:04 <guru3> vim from the command line or gedit from X11
11:05 <philippeqc> gedit seems a no-fuss editor
11:06 <guru3> it is
11:07 <guru3> and wow hacked wiki page -_-
11:07 <philippeqc> ?
11:08 <philippeqc> o, the one that lucifer mentionned. Yeah, that was.... well I dont know any word sufficient for that.
11:10 <guru3> yeah
11:10 <guru3> i'm wondering if it's even worth banning the IPs or complaining to their ISPs
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11:12 <philippeqc> Well, if you contact their ISP, they might scare them into not repeating anything like that.
11:12 <guru3> i'll check what country they're in
11:13 <guru3> Turkey, not worth it
11:13 <guru3> just ban all of turkey -_-
11:16 <philippeqc> well, that'll teach them turks
11:17 <guru3> I think you mean jerks.
11:17 <philippeqc> my, I'm so bad at racism, event when I try hard people dont even beleive me!
11:18 -!- kidanger_ is now known as kidanger
11:18 <guru3> lol
11:19 <guru3> there there phil
11:20  * philippeqc put on his x-mass list for next year: "How to be a racism" by A. Jerk, and "Racisism and racial slur for Dummies"
11:21 <guru3> -_-
11:21 <guru3> it's not something to wish for really
11:22 <philippeqc> Sorry, pulled the joke a tad too far.
11:22 <philippeqc> ;)
11:22 <guru3> nah, i just turned serious all of a sudden
11:22 <guru3> but as you said, you're just really bad at racism jokes -_-
11:23 <guru3> anyway
11:23 <guru3> had a good christmas phil?
11:23 <philippeqc> I recall a movie (which title eludes me). Some romantic comedic of sort, probably him being white, and her black. At the end of the movie, Her brother, a very minor character in the movie, is in many "racist" situations. You see him boarding a bus, and the driver start to shout at him
11:24 <philippeqc> ... "no, people like YOU go in the back" and you see in the back hangs a bunch of smoker, and he was helding a cigaret in his hand.
11:24 <philippeqc> Yeah, very nice xmass, and you?
11:25 <guru3> narrowly avoided disaster
11:25 <philippeqc> HOW?
11:25 <philippeqc> What did happen?
11:25 <guru3> was pretty ill all day the 24th
11:25 <guru3> puked about a dozen times :<
11:25 <philippeqc> o my!
11:25 <philippeqc> sorry to ear that
11:26 <guru3> Sets my personal best for most pukes in a 24 hour period.
11:27 <philippeqc> humm¸ slowly that is approching my own line of humor.
11:27 <philippeqc> but are you better now?
11:27 <guru3> yeah
11:27 <philippeqc> Can you eat any solid food
11:27 <guru3> yeah
11:27 <guru3> i could do that yesterday
11:28 <guru3> but i was taking it slow
11:28 <philippeqc> ok, nice
11:28 <guru3> so we held off on the turkey for today
11:28 <guru3> but we still opened presents yesterday
11:30 <philippeqc> Are you back in Sweden?
11:30 <guru3> yeah
11:30 <philippeqc> Neat!
11:30 <guru3> rather, it's good to be home for the holidays
11:30 <guru3> a matress that isn't prodding me in the back
11:31 <philippeqc> dorms have a tradition of bad matress to keep up to!
11:31 <guru3> not in a door
11:31 <guru3> private accomodation
11:31 <philippeqc> o
11:31 <guru3> it's just a crap matress
11:31 <philippeqc> ok
11:31 <philippeqc> have you tried flipping it?
11:31 <guru3> no
11:31 <guru3> but that's an interesting idea to consider
11:33 <philippeqc> I'd look into buying an overmattress too. They are like 0.5 inch to 2 inches thick, with different firmness. might help change the general feeling, but I dont know about lumps. IKEA has some.
11:34 <guru3> hmm
11:34 <guru3> the nearest ikea in england
11:34 <guru3> is kind of far away
11:35 <philippeqc> well, other stores might be closer. But ikea catalogs might be a good point where to look for info.
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14:11 <luke-jr> epsy: Austria or Austrailia?
14:12 <luke-jr> wonder where hoop went, I was gonna give a free month to people :þ
14:26 <epsy> lol
14:27 <luke-jr> epsy: …
14:27 <luke-jr> which one?
14:27 <epsy> dunno where he went
14:27 <epsy> ^^
14:27 <luke-jr> epsy: Austria or Austrailia?
14:28 <luke-jr> [18:33:52] <epsy> i'm wondering how much it costs a dedicated in austria
14:29 <epsy> i think i meant australia
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14:59 <luke-jr> 1.   ~auc/~elliot     1881  -  2066     956  -  1374
15:00 <luke-jr> that's some major improvement
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21:25 <kidanger> #lastseen Kaem
21:25 <armabot> kidanger: timed out
21:25 <kidanger> #lastseen Keam
21:25 <kidanger> #lastseen Kae
21:25 <armabot> kidanger: timed out
21:25 <armabot> kidanger: Kaesar has last been seen on >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~            | 4 days 16 hours 18 minutes ago.
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