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Log from 2007-12-17: --- Day changed Mon Dec 17 2007 00:00 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@queue.rh.rit.edu] has joined #armagetron 00:02 <Durka_> Lackadaisical: I think it was because I got off of Wifi 00:04 <madmax> i think egg is more productive while sweeping. he kills/scares away a lot of people 00:07 <Lackadaisical> i think the level of playing could be higher if we learned to play together better, as in if actively tried to box people in together 00:13 <Durka_> well 00:13 <Durka_> I wouldn't say egg was bad at def 00:13 <Durka_> but I was the worst sweeper as i kept blowing up 00:19 <epsy> #armaconfig players 00:19 <armabot> epsy: MAX_PLAYERS_SAME_IP: maximum number of players from the same IP (note that each client can legally host up to four players) (default: 4) || MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players (default: 4) || PLAYERS: Prints list of currently active players (default: ) || SP_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players in single player mode (default: 0) || SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team in (1 more message) 00:31 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 gfduxitgerhyuiovfg<hqiùHMhAU_IGHIUDRLGHUGYgyhugbysgfæÊ€æÊ»þýýûÎÃ] 00:40 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 00:43 <madmax> #tea 00:43 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: No online players. 00:53 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervisco] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:53 <madmax> #armaconfig cycle_turn_memory 00:53 <armabot> madmax: CYCLE_TURN_MEMORY: Number of pending turns a cycle will memorize exactly (default: 3) 01:09 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 01:13 <cusco> whats that memory for? 01:13 <cusco> is it for the camera? 01:15 <madmax> dunno 01:17 <cusco> -_- 01:17 <Lackadaisical> maybe if you press buttons faster than cycle_delay? 01:19 <madmax> doesnt seem to avoid double binding, since nexus doesnt have it and its set at 3 01:34 -!- Lackadaisical [n=menno@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #armagetron [] 01:51 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit ["."] 01:53 -!- Josoue [n=440d6de2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-6f986dee8a375630] has joined #armagetron 02:24 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870EC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:02 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Josoue, GodTodd, cusco, tramshed, Sticky_, luke-jr 04:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Josoue, tramshed, GodTodd, luke-jr, Sticky_ 04:12 -!- cusco [n=tretas@client-82-12-233-246.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #armagetron 04:31 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cusco 04:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cusco 05:02 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 05:38 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@queue.rh.rit.edu] has quit [] 06:23 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 06:35 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 06:53 -!- Josoue [n=440d6de2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-6f986dee8a375630] has quit ["CGI:IRC (Session timeout)"] 07:18 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@183.30-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:26 <wrtlprnft> #later tell madmax is it really that important? it would require me to write an external script ä 07:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded. 07:36 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@183.30-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 07:42 <luke-jr> ä? 07:54 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7418 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tString.cpp: Remove incomplete color codes in tColoredString::RemoveColors(), too. 07:54 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ä is a key on a german keyboard 07:54 <wrtlprnft> and i mapped right alt + ä to … 07:54 <wrtlprnft> apparently i pressed <space> + ä instead 08:10 <spidey> you can do that a with ctrl+someletter =D 08:20 <wrtlprnft> do what? 08:23 <luke-jr> .. 08:23 <spidey> ä <-- that 08:32 <wrtlprnft> i can do that by pressing the key that is labelled with „ä“ 08:32 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_Germany.svg 08:40 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away 09:20 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870EC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 09:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7419 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: source of latest alpha built -> sourceforge 09:42 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a 10:44 <z-man> aauptest? That wasn't here yesterday. 10:48 <luke-jr> it wasn't? 10:49 <luke-jr> when was the last time anyone committed to www-aabeta? 10:50 <z-man> err, yesterday :) 10:50 * z-man probably is on crack 10:50 <luke-jr> heh 10:50 <luke-jr> where is the release? I don't see it :x 10:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7420 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Next attempt at killing bizarre illegal color code constructs. 10:51 <luke-jr> nm 10:51 <z-man> Argh, stupid svk 10:51 <z-man> that was not meant to be committed. 10:51 <luke-jr> lol 10:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7421 / (2 files in 2 dirs): 10:52 <z-man> hmm, /me bets this one reverts the earlier commit 10:53 <tramshed> dkfljasldkj 10:53 <z-man> no, it's total chaos. 10:53 <tramshed> what was the rank command again? 10:53 <luke-jr> #rating /dev/null 10:53 <armabot> luke-jr: /dev/null's current rating is 1529-1621 (from 1558-1714) 10:54 <luke-jr> ow 10:54 <tramshed> lol 10:54 <tramshed> I played a little on my server tonight 10:54 <tramshed> was interested to see how it changed 10:55 <luke-jr> http://dashjr.org/~armastats-srv/a.php?system=swampland_hate&count=25 10:55 <tramshed> http://stats.catapultingfeces.com/ 10:55 <tramshed> that link you pasted is either dead, or taking a really long time to load 10:58 <luke-jr> nah 10:59 <tramshed> its not loading here 10:59 <tramshed> been trying since you pasted it 11:00 <tramshed> oh, it finally loaded 11:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7422 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tString.cpp: Undone the last two renegade commits (/me blames SVK) 11:00 <tramshed> im curious how these people who arent even on my stats are beating me on my server 11:01 <luke-jr> lol 11:01 <luke-jr> you've got a lot of n00b killers? 11:01 <tramshed> fail, for instance, played for maybe 30 minutes tonight 11:01 <tramshed> and I kicked his ass the entire time 11:01 <tramshed> I know becuase he was in the room with me 11:02 <tramshed> whats the difference between live and official ratings? 11:02 <z-man> n00bkilling shouldn't push your stats too much. 11:03 <luke-jr> z-man: it pushes the ladder, doesn't it? 11:03 <tramshed> im just interested in how it figures out the stats 11:03 <z-man> the default one, yes, but everyone knows it's broken :) 11:03 <tramshed> because im kicking everyones ass stats wise on that page cept worms0r 11:03 <luke-jr> tramshed: official is "as of the last rating period", and is what the system calculates kill value from 11:03 <luke-jr> live is "what it will be if the rating period ended now" 11:04 <tramshed> worms0r has more ladder points than me, but I have far more match and round wins than everyone else on there 11:04 <luke-jr> match and round wins are meaningless 11:04 <luke-jr> campers can win rounds 11:04 <tramshed> cant win matches though 11:04 <tramshed> not on my server at least 11:05 <tramshed> and even only taking the ladder into account, im third on my ladder, so how did all these other people get ahead of me 11:05 <luke-jr> they killed better players? 11:05 <luke-jr> kill worms3m for a bit 11:05 <tramshed> its pretty unlikely, since they are no-names 11:05 <luke-jr> ☺ 11:06 <tramshed> how exactly are you figuring out the stats for that thing 11:06 <tramshed> because point for point, I score a lot more than most 11:07 <tramshed> I dont know that exact workings of it, but it seems like its much easier for a noob to fly high on the ladder than someone who is good to raise up 11:07 <tramshed> and a lot easier for an experienced player to fall than a noob 11:07 <tramshed> assuming you rate people due to the relative ratings of those they kill 11:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7423 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Small performance fix: strlen -> strnlen. Want to do something useful today :) 11:08 <luke-jr> http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/glicko/glicko2.doc/ 11:09 <tramshed> oh, well that explains it 11:09 <tramshed> im an extremely erratic player 11:09 <luke-jr> ? 11:09 <luke-jr> ah 11:09 <luke-jr> so your volatility might be a lot higher 11:10 <tramshed> its probably very high 11:10 <tramshed> one match I might kill everyone 11:10 <tramshed> then not kill anyone for three 11:10 <tramshed> im easily distracted 11:11 <luke-jr> volatilities currently range from 0.592 to 0.613; yours is 0.603 11:12 <luke-jr> 0.600 is average 11:12 <tramshed> lets see if I can get it to .613! 11:12 <tramshed> I need to talk cash into adding his stuff to it 11:12 <tramshed> because I rarely play on my own server 11:15 <luke-jr> already did 11:15 <luke-jr> well, for 0.2.8 anyhow 11:15 <luke-jr> it's queued for the server relocation near the end of the month 11:16 <tramshed> ah, ive been playin mud puddle a lot lately 11:48 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50870C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 12:06 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870EC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:42 -!- P4|away is now known as P4 12:54 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 13:27 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron 13:38 -!- deja_vu_ [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron 13:41 <madmax> #cnn lppt 13:41 <armabot> madmax: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error 13:41 <madmax> #cnn lisbon 13:41 <armabot> madmax: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error 13:45 -!- deja_vu_ [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["leaving"] 13:47 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 13:47 <madmax> #later tell wrtlprnft well, not really. just if you're waiting for someone to come to the server on their own. if its too much trouble forget it 13:47 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded. 13:55 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50870C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:14 <luke-jr> this KNetWalk game is addictive 14:27 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron 16:07 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@78-1-90-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #armagetron 16:08 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 16:17 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@8.238-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 16:36 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 17:30 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit ["leaving"] 17:43 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 17:48 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@78-1-90-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:48 -!- liberfiasco [n=libervis@78-0-89-74.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #armagetron 18:26 <epsy> damn, how i do convert CCD images to iso ones? 18:28 <epsy> nvm, that just filre-roller displaying the resulting isos from ccd2iso badly 18:32 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:36 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 19:20 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:20 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron 19:42 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50870C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 20:13 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-38-124.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:48 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-38-124.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 21:07 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:15 -!- Bougo [n=MrBougo@8.238-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 21:15 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@8.238-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:35 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 22:04 -!- Bougo [n=MrBougo@8.238-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 22:40 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 22:44 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["leaving"] 22:44 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@adsl-163-214-238.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:52 <epsy> zmanuel, i posted reproducing steps, client recording, and server log, but i couldn't reproduce the slip-in-ghost-client-ID effect, i think we need a client from a different IP to do that 22:54 <epsy> zmanuel, this is an easy exploitable bug 22:57 <epsy> someone here to bugfarm this bug? 23:20 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron 23:31 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 gfduxitgerhyuiovfg<hqiùHMhAU_IGHIUDRLGHUGYgyhugbysgfæÊ€æÊ»þýýûÎÃ] 23:40 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Success] 23:50 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@adsl-163-214-238.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #armagetron 23:51 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 23:56 <ghableska> #weather 50266 23:56 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 29.8°F (4:57 PM CST on December 17, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.02 in 982.6 hPa (Steady).View entire month