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Log from 2007-07-06:
--- Day changed Fri Jul 06 2007
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00:05 <hoop_tron> .hoop
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00:10 <hoop_tron> .list alias
00:10 <hoop_tron> .op
00:10 <hoop_tron> .voice
00:10 <hoop_tron> .hoop
00:11 <hoop_tron> .voice hoop
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00:14 <hoop_tron> .tea
00:15 <hoop_tron> .op
00:19 <madmax> no point
00:20 <hoop_tron> #hoop
00:23 <madmax> #sd hoop
00:23 <armabot> madmax: -Hoop Wild Troned- WEIRD TEAM PLAY: Players (1/7): hoop
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00:23 <hoop_tron> can u hear me?
00:23 <|Sticky|> no
00:23 <madmax> .hoop is only defined for tronner. and tronner isnt active here
00:23 <hoop_tron> why .command dont work?
00:24 <hoop_tron> ok
00:24 <madmax> yes, and all .commands
00:24 <|Sticky|> try #
00:25 <hoop_tron> ok, np. I though have been devoiced
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> #q
00:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> #q
00:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #40: "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale - Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:40 AM, December 16, 2006)
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> #q
00:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
00:32 <hoop_tron> how may I send commands to my server by shell script?
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's a bit tricky
01:07 <madmax> Lucifer_arma: will you add matches schedule to the .ical too?
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01:11 <Lucifer_arma> madmax: yes, thanks for reminding me :)
01:12 <hoop_tron> Lucifer_arma:  a bit tricky? Can you begin to explain me, maybe I'll understand the rest
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> hoop_tron: there are 2 basic approaches
01:13  * hoop_tron listens
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> 1.  If you only need to send commands that get executed before each round, you're better off just writing everytime.cfg from your script
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> this approach has the advantage of not requiring anything special, works on any platform and with any armagetronad-dedicated installation
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> 2.  Create a pipe and redirect input from the pipe to the armagetronad-dedicated process
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> This approach is complex and difficult to get going
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> basically, the kernel will block the process until some other process connects to the pipe, so you have to connect to the pipe immediately
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> afterwards, you can disconnect from the pipe safely and the armagetronad-dedicated process will keep going without trouble
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> the advantage here is that you can do, for example, "echo "KICK Lucifer\n" >> /wherever/the/pipe/is"
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> the disadvantage is that it only works in a posix environment, and I only know of it working in linux
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> you either have to modify the init script to support it (if you use the init script), or you need a custom way of starting and stopping the server
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> a prospective third approach that I've used before is to write a script that wraps the armagetronad-dedicated process and connects to it's stdout/stdin/stderr pipes
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> but this is really just a variation on the second approach I mentioned
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> now, I have a script that implements the second approach stashed somewhere in an svn repository
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's python, and it's actually pretty nice and solid
01:17 <hoop_tron> ok, I'm using linux and I have hacked the init script yet, to get a complete log from the server
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> it combines the last two that I mentioned, where it starts and manages the armagetronad-dedicated process itself, so if the server crashes it'll restart it
01:18 <hoop_tron> I dont know where the pipe must be placed
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01:20 <Lucifer_arma> https://svn.davefancella.com/armawebmanager/trunk/armawebmanager/armastart
01:24 <hoop_tron> may it be something like:    ./myscript | /usr/bin.../serverstarter    ?
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> it can, yes
01:25 <hoop_tron> hmmm
01:27 <hoop_tron> so I need a script that send an input to the pipe? how does it work?
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> if you do it like you say, you just write to stdout
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> a bash script would use "echo" to do it, a python script would use "print", etc.
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> if you use the named pipe approach that I mentioned, you can just open the named pipe as a file and write to it using regular file operations
01:29 <hoop_tron> ok, I'm not used to named pipe but I'll try
01:30 <hoop_tron> is it the same if I put the pipe inside the init script?
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> not sure I understand the question
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> here's basically what you do:
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> mkfifo /path/to/pipe/nameofpipe
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> then after you're done, you need to remove it:
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> rm /path/to/pipe/nameofpipe
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> you need to make sure the pipe is writable by any users you want to write to it, so you may need to do a chown/chmod after you create the pipe
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> the issue is what happens if you don't clean up the pipe?
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> there may be an option for mkfifo that tells it to silently fail if the pipe is already there, but that's a potential security hole
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> you also want the pipe to only be readable by the armagetronad-dedicated process, so another process can't open it and read it
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> so, if you do this in the init script, you need to create the pipe, start the server, then rm the pipe
01:33 <noob7> you cant smoke anymore :(
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> imo, the best place to do this is in the serverstarter script, actually
01:34 <|Sticky|> #tea
01:34 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): Diameter, Josh·	~|DS|~|Go, Shadow, Sp.Magic, ~ X ~
01:34 <hoop_tron> ok, now comes the fun... thank you Lucifer
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> np
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> you could just do:
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> svn co  https://svn.davefancella.com/armawebmanager/trunk/armawebmanager/armastart
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> and read the readme and config file for how to use it :)
01:35 <|Sticky|> actualy ive been wanting to sugest something to you Lucifer_arma, I seem to remember you were trying to come up with a decent way of scoring/ranking players.  have you thought about a karma style system?
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> |Sticky|: yes :)
01:36 <|Sticky|> ahh
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> we even had a discussion about it sometime ago
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> the main problem with such a system is that mob justice would rule
01:36 <|Sticky|> i think it would work quite well
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> and there are arguments to say that's good, and arguments to say that's bad, but that it would happen is a certainty
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> it has happened on slashdot, after all
01:36 <noob7> holy fucking wow steve... /me start copying files :D
01:36 <|Sticky|> it is open to abuse but all methods have their problems
01:37 <noob7> .
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes, that's true.  But there are problems we'd rather not have, and problems we'd rather have :)
01:37 <|Sticky|> heh true
01:38 <|Sticky|> actualy even tho i like the idea on another channel im on has had the karma feature removed to stop arguments
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> I would like a subjective user-voting statistic worked into a ranking system, but I don't know enough about statistics to talk intelligently about how to make it useful
01:38 <|Sticky|> people dont seem to realise that irc karma is just a joke
01:39 <|Sticky|> could have to have each karma nomination seconded
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> strengthens the mob at the expense of the individual
01:39 <|Sticky|> hmm
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> the basic idea behind a karma system is to allow a group of individuals to make subjective judgements that reflect some ideal objective reality
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> so the question to think about is "how should such a system look that can also prevent the group of individuals from becoming a mob?"
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> and really, is it such a bad thing?  Depends on what the rest of the system looks like, to be honest
01:40 <|Sticky|> the more karma you give out the less its worth
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> but as long as there's a general push and interest towards having a centralized global ranking system, I'm probably going to be opposed to a karma system
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> if we have a decentralized system that allows people to associate with the communities they really like (or portions thereof), then a karma system could be very useful
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> the problem is in the centralized global ranking system.  Some people (like me) tend to say things that are unpopular, and I've been kicked before for saying things like "double-grinding is for sissies"
01:42 <|Sticky|> global is a bit bizzare isnt it since different servers have different settings
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> when the mob takes over, I could easily be excluded on account of a centralized global ranking system
01:43 <|Sticky|> cant realy compare sumo with fort with rubber
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> right, just like you can't compare soccer or baseball with gravity
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01:44 <|Sticky|> but that does encourage people to be nice(or in your case oppress trolling)
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01:45 <Lucifer_arma> but you could aggregate ladders that represent similar styles of play, and then make conclusions based on the aggregate on who is the more flexible, adaptive, and general-purpose players
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> which is a common definition of "best" around here
01:45 <|Sticky|> yeah
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't encourage people to be nice, it only encourages people who disagree with the popular view to be nice about their disagreement
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> my statement about doublegrinders came after 3 people told me that nto double-grinding was causing my team to lose (which it wasn't, the other team was coming down the center on the opposite side of me, and I had 20 points form killing the other team's doublegrinder)
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> and they basically said shit like "j00 suxxors stupid prick" and stuff like that
01:47 <|Sticky|> cant say i care too much about the ranking system myself, but it is an intersting problem
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> at that time, I don't recall if you were playing back then, but at that time those of us who didn't like double-grinding were a minority and had to have a civil rights-style fight to play our game
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> the issue with the ranking system comes from a few folks who want to use it to filter out genuinely bad people
01:48 <|Sticky|> i am recently getting interested in neural nets and recon you could train one to recognise good play by online players giving it hints ie through the karma system
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> when you filter out genuinely bad people, you have two problems
01:48 <|Sticky|> newbs cant improve
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> the karma system gives one of them, which is the mob mentality.  Bad people become defined in terms of what the mob thinks is bad
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> exactly, the mob we have right now wants to kick new players
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> the second problem is basically "how do we allow the system to discover when a player is no longer a bad person?"
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> so that an individual can redeem himself, so to speak
01:49 <|Sticky|> isnt that only a problem in fort and ctf tho...the others are individual games and nebs are just point fodder
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> there are those of us who will run servers in this environment that allow all players still, but as more servers adopt a filtering system, those of us running free servers will become the bad neighborhood in the community
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but fort and ctf are popular servers :)
01:51 <|Sticky|> i was thinking that you could kick bad players off to start on the side of the map or start invincible like in ctf, that way they dont mess up def
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'm not out to solve that problem right now, just wanting to point out how it relates to a karma system like you were mentioning
01:52 <|Sticky|> yeah
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> the one we talked about was basically porting slashdots system to a game context
01:52 <|Sticky|> basicaly
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> right now, since the ladder is known to be broken, server ops aren't willing to try to filter based on a global ladder someone creates
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> the system that someone started at one point was basically a way to collect ingame statistics and write them to a file, and it was my hope that system would allow scripts to be plugged in to collect statistics,
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> and to write them to a file
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> such a system would allow server ops (those that are programming-inclined) to work on their own systems
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully several competing systems would develop, and we'd either try to marry them, or pick the one that works the best
01:54 <|Sticky|> hmm does that mean there is a cache of raw data somewhere??
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> not right now, no, but tank was working on such an object in the trunk at one point
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> he's so covered up with school right now he'd probably appreciate some help if you wanted to offer it...
01:55 <|Sticky|> hmm i would be interested to get my hands on lots of raw data to see if i can pull out any usefull stats
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, the idea was that you'd generate the raw data in the game simulation somewhere and write it to a cache object, which would in turn write it to disk
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> so you could track how often a given player dies as a function of survived time, over time
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> maybe make it a vector function, where the values are <survived time, round length> :)
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01:57 <Lucifer_arma> or maybe you generate the data by reading the console, and everytime a player says "MOD <player> +1 <description>" you grab that and write it to a file
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's the reason for the pluggable script interface :)
01:58 <|Sticky|> i was also thinking (specificaly for fort) time survived relative to team imbalance ie if 1 guy holds off 3+ players they get lots of points
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> but it's yet another system that is only a construction site in the code right now
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03:03 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
03:03 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Heavy Fog | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Periods of rain ending early this evening then cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. Risk of a thundershower this evening. Fog patches. Wind southeast 30 km/h (19 mph) except gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) (2 more messages)
03:03 <Vanhayes_> #more
03:03 <Vanhayes_> #more
03:03 <armabot> Vanhayes_: along the coast early this evening. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) this evening then becoming light overnight. Temperature steady near 13C(55F).; Friday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers in the morning and early in the afternoon. A few showers beginning in the afternoon. Risk of a thundershower late in the day. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. High 19C(66F). UV (1 more message)
03:03 <armabot> Vanhayes_: index 3 or moderate. Friday night a few showers ending overnight then cloudy. Risk of a thundershower. Fog patches developing near midnight. Low 15C(59F).; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of showers. High 20C(68F).;
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04:11 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 86.2°F (9:09 PM CDT on July 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.05 in 983.6 hPa (Falling).
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04:38 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 83.1°F (9:39 PM CDT on July 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Falling).
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05:09 <ghableska> #tea
05:09 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
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06:08 <GodTodd> Kar3n1
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06:13 <DrJoeTron> welp
06:13 <DrJoeTron> i just destroyed my pc
06:14 <deja_vu> hm.
06:14 <deja_vu> grats? o.o
06:14 <DrJoeTron> i kept crashing
06:14 <DrJoeTron> figured the ram was over stressed
06:14 <DrJoeTron> so I underclocked
06:14 <DrJoeTron> just 1mhz
06:14 <DrJoeTron> and that was enough to crash the mobo
06:14 <DrJoeTron> so i had to reset the cmos
06:15 <DrJoeTron> i got it back, but 300mhz slower
06:15 <deja_vu> :s
06:15 <DrJoeTron> and nothing is working
06:15 <DrJoeTron> its a hand me down motherboard
06:15 <DrJoeTron> and the original owner really took it to hell and back
06:15 <DrJoeTron> and now if i'm going to replace it
06:15 <DrJoeTron> i have to replace alot of it
06:15 <DrJoeTron> since I planned on upgrading
06:16 <DrJoeTron> new cpu, ram, motherboard, power supply,
06:16 <DrJoeTron> probably going to get a socket 939
06:16 <DrJoeTron> since they're really cheap
06:16 <DrJoeTron> and just get AGP slots
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06:16 <DrJoeTron> since I could care less about PCI-E
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06:17 <DrJoeTron> and since agp is old technology its really cheap.
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07:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
07:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: !
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> what was the Kar3n1 thing about?
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> wrong window?  ;)
07:07 <GodTodd> yeah
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, now I wish I hadn't asked :/
07:08 <GodTodd> heh...it's like saying "i found your key"...it's useful if you can find the right door ;)
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08:09 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going off the deep end now
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> ok, any materials folks here?
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know how I can determine the strength of a material?
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11:12 <hoop_tron> hola
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11:44 <hoop_tron> last night an hacker did something strange to my server. I'd like to know what he did, if anybody knows
11:44 <hoop_tron> following, some lines from server's log
11:44 <hoop_tron> [1] Received login from via socket *.*.*.*:4534.
11:44 <hoop_tron> [1] New user: 1
11:44 <hoop_tron> [1] Hackerzrul plays for Team blue.
11:44 <hoop_tron> Timeout! Reason:
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9972 ( ePlayerNetID nr. 9972, name hoop ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9932 ( gCycle nr. 9932 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 9923, name Hackerzrul ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9931 ( gCycle nr. 9931 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 9929, name Stoned_Bot ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9930 ( gCycle nr. 9930 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 9927, name Drunk_Bot ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9929 ( ePlayerNetID nr. 9929, name Stoned_Bot ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9928 ( Team Team gold ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9927 ( ePlayerNetID nr. 9927, name Drunk_Bot ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9926 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 9926 ).
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 9925 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 9925 ).
11:45 <hoop_tron>  
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] Closing socket bound to *.*.*.*:33147
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:33453.
11:45 <hoop_tron>  
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] Setting CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8_beta3 will not be allowed in.
11:45 <hoop_tron> [0] Setting CYCLE_SPEED_MIN (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8_beta4 will not be allowed in.
11:46 <hoop_tron>  
11:46 <hoop_tron> sorry for spamming
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11:59 <epsy> hi
12:02 <hoop_tron> hi
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12:03 <hoop_tron> epsy, u know stuff about hackers?
12:04 <Monkey_arma> you mean crackers hoop
12:04 <hoop_tron> sure
12:05 <epsy> like ?
12:05 <epsy> password crackers ? :D
12:07 <hoop_tron> http://pastebin.ca/605602
12:07 <hoop_tron> I pasted here some lines from log
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12:07 <hoop_tron> I dont know what he was cracking, maybe server settings
12:08 <epsy> i think he just broken his client or...
12:08 <hoop_tron> there are two things i noted
12:08 <epsy> DoS attack ?
12:09 <hoop_tron> I had the same IP for more tahn 1 year, but now its changed
12:09 <hoop_tron> I had never seen lines like this before:
12:09 <hoop_tron> [0] Setting CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8_beta3 will not be allowed in.
12:09 <epsy> #
12:09 <epsy> [0] Closing socket bound to *.*.*.*:33147 :/
12:09 <hoop_tron> this was strange too
12:09 <epsy> did you got disconnected ?
12:10  * epsy is looking for a WAP server and an « hypersound » encoder
12:11 <Monkey_arma> im no expert ...could it be a bug?
12:11 <hoop_tron> when I tryied to connect, casually, to the srver, there was signed 1/7 player, but it was "empty"
12:11 <hoop_tron> as I joined, he left immediately
12:12 <epsy> Monkey_arma, having a 'hackerzul' coming in then having a timeout message, and a socket close at the same time....
12:12 <epsy> ...isn't a coincidence
12:12 <hoop_tron> was not a bug
12:12 <hoop_tron> maybe he was just trying some bullshit
12:13 <Monkey_arma> ok i didnt realise there was a "hackerzul"
12:13 <Monkey_arma> now its clearer
12:13 <hoop_tron> the fact he was named "hacker" is not so clever
12:13 <Monkey_arma> normally script kiddies....
12:13 <epsy> hoop_tron, just a question...
12:13 <hoop_tron> yes
12:13 <epsy> ...is the server hoster on your machine ?
12:14 <hoop_tron> yes
12:14 <epsy> a i see
12:14 <hoop_tron> I just wish he cant penetrate my system
12:15 <epsy> use a restricted account to run arma
12:15 <hoop_tron> im using ubuntu, theres not super user
12:15 <hoop_tron> but i run the server using sudo, is it important?
12:16  * epsy just hopes scripting wont be a tatal sec failure
12:16 <epsy> omg no!
12:16 <epsy> check in ps -A
12:16 <epsy> if your arma is runned under the right user
12:17 <epsy> err no, in top
12:17 <hoop_tron> whats ps -A ?
12:17 <epsy> lists current processes
12:18 <z-man-work> The logs look like normal activity to me.
12:18 <z-man-work> do CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM and CYCLE_SPEED_MIN appear in the settings?
12:19 <z-man-work> Timeouts happen often, that just means one or more clients were not able to keep up with the network data.
12:19 <epsy> or more ? O_o
12:19 <z-man-work> and the socket closing and reopening happens on regular network errors, for example when data is sent to a client and the client refuses to accept it.
12:20 <z-man-work> Well, in this case, only client 1 :)
12:20 <hoop_tron> z-man-work: what about this?
12:20 <hoop_tron> [0] Setting CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8_beta3 will not be allowed in.
12:20 <hoop_tron> i never seen before into the log
12:20 <z-man-work> Normal if you have modified CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM.
12:20 <hoop_tron> modified from map to map?
12:21 <z-man-work> maybe.
12:21 <hoop_tron> z-man-work: ok, you think I dont have to worry about so?
12:22 <z-man-work> If there was nothing else disturbing than those log entries you quoted, then no.
12:22 <hoop_tron> ok, thanks
12:22 <z-man-work> you should nevertheless run the server under a user account dedicated to it.
12:22 <z-man-work> and not root :)
12:22 <hoop_tron> ok
12:24 <hoop_tron> z-man-work: I cant be root (ubuntu) but the server must be run with "sudo" permission
12:24 <z-man-work> that effectively makes it run as root.
12:24 <z-man-work> and you can become root in ubuntu by running "sudo bash" :)
12:24 <epsy> the root account exeists, you just can't login to it
12:24 <z-man-work> How do you start the server exactly?
12:24 <epsy> z-man-work, sudo -s :P
12:24 <hoop_tron> using init.id script
12:24 <z-man-work> whatever :)
12:25  * Monkey_arma slaps ubuntu
12:25 <z-man-work> that should already run the server under the user "armagetron(ad)".
12:25 <hoop_tron> with -s, ok got it
12:26 <z-man-work> If you didn't change any of the settings of the script, that is. you can check with the output of ps or top as epsy said.
12:26 <epsy> Monkey_arma, ubuntu is absent for now :p
12:27 <epsy> z-man-work, have an idea where libxmpp resides ?
12:28 <epsy> or libpsi as well
12:28 <z-man-work> no.
12:28 <epsy> google isn't my friend
12:29 <Monkey_arma> google is overrated..just has a large database...but no clever searching...
12:29 <Monkey_arma> oh and lovely interface
12:29  * epsy prefers mozbot.com
12:30 <epsy> as a google interface
12:34  * epsy looks at the kdde svn and wonders why libpsi resides there
12:34 <epsy> *-d
12:34 <epsy> bah
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12:34 <epsy> i'm gonna nex some
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14:21 <Legionnaire> yo monkey
14:23 <Monkey_arma> hey hey
14:23 <Monkey_arma> legio have you chosen a server for afl yet?
14:25 <epsy> Monkey_arma, we did ?
14:26 <Legionnaire> yes
14:26 <Legionnaire> i wish to choose cafe
14:26 <Monkey_arma> good. because time is running out...
14:26 <Legionnaire> but i dont have admin to it lol
14:26 <Monkey_arma> no no
14:26 <Legionnaire> i told you ages ago
14:26 <Monkey_arma> you cant choose cafe. wrtl wont be here for afl
14:27 <Monkey_arma> i asked him
14:27 <Legionnaire> oO
14:27 <Monkey_arma> so you must choose another quick
14:27 <Legionnaire> errrrrr ct's place
14:27 <Legionnaire> training sesions
14:27 <Monkey_arma> legio read the info on the afl wiki under servers
14:27 <Legionnaire> DAMMIT!
14:28 <Monkey_arma> you must use a server that has been chosen there or that you have asked the owner specifiacally
14:29 <Monkey_arma> you should be ok with zmans. lucifer will just alter the match times by an hour or so if too many teams want to use same server
14:29 <Legionnaire> i read it, i just dunno where to post my choice
14:29 <Monkey_arma> press on "discussion"
14:29 <Legionnaire> but its empty
14:29 <Monkey_arma> type what you want to say ther
14:29 <Monkey_arma> exactly
14:29 <Legionnaire> thats why i wasnt sure
14:29 <Monkey_arma> ok
14:31 <Legionnaire> i dunno what server to use
14:31 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_arma: g2g soon, but if you get rain or ed to admin or give out temporary passwords, I won't mind. They both have access to my server
14:32 <Legionnaire> theres no server avalible
14:32 <Monkey_arma> unnamed team 1 is more americans so they will choose one of the amrerican servers i think.
14:33 <Monkey_arma> i have admin for CT train so maybe we could swap..it is a possibility
14:33 <Legionnaire> your choice
14:34 <Legionnaire> i dont have enough time to do this stuff lol got so much to tinker with
14:36 <Monkey_arma> ok legio i have a think about what to do and see if we can get you cafe or zmans or other euro server
14:51 <Legionnaire> ty
14:52 <Legionnaire> i think we are a team of euro's
14:52 <Monkey_arma> yes you are
14:52 <Monkey_arma> i will speak to rain or ed and see if they will admin cafe and give you temporary passes
14:53 <Legionnaire> errrrrr
14:53 <Legionnaire> i really dont know codes that well
14:54 <Legionnaire> i just play arma, i dont tinker with anything
14:54 <Monkey_arma> there are only 5 codes to know. i will show you where to learn them or i will teach you
14:55 <Monkey_arma> well maybe more but i get someone else to do the admin for these
14:55 <Legionnaire> rubber, accel, brake, cycle delay and.....
14:55 <Legionnaire> cycle speed
14:55 <Monkey_arma> no
14:55 <Monkey_arma> they will be already set
14:55 <Legionnaire> lol ! shows what i know
14:56 <Monkey_arma> you need "login", "logout", "/admin kick", "/admin ban",  "/admin center_message", "/admin say"
14:56 <Monkey_arma> ok thats 6 i think
14:57 <Legionnaire> ok
14:57 <Legionnaire> will you be back later?
14:57 <Monkey_arma> come to ctrain now and i show you what they do if u want.. or how to use them..
14:58 <Legionnaire> i cant atm, i gotta dissapear for a while
14:58 <Monkey_arma> k
14:58 <Legionnaire> other stuff to do
14:58 <Monkey_arma> they are not hard
14:58 <Legionnaire> kk
14:58 <Monkey_arma> its not an issue
14:58 <Monkey_arma> it will get sorted..i will get rain or ed to do it
14:58 <Legionnaire> when will you be back on?
14:58 <Monkey_arma> today here and there i think
14:59 <Legionnaire> ok, well talk later, ty monkey
14:59 <Monkey_arma> ok no prbs cu
14:59 <Legionnaire> ciao
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15:16 <epsy> hello NeoThermic
15:16 <NeoThermic> hey
15:18 <epsy> .
15:19 <epsy> how are you doing, NeoThermic
15:19 <NeoThermic> I'm good, you?
15:19 <epsy> fine too
15:20 <epsy> what brings you here ? :)
15:20 <NeoThermic> A slightly strange route :)
15:20 <epsy> Oo
15:20 <NeoThermic> http://forums.introversion.co.uk/defcon/viewtopic.php?p=55329#55329
15:21 <NeoThermic> that post led me to the website, and the news section said you were on freenode (and since I inhabit freenode myself, I thought I'd pop in)
15:21 <epsy> ah
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15:21 <epsy> and you need to test if other OpenGL softw works
15:21 <epsy> i see
15:22 <NeoThermic> I myself didn't, I just wanted to see what was good about this game
15:22 <epsy> aa
15:22 <NeoThermic> from the screenshots I'm intrested :)
15:22 <epsy> what to say 'bout it :P
15:23 <epsy> it's a game inpired by the lightcycle sequences in the movie TRON
15:23 <epsy> err...
15:24 <NeoThermic> I think anyone who grew up and watched that film wanted a lightcycle :)
15:24 <epsy> xD
15:24 <epsy> well, do you know what are these i presume then
15:24 <epsy> you must basically force your opponents to crash into your wall
15:25 <NeoThermic> :)
15:25 <epsy> but team-based gameplays also exists too
15:25 <Monkey_arma> its got the most potential of just about any "old skool" style game. It considers gameplay and fun to be prime targets, including netplay
15:25 <epsy> and being 3d ^^
15:25 <Monkey_arma> however it has a lot to do still
15:26 <epsy> bah, it's growing up all the time :) think about zones v2
15:26 <Monkey_arma> luckily it has been around for a few years so it has got somewhere...
15:27 <Monkey_arma> the new game modes make all the difference...
15:27 <epsy> like fortress
15:27 <Monkey_arma> it has diabolically little and poor documentation...
15:28 <epsy> where the players have to conquer the enemy base by having enough of their players in it
15:28 <Monkey_arma> it is becoming more and more customisable
15:28 <NeoThermic> but programmers don't write documentation! ;)
15:28 <Monkey_arma> thats the problem...
15:28 <epsy> heh
15:28 <Monkey_arma> they are the only ones who can do it properly because only they know how the game works
15:29 <Monkey_arma> fully
15:29 <epsy> there's a doxygen doc
15:29 <NeoThermic> heh, sometimes it's best to not know how the game works. ;)
15:30 <epsy> i don't really see any case i woulnd't like to know how it works to win easier
15:30 <Monkey_arma> the two differing features that make the gameplay stand out are 1) accelerating from walls, 2) rubber
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15:30 <epsy> but i understand some wants to keep the « magic » side :p
15:30 <epsy> ...and maps
15:31 <Monkey_arma> well maps are something that others would incorporate  given time or already have started to
15:31 <Monkey_arma> but the acceleration and rubber not always so
15:31 <Monkey_arma> rubber is now a part of the gameplay even though it was invented for lag
15:31 <epsy> yeah
15:31 <Monkey_arma> and it makes for a richer game when used correctly
15:31 <NeoThermic> rubber?
15:31 <epsy> you need to practise its use
15:32 <epsy> it's the thing that blocks you from touching a wall by having a slide basically
15:32 <Monkey_arma> it is a bad name for something that is hard to find a name for
15:32 <epsy> but it's now generally used to get nearer to walls
15:32 <Monkey_arma> it lets you get closer to a wall and/or prevents you from dying when you should for a bit..its complicated...
15:35 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Rubber
15:35 <epsy> bah
15:36 <epsy> this is a good explanation of what it is
15:36 <NeoThermic> woo, 8fps :P
15:37 <epsy> xD
15:37 <epsy> local mode ?
15:38 <NeoThermic> yeah, a game vs the AI
15:38 <epsy> mind if we play online ?
15:38 <Monkey_arma> the rubber explanation on that link is partly a good explanation and partly a  bad one ..
15:38 <epsy> #sd tigers classic
15:38 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tigers classic” at the moment, sorry.
15:38 <epsy> #sd classic
15:38 <armabot> epsy: Tigers Network Classic Play: No online players.
15:39 <epsy> bah lol
15:39 <Monkey_arma> dont go there you got the bug
15:39 <epsy> Monkey_arma, what server then ? :}
15:40 <Monkey_arma> back in a bit
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15:41 <epsy> i'm searching a server lol
15:43 <epsy> #sd spacezone III
15:43 <armabot> epsy: SPACEZONE III: Players (3/15): GALGO, HeHe=), `|dY~Ti
15:43 <epsy> here we go ?
15:48 <epsy> NeoThermic, huhu :p
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16:00 <madmax> epsy: could you try this http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=187181 ?
16:03 <epsy> k i take my shower and i might lookat this
16:06 <epsy> brb, i take my shower
16:07 <epsy> :p
16:07 <NeoThermic> fun, but near impossible to get in the mix with others at 3fps :P
16:08 <epsy> yeah i understand
16:08 <epsy> brb
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16:42 <epsy> madmax, i am not able to reproduce the bug
16:42 <epsy> i use a pointer-driven focus
16:43 <epsy> so i can't focus on minimized windowses
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16:45 <madmax> hm, when you minimize it selects another app/window?
16:45 <madmax> er, nevermind
16:45 <madmax> I read that diagonally
16:45 <epsy> well, the windows under my cursor has the focus
16:45 <epsy> none else
16:45 <epsy> if there's none
16:46 <epsy> non get the focus
16:46 <epsy> simple as that
16:46 <madmax> well, thanks anyway
16:49 <epsy> yw
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16:58 <epsy> wrtlprnft, did you updated your script to not draw the 2000x2000 white surface ?
17:00 <epsy>  #sd bugfarm
17:00 <epsy> #sd bugfarm
17:00 <armabot> epsy: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: No online players.
17:16 <epsy> #crazylate [insight]
17:16 <armabot> epsy: The extension that recovers dull of the present epistemologies will dissipate by always our future human condition.
17:16 <epsy> #crazylate hello luke-jr_work
17:16 <armabot> epsy: hello work of jr of Lucas-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work- _
17:16 <epsy> #more
17:16 <armabot> epsy: Error: That's all, there is no more.
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17:44 <wrtlprnft> epsy: yep
17:45 <wrtlprnft> and it was 20000×20000
17:46 <epsy> heh
17:48 <epsy> yeah it eats way less resources now
17:48 <wrtlprnft> on buggy implementations
17:48 <epsy> ^^
17:48 <wrtlprnft> I didn't even notice any negative effect in opera
17:52 <madmax> #weather lisbon
17:52 <armabot> madmax: Temperature: 88°F / 31°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 4:30 PM WEST; Clear. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Clear. High:84 ° F. / 29 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. High:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.;
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18:05 <ghableska> #weather 50266
18:05 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 85.8°F (11:05 AM CDT on July 06, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.12 in 986.0 hPa (Falling).
18:08 <_abc_> hello
18:08 <wrtlprnft> hi _cba_
18:11 <_abc_> hmm is armabot related to the topic or ...
18:12 <_abc_> #weather bucharest
18:12 <armabot> _abc_: The current temperature in Bucharest, Romania is 78.8°F (7:00 PM EEST on July 06, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
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18:17 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
18:17 <Vanhayes> hello
18:27 <ghableska> #tea
18:27 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): Ady-No Disc, åppåqitiøn, Goodygumdrops, Josh·	zz 109, madmax, nuss, zEok |T|, ~|DS|~EvilKnebl, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, °¯AshitakA
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18:39  * ghableska pokes Durka 
18:39  * Durka pokes #weather 50266
18:39 <Durka> ghableska***
18:40 <ghableska> ...
18:41 <Durka> o_O
18:41 <ghableska> #hello
18:41 <armabot> Hello ghableska :) Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
18:41 <ghableska> O_o
18:43 <Durka> o_O
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18:50 <Durka> hi Lucifer_arma
18:58 <madmax> wrtlprnft: do you know how to activate opera's fit to width every time?
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19:02 <Durka> madmax: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=187211#187211
19:02 <Durka> :D
19:06 <madmax> lol
19:06 <ghableska> lol Durka
19:06 <Durka> :P
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19:08 <Durka> wb
19:10 <epsy> Excellent.
19:11 <madmax> oh god. not here too
19:11  * madmax prepares /ignore
19:11 <epsy> lol max :p
19:11 <Durka> xD
19:12 <Durka> madmax: Does your IP start with: 89.26.2
19:13 <madmax> atm?
19:13 <Durka> yea
19:13 <Durka> or just 89.26
19:13 <madmax> no
19:13 <madmax> 89.181
19:13 <madmax> why?
19:13 <Durka> awww
19:14 <Durka> all portugese IP's are the same! :P
19:14 <Durka> kinda ;)
19:14 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
19:14 <Durka> I love when people just completely ignore directoins
19:14 <Durka> directions*
19:15 <Durka> on the signup page it says
19:15 <Durka> All IPs are logged. Those that signup under fake names or pose as other people will be banned from the tournament.
19:15 <Durka> Yet this one guy has signed up 7 times o_O
19:15 <madmax> O_o
19:16 <madmax> how many signed up from Portugal?
19:16 <Durka> 2
19:16 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
19:16 <Durka> both ip's start with 89.26.2 :D
19:17 <Durka> hi ePsy
19:17 <epsy> hi, excellent
19:20 <Vanhayes> madmax: to set fit to width everytime automatically, go into preferences>web pages then where it says page zome there is a button you can click so that it makes it fit to width always
19:22  * Durka pokes Vanhayes :D
19:22  * Vanhayes freaks out and beats Durka with a chair
19:22 <madmax> ah nice, thanks van :)
19:23  * Durka looks on the ground for his other arm that got severed off thanks to Van :(
19:23 <Vanhayes> np, it bothered me a while ago, having to do it everytime
19:23  * Vanhayes beats durka with his severed arm
19:23 <Durka> :(
19:23  * Lucifer_arma sews Durka's arms back on
19:23 <Durka> madmax: How do you play back the arma recording you made on a mac
19:24 <Durka> ty Luci :P
19:24 <madmax> there's an .app for OS X
19:24 <Durka> oO
19:24 <madmax> ...somewhere
19:24 <Durka> :(
19:25 <Durka> #serverinfo tech
19:25 <Durka> LOL!
19:25 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tech” at the moment, sorry.
19:25 <Durka> oO
19:25 <Durka> #serverinfo no
19:25 <armabot> Durka: Norm's Place: Players (8/12): good_girl_zaza, Kata, L2K|Stupid Solo, LightDem0n, pat, RIM RIM, The Wall, |Hot| stuff
19:25 <Durka> #serverinfo except
19:25 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “except” at the moment, sorry.
19:25 <Durka> #kill armabot
19:25 <armabot> armabot died on 05:56 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
19:25 <madmax> I think it was on the .dmg on a previous release. But I think it's on the forum somewhere
19:26 <Durka> hmmm, I know there's one for a pc
19:26 <Durka> I know what you're talking about
19:27 <madmax> Here it is: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=2115&highlight=advanced+recorder
19:27 <Durka> I found it
19:27 <Durka> I played back your recording
19:28 <Durka> o_O
19:28 <Durka> that doesn't happen for me
19:28 <madmax> o_O
19:28 <Durka> the flashing part i mean
19:29 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@m198214186130.austincc.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
19:29 <madmax> did you press anything before it starts? here its on the menu for a bit, then starts to switch
19:30 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron
19:31 <Durka> yea, menu first, then does it
19:32 <Durka> How do I make it into a quicktime movie :P
19:32  * ghableska rips Durka's arm off
19:32 <Durka> :(
19:32 <Durka> LUCI!!!!! HELP :P
19:33  * Durka will go record himself ^_^
19:33 <Durka> bbl
19:33 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com] has quit []
19:36 <Vanhayes> #ping
19:36 <armabot> pong
19:36 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
19:36 <epsy> #poing
19:36 <armabot> piong
19:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM ADT; Today - Showers or thundershowers. Local amount 10 to 15 mm(0.4 to 0.6 in). Fog patches dissipating this afternoon. High 18C(64F). UV index 3 or moderate.; Tonight - A few showers ending this evening then cloudy. Risk of (1 more message)
19:36 <Vanhayes> #more
19:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: a thundershower. Amount 2 to 4 mm(0.1 to 0.2 in). Fog patches developing this evening. Low 14C(57F).; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers late in the day with the risk of a thundershower. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) late in the day. High 21C(70F).;
19:36 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:36 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 89.8°F (12:34 PM CDT on July 06, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.10 in 985.3 hPa (Falling).
19:38 <madmax> any U20 World Cup game nearby Vanhayes? :P
19:44 <Vanhayes> heh, im not sure what that is, so ill say no
19:45 <madmax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_U-20_World_Cup
19:45 <epsy> bah
19:45 <madmax> It's in Canada this year
19:46 <Vanhayes> heh, ya kinda figured that
19:46 <ghableska> #kill epsy
19:46 <armabot> epsy died on 06:17 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:46 <ghableska> :o
19:47 <epsy> :O
19:47 <ghableska> epsy: only a few more hours :p
19:47 <epsy> omg lol!
19:48 -!- newb|e [i=admin@dhh193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #armagetron
19:48 <epsy> #echo [gmtime]
19:48 <armabot> 06:19 PM, July 06, 2007
19:48 <ghableska> #time
19:48 <armabot> ghableska: 08:19 PM, July 06, 2007
19:48 <ghableska> hi newb|e
19:48 <epsy> #help kill
19:48 <armabot> epsy: (kill <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 died on [gmtime] GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by $who".
19:48 <epsy> :p
19:49 <ghableska> bah
19:49 <Vanhayes> hmm, looks like the matches are all out west or central canada
19:52 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
19:52 <epsy> wb
19:52 <Durka> madmax: Check out my recording
19:52 <Durka> fastforward to 300
19:52 <Durka> 3 rounds in a row weird pauses
19:53  * Durka is fetching the link
19:53 <Durka> http://senduit.com/137a9d
19:53  * Durka goes off to play in bugfarm tourney
19:54 <Vanhayes> Durka: what did you use too record that?
19:54 <Durka> the Armagetron Advanced Recorder
19:54 <Durka> :D
19:55 <Durka> #fastfood
19:55 <armabot> Durka: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (8/16): Emo From Rome, help im a bug, newbÎd, Rogue, ShowHealion, tom, ~*Sp*~ SpliNg, ¦×¥Flex
19:56 <Durka> \o
19:56 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
19:56 <Vanhayes> Durka: what version?
19:56 <Vanhayes> bah
19:58 <madmax>
19:59 <_abc_> #help
19:59 <armabot> _abc_: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
19:59 <_abc_> #help help
19:59 <armabot> _abc_: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
19:59 <_abc_> yeah really useful. rediscovered recursion
20:00 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:00 <wrtlprnft> err
20:00 <wrtlprnft> madmax: yeah
20:00 <wrtlprnft> opera:config
20:00 <newb|e> hi ghableska
20:01 <wrtlprnft> the setting is called User Prefs/Rendering mode
20:01 <madmax> yeah thanks, there's also a menu entry which van pointed out
20:01  * madmax is blind x_x
20:01 <wrtlprnft> oh, lol
20:02 <wrtlprnft> it sometimes breaks pages, though, but that's per design
20:03 <_abc_> #version
20:03 <armabot> _abc_: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1+darcs.  The newest version available online is 0.83.2.
20:03 <_abc_> ahh got it
20:04 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034247035.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
20:05 <madmax> #m Durka the so called timer hickup?
20:05 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
20:12 <madmax> #lastseen pyrotek
20:12 <armabot> madmax: timed out
20:19 -!- newb|e [i=admin@dhh193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Leaving"]
20:22 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034199252.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:38 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@189.17.128.fdial.global.net.uk] has joined #armagetron
20:40 <Monkey_arma> how long does it take to reset nickname after quitting irc? ive been off for ages and my name was still here...
20:40 <_abc_> Monkey_arma: the faq says it is not reset unless someone claims it.
20:41 <_abc_> Monkey_arma: i had the same problem and i had to ask an op to help
20:41 <epsy> #fetch http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/nick.php
20:41 <armabot> epsy: 'lEod\n'
20:41 <epsy> \n ? Oo lol
20:42 <_abc_> Monkey_arma: sorry, wrong nick context
20:43 <epsy> #fetch http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/nick.php
20:43 <armabot> epsy: kEit
20:43 <epsy> #fetch http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/nick.php
20:43 <armabot> epsy: hEos
20:43 <epsy> =D
20:45 -!- spidey [n=spidey@adsl-065-006-218-226.sip.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #armagetron
20:47 <ghableska> #kill spidey
20:47 <armabot> spidey died on 07:18 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
20:47 <epsy> haha 2 hours remaining
20:47 <spidey> erm
20:47 <epsy> xD
20:47 <spidey> epsy, can you do me a favor?
20:47 <ghableska> 6 hours for me :P
20:47 <epsy> spidey, ?
20:47 <epsy> wait
20:48 <spidey> see if there's any server in your tremulous, or am i banned from the freakin master server -.-
20:48 <spidey> see if there's any servers in your tremulous list*
20:48 <spidey> click get new list
20:49 <epsy> tried get new list ?
20:49 <epsy> erm
20:49 <_abc_> #list
20:49 <armabot> _abc_: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
20:49 <epsy> _abc_, PM exists too
20:49 -!- NeoThermic [n=NeoTherm@phpbb/support/pdpc.student.NeoThermic] has joined #armagetron
20:49 <_abc_> ok
20:50 <epsy> spidey, because you could have gotten banned ? Oo
20:50 <epsy> i don't think they do that
20:50 <spidey> they can
20:50 <_abc_> I'm just learning about Supybot. What's the wheather plugin ? standard ?
20:50 <epsy> what version are you running ?
20:50 <spidey> ...
20:50 <spidey> there's only 1 standalone
20:50 <_abc_> epsy: none yet
20:50 <epsy> standart or backported ?
20:51 <spidey> backport
20:51 <epsy> _abc_, i was speaking to spidey actually
20:51 -!- Lucifer_bed [n=satan@adsl-68-91-193-82.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
20:51 <epsy> _abc_, ask wrtlprnft for bot-related questions
20:51 <epsy> hmm
20:51 <_abc_> epsy: ok x 2
20:51 <epsy> change your guid ? ^^
20:51 <spidey> ...
20:51 <spidey> what's the guid got to do with it? :p
20:51 <epsy> hmm nvm
20:52 <epsy> try with another ip
20:52 <spidey> i only have one ip
20:52 <spidey> lol
20:52 <epsy> proxies proxies
20:52 <spidey> static ftw
20:52 <epsy> proxies proxies
20:52 <spidey> you can't proxy a game...
20:52 <_abc_> #help CIA
20:52 <armabot> _abc_: Error: There is no command "cia".
20:52 <wrtlprnft> _abc_: AFAIR it's standard
20:52 <epsy> spidey, erm donno
20:52 <wrtlprnft> #list cia
20:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
20:52 <_abc_> #list cia
20:52 <armabot> _abc_: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
20:53 <spidey> nvm i don't think i'm banned
20:53 <wrtlprnft> that's our personal hacky script
20:53 <spidey> i can see 1 server
20:53 <spidey> rofl
20:53 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: yeah, smart bot, dumb case sensitivity
20:53 <wrtlprnft> err
20:53 <wrtlprnft> #help cia
20:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "cia".
20:53 <wrtlprnft> #list cia
20:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
20:53 <wrtlprnft> small difference
20:53 <wrtlprnft> nothing about case
20:53 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: ok
20:53 <wrtlprnft> #list CiA
20:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
20:54 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: eh ?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> not case sensitive :)
20:54 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: not the one that doesn't matter at least ...
20:54 <_abc_> #help CiA
20:54 <armabot> _abc_: Error: There is no command "cia".
20:54 <_abc_> #help CIA
20:55 <armabot> _abc_: Error: There is no command "cia".
20:55 <_abc_> #help cia
20:55 <armabot> _abc_: Error: There is no command "cia".
20:55 <wrtlprnft> there is no command CIA. simple as that
20:55 <wrtlprnft> there's a plugin called cia
20:55 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: I could have guessed that ...
20:55 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: ok, thanks
20:55 <_abc_> wrtlprnft: for the help
20:56 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:57 <Monkey_arma>  /msg wrtlprnft rain says you have not given him a pass for fort cafe...?
20:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah, but fortress test server is on the same machine
20:57 <Monkey_arma> he is willing to do the admin tho it seems
20:57 <wrtlprnft> so it doesn't matter
20:57 <Monkey_arma> :\/
20:57 <Monkey_arma> ?
20:57 <Monkey_arma> so same pass?
20:57 <wrtlprnft> no
20:57 <wrtlprnft> same server
20:58  * Monkey_arma is confused
20:58 <wrtlprnft> he can turn the fortress test server into a regular fortress server if he wants, and admin that
20:58 <Monkey_arma> if he hasnt got pass then how can he admin cafe?
20:58 <Monkey_arma> he already has
20:58 <wrtlprnft> ah
20:58 <Monkey_arma> but not for legions team, for X
20:58 <wrtlprnft> ok, NVM then. I don't think it's a good idea if there's two tournament servers on the same machine
20:59 <Monkey_arma> ok i will get legion to use rains server then (test server)
20:59 <wrtlprnft> ok
20:59 <_abc_> #list CIA
20:59 <armabot> _abc_: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
20:59 <Monkey_arma> i hope X are ok with that..if not...tough
21:00 <_abc_> #help describe
21:00 <armabot> _abc_: (describe <shortname>) -- Describes the handler given by shortname.
21:00 <Monkey_arma> what machines are the CT servers on? all the same?
21:00 <wrtlprnft> no
21:00 <_abc_> #help listhandlers
21:00 <wrtlprnft> there's two servers
21:00 <armabot> _abc_: (listhandlers ) -- Lists current registered handlers
21:00 <_abc_> #listhandlers
21:00 <armabot> _abc_: commitnotify, armabotupdater, aauptest, wikiupdater, test, aabetaupdate, wormuxnotify
21:01 <wrtlprnft> crazy-tronners.com and plantpeanuts.co.uk
21:01 <Monkey_arma> are CT train and wild fortress on same?
21:01 <wrtlprnft> i think they are right now
21:01 <Monkey_arma> i am looking at links now...thx
21:01 <wrtlprnft> because there's a problem with the hacked arma version on ct.com
21:01 <wrtlprnft> but CTWF should be on ct.com
21:02 <Monkey_arma> so should ct train be ok to use as afl server (i have admin pass)
21:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:02 <wrtlprnft> they're both great servers
21:02 <Monkey_arma> hmm wouldnt ctwf lag it to hell?
21:02 <wrtlprnft> as i said, hopefully it will be back on the other server soon
21:03 <Monkey_arma> before sunday ? :\/
21:03 <wrtlprnft> uh
21:03 <wrtlprnft> probably not
21:03 <Monkey_arma> wops
21:03 <wrtlprnft> you can ask ed to move it for that day
21:03 <wrtlprnft> it runs fine as long as it doesn't get empty
21:04 <Monkey_arma> i will see what server CT will use first. they will have it sussed anyway..
21:04 <Monkey_arma> it will probably be the CT train anyway i guess
21:04  * Monkey_arma puts too much faith in the admins again
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21:10 <ghableska> #tea
21:10 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Emo From Rome, Shadow, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ¢S?FlûGG$êl
21:10 <Durka> o
21:10 <Durka> O
21:11 <Durka> <madmax> the so called timer hickup?
21:11 <Durka> ah. but it's not an official timer hickup :P
21:11 <ghableska> #crazylate [insult Durka]
21:12 <madmax> ?
21:12 <armabot> ghableska: Durka - you plows not nothing but thimbleful terrified of the jizzum impertinent.
21:12 <ghableska> o_O
21:12 <Durka> it's not a timer hickup
21:12 <Durka> it's like a pause or something
21:13 <hoop_tron> hi there
21:13 <Monkey_arma> hi hoop
21:13 <Durka> hi hoop
21:13 <ghableska> hi hoop
21:15 <hoop_tron> well, I'm trying to send direct messages to my server, but my script still doesn't work
21:16 <hoop_tron> I started the server so: "MY_NAMED_PIPE | /usr/loacal.../serverstarter"
21:17 <hoop_tron> probably it's not the right way, but the server is normally running
21:17 <_abc_> #list games
21:17 <armabot> _abc_: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
21:18 <_abc_> #list babelfish
21:18 <armabot> _abc_: babelize, language list, language random, and translate
21:18 -!- goodygumdrops [n=irc4u@h183.144.88.75.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
21:18 <_abc_> #help translate
21:18 <armabot> _abc_: (translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
21:18 <_abc_> #help language list
21:18 <armabot> _abc_: (language list takes no arguments) -- Returns the languages that Babelfish can translate to/from.
21:18 <hoop_tron> _abc_: do this privately plz
21:18 <goodygumdrops> hi hoop
21:18 <_abc_> hoop_tron: ok
21:18 <Monkey_arma> hi goody
21:18 <goodygumdrops> hi monkey
21:18 <Monkey_arma> speak to hoop...
21:18 <goodygumdrops> ummmm
21:19 <hoop_tron> goodygumdrops: hello
21:19 <Monkey_arma> we been looking for u
21:19 <goodygumdrops> how do I send a priv message?
21:19 <hoop_tron> goodygumdrops: is your nick registered?
21:19 <madmax> hello goody
21:19 <goodygumdrops> yeah, I've been looking for you too
21:19 <goodygumdrops> hi madmax
21:19 <Durka> goodygumdrops: just talk here
21:19 <goodygumdrops> umm...I doubt it
21:19 <Durka> it will be too complicated
21:19 <hoop_tron> goodygumdrops: /join #hoop
21:20 <hoop_tron> madmax: may you help me with a symple scripting?
21:21 <madmax> Hm, don't know if I'll be able to help
21:21 <_abc_> msg armabot help babelize
21:21 <_abc_> sh*t
21:22 <hoop_tron> lol
21:22 <madmax> what's the script in?
21:22 <hoop_tron> I'm trying to send messages to server using named pipe, as lucifer told me
21:22 <Durka> madmax: How do you convert the .rec into quicktime or something editable :P
21:23 <madmax> I think you can't. Just with a screen recorder or something
21:24 <Durka> awwww
21:24 <madmax> there's some threads about it on the forums though
21:24 <madmax> search for 2020 as author :P
21:24 <hoop_tron> madmax: I started the server so: "MY_NAMED_PIPE | serverstarter"
21:24 <hoop_tron> madmax: in forum I find only python scripts, too hard for me now :(
21:25 <goodygumdrops> python? what could be easier
21:25 <hoop_tron> shell script?
21:25 <Durka> lol goody
21:25 <madmax> he's right, python is pretty good
21:25 <Monkey_arma> *bash*
21:25 <goodygumdrops> I mean seriously...python basically reads like pseudo code
21:25 <Monkey_arma> *bash*
21:26 <madmax> hoop_tron: couldn't you just follow option #1? :P
21:26 <hoop_tron> madmax: ok, I look at, thx
21:26 <madmax> option #1 was messing with everytime.cfg
21:26 <madmax> you need something beyond that?
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21:27 <hoop_tron> I need to give instant messages to server
21:27 <madmax> like what?
21:28 <hoop_tron> like "CONSOLE_MESSAGE Welcome player 1" or something harder
21:30 <goodygumdrops> is this where all the hardcore tronners hang out all daY? look at this
21:30 <goodygumdrops> it's like a who's who of tron
21:30 <epsy> hay guru3
21:30 <goodygumdrops> well except they let durka in for some reason
21:30 <epsy> goodygumdrops i meant
21:30 <goodygumdrops> hi epsy
21:31 <Durka> #kill goodygumdrops
21:31 <armabot> goodygumdrops died on 08:02 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
21:31 <Durka> oO
21:31 <goodygumdrops> yeah...
21:31 <goodygumdrops> but we both know you love me, so that would never happen
21:31 <madmax> hoop_tron: thing is, I'm not really into hacky mecanisms of server scripting.
21:31 <epsy> #help kill
21:31 <armabot> epsy: (kill <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 died on [gmtime] GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by $who".
21:32 <epsy> #alias add kill echo $1 will die on [gmtime] GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by $who
21:32 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:32 <hoop_tron> madmax: ok, no problem, youre welcome
21:32 <madmax> have you done the part where you read the server's log to find logins and stuff like that?
21:33 <Monkey_arma> i dont do python hoop but if you doing bash....just ask...i see what i can do...if not much..
21:35 <madmax> perhaps you could have a look at how ed does things (or did): http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=8761
21:35 <Monkey_arma> Durka, the picture of the kid that you use..is that you or just some random picture of a kid?
21:36 <madmax> hoop_tron: there's a place there where it finds a user login and sends a message to the server
21:36 <ghableska> #weather 50266
21:36 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 92.1°F (2:35 PM CDT on July 06, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.07 in 984.3 hPa (Falling).
21:36 <Durka> Monkey_arma: ?
21:38 <hoop_tron> madmax: ok, I'm gonna take a look
21:38 <Monkey_arma> lmao i thought kim jong il was durka xD
21:38 <Monkey_arma> no i thought it wasnt...but was not 100% sure
21:38 <Monkey_arma> :)
21:38 <Durka> it's a puppet...
21:39 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/images/avatars/129359849045916483df14e.png
21:40 <madmax> Are you the real Kim Jong Il?
21:40 <ghableska> http://dotcache.com/http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=498 O_O !
21:41 <Durka> madmax: SHHH!!!!
21:42 <ghableska> omg Durka
21:42 <Durka> :O
21:43 <ghableska> that guy is a freak :p
21:43 <epsy> #fetch http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/nick.php
21:43 <armabot> epsy: cIut
21:43 <epsy> :O
21:44 <madmax> does anyone know perl?
21:44 <madmax> I was seing a python/perl comparison, and, although biased, perl seemed bad
21:47 <Monkey_arma> perl is supposed to be amazingly flexible. i dont want to have to learn it but one day, unfortunately, i think i may have to.
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21:48 <Monkey_arma> bad enough i have to learn awk as its used in init scripts etc...
21:48 <eddiefantastic> perl used to run ctwf
21:48 <eddiefantastic> the map rotation that is
21:49 <eddiefantastic> Durka: I trust you've stopped playing as wargasm on ctwf
21:50 <goodygumdrops> haha, I don't even wanna know
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22:04 <Lucifer_arma> who's got swampland right now?
22:05 <epsy> #tea
22:05 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
22:05 <epsy> Excellent.
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22:34 <madmax> hoop_tron: you might wanna consider wrtl's code on starting the server. works nicely
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22:35 <hoop_tron> madmax: yes, the link you gave me is helpfull, I'm gonna try it
22:39 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-110-40.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
22:40 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:40 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 91.8°F (3:39 PM CDT on July 06, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.05 in 983.6 hPa (Falling).
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23:12 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma I think I gotta bail on AFL
23:13 <DrJoeTron> I can't really do anything, I don't have a computer that can run armagetron right now
23:15 <DrJoeTron> and won't untill its over probably
23:15 <DrJoeTron> I'll be back later
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23:24 <madmax> #tea
23:24 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): ~ X ~, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~zion
23:24 <madmax> #sd bug
23:24 <armabot> madmax: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (3/16): Rogue, tom, |Apple|
23:25 -!- G5_Ger [n=G5_Ger@dslb-084-056-152-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
23:25 <G5_Ger> Hi
23:26 <madmax> hi
23:27 <ghableska> http://stahss.com/finalgirl/zfp.jpg
23:32 <madmax> o_O
23:36 <G5_Ger> When was the first Smiley used? :-)
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23:39 <G5_Ger> o______________________O
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23:47 <Durka> #lastseen 182
23:47 <armabot> Durka: DD|182 has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 0 days 2 hours 21 minutes ago.
23:47 <Durka> #lastseen blink
23:47 <armabot> Durka: Blink has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 0 days 6 hours 1 minute ago.
23:47 <Durka> #lastseen cobaine
23:47 <armabot> Durka: eA|coBaiNe has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 1 days 5 hours 7 minutes ago.
23:47 <Durka> ahh! keep missing him
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