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Log from 2007-05-11:
--- Day changed Fri May 11 2007
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00:36 <|Sticky|> #tea
00:36 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): BowChicaBowWow, cos, hand, ikono, InfecteD, ©S¦µ4
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00:37 <|Sticky|> http://www.tranism.com/weblog/2007/05/game_widows_fig.html can we make these tron compatable
00:38 <|Sticky|> would work quite well for tron
01:03 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: no
01:04 <|Sticky|> heh
01:05 <|Sticky|> would like to see people double bindig with them
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02:13 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:13 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 82.8°F (7:10 PM CDT on May 10, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 28.94 in 979.9 hPa (Rising). 
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02:19 <ghableska> wow, so now there's a petition to bring Zop back? o_O
02:20 <|Sticky|> heh
02:21 <|Sticky|> i was quite surprised by the comparison to skip, id put zop way ahead of skip
02:21 <ghableska> same
02:22 <ghableska> #lastseen Zop
02:22 <armabot> ghableska: AntyCzops has last been seen on Pietraszkowo 4 days 8 hours 16 minutes ago.
02:22 <ghableska> er
02:23 <|Sticky|> tried that a while ago...he is nolonger in the range of last seen
02:23 <|Sticky|> #lastseen -v Zop
02:23 <ghableska> oh
02:23 <ghableska> do you remember lag?
02:23 <|Sticky|> a player?
02:23 <ghableska> yeah
02:23 <|Sticky|> before my time
02:23 <ghableska> heh
02:24 <armabot> |Sticky|: timed out
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03:32 <DrJoeTron> wow
03:32 <DrJoeTron> this place is deader than usual
03:32 <DrJoeTron> whats the occasion?
03:33 <DrJoeTron> someone needs to play kart rider with me damn it
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05:10 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
05:10 <armabot> pong
05:14 <GodTodd> #ding
05:14 <armabot> dong
05:14 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
05:14 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 72.7°F (10:14 PM CDT on May 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Rising). 
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05:29 <GodTodd> ace the test?
05:31  * GodTodd is still trying to figure out how he got an A in java ;?
05:31 <GodTodd> :/*
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> not quite
05:33 <GodTodd> 'b'ace the test?
05:33 <GodTodd> :)
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> with luck
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> it wasn't that hard, I just wound up guessing on a couple is all
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> it was multiple choice, after all
05:34 <GodTodd> this semester seemed harder than most to me for some reason
05:35 <GodTodd> the classes weren't all that challenging really
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> there's a cumulative effect iin the background I haven't managed to identify yet
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> maybe there's just an increase in general stress that's a result of the roller-coaster every semester is
05:35 <GodTodd> could be
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> I did manage to identify two problems with the test :)
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> one the question was "what's the position vector for the point (12, -5)?"
05:36 <GodTodd> all i know is i went into finals week hoping for 4 Cs....and didn't do anything *during* finals week to up those expectations :/
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> the choices were 12i + 5j *twice*, and some other stupid choices
05:36 <GodTodd> heh
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> so I left mine blank, made a note, and when I turned it in, I pointed it out to him
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> so he basically told the class the answer is A by telling them that choice A has -5j on it, then grabbed a pencil and filled in the block on my answer sheet :)
05:37 <GodTodd> usually with stuff like that, everyone gets credit for it
05:37 <GodTodd> yeah...like that :)
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I was surprised at how many brain-dead early semester questions were there
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> normally you expect the final to be heavy on the later stuff becuase you need the earlier stuff to solve it anyway
05:38 <GodTodd> they like to do that....to test memory and comprehension of the subject as a whole
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, and I expected some, just not so many
05:38 <GodTodd> the later stuff will be on the next final as the early stuff ;)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> like half the test was brain-dead first semester stuff, and the first 5 questions were calc 1 questions anyway
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> s/first/early
05:39 <GodTodd> that PHYS I?
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> yep
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> it has calc 1 as a prereq, and calc 2 either completed or concurrently enrolled
05:39 <GodTodd> yeah
05:39 <GodTodd> that's the one i'm aiming for
05:39 <GodTodd> university physics
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> it ws fun, no doubt about that
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh, the last question was "Who is the best physics teacher in the world?"
05:40 <GodTodd> haha
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> it had only one choice :)
05:40 <GodTodd> you don't say... ;)
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> so I got at least one question right
05:40 <GodTodd> 2
05:40 <GodTodd> the vector one too 
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, assuming he answered it correctly for me :)
05:40 <GodTodd> i would bet money on it
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> he's got a twisted sense of humor, he may have answered one of the stupid ones
05:40 <GodTodd> :)
05:41 <GodTodd> yeah but very few teachers will fuck with a grade to be "funny"
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> depends, I was sure I didn't have a passing grade when I went in to the review session, but the drop day had passed, and the test I was depending on was the one my wife fucked
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting to suspect I was either in much better shape than I thought, or he's intending to fudge the grade anyway
05:42 <GodTodd> heh
05:42  * Lucifer_arma has already had one teacher fudge a grade, but in that case it was to jump from a B to an A
05:42 <GodTodd> yeah...the only time they will fudge will be to your benefit
05:42 <GodTodd> unless you really piss them off :D
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05:43 <GodTodd> z-man with z-plan
05:44  * GodTodd *hates* this part of the semester.
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> the part where you wait for your grades?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I hate that part too
05:47 <GodTodd> yeah, that part
05:56 <Your_mom_arma> freeciv tomorrow?
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> no idea
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> tomorrow's the end of the fencing tournament, and I just have to go and kick some ass
06:00 <GodTodd> is that your final in that class?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> what there is of a final, anyway.  It's a participation grade, but the tournament is the climax of the class
06:01 <GodTodd> so as long as you try you get an A? like HS Phys Ed?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> pretty much, yeah
06:01 <GodTodd> ah ok
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only way to do it that's not discriminatory in some way
06:01 <GodTodd> true
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> but if you have enough absences, you have to take a paper test
06:02 <GodTodd> tho by that logic...grading in other classes is discriminatory against stupid people ;)
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> technically I have already gone enough days, since I've been to every class, and one of the makeup days as practice, so I can not show up and still be shown present for as many days as there have been classes held
06:04 <GodTodd> welp...now i have to wait til tomorrow to camp on the grades site :/
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> shut down for the night?
06:05 <GodTodd> yep
06:05 <GodTodd> 8am to 11pm
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, I don't remember my password :(
06:06 <GodTodd> we sign in with a CWID and PIN
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09:27 <spidey> could anyone tell me what this means
09:28 <spidey> [May 11 03:27:31] ERROR: 1178868451 shttpd_open_port: bind(4550): Address already in use
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09:32 <spidey> z-man: 
09:32 <spidey> when's the tourny?
09:33 <shrunken-akira> tourney?
09:33 <spidey> 'nother game
09:36 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: luke-jr ping
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10:14 <spidey> z-man-work: 
10:14 <z-man-work> The tournament game was canceled due to not enough players showing up, if that's what you want to ask.
10:15 <z-man-work> I seem to be extremely unlucky in these matters. At least, this game was not started at 2 AM.
10:15 <z-man-work> s/started/planned to start/
10:16 <spidey> k
10:16 <spidey> i see defcon still makes you load EVERYTHING
10:16 <spidey> which is gay -.-
10:16 <z-man-work> Good news is that this meanst there are still places free in the tournament :)
10:16 <z-man-work> load EVERYTHING?
10:16 <spidey> yea
10:16 <spidey> text
10:17 <spidey> everything that's happened since the server started
10:17 <spidey> that's why the connect time to a game that's already started is so slow
10:17 <spidey> or even a server that hasn't start but's ran along time
10:17 <z-man-work> That's only a bad thing if you want to spectate a game that already started a while back
10:17 <spidey> what if you get disconnected?
10:17 <z-man-work> there is certainly room for optimization there :)
10:17 <spidey> game crashes/router restarts
10:18 <z-man-work> like, use the sync data you have on your disk from the last session?
10:18 <z-man-work> Somehow, all the network stuff gets logged on disk, but never put to use.
10:19 <z-man-work> And late joiners probably also get all the "nothing happened in this microsecond" messages.
10:19 <spidey> heh yea
10:19 <spidey> defcon shouldn't be a 1.0 release :p
10:19 <spidey> or even 1.42
10:20 <spidey> btw, i get this error with tron and i don't know why
10:20 <spidey> [May 11 03:27:31] ERROR: 1178868451 shttpd_open_port: bind(4550): Address already in use
10:20 <z-man-work> Well, it's their first multiplayer game, and for that, it works well
10:20 <spidey> i think it's got something to do with why the server refuses connections
10:20 <z-man-work> ah, that's Lucifer_arma's embedded web server.
10:20 <spidey> it's disabled in server_info.cfg though
10:21 <z-man-work> Probably a nop config, dunno. Try giving it a different port, maybe?
10:21 <spidey> hm
10:24 <spidey> worked, thanks :)
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10:39 <digitx> spidey!
10:39 <digitx> D:D
10:40 <spidey> lol
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13:04 <eddiefantasti1> Howl's Moving Team Sumo
13:04 <eddiefantasti1> Anyone care to help me test it?
13:05 <z-man-work> on it :)
13:05 <z-man-work> (as Great Wizzard)
13:08 <eddiefantasti1> as flip
13:27 <z-man-work> Fun :) Non-team gameplay degenerates to trying to block the path the zone is moving to and going out to the left and right as far as you can without getting your zone collapsed...
13:27 <z-man-work> but in team mode, that does not work any more.
13:28 <z-man-work> I think the "two teams of two players per zone" setup is quite optimal, four teams per zone would be crowding it. Maybe make a variant where there only is one zone that moves a very long distance, limited to four players?
13:30 <arctanx> heh. how's moving
13:30 <arctanx> howl's*
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13:34 <LIzz> anyone there??
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13:38 <eddiefantasti1> Thanks, I'm going to try the 4 teams/zone model
13:39 <eddiefantasti1> Although one player would find it hard against 2
13:39 <eddiefantasti1> enemies
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13:56 <ghableska> #weather 50266
13:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 62.4°F (6:55 AM CDT on May 11, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.04 in 983.3 hPa (Rising). 
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16:03 <eddiefantasti1> Howl's Moving Team Sumo v2 is up
16:05 <P4> hi eddiefantasti1 :D
16:05 <eddiefantasti1> hi P4
16:05 <eddiefantasti1> comr to Howl's Team Sumo
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17:02 <MrBougo> elo
17:18 <drunken-akira> hi
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17:21 <epsy> hi
17:25 <MrBougo> bye
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17:39 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Xian/test/zone-0.0.6.aamap.xml: Resource by Xian
18:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7224 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/configure.ac: Added check for GLEW.
18:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Xian/square/tom-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Xian
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18:28 <GarethAdams> hey :)
18:41 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Xian/test/zone-0.0.7.aamap.xml: Resource by Xian
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19:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Xian/square/tom-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Xian
20:01 <wrtlprnft> [  0%] Built target wtf
20:01 <wrtlprnft> building KDE is fun…
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20:11 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:11 <luke-jr_work> kde4?
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20:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:39 <wrtlprnft> from SVN, though
20:41 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Xian/square/tom-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Xian
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21:21 <ackrite> hi
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21:32 <DrJoeTron> doot doot doot
21:32 <z-man> #serverinfo Howl
21:32 <armabot> z-man: Howl's Moving Team Sumo: No online players.
21:39 <wrtlprnft> z-man: i'm there now if you're looking for someone to play against
21:40 <z-man> cool
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22:23 <z-man> not actually tired of course, but played enough for today
22:25 <wrtlprnft> 21:42 <armabot> [ADMIN]Z-Man has last been seen on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress 4 days 21 hours 28 minutes ago.
22:25 <wrtlprnft> when i checked if you maybe were on another server with the same name :D
22:36 <_Sticky_> arg still cant get the wiki
22:37 <_Sticky_> how do you switch to fortress map with the ingame server?
22:40 <z-man> INCLUDE examples/cvs_test/fortress_complete.cfg
23:07 <mkzelda> anyone ever deal with data recovery?
23:08 <mkzelda> i mean, the kind u have to pay a lot of $ for
23:08 <z-man> luckily, no.
23:08 <mkzelda> I found a place willing to do it for $500 instead of the usual $1500-$3000 other professionals cost, and they only make you pay if they succeed
23:09 <mkzelda> but im wondering what the chances of recovery are when the situation is as bad as this...
23:09 <mkzelda> not sure if the filesystem is reiserfs or reiser4
23:09 <mkzelda> its got loop-AES on it
23:09  * z-man suppresses comments about the FS
23:09 <mkzelda> and im not 100% on my passphrase
23:10 <z-man> Is it mechanically OK?
23:10 <mkzelda> no, thats the prob
23:10 <mkzelda> fdisk just reports I/O errors
23:10 <mkzelda> unable to read table
23:10 <mkzelda> unable to write a new one
23:10 <z-man> Then the job of the recovery company would be just to give you the raw dump, the encrypted version
23:11 <z-man> the rest would be up to you
23:11 <mkzelda> thats what i figured
23:11 <mkzelda> good deal, thats ideal for me
23:11 <mkzelda> they gave me a different impression though
23:11 <mkzelda> the problem was also finding a place that was willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement
23:12 <mkzelda> cause i have confidential/classified information on the drive
23:12 <z-man> Well, what those companies do in the first step is save the raw data
23:12 <z-man> it should be possible for you to get to that data in a suitable format, say, on a new HD.
23:13 <mkzelda> in an interesting turn of events, i happened to order a new hd from the same company w/o knowing it (b/c they call their data recovery department something different)
23:13 <mkzelda> and the drive i got was DOA
23:13 <mkzelda> so im sending that back, i can send both in the same package
23:13 <mkzelda> and that drive can be used to dump
23:13 <mkzelda> i mean, the replacement drive
23:13 <z-man> careful that they don't swap the drives :)
23:14 <mkzelda> well neither are usable, but yea, i see what you mean
23:14 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
23:14 <ghableska> #weather50266
23:14 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:14 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 88.7°F (4:10 PM CDT on May 11, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.05 in 983.6 hPa (Rising). 
23:15 <mkzelda> so on a site note, what filesystem do you like since you're not a fan of reiser?
23:18 <mkzelda> *side note*
23:18 <z-man> I'm really indifferent, it's just the (rumored) tendency of the file system to destroy data that gave it the name KillerFS that also gets a strange aftertase with the current events around Hans Reiser.
23:18 <mkzelda> heh
23:18 <z-man> I used the first ReiserFS myself quite a while back on SuSE, never had problems.
23:19 <mkzelda> ya ive heard those rumors
23:20 <mkzelda> ive had drives die from all manufacturers, and using all filesystems
23:20 <z-man> You hear the same stuff about every FS. Half the people say "Don't use it, it swallowed my data", the other half says "never had any problems with it".
23:20 <mkzelda> ya same debate w/ maxtor vs wd vs seagate vs ibm vs samsung
23:20 <z-man> exactly
23:21 <mkzelda> i've used the hell out of it, and other filesystems, and drives, on tons of "production level" machines, and never had any problems... i use reiser when i need performance cause in my tests, it outperforms
23:21 <mkzelda> i used to run sites for the scene, 1tb+ , 24/7 data coming in, 15 files being upped at the same time
23:21 <mkzelda> reiser did the best for me, performance-wise, which is where i use it...
23:22 <mkzelda> if the drive is for archive,
23:22 <mkzelda> then i dont use it, b/c i give a little credit to the rumors
23:22  * z-man is away now, wife time :)
23:35 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 6:21 PM ADT; Tonight - Showers ending overnight then cloudy. Risk of a thundershower this evening. Local amount 10 to 15 mm. Fog patches spreading inland. Wind southwest 30 km/h becoming light this evening. Low 8.; (1 more message)
23:35 <Vanhayes> #more
23:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Saturday - Clearing early in the morning. High 15. UV index 7 or high. Saturday night..a few clouds. Low plus 3.; Sunday - Sunny. High 14.;
23:35 -!- Rebel_Eclipsed [i=PureSimp@S01060050bf781fb9.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
23:39 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr are you there?
23:39 <Rebel_Eclipsed> or maybe luke-jr_work
23:40 <Rebel_Eclipsed> XD
23:46 <ghableska> #tea
23:46 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): =)~luAp~, cos, ikono, Monkey, Ossi, Sithy, Twiggy, Vanhayes, ~ X ~, ~|DS|~zion, °°@shitakA, °°LAGELiS, °°Olato
23:46 <Rebel_Eclipsed> anyone seen luke-jr_work today?
23:46 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:49 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034242255.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["I quit"]
23:51 <Rebel_Eclipsed> #eclipse
23:52 <Rebel_Eclipsed> #eclipsed
23:52 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hmmm
23:52 <Rebel_Eclipsed> how did he do that?
23:53 <Rebel_Eclipsed> #eclipse-d
23:55 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails eclipse
23:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - N.A. Division Arma Clan :.: No online players.
23:56 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Cool thanks wrtlprnft
23:57 <Rebel_Eclipsed> How ya been? Haven't seen you much since I left |MBC| 
23:57  * Rebel_Eclipsed is GridPirate

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